Valkyria Revolution

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>>379569442

WTF was Sega thinking?

>>379569512
They weren't.

>tfw you're one of the four people in the world with taste so bad that you enjoy the combat
Feels good

>>379569846

how's the story?

I forgot about this game. What did they do to fuck it up?

>that PC and PS4 port did pretty well
>let's use the money to fund a game that has nothing in common with the series

>>379569356
What the fuck went so wrong with this franchise? First game was pretty fun, why don't they port the second and third games?

>>379570024
>no more faux world war setting
>giant spider tanks
>girl in a moe costumes
>8 foot swords
>real time button mashing instead of turn-based strategy

Basically they removed everything that anyone liked about Valkyria Chronicles and made it as generic as possible just to piss us all off.

>>379569356
Why did they make this game?
It blows my mind that they thought it was a good idea.

>>379570097
something something Japan (read:otaku) only like magical highschool settings and sega thought making them into handheld games were a good idea

>>379570023
>Story
HA...HA...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>379569356

People seem to forget that after three games in the same setting they might have just wanted to do something different

Hence this game in another universe but everyone has to shit on it

Its turned into a 'NOTHING DIFFERENT ALLOWED, ONLY THE ORIGINAL OR FUCK OFF' situation

But i don't really care about that, gonna get it regardless

>>379571079
It's more like the majority of people like the gameplay and setting of the first game but the anime-esqe parts of it were what were divisive. Some people didn't really fit the WWI vibe to have your kawaii desu solider girls do a pose everytime they murder a man and they act like they give a shit about human life during the cutscenes. Each subsequent game dialed up the anime more and more and most people hated them. VC is a series with one objectively "good" game and it wasn't even that great. If they wanted to make a proper VC sequel why not just make a new war story instead of hammering in moe shit to the point that everything is tainted. I play and beat off to kawaii uguu games as much as everyone here does but if you're going to make something like that you need have some self-awareness. You can't take a story and setting like VC's and expect everything to work just as well if it were four times as anime.

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>>379569356

Why don't they just reboot the series with Selvaria as the MC or co-protagonist,

Sega keeps leeching off her popularity anyway.

>>379569442
To be fair, is this because the game's shitty or because of the waifu thing, because I've seen some quite decent games get 1'starred en masse by spergs in Japan who're upset over something trivial.

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>>379570024
>What did they do to fuck it up?

Everything.

>>379571079

fuck off, different doesn't always mean good.

>>379570097
Because they kind of suck desu. 2 has an infuriating anime high school setting, and they both feel totally different because of the tiny maps and godawful swordsman class.

>>379571079
Then call it something else. Shit, I don't even care about the setting that much. I just want the gameplay from the the original, with a more streamlined interface.

>NotSelvaria dies in the game
Dropped. When will they learn?

>>379571379
I love Selvaria. From what I heard the literal only good things about the sequels is they insert a clone of her in the games for you to romance.

>>379571563
Spoilers are good for more than just memes anon not that I had plans to play this soon anyway

>>379571079

No, fuck off. If this was something with new and creative game mechanics I'd buy that fucking excuse but it's just shining force with the most simple fucking coat of paint. What's baffling is that it's not even a true VC coat of paint. It's just lazy.

>>379571462

Three is the best game in the series and two still has mostly superior gameplay to the first. People just whine about the high school setting, which is a fine critique until you realize a lot of the 'war is hell' fags want there to be actual rape and torture scenes for some reason.

>>379570097
Even though it's a cult game in North America Valkyria never sold terribly well on the whole so they've kept fucking with it to try and make something more viable. Best as I can tell the only reason they've been given so many chances is because Sakura Taisen was a money printing machine for like a decade.

I'm not sure why its so hated yet.
Anytime anybody asks they just give ambiguous answers. At most "its not like the others" is stated, but that's about it. Nothing about how good or bad the gameplay is.

>>379572005
Because everything about this game is boring, uninspired, and lazy.


It's not just

>muh gameplay

>>379572005
You can try the demo on the JP store. I'm still probably going to get it but the gameplay is pretty brainless.

You just one mash one button, you only have one combo. Sandbags don't do shit. You get abilities and stuff but they do the same damage as your normal button mashing. There is no strategy at all, you can run in on 5 enemies and not take shit from intercepting fire.

>>379572226
How

>>379572232
That does sound pretty bad. Like a very slow-going musou.

>>379572005

I watched a boss fight video where the player spends 40 minutes spamming the same 3 moves and healing items while the boss sits still and does practically nothing, and felt physically ill

>>379572278
That's a pretty good comparison, it's like Musou with an ATB bar.

>>379571834
I respectfully disagree. Some things improved, like more tank customization, but the small set of tiny maps was a huge bummer, And fuck melee units of any kind being on the same battlefield as tanks. Shit's stupid.

>>379572005
I played the demo myself I can tell you exactly what I hate about it: it's not a turn-based strategy game. You run into a mob, mash one button to swing your final fantasy sword, then a giant gundam monster pops out and you mash the button for like ten minutes. It not only has no connection to the series, it's just fucking boring.

>>379572005
You know how FFXV's gameplay is a watered down clusterfuck of user survey feedback to try and make it appeal to everyone?

Valkyria Revolution has that problem except it's also a low budget anime action game made by people that don't make action games to start with.

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>>379571379
>>379571439
>>379571563
>>379571585
Imca best girl. Selvariafags will never know.

any good. examples of gameplay? seen nothing for this game other than the outcry

>>379572865
This nigga gets it.

>>379573053
https://youtu.be/rCcp_EGzJkQ?t=5m46s

lol

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>>379572865
I respect your opinion, but just look at this dick destroyer.

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>>379573148
>Still no female enemy models

>>379573253

THICC

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>>379573148

that battle system looks like shit.

>>379573148
that's some spin to win kinda shit

>>379571743
Old Shining Force or newer Shining Force?

>>379573148
Holy shit. They've completely killed everything I liked about the first game.
at least the music had its moments

>>379573148
Those are some weird character models. Those girls look like they're ripped from an Illusion game

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>>379571379
>Sega knows fully well about Selvaria's popularity and continues to make merch of her
>even goes so far as to make a clone character of her in the spin-off game, make her a childhood friend, and even give her a very loose connection to the empire since she's only being mind controlled
>still kill her off
You can't make this up.

>>379572351

Oh, so it's a monster hunter clone.

So this is Sega's Andromeda...

>>379573849

The newest shining games, not so much shining force.

>>379571435
at least 75% because its simply not a good game. The only positive the game has is its story, which is pretty refreshing because its a bunch of assholes who were childhood friends that plunge their country into war for very selfish personal reasons.

>>379573148
I hope the developers are fired already. It should be unforgivable, developing such a shit game with 0 redeeming values.

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>>379571079
There's still not a single game that gave the original on PS3 justice.

Fuck Sega

>>379571079
it would have been fine if they made it a good game, but they didn't so now its a bad game as well as it being a slap in the face for the existing fans.

>>379570045
>let's also not release it on PC, but instead release it on the Xbox One
what the fuck are they thinking?

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The first one had a mediocre story and was still full of a lot of silly anime shit even though it tried to have a somewhat realistic setting. The gameplay was kind of neat but also really unbalanced. Are 2 and 3 any better?

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>>379575106
>let's also not release it on PC, but instead release it on the Xbox One
You best be rusing me, m8

>>379575232
>The gameplay was kind of neat but also really unbalanced
It actively punished you for using actual strategy in ranks and had bullshit "oh sorry, in the middle of the battle I'll spawn hundreds of troops in the center of the arena, I hope you don't mind it ;^)".
It was a neat game on paper, but its quite overrated in its merits.

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>>379571435
The Japs just don't rate on the 100 - 80% scale that Americans are used to.

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>>379575271
Nope I'm not kidding. Sega announced an Xbox One port a few months ago with no PC version in sight. This is after VC sold about 1 million on PC albeit with a lot of sales, but still an amazing feat regardless.

>>379575271
No, its for PS4, Vita and Xbox One.

>>379575375
PC ports that come years after the initial release are held to a much much much lower standard.If a game wasn't planned to be ported from the start, then doing it years later only adds the cost of the actual port itself and whether making the port would be more expensive than expected sales. Porting to PC isn't cheap or easy, but most studios that physically can port would be stupid not to. I doubt VC had to sell many PC copies to be considered successful. After a certain point it's 100% profit.

>>379575368
This is true. The first one was extra frustrating because the base system was great, but it almost never lets you just fight a regular battle without crazy bullshit popping out.

>>379576207
The crazy bullshit is fine, just don't spawn them in posizions that were safe and from which the AI can immediately murder half of my team (that was safe a turn before). At least give me a couple of turns to re-position my units to account for the new enemies.

The mission with the big tank in the desert was the worst not because of the tank, which was a very fun boss fight, but because of the fact that you basically have to know it will spawn and account for that while playing the level. It's bullshit that might lead you to have to restart the whole level.

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>>379571079
The main issue is 3 never came to the West, so we only have the first game, and the bastard child that is 2 on a dead console, so most people probably haven't played it. So for many this is only the second game they might have interest in playing and can actually play, and now it is already different. I blame Sega, not the VC team.

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Shouldn't have left Raita behind

>>379569356
>Is this game really that shitty?
no, the thing is Chronicles fags are obsessed with their strategy RPG that they are boycotting this.

>you will never personally go back in time to murder the people responsible for the two cancer PSP games and this abomination, and make Valkyria great again

>>379579579
I thought the third one, (the second for psp) was really good though?

>>379579579
VC3 is great and definitely better than the first, VC2 isn't all that good but it's not offensively bad or anything.

>>379579579

The first one wasn't even that great. It had neat ideas but I don't know why it gets overrated so much.

>>379571563
>doing the same mistake TWICE

they are literally retarded

>>379573148
Dropped

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>>379569356
>console exclusive

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>We will never get another Anime world war game

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>>379573253

>>379576503
>I blame Sega, not the VC team.
I blame both, one for shitting on the hopes and dreams of fans and the other for making a bad game.
Sega cannot do anything right, their entire upper management seems to be fucked.

>>379569356
From what I heard its problem is the loading screens everywhere and long loading times. The story is kinda okay.

>>379580424
Some guy somewhere decided that Sonic Mania was a good idea, so it's not all bad.

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Allow me to explain how Valkyria Revolution came to existence. Someone at SEGA gave a pitch for a middle budget Valkyria game on the PS4.

After 1 year they show their progress and SEGA's executive board is like "this is fucked, put out a demo and see what people think of it". Demo goes out to the public, universally panned by Japanese and those who use a JPN PSN account to try it out. SEGA very apologetic, promises they'll take all the feedback and put out an updated demo in that same summer.

Valkyria Revolution 2.0 is released, still garbage. It is at this point that SEGA puts the break on the project, asks them to make it a multiplatform (Vita) and in the West (Xbox One). SEGA gives the team just enough money to finish the project and it can pass quality assurance, ie the game doesn't lockup and it can be completed. That's it, there is no polishing asinine gameplay. I could go over the complaints but you could just as easily Google "Valkyria Revolution import reviews/preview". Even the most diehard of all weebs hate this game, the story presentation is laughable. I've heard rumblings that ATLUS USA finished the localization as early as January/December, but put it on hold so Persona 5 doesn't destroy what little interest is there for it. It's $40MSRP everywhere and they had to even go out of their way to say this is an experiment, not a "real" mainline entry in the series. I could find better use of $40 than Valkyria Revolution. But it's your money, the game will just bore you to pieces.

There are 2 types of bad games. The mechanically broken ones due to bugs/glitching and the holy shit this is so boring it feels like school busywork kill me. Valkyria Revolution is in the latter, with a budget that reminds you of Western shovelware.

Dweeb imports Valkyria Revolution and talks about it just falls apart
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230393179&postcount=153

Cutscene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku1XhiBmU6w&t=11m25s

So the EU SEGA branch is the one that's porting games to pc correct? than which retarded branch is the one that keeps making console exclusive games

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Riela best valkyria.
VC3 best VC game.

I hope those rumors of VC3 HD actually go somewhere.

I honestly still think it was supposed to be a Shining game but they reskinned it at the last minute. All it's missing is dragons.

Status of hopes and dreams for a second good Valkyria game: Crushed

>>379579769
>>379579820
>liking offensively bad anime shit

Disgusting. Never reply to me again.

>>379581164
VC3 wasn't any more "anime" than VC1

>>379581164
Maybe they tolerate that because the game is good.

>Want to support VC
>This looks like shit
Not even knock off Selvaria is selling me on this

>>379581164
VC1 was offensively bad anime shit.

>>379581203
yes it was. The only absurd weapon in VC1 were the rocket troops, there wasn't anybody running around with 8 feet tall swords and shit.

>>379581203
There's a difference between LoGH and K-ON and they're both anime.

>>379581261

>there wasn't anybody running around with 8 feet tall swords and shit
>forgetting Selvaria and Alicia going super saiyan and blowing up tanks with a magical lance and shield

Come on son.

>>379581261
>there wasn't anybody running around with 8 feet tall swords and shit
Yeah, because Valkyria didn't use that dumb shit in VC1. Even in VC3, the huge weapons don't even take the spotlight in the actual gameplay.

>>379581310
What the fuck does that mean? I'd understand if you were comparing VC1 and VC2, but VC1 and VC3 isn't even a big shift. Hell, VC3 handles the gritty situations better than VC1, and the characters are made to be more believable.

>>379581164
>>379581261
If VC3 is bad anime shit then so is VC1. The two games are extremely similar in tone.
You'd know this if you actually played it.

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There's a cutscene in this game where there's a giant crowd for a ceremony and you hear a lot of applauding background noise, so the camera pans out and you see even more people yet no one's animated.

It's the kinda of thing you see in a storyboard before it gets to the rigging/animation stage. The final product is a cutscene in Valkyria Revolution that feels like a horror game with how much of the crowd you see with haunting clapping noise and rows of NPCs just standing like a Mass Effect Andromeda cutscene.

As I said before in my post >>379580678
the game priced at 30-40 bucks doesn't matter, it really doesn't. It's whether or not you should be wasting your time with it that matters, once you play 5 minutes that's the whole game. With cutscenes the length of MGS4 without any animation or lip-synching, basically powerpoint presentation with 3D models instead and you'll be asking yourself "what happened to the budget" each time as you wait out the hour long cutscene. I wouldn't blame the development too hard, yes it's their name on the credits, but SEGA practically panicked after they couldn't salvage the demo and needed to recoup their losses so they gave the team just enough money to get the game out the door without any polish. Any other company would have either cancelled the game or retooled it to make it fun, sadly this didn't happen with Valkyria Revolution.

>>379580678
Guess the series is officially dead now.

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>>379581310
>>379581261
Textbook example of how to tell whether someone played the game or not

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>54.99 on .ca

>>379581203
>VC3 wasn't any more "anime" than VC1

in VC1 no one had giant swords that can cut tanks in half and other melee weapons in a WW2 setting

>>379569356
>People complain $60 is too much for a new game
>Game released under $60
>Must be shit
Marketing is working perfectly.

>>379581313
two magical super soldiers is entirely different from rank and file militia with melee weapons bigger than they are

come on son

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>>379581583

VC1 wasn't anim-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4yDHxahoU0

>>379581663
>this shit again every time

read >>379581646

>>379574009
What spin-off game?

>>379581505
Is there any other licenses as badly handled as this one?

>>379581770
The one in the OP obviously

>>379581663
>>379581706

the argument is not that VC1 isnt anime, but rather the sequals took it far beyond that

once again magical super soldiers with alien energy weapons is not the same as every other character invalidating fire arms and being able to cut a tank in half with giant anime swords

>>379581809
I thought this one was mainline.

>old game had some ridiculous stuff and is generally accepted, therefore newer game with tons more ridiculous stuff should be just as accepted
please stop.

>>379581857
>I thought this one was mainline.
heh

>>379581861
>tons more
lol
The only thing people bitching about VC3 can even muster up is complaining about big weapons

>>379581861
>tons more ridiculous stuff
That's not even true

>>379581232
>Not even knock off Selvaria is selling me on this

She's fake anyway, a completely different kind of character transformed to look like her because lolmagic

>>379572385
The map objectives are actually more varied than the first game.
In the first game it was always just get to point A and take over the camp. 3 Has all sorts of different objectives.

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VC2 delivered on the best Valkyria and a return to Raita's older designs, that's enough to make it enjoyable. The anime-like romance and general behaviour of the characters are basically the same as they were in VC1 anyway, only difference is they're now in a school.

>>379581483
>>379581449
>it's extremely similar!
You have to be blind or genuinely retarded to actually believe this.
>just go play it!
Why would I even do that? I know I wouldn't like it since the style is absolutely fucking abhorrent, and the style always tells everything you need to know about story and characters in Japanese games. I wouldn't go play Neptunia just because one of you told me it's just as good as Tactics Ogre or read some Kodomo no Jikan style manga because you say it's totally just as good as Blame! Yeah, right.

>>379581861
>>379581856
>>379581646

>thing is ok in one game because I like it but same thing isn't ok in other game because I don't like it

No. I'm not even saying this looks good, but fuck you and your double-standards. Even outside of Alicia and Selvaria, VC1 had its fair share of anime bullshit too.

>>379581941
the valkria at least had the justification of being descendants of ancient aliens with a technology so advanced it might as well be magic

there is no justification in VC3 why all these normal humans can wield giant swords and hammers that weigh a ton and can chop tanks in haft with them other than "muh anime cool factor"

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>>379582119
>hasn't even played the game
Should've just said that from the start, at least then people would know not to trust you. Being part of the /v/ elite that doesn't play games but still talks like they know anything about it will just make people disregard any opinion you have, and for good reason too.

>>379582158

>VC3 why all these normal humans can wield giant swords and hammers that weigh a ton and can chop tanks in haft with them

This literally never happens in VC3. Swords and hammers aren't even effective against Tanks in game unless you attack their glowing weakspot engine like in the first one. And even then rocket launchers are still the most effective method of taking them down.

>>379582119
>hasn't played the game
>thinks he can judge the quality and say they aren't similar

VC1 fanboys are pathetic.

>>379582128
>Even outside of Alicia and Selvaria, VC1 had its fair share of anime bullshit too

but none of them are on the level of fucking 12ft long 1 ton anime swords cleaving apart tanks wielded by a 4ft loli who doesnt even have the justification of being a magical super soldier

>>379582218
then they shouldnt be in the game in the first place

but they are and thus VC3 is dumb anime bullshit

>>379582189
>>379582224
>you can't judge the art style and designs without actually playing a game

You share a board with people this embarrassingly fucking stupid. What a time to be alive.

so now VC franchise is 100% dead because of VC3 right?

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>>379582317
Descendants of ancient aliens with a technology so advanced it might as well be magic should not be in the game in the first place. Therefor all VC games are dumb anime bullshit.

>>379582328
Yeah, basing a game off artbooks is not the way you judge a game. Anyone who would even make such a dumbass claim is retarded.

>>379582371
until they decided to revive the franchise again on pc that is

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>>379582328
>same artstyle
>same character designer

What a dense cunt

>>379582371
Probably. They could go ahead and try to retcon VC2, 3 and Revolution to try and wash off the shitstains but I doubt they will because Sega.

>>379582317

By that argument, then the Valkyrie shouldn't have been in the game at all. The plot could have worked perfectly fine without them and would have even saved on some forced drama.

>>379569442
Holy shit even the gooks hate it

>>379582429
>>379582437
>every single promotional art and screenshots for the game are totally lying, play it right now reeeee

Oh god, just look at these fucking people.

we can guess valkyria chronicles will get buried because valkyria revolution was an awful flop.
i still can't understand why they made this game

>>379582392
And here we are with this nonsense again.
They both have dumb anime bullshit. 3 has more. People don't like the increase in amount of dumb anime bullshit.
How are you struggling with this?

>>379569442
That's every game review on the Japanese amazon

>>379582568
Yeah, screenshots really capture the atmosphere, relationships between characters, and the dialogue really well.
lmao

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>>379582392
agreed

but VC2 and VC3 are still worse anime bullshit than VC1

its like saying an 6 oz bottle of shit and a 2 liter bottle of shit are both just shit, so drinking one over the other doesnt matter, when obviously it does

>>379582510

Not defending this game, but to be fair, amazon reviews are basically the review equivalent of youtube comments. Nips blast games on amazon for the slightest flaws because they personally don't like something.

>>379582595
The only "additional" anime bullshit that VC3 has is humans using big weapons. It's not a massive shift in the slightest, especially since they're not even remotely considered the best for every situation or anything like that. VC2 was a big shift, VC3 was not.

>>379582595
Explain how three has more. List the increase in anime.

All people talk about is the swords and it's not a valid complaint because they aren't as overly present as people make them out to be.

>>379582641
Are you really going to pretend like VC3 had that much more "dumb anime bullshit" than VC1? Every single complaint has been about some troops using big weapons.

>>379582637
Yeah, art and screenshots from Japanese media always let you know what kind of atmosphere and characters to expect. But it's good to let everyone know you're actually too dumb to pick up on this.

>>379582709
but they are still present

and thus VC3 is worse off for it.

>>379582641
More like 1l of shit and 1.1l of shit at best lol

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>>379582791
The atmosphere is made even darker in VC3, fucking everyone in VC1 acted like they just came out of a highschool anime.

>>379582719
and all they need to do is remake VC3 without the giant melee weapons and it would be acceptable

but they wont.

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How is VC3 offensively more anime than VC1? I want serious answers to this.

Where is this abundance of anime in this game that makes it so different from VC1?

>>379582801
its still an objective fact that its still more shit and thus worse

>>379582887
That's because they won't remake it regardless senpai.

And fuck them for that.

2 was bad with the high school setting, but there's really nothing that ridiculous with 3. From a gameplay standpoint the swords and hammers are only effective against humans and that's if you take the risk to get close enough to them while getting shot up. They had pretty situational uses. In the actual story they don't have that much of a presence and it's not like the characters are running into combat slicing tanks in half with sword or anything. They were simply a gameplay edition to add a little more variety to the combat, though admittedly they could have been pulled off better. Complaining about them from a serious standpoint is like saying that using command in VC1 to make scouts invincible and have them rush everything is canon in the story too. The overall plot in VC3 had less magical waifus with spears blowing stuff up too.

I'm getting the faint inkling that half the people complaining about 3 haven't actually played. Just a faint inkling.

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>>379582887
So literally your only complaint is "some troops have big weapons"? Nothing about the gameplay, nothing about the story, nothing about the characters, literally just the weapons? Because if so, then I could easily argue that the characters are "less anime" in VC3 than the ones in VC1, and that the actual tone and scenes are made more realistic than the casual wishy-washy nature of VC1.

>>379582437
>same artstyle
Not really, no.

>same character designer
How do you think this is a point?

>>379582794
It's a nonissue. Don't like the option, then don't use it. More options for soldier management are a good thing.

Nothing real to complain about, so people latch onto whatever they can find to hate on the sequels.

why did VC3 kill the franchise

>>379582878
VC3 is so fucking DARK and EDGY, look at all those DEEP and BROODING characters, like that BDSM dominatrix, that TOO COOL FOR YOU guy in shades with the tribal tatoos

or that jolly fat guy, litterally so DARK and MATURE

darker doesnt mean better, its just another kind of anime bullshit

>>379582878
Yeah, it's edgy with all the unique snowflake anime archetypes who are too quirky for regular uniforms. So cool! I hope they add a giant scythe so I can reap the enemy infantry in VC4. Or was that already in 3?

>>379575106
The same thing Sega does when they say "PC is our most profitable platform" and develop dozens of games for platforms other than PC, sometimes PC is exclusively the only platform that doesn't get a game.

>>379583026
>Because if so, then I could easily argue that the characters are "less anime" in VC3 than the ones in VC1

then do so

>>379583092
The things surrounding Selvaria in VC1 were more "edgy" than anything in VC3. The general tone that comes from the characters basically being an offshot puts them in a more of a realistic scenario. It's not without its fault in that regard, but I would definitely say that they're handled better than in VC1. Also, there really wasn't much brooding at all, Kurt is more of a serious autist than someone who sits in a corner and bitches.

>>379573148
Who let this accident happen?

>>379583084
probably those hueg weapons

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>>379583212
The same people who let the other two accidents happen.

>>379583123
They are part of a penal squad that performs shady and illegal operatives. They can wear whatever they want

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I don't understand the big sword meme.
It's one of the only things people complain about when criticizing the sequels and it's not a very good argument either.

Not only do are they poor weapons come the third game, but none of your soldiers use them unless you change them to the class. When they were introduced in VC2 they were the equivalent of VC1 scouts, but they no longer hold that position

Complaining about swords and big weapons outs you as someone who hasn't actually touched the games.
So much misinformation about the sequels are parroted as fact that it makes me wonder why people even consider themselves fans of the series when they only touched the first game.

>>379583084
It didn't, Sega did.

>VC1 underperforms in Japan but does well in the west
>Sega decides for VC2 to try to make it appeal to the japs who didn't like the game and alienate the west with a anime highschool setting
>Also put it on a shitty hand held when one of the strongest features of VC1 was the art style
>VC2 sells like shit in Japan and West
>Sega decides the west doesn't like VC anymore
>Makes VC3 more like VC1 but only release it in Japan where VC1 was never popular anyway.
>sells like shit
>ded series

>>379581970
>That's not even true
VC2 was literally in a highschool setting

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>>379583269
>people actually believe this

>>379583092

I don't know how you even put up with VC1 in the first place with that stance. All the characters in that were anime archetypes.

>>379583287

Most people saw 2 and it soured them on 3 without actually touching it.

>>379583287
Because running around with a sword and shield is fucking stupid? Selvaria had magic, your idiots are just normal idiots.

>>379583123
I don't mind it too much as it gave them some individuality.

And I like Leila the way she is.

>>379583418

But it's only gameplay wise and they're a bad choice in most situations. It's not part of the story.

Why does Valkyria Chronicles of all series have the equivalent of pokemon's genwunners?
I don't get it.

>>379583287
no one played the sequels because they are handheld only garbage

its not surprising that the first game is more played when it was on the PS3 and later PS4 and PC

>>379583269

There's a weird level of history being rewritten with VC1, it was never that intense. I don't know if using the wannabe idol character for that image is intentional irony or not.

>>379582662
I think a better comparison would be Metacritic user reviews. Japan Amazon reviews are literally the same thing but in Jap.

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>>379583183
Alright, Alicia acts like a highschool girl in the war, and drags the tone down pretty massively, making it resemble everything but the type of desperate situation they're in. The squad in VC3 in comparison doesn't really have anything like that. Imca gets worked up and irritated alot which is pretty stereotypical, but I couldn't imagine any of them talking like a typical anime imouto. The stereotypes that they do use actually fit the setting, and as a result, makes it feel more realistic and consistent.

The romance is also handled better, since it's more in one direction than in VC1. Both Kurt and Welkin are autists, but Welkin gets mixed up in more typical japanese misunderstandings and 'hilarity'. The characters in VC1 are younger in general actually, which probably sort of contributes to the more 'free' tone, which really isn't something you want. Making the war seem more like a game than any sort of really tense situation doesn't help.

Both are good games, but if you're going to act like the plot or characters in VC1 aren't more generic anime than in VC3, then you're out of your mind.

>>379583418
It's an anti infantry weapon and only good for specific situations. You will die if you try to run around with it.

Again, the melee weapons aren't as obscene as people make them out to be.

>>379583452
>designs get worse
>gameplay improves very slightly
>none of them are all that good really
that's a pretty apt comparison, anon.

>>379583452
because PSP/ Vita owners have to justify their terrible purchase by pretending VC2/3 are better than 1

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>>379583304
>ports it to the PC in the west where it makes waves for selling very well despite its age
>Makes Valkyria Revolution the most pandering to Japs release yet
>Japs hate the most out of every game so far
>don't even port it to PC
>still fucking kill Selvaria
Who the fuck are they letting run this shit show?

>>379583452
Because people didn't actually play the games they complain about, mainly because of no western release and being stuck on a shitty handheld.

>>379583485
look at the image, its a picture of a real war with anime girls

thats what VC1 is

>>379583452
because 1 was the only good game gameplay wise even though it was super broken with scout + order spam
having to split up the maps because of technical limitations really just kills the sequels in my opinion

>>379583552
Seeing as most everyone who actually played VC3 emulated it your argument hold no ground.

VC3 is better than VC1 because the gameplay is more balanced, gives you more options, and is far more polished.

>>379583638
>because 1 was the only good game gameplay wise
But that's wrong.

>>379583697
you could try reading my post maybe

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>>379583485
VC1 was a hardcore gritty reimagining of WW2

>>379583628

The framing was a real war, sure. The tone of the game rarely reflected that, your squad was full of wacky anime hijinx.

VC1 is bafflingly overrated, half the time it seems like the people praising it never played it.

>>379583528
>Alright, Alicia acts like a highschool girl in the war, and drags the tone down pretty massively, making it resemble everything but the type of desperate situation they're in

protip, this is how people act in real wars, its just what humans do, watch some nam documentaries and you will find people acting just like Alicia

soldier who only think about the type of desperate situation they are in are the first ones to put a bullet in their own brain if the enemy doesnt do it for them

>>379580424
Phantasy Star Online is the only thing they have done right.

>>379583554
There was always a few fuckups in charge. Just think about the first game that everyone praises so much.

>only way to get A ranks is to take a scout and have it walk directly from spawn to flag

>>379569356
Still can't beat the first one. Stuck on the level with the two big tanks on either side and the hordes of dudes.

>>379571462
>Then call it something else.
It's called something else though, dumb shitposter.

>>379583554
I think sega execs just hate us fifthly gaijin and are mad that they can't get superior niponese brains to love VC no matter how much anime they shove into it

>Japs didn't like VC1 because it was too dark and brutal
I'm not sure if two nukes were too much or too few

>>379583954
>changed title from valkyria chronicles to valkyria revolution
woah so different, really makes u think

>>379583875
My point was more that the serious tone was hardly conveyed at all, most of it just came to light when dealing with the stuff surrounding Selvaria. In VC3, you can at least tell they're at war, and that they can't just fuck about all the time. The anime hijinx and shit occur more often in VC1 than they did in VC3. I don't mind that at all, but he asked me to explain how the characters are more "anime", so I did.

>>379584090
should've nuked them out of existence

>>379584174
But then we'd only have shit games and a handful of good FPS.

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>>379583743
>VC1 was a hardcore gritty reimagining of WW2

god fucking damnit. i kekd

>>379584254
I'm sure another country would've taken it's place as the weabcontry, maybe china or taiwan or may russia

>>379584312
Probably not, no.

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>thread has people complaining about VC3
>people respond even after they admitted to not even having played it and just judging it by artwork and screenshots

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JUST

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>>379583269
VC1 had

>a beach chapter
>magical girls shooting lasers from big weapons
>said girls deflecting tank fire
>an idol character
>a gay comic relief caricature
>a pig mascot
>a bad forced romance
>bad and pointless anime deaths Faldio, Isara, and Selvaria
>poor handling of racism
>ham-fisted realization that not all jews, I mean darcsens, are bad
>a supporting cast made out of anime archetypes
>selvaria being demure waifu bait
>a final boss that gives himself super powers to fight you

Where's the serious war story that people are trying to make VC1 out to be?

>>379569356
>getting rid of Raita
>putting most of the games on PSP

they deserve this

>>379584506
Raita is terrible.
All he does is making anorexic stick figures with giant baloons.

>>379584614
>>>/lgbt/

>>379584141
and I disagree with that conclusion, the way VC1 is framed that the majority of those scenes take place during the units off time between deployments, they partake in leisure activities, and joke around. This exact same thing is documented in Nam when a platoon is recalled back to HQ to unwind, because if you dont give your soldier time to unwind and relax, they will literally stress themselves to death.

there is nothing "anime" about it, that is a realistic depiction of human behavior in war.

>>379584446
Did VC3 even have half of that?

>>379584387
It's an extremely small change. Revolution is the exact same as VC1. Bet you haven't even played the game.

>>379584358

What did you expect from /v/?

Revolution does look pretty lame though, I'll admit.

>>379584387
The chuuni hand might be a bit much, perhaps. Maybe just a bit.

>>379584446
But no one calls VC1 some grim war story that takes itself seriously. Are you okay?

>>379584117
>Moving the goalpost
Wow...so this is the power...of pure retardation...

>>379584704
it was the edgy edition

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What if they took the real Hitler and put him in Valkyria Chronicles? And then made him a teacher in VC2.

>>379584446
in all the parts you excluded for your strawman argument

such as Rosie's struggles with her hatred for Darcsen, Selvarias past, the encounter with the Imp soldiers at the cabin, and Isaras death, because guess what, its a fucking war and your loved ones will die, and there is no point and reason for it, if anything if no characters died you would use that as a point agaist VC1

>>379584704
VC3 did have some of those, but taking away the focus from Selvaria and giving your supporting cast actual personalities, backstories, and character specific missions to develop them further removes quite a few of those.

>>379573148
>kr
Are they using Swedish currency?

>>379584704
No unless you count Eddy and Jane guest appearances and that random DLC side mission where you face the final boss with Eddy's detachment instead of your normal VC3 party.

>>379585132
danish

isnt it set in denmark?

everyone who says bad stuff about VC3 never played it because they didnt own a psp or were too lazy to emulate

everyone who says bad stuff about VC1 is remembering the the anime instead of the game

everyone who says bad stuff about VC2 is right

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>>379584387
Heh, a giant sword? Cute. I had a giant sword, before all of my friends were slaughtered in front of my eyes. Then I grew up and learned to live only for revenge. Come back when you graduate to a giant GUNSWORD, kid.

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So like is everyone a Valkyrie in this game now?

Or is ragnite some sort of performance enhancing drug?

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>>379585365
oh god

that TOO MUCH ANIME FOR MEEE!!

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>>379585283
Valkyria 2 wasn't bad, more just lacking. I can see why people who like a war setting wouldn't like it, but the game as a whole is fine, and it's not like I started playing VC for anything other than standard anime stuff.

>>379585132
>>379585191

Gallia is a fantasy stand-in for Belgium

>>379585479
Why? The only thing anyone even knows about Belgium is that they make chocolate. Where even is Belgium?

>>379585479
but VR is set in Jutland this time

>>379585027
Isara's death was fucking pointless. So pointless that even Welkin didn't give a fuck for more than a few seconds.
That whole scene was incredibly dumb.
>shoot this dark hair instead of the enemy commander
Everything about how darcens are handled was laughably bad and actually somewhat insulting.

Rosie's development was also piss poor. A bully who sees the error of her ways and words thanks to the death of the person giving her these conflicted feelings.
Everyone could have seen that coming and she's just another archetype.

>>379585538
Both Holland and Belgium had the same kind of Neutrality stance as Gallia, both had mandatory Military training for their people. Unlike Sweden, which was never attacked or invaded, both Holland and Belgium were invaded in WW2 and Belgium was invaded during WW1, It was Germany going into Belgium in the first World war that brought Britain into the conflict, since Britain had a treaty with Belgium guaranteeing her neutrality in the event she was attacked.

Also, the windmills of Bruhl are a big giveaway that the script writers were thinking of the Flanders area when they thought this all up. Plus, there are more war cemeteries and mass military graves throughout Belgium and Holland then you will find in Sweden. The Area around Ypres has been more contested in European history then many other places on earth.

>>379582371
It's dead because Sega is stupid.

>>379584681
>getting called out for shit taste
>muh gays
Even fatal pulse is better.

>>379586129
>getting called out for shit taste
>muh>muh gays
>>>/lgbt/

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So /v/, who are your favorite units?

Riela, Imca, Aliasse, Alfons, Wavy, Wendy, and Elysse are mine.

>>379585479
>>379585191
VC 1-3 had "DCT" which I always assumed meant Ducats. Was just curious what the full name of "kr" is in this game.

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>>379586498
>favorite units
>faggot cancer anime game

This series was always overrated but it at least deserved better than this.

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>>379586498
Aliasse is the best, but I also like Zeri, Kurt, Julianna, and Welkin alot.

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>yet another trenchcoat wearing sword wielding edgelord with short spiky black hair

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>>379586858
The way I saw Julianna posted here I always assumed she was a villain and possibly a Valkyria. When I played the game I thought she would go "man, fuck this school for accepting Darcsens" and defect at some point. Instead she died for the Darcsen D.

>>379583269
The VC3 pic had me cracking up for some reason.
Still need to get to that.

>>379572865
>jewess

NFL 2K5 released for $20, and is still considered one of the best sports games ever.

>>379569356
Redpill me on this game.

Is it actually bad? I've always considered it to just be a spinoff. Are fans just going into an autistic rage because it's a different genre, or is the game just not fun?

>>379569356
>the xbone finally gets a jrpg besides FFXV
>it's this garbage
Lmao

>>379588710
It's fucking horrible. Try the demo yourself.

>>379583269
VC 3 is odd because it's half-gritty realism and half-goofy JRPG stuff, mostly on the villain isde

>>379583287
Even in VC2 swords were pretty pointless unless you used Fencer Avan as a boss killer.

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>Love VC 1 for the presentation and story but gameplay-wise it's an unbalanced clusterfuck that punishes you for not Scout-rushing
>Love VC2's gameplay and suprising amount of balance until Shocktroopers dominate lategame but hate the haremshit and the school crap
>Played VC3 one day when it was translated
>It has all the more serious aspects of VC1 coupled with a more balanced version of VC2's gameplay, it even manages to have less goofy anime stuff than VC1
>Easily the best in the series
>VC1fags refuse to play it and hate on it for mundane reasons like a piece of official art when in game, you have almost no sword-using units and the sword class is garbage anyway

Not to mention Kurt is based as fuck.

>>379591248
I was kinda ambivalent about Kurt early on then he got fucking mad and just grabbed the candy jar and I couldn't stop laughing at his stress response, and it won me over.
Also Irma and MALNUTRITION.

>>379591620
Not to mention FUCKING PEASANTS PUTTING FILTHY CHILI SAUCE ON MY SUPERIOR COOKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379591852
I've been watching a friend stream it and just saw that part today, that was fucking great.
Also I meant Imca but hurr durr tired.