Which joystick is the best for PC gaymin?

Xbox One, without question.
>native PC support
>actually analog
>god-tier controller to boot

>>380986295
>God-tier
Not with those bumpers.

>>380986295
>joystick

Microsoft Sidewinders.

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>>380986154
arguably the BEST controller for PC is the steam controller, nothing comes close.
its above any other controller i've ever used but under Kb/M, also you can play ANY game, it doesnt matter if it doesnt have controller support, the right pad can be used as a mouse and you can customize it completely.
also if you ever played splatoon youll know how good Gyro aiming feels, well the SC has Gyro too.

Switch Pro. Just don't try to use it with an android

>>380986295
Will I have any problems if I take wireless?

>>380987240
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-on-windows/accessories/connect-xbox-one-controller-to-pc
If you have Windows 10, you shouldn't have any problem.

>>380986929
Looks annoying for FPS

>>380987736
but how long do the batteries last?
I am thinking between wireless and wired

>>380986929
it only works for steam games...
no thanks

>>380986295
>native PC support
Sure, if you're one of those insane people running Windows 10. For the rest of us you'll have to download a driver through M$ via Windows Update (good luck). If I can plug it in and have it working without having having to download drivers, then it's natively supported.

The DS4 works on PC out of the box (at least if you plug it in via USB) without any driver finagling as a simple DirectInput controller with none of the advanced features working like the touchpad or sixaxis.

>>380986154
Xbox One for analog games.
PS4 for 2D/retro games/fighting games.
Steam controller for FPS/strategy/anything that needs a mouse game.

For actual consoles...

8bitdo NES/SNES/Wii Retro Adapter + PS4 controller.

Brook PS3/PS4 to NeoGeo Super Converter + PS4 controller.

Also, I think I found a solution for playing any retro consoles with a PS4 controller.
You need the ToToTek adapter + this thing:
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f19/how-build-your-own-ps2-bluetooth-adapter-use-real-ps3-ps4-controllers-wirelessly-your-ps2-127728

Sadly there is no perfect solution for Dreamcast, since there are no adapters with analog trigger function.

Nintendo 64 is perfect for playing N64 games, but you need to fix the analog sticker with a SteelStick64 and ENKKO gears.

Print and glue some Vinyl decals on the stickers with button correct console layout on the PS4 controllers for retro gaming and you are done.

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>>380986929
Man of refined tastes. The controller is seriously something special. I use it for everything but twinstick shooters and 2d games with bad stick support.

Analog sticks are a cancer on the industry that we haven't abandoned solely because the autistic cannot cope well with change.

>>380988163
Non steam game support got added. Just run em through Steam.

>>380986295
>150 dollars just to get the version with backpaddles when my Steam controller I bought for 35 has those and is objectively more accurate
No thanks.

wii u pro controller

like 70 hours of battery life
combination of 360 controller and ps3 controller in the best way

>>380989284
But then you're stuck with that cheap piece of shitty plastic.

360 if you're still on Win7 and don't see yourself switching OS anytime soon

Xbone controller if you have win10

>>380987769
it really isn't, in fact, it's on par with KB/M, albeit not AS precise.

>>380989459
>implying the steam controller is in any way/shape/form bad
(You)

>>380989641
maybe if your brain is wired autismally

it's like playing FPS with a trackpad and it's about as awkward as it sounds

>>380989459
>We stuck the cheapest chunk of metal we found into our controller to make it feel heavy, it's "luxury" now
The Xbone One pro controller is literally BEATS tier. The additions it has are genuinely nice but they should be asking 100 hundred for it at the absolute maximum and even then it'd be pushing it

>>380989836
compared to what?, joysticks?
i have the feeling you dont know what Gyro aiming is.

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>>380989836
>Steam controller trackpads
>Anything like a laptop trackpad
How to spot somebody who's never touched the controller.

>>380988636
It lasts a really long time. You shouldn't have to go wired over battery life concerns.

>>380989872
with the amount of money you pay for the XXXXclusive Xbone Pro Controller you could buy a Steam Controller, a Steam Link and a fuckton of games on Sale.

> gaymin
>>>/lgbt/

>>380990131
And play them all badly

>>380990128
>>380987940
responded to wrong post

>>380990002
He saw his favourite youtube reviewer trash it so it must be bad.

>>380990131
I bought a Steam Link and a controller.

The controller is great but fuck me Steam Link is garbage
>Great internet
>Computer and Link both wired
>Still getting freezes and terrible picture quality on the "fast" setting

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>>380990217
Found the guy that wasted 100 bucks.

wired x360 (wireless is a meme) for when you want a controller, buffalo snes for 2d emulation

>>380988636
>Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Seventeen
>Being afraid of an operating system

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>Gaymin
Is that a Pikmin that marries his bro-Pikmin?

I've decided to go with wired xbox one
if I can't find it wired xbox 360 gamepad

>>380988163
What? It only works with games launched through Steam, but you can add non-Steam games and it works perfectly fine. It even has community configurations for shittons of non-Steam games.

>>380990292
True, i have mine and it hasnt given me any problems but i do know it has a LOT of bullshit.

would change the Steam Link for more games

>>380990350
It's not a waste if it actually works.

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>>380990217
>Objectively more accurate controls than a standard dual analog stick controller
>"And play them all badly"
Enjoy your Beats by Microsoft my guy.

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>>380990002

The Xbox One controller, anything else is memes.

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>>380990528
So even worse, you bought one, failed at configuring a game for 5 minutes, and never touched the thing again?

>>380989459
It's literally the same kind of plastic that went into the Xbox 360 controller. Just the Steam Controller is lighter because it doesn't have that retarded battery pack in the back of the wireless 360 controller.

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>>380990484
if it did, you wouldnt be raging so bad rn.

>>380986929
>That left track pad
Hardcore buyer's remorse desu. Outside of Rocket League, Civ, and RE4 that lack of D-pad or right stick makes everything unplayable. I love the grips though

>>380990512
>trackball
>accurate

I remember the 90s when people hyped trackballs to be the next big gaming device. And then no one adopted them because they were shit. Just use a mouse for the things that can't be done in a normal controller.

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>>380990484
Works slightly better than a standard xbone controller for triple the price

>>380990607
you can assume assumptions all you want

I wouldn't recommend this retarded piece of hardware to my worst enemy

>>380990709
That's a dumb line of logic. As expected from someone defending a trackpad.

>>380989740
how is it not bad? the touchpad part makes it objectively terrible

>>380990779
>he doesnt have his left pad input as touch only
>>380990802
Again, you really dont know what the fuck Gyro is, do ya?

>>380986929
anyone reading this don't fall for thin meme. Unless your dedicated to suck at every game for 1000 hours dont buy this piece of shit. It seriously sucks. Like really.

>>380990802
Nobody adopts replacements to analog because the autistic cannot cope well with change and whichever console dev makes the jump to the future of controllers first is guaranteed to lose the gen. Just like Nintendo and the analog stick in gen 5. The PS1 didn't chip with analog sticks on it's original controllers because people were maligning them as an unnecessary gimmick

>>380986295
PS4 controller is native now too.

PS4 or Bluetooth Xbox controller? Can I use the track pad as a mouse?

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>>380990902
>>380990937
>it's another "I've seen reviews of the controller and never touched it" episode.

>>380988636
What's so bad about installing a driver? If it works within 5 minutes of plugging it in it's natively supported. Xbox One controllers work on 7 and 8 just fine.

>>380990802
Also
>Trackball
Who the fucks talking about a trackball.
The Steam Controller has trackpads and they're the most versatile means of controlling a game that exists currently.
Trackpad/Gyro is the best controller solution that exists currently.

>>380991063
Except people ended up adopting analog sticks because they worked. No one ever adopted a fucking trackball because it's a retarded concept that either mouse or analog stick does better depending on what you're playing.

>>380986583
The new controller has much better bumpers

>>380986295
It's also supposed to be sturdier than other controllers.

>>380991274
Analog sticks fit the baseline criteria of "functional", nothing more.

>>380991248
Yeah, just look at all those pros playing videogames on their laptops. Really versatile.

>>380991274
>people ended up adopting analog sticks because they worked.
you mean the were forced to adapt.

>>380990607
You can't configure something that is inherently fucked.

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>>380991354
>Trackpads on the SC even in the same ballpark as laptop trackpads
>He thinks the only thing the trackpads do is mouse and camera stick controls
>I've never even held a Steam controller and I want everbody to know it
Laugh at this faggot.

>>380991354
see>>380991192
Are you retarded enough to think that you use your index finger on the right pad? kek.

>>380991063
>using nintendo, whom hasn't produced a mainstream controller since the snes, as an example of where controllers are going
>the company that ditched competing even slightly with sony and microsoft to make their own mobile platform and compete with themselves/3ds instead
>the company that tried to push wagglan and the n64 controller

fucking kek. analog isn't going anywhere in games.

>>380991169
You can use track pad as a mouse if you have DS4Windows running. It might work natively now too though I'm not entirely sure. Either way it's very easy to set up

>>380991429
No one took away the d-pad from them. People just found out they were better for 3d games. Trackpad is a shitty sidegrade that is straight up worse.

>>380986929
>Forced to use big picture mode to configure it

I never threw something into the back of my closet to forget it existed faster.

>>380991637
i agree on that statment doe, Big Picture Mode is ass and i fucking hate it...
BUT you can configure the game without it, you just gotta start your controller and every game will have an "Configure steam controller" on default.

I'm pretty fucking impressed how the Switch Pro Controller is instantly compatible with Big Picture mode from the get-go, and that the Home button even opens it up.

>>380991192
not an argument?

>>380989284
Steam controller costs 55 euros while the xbox one 50.

>>380990460
What the fuck? that's retarded
I was thinking about getting one but there's no way now

>>380991552
>analog isn't going anywhere in games.
Oh I'm well aware. That's the problem though.

>using nintendo, whom hasn't produced a mainstream controller since the snes, as an example of where controllers are going
One of the least intelligent statements I've ever read. Gamecube was the last Nintendo console to exclusively have non traditional controllers. The Wii pro, WiiU pro, and Switch pro controllers all exist, and the WiiU tablet is literally a normal controller with a tablet screen, it grips and weighs exactly the same.

>>380991890
and a wired 360 is better than both for $25

>>380991890
Steam controller went on sale a few weeks ago for 35. As it does from time to time.

>>380991973
>shit dpad
Nah

>>380987769
>>380990217
>>380990802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36HnfZF_cVA
Anyone interested in the Steam Controller should watch this video instead of the shitty reviews.

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>>380991937
>a regular controller
>with a tablet screen

now you're just pretending to be dumb. its nothing like a typical controller. here this is a totally normal controller too.

What's a good wired controller for PS4?

>>380991886
heres your argument>>380992142

>>380990647
fails me for every game on pc that used xbox 360 controllers natively. every fucking time the analogs would be rotated about 90 degrees and everything would be fucked. i own two of them, they were great for emulators, but never functioned properly for shit like mirrors edge and shit ported from 360.

>>380992114
if you play fighting games with an analog controller you're doing it wrong either way

and what else do you need it for?

menu navigation?

bitch please, the days of the dpad are long gone

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>>380992173
It's held 1:1 like you would a normal controller. It feels no different in your hands.

The retards who chimp out at the first sign of something different on a controller are one of the most detrimental forces in the video game industry today.

>>380992142
Looks worse than just straight up using m+kb senpai. Reminds me of that video where Polygon plays Doom and they can't shoot and move at the same time.

>>380992431
as i said before in this thread, is not a KB/M replacement, but i'll be damned if it isnt a complete upgrade to any single kind of controller in the market
also, That dude was playing with a PS4 Controller, makes ya think doesnt it?

>>380992375
you're still missing the point. nintendo doesn't produce controllers you use for things besides nintendo games. where as sony and microsoft typically put out a controller you can also use comfortably on your pc for every game. the last nintendo controller that was close to mainstream and usable for most things was the snes and its why i suggest the buffalo controller for emulation.

the gamecube controller wasn't bad but its still far enough from the others that you wouldn't want to use it for other things, lacking buttons etc

Depending on the game I use

PC game first, expects mouse: Steam Controller
Modern Console game first, expects Controller: PS4 passed through steam controller interface so I can do rebinds and functions
Old emulated console game: Switch Procon

>>380992794
well the new Switch Pro Controller has Gyro, and the Wii U Pro Controller was PC Compatible (you just needed an Adapter)

>>380992794
>nintendo doesn't produce controllers you use for things besides nintendo games
Maybe as far as PC support goes, I'll give you that.
But if you're talking design and functionality you're actually retarded. I'm not the biggest fan of traditional twin stick controllers but Nintendo's is totally competent.

Of what's available stock I go for a PS3 pad when I need sticks, a fightstick when I play fighting games and a Saturn pad when it's 2D.

My ideal controller will likely never exist.

>>380991637
Not for months dude, it's just an option in your steam game list now.

>>380992951
the threads topic is specifically about whats best for using on pc, multi platform. nintendo doesnt do that. i forgot about the pro controller >>380992929 which is at least close

Analog sticks are literally the worst shit that have ever existed.
They were adopted because they were the first serviceable solution for 3D movement that came up and even then it took a massive industry push to drag critics into the future kicking and screaming about a completely and totally necessary change. It's the same way today with people holding onto analog sticks and traditional controls.

The flopping motion is terrible, every console game that has aiming in it needs so much aim assist out the ass to make it functional that you might as well not even be controlling the game, they cap out at a certain turn speed, the list of problems go on.
Analog sticks are the bottom of the barrel. They only perform better than virtual buttons on a touchscreen like on smartphones.

Even fucking circle pads with a good grip are better, the sliding motion is much closer to 1:1 whats happening in game whether your moving your character or sliding the reticle across the screen.
But trackpads are better, gyro is better, trackballs are better, Kid Icarus Uprising touchscreen aiming controls are better. We've come up with several significantly more accurate and more responsive solutions to replace the analog stick. The literal only reason that they haven't been adopted is because the autistic cannot easily cope with change and if one of the big three changes their controller they'll lose, but if they make it an optional controller you can buy it'll never gain traction or support.

>>380986583
>I only touched the launch model gamepads
The S controller is fucking neato, and fixed the bumpers. I'm also buying that Duke rerelease they teased after E3.

>>380993343
i wouldnt mind the Switch Pro Controller having a workaround for PC in the comming months, the more options the better, but i still feel the Steam Controller is the best option

>>380987940
>>380990227
as long as a ps3 controller.... 10-20hr range? I honestly never keep track of mine.

good thing about xbox controllers is that you have options. Batteries or recharge pack. If the pack loses its charge after 1000hrs if play you can replace it for like $25. Cant say the same for playstation controllers...

>>380993454
There is hope at least, The Switch Pro Controller has Gyro, so maybe the other 2 will fall in line.
i would be laughing my ass off if the PS5/XboneX have a new controller that integrates Trackpads and SonyPon1es and Xboners gobble it up.

>>380993608
the steam controller is a fix for a problem that didn't exist in the first place. its never going to replace the standard layout that ms/sony are following. theres a reason the hype dropped off a cliff after it came out; people got to use it

>>380992173
middle aged fag here.

I remember being in high school and actually wanting this controller cause I was ready for a new one instead of the old one I had been using for nealry 10yrs.

boy was I disappointed....

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>retards defending gyro

>>380986295
Yup, Xbone S to be specific for the better materials and Bluetooth

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>>380993849
>Does literally everything better than a traditional controller besides twin stick, a genre designed specifically around having two sticks, and fighting games, which you're playing with a fightstick if you take those seriously anyway.
>"Welp, no need for this!"

>>380987769
Why in the ever loving fuck would you even consider playing a FPS using anything but K&M on PC?

>>380993849
you got it wrong anon, people got to use it, but they didnt get used to it.
also see >>380993454

>>380987769
>controller
>fps
pick one

>>380990647
I got one of those adapters. Vibration wouldn't work, but the rest worked great.

>>380994074
sometimes you want to lay back on your couch and not do the "Virgin Sit" once in a while.
it's really confy and you can also shit on Consolecucks with it.

>>380993886
>There's bad gyro so it's all bad gyro
Lmao. Analog fossils grasping at straws.

>>380993880
i'm mad cause i can't find pics but the ps3 boomerang isn't even the first one, my cousin had some third party controller that was very close to the same design back on the ps1. it was awful to use but looked cool.

>>380994048
>thread is specifically about pc gaming
yes anon, op isn't looking for a dance pad because thats good for ddr. its about what controller works best with everything and sony/ms have had a pretty uniform setup going for a while which has been adopted by nearly everything outside of nintendo

>>380994074
So many retards on siege doing this.

>>380992431
It definitely is, it doesn't replace kbm for fps, it replaces controllers for fps

>>380994074
I like sitting in a beanbag chair like the lazy piece of trash I am. I use it for stuff like Deus Ex HR. I'm playing arena shooters online with it.

>>380993886
Gyro is great for minor aim adjustment, you use sticks/pads to do the main aiming and them really time wrist movements to fine-tune your aim since they're faster and more precise than your thumbs.

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>>380993886
>retards defend analog sticks.

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>>380994308
>Steam controller is a bad pick in a thread about controller good for PC gaming
>Here use this objectively inferior but familiar console product on your PC instead

>>380994334
To be fair, whenever you use a joystick on Siege, it automatically turns on autoaim and reduces recoil. Still detrimental but I can see what those people are trying to do.

>>380994497
its odd to use and requires setup. to be a better controller and become the default setup, you have to do something better than what already exists. the steam controller doesn't do that.

>>380994497
/thread

Only the in game overlay requires big picture anymore.

I love how steam switches my main monitor automatically to my TV even if I'm not using the steam controller though. It works so god damn much better than it did a year ago.

Like holy fuck I was so upset at a buying this on launch.

>>380994632
siege only has aim assist in terrorist hunt on normal. even on consoles there's no aim assist in any other mode or setting

>>380994494
But that looks like an excerpt of this steam controller video?
>>380992142

Just use a m+kb at that point.

>>380994740
>its odd to use and requires setup.
why the fuck are you even playing on PC then? EVERYTHING needs to be set up.
>you have to do something better than what already exists.
it goes way beyong doing something better DESU.

>>380994803
How did I drop my reply

Was meant to be for
>>380991637

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>>380994913
>The thread is about recommended Controllers for PC
>"lmao just use a KB/M instead!"
jesus you guys are fucking retarded.

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>>380988636
Actually the crazy ones are those on windows 7, from everyone I've talked to.

Level headed individual:
>oh a new windows version, and it's free!
>looks like they changed the ui a little. Guess it'll take a short time to get used to, just like every new OS
>oh, it seems like this spies on me more based on what people. Luckily, there's tons of information on how to disable all of it
>oh I don't want it to auto restart. Luckily, there's tons of information on the internet to disable it
>Yay, the latest version windows is now running perfectly for me.

Autistic weirdo:
>a new version of windows out, and it's free? This must be a Jewish conspiracy!
>they changed the ui from the one used 10 years ago? What the fuck, why would anyone ever do this!?
>it spies on me? That means it's impossible to disable since windows is completely unconfigurable! All these people that say they disable it are working with the CIA
>forced restarts?! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


>mfw reading /g/ sperge out about Windows 10

>>380994920
lol have you ever used a regular controller on pc? nothing requires setup.

it doesn't do anything better, or faster, or more conveniently.

>>380994740
>its odd to use
You didn't take the time to learn it and that will never be the controllers fault
>and requires setup
Nobody knows your controller preferences like yourself, with 5-15 minutes of work you can make a better control scheme for yourself than the devs could hope to.
Not to mention any game that has default controller support will require little to no setup. I played Bayonetta and Yooka Laylee without touching anything.
You really only need to spend a lot of time messing with configurations if you actually feel like doing that. And it's honestly part of the fun of the controller

>to be a better controller and become the default setup, you have to do something better than what already exists
This isn't how the real world works. It's objectively superior already, the steam controller will always perform better than traditional controls when compared head to head. Unfortunately results dont directly correlate to financial success because of the number of mouthbreathers out there who wont take 5 minutes to configure their controller to work to their exact preferences

>>380994494
one is a dev playing his own game, while the other is a nu-journo coming hot right off from a random Telltale game or Gone Homo sequel

also if you still have trouble playing with analog sticks you should probably go fall off a building

>>380994334
My buddy used controller for siege but it's because he was brought up on controllers and didn't play pc until like 2 years ago, so it is genuinely an anathema to him

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>>380995076
I thought these guys only make meme videos but their music is actually pretty damn good.

>>380995201
a lot of games dont have controller support doe, so you have to Download Xpadder or some shitty program like that, so in the end it is worse than a steam controller.

you can also use the controller as a KB/M for browsing your shit.

>>380995076

Because no sane person is going to use a trackpad and gyro to play FPS games on PC when they can just use the input that is better. And the games that are better played with controller, like console ports, work better with analogs. Steam controller are a third wheel that is outperformed by other inputs depending on the genre.

So what the fuck did they do to make the steam controller barely suck battery?

I took my near dead AAs out of my TV remote and the fucker lasted over a week. I put new AAs in a fucking 360 controller and it kills them like nothing. Did one fix that or is it similar?

And when I say week I mean playing at least 4 hours each day, occasionally up to 8 or 10 if its an off day.

>>380995452
group_inou is a godsend desu

>>380995418
>i've never used Gyro controllers in my entire life
i feel sad for ya anon.

>>380995284
i also didn't take the time to learn track ball mice because it was shit.

games know what preferences are default because its the same setup as on a console.

>This isn't how the real world works.
but it is and its why nearly every game follows the same controller setup, because thats how we got here. trying to prove to me the steam controller isn't shit won't change the overall market. the steam controller would have to not be shit for that to happen.

>itt idiots that dont realize you can tune the track pad to you personal needs and play shooters as good as controller

BF4 and Borderlands with friends mostly but still. I would compete just the same as my friends using a controller, and rarely if I could actually get in the zone score up with my kb+m friends.

I'm too stupid to figure out the gyro since I hate it always being on or off but I know it would easily improve fine aiming.

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Move aside plebs, best joystick coming through.

I heck of like the ds4

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>People think KB+M is objectively perfect
Mouse is perfect and it offsets how fucking terrible movement on a keyboard is, still coming out far on top of any controller. It's not perfect and could be made better and improved.

Once we can have mouse movment, the sheer button count of a keyboard, on top of range of movement and degrees of movement of a controller we will have the perfect control scheme.

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>>380995843
You can make the gyro activate only when your finger is on the right pad or while pressing a trigger/bumper.

one thing the SC does better than every other controller is the sheer amount of options it gives to the user, it's is literally THE PC Controller.
but you know how Consolecucks are.

>>380986154
>For PC gaming
XBOX 360/One controller
>For emulators and for games that supports UI mods so you can get rid of XBOX controllers
DS2, DS3 and DS4

Reason: DS have better analog placement but would be annoying to play with if all the prompts show the wrong buttons since PC gaming is so after that only a few games realize there's more than just Xbox controller players.

>>380995843
You can activate it with a button press, I usually but it on a backpaddle, but a lot of people bind it so having the finger on the trackpad activates it.

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>>380995762
>Analog controller sell well because they're good and SC sold bad because it's baad
Right and Minecraft and CoD are the best series in the history of video games you mouthbreather

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>>380995697
I did for that one Flower game, and anon, I would not want it in every controller-based game

people mostly just wanna have their arms relaxed when holding a controller, not go around flailing their arms with it left and right like a fucking idiot, like those people you always see playing games in TV shows or commercials

>>380996209
>no one cares about a random memecontroller only because its the 2nd coming of jesus and the market would flip over on itself if everyone discovered it

gabe, go to bed.

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>>380986154
>joystick
Pic related.

>gaypad
>PC
Kill yourself with your console garbage.

>>380989060
>Just run em through Steam

no thanks

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>>380996379
>Gyro is inherently bad even though one of the things nearly everyone does when they first start playing video games is move around the controller a bunch like it will help

Gyro isn't meant for 100% control over games you idiot. Stick/trackpad is for sweeping movements, gyro is for small adjustments. The combo blows traditional analog out of the water especially trackpad and gyro. But Stick/gyro is also great because sticks CANNOT do fine movements and the gyro really picks up the slack. Splatoon is the only shooter I've ever enjoyed on console as a direct result of the gyro controls.

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>>380986295
Bought one recently after reading all this "best controller for pc" bullshit.
It fucking sucks. Sticks slide out from under your fingertips and are awkward to hold on max tilt for more than a few seconds, top buttons are abysmal, it's impossible to press the d-pad for diagonal movement. Maybe it's good for cowadooty or something, I don't know, I don't play that trash.
Returned it after trying to play with it for a day, don't know what I'll get instead yet.

Post the "weapon to surpass metal gear" controller.

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>>380997193

>>380997193
you've obviously never used one

>>380986583
The bumpers have been fixed since the version with the headphone jack on the bottom

>>380996105
>>380996069
Thanks.

Its hard to overstate how configurable this fucker is. Everything from making a bumper change the entire layout for MMO style shit or actually being able to pay strategy games without a m+kb. Then shit like double taps and radial menus just make the possibilities fucking huge.

I just wish the joystick was up top, only gripe since I never was much into playstation as the other 2.

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>>380986154
ayy say no more senpai

>>380997463
I dont usually fuck with joystick on the bottom but there's no way they could fit the trackpad down on the bottom and keep the stick in a good spot up top

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>>380986929
If you aren't autistic enough for Steam Controller, then the DS4 is the best second choice, because it also has touchpads and gyros, and it is configurable on Steam just like the Steam Controller is

>>380997463
>>380997352
To add, the ergonomics need serious work, the bumpers and back paddles are WAY too stiff.

The triggers are pure sex though, love that dual function like the GC had.

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>>380997193
>faggot makes shit post about his shit opinion on a controller he's never used

>>380986929
Functionally it is great, but ergonomically it is awful

The bumpers, touchpad buttons, and grip buttons are really stiff like alarm clock buttons

If they made a second version with easier to reach bumpers, and 2 extra grip paddles (for 4 total) and maybe a d-pad swappable with left touchpad, it would be god tier

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Is this shit any good?

>>380997635
>The triggers are pure sex though, love that dual function like the GC had.
This
Makes me wonder why every controller doesnt have that shit, it makes both racefags and shooterfags happy

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>>380997698
>>380997379
>Buttblasted analog anuses

>>380997875
Even in racing games having the digital trigger button at the end of the analog range is great for nitrous or shifting buttons too to free up other buttons

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>>380997828
Wondering the same thing, I was about to post and ask.

Would be using it for emulators mostly.

>>380997193
>it's impossible to press the d-pad for diagonal movement
What? I can do it just fine

The Xbone d-pad is one of the best ever made, you can feel every direction press and release, while the DS4 dpad is mushy shit for fighting games

>>380988636
You don't need to update the OS, you can grab the driver from MS official driver site

>>380998096
>>380997828
Looks like a shitty knockoff of the Wii Classic Controller

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>>380997759
This guy gets it.

>>380997759
I hate this! Because the touchpad is so good for fps aiming I dont want to go back to using a regular gamepad

But fuck man those other issues still really annoy me

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>>380997463
>Its hard to overstate how configurable this fucker is.
This
>Wanted to play MGR
>Realized that no stick would make blade mode pretty difficult/impossible
>Mfw I made it so that the button that activates blade mode swaps my stick and camera pads inputs so I attack with the stick and move with the same camera pad still

>Playing Yooka Layee
>Way too fucking many button+button combos for moves
>Turn the two backpaddles into buttons for those moves by making it so pressing it the button crouches and then after like not even half a second does the other button goes off so it works as responsively as just doing it the normal way

>>380997828
>>380998096

believe it or not these controllers actually work on the switch too

http://bgr.com/2017/05/23/nintendo-switch-8bitdo-controller-support/

>>380998127
This d-pad is only good for menus with how clicky it is, it feels damn good there, but it's absolute shit for anything else

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>>380997828
>>380998096
What about this? it has great reviews on amazon

>>380998571
No way nigger, it is boss for fighting games, half circles and Guile/Vega super inputs are painless on it because of how I mentioned with being able to feel every direction being pressed and released

Being clicky is what makes it great

It is second only to the Sega Saturn dpad

>>380998238
Yes but the Wii pro controller wasn't bad, it just has shit PC support.

>>380998548
>Not having to buy 4 70 dollar controllers that aren't even anything special
And now I'm very interested in these controllers. I hope they are good

>>380998548
So I've read, but is the build quality good?

>>380997463
>>380996069

You can do literally all that shit configuration shit with ds4 and xbox controllers now too

See >>380997626

DS4 even lets you configure the gyro and touchpads exactly as if they were Steam Controller ones

>>380998819
>no back paddles or dual function triggers

We know.
Why is the one elite so expensive for how fragile the fucker is?

>>380997626
Is this real? Why the fuck did I never hear about this? Looks like a photoshop mockup

>>380998942
Its real, most any modern controller works now because the added ps4 support and generic x-input.

>tfw the game has button prompts settings

>>380998940
They don't click like the SC triggers do but you can still assign hard press/soft press to them in Steam

>>380986929
Awful, cheaply made buttons. Feels terrible to use

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>>380986930
How did you get it working? I fucked with mine for hours but almost no games recognized it, and the ones that did often had issues with the sticks or triggers.

>>380999069
It's really weird because the face buttons are just fine. Why the bumpers and grip buttons are so awful and clicky is beyond me

JoyCons.
>natively compatible with Windows, Linux, and Android
>don't have to have you hands together
>can play casual games one-handed

>>380999180
Pressing in the face things to be used as a dpad feels bad too.

>>380999393
>natively compatible with Windows
Only as directinput which 0 games these days support

>>380999393
>>380999137

>>380997626
When the fuck is Steam going to support the Switch Pro pad for its gyro and shit?

The DS4 dpad is awful, the Pro's is good right?

>>380995136
>he thinks he can actually disable the spying
lmao

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>>380998543
You can even do shit like touch menus to add way more functions that would ever fit on a controller in any normal way.

Is there any pc compatible controllers that have the octagonal-like joystick from the Wii nunchuck/classic/pro controllers?
I fucking loved how that thing felt

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>>380998819
>You can do literally all that shit configuration shit with ds4 and xbox controllers now too
>No trackpads
>Need to pay 150 for an xbox controller with any extra buttons
>no Sony option for extra buttons, their trackpad is the closest thing and really only function as a "move the mouse sitting in the screen off to the side" button because of it's terrible positioning (You wouldn't put anything square in the center of a controller besides start and select buttons, similar the trackpad can't realistically do anything other than menu functionalities)
You might be able to customize the Dualshock 4 and Xbone standard controllers but what are you actually going to accomplish by doing that?
You have no trackpads (like 90% of where the customization on the steam controller comes from), no backpaddles, no haptics, 2/3 have no gyro and I dont know if the DS4 can apply it's gyro to any PC game like the Steam controller, joystick sensitivity is still handled entirely gameside.
The most you could accomplish is reordering some of the buttons for the sake of saying that you did in online arguments. You gain nothing from access to those menu's on a DS4 or Xbone controller.

>>380999565
Bad news anon the Switch Pro dpad is also trash

No fucking idea why, they were nice on the previous Wii and Wii U controllers...

>>380999565
Give up and get a wii u pro and mayflash adapter.

Fucker lasts forever on one charge

>>380999659
Works for DS4 too

Which is great because the ds4 touchpad is awful to use as a mouse. Great for those menus though

>>380999783
>You have no trackpads
DS4 has one, which Steam splits in half into two.

>I dont know if the DS4 can apply it's gyro to any PC game like the Steam controller,
Works exactly like the Steam Controller one. If it's set to control the mouse, it controls any PC game.

>no backpaddles
Only real downfall, hope that becomes a standard for future controllers

>no haptics
This is only really important for the touchpads, which on DS4 are better off used for touch menus so it's not much of a drawback

>>380999952
I like the switch pro dpad

>>380999952
I honestly prefer the Wii u pro controller in every way, and it didn't cost $70.

>>380986929
The controller is fucking amazing but I gave up on it. It's just way too annoying setting everything up through Steam when I want to pull it out for anything else, and sometimes it's annoying even setting up for Steam.

I mean goddamn, I love how it feels and the functions are genius but fuck, I just want to plug in a controller and play my goddamn games without needing to fidget with a console UI on my fucking PC and advertise my off-Steam games to all my friends.

The DS4 is perfect except for the D-Pad. Why the fuck didn't they use the Vita's D-Pad? It was fucking godlike

>>380995545
Its steam powered

How would you make the perfect controller? Is it even possible?

Analog stick is best for 3D movement, DPad is best for 2D movement, some sort of buttons are a must, and Mouse is best for aiming/looking.

How do you combine all of those on one object?

>>381000317
Use a ds4 then nigga

You get all the config shit but by default on Steam it just emulates an xinput controller

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>>380999952
>70 dollar controller from Nintendo
>Identical to the WiiU pro controller except for a shittier non Nintendo DPAD, gyro, """HD Rumble"""" and an amiibo scanner, still no analog triggers
>WiiU controller is 20-30 dollars less
>Gyro is on the Steam and PS4 controllers for 50
>HD Rumble is at the very least on the controller for 50
If I'm paying 20 dollars for an amiibo scanner in every controller then why the absolute fuck do they have amiibo scanners in every controller?
The more likely answer of course is that Nintendo's new president is a massive jew who doesn't play video games.

Switch pro is a fucking shame because it'd be a GOAT tier controller with some proper PC support and a normal pricetag. More specifically the latter.

>>381000420
Take Steam controller

Replace left touchpad with analog stick
Replace original analog stick with dpad
Make the buttons less clicky
Make the shoulder buttons placed better
Add a second set of grip buttons

Perfect controller right there

>>381000317
Just add cmd and launch your games through that.
>in non-steam game: command prompt

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>>381000549
>Replacing a trackpad
Go fuck yourself.
Make the dpad and analog stick interchangeable. Fixes the issue and the steam controller doesn't have to sacrifice 50% of it's functionality to appeal to normies.

>>381000317
>and advertise my off-Steam games to all my friends
Do what everyone else does then and title your nonsteam games as Notepad or Explorer.exe

Or just set yourself as offline

>>381000761
That works I guess
I cant think of any game with a dpad as a main input that also requires the analog stick

Every game with analog stick as main input only use the dpad for weapon switching, which is fine on the touchpad

But for the former games, the touchpad is cancer, and the analog stick isnt great

For some things the dpad is an absolute necessity

>>380999137
"A deals a deal anon"

>>381000761
but trackpads aren't that good for movement, which is the primary use of the left position

unless there's other uses for second trackpad that i don't know about

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>>381000548
all we can do is wait for Mayflash to release an adapter like the wii u one, which adds even more to the price, or wait for JustinVKeys to fix it again like he did with WiiNuSoft

>>381000898
Most 2D games made today have decent stick support. You can finagle controlling dpad games on the SC but not using the DPAD. So I never recommend it to people

>>380998701
If I wanted a fg directional pad I'd use my PDP fightpad. Literally leagues above any multi use approximation

>>381000950
Its mostly useful for menus

Which really, they could do what DS4 does and put that up in the center

>>381000548
>>HD Rumble is at the very least on the Steam controller for 50*

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>>381000352
You sonofabitch

>>381001006
I would only use that for 6 face buttons, but for things like Tekken or King of Fighters I have 0 qualms with using the Xbone pad

>>381000996
Sure, they WORK, but they aren't great to use

Shit like N++ or Super Meat Boy feel like ass on a stick
Same goes for fighting games

>>380986154
what are some of the cheapest controllers I can use for PC vidya /v/? I gave away one of my wired 360 controllers to a buddy of mine and I'm only stuck to one now. Using ps3 controllers on PC is fucking aids

>>381001235
I'm almost positive meat boy was designed with using a stick in mind

>>380996069
>>380997463
I dislike that the configuration interface seems a bit buggy. It's often slow to update changes and when used in-game it frequently removes the ability to use mouse input.
Also no proper support for multiple mode shifts or combination button presses.
It could also have used 2 sets of grip buttons.

>>380997635
I definitely agree with this as well.

>>380993503
duke rerelease?

>>381001520
It's not analog movement, so that's bullshit

>>380997193
Why do people who talk shit about controllers always sound like they're experiencing a fucking holocaust trying to use them. I much prefer the design that xbox and nintendo use for their layouts, but I don't act like the dualshock is causing me physical pain to operate. You sound like you're mentally deficient.

How do the sticks even slide out from under your fingertips more than any other controller? How the fuck did you use something like a dreamcast or N64? Those were just hard bits of plastic with 0 grip.

>>380999573
>he's so bad at computers he can't figure out how to disable it
>he then says no one can

And we come to the crux of the issue. People who are incompetent with computers are finally showing their true colors.

>>381001597
>>380993503
There was a Duke rerelease months ago. Duke 3D World Tour? Is there another one already??

>>381001641
It's not? It's been years but I remember a lot of tiny adjustments in my movement, especially in the air that I didn't think would be possible with a dpad.

>>381001551
for me the only negative about the controller is the software its forced to use, Big Picture Mode is a fucking Buggy mess that Valve never focuses on fixing, but with the "Configure Steam Control Config on the get-go" it mostly tones down the negatives.

also maybe the steam controller 2.0 will have 2 set of grip buttons, but one can only dream

>>381001750
It's not

The characters just have relatively slow acceleration compared to other platformers which makes it feel like it is

If you move the analog stick a tiny amount, you still run at full speed

>>381001723
>he's so computer illiterate he didn't run Wireshark tests
You can't stop it.

>>380990607
Not that anon but this controller is garbage, get over it. It's for steamfags neckbeards, fuck off.

>>381001723
>disable service in win7
>load up wireshark
>verify service isn't sending data

>disable service on win10
>load up wireshark
>its still sending shit out

why go to such lengths to lie?
>https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

>>380986583
you mean the dpad

>>381001997
lmao

>>381002043
>Losing a trackpad
No. It's garbage. Make the dpad and stick interchangeable

>>380992351
x360ce solved this problem for me and in last case xpadder

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>>381001825
You can config controllers without big picture mode now (sorta)

It still uses the Big Picture interface but it just opens it in a window instead

But you dont have to use big picture at large to get to it at least

>>380992142
"I've used this thing since Christmas 2015 and I'm now better on SC than I am with mouse. I haven't even tried to play Doom with Mouse and Keyboard yet because I used the SC the whole way through."

ITS SO GOOD GUYSSSSSS

>>381002185
nigga why tf u need 2 trackpads

interchanging shit is just asking to break and a lot of games use both dpad and stick

>>381001997
There is one obviously paid Steam shill trying hard to push the controller when all anyone wants is the DS2-4, X360-X1. He isn't fooling anyone but he's still trying, 100 posts later.

>>381002185
No. Swappable shit is just asking for frequent hardware failures

Move the home and start/select button up or down, put the touchpad there like on ds4

>>381001825
>"Configure Steam Control Config on the get-go"
What?

I use a 8 year old 360 controller and a fighstick.


was thinking of getting a DS4 but no idea if worth

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>>381001998
>>381001985

>run le wireshark test

I have it open. Tell me what to filter for

>>381002529
i really dig it anon. the touch menus and gyro are fun to play around with.

steam lets you use them in any game

>>381002329
Actually theres two of us from what I saw.

And sadly I'm[ not a shill, I'm actually just a console gamer that enjoys doing it on PC lately. I currently have 4 different controllers hooked into my system to use depending on the game. some wireless, some usb adapters. I just want another alternative with back paddles thats not way too pricey.

>>380996001
Having a PS4 fightstick run through DS4Windows for any game that doesn't use right analog stick

>>381002590
I'm always impressed when I open Wireshark. What a great piece of software.

>>381002590
Microsoft's servers, which are hard coded in Win10, so you can't even block them via the hosts file.

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>>380986154
As long as you aren't poor

Word of warning to chink buyers:
I've tried the following:
-8BitDo NES30 Pro
-gamesir g3s
-phonejoy
-gen game s3

they all suck, in one department or another. Just stick with the giants. Don't fall for the chinks

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>>381002896
OK, tell me what to put in.

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>>381002265
>>381002358
>These tastes
If you aren't taking advantage of both trackpads you aren't using your Steam Controller well.
I have radial menus and quick menus with shit I dont want to have to go into the middle of the controller to use. I use it for my spells in dragon age origins, my towers in Dungeon Defenders are on a quick menu, a bunch of other games too but those are the first ones to come to mind
Every video game that has camera controls is going to use up a trackpad for that. You want to take one of the most versatile things that has ever been introduced to controllers and relegate it to only being used for camera controls forever. Your opinions are objectively shit.

If swappable shit doesn't work just ditch the dpad entirely. There's so few 2D games that are legitimately unplayable without a good dpad that I'd much rather lose them entirely over completely fucking the controller's functionality.

>>381002924
I prefer my analog sticks to not drift, thanks

>>381002924
>explodes if you drop it

No thanks

>>381002924
>build controller with considerably worse build quality than the standard version
>mark it up for several times the price
I wish I was so wise with business

>>381003029
>no d-pad
End your life.

>>381002924
>Triple the price of a Xbone controller
>4 new buttons and you can choose what dpad and stick you want
>Chunk of metal stuck inside of it to make it feel like it's ""luxury""
Making a bad investment is what poor people do. Any amount of money wasted is still money wasted. The Xbone elite is a waste of money

>>381003029
>>381002358 (You)
>These tastes
How does putting the touchpad in the center relegate it to camera controls forever?

In fact it encourages it to be used for touch menus since there would be a real movement control to its left

You don't handle critical thinking very well do you?

The touchpad is garbage for movement, end of story

DS3

been using it for 10 years on PC

>>381003127
>>381003214
>>381003242
>>381003359
Enjoy your clawgrip

>>381003280
Nice argument faggot. You can really tell that you're opinion is based in objectivity, and not emotional preferences at all

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>>380986929
>track pads

lets take everything shitty about gaming on mobile and put it into a controller for your PC

>>380986154
Is that a BNC connector?

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>>381003561
>Everyone look at me I've never touched a controller in my life and I'm arguing about it!

>>381003561
It's actually not that bad, they have really fancy haptics in it that make it feel like a trackball spinning when you move the mouse with it

The left touchpad is a bit of a waste for anything other than menus, but the right pad is great for aiming

>>381002973
>Microsoft's servers

I mentioned they are hard coded. You could start there. A quick search will turn up results how they bypass even the hosts file. Surely someone who knows better than the network analysts who document these things can figure it out.

>>380991937
Dude I agree except for the wii u gamepad weighing the same as regular controllers it's heavy as fuck unless I absolutely need it it stays docked.

>>380992929
You don't need an adapter it just uses a usb cable senpai

>>381003450
Enjoy your buyer's remorse.

>>381003378
>How does putting the touchpad in the center relegate it to camera controls forever?
Are you retarded?
>Center trackpad forever relagated to menus because of its position
>Right trackpad is camera controls in 90% of games while the left trackpad can do an eclectic mix of things including but not limited to becoming roughly 20 buttons
>Taking the most versatile control scheme and relegating it to two specific functions is a good idea
Ok yeah, now that I look at it you're definitely just retarded.

Who's even arguing the touchpad for movement? The touchpad is literally a different thing in every game I use it in.
If you think the left touchpad is useless then you aren't playing any keyboard only games with your steam controller faggot. I couldn't move my mouse and have my attacks set to a radial in FTL with your shitty mockup. I couldn't move the camera and use spells in Dragon Age Origins. I'd have to use the terrible controller menus for Dungeon Defenders instead of having all my buildings on one easy button.

Your idea is fucking retarded. The Steam controller isn't worth doing with half the trackpads

>>380996541
Warthog's pretty good. Great build quality. But not enough buttons, not adjustable, and doesn't have a twist axis for yaw (you're going to want pedals too).

Wish the X52 Pro was built better - with some mods it's great. But there's no perfect joystick out there. I guess the X56 is OK?

>>381004364
>Who's even arguing the touchpad for movement?
If it's not used for camera and radial menus then what else is there that makes it better than an analog stick and dpad?
>The Steam controller isn't worth doing with half the trackpads
How does moving the left trackpad to the center make it half the trackpads?
Seriously. Work on that critical thinking.

>>381003781
Either tell me what to put in wireshark right now, or be laughed at as a typical conspiracy theorist parrot who just shits on windows 10 because he heard other people shitting on it and can't form his own opinion.

>>381004645
Shit, moving it to the center and making it wide like the DS4 pad can make it function as TWO separate touchpads, resulting in a total of 3 pads for the whole controller, (right for camera, and the two center halves for separate menu functions)

It's a hard upgrade in every concievable way.

What's the best gamepad outside of the Big 4?

>>381004840
What are the big 4??

>>381004906
Sony, Nintendo, MS, Valve.

Is there a specific xbone controller I should look for for pc gayman?

I mean a specific model.


Is wireless any good?

>>381004840
>>381005049
Logitech F3__ has a fantastic d-pad, but the rest of the controller isn't very great

Amazon Fire gamepads aren't bad
Any Android bluetooth gamepad will work

>>381004760
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

mmmmmmmmm !

here comes the airplane!

>https://www.petri.com/windows-10-ignoring-hosts-file-specific-name-resolution

inb4 you literally can't scroll down to the list of servers

>>380988636
>hates on windows 10
>recommends a fucking ds4 without native support

You make yourself too obvious sonybro

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>>381005106
The Xbox One S version has bluetooth support, so you can go wireless with a $5 bluetooth dongle that will also support other shit like DS4s or headsets at the same time, instead of a $30 proprietary adapter

It also has overhauled bumpers compared to the old version

The S version (left) has the front faceplate covering the guide button area, while the old version (right) does not, that's how you can tell which one it is

>>381005341
Works out of the box through steam

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>>381004645
>>381004798
It can be any button I want it to be. It's a godsend for PC games with a ton of buttons like every fucking RPG ever.
I use it for non-menu things constantly.
You're basically saying "Just put the 4 face buttons where start and select are, you can totally use them the same there". Any anybody would rightly call you retarded for such a belief, it's the same thing with the trackpads. You cannot have buttons that do gameplay things in the dead center of the controller.
>Shit, moving it to the center and making it wide like the DS4 pad can make it function as TWO separate touchpads, resulting in a total of 3 pads for the whole controller
This is the level of intelligence of the people supporting your terrible mockup. Well just fucking shove 50 trackpads into the center and not it's objectively better than the original design, more is more amirite?

I'm sorry that your OC controller mockup is shit anon, but no amount of pretending that making something less readily accessed doesn't change anything about how it can be used will make it any less shit.

This is the last (you), I'm cutting you off

>>381005716
>"Just put the 4 face buttons where start and select are, you can totally use them the same there"
I'm not saying that, the 4 face buttons would stay where they are.

Unless you're implying you use the face buttons from the left touchpad, in which case you're an idiot for believing requiring you to move your thumb off movement controls to use facebuttons is a good idea

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>>381005193
Explain exactly what I put into wireshark. I put in microsoft.com and msdn.com IP addresses and they don't have any pakcets even going to those places.

>>381005850
The face buttons and the left touchpad in some games have identical uses. Buttons that control the fucking gameplay.
You are saying to take a button/trackpad that handles gameplay inputs and move it to the center of the controller.

A ton of Steam users and popular Steam Controller loadouts use the left trackpad for things it couldn't do in the center of the controller. Whether or not you personally do it with your controller does no matter.

>>381005389
k, so left is xbone s and right normal xbone?

I know I might sound like a retard for asking this. But always played on PC with mouse and kb.
Don't really know much about consoles.

>>381003505
So do you just not play platformers or what?

>>381006141
So you literally can't scroll down? I guess you're just as much of a retard as every other denier.

>>381007470
Yes I saw the list of hosts. Do you want me to go through the work of pinging each host, getting the IP, and creating the rule in wireshark?

Why don't you stop being so vague? Either put up or shut up.

>>380986154
Besides Dark Souls what games do you actually need a controller for?

>>381007334
2D ones I assume?
I mean yes, but not constantly or with any frequency.
90% of 2D platformers released in the modern age have perfectly competent stick support as well.

You're asking them to ruin the functionality of the controller that's about innovating by adding a control input from 30 years ago that most games don't really use in any meaningful way anymore and a tiny tiny tiny percentage of games that actually need.

Which controller has the best d-pad? My thumb starts hurting after playing on my Dualshock 2 after a few hours of playing. I was looking for a controller with a softer d-pad, akin to the PSP's

>>381008106
I'd also just like to point out that if you're a DPAD purist that none of the big 3's modern controllers have DPAD's worth a damn either.
At least the Steam Controller is doing something good where it used to be.

>>380991169
The xbone one, stop thinking the DS4 is the best just cuz a bunch of kiddos say it, anon.
Only shitty part of the bone controller is the D-pad.

>>381007645
Ace Combat 7 unless you have a flight stick

>>381007621
>which ones should I add
>these ones
>I don't want to add all of these
What exactly is vague? You add them all, disable all network functionality, and wait.

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I have this
its alright but they could at least include a fucking micro usb cable
i had to buy one separately

>>380996093
>DS have better analog placement
GTFO of here, nigger. Only a retard would think is better to have the d-pad on a place that forces your left thumb to stop moving, instead of using the right one to activate something or change weapons, etc. With the D-pad, while you still can move.

Does the steam controller have triggers for racing games?

>>381008927
>d-pad on a place that forces your left thumb to stop moving
You can only do this with xbone controller if you claw your hand which is retarded and hurts. Kinda confused at this argument.

>>380997437
They're still just as terrible as the 360 controller's

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>>381008720

Filter used:

ip.dst == 104.43.195.251 || ip.dst == 104.43.195.251 || ip.dst == 204.79.197.203 || ip.dst == 13.82.28.61 || ip.dst == 23.205.214.111 || ip.dst == 157.56.148.19 || ip.dst == 157.55.177.39 || ip.dst == 23.205.213.121 || ip.dst == 23.204.149.152 || ip.dst == 23.100.122.175 || ip.dst == 65.55.50.189 || ip.dst == 23.205.212.42 || ip.dst == 40.84.199.233 || ip.dst == 157.56.77.153

>>381009629
It's been ten minutes, anon. You didn't even read those articles, did you? Make sure you're monitoring every single one on that list and give it a few hours. The thread will be dead but that won't matter because you're just going to prove yourself wrong.

xbone is great, except that fucking white dust. You'll be changing the analogs twice a year.

>>380989539
xbone controller works without problems on 7.

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>>381009938
I've had wireshark recording the entire time.

>>381009938
kek its funny but true. windows update for instance only sends a few packets to check for updates every 12hrs or so. so unless you were monitoring it and knew when to check, you might miss it. he doesn't care though. he knows better than all the articles on it where people spend their time specifically analyzing these things.

>>381010005
>You'll be changing the analogs twice a year.
The major appeal of the 360 pad was that I bought it used over half a decade ago and it finally gave it out this year (Technically still going one of the analog sticks just cracked on the side somewhat).
So it's a good thing to know I have zero reason to get an xbone.

>>381010228
You only just now added all the servers though, so your previous recordings are worthless.

>>381010334
>he doesn't know how wireshark works
>he doesn't know what the word "filter" means

Typical conspiratard.

>>381010005
>xbone controller works without problems on 7.
Can confirm. Just need to install the drivers and then it's smooth sailing.

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>>381008927
When are you using two analogs?
When you play FPS

What are the main inputs your thumb use when playing FPS?
Camera and movement, thus both analogs

Therefore they should be placed correctly; Symmetrically.

Face buttons are secondary and so are D-Pad.

This is how you hold a controller since you seem to have learned it incorrectly.

>>381010437
So it's been one hour, like
>>381010287
said you have to wait at least 24.

>>380986295
Don't listen to the shitters. It all depends on your preference. I have big hands and this controller is great. I bought it and the wireless adapter together for maybe like $90 at microcenter. Its sturdy and makes satisfying clicks. I don't like the DS4 since its shoulder buttons are squishy but that's just me. In conclusion you could either get this or the DS4 because everything else sucks

>>381010449
360 is the same way

i love that most games now automatically switch between keyboard/mouse and controller. driving in gta5 is much better with a controller, but shooting is much better with kb/m. it just swaps between them automatically when you start using the other.

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>>381010545
>When are you using two analogs?
>When you play FPS
It's always so infuriating seeing how little /v/ understands about controllers and really games in general in these threads.

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>>381001734
he means the controller

>>381010287
>>381010609
Not a single article linked uses software and settings to block the stuff. Keep moving those goalposts though.

>>381010683
Not as infuriating as retards that can't hold a controller correctly.

Racing games on a controller: triggers for brake/throttle, steering and camera on analogs.
The only time you move your thumbs is when doing secondary things.