It's going to be a catastrophe.

>>381108942
Yeah

/v/ is going to be a catastrophe because this place hates everything

>kojima a hack
What a shocker

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>>381108942
Its never coming out lmao, Konami put up with his BS for years. I doubt anyone else will deal with the Talent less hack that is Kojima

did mgs5 even break even?

Kojima doing overly pretentious symbolic convoluted shit for the sake of it? Big surprise. Westaboo hipsters are as bad as weebs

Have you heard that guy talking? I still can't understand a single thing he says.

>>381108942
Only a true genius could understand kojima-samas vision

what's not to get?
you go around solving mysteries in the del taco truck

>>381108942
>>381109072
>t. brainlets
Kojima is way too smart for you guys to pull him down.

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Who would have thought?

>>381108942
Guess, what? It looks fresh and exciting. I don't care whether some hacks were able to conceptualize it.

>>381108942
this game already took a tripfriend's life by not having solid info out leading them to believe it was both metal gear solid 5 (not V) and silent hills all at the same time
rip caramel 1999 - 2017

>Kojima explained Death Stranding to his team. What happened next will blow your mind!

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What is with gook developers and terrible ideas?

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>>381108942

>>381109226
Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain made $179 million worldwide on its first day on sale.

>Konami was worried about losing money
Fuck those idiots.

>Kojima explains this crazy idea no one understands which could change the face of gaming as we know it
>It's actually just Uncharted but breaks the 4th wall sometimes
Wait and see

>>381109489
Now I want to know what happened, anon.

>>381108942
New concept.

Seems to be duality, life and dearh, Fantasty and reality.

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>>381108993

>>381109567
All that explains is that a mediocre game will sell on pure hype alone.

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When is Death Stranding Pachinko?!?

>>381109616

His team didn't get it!

#kojima #2deep4me #istilldontunderstandthemetalgearsolidstories

Nathan [email protected]@vahn16
Kotaku PC games and (sometimes) MMA reporter person. Mindless vessel for a sentient mop of hair.

Did /v/s opinion on kojimbo and death stranding changed right after sony bought both of them?

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How can anyone doubt Kojima when he created the single best plot and the single best antagonist in history?

And didn't you guys hear? He's the master of ruses and is making FREE DLC to finish MGSV! All you had to do was connect the dots and you'll see it's a ruse cruise, bros!

>>381109813
Some of us aren't retards and realised it after MGS4 sucked.

>>381109394
i dont see the problem
raiden turned out to be a great protag
and vamp a cool villain
y take yourself so seriously tho... ffs, you`re making a game

>You play as a pretty boy with no relation to the main character
>It's bad on purpose
>Its trying to evoke themes of post modernism by being boring

>>381108942
Obviously if Del Toro is involved.

>>381109585
Koji many does that with every game he makes.
He said MGSV will do something no game has done before and change the landscape of gaming.

>In the trailers for mgs5 hear how language is a parasite
>that's a fucking cool metaphor
>it ends up being literal
A+ writing right there

>>381109813
Tomokazu Fukushima was the real brains behind MGS. The quality of the series went to shit after Kojima started doing all the writing and directing after 3.

>>381108942
>when Kojima tried to explain Death Stranding to his team "no one got it"
>/r/gaming now thinks that the game has deep and complex plot when in fact it's so retarded that the author himself does not understand it
Watch Kojima the Hack scrap the game ten times during development and release a MGS clone that has fallen too deep in the open world meme.

>>381109446
has he shown up at all since finally being proven wrong?

>>381109530
>gook has terrible idea
>other gooks have to make this idea not terrible in order to be profitable
>cannot say "but is bad idea boss-sama" or he will dishonor his family name which can only be restored by taking his own life with a sword
>great games come out

Meanwhile in the west:
>faggot has terrible idea
>other faggots think its a great idea because you should stay quiet if you don't have anything positive to say
>cannot say "that sounds terrible" or you will be labeled a shitlord and lose your job
>tumblrinas will dedicate their lives to making sure you never EVER get a job EVER again
>shit games come out

>>381110117
no just people using the name

I already dislike the fact that he's already blowing so much money on hiring well known actors. They add literally nothing to the game. All they do is break the immersion.

Kojima's a fuckin genius, it would take 3 hours to explain the whole story of the MGS series to someone

>>381108942

Yeah no shit.

It's not about being contrarian. It's just that Kojima left to his own devices is going to make a fucking meta post-modern "art" movie thing. That guys ego is out of control and now he's the boss.

>>381108942

2 DEEP 4 U

In all honesty, his team still doesn't get it. They just nod along and praise his autistic narrative.

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Kojima is a bad writer
But he's a bad writer that thinks he's one of the best writers alive, and because of said confidence and ego, he's managed to convince retards on /v/ and other places that he's actually a really good writer.

It's amazing how he can say what he said in the OP picture and not realize that maybe they didn't understand it not because they're stupid, but because it's poorly written such as with Bioshock Infinite.
The man needs to do some serious reflection.

>>381108942
This is why critiquing is a thing, so people can tell you what's retarded and what works. You can't just handwave criticism as "you just don't get it" after you achieve success, just look at George Lucas.

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I wonder how much money he will spend on motion capture this time

>>381110207
>some guy was like gi joe so they cloned him and his kids fought over his legacy
wow so complicated

There's a female character in the game that's naked 100% of the time and is always giving blowjobs in every scene. Before you blow your stack, there's a reason for this and you feel like a dick once you realize that she was in a horrible accident that renders her only able to eat semen to repair her wounds and all of her energy now comes from photosynthesis. Can't believe you guys thought he was a pervert.

>>381110207
Super soldiers and politics.

How long did that take?

>>381109394
Name of the interview?

>>381108942
Maybe he should've tried speaking in english

>>381110397
This needs a brazzers logo in the corner

>>381110376
>>381110362
>>381110393
People will continue to suck Kojima the Hack's dick forever and blame Konami 100% for MGSV being unfinished when in fact Kojima was so unbearable i think that any studio in existence would have enough of him, force him to release the game and told him to fuck off.

>>381110482
theres absolutely nothing wrong in objectifying women in games
its games for fuck sake
let us bask in in the glory and get weird boners

>>381110397
CHINKED

>>381110449
Come on man, you're missing the part where there was like this dude who lost an arm so attatched another guy's arm onto himself but he became that guy in the next game but then 2 games later it turned out to be a trick.
This is some SERIOUS stuff

>>381110397

I wonder if the Reedus and Mads are forced to hang-out with Kojima during unpaid time.

>>381109904
Look man caramel is gone, those threads were fun and all but let that fucking shit go.

>>381108942
Try explaining the plot of MGS to your parents and see if they get it.

>>381109394
MGS2 and beyond was a mistake

>>381110397
MGSV has beatiful animations desu

>>381110687
>>381110482
Fucking this. Trying to to explain your fanservice with lore like a faggot instead of admitting to it is pathetic. This is why Yoko Taro is based and Kojima is not.

This game is the definition of vaporware.

Hell, we all know Metroid Prime 4 is coming out earlier and they only showed a logo.

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>>381110153
I would question this if it didn't sound so plausible

Let's be honest, Kojima goal isn't to make a good game, it's to throw money at D-list nobodies that only hipster trash pretend to be in love with.

>>381110836
My parents can only understand the plot of 90s sitcoms. That's the peak of their intelligence.

Kojima is a fucking hack. Why does he not just become a movie director making indie art films?

>>381110482
It's sad how poor of a reason it was for Quiet.
I mean hell. Could've done something stupid but less stupid like, she had to wear clothes filled with bugs for a week and it gave her ptsd of wearing too much clothing. While still stupid, if you worked that into her story somehow it would make sense why she basically just wears a bra, panties, and fishnet see through (due to the bug paranoia) leggings.

>MG was a creative game but relatively bland.
>MG 2 was just like MG but added more stuff.
>MGS was just like MG 2 but added more stuff.
>MGS 2 was just like MGS but added post modernism.
>MGS 3 managed to pair MGS 2 with a jungle setting and old school movie cliches.
>MGS 4 was a mix of previous ideas with a clusterfuck of a story.
>MGSV is a half finished piece of shit.

He's been making the same game half his life and fails once he goes of track.

>>381110989
>trying to shill nintendo on a DS thread
>being that buthut about not getting DS in her shitty "gaming tablet"

Wew, lad

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>>381110687
Not him, and I'm
>>381111059

I actually agree entirely, I like hot girls in games.
The problem with Kojima is that he felt like having a hot girl in his game just because she's hot makes the game poorly written, so he forced in some stupid poorly written reason for her being dressed hot.

>>381109394
>konami announces metal gear survive
>people hate the idea of zombies in a metal gear solid game
>even though mgs:v had zombies
>even though mgs2 had a vampire
>even though literally every asspull supernatural element in the universe can be handwaved as nanomachines

>>381111173
We don't even know what DS is, when they show some gameplay I'll be butthurt if it's not coming to PC. You will have to buy a PS5 for it though.

>>381110764
did caramel sudoku?

>>381111246
I want to make babies with this sword.

>>381111246
>so he forced in some stupid poorly written reason for her being dressed hot
The problem was also that Quiet had a very generic and boring design. Almost everyone forgot about her while 2B will be remembered for long.

>>381110038
whenever someone says "themes of postmodernism" i have to laugh.

i'm a huge kojima supporter and fan of mgs. but if you have a team that was at least partially with you through the entire mgs series... and then you explain your new idea to them, and they don't get it... there's something wrong. if you explain yourself to 100 people and none of them understand, then the problem usually lies with the person doing the explaining.

>>381110051
And what was that? Releasing a game that was simultaneously functional yet painfully obviously still incomplete?

>>381109813
No. Might be hard to believe for someone who's obsessed with their favorite console

I was on the fence with MGS4 and after I played MGS5 I'll forever see Kojim a as pretentious hack. Death Stranding looks like the worst of that.

>>381108942
> Kojima, Todd, Peter Molyneux, that guy from The No Man's Sky

>>381108942
Kojima doesn't even understand how a C-section works. What makes you think he isn't going to fuck up an entire game based around babies?
Also, MGS 4, PW, and V were utter garbage. An entire decade of shit games despite having all the time in the world and a near limitless budget. He needs to fuck off along with David Cage

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>>381111410
Well that's too bad because she's my wife and we exclusively monogamous where we only have sex with each other under covers with the lights off in missionary position

>>381110207
it would take me 3 hours to explain the whole story of some 13 year old's 100+ chapter sonic fan fiction does that make him a genius?

>So, Mr Kojima, how does it play?
>...
>...
>...
>...

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>>381109918
>MGS4 sucked.

>>381110078
Didn't Fukushime write codec and codec alone?
coincidentally the thing that everyone hated and what fell of the face of the earth post MGS3, lol?

>>381111737
>"Pass the bluray remote bro"

>>381111481
You don't get it anon. It's just that Kojima's genius is not for us, mortals, to understand.

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Kojima is the M Night Shamalayn of video games.

When its good, its really good.
When its bad, it looks like it was made from some other planet what are you doing?

>>381111545
You're cucked by the shota.

>she doesn't wear clothes because she breathes through her skin using NANOMACHINES, SON

Why not just say her skin has nano-sized solar panels embedded in it which power her augmentations? Basically make her skin a battery which would also explain why you can't touch her because if you did you'd get zapped by static discharge.

>also her brain is full of NANOMACHINES, SON and that's why she can't talk

>>381111386
>We don't even know what DS
>compares 2 teaser trailers to a 3 seconds video of the number 4

Wew lad, you are really trying. Kek

>>381111870
is this a shop?

it looks like someone shopped another persons head on it

>>381110187
I agree with this. Also, there is no point. Snake wouldn't be snake if he didn't look like it does. What it's the point in not create a character from 0 in a videogame where it's possible? Pretty sure a film director would be glad of be able to choose how he wants his characters to look.

I believe in this game, I love MGSV, but I think this was unnecessary and will not contribute to the game. It's just good for the trailers, it would have been better a unique character with a unique look. Maybe a new iconic character from videogames? This It's now just impossible.

>>381111760
Considering the codec was like 99% of the story in the first 2 Mgs games I'd say he was more important that Kojimbo ever was.

>>381111406
i dont know man but he was so broken, he even apologized, i think he realized his own autismo at the end and left for good

>>381111921
I don't know about you but I feel ashamed of my words and actions.

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>>381111979
It looks like a masturbation joke.

>>381111507
I completely agree with this.

Hell, MGS is my favorite franchise of all time, MGS4 was such a fucking disappointment it led me to think Kojima isn't capable of writing a good story on his own. Then MGSV happened and I couldn't even finish that, what a fucking joke.

I can't say anything about Death Stranding though, maybe a fresh start is good for him, but we don't know shit about this game yet and it doesn't look like it's coming out any time soon.

>>381110376
I bet you couldn't even explain why you think he's a bad writer

>>381110687
I don't care if a woman is sexy or naked in a game, as long as it's done right. When it's done in poor taste or just awkwardly forced in (like Quiet), then I just think it subtracts from the game's tone.

I've got endless porn and shit to jerk off to, so it doesn't add to my game at all if it's there without a purpose.

>>381110024
>raiden turned out to be a great protag
>and vamp a cool villain
Oh, fuck off. Next thing you will be baiting with "MGS2 was a great postmodern deconstruction and prediction of our online lives and obsession with social media."

Kojima was never fired. Death Stranding is Silent Hills.

>>381111760
he was a writer, director, codec scripter, and did the research on settings/military

>>381111760
I fucking loved the codec in the first 2 games, in the third one it was pretty optional but also fun.

Also source?

>>381109132
Must not read the news then. He got a publishing deal with Sony almost right away.
>>381108942
Mercury poisoning. I'd be more worried if it was Europeans/Canadians not getting it.

>>381111064
post modernism is the new buzzword huh? Watch more Peterson and keep pretending you're gonna get your life in order someday.

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>>381112224
Kill yourself caramel

>>381112180
>"MGS2 was a great postmodern deconstruction and prediction of our online lives and obsession with social media."
Is more about media and information manipulation desu

>>381111942
Mark my words man, MP4 is coming out before DS.

>>381109394
Well, the entire MGS franchise is constant "you got to be kidding me"

>>381112134
Well for one thing, parasites were used because MGSV was set in the 80s and he couldn't use nanomachines. They operate exactly the same, and if you pretend that MGSV takes place in the 00s or 10s, and replace every mention of parasite / wolbachia with nanomachines, the plot actually ends up making more sense than some magic language detecting bug that gives super powers.

He's a hack that couldn't write without his stupid deus ex machina plot device.

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>>381110717
They look happy in this picture.

>>381111979
>>381112065
Lady in the Water has a guy who only works out one arm. He is revealed to be the true hero in the end.

I don't know what its ment to symbolize.

>>381112312
let the poor man die already, also is not fucking fun to call every one ccaramel just for the sake of it, let it go

>>381112312
>loli with suicidal tendencies
Shad can sometimes make good stuff.

>>381112312
He already Self-Terminated, that's just a fagget fishing for (You)'s

>>381109252
Was he speaking in japanese? That might be why.
Idiot desu

>>381112312
>not believing in the very obvious clues left behind

>>381112343
i would be more worried about it being shit like all modern metroid games than its relase date desu

>>381112272
it's weird how people parrot 'post-modern' whenever talking about metal gear solid these days. sure mgs2 is somewhat self-aware... but I don't think kojima had ANY grasp of what irony is, nor do his fanbase. kojima does nothing ironically, he legitimately thinks he is shaping an artform even though he is just a chink hack who is in desperate need of an editor.

>>381110687
But there's a line, dude. Quiet was way the hell over that line. Nothing about her character made sense. A pre-schooler would have put more effort into writing a character.

>>381110869
Too bad Kojima makes much better games. Most of his games are great, only a couple of them were mediocre/bad. Yoko Taro makes boring 30 long hour shit with a couple of interesting ideas here and there or just shit.

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>>381110717
>forced

>>381110764
If he hasn't killed himself by now, I feel he's offending many people by not doing so.

>>381112401
Theyre all asians.

>>381109567
Thats not alot.

>>381109226
It was the best selling MGS in the entire history of the franchise.

It was a huge success.

Why else do you think they wanted to double dip so bad with that weird zombie spin off they showed (but never actually released weirdly)?

>>381111356
The problem isn't that the game has zombies. The problem is that they made it a generic zombie shooters which, at this point, have already been done to death and everyone is sick of them.

>>381112180
>obsession with social media

The plot on MGS2 doesn't have anything to do with that, hell, it didn't predict anything, it´s basically a conspiracy theory that a select group of people running the world also control all information. Don't you remember all those mentions about "creating context"?

>>381111356
Zombies were retarded in 5 and vamp was also questionable and many didn't like his bs ability but found it "cool" in a way despite being never thoroughly explained

Zombies are shit and the trend needs to go away

>>381112401

> Kojima giving Reedus bedroom eyes

> Reedus looking at the camera in a silent plea for help

>>381109394
Vamp is literally one of the best characters in the whole franchise.

Shame they waved away his cool powers with "Lol, nanomachines" in MGS4 though.

>>381112547
That's an entirely different discussion though.

>>381112868
>>381112749
zombies are a bad trend

but so are cinematic third person shooters

death stranding is gonna be dogshit

>>381111356
>Kojima's comment on how "zombies don't work in the MGS universe"
>4 has fucking nanomachine zombies during the end of act 2
He has to be a plain idiot or on an entire new level of irony

>>381108942

So Death Stranding will have a "live" world and a "dead" world, right? Like instead of game over when you die, you just go to the dead world

>>381112096
Death Stranding looks like Kojima is doubling down on his awkward celebrity facial mocap and pretentious surreal shit that doesn't have any real substance. Basically all the stuff that's lost him his charm.

I think he gets enough praise for being so eccentric that he's unaware most people are kind of tired of this shit. Now he's got this convenient underdog story to lean on about how the most hated company in gaming was mean to him.

>>381112562
I don't get how people think MGS2 is that deep. I know I get called a macho MGS3 fag anytime I criticize it. It must be from weird dudebro hatred or something because it didn't give people Solid Snake.

I remember watching some of the Japanese dub of MGS, and oddly enough, Raiden has a far more masculine voice. I think if they gave him a voice like Leon, instead of a whiny teenager then opinions might change with him.

>>381112935
I like zombies tho, im going to pirate the shit of that game, totally not going to give moneyz to yakuza konami

>>381111064
>MGS was just like MG 2 but added more stuff
What? The shift to a 3D environment radically changed the game mechanics, you can't wave it off as "more stuff".

>>381112501
He speaks english with semi-competence, the accent is still kind of thick.
I'm sure he would've had a translator with him if he was speaking to important members of his crew if they did not speak Japanese

>>381110687
Men should be objectified too, if the women are getting this dumb fanservice.

Kojima is pretty good about objectifying men and making fanservice for women/gays but should've had Boss roll around shirtless in the rain too.

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>>381110764
tfw all caramel had to do was not be a sperg who put everything on the line for a half cocked theory and he could have made friends on /v/ or /vg/ discords and found other metal gear fans to talk about the game with and discuss theories

>>381113114
The game is 3D but plays with a fixed camera, and since you can't shoot in first person it didn't really was that much of a change other than multiple levels in each room, but all separated by stairs.

>>381108942
>tfw when game is too intelligent to sell well

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Woah, I'm such a deep writer... who creates deep stories...

>>381113385
>tfw when a dev is trying too hard to be deep

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Did the gameplay for this even come out? Is it an action game? A visual novel?

>>381113030

Hes becoming the George Lucas of games now. I think hes gotten to a point where no one is going to question him or give him any constructive criticism and just suck his dick

>>381112743
>Why else do you think they wanted to double dip so bad with that weird zombie spin off they showed (but never actually released weirdly)?
Survive is still coming out (it was even present in E3). It's just that they delayed it to early 2018.

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>>381113464
Why does everyone want to be him?

>>381113417
>It was supposed to be shit
T-Thanks Kojima!

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>>381113235
He actually put gay romance scenes in Peace Walker.

While on the topic of PW, freindly reminder that a game for the PSP had more content and far better writing than MGSV.

>>381113517
It's clearly a movie.

I don't understand why people here are hating on MGS series, it's fantastic. The stories are always a ride and the gameplay is fun because of the sheer number of ways to pull shenanigans as your sneak through places.

>>381113517
I don't think even the dev team knows this.

>>381113235
>Men should be objectified too, if the women are getting this dumb fanservice.
All fucking SJWs must fucking hang.

>>381113624
The gameplay was better too.

It was an all around better game.

>>381108942
>It's a Kojima overcomplicates everything episode.

>>381111356
Rising 2 was orignally going to be Gray Fox fighting nanonachines-created-zombies

so no, it's just Survive being a generic zombie shooter

>>381113624
PW was a step back from PO though.

>>381112935
>"Death Stranding will be the end of Kojima's career" says the increasingly nervous PCfat for the 1000th time this decade

Kojima is hilarious. He's completely obsessed with Hollywood.

>>381113554
Literally everyone on his team told him the announcement trailer for Death Stranding was a terrible idea. There are plenty of examples of his team criticizing him.

>>381113970
It's over! Kojima is FINISHED!

>>381113795
PW was fun, but it was totally watered down for some reason. I hate how MGSV made fultoning a chore. Really ruins the freedom aspect of the game.

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>MGS2 was favorite game during teen years.
>Spend dozens of hours discussing the story with friend.
>Always waiting for a sequel.
>MGS3 gets announced.
>It's a prequel.
>Great game but not what I wanted.
>MGS4 finally announced.
>PS3 game.
>Takes ages to come out.
>DID U RIKE IT.jpg
>Utterly disappointed.

>Years later.
>MGS 5 gets announced.
>Two parts.
>Bridges MG and MGS.
>Start feeling hype again.
>Imagine all the cool things that could happen.
>See all the amazing trailers.
>MGS4 is forgiven, this will be amazing.
>Game comes out.
>It's an unfinished mess and 90% of the cutscenes were already shown in the trailers.
>Last mission of the entire series is the walking simulator tutorial mission with 2 minutes of extra cutscenes.
>Never been so disappointed in my life.

There is literally no way I'm going to get hyped for DS. No fucking way. I'd be happy if it turns out of the be cool but right now I'm assuming it's going to be a big piece of shit.

>>381113970
>>381114087

Kojumphy is done!

>>381110397
the joosten is so fucking average. Look at that tiny subhuman skull.

>>381112045
does anyone have archives of those threads? I'm in the middle of exams, so I was kinda busy during E3

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Kojimbo most importantly needs an editor and if he has one he needs like two.
>>381114236
Nice shit taste.

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>>381108993
making fun of things you hate is entertainingSince making fun of bad games is more fun than praising good games, others people tend to make memes out of games they hate, it then spreads trought the board, from that point on whover tries to speak positively of that game can be ''meme'd into submission, when was the last time you saw a ''meme'' that praised a game ?

>>381109132
He's got the funding, he has an engine to tinker with, the game's already in development. There's no reason to assume it's not already past a point of no return. And sony has no reason to can it and draw the ire of the general public that loves to kiss kojimbo's ass especially when he's just using another proprietary engine that'll make the game look fucking great even if it sucks ass. It'll be something they show off at tradeshows for years.

>>381114065
>Death Stranding was a terrible idea
And it was fucking amazing desu

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Kojima always has been and always will be a hack.

Your slope God is a fucking idiot who cannot write for shit. His stories read like turbo edgy film student garbage, but because video games are a less intelligent medium, your average"gamer" thinks his stuff is high art..

>>381111356
No one hated the zombies you massive faggot.

>>381114168

Literally me.

Kojima's claim to fame has always been that he isn't afraid to put weird or quirky shit in games. He was never, ever, EVER renowned for being a highly competent game designer.

>all cash Sony earns goes to Kojima
>Kojima uses the cash to import food from the us
>Sony eventually goes bankrupt
>Atari replaces them with their new console
What a time to be alive.

>>381113517

We've seen gameplay in the two trailers. The game's going to be a baby hugging simulator.

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>>381114168
The story was a garbage but i think the gameplay that backed it was good enough to make the game worth it, i had way more fun doing F.O.Bs,and developing motherbase than i had with the storyI also played MSG3, MSG2 and MSG Peace Walker, i saw the trailer got hyped to hell and was disapointed with the final product

>>381114168

I feel lucky that I dropped Kojima with 4 now. I never had to experience all his subsequent failures. Though during the MGS5 marketting stage with all the ruses, I did feel like you did, that MGS4 might be forgiven, and I was strongly considering getting it. But thank fuck I was busy with work at the time, and decided to wait a few weeks for reviews and until I got some time off to play it.

I ended up not even buying it at all.

>>381111356
>konami annouces meral gear survive
>kojidrones sperg like crazy
>youtubers do reaction videos overracting without knowing shit about the game with themselves with hands on their head in the thumbnail
>I watch the first gameplay streaming and think this might be fun
>the same people that negatively overracted to the first trailers play the demo at E3 2017 and admit it's actually fun
>even the number one kojidrone konami hater yongyea plays the demo and says it's fun

>>381115160
The weird and quirky stuff put in MGS1 was actually pretty novel and entertaining. From then on it was just awkward and typically done better by other JP devs

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>>381115458
MGSV is a legitimately good game
Peace Walker too

>>381109904
Did Kojima create Armstrong?

>>381110207
It would take me a week straight to describe the plot of Subspace Emissary Worlds Conquest. I guess it's not only the longest work of English fiction, but the smartest too.

base management was the single worst idea ever put into the series and I despise MGSV for making an even bigger deal out of it

>>381115458
If you waited for reviews you might have gotten it. Most major reviewers gave it massively positive scores because they were scared of gamerbaby backlash, were probably paid and reviewers generally have shit taste when it comes to things like story, tone, characters. Reviewers need a chart or some framework to tell them if a character is good or not, which is why alot of them just automatically subscribe to if a character is diverse, they're a good character.

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>>381109132

>>381108942
Reminder anyone who thinks Kojima is ""deep"" is retarded

>>381115567
The fact that MGS1 was such a big and influential game for people who went into video game journalism is probably the only reason people ever treated Kojima like some kind of modern Miyamoto. People judge him by the quality of his game design probably aren't old enough to remember when people were constantly debating whether MGS1 or 2 were even worth a shit for their gameplay or just the cutscenes.

>yfw the caramel redemption arc begins

>>381109747
I rove you Jeff

>>381115956
I liked base/army management alot, and think it was one of the few saving graces of that shitty game. That said they did a very bad job of it with shit like forcing the online on you and the base building turning out to be pretty boring overall after a short while.

>>381115995

By reviews I meant gauging /v/'s opinion on it.

>>381115627

Looks fucking garbage to be honest. Both MGSV and PW.

>>381112180
MGS2 was a great postmodern deconstruction and prediction of our online lives and obsession with social media.

>>381113591
Anno just does weird shit and End of Evangelion was basically a shitpost in movie form. Everyone misunderstands his process and goes in trying to be deep.

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>>381113591
because he made a shit series that flopped so hard they shoved it onto the adult timeslot to try and kill it, but retards mistook it for something "deep" and then it blew up.

>>381116062
Oh I remember those debates, but I just found them to be pretty moot. Cinematic games weren't all over the place back then, and at the time it felt very engaging to me. I remember when game boxes used to brag about how much FMV they had on the disk as if it was a very important feature. I certainly thought it was.

Different times from today. Alot of that criticism, I feel, was just people being contrarians, but in MGS1's case it's not unwarrented, given the gameplay wasn't the best part of the game. It definitely rested on great voice direction and story.

I still think almost 20 years after MGS, game story and writing is still pretty underdeveloped and seen as an afterthought when to me it's still one of the most important parts of how well a game is memorable for me.

>>381116285
Oddly enough even Peace Walker is a better game than TPP I feel.

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>>381116720
>>381116512
>anons who know absolutely nothing about cinematography pretending they know shit

>>381117115
I don't care about cinematography, it's obvious that his shitty, failed shonen was failing, else it wouldn't have got shoved to a later timeslot. Anno's a talentless hack with no sense of proper budgeting either, or he wouldn't have had to turn the last two episodes of the series into garbage doodles.

>>381112808
>a select group of people running the world also control all information.
Sounds like Deus Ex.

>>381112045
Seconding archive link, missed it during the E3 chaos :(

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>>381117328
Such a nice opinion anon.

>>381110397
thank u mister skeleton

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>>381116720
>>381116512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X9RUOEOoNQ

Caramel was the phantom postification of that little part inside all of us who wanted more, that tiniest spark of hope.

Why do a lot of people here dislike MGS4?

>>381112680
>why are you taking my picture?
>who is this guy?
>where did I get this ridiculous outfit?
his looks says it all fampai desu

>>381118006
Ps3 exclusive and muh cutscenes.

>>381108942
>>381108993
It's about dudes that get pregnant. It's going to be GARBAGE.

>>381109685
10000x this

kojima is a hack and if anyone thinks konami was the only one to blame for it being such a letdown is absolutely delusional

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>>381118006
Because it sucks ass

So why doesnt he move into hollywood if he just wants to make movies anyway, is it, dare i say it, cause hes a hack that not even the hollyjews take serious?

>>381109226
R u kidding

It was guaranteed profitable

>>381118398
They're completely different industries you fucking moron. A hollywood director would suck ass making games. A game director would suck ass making movies. They are two entirely separate set of skills.

Grow the fuck up truly.

>>381118347
Kojima is overrated as hell and he did, no doubt, mess up BUT Konami gets a fair share of the blame too. Plus Konami is a terrible company overall. Honestly the best thing that could possibly happen is the whole industry being razed to the ground and being rebuilt from 0 by people who love the medium.

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>MGS4 is shit
>PW is shit
>V is shit
>Death Stranding will be ____
Kojima makes absolutely retarded decisions without someone to reign him in

>>381109390
He's terrible without Tomozaku, literally not worth playing his games.

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>>381108942
This only means that even if it's bad, it'll be amazing to see. I love this retarded bullshit.

>>381110187
>well known actors
C-listers are not well known nor are they particularly expensive compared to the video game standard.

>>381118765
MGS4, PW and V were good. I literally pre-ordered 2 Crash copies.

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>>381118225
whatever you say, anon.

>>381109813
Alright, I'll give you a real answer. It was mgs5. Don't let newfags trick you.

>>381118359
>Snake is a literal cuck
JUST

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Uh, huh.

>>381110397
Combined penis size of all of those men put together, 4 inches. Meanwhile the girl easily has an 8 inch cock

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>>381118006
>writing was mediocre to bad because no Tomokazu Fukushima to keep Kojima grounded, basically a George Lucas/Sakamoto situation
>Gameplay to cutscene ratio was bad; too much interruption and replayability is a pain in the ass unlike the earlier entries
>pointless cameos, especially the ending
>melodrama out the ass
>character assassination of the MGS3 codec team; they're suddenly the bad guys
>the Patriots/Philosophers mentioned MGS2 and MGS3 are now just the MGS3 codec team gone rogue. Those guys that Otacon found out died 100 years earlier? They're unimportant.


This is a personal issue, but while it expands on MGS3's gameplay mechanics decently, it feels sluggish because of the framerate and the way Snake moves. It's the equivalent of the original Metal Gear vs. Metal Gear 2; Metal Gear 2 is a good game but the controls feel more sluggish because there's a frame or two of animation where Snake has to pivot before changing direction, unlike in MG1.

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>>381110397

>>381110207
You have to realize /v/ is the master of simplifying everything.

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>>381108942
this is going to be the prequels of video games

Samething happened with Rez

>>381119360
He Philosophers were actual people though, they had nothing to do with the MGS3 team.

>>381119181
>ha ha i can't believe i'm about to eat this stinky shit wait till my agent hears what he got me into this time!

>>381111356
The zombies in V were dogshit

>>381112447
>caramel
fuck off caramel, you garbage shitbag faggot

>>381118318
Seriously?

>>381109440
>It looks fresh and exciting
>Literally no gameplay shown

>>381119557
why are you so assblasted that Mads get to hang out with Kojima-San?

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>>381109394
Why does he look so sad?

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>>381116695

>4chan is now stealing jokes from reddit/twitter/imgur

>>381109132
This. I applied for Kojima's LA studio in 2013. HR told me "they need people who understand console development through and through" because the executive team would constantly propose concepts "challenging for most veterans". He's the worst kind of delusional idea man, and now he's in charge of making it come together. Will never happen.

>>381117115
Anon, take a look at this fucking thread. It can be summed up as: /v/ pretends they know what they're talking about

>>381111064
Snatcher and Policenauts were pretty cool. So was Zone of the Enders but he didn't really have a whole lot to do with that.

Was there someone else involved in 1-3 that made them good? Maybe someone telling Kojima that his writing was retarded?

>>381119536
I know, I meant the original premise of the Patriots/Philosophers being "dead men somehow still in control of society 100 years later" was instead turned into "the Patriots were Big Boss/Zero, their friends and their work".

>>381120108
>LA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH!

>>381111870
That's actually pretty apt

MGS1-3 are Sixth Sense and Unbreakable
MGS4 is Signs
MGSV is Lady in the Water

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>>381120031
You sure it's not just a drawfag who did that? I assumed it was.

4>PW>3>V>1>2

>>381113624
Which is really saying something when PW's writing was fucking garbage

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>>381120706
(You)

>>381120836
Facts are facts, even if they hurt.

>>381116159
> not "I love you... (what was his name again?)...Jeff"

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>>381120928

>>381118006
because /v/irgins are ADHD addled autistic children who can't sit still and appreciate a few lengthy cutscenes

>>381120445
I didn't take the job for all the aforementioned reasons you gibbering inbred.

>>381120706
3 > V = 4 > 2 > 2 > pisscucker

>>381121202
or maybe we just wanted some gameplay

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>>381121202
>a few lengthy cutscenes

>gameplay
>cutscene
>loading screen
>cutscene
>loading screen
>cutscene
>gameplay
>cutscene
>gameplay
>cutscene
>loading screen
>repeat

Just admit that 4 wasn't like its predecessors. I'll even say that V was better than 4 despite being unfinished and not at all what we asked for plot-wise in addition to the writing being poor, simply for the fact that it didn't have as many interruptions, the gameplay was faster, and it ran at a good framerate (60fps at 1080p).

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>>381119360
I haven't played Ghost Babel, but is there any stretch of the imagination that would allow it to be canon? I mean regardless of what Kojima or Konami has to say about it, does it ACTUALLY conflict with anything in the story?

>>381119386
nice

>>381121385
I think he's laughing at you for being a fucking retard. The LA team only worked on MGO and Kojima had no involvement with it.

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>>381120031
It started here, you nitwit.

>>381119386
My sides.

>>381118950
weak bait

>>381121805
It's implied to be a VR simulation that Raiden is doing but the events of the game itself are explicitly non-canon.

On a slightly related note, Ghost Babel's story is pure GameBoy kino

>>381121101
correct but missing games

>>381113795
Completely agree.

>>381121805
I played Ghost Babel but didn't finish it but based on prior knowledge and what I played it COULD be an alternate history of Snake's escapades after Metal Gear 2.

>>381122043
>spoiler
I thought that was the MGS1 VR missions being referenced in MGS2.

>>381120706
PW>1>3>V>2>4

Acid 1 > PO > Acid 2

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>Tomokazu Fukushima (福島 智和, born December 28, 1972) is the co-writer of several video games in the Metal Gear series. He is also the writer of Metal Gear: Ghost Babel and Snake Tales.

>Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence (2005) — Writer, Scripter, Scripter (Radio)
>Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (2004) — Writer, Scripter, Scripter (Radio), Setting Research/Justification
>Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (2001) — Writer, Writer ('The New York Mirror', 'In The Darkness of Shadow Moses'), Scripter (Codec), Setting Research/Justification
>Metal Gear: Ghost Babel (2000) — Writer
>Metal Gear Solid (1998) — Writer, Scripter (Scenario Demo), Setting Design Assistant, Camera Setting

Really calls my codec.

Every Kojima made games I have ever played I only tend to understand like 25% of it. The guy's either too abstract and a genius or a complete idiot and a fraud. I still like his games the most tho. They make me think I'm retarded.

>>381122427
Punished Vemon Fukushima

>>381119863
why you ask? hes living in her moms basement wirting homo erotic mgs fan fiction, do the math

I wish it wasn't another MGS game or that it wasn't exclusive, but what are the odds of that eventually happening

>>381120470
>Sixth Sense and Unbreakable
so are you trying to imply they were shit? because sixth sense is fucking shit. Kek

>>381122356
If you complete all the special missions, a mysterious person refers to the player as "Jack".

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>>381122397
>Acid 1 > PO > Acid 2
You're joking right?

>>381108942
no one needs to get it

>>381120108

Well you're a fucking retard, because Kojima has nothing to do with the fucking LA studio.

It amazes me how little you Kojima contrarians actually fucking know about the guy. At least get your facts straight before you go full- Razorfist.

>>381122925
Acid 2 is pure kino

>>381123024

Yeah, it's not going to affect the final product when the people working on it have no fucking clue what they are supposed to do.

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>>381108993
/v/ in a nutshell.

>>381111545
>lights off
normie

>>381120706
Literally the worst taste

>>381112964
>>4 has fucking nanomachine zombies during the end of act 2


No? Do you know what a zombie is, or are you just making shit up to be like "AHA, GOTCHA NOW HACK KOJIMBLES!"

>>381108942
>It's going to be a catastrophe.

-op's mom on her pregnancy.

Where's Caramel right now? Did he off himself?

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>>381122875
Oh shit, I have to give Ghost Babel another try.

>>381122427
I liked how MGS1-3 had excessive details about their settings, whereas everything was ambiguous in MGS4.

>>381123424
Sadly it doesn't really make much of a difference in the overall story. GB in general felt it was setting up a much larger story that never happened.

>>381122973
Explain yourself.

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>>381119386

Fucking nice.

>>381108942
I don't know what you are talking about. Its going to be a great film.

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>>381108942

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>>381110397

>>381123398
I kinda miss him. I couldn't go on /v/ the days after E3, so I never got to witness what happened when there was actually no big reveal.

>>381119360
>Fukushima leaves Konami, presumably killed by the Yakuza

I can't tell sarcasm anymore.

Link?

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>Muh kojidrone!
>Hack Kojima!
>George Lucas of video games!
>Metal Gear Survive is actually good you guys!
>Kojima almost bankrupted Konami, the multi-billion dollar company!
>Kojima only cares about Hollywood fame because of Guilermo, Mads Mikkelsen and Norman Reedus!
>Kojima killed Castlevania despite minimal involvement you guys!

Anti-Kojima drones are actually fucking retarded.

Why do I even come to this place anymore. You fucks are as bad as Neogaf, minus the getting banned for political disagreement part.

>>381123629
Acid 2 is better than Acid 1 in every conceivable way

>>381124035

Are you surprised no one on /v/ actually knows anything about game development?

>>381124035
Asshurt Kojimadrone spotted.

>>3811089142
>The baby!

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>>381123589
I played up until the sewer flood section or maybe a little past that when you have to find Chris.

I know the game was supposed to be a modern take on MG1 + MG2 but something about it just made me lose my attention, and I played through MG1 + MG2.

>>381111052
Intelligence is hereditary

>>381124035
>make nothing but duds after 4, including some of 4 itself.
>expect me to not call it out.

>>381121905
>>381123032
>kojidrones actually believe this

hahahahaha
his name was fucking on the studio for a reason. such delusion.
>b-but kojimas my personal friend so if his twitter or kotaku article doesn't say something, it's not true!
oh wow

Does anyone have that screencap where Kojima says that he'll probably leave gaming industry if he fails taboo realization in MGSV

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>/v/ claims to hate movies games
>Kojima literally said that games and movies should merge
>Kojima prefers to make movies over video games but knows deep down that he's a hack so he sticks to video games
>If you take a look at Kojima's twitter he only seems to be interested in movies and actors
>already fills his games with actors before he even has a game concept figured out
Why does /v/ praise this hackfraud and his "games" again?

>>381121101

I'd expand heavily on that list honestly.

Also, the original trilogy is better than MGS4, but MGS4 was good. Fuck off.

>>381123968
It's sarcasm, it's just when you try to google Fukushima nothing about him comes up in recent years.

Another anon mentioned to me a few weeks ago that he's supposedly working at Sony's Japan Studio, but I didn't find a confirmation apart from a Neogaf thread.

Kojima cant make games, he can only jerk off over his shitty logo.

>>381109390
How? The one thing he gets praised for, the mumbo jumbo in MGS2, was a bastard version from a well-known book in sociology from the 1980's whose name escapes me because it was a bloody Japanese book.

It's going to be Metal Gear with some Silent Hill sprinkled in. You'll control a character who runs and guns or sneaks his way through some freakish nightmare. Screenshot this.

>>381124638
I really liked MGS 1 and MGS 3
yeah but he's a hack, Konami did the right thing by firing him.

For example, we still have zero idea how Death Stranding will play, but we know 3 holywood faces that's in it. Why?

>>381112401
the other dude is like
>what the fuck the did you just say?
Reedus
>can you believe this nigga?

>>381124638

That's the worst "JUST"-edit I've seen yet.

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>>381124440
Not him but that's absolutely wrong.

Actually finish high school biology before spouting misinformation, also that makes you too young to be posting here.

>>381112312
get raped

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>>381124140

>>381125287
Not him, but I agree with him, Acid 1 was a pain to play through

Acid 2 was more fun than peace walker.

>>381119360

Oh boy, the Tomozaku Fukushima meme.
>If I keep repeating the same Neogaf parroted cliche over and over again, it might become true.

Do you know what he also wrote? Ac!d. Fucking awful story.

I also love how Murata is conveniently forgotten about, every time this comes up.
You idiots don't know shit if you honestly think a video game series is winged solely by one person.

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>>381124658
>I'd expand heavily on that list honestly.

I didn't make it, another anon did in a thread a few weeks ago.

>but MGS4 was good. Fuck off.

Alright, explain to me why you think MGS4 was good. I already admit the gameplay was fine when you could actually play. But please, why was MGS4 good in your opinion?

>>381125416
looks like the casuals are out in full force today.

Oh boy, I love summerfags.

>>381109904
>>381110764
Ruse or not, TPP was bad on purpose.
Even the voice directing for Skullface took a hit.

Kojima stories aren't deep, they are convoluted messes with shallow subjects with perceived deepness hiding behind ambiguity/overall lack of explanation

>>381108942
Honestly anyone who thinks this is retarded. The more convoluted and pretentious a story is the better it is. A shit story is the mark of a real writer.

>>381112392
What if I told you TPP is not real/didn't take place in the 80s?

>>381108942
>expecting our current game *teams* to be able to understand anything that is even remotely intelligent or obscure.

It's like you ignore how stupid our good old western games are getting.

>>381109685
It was a pretty fun game.

>>381118765

MGSV was at the very least "fine" when compared to other open world games coming out the same time.

Peace Walker especially is a fantastic PSP game.

I don't expect anyone to agree to MGS4 being good though, considering it has been talked to death at this point, but even 4 was at the very least the Drakengard 3 of its series.

>>381112808
The Patriots were an analogy to the entire scenario being an asspull. Read between the lines.

>>381118765

>All the influx of new Coco porn

Nice

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>>381112312

>>381125446
Kojima? Is that you?

>>381109446
>1999
Kek, is that true? So much for calling people kiddo.

>>381124638
Oh and to add, his games are like 70% cutscenes and the parts that aren't cutscenes are filled with mediocre gameplay which consists of either bland stealth sections or annoying boss fights thanks to the awful shooting controls. If you want to play an actual stealth game play a Thief or Splintercell game.