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Will it ever be topped?
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>>379430375
i unfortunately doubt it
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>>379430375
Yes.
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>>379430375
It's one of my favorite games, if not my absolute favorite.

And no. I don't think it will. Not because it can't, but because the will for it is dying.
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A man can hope
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>>379430941
Edgy poles have nothing on Obsidibros.
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RPGs with real choices and consequences are harder and harder to find. The late 2000s had a few good ones but now there ain't shit.
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>>379430375
Regarding Fallout, no. FNV was a fluke and no modern Fallout game will come close, unless of course Bethesda suddenly loses the license.

There are better RPGs out there though.
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>>379430375
It was 2 years before it's release
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>>379430941
>those clean and futuristic streets
there's nothing "punk" about that image, it's just generic sci-fi
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>>379431373
You are so wrong.
Fallout 3 is alright, but it's nowhere near as good as 1, 2 or NV. It's barely even a Fallout game. Still better than 4 though.
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>>379431441
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
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New Vegas is a weird game in that it's littered with bugs and problems yet none can seem to take away from the overall quality of the game. I can make a giant list of the things I dislike about it yet I would rate it as a 9/10 or higher easily.
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>>379431634
>Still better than 4 though.
In what way?
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>>379431848
explain then
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>>379431928
no infinite quest garbage
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>>379430941
Nah, they don't know how to make a masterpiece like NV. They will just try to remake TW3.
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>>379431919
Because certain design aspects of an RPG are way more important than everything else. It's why games like Skyrim are utter garbage no matter how many mods you install because they improve all the aspects that are not part of the core design philosophy of a proper RPG.
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Literally FO4 is better. Idk why the fuck you retards pretend it isnt true.
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>>379430941

It's going to be bland, cliched mediocre borefest like the other cyberpunk revival games. Screencap this.
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>>379431928
At least 3 gives you the option to be evil and the sidequests are overall better than fo4. Not to mention you never get spammed with radiant quests.
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>want to play again
>played through the first part too many times
>don't want to skip it or use alternate start because of the exp
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>>379432178
>like the other cyberpunk revival games

Like what?
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>>379432158
it was a slightly improved engine with slightly improved gunplay, everything else was trash
if they just remade NV in the fo4 engine it would have been billions better
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>>379432225
Fair enough, I guess.
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>>379432158

>The objectively bad game everyone, including the developers, forgot existed because even the mods can't fix it is literally better

ok kiddo here's a (You) i'm feeling generous today
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>>379431919
It's just a testament to the game's quality and I feel the exact same way. The game's positives outweigh its negatives so much they're almost meaningless. Fuck me I love this game so much
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>>379431928
It's frankly a better RPG, which ultimately should be the deciding factor when both games are marketed as an RPG. More choices, no voice protagonist, slightly better characters and story, better side quests, better exploration.

Lore wise they are both as bad as 4 is merely an extension of the stupid shit thrown at us during 3.

The big decider for me personally is that 3 has better DLC. Well actually only TWO of the DLCs in 3 are good, the rest of them are as bad, if not worse than 4's.

Don't give me the combat shit because it's dogshit in both games. I would honestly say 3's is better because of how completely underwhelming and crappy the animations of in 4. To this day I have no idea why people say 4 has better combat than NV.
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>>379432226

Just install the different starting locations mod.
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>>379432271
>everything else was trash

Such as??? Its literally the same shit as FO3, which is similar to NV. But with improved gunplay and engine like you mentioned. Along with Graphics and other little improvements.
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>>379432271
Lets cross our fingers this motherfucker doesn't burn out making this.

https://youtu.be/KAJ4-03Bz84
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>>379432226
Here is an idea, let the DLC define you.
>create a character
>loot up Goodsprings
>teleport yourself over to any of the DLC entrances and start it
I did this with HH, and my character ended up becoming a tribal/survivalist who uses a combat shogun as his trusted weapon, because frankly it was the best weapon I had which dealt with beasts and white legs.
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>>379432235

Deus Ex HR and MD, Sattelite Reign and other assorted Steam trash.
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>>379431941
Not him but you're flat out retarded if you think cyberpunk means "grungy dirty streets".
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>>379432596
>its NV with worse gunplay and subpar RPG mechanics
Just get a texture pack and an ENB filter for fuck sake.
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>>379432506

>Such as???

Quest????? Story???? Characters???????? Gimped RPG mechanics???????????????? Empty, uninteractive world?????????????????? You know, things that matter in an RPG series you fucking underage summerfag retard????????????????????
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>>379432619
Deus Ex HR and Satellite Reign were solid games.
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>>379432790

Yeah, "solid" being a universally recognized euphemism for cliched mediocrity.
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>>379432747
Are you really going to pretend NV has better gunplay than 4? I mean NV is my favorite but come on. And they aren't changing the RPG mechanics you sperg.
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>>379432506
It's not quite the same shit as fo3. That game didn't have nearly as much ammo and stimpaks as fo4. You rack up 500+ ammo every time you clear a place out and almost all enemies drop a stimpak. There's never a point where you feel weak or helpless at all.
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>>379430375
Fallout 4 already beats this piece of shit because the gameplay is good
>Muh dialogue
VIDEO GAMES need good gameplay, BOOKS and MOVIES need DIALOGUE fuck off back to
>>>/lit/
>>>/tv/
With this piece of shit "game"
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>>379433026
Gayest post itt.
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>>379432972
I'm not pretending, I generally believe the gun play is better in NV. The ugly animations completely drag me out of the game in 4, that and everything else.
>And they aren't changing the RPG mechanics you sperg.
If they are using 4 as the basis, then yes, obviously they are by proxy of it being on a slightly different engine which handles RPG mechanics (namely stuff like dialogue) differently.
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What's the best way to make DUST tolerable? is it even worth it? At the moment I've found that its full of such retarded bullshit that it isn't even worth it.
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>>379433279
Don't get pissy I'm calling out how obsidishit games are movies like telltale and naughty dog crap
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>>379430375
It depends.
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>>379430375
It already was
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>>379432972
not that guy, but i also think that. i kept hearing about how improved the combat was in fallout 4 but when i finally got around to trying it, it was the same bullet sponge bullshit except this time everything looked and sounded like it was made of plastic, the animations were fucking abysmal, and the iron sights were too large to be accurate reliably. literally just new vegas but worse, i dont understand what people drool over
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>>379433494
>RPGs aren't games because they focus on story
I guess silent movies aren't films because they have no dialogue.
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>>379432372
I've been playing it on PC for the first time and there's so many things that get on my nerves but I still love the fuck out of it.

>try to be an evil character
>cant keep my karma at very evil because i kill fiends and feral ghouls and constantly get good karma
>wipe out NCR soldiers as soon as I see them and activate ARCHIMEDES
>vilified
>tell Ranger Andy that RSC was wiped out by Legion
>Merciful Thug
?????
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>>379433421
Check through the DUST mods to see if there's anything to fix the problems you're having with it.

I don't really like DUST but the story about how the mojave came to be in the state it is can be quite interesting.
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>>379433494
Real RPGs have lots of dialog and explain the world in detail like NV. They don't just say these are the bad guys because they're bad
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>>379432771
>Quest
Okay NV has slightly better quests. And? Neither are fucking great

>Story
Again BOTH are bad. But okay. NV has a slightly better one... for whatever thats worth

>Characters
How? Both are forgetable. This is pretty equal

>Gimped RPG mechanics
What the fuck? Since when are we pretending NV had deep RPG mechanics? Bethesda hasn't had deep RPG mechanics in forever

>Empty, uninteractive world
Empty? How? Definitely not any more than NV. F03 was probably the best in this regard

And as far as uninteractive, fucking how is it worse than NV?
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>>379433693
install jsawyer, it removes easy karma for things such as killing fiends and ghouls
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>>379430375
I'm at Novac right now, the game is honestly kinda boring. When does it become good?
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>>379433786
Yeah, that's why I want to play it, its just a shame the author filled it with so much artificial difficulty.
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It was already topped by fallout 1 and 2
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>>379433848
They both had good companions. Boone, Cass, and Veronica for FNV and pretty much every companion in F4
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>>379433928
It opens up when you get to NV. Consider the journey to NV as act one that introduces you to the main factions and whatnot.
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>>379433693
At least karma has no real effect in Fallout NV except for the endings and companions.
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>>379434089
But I'm already in Nevada, anon.
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>>379433848
Did you play either? Have you played any previous Fallout game? Hell, have you ever played an RPG before?

Who am I kidding, this was clearly bait.
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>>379432158
>retard who likes shooting shit but doesnt care about the story
well, summer is here!
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>>379430375
You get topped every night fag.
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>>379432972
>no on the fly repair system
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>>379433928
Once you hit level 15 or so and the character you're role playing as finally starts to come into form.
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>>379433347
Objectively, 4 has better gunplay than New Vegas but New Vegas has better combat than 4. The problem is that people think gunplay and combat are the same, they're not. Gunplay is how the game feels and controls during combat, combat is how all the gameplay mechanics come together. New Vegas has the DT system and tons of different ammo types that mesh well together like AP rounds for high DT, HP rounds for low DT, Hand Loader recipes, etc as well as basic DR. In Fallout 4 you can literally kill a Mythic Deathclaw with a 10mm pistol because there is no DT system. That's stupid.
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>>379432596
Looks like complete garbage.
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OWB > DM >> LR >>> HH
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>>379434347
>ranking LR above anything
Shit taste

>putting OWB at the top
Nevermind, Reddit. Go back to where you came from.
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>>379433693
Also,

>wipe out every soldier at Hoover Dam without uttering a word
>go to Mojave Outpost
>"hey, what can I do for you? "
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>>379434203
New Vegas not Nevada
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>>379434347
DM > HH = OWB >>> LR
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>>379434319
Not to mention that unarmed is completely pointless in 4 and melee choice is so gimped that there's not a whole lot of point to it either.
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>>379433650
They aren't, silent film are just long tv shows
>>379433804
GAMEPLAY IS WHAT MAKES A VIDEO GAME A GAME
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>>379433928
It's a lot slower than FO3. Take your time, explore the world and talk to the people. If you're the type of player who skims through dialogue while asking when the action starts, you won't have much fun.
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>>379430941
Never ever
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>>379430941
PERSONAL
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>>379434347
DM > OWB > HH >>> LR
Honest Hearts could have easily been the best if it was actually finished.
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>>379434471
>t. shitter who gets hard to edgy stuff
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Speaking of honest hearts, has anyone tried the honest hearts reborn mod? Is it any good?
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>>379434553
this guy gets it
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>>379434895
>who gets hard to edgy stuff
You're the one who put LR above anything.
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>>379434210
>literally 0 counter points

Kek thats what I thought
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>>379435043
>t. illiterate
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MFW I open The Art of Fallout 4.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzxNZWWqyX42R0xtSkJoQ0wzeTA

Look at all of that wasted potential.
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>>379434826
Maybe. As it is the map is fucking empty and the only thing it has going for it is Joshuha.
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>>379435118
Allow me to explain since you're baiting for (You)s and never played the DLC. If I got hard to edgy stuff, I would have liked LR instead of putting it at the very bottom. The only illiterate person here is you.

>>379435404
>As it is the map is fucking empty
It actually isn't if you go exploring like you're meant to. Most people don't. They just rush the DLC quest and leave.
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>>379434952
it's shit. maybe worth a try just to see what it's like but for fuck's sake dont try to take a serious character through there for the roleplay
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>>379434952
has anyone tried the honest hearts reborn mod?
Yes.
Is it any good?
No. Credit where credit is due, the mod clearly took time to make and in terms of what the amount of stuff it added, it's not too bad. The actual content is fucking abysmal. Let me run you through my experience.
>hear about this mod which apparently adds the much needed Legion option; decide to install it
>Legion actually has presence in Zion, so far so good
Then suddenly out of nowhere
>White legs are now the Bloodstones
>Follows Chalk and Daniel no longer exist
>nor do the Dead Horses or Sorrows
>Graham has no mask on, his face doesn't lip sinc properly and they have rerecorded his voice and it sounds like a 14 year old rasping into the mic
>Graham now leads a tribe called "The Burned Men" who attack you on and all for some reason wear the bandage mask that Graham normally has
>There is no true Legion option; you work undercover to remove the self insert Legion commander who has bright green hair for some reason
>Salt Upon Wounds is now a woman because reasons
>Randal Clarke is not mentioned once and all the stuff to do with him is gone
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>>379435509
So you're actually a fucking idiot who can't read.
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>>379435692
Are you that same retard that had to have basic literary concepts broken down in the FO4 thread yesterday? It would explain why you're calling people illiterate.
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>>379434319
Exactly. Not to mention that NV is nearly gunporn at vanilla state and literally gunporn modded, while FO4 weapons are designed by a man who seems to not only not understand how guns work but actively believe that they work different and trying to enforce that belief.
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>>379435559
This doesn't surprise me. On a related note, anyone played that path to Zion mod that doesn't replace the entire DLC?
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>>379435559
lad the mod does a lot of shit terribly but you just didnt pay attention.

the mod author for some reason basically replaced the survivalist terminals with terminals from daniel, and when you help heal joshuas burns you get to see what happened to him that's being alluded to in the terminals. that was one of the most okay parts of the whole thing imo

i agree though, the concepts of having new canaanites and legion in the valley were good, but he also decided to block off huge chunks of the valley and make new tribes and companions instead of use the old ones

joshua doesnt lead those burned men btw, the basically follow the supermutant that worships joshua for being nice to him and then got all the burned men to follow him because they all think he's so amazing when he really just sits above them on his little perch and doesnt acknowledge them. decent potential but executed pretty badly
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>>379434319
new vegas has better gunplay than fallout 4 by that definition. gunplay has to do with how the GUNS and weapons feel during combat. in new vegas they feel like they have weight and are powerful, in fallout 4 everything looks and sounds and feels like its made of plastic
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>>379435840
Nope. And please, at least put some effort into your posts. Your grammar is also pretty horrible.
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>>379436342
>starts a sentence with a conjunction
>says others have poor grammar
Last (You) you're getting
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>>379430941
Wish it was an Obsidian 3D game instead with the same setting/idea.
They've just proven to be far better at making role-playing experiences than CDPR with Witcher, but I still hold hope.
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>>379436334
Monster of the West.
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>>379436334
>When you know you can take a loud mouth nigger but still have to deal with his hoodlum posse
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>>379436460
>he thinks his public college writing style suggestions are proper grammar

It really shouldn't be so fun to bully retards like this, but it is.
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>>379436334
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>>379433848
>dude both games suck so they're the same lmao
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>>379436460
Dude when is the last time you read a book. Famous authors start sentences with conjunctions all the time.
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>>379436953
>Famous authors start sentences with conjunctions all the time
Famous authors also end sentences with prepositions. That doesn't make either grammatically correct.
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>>379436825
You got knocked the fuck out, son!
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Will Beth learn from FO4? They kinda got shit for it.
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>>379431373
This
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>>379432158
4 is the only Fallout game I've enjoyed.
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>>379436953
It's one of the first things you get taught when you take a writing course in college because it's "bad style", so you know where that came from. Of course, it's a pile of bullshit and every sane person laughs about stuff like this.
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>>379430375
Do I have to register to that shitty nexusmods site to download mods and how did that site manage to hold the mod community hostage? Anyway do I even need mods for the regular experience, would not download idiotic crap anyway.
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>"vegas" has like 5 buildings total

This ruined the game for me honestly.
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>>379436839
>implying NV isn't just Fallout 3 with more bugs, more brown and more writing
>>379434210
I have played both, and while NV had slightly better writing, it in no way is great and in no way makes it better than 3 outside of said comparison.
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>>379436462
New Vegas Obsidian is not the same as the current Obsidian. Besides, while Obsidian is great at writing, dialogue, world building etc. they are awful at the technical side of things, doubly so with 3D projects.
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>>379437249
>shitty nexusmods
What's shitty about it? I love having mods in one centralized easy-to-search location. If you ever modded something like Sims 1 in the early 2000s, you know how scattered those things got.

>>379437249
>hold the mod community hostage
I don't even know what you mean.
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>>379437715
Try downloading something from Nexus without an account, see what happens.
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>>379431373
I always felt NV was basically just the same game by a company that knew the series better.
3 is enjoyable but NV is top tier

4 made me cynical for the future of everything as a whole
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>>379437249

I played completely vanilla even without bug fix shit for years and still loved it.

I highly, highly recommend YUP, NVAC, and stutter remover though. I wouldn't be able to go back now.
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>>379437802
Have you even been to gun network? Nexus is nothing compared to that.
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>>379434553
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>>379430375
I know this game is overrated on /v/ but I still go back and play it every 3 years or so.
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>>379437802
What exactly happens? I've never had any issues.
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>>379434553
DM>LR>HH>>>>>>>>>>>>OWB
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>>379438104
Literally nothing. He's a sperg that doesn't now how to click the download manually button.
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>>379437986
And textures and shit, anything mandatory?
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>>379435076
you not understanding niche things and wanting everything to be for Shoot n Loot loving normies is the counter point.

go back to posting muh name jeff on facebook you retarded faggot
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>>379432610
Aren't all the DLCs end game content with high level enemies? I've played all of them all the way through except for honest hearts which I stopped at the beginning of and all of them had either bullet sponges or enemies with good kit.
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>>379438019
lol another register site

fuck off
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>>379437249
Which game?
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>>379438348

they scale with you

they're actually easier to do mid game than they are if you do them when you're maxxed out after everything else
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>>379437715
I sure love missing out on potentially good mods like a ghost people apocalypse when their authors get banned.
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>>379438410
You're the one complaining about registering. Normally I'd say fuck off to reddit but I'm sure you'd bitch about needing to register there too.
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>>379438302
OK.
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>>379438321

NMC textures, Vanilla UI Plus, maybe RWL or Clarity or something to remove the piss filter

those along with the bug/utility mods are all I'd install if it's your first time playing
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>>379438128
>LR that high
But why?
It has the worst encounter design of all the DLC, the only real character is a pretentious fuckwit, the associated perks are all bad, and it needlessly and intrusively complicates the courier's backstory. The only thing it does right is the loot.
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>>379438731
>register for a free account
yeah too much work desu
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>>379433026
>download (3).jpg
>shit b8
>reddit-tier spacing

you've achieved the shit trifecta, congrats fag
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>>379438956
>talking about the problems on nexus without an account
>anon 1: "what problems?"
>anon 2: "non the guy's just an idiot lel"
>show what happens without an account
>anon 2: "well why don't you just make an account!"
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>>379439352
gb2r
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>>379439302
>reddit-tier spacing
Uhh... what?
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How come when I try to do the final battle at Hoover Dam as Legion, General "I'm Fucking Invincible" Oliver tries to fight me instead of retrating to the top floor with all his gay power armor fags?
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>>379439486
>n-no, reddit
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>>379438128
I never understood, why are dead money and lonesome road rated so highly? Imo in a pure content per dollar they offered a lot less because of their linear nature (yeah you could explore in DM but Elijah will chimpout and blow up your neck unless you know exactly what to do and when). HH anf OWB may be lacking in story, but at least they add enough content to justify their price, with relatively large new areas to explore.
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>>379438324
>all this deflection

Jesus christ... just stop anon.
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>>379440127
Dead Money is rated highly because of the message. LR doesn't make any sense outside of loot and lore.
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>>379432016
>no infinite quest garbage
Oh god, this.
Fuck those settlements already.
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>>379432158
Please. I couldn't even finish fallout 4 and I've played new vegas numerous times. I never get tired of it.
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>>379431373
3 is genuinely garbage.
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>>379440127
I like DM mostly because of the atmosphere and nice bits of lore it adds to the game. Gameplay is a huge shift from the base game and isn't all that great. Feels more like a clunky survival horror game. OWB had the best map and the story isn't that randumb after a while. Good stuff. LR and HH where mostly tiring though the survivalist notes touched some of my funny spots.
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>>379440242

I found the companions very enagaging, but the message was very lacking

>hurr durr let go
>mfw cucking elijah out of all the gold by sticking it on his dismembered corpse
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If they let Memesidian make another Fallout game, then maybe.
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>>379440502
The overall message of the DLC is the overarching message of the game.

>>379440542
Everyone except Sawyer and Urquhart moved on from Obsidian. They'd be best off giving it to inXile.
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>>379434347
DM > LR > OWB = HH
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>>379434347
DM > OWB > LR > HH
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>>379440467
I'm not going to dispute that NV is a superior game to 4, but I felt like far harbor was superior to every dlc in NV.

>lore and story is better than rest of the game (not saying much lul)
>actual meaningful moral and idealogical choices in story
> massive, atmospheric, and engaging open world, bigger than that of any fallout dlc I think
>fun enemies, weapons, loot, and combat
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>>379440502
They don't mean the gold though, the gold is just a physical example of the message.
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>>379436825
>Mojave Space Program

This is House's dream.
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Should i buy the ultimate edition in gog or it is cheaper in the steam sale?
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>>379441114
We don't know if the gog version is compatible with some of the bigger mods.
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I would love for New Vegas to be surpassed as the greatest video game of all time but I can't see it happening in my lifetime.
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>>379441226
wait really? damm that sucks, oh well waiting for the summer sale it is.
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>>379441114
the gog sale was 50% off it sold for 10 bucks
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>>379441114
It's twenty dollars, it's cheap enough that you should just get it regardless.
Also consider the fact that gog is DRM free so you can drop it on a flashdrive or external hard drive and use it on ANY computer immediately, also silly things can happen like getting logged out of your steam account before the internet goes out.
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>>379441473
Should be sometime in the next two weeks.
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>>379441226
The only problem I had with my temporary borrowed version was the 4gig ram mod which required steam. The devs somehow assumed I was pirating. Ridiculous.

I can imagine the gog version has the same problem.
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>>379441625
>Also consider the fact
Yeah but you should also consider>>379441226

Mods like TTW literally do not work on pirated versions and it's likely that the gog version would be the same.
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>>379441787
>TTW

Pretty sure I got that working.
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Post some lists of mods to make the game look pretty. I did 3 play throughs earlier in the year on a 2010 PC, I got some upgrades and I'm ready for the game to look fancy. I've never done any of the DLCs for more than 5 minutes and I want them to look good.
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>>379441878
Probably the previous version which did not implement piracy protection.
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>>379430375
No.

Bethesda is actively watering down their games and they arent about to outsource their IP's anymore, seeing as Obsidian blew them the fuck out...
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>>379441787
>Mods like TTW literally do not work on pirated versions
From what I hear it sounds like it's hit or miss
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>>379430375
not in the fallout universe, but there is definitely room for improvement
as great as new vegas is, there is a lot that was cut to meet deadlines
there's always going to be the potential for a better written video game
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>>379441970
Look up Fear and Loathing in New Vegas. It's a pretty basic mod guide with all the bells and whistles. I use bits and pieces of it, skipping overhaul mods like Project Nevada because I don't personally like them. Alternatively, Gopher has a very entry level mod guide on youtube.
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>>379441992
Yeah, it's been a bit. Do you know what kind of protection they use?
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Who won the lottery?
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>>379442209
I DID
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>>379442197
Iirc, the new installer actually scans the game folders to make sure they came from Steam.
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>>379433848
>Bethesda hasn't had deep RPG mechanics in forever

Exactly that's why NV is leaps and bounds ahead of 3 and 4
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>>379442309
That is completely retarded.
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>>379442209
>>379442257
EEEEYEAH! SMELL THAT AIR!
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>>379440620

I disagree with this heavily. The three factions who cannot let go (House-old world methods, NCR-old world values, Legion-old world stories) all are capable of providing a good ending, arguably one better than the only ending that does let go and forges a new future.

For christs sake half the game is about vengeance on a man who shot you and it rewards you for doing so with a valuable unique weapon, one of the best clothing items in the game, and the power to determine the fate of the wasteland. Imo the vibe I got is that it does not matter who you side with as long as you are a good person and try to do what's right because the quality of the main ending is centered soley around the player's karma.
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>>379442648
Don't look at me, I don't work on the mod. It seems to work though.
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>>379442790
COULDN'T YA JUST DRINK IT LIKE BOOOOOOOOOOOZE?
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>>379432972
Not him but the only thing Fallout 4 has over vanilla (I must stress vanilla, there's plenty of great mods for NV to make the combat infinitely better) New Vegas is the "feel". It's hard to explain fully but in Fallout 4 shooting guns just feels nice in the same way that shooting guns feels nice in Call of Duty and enemies in F4 also react to what's happening as the battle goes on. But it terms of balance, enemy variety and encounter variety, even vanilla NV shits all over Fallout 4.
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>>379443163
Fun fact: the gunplay in Fallout 4 was outsourced to id Software.
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>>379431373
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>>379442836
>I disagree with this heavily
Well, you can take it up with Sawyer and Avellone because they shit all over your argument.

>try to do what's right because the quality of the main ending is centered soley around the player's karma
All karma does is shift how the faction you sided with views you. Nothing more, nothing less. Other than that, it does nothing. The ending is still the same regardless. The only exception is Yes Man.
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>>379431441
>there's nothing "punk" about that image

Plus you work for the cops in the game. Instead of hacking and breaking into things to avoid the authority, you hunt down rogue cyborgs.
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i wish to breed with this angry bitch and take responsibility by loving her every day for the rest of our lives
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3>NV>>>>>>4
sorry Todd
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>>379443163
>But it terms of balance, enemy variety and encounter variety, even vanilla NV shits all over Fallout 4.

Isn't this mainly due to fallout 4 tying enemies to level cap though? I feel like fallout 4's actual enemy types were more plentiful (though maybe less iconic) and fallout 4 also used more named enemies with special tactics, movesets, and properties (ie swan).
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>>379442931
Bye
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>>379431373
Fallout 3 is a strange game. I spend ~50 hours in it and can't remember much. It's probably the video game equivalent of smoking crack all day. It's all vain but somehow I couldn't stop.
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>>379443727
>I feel like fallout 4's actual enemy types were more plentiful
Nope. They reskinned a bunch of enemies and turned them into new "types" which were tied to a rubber-band level cap, but it has fewer actually differentiated enemies than NV or 3 before DLCs.

>more named enemies with special tactics, movesets, and properties
Actually, it's only dependent upon what type of enemy they are. Swan fights like any other behemoth.
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>>379443448
>Play as police
>Choose to only convict black people
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>>379433026
You are trying WAY to hard to fit in.
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>>379444016
>actually differentiated enemies than NV or 3 before DLCs.
Again, I did note that enemy types were less iconic. Pretty certain 3 had even less.

>Swan fights like any other behemoth.
Doesn't the swan fight totally overturn the concept of fighting a behemoth though? with he way behemoth fights are typically structured, the player is taught to initiate on them, from a distance, with stealth and a fat man. The fact that swan gets the jump on you in a semi enclosed space massively changes the dynamic of the fight.
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>>379435282
Its always depressing looking at Bethesda games concept art. The art is always amazing looking but their engine is to shit to handle any of it.
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>>379443906
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>>379444803
Delete this
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>>379444803
You can see how progressive this picture is.
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>>379444803
thanks for reminding me why the human race needs to be sterilized
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>>379430375
Maybe if they used the same wasteland concept with some other idea like the cowboy set
Maybe fuse it with the Miami latino gangster ideal or whatever
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>>379443550
pls post the rest or my dad's gonna kill me
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>>379444803
>tumblr potato nose
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>>379444652
>Again, I did note that enemy types were less iconic. Pretty certain 3 had even less
New Vegas has 100 differentiated creatures in the base game. 3 has 43. 4 only has 28.

>Doesn't the swan fight totally overturn the concept of fighting a behemoth though? with he way behemoth fights are typically structured, the player is taught to initiate on them, from a distance, with stealth and a fat man. The fact that swan gets the jump on you in a semi-enclosed space massively changes the dynamic of the fight.
You realize you can attack Swan first, yes? You don't need to wait for him to aggro. In fact, Swan is even easier to engage than a normal behemoth because of how easy his attacks are to dodge. He's soloable with a few chems from at least level 7 because crippling any limb makes him unable to attack. His attacks are the exact same as a normal behemoth though. The only actual differences between Swan and a Behemoth is that he has more resistances due to the boat armor and he wields an anchor instead of a hydrant.
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Fallout 3 is better, i rly dont get this new vegas faggotry, it wasnt even a good game
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>>379434347

OWB>HH>DM>LR

I've got a soft spot for Honest Hearts. The setting is really comfy, I like the tribals and Randall Clarke's diaries are the best writing in the whole damned game. That said I do wish there was more to do there, particularly after you finish the questline. If the caravan company set up a little trading post there after the main quest and you could move into one of the fishing cabins it would be a fun setting to dick around in.
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>>379445143
sawao, my dude
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>>379444803
When did Miss Frizzle get yoked?
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>>379445214
Just because you played fallout 3 as a kid doesn't make it good.
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>>379445296
absolutely based
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>>379430375
Say what you want but bethesda has been very forward about their mistakes making fo4. we'll be getting back classic dialogue, the skill system, a decent plot. I'm unironically sure bethesda will do a good job with 5.


I'm gonna hold on before buying it though, just in case
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>>379430375
2 and 1 are both better. if you mean games released after new vegas, probably not as long as bethesda holds the license
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>>379445429
Source? The only response from Bethesda I've seen is Pete Hines sperging out on twitter.
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>>379439302
>>379444579
>NV fags can't respond to facts, just shit out "UR STUPID"
Hmm
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>>379445429
>very forward about their mistakes making fo4

Really? that's surprising. Can you give more infos or links?

I don't trust Bethesda. Maybe they'll fix some things but they're going to fuck up even more. The formula pays off and I don't see while they would stop.
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>>379445429
Source on that? Todd vaguely acknowledged there were issues with their new dialogue system but it was nothing to do with voiced protag and skills etc
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>>379445429

>we'll be getting back classic dialogue

The dialogue was a disaster so I think they'll almost certainly go back to the classic there.

>the skill system

I hope they recognize that nixxing skills was a huge mistake and bring it back; but the game sold well and the normies like having things dumbed down for them so who knows.

>a decent plot.

Hahaha, its Bethesda dude. No chance of that.
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>>379445429

Unless I see this shit and actually start seeing them hire in the writing department, * cough, cough * hire obsidian * Cough, * They aren't worth shit.

They must rebuild the bridge they burned in a bid to sell us boat tickets, fuck them otherwise.
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>>379430375
u mean bottomed
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>>379445672

Not the same dude; but I've read articles where they more or less admitted that the dialogue system was a mistake.

I haven't seen anything where they admitted that getting rid of skills or equipment deterioration was a mistake.

I think we all wish that we'd get New Vegas level's of complexity back (I really, really, miss ammunition types); but there's definitely a normie market for the dumbed down experience as much as we may hate it. My hope is that we get something like hardcore mode back so that they can have a dumbed down version for the slobbering masses and a complex version for the fans.
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>>379434347
LR > OWB = HH > DM
I like sand
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>>379446165
>My hope is that we get something like hardcore mode back so that they can have a dumbed down version for the slobbering masses and a complex version for the fans.

to be quite honest, fallout 4 survival mode was much more fun+challenging than new vegas hardcore mode, i hope they do something like that again, but also alter the balance of the game, by giving the player a suit of power armor to basically start the goddamn game, once you get some perks to maintain and mod it, survival stops being the "what is going to oneshot me today" experience it was pre-power armor.
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https://youtu.be/z-vABMIdm5Y
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>>379445559
>4 has barely passable gunplay
>this somehow makes up for every other aspect being shit
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>>379446165
Many of my normie and chad friends that also enjoy fallout come to the consensus that the dialogue was heaps better in 3 and nv. They also believe that the fallout 4 perk system was restrictive and less intuitive than that of 3 and nv (although they weren't a fan of traits).
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anyone try the Vulpes companion mod? I want to do a legion run this time around and it seems like it's a pretty popular mod.
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>>379446629
Vulpes Inculta without the awesome voice acting isn't all that cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpkxL7-PVZs&t=4s
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>>379446361
Am I the only one who prefered old power armor in the vein of 3 and nv? Its simpler to use when it just counts as apparel and all you need is a perk to use it. I'm pretty sure normies dont have the paitence to acquire fusion cores and know where and when to transport the armor
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>>379446629
I couldn't get it to work properly, I can recruit Vulpes but he won't actually follow me.
It also adds a very nice unique weapon in the Legion Safehouse, which is cool.
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>>379446629
THIS MACHINE KILLS PROFILGATES

btw there is a copy on the legion safehouse, dont kill vulpes for it.
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>>379446495
That's something I don't get. Basically every fanboy praises the gunplay and says it's the reason why the game is fun. That kind of gunplay is standard for the last 10 years though. Might as well play MW1 and call it a day.
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>>379433026
This, shit is boring as fuck
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>>379445746
>sequel has more stuff!
wew
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>>379433642

DELETE THIS NOW
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>>379446865
i liked FO4's ability to upgrade and customize the power armor, but i think it should have still been one solid armor piece with a removable helmet, and not separate pieces everywhere.
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>>379446846
The mod is fully voice acted though.
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>>379432972
Fallout 4s only mechanical change is human ai using cover dynamically, which is pretty much needed with the way 4s levels were designed, but isn't really necessary to New Vegas. Beyond that, the only changes it brought were cool sounds and flashy animations.
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>>379447202

And yet Fallout 4 exists.
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>>379433642
>the same bullet sponge shit
Why are you lying? Apart from Super Mutant Behemoths, everything died in less than five rounds on most guns.
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>>379448019
Don't forget to buy the Season Pass.
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Is he the strongest character in all of vidya?
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>change the title from Fallout 4 to Borderlands 3

Now everything's alright. Except the loot is too shit for a Borderlands game
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>>379448582
I never understood the easy pete meme. He's just an old fogey with an explosives check.
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>>379448961
>he doesn't know
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I'm sure i'm a minority, but does anyone else feel slightly disgusted that all the Images section in Nexus for this game is basically waifu crap? albeit some are actually ok screenshots . I mean, it's understandable to posts waifu's but making full comics and posting them is pretty silly. Seriously, some guy posted a mod that was just a PDF. Eh, probably the wrong place to ask this.

thanks for reading my blog
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>>379446165
>level of complexity

Honestly what was complex about NV? Yeah it had different ammo types but the game wasnt that complex. Not much more complex than FO4
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>>379449147

>Ammo types
>Skills
>Equipment condition and degradation
>You can't max everything
>Hardcore mode

Its not a super complex game by any means (having more control over commanding your squad would be nice improvement), its just not dumbed down like 4 was.
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>>379449431
>>You can't max everything
Think again, retard.
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>>379449431
>You can't max everything
What is the max possible statistics with all the dlc, skill books, max int, perfect build, etc?
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ARE THERE ANY GOOD CYBERPUNK VIDEO GAMES ANONS
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>>379449580

I mean I guess you can take Intense Training for damned near every perk and max all the SPECIALs to 10; but it would be a really retarded build.

>>379449592

Maxing all the skills is pretty easy.

You could max all the SPECIAL stats; but you'd be passing up a lot of perks that would be more useful than maxing SPECIAL.
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Honestly, I hated Fallout 4.
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>>379449676

The Shadowrun series isn't too shabby.
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>>379449994
You're forgetting about clinical implants. And outside of SPECIAL it's quite easy to max skills.
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>>379450080
Yes, as does every other NV worshipping faggot. Even I love NV over FO4, yet, I don't understand how people play NV for thousands of hours either. It's pretty basic, just not as simplistic as the retarded radiant quests in FO4.
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>>379450080
Was a sorry excuse for a fallout game, but it was still a pretty good game. If you treat it like a murder sandbox spinoff its enjoyable
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new vegas 2 when
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>>379449431
>Ammo types
I agree. The ammo types add some complexity ig. But its not overly complex so..

>Skills
The skills and perks arent really much more complex than fallout 4s perks

>Equipment condition and degradation
I thought stuff degraded in FO4 as well? Regardless this isnt really anything complex. Just something extra you have to keep an eye on

>You can't max everything
Pretty close. And regardless you become a killing god in both easily so its pretty redundant

>Hardcore mode
Honestly FO4s hardcore mode is arguably superior than NV.
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Are there commies in New Vegas?

I want to play an anti commie game
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>>379450194
this
it legitimately baffles me as to how someone can play a singleplayer game for this long. The only games where you ever see this much playtime are shooters and MOBAS
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>>379450403
just fucking murder the (((ncr)))
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>>379450383
>I thought stuff degraded in FO4 as well?
No
Power armor pieces have health but that's it.
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>>379446495
>>379447060
Yet it is more of a game than obshitian's telltale """game""'
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>>379450097

Not really, I plan out a stat maxing strategy before each play through because I have OCD over that shit.

My favorite build ends up with 8 Strength, 8 Perception, 8 Endurance, 6 Charisma, 9 Intelligence, 9 Agility and 6 Luck.

That includes the Implants and the boost to stats you get from Old World Blues and Lonesome Road.

I could throw more into SPECIAL; but that configuration lets me get all the perks I want and eventually you get to a point where you'd rather have more perks than more SPECIAL stats.
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>>379431919
New Vegas could be a VN and it'd be a 9/10
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>>379450742
Why do you put so much emphasis on PER and CHA? I thought the general consensus was that its more effective to dumpstat them and make up for it by tagging lp, speech, and either barter or a combat skill
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>>379450693
it's retarded shit son, and you are its audience
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>>379451002

There are some perks I like that require them that high. I can't tell you which ones they are off the top off my head.
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>>379433026
If you generally believe that than you are one boring fucking guy. I play games to be immersed. I'm guessing by "gameplay" which is a broad fucking term you are referring to combat. Combat is not enough for me to enjoy a game. If that was the case than I'd still be playing Blood or Ninja Gaiden Black to this day as they are the pinnacle of combat in games in both their fields. But I can't because I can only enjoy killing a group of enemies so much. I'd much rather find myself enthralled in a new living, breathing, responsive world. Games as a medium are so much more than just goblin killing simulators. You are solely limiting yourself to the most barebones a game can get by only playing games with good "gameplay" (combat).
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>>379431919
Because NVfags don't care about a running working game, they only like PROGRESSIVE ;) faggotshit that makes them a Mary Sue in vidya form
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>>379446238
man i love killing the legion for their coins
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>>379451073
>GAMEPLAY in a VIDEOGAME is retarded
>But muh movie game-tier CYOA story isn't ment for retarded aspies!!!
Kek, NVfags everyone
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>>379451556
You sound just like the mgsv has good gameplay people

Hint: it doesn't
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>>379451556
>all games must be about killing and beating up things
How's playing Doom for the hundredth time my man?
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>>379451690
The fact that people still make custom wads and play doom to this day speaks volumes
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>>379440842
Far Harbor did the plot of Fallout 4 better than the normal game did it.
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>>379451642
Of the things you might criticize MGSV for, gameplay is not one of them. In fact, the gameplay is fucking amazing. If you can think of it, you can more than likely do it in the game. It's great.
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>>379451642
>no arguments
>>379451690
>no arguments against any of my points
Enjoy your telltale-lite shit, even fucking weebshit like sagan kagura is more vidya than your CYOA crap
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>>379445746
>New vegas has 15 factions
Not exactly accurate, most of those are mentioned only.

And having blackjack and slots are a big plus? Who gives a shit?
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>>379451556
>>379452090
>pretending that nv has no gameplay
>being this desperate
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>>379452090
My argument is right here. All you've been doing is shit flinging like a baby
>>379451240
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>>379452019
Like a handfull of people. About same amount of people who regularly replay BG2, Planescape or Chrono Trigger.
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>>379437143
Suits never learn anything anon.
And when they say "we have learned our lesson and decided to give what the players want." It basically means "we got new money making schemes."
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>>379451240
Thank soulfags for translating gameplay to combat in every fucking game. Even so, NV has enough stuff to fuck up and you can play for hours without having to read 1 dialogue.
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>>379430941
GOD I am so fucking hype for this game.
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Wasteland 2 already topped it
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>>379432909
>>379432619
Deus Ex Human Revolution is literally one of the best games ever made. Shut up and fuck off thanks
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>>379452449
>only about 121 enemies in the game, can cheese most of them because NV is beyond broken
>>379452595
>muh immersion
>combat aka GAMEPLAY isn't good enough in a VIDEOGAME
Kill yourself faggot, go read a CYOA goosebumps book,it has the exact same shit as NV does
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>>379453283
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>>379436334
Man, that is a badass line.
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>>379453292
>implying that immersion, one of the few things that games have over other mediums is not a core part of one
Combat is only one part of gameplay. Gameplay is much more than just beating up nameless mods. It's about interaction. Whether that's about with a world, characters, enemies, or items is a result of the genre of game.

>Kill yourself faggot, go read a CYOA goosebumps book,it has the exact same shit as NV does
Grow the fuck up you little shit. What the fuck is up with this literal shit flinging? what are you in fifth grade?
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>>379453292
>i capitalize certain words so it doesn't appear like i'm a blubbering retard

Shit doesn't work.
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>>379443945
Fuck this happened to me with dragon age. I didn't particularly like the characters and didn't get blown away with the gameplay but goddamn I got enthralled with that game.
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>>379435282
wasn't fallout a game series really about the 1980's? and reagan-era nostalgia for the 50's (happy-days), etc... being used as a cover for nefarious and paranoid behavior by the government.
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I do not understand the love for New Vegas. I didn't like it. It was poorly balanced, was stylisticly confused, and too linear. The DLCs were good... For the most part. I disliked it not being open ended too. Especially when there wasn't a reason for it not to be. Speech was far too important. There is just a laundry list our stuff that bogs it down. Fo3 was tight. NV was just flopping around all over the place.
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>>379453921
this happens every time with crusader kings, have over 600hrs and have yet to play past a characters grand child
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>>379453292
>Kill yourself faggot, go read a CYOA goosebumps book,it has the exact same shit as NV does
Oh really? It seems like you are just parroting the /v/ contrarian meme that RPG's are bad because they aren't solely locked to killing mobs of enemies. Again games are about interaction, being enthralled into worlds whilst still having full control of myself. Books can't do this I can only observe what goes on I can't ever explore. Sure in CYOA's I can choose to go this path or this path. But what if I want to go halfway down this path, than cross through the woods to the other one to surprise attack a group of enemies? Or maybe I don't want to choose a path and maybe just climb the mountain by the side?
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>>379453617
>It's about interaction. Whether that's about with a world, characters, enemies, or items is a result of the genre of game.
AKA game mechanics, which RTS, FPS, and Racing games have which shit like reading fucking pages long dialogue isn't
>Grow the fuck up you little shit.
Said by an underage, "no one understands me" in the closet teeny bopper who thinks elementary tier CYOA shit is art
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>>379453920
No, it's to put emphasis on certain parts of a sentence since you aspie retards can't into sentences
>>379454057
>Again games are about interaction, being enthralled into worlds whilst still having full control of myself.
THEN READ VISUAL NOVELS OR CYAO BOOKS
Fucking retard, I bet you are either a NEET or a CS/CE major
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>>379438348
I've already been doing exactly that.
As something different I went straight east to the Abandoned BOS bunker and did DM from level 1. It wasn't really hard at all as well.

Almost right after I headed up to Zion and just finished it.
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>>379454175
>which shit like reading fucking pages long dialogue isn't
NV has about 5 sentences per dialogue at most. Are you fucking illiterate or something? Do you equate any game with dialogue to be some pre 2000 CRPG or something? Hell not even games like BG or Planescape had that much reading. You are just so fucking childish that you have to hyberbole any sort of reading in a game to be equal to reading a book.
I don't see what the fuck is so bad about games having dialogue? As long as the game isn't a fucking literal book it's fine. NV has plenty of combat, and plenty of directions you can choose in it. Melee, guns, explosives, energy, stealth, companions, etc.... Seriously list out some good games for me I'd love to hear about them.

>THEN READ VISUAL NOVELS OR CYAO BOOKS
Again I don't understand why immersion and choices gets you so fucking triggered. Seriously explain to me why games can not have these things.
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>>379454830
I guess he just hates games being open to the player and wants every game to be a carbon copy of Doom. The reason games like NV and BG are so replayable is due to the amount of freedom they give the player. Some playthroughs I help Goodsprings against the Powder Gangers, than walk my way to Primm to kill the gang in the hotel.Or maybe I slaughter Goodsprings and then use the slealth boys to sneak my way past the Deathclaws to Vegas praying to god they don't see me. Choices in games literally do nothing but good. It's the reason almost every person who plays Vegas has over 100 or 200 hours. Because the second you play through it you already want to see if you can do it another way. Down another route, go this way or that way, etc...
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>>379455391
Also the "muh go play a VN" doesn't mean shit because the only choices in those are whether to go down this path or this path. Most of the time having no difference other than. "This one is full of wolves and the second one is full of cats!".
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>>379454830
>As long as the game isn't a fucking literal book it's fine.
>NV has about 5 sentences per dialogue at most.

Objectively wrong

>Melee, guns, explosives, energy, stealth, companions, etc….

Melee is just a button masher

Guns and everything else are used every 30min-2hours then back to DIALOGUE or Walking Sim

>Seriously list out some good games for me I'd love to hear about them.

Mario 64

Nocturne

Doom

Gran Turismo

Red alert

Super Metroid

War of the monsters

Pong

Centipede

Thief

Crackdown

Goldeneye 64

Ultima

>Seriously explain to me why games can not have these things.

Because they aren't gameplay, just muh feels crap that is generic and can be applied to anything from Visual novels to being a LAARPing dumbass
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>>379456253
>Guns and everything else are used every 30min-2hours then back to DIALOGUE or Walking Sim.
Already can tell you've never played a second of NV. As previously stated dialogue in NV is never more than 5 - 8 sentences. With the exception of major events like talking to Lanius or Mr. House. Which can all be quickly evaded simply by choosing the "I got to leave" , " I'll help you" or "I'm going to kill you" box.n to destination is so fucking hard man. Never do you have to wait in dialogue unless you want to learn about that character or a certain topic. Wihch is far more interesting than simply reading it off some codex in the menu. You're also acting as if walking 5 minutes from destination to destination is such a chore. Almost all the time along that walk is a group of enemies. Whether it's Deathclaws, cazadores, bandits, or bloatflys. The walking is never a chore due to the excellent soundtrack whether it be ambient or radio, atmosphere, and art design.

>Because they aren't gameplay, just muh feels crap that is generic and can be applied to anything from Visual novels to being a LAARPing dumbass
Who the fuck are you to define what "gameplay" is, something so fucking broad it refers to over 50 something genres of video games. Like another poster stated Visual Novels offer nothing that a game does with the exception of cheesy dialogue choices. Never do I specifically move my character to a character, location, or enemy. Never am I in control of the character. All I do is make the decision of whether my character likes this guy or not. Goes down this ugly path or not. Games have so much more potential than to be locked to one specific genre. Why can't a game have choices and good gameplay? Something that NV has. Also I like how you list games like Thief, and Super Metroid which wouldn't be nearly as liked if it weren't for the excellent atmospheres the games have. Something you openly stated doesn't belong in games .
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>>379456253
Almost none of the games you listed are specifically solely gameplay. Almost all of them are good due to the fact that they had time put into things that aren't solely combaytsuch as; art design, story, atmosphere, or music. The only game there that really fits into the category of just combat is Ultima.
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>>379449000
Could I get a quick rundown?
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>>379456253
Do you just hate replayability and discussion of games or something? You know there's a reason that there's always a New Vegas thread with over 400 replies a day yet you never see anyone discussing or even mentioning Ultima or Centipede anymore. Because they literally have one thing to their name and that is their gameplay (combat).
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>>379450502
You obviously haven't played a game with a lot of reputability and mileage. That or you just disdain those that likes something you don't.

You already decided to dislike it at the get go. How the fuck do you expect to understand anything else?
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>>379451214
Intimidating Presence?
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>>379451312
I'd rather have a flawed game rather than a fully functioning piece of shit.
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>>379457427
My mistake Pong and Centipede are literally pure combat. Same reason why nobody can be bothered to play them for 5 minutes. Same reason why you never see them mentioned except when people are discussing about the first games ever made.
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>>379446238
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
THE BEAR AND THE BULL
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>>379431373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLJ1gyIzg78
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>>379457217
>>379457427
>>379457923
This. I don't play video games to read just as I don't play games to kill the same group of generic enemies for the same generic reason spawning in the same generic location in the same generic setting while the same generic soundtrack plays.
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>>379430375
In the alternate universe where Troika owns the license.
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>>379433026
Fuck off, ACfag.
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>>379459382
>Troika
>not early 2000's Black Isle
Troika are good but they are just a poor mans Black Isle
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>>379437143
12 million sales and 9/10s across the board say otherwise.
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>>379442000
>seeing as Obsidian blew them the fuck out
See >>379459734
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>>379450323
>Bethesda choosing the option that would generate less sales
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>>379452989
>>379459734
You people the reason why everyone thinks modern Obsidian is the same people who made New Vegas.

Todd is on record saying that the voiced protagonist is not something they're going to do again
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>>379450323
>>379460219
>"After receiving the artifact gun from Jack, if the player character chooses to ask what Jack will do now, Jack will say he will travel to the Southwest. His father was always convinced that there was another alien city buried somewhere below the Mojave Desert."
Though it won't be called New Vegas 2, there will be a post-courier Mojave fallout game.
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>>379445232
you deserve at least 1 reply. People in this thread try to defend their irrational nostalgia bias by citing "details" yet they ignore a post like yours...
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>>379457217
He's a neanderthal who doesn't understand the benefits of story telling. He is an uncultured, anti-intellectual, moron who wants to shoot brown people and not care about who they are apart from the "fact" that they are "objectively bad" and should be killed. You are engaging in a battle of wits with the unarmed.

That said, New Vegas wasn't gods' gift. I wouldn't say it's any step up from Fo3 either. Fo3 is a tight, safe little game that does what it was meant to and little else. New Vegas is an over-designed under developed mess. It's a big, empty, linear game with compact nodes of substance that are ultimately really shallow and underwhelming.
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>>379453093
the entire souls genre is literally the second greatest video game in the entirety of fucking video games

it's going to be decades before there will be an incredible fucking accident like dark (demon's) souls ever again
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anyone have experience with Delilah? any good?
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>>379465243
I agree about NV being a mess as I think it's overrated. My favorite being 1. but saying that 3 is better seems like pure contrarianism.
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>>379431373
best post.
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>>379433638
>UNDER
DROPPED
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>>379465394
>BUY MY GAME
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Yes. Games that
1. actually work and
2. aren't tedious overrated dogshit
automatically beat out New Vegas.
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>>379430375
I genuinely do not understand why people deify this game so much. I played it and enjoyed it but it was literally just Fallout 3 with the top ten gameplay mods already installed and marginally better writing. If the atmosphere and setting really work for you then awesome, that's great, but I don't really see anything else special about it.
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>>379467458
It's less popular than Fallout 3, therefore better. It's like 16 year olds who refuse to listen to anything on a major label, because they're "punks". It's /v/ being tiresome faggots.
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>>379430375
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How viable is a bare fist playthrough? I've been playing Tekken 7 and I wanna punch things.
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>>379431373
This. This. This. This. This. This. This.
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>>379469505
You better make sure to put points in endurance to tank the waves of bullets that are going to shred your body.
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>>379458826
>recommending that shitty algorithm whore who jews his way into the sidebar of literally any fallout video
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about to go down to Wawa to get me a hoagie what is the most comfy sandwich option they have for a New Vegas run?
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>>379433026
If I wanted to shoot things in an open world I'd play Farcry, I want an rpg and Failout 4 isn't that, plus shooting is still shit and weapons are garbage.
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