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>Japanese games don't force politi-
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>>381303312
It's completely true in Japan though. Burger women don't face the same kind of shit Japanese women do.

Last time I was in Japan I saw how awfully they treated female staff.
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>>381303529
>it's ok when japan does it
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>Japanese Games
But the game takes place in Neo Japan (America) :^)
All I see is english and americans
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>>381303312
it's a joke
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>>381303831
No it was played completely straight
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>>381303312
What the fuck atlus
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>>381303312

Did you take a fucking picture of your TV or something?

Can't you screenshot on the new consoles?
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The real scandal is that "give her the dick" wasn't an option
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>>381303529
sure you did buddy
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>>381303312
>what is localization?
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>>381303687
/pol/ you fucking weebs
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>>381304202
>le localization scapegoat meme
Except this game has Japanese audio.
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>>381303312
She's right you know.
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>>381303312
It's called catering to western audience.
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>>381303312
She's in a business, and is catering to her client's beliefs while she asks you this question.
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>>381304182
it's true. i'm that anon's mom and we went to japan to treat his scoliosis by the best back doctor in the country when he got back to the hotel he would tell me stories about ways he saw the female staff being abused
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>>381303529
>Last time I was in Japan I saw how awfully they treated female staff.
Good, the fucking whore should have stayed in the kitchen.
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>>381304305
WASSUP PERSONA?
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>>381303687
>Burger women have had proper rights for years now
>Still complain
>Meanwhile Asian women in a good deal of Asia are treated like shit, in China its considered better to have an abortion than a daughter

>>381304182
Japan is literally less than 2 hours away by plane where I live, anon. Not everyone on 4chin is a burger.
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Persona 5 should have been more political. The main villain is the leading candidate for prime minister of Japan, but at no point did his ideology even get referenced any further than "I'm smart, everyone else is dumb."
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>>381304278
How many Mario 64 Head reaction images are there
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>>381304389
Nope
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>>381304305
And can you understand Japanese? Because i can tell you for a fact that what was said was not what was written.
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>>381304582
Do you have a SINGLE fact to back that up?
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>>381304582
That scene isn't voice acted, liar.
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>>381304472
>"I'm smart, everyone else is dumb."
Sounds like fascism to me. :^)
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>>381304429
>>>/r9k/
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>>381304557
I am pretty sure she explains this to you either immediately before or after this dialogue. If not, it is definitely stated very clearly during the social link that part of her business is identifying with her clients beliefs during their fortune reading.

It doesn't help that actual fortune tellers make their money by doing the same thing.
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>>381304669
Nuweeb shitter caught in his lie

He feels he has to defend Japan since he's a bandwagoner who got into Japanese media late and is jealous ye never got to experience it pre-West pozzing
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>>381304770
No she talks about changing fate, the scene is played completely straight, nice headcanon though
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>>381304789
Or you could just say he's shitposting for kicks
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>>381303312
well it depends on the context: if the woman works in an office and is the only female there the statement is true
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>>381304458
>in China its considered better to have an abortion than a daughter

this is a true story that most westerners don't know

China is over populated and the law around citizen to have only 1 child(unless u get a twin) and most families prefer to have a son because marriage law let men carry over their family name.
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>>381303312
Anyone else remember all the anti-euthanasia propaganda in Trauma Center? (I'm thinking of Second Opinion in particular.)
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>>381303687
It's almost as though it's a different country and the "problem" we supposedly have here may actually BE a problem there.
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>>381306303
Nah you're retarded, it's Japan not Saudi Arabia
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>>381306396
It's not Sweden either.
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>>381305289
Literally everyone knows that. There's also nothing wrong with it, it's the natural response to being forced to have one kid.
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>>381303312
>white "people"
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>>381306457
>"white" people
You ever seen the color white? We're not really white.
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>>381303312
HI
IM CONTEXT
I MATTER

Please show me ANYONE who is bothered by this, and I'll show you the most condescending laugh possible
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>>381304024
What? Of course you can autismo. Fatlus blocked that though, for whatever reason.
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>>381303312
It's not forcing politics, because there are no identity politics in Japan as they are in Burgerland and Yurop. It's just devs introducing their opinions through a game. To discuss whether these opinions are based on reality or delusional
>muh opression
Is not for me to discuss as I am not literate enough in Japanese laws to judge whether women are oppressed or not
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>>381304305
>Japanese audio
>During a social link

Boy, I sure do love them "mmm's" and "hai's"

Because, you know, they don't actually give full audio in social links except for the first and last
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>>381306396
>if their human rights aren't being violated, there is no problem
Anon please
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>>381303312
Is /pol/ that easy to trigger?
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>>381306683
>if their human rights aren't being violated, there is no problem
Sounds right to me.
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>>381304046
This tbqh familial
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>>381303312
>Some level of political commentary should not exist in a game that takes place in a real world location
And the context for that scene makes the statement accurate.
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>>381304582
That's an Ace Attorney witness tier slip up you made there, buddy.
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>>381306570
He colleague took credit for her work. It's no different than Madarame but they had to shoehorn in that line about male-dominated oppression. If it was a western game you faggots would have had multiple 500 post threads by now

They also removed all the Islamic mythology for P5
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>>381304789
haha you got baited XD
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>>381306683
What else would you want? Gibs? Fuck off commie
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>>381303312
Except women in Japan actually have a fairly hard time in certain workplaces as opposed to basically every single western country where women have it just as bad (or sometimes even better) than men.
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>>381307205
t. guy who doesn't speak japanese and has never been to japan

It's one of tue most privileged countries on earth and one of the first to let women work
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>>381307368
No one speaks Japanese. Not even the Japanese.
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>>381303312
>translators force politics
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>>381303312
It's not really the same as western feminism though. It isn't a feminist rant, it's an individuals problem.
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>>381303312

>n-no way.. n-n-not my glorious nippon desu ;_; t-they hate women just as much as i do!!!
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>>381307097
So basically, you are going to put up with anyone who isn't straight up dismembering you?
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>>381306920
Dont lump me in with "You faggots"
Theres ripping on bioware for sport because its "this is how you don't write 101" and its fun

otherwise, I still wince to think I at one point really cared about this shit.
Now its just embarrassing to get worked up over.

I could read a line like that and easily just pass it as "look at the thing this dumb bitch character said" for the intent of it being there isn't concrete, so fuck it, it could be there for a laugh for all I know.
Either way, I certainly didn't spend time making a 400 post thread about it, much less think about it the minute after it already slipped my mind.
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>>381306526
This is true. White people aren't literally white and black people aren't literally black. White is a color of purity and black is a color of wickedness, so I wouldn't be surprised if the color names for races was itself born out of racism.
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>>381303312
This is an actual issue in Japan. A woman high up at arc system works left the company it was so hard.
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>>381303312
Persona 5 is Politics the Game. It's a game of "Japan is kinda fucked in many ways" -game. It's absolutely nothing but politics from start to finish.
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>>381304429
But the kitchen is where the men who are chefs work
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A character having an agenda within a game is not the same thing as the game itself having an agenda.
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>>381308992
If you are saying that Persona 5 doesn't have agenda, you are illiterate.
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>>381304472

Seemed like he also wanted to use his power to further himself while everyone else rots, that's an idealogy.
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>One character you don't have to hang out with acts a certain way
wtf I hate Persona now
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>>381309095

The agenda is entirely different from that character though, the game's agenda is "question authority" because the japanese are fucking sheep.
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>>381303312
>not getting that the shittiest, most worthless confidant is the one saying stupid things because the writers are being cheeky

Wow, have you ever encountered stupid characters in fiction that say stupid things because it fits their character?
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>>381309317
>the shittiest, most worthless confidant
She gives free boosts to other confidants. The worst is easily Ohya whose skills do literally nothing for you.
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>>381309270
The game can have multiple agendas and it's quite obvious that "women have it hard" was on the list.

Just accept that Persona 5 is total SJW-game, because that's what it is.
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>>381309317
>the shittiest, most worthless confidant
Mate, her relationship fortunes basically break the game.
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>>381309491
>Just accept that Persona 5 is total SJW-game, because that's what it is.

No because it's not trapped in identity politics. If anything it goes against that because your character defies what the in-group says his identity should be. All of your party members do.

The one character who bitches about women having it hard, is saying it to mask the fact that she's bitter at her father for dying and leaving her to pick up the pieces, because she herself is very successful in what she's achieved at such a young age.
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>>381303687

ITS OKAY WHEN ATLUS DOES IT!!!!!
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>the only parts of the game that aren't machine translated and then proofread to be even remotely readable are about feminism
fuck sjws and fuck japan for paying them money to do this shit
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>>381309754
This tbqh
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>translated by western san francisco clique members
>LOOK JAPAN IS JUST LIKE OUR WESTERN GAMES
nice try op, you cant trick me
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>>381309641
>The one character who bitches about women having it hard
So you are illiterate.
There is the scene on the op's image. Kawakami's "having to turn to basically sex work is fucked up and wrong", the way Hifumi is groomed to use her looks and being a woman to get edge instead of letting her to just be a shogi player, Ann being singled out and rumored about because her looks and more. Persona 5 is full of pro-feminist messaging in many places.
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>>381303831
If it WAS a joke that would also be forcing politics on the player.

It'd just be more /v/-friendly.
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>>381306665
>It's not forcing politics, because there are no identity politics in Japan
What?

Anon, you don't have to be forcing identity politics to be forcing politics. You just have to be pushing your view really ham-fistedly.

Like take Nier &c.: it's got a lot of nihilism in it. But that's okay because the whole game is centred around the theme. Compare this to some simplistic propaganda piece made by a thoughtless dev who wanted to be circlejerked by their friends.
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>>381310170
I do love seeing /v/ dig itself in new holes, like this recent "politics are not bad if it's from game I like, I mean form japan, I mean something something excuse".
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>>381309270
It seems like good Nip developers always go for the "go against authority" thing. And a lot of them are westaboos.
>>381310304
I'm okay with it. It's good seeing people realise that politics isn't inherently bad (even if I think it's boring compared to other things art can focus on).
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>>381310304
>Quebec-dwelling feminists constantly going on about their beliefs and injecting them into everything is the same as Yoko Taro wanting to share his thoughts on the human condition
I don't see Jap devs talking about blacklisting others for disagreeing with Anita
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Chihaya is cute
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>>381309491
This is retarded. Did you see a single link where someone "didn't have it hard?"
The entire point of links is "Everyone has it hard, you have to help them."

You are just looking at P5 with the bias of someone who wants it to be gender biased.
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>>381310739
SJW's are SJW's. If you hate the group, hate the group, if you dislike individuals, then dislike individuals.
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>>381310829
super cute
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>>381310739
>I don't see Jap devs talking about blacklisting others for disagreeing with Anita
That's a damn shame but it's got nothing to do with the content of their games.
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>>381308949
No place is safe
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>>381304429
>ow the edge.jpg
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>>381303312
The whole game is about social liberation. Is it still forced if it's thematically consistent?
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>>381304582
kys
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>>381304669
>>381306918
>>381304789
>>381304906
>Because i can tell you for a fact that what was said was not what was written.
Exactly, nothing was said.
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>>381304472

So, the main villain is Donald Trump?
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Women are useless and should be treated as such.

>"bub muh single mom wont give me tendies if i dont respect women..."

man up cuck
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>>381303312
It's true, though. The only thing lower than women in JP society are gaijin.
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>>381304429
When will the teenagers fuck off fromthis site?
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>>381306396
>/v/is actually this dumb
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>>381303312

Half of the women (and occasionally men) that complain about this shit aren't anywhere near the poverty level. It's just pampered, first-world, upper class bitching.
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>>381311783
You're right!

I will get those tendies myself!
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>>381312601
>people who have money but not super rich tier want more money
Honestly though how is this actually a surprise to anyone?
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>Nip businesswoman talks to westerner
"We need to do X and Y, I'll give you Z to help you, your office is over there, you have three days."
>Nip businesswoman talks to Nip worker (male)
"AAAAA what I do for you? You want footrub? You want sex? No problem! Me like big 2'' dick".
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>>381303312
>people never complained about gender dynamics until feminism came along
t. you
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>>381304429
And you 6ft under.
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>>381304635
I'd believe it based on the fact that I speak Japanese anytime I play a Japanese game with English subs the localization team has taken liberties. I haven't played persona 5 yet though
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>>381303312
It's not politics if you aren't trying to force your opinions onto others by using the power of the state, or some other entity that isn't accountable to anyone or anything.

Also, last I checked, you didn't have to do her S Link (or whatever its called this game).
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>>381303529
>it's ok when persona does it
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>>381313705
>It's not politics if you aren't trying to force your opinions onto others by using the power of the state
What the fuck is wrong with your brain.
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>>381304429
are you a manlet trying to compensate for something their m8?
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>>381314363
Are we still talking about Persona 5 with a short dialogue of a jerk-ass employer not taking his female employee seriously?
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>>381314676
Yes.

Do you know what politics actually is?
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>>381308901
Or maybe she was just incompetent. DBZF producer doesn't seem to have any issue.
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>>381303312
>Japan
>what can I do to better fit and survive in the male-dominated work environment?
>Murica
>work environment is sexist and I'm a failure at life only because patriarchy wants me to
Know the difference, gal.
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>>381316096
Neither of those things happen in real life.
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>see this thread hours ago
>0 replies
>"good, I knew /v/ wasn't so dumb to think that any talk of sex based description is automatically sjw mememing"
HAHAHA BOY WAS I STUPID
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>>381316068
The DBFZ producer works for Namco Bandai, not Arc.
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