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>"Metro Exodus is an epic, story-driven first person shooter from 4A Games that blends deadly combat and stealth with exploration and survival horror in one of the most immersive game worlds ever created. Explore the Russian wilderness across vast, non-linear levels and follow a thrilling story-line that spans an entire year through spring, summer and autumn to the depths of nuclear winter. Inspired by the novels of Dmitry Glukhovsky, Metro Exodus continues Artyom’s story in the greatest Metro adventure yet"
>open world fags on suicide watch
Based 4A.
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Not open world. Bless the maker.
I love this thread. Open world faggots getting BTFOd every second.
>>379897505
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only game im looking forward to
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>MFW Open World Stalkerfags getting utterly destroyed
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>Not open world
YES!
I was so afraid, the trailer made it look like one.
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OH YES OH YES OH YES
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>>379928091
>>379902170
It's delicious.
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Kinda wanted to be an open world before realizing it wouldn't really work with metro.

glad it's not the case
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>map from Far Cry 2
>not open world

You're stupid. And tasteless. Open world is superior to linear in every way. Only reason more games don't do it is because it's harder to make.
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Open World tards btfo
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Looks like more of the same shit from the last two games.

But thankfully those games were some really good shit.
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I hope it's more fun than Last Light
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>>379928702
Stay mad.
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>>379928091
It's a delight to see it
>All those arrogant faggots going "muh stalker :D"
Metro is Metro. It's much better than your Stalker shit and a big part of it is precisely because it's not open world. Get fucked, faggots. Go enjoy your shitty Stalker MMO lmao.
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>>379928702
GET FUCKED, FAGGOT!
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>>379928851
This, if it aint broke and all that.
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>>379929198
>S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
>Open world
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Is it Windows 10 exclusive?
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>>379927709

The trailer was here.

https://www.google.ie/maps/place/Korsakovo,+Ivanovo+Oblast,+Russia,+155284/@57.3740886,39.7363129,5.58z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4152737b537a4dcd:0x898b22dd000a8366!8m2!3d56.9925492!4d42.5815694

On the Volga near Nizhny Novgorod.
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>>379930112
>Trusting Polygon's description over what's actually in the site
lmao
Get fucked, retard
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>>379929920
>A game where you wander around the open world and do whatever you want is not open world
top zozzle
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>/v/ is now trashing Stalker for being "open world"
What the fuck happened
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>>379930105
They said it was
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>>379930150
>Polygon
>Meanwhile, the game talks about being level based in the official fucking website
Open World tards are THIS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>379928702
Nice bait.
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Best game at E3 so far.
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>>379930150
>Polygon
I think I'll trust the official description by the developers over that kek
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>>379930112
>>379930150
>open world fags going full damage control
Jesus. Not even the article supports your claim. Hell your quote isn't even in the article.
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>>379930136
>on the Volga
>700 km far away
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The narrative is a journey across Russia by train to Vladivostok.

Each level will be "there is a thing blocking our progress. Debark and fix it."

Absolutely based.
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Let's hope it'll be better than last light
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>>379930689
What a unique story
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>>379930406
The first S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't open world (hub-based, learn the difference) and it's the only good one. The other two are complete trash precisely because they are open world.
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>>379930689
Is there anything Artyom can't do?
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>>379930791
>he doesn't want to go on a grand adventure
Absolutely pathetic.
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>>379930452
>the game talks about being level based in the official fucking website
>open, non linear levels
>like stalker
>literally open world except loading screens
Never thought I'd see fags argue for loading screens
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>>379930150
>https://www.polygon.com/e3/2017/6/11/15779330/metro-exodus-e3-2017-xbox-one-pc-4a-games
>This moment led to the biggest surprise of the new game: It appears to be at least somewhat an open-world game. Though well-liked, the previous Metro games were primarily extremely linear in their design.

Hurr its open world amirite
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>>379930838
not even a little bit right there
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>>379930689
>journey across Russia by train to Vladivostok
It takes a whole week IRL.
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>>379930105
>>379930442
its not, scroll down to the botom
http://www.metrothegame.com/en-gb
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>>379930838
>A game where you can wander around the open world, going anywhere and doing whatever you want isn't open world
really activates the atoms
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>all the retards on youtube think it is an Xbox exclusive
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>>379930910
You're simply wrong.

Think about it in the context of the game.

It's a train journey across Russia. Each level will be a part of that journey. You won't be going back and forward between levels.

It's a chain of swamp levels all stitched together, and it'll be fantastic.
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So does this mean that last light's good ending was the canon one?
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>>379927709
Large, non-linear missions with multiple paths to success and handcrafted scenery are a thousand times better than open world """""sandboxes"""""" with nothing special about them.

Compare: DA:O to DA:I, ME2 TO ME:A
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>>379930838
Call of Pripyat would have been good if it didn't got casualized to shit.
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>>379930991
That says nothing about the OS.
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Anyone remember when a 4A Games dev tried set up a huge Kickstarter scam, injected his own money into it to boost its popularity, and even went so far as to fake a letter of approval from Putin for it?
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>>379930773
It won't be unless they make the console versions afterthoughts.
>even the scripted gameplay looks like played with controller

Devs who hate FPS should not develop them.
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>>379930947
The game spans a year.

>>379931196
Based,
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>>379930568
are you brain damaged

who cares anyways, you retards are applauding the fact that it's going to be linear """""""""""""cinematic"""""""""""" trash that takes away control from the player to do awful first person cutscenes every 5 seconds like the last two
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>>379927709
This was the only thing that looked decent. I don't care if it's open world or not. Open world is a meme anyway
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>>379931267
Tell me more
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>>379929131
>>379929258
Sorry fags, everything is going open world now (including Metro) because open world is better and eveyone knows it except for a few autistic luddites. You're getting left behind just deal with it.
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>>379931196
Absolutely this. Fuck the open world meme.
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>>379931325
>i hated the last two games in this popular series
>WHY WON'T THE DEVS CATER TO ME
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Can you fags shut the fuck up about open-world already?

Metro is good.
Stalker is good.
Videogames are fun.
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>>379931267
You mean some guys who were hired by GSC to make a Stalker Flash game?
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>>379931232
give me one game on the steam store that is win 10 exclusive, even Quantum Break isn't
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>>379931196
Exactly. This is why we're all so happy.

We're basically gonna get a Metro game that is full of Swamp-quality levels.

To be fair, I'd like some actual Metro action as well, because I really liked the stations, but hell, this is so much better than if it went full open world.
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gimme the quick rundown on this series. Should I bother playing any of them on PC today? no meme answers
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>>379927709
Seriously, best thing to get revealed at their conference. Genuinely took me by surprise.
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>>379931335
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/07/23/areal-kickstarter-suspended-stalker-spirital-successor/

>>379931572
Is that all they were? I thought they had a hand in SHoC, christ
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>>379930838
>The first S.T.A.L.K.E.R. isn't open world (hub-based, learn the difference) and it's the only good one.
Except that it isn't good. It's a patchwork imitation of the original concept barely held together by shit and matchsticks.

CoP is the only game in the series that isn't an embarrassment and, what a surprise, it's open world.
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>>379931645
Yes.
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>>379931531
>Video games are fun
get the fuck outta here
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Open world isn't bad. It's just bad when it's done bad. Just like linear isn't bad, just bad when done bad. Ubisoft (now) does *bad* open world games, and activison does bad linear games. Metro doesn't lend itself in the past to open world but that dev team would appear competent enough that if they feel they want to go open world, I think they can pull it off.

My question is how is the 'survival' part of this game going to function out in the wilderness?
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never played metro before, original or redux?
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>>379931645
You definitely should
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>>379931834
which one
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Is this Windows 10 exclusive?
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>>379931660
Metro 2033 is worth playing. Last Light can be skipped.
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>>379931140
Well the first one's bad ending was the cannon ending. Must be a good way to balance it out.
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>>379930838
clear sky uses the same maps as shadow of chernobyl you braindead retard
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>>379931660
same fella, I knew there was a new metro game soon but didn't think it would be one of the first games to be shown at xbox
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>>379931645
They'll probably be on sale during the steam sale so wait until then.
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>>379931980
Original. Redux is pretty shit.
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>>379931781
Yes, they were some unrelated faggots that were supposed to make a shitty stalker browser game and called themselves "ex stalker devs".
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>>379932123
they're $5 right now
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Really tempted to preorder this.

I want to see actual gameplay though. I know my computer is not going to run this at max, could barely get it with Last Light.

Fuck me I love Metro games.
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>>379931980
From what I've heard original has a few /k/ autism stuff to it that redux doesn't. Personally I went with the redux because >muh graphical improvements
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>>379930406
They ran out of reasons to criticize botw, so now all open world games are bad
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>>379931531
wrong
right
wrong
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>>379931938
>Open world isn't bad
Wrong.

Open world is like communism in that it only works in theory. Open world games are always shallow, they always have terrible pacing, the level design is always bad, and the narrative always suffers.

What advantage do you fucking idiots think open worlds give? "Exploration" when the art team is stretched so thin there's nothing worth exploring?
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>>379931980
It's mostly up to personal tastes. In some cases the redux is worse in looks and atmosphere. However you benefit from the Last Light weapon system. I think the only major upside about the redux is the slight addition of new content here and there. Last Light redux is just the same game with the dlc added in.
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>>379932306
>Really tempted to preorder this.

Don't ever do this.
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>Metro vs. STALKER shitposting in this thread
>Not enjoying both
What the fuck? Where'd all this hostility come from? They're even made by many of the same developers.
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>>379932397
Dude, I fucking love when you have the entire content stretched out ten times longer than it needs to be and make it so that it takes much longer to find something worth a shit. MUH REALISM

>This is what open world faggots actually believe
Get fucked, mongoloids.
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>open world is bad
have you niggers never played stalker?
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>>379932540
Because STALKERfaggots demand that Metro turn into STALKER because their shit game is so bad nobody is willing to pony up the money for a sequel. So they get jealous and bitter.
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but didn't Artyom die in one of the endings in Metro last light?
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LIVE GAMEPLAY COMRADES

https://www.twitch.tv/twitch
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>>379930640

The area has been made smaller, and it's more like 30 kilometres. Sokolskoye is on the other side, and it's on the trailer map too.
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>>379932540
/v/ always need to complain about something.
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>>379932540
I was shitposting last thread because I thought they were gonna ruin Metro by turning it into Nu-Stalker with open world shit, but now I'm happy because it's gonna be Swamp-tier levels.
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>>379932540
salty stalkerfags as usual
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>>379932679
Not gameplay, same trailer they just showed.
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>>379932679
Cheers lad.
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>>379932665
stalker is not open world
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>>379927709
>not openworld
awww, I'm still hyped tho
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>played metro 2033 for like an hour and got bored, never touched it again
should i give it another shot
is it one of those games where "it gets good 20 hours in"
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>>379932397

Is Crysis bad? Cause that game is open world to a disturbing degree and done so in a competent way. Like wise Vice City, or Saints Row. Or Red Dead. There have been great open world games. I don't do JRPG's at all but my understanding is some have been open world and quite competently done. MMO's are open world and it's not that factor that caused great ones to turn to shit.

None of the ones I just name have bad pacing (I mean hell have you even played Red Dead?) or level design, or Narrative.
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>>379931645
Metro is Stalker but linear/story driven, less buggy and with better gunplay, the game has actual stealth and, at least thats how I felt, a bigger enphasis on the scarcity on resources, the story is good enough.

Metro also has a faster pace and much deadlyer creatures that will overwelm and overrun you if you can't keep up.

Play on rnager dificulty (not the maxed one with the hud turned off, you wont be able to play corectly on your first playtrough.)
>>379932068
>>379930991
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>>379932806
Their Twitter says there's some gameplay but they could be bullshitting, my bad
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4A Still hanging in there!

Metro LL was probably the best FPS I had played in at least a couple years.

And why are people attacking Stalker? Stalker is awesome too, just different games. We are all in this together.
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>>379932540
Some guy that has only played Ubisoft games got assblasted about the whole ""open world"" thing.
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>>379932540
What happened is that in the last thread, OP was afraid that the game was going open world and a lot of Stalker people came in and said "HAha, good, Metro should become just like Stalker"
Now we found out it's not actually the case and they're butthurt
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>>379932679
literally the same trailer shown at e3
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Serious question why do you fags enjoy muh singleplayer script railroaded story so much?

You play these games 1 time and then never again.

Just go read a fucking book if you enjoy stories so much.
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So.. did Artyum fuck that girl and have a kid? Didnt the good ending of LL imply that?
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and here i thought Metro community couldn't possible be this toxic
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>>379932894
There is still no info about the OS requirements nigga.
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Open world is horrible that's why GTAV sold 30 million copies and Breath of the Wild is the best Zelda ever.
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This shit sounds baller as fuck, it's the perfect next gen upgrade to the franchise
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Is Borderlands 1/2 considered open world? Because I suspect this will be similar in execution ('load' gates to allow vast distances between interesting areas without the connective tissue in between) .
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>>379933004
bad end showed a kid, i know that
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What the fuck was his problem?
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>>379932883
>crysis
>open world
Nigger you are dumb.

Crysis is clearly level based. You start at one end of the level and progress through it. The levels are huge and can be approached non-linearly occasionally but don't even pretend it's open-world.

>GTA, Saints Row, Red Dead
Three shit games.

>MMO
An entire genre of shit.
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>Deep Silver and 4A Games announced Metro Exodus for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC

Looks like everyone gets this geimu
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>>379933004
>imply
there's both a sex scene and the ending explicitly states that Hunter is Artyom's kid
speaking of which I wonder where that little rascal is
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>>379933194
communism
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>>379932960
Twitch got their facts wrong, apparently they assumed there'd be gameplay footage

In any case someone from Deep Silver is there discussing the game so worth a watch
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>>379932883
If you consider Crysis to be an open world game, then this Metro is what you'd call open world too. You're also gonna be progressing through a series of big levels. I'd call that more Hub-based than Open World, though. It's a series of big open levels that don't get ridiculous like actual open world games do.
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>>379928702
>harder to make
Omg youre so cute.
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>>379933194
commie
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>>379933097
Retard
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>>379932928
>they're butthurt
>they
Based on some of these responses, to say it's just one "side" is ridiculous.
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>>379933212
PC version going to be shit?
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>>379933252
getting bored of Artyem's beta ass, spin off in Piter with Taran when
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>>379933209
>Crysis is clearly level based. You start at one end of the level and progress through it. The levels are huge and can be approached non-linearly occasionally but don't even pretend it's open-world.
We're talking about the first part.
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>>379932905
>Stalker is awesome
It's not. It's criminally overrated and no better or varied than your average Far Cry. Less so, even - at least your average Far Cry doesn't consist of game-breaking bugs from start to finish.
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LARGE
SANDBOX
LEVELS
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>>379933429
didn't mean to quote
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>>379933097
>and here i thought nu-Stalker community couldn't possible be this toxic
FTFY. Additionally I'm just about certain that these open world fags who are defending stalker either haven't even played stalker or have only played CoP or SoC for less than 1 hour.
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>>379933498

you are underage and go kill yourself
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>>379927709
>open world
for what purpose
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>>379932928
>it's not actually the case
>vast, non-linear levels
The only people that are butthurt are the few fags that got triggered by the word "open world".
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>>379932873

Do you like Call of Duty?
If yes, it won't be for you. Too slow, too deliberate, and consequences for actions. I don't mean narrative, but gameplay; as in, I can use Gold ammo here to make this fight easier/safer/faster to not burn through tons of ammo/heals/filters but I won't have money later/gold ammo later if I need it, and you will need it.

Do you like the original Ghost Recon (not the abominations that followed) or the SWAT 4?
Then you will love Metro.
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Dev just confirmed in-depth weapon customization and large sandbox levels (with loads of goodies packed in), as answers to fan requests.
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>>379933756
Source?
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>>379931325
but linear shooters are better than open world
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Xbox Won
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>>379933364
>>379933624
case in point
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>>379933687
alright then
what difficulty do i start on
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>>379933461
>We're talking about the first part.
I know, I've played the game.

Those are very obviously levels with very clear progression routes. Big levels, but it's not open world.
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>>379933624
I like metro and modded stalker. Not really into why everyones fighting about them.
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>>379933209
>This game isn't good because I said so
>This game isn't open world because I said so
>see, there's no good open world games and the concept is shit
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>>379928702
>being this retarded
>being this obvious bait
praise kek, stay mad you double nigger.
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>>379932978

I guess its the difference between buying a game for quality, and buying a game for quantity.

Whats funny is all you useless normy faggots want every game to be open world, then complain that ever open world game is the same shit, with the same shit quests, and same shit story.

Linearity allows more fine-tuning of each aspect of the game, because they know where the player will be and what they will be able to have at any given point.
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>>379933960
What is "open world" then?
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>>379933812
He said it in the twitch stream less than 5 minutes ago. If you think the game isn't going to have large sandbox maps then you are wrong.
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>>379933645
A game can be big and have vast levels and not be Open World.
Is Deus Ex Open World? Is Crysis Open World?
If your answer to that is "Yes", then fine, the new Metro is Open World, but that's not what the people crying about it define it as. Open world is shit like Call of Pripyat, Breath of the Wild, The Elder Scrolls series, Far Cry 2 through 5, etc.
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>>379933812
Was literally just said on the Twitch stream I linked above. It's over now so you'll hafta wait for an upload
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>>379933942
>acts like a retard
>get called a retard
>oh wow so toxic
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>>379932873
It's pretty boring until Khan appears, then it gets really good.
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>>379927709
What the fuck? I thought the outside world in Metro universe was deadly as fuck so people kept to the actualy metro?

And how the fuck is Artyom still alive?
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>>379934079
Yeah, but they're levels like Crysis (or like the Swamp in Metro: Last Light), it's not an open world.
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>>379933209

Why do I get the feeling the only games you like are 2D platformers released 30+ years ago and tend to use the world 'exclusive' without any sense of irony or self deprecation?
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>>379934101
But then STALKER isn't necessarily Open World either. So what the fuck is everyone calling each other butthurt about?
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>>379933985
GTA and Saints Row are unequivocally bad. Red Dead is meh at best - the gameplay and story are ruined by the incredibly poor flow caused by having to ride across the entire fucking map to actually continue playing the game.

Crysis is not open world because it's not fucking open world. Open world does not mean "big level." It means that there are no levels. Crysis very obviously has levels complete with progression routes through the levels to the next level.
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>>379933498
>no better or varied than your average Far Cry

Its a totally different type of game.

And I didnt have any game-breaking bugs, but Im not a computer illiterate retard so I was able to throw on a simple patch.
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>>379933194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZUQ7aqKtXY
>tfw when you thin the 4th Reich is the evil faction, but the Commies turn out to be the faction that goes to war with the entire Metro and the Nazis help you fight them
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>>379934348
I was afraid that the new Metro was gonna be open world. And by open world, I mean by definition of open world, which is trash.
That's about it.
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>>379934079
missed the stream of it, anywhere I can rewatch it?
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>>379934278
You can calm down now with your open world autism. It's still going to have a linear story for you.
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>>379934416
>GTA and Saints Row are unequivocally bad. Red Dead
HAHAHAHA
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>>379934561
Well that makes enough sense to me, but I think the rest of this thread didn't get that memo.
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>>379934416

Yeah... I got nothing more to say to this guy. He's clearly an idiot.
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>>379934586
Good. Metro is saved.
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>>379934053
>Linearity allows more fine-tuning of each aspect of the game, because they know where the player will be and what they will be able to have at any given point.

Sure but like I said you play it 1 time and then you know everything that is going to happen.

Good open world games at least have the rng factor where no 2 playthroughs are the same.

This is why I play S.T.A.L.K.E.R to this day but haven't played the Metro games in ages.
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>all these people who think that a less railroaded metro is literally satan
What the fuck lads

>>379934101
>Call of Pripyat
>open world
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>>379934214
>acts like a retard
basically you
>waaaaah muh opin wurld xddd
>waaaaah muh linear gaymeplay

you're here to discuss the new game, you're just here to shitpost
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A little off topic, but is there a good place to get a synopsis of E3?

I dont want to watch all the bullshit these companies put out, I just want a list of whats coming out, when, and who its made by. Ill do the rest of the research myself.
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>>379934585
Doesn't twitch let you roll back videos or is that only once done?
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>>379934416
>games I don't like are bad
>games I like are good
Just stop
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>>379934063
A game where levels are sectioned-off parts of a bigger map and must fit contiguously into that bigger map as small portions of a whole traversable world.

As opposed to a game where levels are spatially disconnected and self-contained.
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>>379934585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ4GpE3c97U
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>>379934819
*not
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>>379934808
>>Call of Pripyat
>>open world
Yeah i wonder why those 3 big ass maps are for
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>>379934443
>Its a totally different type of game.
Yes, one's a pale imitation of the mountain GSG originally promised and the other is a feature-complete video game.
>Im not a computer illiterate retard so I was able to throw on a simple patch.
Ah yes, the "patches/mods will fix it" mantra, because that excuses shipping a broken product, then doubling down and fucking up even worse with Clear Sky.
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>>379934819
unironically using the word toxic is the sure sign of retardation, this is the last reply you'll get retard
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>>379934313
Because you have a pathological need to ascribe qualities you dislike to people you dislike regardless of whether there is any evidence to support assuming that those people possess those qualities so that you can justify your dislike on a deeper, personal level instead of having to say "well, clearly this person just has a different opinion but I guess that's not a crime."

You fucking moron.
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>That faggot last thread saying that Fallout 1 and 2, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, the Deus Ex series and Diablo were open world games
Do people even know what "open world" means?
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>>379934958
So you're telling me Dark Souls 1 is an Open World game.
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>>379935007
They are "vast, non-linear levels".
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>>379934827
there's usually too many games for a list to do much, but ign does one
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wait wait wait hold up Artyom's still alive?
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>>379931980
I played both, liked Redux more but people claim Original was better. It was fine so go ahead and play it.
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>>379934739
>>379934649
>this is the face of nu-/v/
Yeah, GTAV sure benefited from the top 75% of the map that went COMPLETELY FUCKING UNUSED.

A TRIUMPH of open-world gaming. I definitely want garbage like that ruining my new Metro game!
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>>379934850
I have no idea fella, I haven't been on twitch in a while
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>>379930136
wonder why they are going east, i first thought we were going to St.Petersburg.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRK-7Q4SUOw

how bad is the AI going to be?
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>>379935174
>If it's not made entirely out of corridors, it's an open world
Next thing you'll know, System Shock and Bioshock are Open World too
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>Random commieshit for no reason and gratuitous Russian

All they need is Grazhdanskaya Oborona and tracksuit jokes and they have the braindead slavaboo audience.
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For a second I thought it was Stalker
Im so fucking sad
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>>379927709
>story-driven

there's that buzzword again
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>>379935146
>this is the last reply you'll get retard
yeah i'm sure of that because you're too braindead to come up with an actual counter argument
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>>379935007
for going around in the open world, you idiot. I bet you're the same idiot from earlier that thinks skyrim isn't open world because it has loading screens.
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Who else here got excited as fuck when he took the gas mask off AFTER leaving the metro?
Anyway since there's only like a 10% chance we'll see stalker 2 I'm pretty hype for metro going semi open world
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>>379935243
He's an unstoppable machine of mass destruction. What did you expect?
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>>379935184
I don't know, I've never played it and know nothing about it.
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>>379935316
>GTAV is the only example of an open world game

This board is for 18 and older.
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>>379935243
Why wouldn't he?
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>>379935184
metroidvania style, but yes
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>>379935089
Why are you even here? Go enjoy your new corridor shooters or play some cowadooty with the dorito pope, you clearly just want to be told what to do all the time and have no choices anyways.
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>>379935409
>for going around in the open world
That was my point you illiterate retard
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>>379935540
he literally blow himself up
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>>379935531
GTAV was specifically brought up as an example of a good open world game by people arguing that open worlds were good.

You fucking spastic.

If you don't want to look retarded don't make retarded arguments.
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where can I download true HD quality trailer? trailer was fucking amazing
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>>379927709
This and the new Ori made me hype.
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>>379935384
Did you miss Vladimirsky Central in the first game?
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>>379935603
that's bad end
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>>379935565
Thanks for the (you), you idiot.
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>>379935603
Not in the other ending
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>>379935603
The bad ending isn't canon this time anon.
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>>379935356
The AI is supposed to simulate Russians in their natural habitat. If they change it it would lose the immersion. I want to at least keep one realistic aspect to it.
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>>379935603
bad end only friend
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>>379935731
>sacrificing climax
>bad
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>>379935657
You are a child cherry picking. Enjoy your large sandbox levels with corridors inbetween.
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>>379935603
>nigga got the bad ending
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>>379932873
I played metro redux bundle last summer went in blind and played with the hardest difficulty (ranger hardcore?) was pretty good and spooky
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one of the few highlights of e3 so far
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metro redux games worth it?
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>vast, non-linear levels

So.
Stalker?
Stalker allowed you free movement but it was far more like levels linked like an open world than truly open world.
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>>379935862
fuck redux
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>>379935559
The more I think about it (especially in the scenario where DaS 1 is Open World) the more "Open World" just seems like a really stupid and arbitrary game type / genre.
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>>379935814
"name some good open world games"
>GTA, Saints Row, Red Dead
"GTA is shit, saints row is shit, red dead is meh"
>GTA ISN'T SHIT
"yes it is look at how they didn't use 75% of the map"
>STOP CHERRYPICKING REEEEEE
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>>379935808

It's bad in the sense that you didn't actually perform the prerequisite shit in order to unlock the secret ending, which is classified as the good ending.
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>linearfags mad that every single one of their favorite linear series is going open world and they're geting cucked out
MGS
Zelda
Metro
Ghost Recon
Final Fantasy
Mirrors Edge
Far Cry
Forza
Witcher
Batman
Splinter Cell (soon)

how does it feel to get taken over and lose every time
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>>379935898
Probably something like STALKER arranged along a train track. I figure the train we saw in the trailer is gonna be the HQ which would be neat as fuck.
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>>379935387
I on the other hand knew immediately it was Metro. It was the snow, anon.
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>>379935562
>Go enjoy your new corridor shooters or play some cowadooty with the dorito pope
You sure you got the right post, bud? Because if it is so, I'm left scratching my head here as to how you even arrived at this textbook example of a strawman.
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>>379935898
No, not like STALKER at all.

STALKER was an open world with loading screens. This will be more like Deus Ex: HR. You get a big level with multiple paths, complete it, and then do the next level.
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>>379934416
>GTA and Saints Row are unequivocally bad
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>>379935387
>>379936120
Well it was a pretty easy tell when they mentioned "4A Games".
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>>379935898
Exactly
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>>379935387
If you know anything about Metro it's pretty obvious that it was Metro.

The gasmask, the gun, the snow, the look of the city were all pretty dead ringers.
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>>379935160

I like 2D platformers. I also like Saints Row (2 and 3), and Pokemon. And Ghost Recon, and Call of Duty, and Metro, and Rouge Squadron, and Mario 64, and Assassin's Creed, and many many others. And I don't think any of them are a bad games just because they don't ascribe to a pre-perscribed set of standards and requirements, or has to be put into a specific set content requirements and be described exactly as one genre or another. Baring early access stuff, my experience is *most* games are are pretty good, if you can get over yourself and suspend disbelief a bit. *YOU* have to get into it.

Well made is well made, doesn't matter what it is. I'll eat a well made Cheese Burger with the same gusto as well made Steak Tar-Tar. There *have* been plenty of well made open world games.

My own qualm with Metro going open world or semi-open world or hub world or whatever is that part of the story, iconography, themes, concepts, isolationism, all are informed by the setting of tunnels. I don't see how going on the surface, even if it *was* totally linear, for the whole game, will still feel like a Metro game. I don't think it will be bad, but I am curious how they make a Metro game feel like a Metro game not in the tunnels and the surface a rare, harsh, dangerous excursion to be avoided unless forced.
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Do you grab the ammo within the hole?
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Who here took a moment to go listen and appreciate In The House, In a Heartbeat after the Metro trailer so blatantly copied it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2H8FWDvEA
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>>379927709
Great :) We get to kill more trump nazis :)
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>>379936064
>MGS went open world
>Zelda went open world
>Final Fantasy went open world
>Witcher went open world
>Batman went open world
Fuck the open world meme
Anyways, I'm glad Metro isn't falling for the same shit
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>>379935898
NO. OPEN WORLD GAMES ARE SHIT YOU FUCKING NIGGER. GO FUCK YOURSELF STALKERFAG AND TAKE YOUR SHITTY OVERRATED GARBAGE WITH YOU. METRO IS ALL ABOUT CAREFULLY CRAFTED CINEMA CALIBRE STORY. THIS IS NOTHING LIKE STALKER.
NIGGER.
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>>379928215
XXXDDD!!!
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>>379936278
>first played that part of the game at 3AM
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>>379928215
STALKER wasn't "open world". It was divided between levels that were open. Open world denotes having one large map with smaller off map areas. STALKER was all levels. Except CoP.
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>>379936274
>Well made is well made, doesn't matter what it is
Open worlds always sap energy that could have been better used elsewhere for pathetic returns. They are the textbook example of not-fucking-worth-it.
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>>379936398
The gunplay in metro fuckin sucks
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>>379931645
No, it's just Stalker with better graphics and no freedom, just linear shooting gallery levels. I got about 80% through the first game and was honestly too bored to continue. The mosters are boring, the world is boring, the human enemies are neo Nazis and neo communists, lol. Yeah, the devs had that little imagination. There are three mutant enemies: dog-mutant, bat-mutant, and ape-mutant.
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>>379936278
How can I resist more shotgun ammo with all the librarians around?
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>>379936393
>trump
>nazis
What? Are you shitposting again? Here's your (you)
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>>379936397
le open world is le bad

do you le leddit often? or just le now?
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>>379936398
>autism strikes
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>>379936278
It's free golden boolits, Artyom.
Come pick 'em up, they're free!
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>>379935862
Depends on their price. Metro 2033 is better in some places and redux in others. There are toned down effects in redux compared to the original. Volumetrics being one of the biggest.
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>>379936338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00PdHIPjaWQ

I really enjoyed the use of portishead for the last light trailer
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>>379936495
okay
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Why are slavs so good at making games?
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>>379935316
>Yeah, GTAV sure benefited from the top 75% of the map that went COMPLETELY FUCKING UNUSED.
Okay, let's fill every inch of the map with content. We arrive at Fallout 3/4's retarded theme park of a map meant for ADHD-sufferers who can't go a minute without something dangled in front of their eyes or your typical Ubishit with pointless grind everywhere. Obviously, you'll complain about too, so what the fuck do you want?
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>>379936661
No good game, no eat.
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>>379931980
/v/ has aspergers that bitch about redux all the time just for muh contrarian opinion
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>>379936595
Open world IS bad.

None of the games listed benefited from being open world at all. They suffered.

Didn't anyone learn anything from MGSV?
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>>379936465
Agreed. That's why the first S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is the only one I liked. It's not actually open world, despite the fact you have some people who claim otherwise.
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>comfy train headquarters
yes
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As far I looked the trailer it looked like open world, but honestly I don't give a shit about it. I just want the game to be good whatever is done to it must end well.
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>>379936624
>one eye on the train tracks
>the other on the pipes
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>>379936338
>so blatantly copied it
They literally credit it in the trailer description
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>>379936495
yeah senpai xD sucks so much lol! do you also prefer the gunplay in overwatch ? epic win!
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>>379936219
>You get a big level with multiple paths, complete it, and then do the next level.
Add some backtracking and it's literally stalker.
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>>379936732
retard
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What's the best version? Redux or the normal one?

I heard 2033 Redux is shit, but i'm asking for Last Light.
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>>379936624
Ulman my man you should get that lazy eye checked
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>>379934245
>Tfw Khan will probably not reappear in Exodus
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>>379936746
I liked all of them for different reasons. Admittedly CS because of mods and mods alone.

When we're not getting another STALKER game ever you have to start appreciating things for how they are
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>>379928451
How? It had a little town surrounded by natural "walls" (canyon) and a bridge leading to another section. If it looked open-world then that's just good design doing its job fooling the player.
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>>379936661
They aren't any better than anyone else. You just don't hear about the garbage games they make because they never make it out of the exUSSR. And they made plenty of garbage.
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>>379936595
MGS V suffered from going open world and sucked
Breath of the Wild suffered from going open world and sucked
Final Fantasy XV suffered from going open world and sucked
Witcher 3 suffered from going open world and sucked
Batman: Arkham City suffered from going open world and sucked

Open world has ruined plenty of series and I'm glad Metro won't be one of them
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>>379936664
>so what the fuck do you want?
TO NOT HAVE AN OPEN WORLD

YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

To not have to choose between a content-free 10 minute hike between objectives while bored out of my skull, or a themepark-riddled piece of garbage like Fallout. To not have the pacing of the game suffer to appease people who don't even like the game and won't even play it.
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Metro has some of the best atmosphere I ever had the joy of experiencing

>That one haunted room near the tracks in Last Light
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>>379930904
Soooo... when TLOU does it, it's a movie, walking sim. When Metro does it, it's alright?
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>>379936624
Those guys really needed a redesign
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>>379936609
>>379936434
>>379936578
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>you can customize and upgrade your train
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>>379936886
>2033 Redux
Wasn't it just a remastered version? Why does it get so much hate?
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Why was Last Light so shit?
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>>379936739
No because Zelda fans won't settle for anything other than a 9.5/10 so they have to hype their open world game to be just that and then all the other developers want those sweet sales and ratings but are never going to get it because their fan bases aren't as retarded as Zeldas.
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>>379936661
200€ avg wage, so devs 5 to 10 times cheaper than the west, yet game price is still 60.
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>>379936240
Well... There was always a small chance 4A got the rights to STALKER. It is the same engine after all...
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>>379936960
>all adventure games are now movies
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>>379936791
>no turrets or MG emplacements on the train

Tha fuck
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>>379936664
Laughing my fucking ass off
Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 don't have enough content , but it's apparently too much for you?
>But muh realism
Open world fags like you are the worst.
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I hope this wont be the witcher 3 of the metro series.
by that I mean an open world game with a larger scope than the previous 2 that brings the game to center of attention and makes it impossible to make a thread about it without endless shitposting.
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>>379937013
because 2033 was a good game that didn't need a remaster, the redux actually dumbed it down and made it look worse so that console dudes could play it
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>>379927709
I'll be playing better stuff sorry
http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-misery/news/misery-22-progress-report
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>>379934561
>And by open world, I mean by my definition of open world, which is trash.
FTFY

>>379935196
>>379935898
Yes they are, but the one's in M:E are going to be a "go through them once and that's it" sort of deal, not something where you can roam around at your leisure and go back and forth between

>>379936465
>the levels are divided so it's not open world
>it's only open word if it's one big square you can explore with no off limit areas
You can roam around freely from one place to another at any given point in the game, the world is open for you to explore. It's perhaps more linear than say Far Cry 3 onwards, but open world nonetheless

>>379928215
You can stop samefagging this, you're only making yourself look bad

>>379936929
>MGS V suffered from going open world and sucked
Konami screwed over Kojima and didn't give him nearly enough time or budget for a game the scale he wanted to create.
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>>379936804
He was obviously talking in comparison to STALKER you sperg.
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>>379937010
ARE THEY ANNOUNCING THIS OR IS IT JUST YOUR HOPES
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>>379937002
AAAAAAAAAA
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>>379937215
But the original was on consoles too anon
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>>379934796

Every time you read a book you know what will happen the second time. Every time you watch a movie you know what will happen next time. People re-read books and re-watch movies and shows constantly.

It has nothing to do with "knowing what will happen" and has everything to do with how good the product is. Who hasnt played Super Mario World like 50 times in their life? Most people will still sit down and play it again.

>Good open world games at least have the rng factor where no 2 playthroughs are the same.

And? Who gives a shit if its different if its shallow trash? Almost all open world games are just the same quests recycled several hundred times. The only one that really did it very well was the witcher 3. And as much as I love that game, a lot of that was pretty samey too. And its all pretty much the same to second time too, unless you stumble on something you simply missed before. Its not RNG.

And STALKER is pretty simple as far as open world goes. Mind you, I love this series, enough that of the two tattoos I have one is from CoP. But its pretty fucking linear. The areas are small. In fact, thats why STALKER is so good. It was small enough they could still make the content they had interesting rather than tedious.

The Metro games are just a different experience. There is zero need for them to be open world. More often than not it dillutes the game so much it becomes tiresome to do anything.
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>>379927709
>>"Metro Exodus is an epic, story-driven first person shooter from 4A Games that blends deadly combat and stealth with exploration and survival horror in one of the most immersive game worlds ever created. Explore the Russian wilderness across vast, non-linear levels and follow a thrilling story-line that spans an entire year through spring, summer and autumn to the depths of nuclear winter. Inspired by the novels of Dmitry Glukhovsky, Metro Exodus continues Artyom’s story in the greatest Metro adventure yet"
>>open world fags on suicide watch

inb4 broken mouse acceleration for the 3rd time again
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>>379937027
Last Light was great. what are you talking about? It was also hard as hell sneaking passed the Reich in that one mission.
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>>379937027
Last Light had a really terrible ending with a series of real bad levels but it had some great levels too (Venice, Swamp)
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>>379937027
I liked Last Light's gunplay a lot
>Running around with an RPK, a valve, and a .50 machine gun converted into a shotgun machine gun
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>>379937172
A linear version of FO3/4 would have a fraction of the content that it has now, yet you would like that simply because it's not open world and you don't have to run to other places, right anon?
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>>379936815
>Add some backtracking and it's literally stalker
No it isn't. Stalker's levels take place in small sections of the larger maps.

That's the point.

In an open world game the level is just a part of the map and the game suffers because the level has to fit the map so level design is compromised and the player has to hike there so pacing is compromised and the game is never dynamic enough to actually respond to the player's actions in the open world so narrative is compromised.

The level should comprise the whole map. Big levels with tons of potential routes and lots of content may need big maps but there shouldn't really be more than a single level taking place on a single map.
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>>379937215
What was dumbed down? I didn't see much wrong with it.
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>>379937093
>4A Engine
>X-Ray Engine
Why would they use a single threaded engine from 2004 for the new Metro after using 4A for 2033 and LL
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>>379937215
>dumbed it down
>made it look worse
Nigga what?
>>
It's like this: open world can be done poorly, and often is. It's hard to get it right, to have enough fun stuff to do instead of just walking to the next place to collect some shit. But when open world IS done right, it's better than any linear game.
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>>379930838
If you ever needed evidence that /v/ is full of retards that talk about games they never played, look no further than this post.
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Eбaл я вac вceх в poт.
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Bourbon did nothing wrong.
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I played 2033 and then Last Light Redux

I loved 2033. I didn't like LL: Redux nearly as much but I don't know if it's because of changes made by Redux or if I just disliked Last Light. What was the difference between the two?
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>game showed linearity in the trailer
That sent up some red flags.
>Dev reveals levels will be open ended and allow for different approaches
Honestly it sounds like the best of both worlds. On one hand you get tight and focused levels while getting the freedom to approach them how you wish.
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>not wanting an open-world game about scavenging a barren nuclear winter
>avoiding radioactive patches
>seeking shelter from blizzards
>having to make sure you air filter is clean

Why does /v/ prefer casual shooting gallery Call of Duty: Apocalypse Warfare?
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>>379937351
not on this generations
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>>379937027
wops xD last light was shit amirite??

Better get back to fallout 4 and own some noobs amirite senpai XD!
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>>379936960
Yes.

Because Metro actually does it well.
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>>379934265
>Metro Exodus continues Artyom’s story in the greatest Metro adventure yet
I came here to post EXACTLY this.

Still, that game looked fucking great, although the high-tech crossbow was kinda a downer.
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>>379937286
>You can roam around freely from one place to another at any given point in the game, the world is open for you to explore. It's perhaps more linear than say Far Cry 3 onwards, but open world nonetheless
>you can go forwards or backwards
>you can even go up or down!
Look, it's an open world game!
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>>379937172
>Laughing my fucking ass off
No you're not
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So is like the first Stalker. Just big open spaces.
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>>379937659
yes he is
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>>379933194
Filthy commie
Shame I had to spare him for the best ending because the Dark One is too young to understand necessary evils.
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>>379937489
Not true. All the best games are linear.
>Inb4 he's a Morrowind fag
Morrowind is trash. All of Elder Scrolls is trash. RDR is trash. GTA is trash.
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>>379937093
Well, maybe. But GSC Game World opened back up remember? I'm thinking they've got STALKER 2 on the backburner.
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>>379937376
>Last Light was great
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>>379937375
Change sens_border to 2 in user.cfg boom problem solved
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>>379937595
>le epik projecting argument
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>>379930136
>trailer was here
I don't wanna be that guy
but post source
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>>379937208
I hope it's as much fun as the Witcher 3
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>>379934265
There's bits and bobs in the lore of people living on the surface. If anything the games made the surface way more lethal. In the 2034 book there's one station exposed to the surface that has to fend off mutants almost every night for example.
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>>379937675
its like metro, just with big open spaces.


did you even watch the trailer?
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>>379927709
>continues Artyoms story

But Artyom died at the end of last light? Wut.
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>>379937573
You have shit taste and I'm glad 4A didn't decide to stoop down to your level and cater to faggots like you
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>>379936941
Boy, I can't wait for another corridor shooter that has the gall to call itself "non-linear" by letting you go climb into a vent or pick out of two doors leading into the same room once in a blue moon.

Sounds retarded and nothing like a good game, right? That's called thinking in extremes, and that's what you just did.
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>>379937889
Bad ending isn't canon.
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>>379937489
No, wrong.

For starters, the best games are all linear. Maybe there's a reason to that? Maybe linear structure has specific advantages in terms of pacing, level design, and narrative?

Nah, let's keep chasing the white elephant of the "perfect' open world game.
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>>379937543
LL and LL Redux differences don't exist pretty much. It's just DLC really.
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>>379927709
>continues Artyom’s story
huh?
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>>379937946
It was literally the 28 Days Later song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2H8FWDvEA
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>>379936468

I disagree. Look at a game like Saints Row 3. The open world setting *informs* both the story (in the way the city changes as the story progresses: the military moves in, moments get destroyed, areas get closed off, areas transform, new gangs patrol ect), the gameplay (by allowing car chases, grossly (but fun) unrealistic vehicle based carnage, set piece events manufactured by the player, alternative approaches to completion, and yes, diversions), and theme, in that if you're playing as a crime lord (and you start the game as one so it's not a rags to riches arc, it's a riches to RICHER arc, which should be done more often in games), it makes sense you slowly want to acquire more and more territory, with each conquest making taking more, easier.

Other games have similar examples. Open world *can* serve a game's purpose. Some don't. It's just competency. Also, nothing's fucking perfect. I'll out myself on something. I loved Borderlands 2 *and* the Pre Sequel. Were they prechy/Memey? Yeah. But the gun play was fun, the story was interesting, it was funny, to me, and I found them massively replayable. They are far from perfect but that's not the same thing as bad. I can't think of a *perfect* game, sort of maybe Tetris as every aspect of it serves itself, 0 fluff. But if you limit yourself to stuff like that your game intake will be sadly dry.

Think of it like books. If you limited yourself to perfect pieces of literature it would be like 2 plays from Shakespeare, the Illiad, and a few Falkner and Dostoevsky novels and that's about it, and even that's stretching it. The reality is even the greatest things have flaws, but that doesn't make them any less important/fun/enjoyable or good.
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>>379937472
4A engine is literally updated X-ray. GSC got pretty mad when 4A did it but then again, 4A is a lot of guys from GSC. Just look it up.
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>>379937658
Not to be a smart ass, but you can't go backwards in Mario. Once you pass that part of the level you literally can't go back to it unless you do another playthrough.
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> another grimdark shooter

I'll pass thx
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>>379938019
>Maybe there's a reason to that?
Yeah. It wasn't even technologically feasible until very recently and devs are still trying to figure out how to do it.
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>>379928091
>Not open world.
citation needed
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>>379938179
>GSC got pretty mad when 4A did it
You mean Sergei got mad
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>>379937543
What difficulty? If not ranger hardcore opinion discarded.
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>>379938259
Literally in the OP
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>>379937773
This makes the mouse sensitivity equal in width and height?
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>>379938306
Ranger Hardcore in both
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>>379937472
4A engine is a worked upon X-Ray engine

An early build of Metro 2033 that was leaked long after showed that the game had much more of a STALKER feel and that they hadn't renamed the engine yet
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>>379938330
go use an external program, that shit works better
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>>379937424
Have you actually played Shadow of Chernobyl? Pre-CNPP SoC has excellent level desing and pacing. "Having to hike" to different locations is part of the game and you can see how areas change as the game goes on. Do you just want loading screens that drop you next to the next objective?

It seems like you are assuming that all games with slightly open maps are ubisoft sandbox games.
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Will my gunfu be back?
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>>379937767
They did but current GSC is a dead shell of what it used to be. I highly doubt they'll manage to make STALKER 2. They'll probably go with some garbage f2p multiplayer like Survarium.

>>379937849
Wait, what? There's fucking rads all over. At least in the games.

>>379938389
WHERE IS THAT BUILD
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>>379937921
>Sounds retarded and nothing like a good game, right?
Actually it sounds like Deus Ex: HR, which I enjoyed thoroughly.

Levels can be connected linearly on non-linearly.
Objectives in levels can be connected linearly or non-linearly.
Objectives in levels can also have multiple routes.

Hack the computer to open the door and then go down the stairs is a linear sequence of objectives, but you could have 5 interesting and engaging routes to achieve each one. What does this have to do with open world?

Nothing at all.

Open world talks about how the player gets from level to level and the relationship between level and map. It's got nothing to do with linearity, really. GTAV is an incredibly linear experience - one mission follows another in a linear progression from beginning to end.
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>>379938523
you haven't watched the trailer yet?
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>>379932667
no u shit faggot get btfloled
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>>379937891
Why? Metro is literally just a generic corridor shooter with an interesting atmosphere. Who thought making a shooter taking place in a boring underground tunnel system would be fun?
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>>379938330
Oh shit forgot about the x:y issue
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why are you fags so butt busted over open world games did a copy of GTA rape your mom or something
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I'm happy with a Metro that isn't open world garbage, but what happened to that space game they were supposedly working on? I'd prefer that.
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>>379938501
you see, I shouldn't have to use an external program to fix their broken game

hopefully they'll get it right in their third game
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>>379937208

>people who just jumped in and started at witcher 3
>always asking what he fuck is going on

WEIRD ITS ALMOST LIKE THERE WERE TWO OTHER GAMES BEFORE THAT ONE
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>>379938330
No it only gets rid of accel
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>using tiny ass crossbow against fuckhuge bear mutant
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>>379938185
You can in smb3
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>>379938682
Thank you for your worthless opinion. Open world fag who dislikes good linear shooters. No surprise so far.
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>>379936929
>Witcher 3 suffered from going open world and sucked
>Batman: Arkham City suffered from going open world and sucked

Stopped taking you seriously after this.
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>>379938804
>tfw people are now asking what the fuck is going on because they got the bad ending
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>>379938837
I might have used the wrong term, that's the issue I meant
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>>379938564
>Wait, what? There's fucking rads all over. At least in the games
Yeah they made it far more lethal, same book has one man not even use a mask on the surface. You've also got all those untranslated books of people living way up north somewhere in Karelia.

No doubt in this new game the places without a gas mask will be those completely untouched by the bombs.
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>>379932671
UUMMMMMM SPOILERS MUCH? I WANTED TO PLAY THE GAMES MYSELF NOW YOU RUINED MY EXPERIENCE FUCKING END YOURSELF 2BH
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>>379938804
Next you're going to tell me Bethesda didn't create the Fallout series.
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>>379937658
DUDE. YOU CAN GO UP THE CLOUDS. YOU CAN STAY ON THE GROUND.
IT'S TOTALLY OPEN WORLD!
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>>379930904
ahahah lol+1
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>>379938127
>the open world setting *informs* both the story
The story is a train journey from Moscow to Vladivostok. Are you going to make an open-world map spanning the breadth of Russia? No. An open world setting here will only ever constrain Metro's story. Or, in other words, totally ruin it and make it completely fucking unworkable because that simply cannot be done in an open world manner, at all, full stop.

>the gameplay (by allowing car chases, grossly (but fun) unrealistic vehicle based carnage, set piece events manufactured by the player alternative approaches to completion, and yes, diversions)
Can be equally accomplished with expansive levels.

>and theme
The theme is of being trapped in a claustrophobic environment trying to survive, hemmed in on all sides by monstrous mutants and monstrous men. I think a big expansive open world with airy vistas and lots of freedom will enhance that theme a fuckton, don't you?
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>>379938564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywIrBT3GL2Y
It's actually apparently a demo build
It's pretty much just very rough areas from Metro 2033 with a more STALKER-esque feel along with STALKER assets

>current GSC is a dead shell of what it used to be
They just made Cossacks 3
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>>379938940
It's true. Batman: Arkham Asylum is the only good Batman game. The Witcher 1 and 2 are the only good Witcher games. Good for you if you can stand open world trash, but I can't.
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>>379938970
>No doubt in this new game the places without a gas mask will be those completely untouched by the bombs.
Well I guess it makes sense for there to be pockets of non-irradiated areas but still, I preferred the confinement to the metro. This way it's going to be a fucking Fallout or Escape from Tarkov clone.
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>>379930857
underrated
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>>379939238
>Witcher 1 and 3 are the only good Witcher games
FTFY
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>>379938510
>"Having to hike" to different locations is part of the game
Yes, and it's a bad part of the game that ruins the pacing.

>Do you just want loading screens that drop you next to the next objective?
What I don't want is to waste my time wandering around engaging in bullshit faffing about to pad playtimes while not actually playing the game.

Tight, concise experiences are superior to autistic aimlessness.
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>>379939206
No kidding. It's fucking Agroprom with that area that lead to Pripyat.
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>>379938523
I loved this nigger-rigged bicycle minigun. I laughed at it the second I saw it, but it was too funny not to use.
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>>379939419
I appreciate you making excellent arguments on why Linear > Open World for me. Thanks, m8.
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>>379938068
>he got the bad end
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>>379939419
So you are saying that you can only enjoy a book if someone else is reading it for you?
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>>379932094
fuck off last ligt is great
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Anybody who wanted this game to go open world are ADHD riddled cancer children. Prove me wrong.

There really is no reason for 4A to make it fully open-world.

I can just see it in my head. You go topside, get to a little settlement that shouldnt exist, then they send you on the same mission over and over at different settlements. And thats it. Thats all you do. Run shitty side quests with no purpose or drive it just there to swallow up all your time.

Keep on with that based linearity 4A you beautiful bastards.
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>>379939247
The train line will no doubt be going through all sorts of cities along the way and there's no chance in hell they haven't been bombed. Kind of hoped to get something similar to this but based on the Moscow metro. Oh well.
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>>379939678
retard, your analogy doesn't work
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>>379933819
great thanks for sharing. now go watch a movie and consider killing yourself.
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>>379939615
You mean the real end.
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>>379939678
And you're saying you can only appreciate a book if it requires you to explore and look through a million pages to actually find the text worth a shit inside it
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>>379939678
I am saying that good books get to the point and don't ramble on about bullshit.
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>>379938523
>Tfw double barrel shotgun won't come back
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The train better be comfy as fuck.
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>>379936465
CoP were open levels too except they were much bigger.

Open world is something seamless like GTA San Andreas.
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>>379927709
>Caring about a Metro game after the fucking awful piss in the face that was Last Light
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>>379939564
>mfw I have a finance exam in less than 24 hours
>mfw it's a hurdle exam so i have to get 50% to pass the course
>mfw attended no lectures
>mfw done no study
>mfw spending my time here, arguing about open worlds on a nubian reed-basket weaving forum
It's all worth it for the (You)s.
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>>379939172

Hey I agree that the *METRO* series might not be suited for open world. I said before that much of the themes of Metro are informed by the claustrophobic, isolation, yet safer spaces of the Metro contrasted by the harsh, constant attacks, and constant sense of drowning. I don't see how it will feel like a Metro game when not *in* the METRO, but, *but* competent devs can pull off great stuff. 4A has, at least in my experience, proven to be very competent. If they think they can make Metro both in gameplay and narrative and theme fit in open or semi-open or hub based world, then I eagerly await their attempt. They haven't used up any strikes with me. I wouldn't buy a Bioware game again: they used up their strikes a long time ago. But so far I am yet to feel burned by 4A so I will give them the benefit of the doubt until they bite.
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>>379939769
Agreed
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>>379939769
This

Cool whit semi but fully are rarely done right
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reading the speculations about the train makes me wish there was a survival game about collecting resources and fixing the train, finding survivors and trying to survive the winter or something like that
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>>379939813
You might have liked the bad end better, but the good end is canon, since Artyom is clearly still alive.
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>>379930689
i'm pissing myself if he'll visit my hometown
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>>379927709
What's the big deal with the whole open world thing? I'm just fucking ESTATIC that there's a new Metro coming soon.


AND IT HAS TRAINS!
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>>379939527
It was literally created as part of a "design a gun" contest.
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>>379939419
Trying to get from point A to point B without getting shot by bandits or mauled by bloodsuckers while making sure that you have enough supplies to complete the next objective is great tho. It keeps you engaged in the game and immerses you in the world.
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>>379940259
Well is it in the path?
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>>379940386
doesn't really work for metro
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>>379939782
I don't know, it doesn't make sense. Metro in Moscow isn't that big and only really spans the city which no doubt was bombed to hell. Otherwise you'd have shitload of people simply migrating the metro to areas that weren't bombed and living there.
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>>379940307
ITS NOT OPEN WORLD YOU FUCKING STALKERNIGGER
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>>379940245
A Snowpiercer game would be pretty cool, pun not intended
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>>379940307
I'm hype as fuck about a new metro game too, but I just didn't want it to suck ass. I'd feel disappointed if there was an opportunity to continue a great series and then it bombed.
>>379940532
He never said it was open world you nigger
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>>379940629
Bruh

SOMEBODY OUT THERE DO THAT SHIT
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>>379940167
>every game that has tried to transfer to open worlds has suffered, from MGSV to Witcher 3, even with highly competent devs at the helm and large budgets
>"clearly open worlds are not the problem, let's ruin another series"
Optimism does not become anyone.
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>>379940307
>Metro
>like "in a metro"
>because the people in Moscow sheltered in the subway system and formed a new society there
>because outside you can't breath without a gas mask
>so yeah, the whole thing is set in a metro
>because it's a metro game

You dumbass
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>>379940307
I want the new Metro to be good. If it was open world, it wouldn't be good. I'm glad it isn't.
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>>379940460
no, i thought that trans siberian railway passes through my comfy shithole, but it doesen't. sad, but whatever.
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>>379940489
>navigating tunnels trying to find a safe route through maintenance shafts or maybe even skipping through the surface while being low on supplies
Use your imagination lad. That sounds great.
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>>379929198
>than your Stalker shit
Why are you trying to make this into an "us vs them" thing? Metro and STALKER are both great.
Sit the fuck down you child.
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>>379928702
>Open world is superior to linear in every way.
It's actually not tho
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>>379927709
>vast, non-linear levels

So like shadow of chernobyl then? Sounds pretty neat.
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>>379940754
Exactly. And it especially pisses me off when you do it to established series that are known for being great and very well designed and then you turn them into open world shit.
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>>379940386
>hiking across boring open world while occasionally plinking at trash mobs for 99% of the game
"keeps you engaged... immerses you in the world"
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>>379934480
it was nice to balance out the killing in the second game and give the Commies a nice whoop
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>>379940792
nah, linear games with large crafted levels are always better than open world games
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>>379940510
Considering the size of the train it looks like a scouting journey more than anything. That and with Polis+Rangers having D6 they've got a lot of resources lying about. All the train drivers are old or dead by 2033 too. Easier said than done.
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>>379940939
The way I figured it'll basically be like SoC but the zones will instead be laid out in order along a literal train track.

>tfw comfy train HQ
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>>379928702
>copypasted empty landscapes are harder to make than handcrafted, unique levels
very low IQ post
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>>379940939
No, mostly because in this you won't be able to go back to a level you completed.
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Just have good stealth ffs
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>>379936545
>Devs had little imagination

It's based on the books ya dumb cunt
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>>379941227
never ever, the stealth will just be spam knives and pistol
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>>379941201
It's middle of the night in Estonia and he takes ages to make videos of anything anyway.
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>>379938523
>mfw the sound effect mixed with the bullet impact
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>>379941072
At least try to present some arguments.

Last light had a terrible and boring story. Going for more open levels is not going to hurt the game.
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>>379936545
>The devs had little imagination
you mean the author of the books? he literally helped create both games
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>>379939769
I wouldn't mind a metro game involving managing a station, expanding, defending, etc.
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>>379941212
mfw you have limited time to scout before train leaves
mfw you are runing from the storm that fucks up shit

please
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We gotta stretch shit out, man. I want objectives to be 10000 miles apart from each other. Just grab all the content and spread it as thin as possible. Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle, that's my kinda shit.
It's just so realistic and immersive, which is how I determine the quality of my video games.
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>>379938259
>Explore the Russian wilderness across vast, non-linear levels

Open world doesn't have levels,
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>>379941084
Right... The fucking train... I forgot the train...

Jesus christ they're putting a train in a metro game...

And the Exodus subtitle suggests that they're just gonna scout area outside and get people out of the Metro. Holy shit I just got the entire plot...
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>>379941481

then go play fallout 4 you little faggot.
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>>379941491
ofcourse forgot mf
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>>379941438
having open level design is not a bad thing, having one BIG HUEG map with shit scattered around it is not, and that is what open world means
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But why was he able to take the gas mask off outside?
I thought the air was dead or someshit
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>>379941575

I would imagine you take to train on paths to other areas above other major stations in the metro, with plenty of metro exploration still.

My only question is...Where the fuck is the nixie watch?
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>>379941212
I rarely did that anyway outside of going back to the bar to sell gear, SHoC gets pretty linear later on so I don't see how this is bad as long as each of the areas will have traders and such. I imagine that the zones here will be larger than SHoC levels as well.
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>>379941765
holy shit the people on this site
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>>379941575
>Tfw at the end of the game you reach vladivostok and its untouched by bombs
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>>379932094
Nah, Last Light is good, just get the redux so you can choose to play it in Survival mode, where it plays like the original.
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>>379941917
and then you bomb it
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>>379941909
Don't reply if you have nothing worthwhile to add
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>>379941491
>Limited time
Fuck that, filters can already serve as a timer. Let me explore in relative peace.
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Haha this game will be dead on arrival if it's linear. Must be some lazy ass Devs on it this time.
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>>379941765
Cause it's the shitty post-post-apocalyptic scenario.
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>>379941765
>he removed the mask
Artyom is a big guy
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>>379941765
Because they're going to shit up the franchise in order to sell more sequels.
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>>379941909
Just ignore the summerfags.
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>>379927709
>epic

dropped
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>>379941765

Look inward, why are you even asking this question? Nobody has played the game yet, how would anybody know?

If I had to quess, I would assume there are "pockets" of clean air up top. Just like in the Metro where there are pockets of toxic air.
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>>379931140
Considering Artyom died in the C'est la vie ending.
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>>379940532
I didn't say it was idiot. I stated I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK about the "IZ ET OPAN WURLD" argument. I'm just happy there's another Metro game!
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>>379941495
We gotta put the game more on rails man. The player has to be immersed in this great narrative. Better strip away any interaction so player won't be distracted from our great cinema calibre story. It seems just like a movie and that is how I like my video games.
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>>379942048
talking about hours in real life
dunno might be annoying but I want it
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>>379941765
Because toxic air 5 years down the line, let alone 30 is retarded no matter how you slice it.
Much like the books, the games now sheepishly retcon it step by step into something more sensible.
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>>379941963
>>and then you bomb it
bad end
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>>379941872
The Nixie watch was there, anon. I was hoping for something new really.

>>379941575
>>379941917
Here's how it's going to be:
>you take a metro path and clear it out
>scout to the outside
>clear the outside
>call in the train and establish an outpost
>rinse and repeat
Literally Far Cry tier gameplay. I'm calling it now.

>>379942059
Literally nobody cared who he was until he put on the mask.
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>>379942394
inb4 it's canon this time
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>>379941765
Because HE'S THE CHOSEN ONE AND HE HAS SPECIAL MAGIC LUNGS AND ABILITIES WHICH HE WAS GRANTED BY THE LITTLE ONE (THE BLACK MUTANT) AND THEREFORE HE CAN SURVIVE THE RADIATION because he's basically the Moses who's going to lead out humanity to the outside world.
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>>379942518
>bad end canon in 2033, good end canon in Last Light
I wonder which end will be canon this time
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>>379940460
I saw some fuel tanks and shit on the train cars, so I can assume the Premise is the "Good Guy" faction (It's been a while but whoever aren't The Communists or the Nazis) finds a working Steam train with plenty of Coal and train cars (I'm sure they'll explain it somehow) and decide to pack everyone up and leave the dank Metro underground to venture into the Brave new world east of Moscow's ruins to find a better place to thrive, taking their journey to the possibly irradiated Pacific Ocean.
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>>379936278

I'm not falling for that again.
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I was recommended this series by /v/ and it fucking sucked. Boring game, invisible walls everywhere, not particularly impressive graphics for a linear game, dropped it 2 hrs in. What a mediocre game. No idea what people here see in it.
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>>379938523
Will the Tihar? Fucking love the Tihar, just shooting very fast ball bearing at incredible hihg speed into people's craniums.
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>>379942740
Hopefully none because they will move on to that damn space game they've been talking about for over half a decade now
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>>379941575
Well if its hub-based and not actual open world, the train might be a load screen type thing to go between hubs.
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>>379942781
you didn't make it to khan did you
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>>379942697
I get that funposting is fun, but the girl in the trailer wasn't wearing a mask either.
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>>379941575
In the last metro game they always fuck shit up and nothing goes according to the plan. I think it will be the same in this game they'll probably wreck their train and they have to steal a new one or some shit like that.
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>>379942459
>The Nixie watch was there, anon. I was hoping for something new really.

The watch in the trailer was not nixie, there were no filaments or coils. It had weird blocks around the digital numbers, but they definitely looked digital.

And the Nixie watch was cool. It made no sense but it added a nice splash of flair to the game.
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List of open world series turning linear:

oh wait there's none. Stay losing linearfags. Soon you will have no new games to play and will have to play your old linear games and low budget indies. Linear is the future and you're getting left behind. Alternatively, you can choose to expand your simplistic linear minds and join the open world master race. Up to you.
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>>379943039
some shit'll break down or we run out of supplies on enemy territory so we have to go out side and look for shit to repair or restock, shit's going to be tense
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Will there be a "Russia hacked the 2016 election" Easter Egg somewhere in the game. I am going to die laughing if there is.
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>>379937517

Reminder that Bourbon is still alive. It's mentioned in passing by two guys in Venice that a gang (You in 2033) wiped out Dry station, and that Bourbon was shot in the stomach and lost a lot of blood, but survived. Khan in 2033 just pulls you away from him and leaves him for dead, you never actually confirm that he died.
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>>379942824
>artyom goes to vladivostok because it has a space center
>their new space game is actually metro 4
yes
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>>379943039
They'll probably screw shit up, but most of the problems they encounter will be shit in the way that stops the train from progressing or Artyom and Ana just wanting to go on fun adventures.
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>>379943295
I wouldn't be surprised, and it would probably be made with a straight face. The devs are somewhat buttblasted Ukrainians, after all.
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>>379937802

The villages match up with those on the map in the trailer and they are on the Volga.
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>>379942781

I wonder what this kid DOES play?
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>>379943274
>Linear is the future and you're getting left behind
You had one job. Here's your (you)
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>>379942980
Yeah she was driving through the already "saved" lands or soemthing I don;t know...

>>379943039
Nah, I doubt it.

>>379942903
Either that, or it'll be a safe house of some sort.

>>379943221
Definitely nixie. Look at the scene where the digits blink. Those are nixie tubes 100%. That said I still prefer the old watch from 2033.
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>>379941765
Because in Last Light shit was beginning to normalize, the nuclear winter was fading away and opening up into spring. Plus the radiation wasn't level, in the game it's said that some hotspots would kill you in minutes, but some areas on the surface could be habitable if it weren't for the mutants and gloom.

I know this because I just replayed the Metro games last week.
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>>379943417
>Artyom turning space into his bitch: the game
Yeah, sure, why not?
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>>379943039
They'll definitely get stuck in the wilderness fending off whatever's out there and probably coming into contact with other humans.
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So where are they going ?

>East
Probably south Sibir since there is no one to bomb there
>North
Nowhere to go there expect far far north
>South
If they go southeast
>West
They come from there

So IS SIBIR THE PROMISED LAND

B-BUT PIC SAYS WESTE
shut up
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>>379943428
Their train will get ambushed and shit and some of their buddies get captured and they have to get them back from some underground tunnel base.
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New thread
>>379943751
>>>379943751
>>379943751
>>379943751
>>>379943751
>>379943751
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>>379943274
>openworldfags
>linearfags

Good Christ there's nothing you people won't do to have some competition in ANYTHING.
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>>379942980

The areas outside Moscow weren't nuked, and fallout/radiation dissipates over time. You also hear in Last Light that the air in the city is gradually becoming clearer.
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>>379943703
They're going to Vladivostok
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>>379943495
But does Ukraine give a shit about the US presidential elections at all though?

Wouldn't their preferred easter eggs be something that Ukranians would care about like Crimea?
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>>379940168
>>379940172
>>379939769
>if Metro was open world it would end up like my conceited definition and view of open world games
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>>379943904
well shit
here whit my theory
where is that btw
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>>379943703

They are near Nizhny Novgorod.
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>>379943990
Im the middle guy

I wasn't implying its open world
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>>379944107
google it
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>>379928658
https://youtu.be/17sEq7HX2QE
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>>379936278
>playing through the library in my pitch black room at midnight

That was fucking tense.
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>>379944238
Makes sence
>>379943904
holy shit thats far
why even go there
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>>379943608
>Definitely nixie. Look at the scene where the digits blink. Those are nixie tubes 100%. That said I still prefer the old watch from 2033.

Okay, found a 1080p60 video finally on the metro youtube. Every other upload was really low-quality 720p captures from the stream.

It does appear to be nixie now, but they definitely changed it from the LL watch. It looked better in LL in my opinion. They should just have you be able to select which watch you want at this point, since they introduced two different ones. That would be a tiny amount of work for them to implement.
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>>379944518
probably some last safe haven shit
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>>379943417
>>379943645
>He meets the descendant of Yuri Gagarin and they share a bottle of Vodka in zero gravity.
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>>379936278
That level was intense as fuck.
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>>379944518
i think it's because Artyom thinks there's a settlement there because of radio transmissions or something
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>>379935184

>If it doesn't take GTA-likes codes, it's not an open world

fuck off
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