Was Dragon's Dogma kino?

>>379031476
No but it was an enjoyable game.

No. It was a video game. Still is technically.

>>379031476
go away redditor

>>379031476
No, it was okay. Not as good a Dark Souls, Dark Souls is kino.

>>379031681
It was better than Dark Souls though

>>379031729
>>379031681
they're good for different reasons

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Yes

>>379031476
>kino
What?

>Kino

How do we get Reddit to leave?

>>379031476
I wasn't expecting an interesting story, this game really is underrated.

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>>379033463
>>379033506
>implying this isn't kino

>>379031681
shit taste drone

>>379031476

No, it was bad but retards pretend it's good to keep the illusion up that only the Japs make good games.

>>379033716
What?

/v/ only likes it because its not popular

If it was popular you would turn on it immediately

>>379031476
>>>/tv/
Also, kill yourself.

>>379033936
It sold pretty well on steam.

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>>379033716
Pure Kino

>>379033936
I disagree. It's just stupid and fun enough to appeal to /v/ regardless of popularity.

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>>379031729
>It was better than Dark Souls though

>>379034003
It sold moderately well. If it was skyrim levels of success v would nitpick all of the shitty aspects of the game

>>379034081
>better combat
>better music
>more difficult
>better story
Dark Souls only beats it in lore.

>>379034003
>>379034117
I thought it sold even more on consoles years rior

>>379034196
It sold extremely well, Capcom just branded it a failure because they were in their "anything that doesn't literally sell over 5 million copies is a failure" phase.

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>playing back at launch
>the game had no multplayer so they did the paw system as a substitute.
>My face the first time I got a genuinely well trained pawn who just stomped everyones shit
>My face when people would send oodles and oodles of gifts on my pawn because I made her a top notch healer
>My face when sending a bunch of water melon to every black pawn I saw

Shame the community is dead and gone. The pawn stuff was so god damn fun

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>>379034468

So how is the character customization in this?

>>379034117
We have nitpicked all of the shitty aspects.
A game having flaws doesn't mean it can't be a great game. Just because you haven't been around long enough to see the discussion doesn't mean it hasn't happened many times

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>>379034025
100% kino

>>379034854
It's pretty good, you're selecting a bunch of presets with sliders to slightly edit their size and such, but it's pretty robust. Your character even affects gameplay, taller characters can move faster, smaller characters climb faster and can access secret areas, heavier characters have higher carrying capacity, lighter characters have faster stamina regeneration.

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>>379034960
>make a shota character
>That scene with the king walking in on you

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>>379035203
>make a loli character
>king walks in and gets angry

>>379034175

>better combat
No
>Better music
Okay
>More difficult
No
>Better story
>Kill thing
>Thing is dead
>Oh shit, kill God now
>God machine dead
Yeaaah, no.

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>>379035306
>be a loli, going through the windy canyon towards the Bluemoon Tower
>mfw the wind doesn't push me flying into free

>>379035485
>No
Except that it did have better combat, unless you're one of those retards that thinks slow = tactical.

>>379034081
>>379035485
>Soulsfag
How's high school treating you?

>>379035485
How the fuck is it not more difficult? Did you just not play Bitterblack Isle?

I FUCKING LOVE CLIMBING MONSTERS AND STABBING THEM

>>379035556

FFXII had better combat than DD. Let that sink in.

>>379035614
So you're one of those memesters that thinks slow = tactical.

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>>379035491
>make my pawn and I the biggest men I can possibly make
>train him to climb enemies with me
>griffons and cockatrices can never leave the ground

>>379031476
How about you kill yourself

>>379035485
Dark Souls story:
>Gwyn killed the dragons and started the age of fire
>now the fire is getting low, so you kindle it
>you can also let it go out
That's it

>>379034854

It's probably the best character creation system I've ever seen that cobbles together preset features.

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About to go to Gran Soren. I like the game so far.
Do you get to fug your pawn?

>>379036361
No. but you fug anyone else.
ANYONE.

>>379036361
nah

>>379036361
Fugging your pawn leads to some serious consequences. Don't do it.

The whole Daimon fight was pure kino.

>>379036445
>>379036512
>can't be a shota fuggin your custom-made amazonian ginger
WHY

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>>379036445
>>379036512
Oh thank god, I made my Arisen Nathan Explosion and my pawn Skwisgaar. I don't want to have to start over lest I end up in a fan fiction .

Is it possible to play the game solo? I hate how the game forces the AI companions on you and make them do half the work for you. It feels so unsatisfying. I'd rather kill everything myself

>>379036764
Yeah, there's even a somewhat OP perk for one of the classes for going solo.

>>379036764
yeah, why wouldn't it be?

>>379035740
Any game can be broken down so easily

>>379036764

>I don't like babby's first RPG holding my hand

>>379036361
Your pawn actually cucks you at the end of the game if you have a love interest

I'm not even joking

>>379036969
Yes, but you'd be leaving out details.

>>379036908
It's not really that OP, it got nerfed in DA.
>>379036983
How is DA babby's first RPG? It's decently difficult by ARPG standards.

>>379037290
Okay. Cite me a game that cannot be broken down in such a way

>>379037365
Basically any game where the plot is a focus and not a game where the plot is an excuse for the world and lore.

>>379031476
>>379031681
what the fuck is kino fuck you /tv and .a

>>379037394
Like?

>>379037480
Basically any game where the plot is a focus and not a game where the plot is an excuse for the world and lore.

>>379037572
So you've got nothing. Stop posting any time, homo.

Why is Capcom so shit at making good games now?

>>379037657
Well, Dragon's Dogma for starters. Bloodborne as well. Most traditional RPGs. Basically, any game without an excuse plot.

>>379037750
How's the mouse and keyboard controls on Dragon's Dogma?

>>379037838
Better than the gamepad controls.

>>379037838
Full support.

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What the fuck does kino even mean?

>>379037464
reddit speak for pleb tier word to repeat

What is a list of words and phrases that marks a thread as irredeemably shit?

>Comfy
>Kino
>Are you buying X's game?
>Say something nice

>>379037838
Pretty good the only thing I changed was secondry skills from being on alt left onto mouse 4 but other then that fucking perfect.

>>379038235
The only shitty thing about this thread is all the people whining about the word

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>>379038035
Relatively new buzzword from /tv/ which used to mean "pedophilic in nature" and was posted on cunny threads constantly ("recommend me kino films" was code word for shit like Maladolescenza), the word eventually leaked out of those threads and can now mean whatever positive thing the poster wants. Usually, it's synonymous to "cult classic" or appealing to a small minority of intellectuals which a lot of cunny posters on /tv/ seem to think they are.

>>379037838
It made the yellow vocations playable.

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>>379038462
Well shit

Should I go 10 mage/90 ass/100 sorc if I want to do everything.

>>379038035
The highest form of art within cinema.
A work is either a flick, movie, film, cinema, or kino. The former being stuff plebs enjoy and kino being patrician films that plebs will never understand.

>>379038643
that works
gonna be kind of low hp though

>>379031476
Dragon's Dogma was a masterwork, you can't go wrong.

>>379038643
it literally does not matter. BBI gear is where your stats come from, and nothing in the game even remotely requires minmaxing. play ranger for a while to get some stamina, that's it

Anyone playing Dragons Dogma Online here?
I started playing the other day and the guide says that I can disconnect from the VPN after logging in, but that doesn't work for me.

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>>379036361
>controller

>>379039201
It doesn't matter in a game like this
Try again

>>379038035
Cinema in German.

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>>379039201
>keyboard + mouse for an ARPG

>>379037838
I played with a DS4, kept the default xb360 controls, but I made the left side of the touchpad the key "1" and the right side "2", because you can hotkey items to 1-5
placed my lantern on 1 so I can quickly re-equip it whenever it gets wet
put large mushrooms on 2 and filled my pawn's inventory with 200 of them, regularly moved 20 into my own inventory so I can run and climb indefinitely without opening the menu everytime

Capcom just needs to admit that Itsuno is a fucking genius and needs all the budget that they could possibly provide him with.

A Dragon's Dogma II with good budget and enough time for development would be purely orgasmic.

>>379039614
>controller for a game with precise aiming

>>379039397
It literally does, unless you never use a yellow or blue vocation besides mystic knight

>>379040391
>precise aiming as a warrior

>>379040456
>not aiming your arc of deliverances

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It absolutely is Kino in every stupid sense of the word.

post the webm

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>>379040603
>>379040662
woah........kino...........

>>379031681
Between Dark souls a,d Dragon's Dogma, I found Dragon's Dogma harder, cause unless you go Strider, MA or Rangeryou don't have a dodge roll.

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>>379033837
You speak the truth, but the faggots who jack off to DD will never hear of it.

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>>379031476

Best real time action RPG ever

Nothing has come close to matching it's combat

Complaints about no fast travel were valid but this was fixed in later updates

Complaints about generic, boring story line and characters were also valid but it doesn't detract from the gameplay

>>379040482
And you can do that just fine in the console version, bub.

>>379043608
>boring story line
the story becomes anything but boring though as soon as you encounter the dragon, aswell as BBI

>>379043731
Sure, as long as the framerate is high enough for you to tell where the enemies are, which is rare in the PS360 version

>>379043787
Framerate only got back if you or a pawn were using big magic like maelstrom. Everything else it ran well enough to be tolerable.

>>379043748
Not exactly a good thing if the story only gets good when it's wrapping up/needs an expansion pack.

>>379043864
Not really, it was close to 20 FPS during any action scene at night with lanterns out, not to mention yellow vocations were unplayable.

>>379033837

>Dogma
>Bad
Wow you must have shit taste. List off a few great games for us, lad.

Dragon's Dogma is a fantastic game; individual components are, at times, out of place or clunky... but the whole is so much more than the sum of its' parts. The pawn system, combat, charmingly clunky designs and all add up to such a unique blend of elements and quality that it is hard to not put Dogma on any respectable top ~10 list of RPG's in the last decades.

If you legitimately dislike Dragon's Dogma and think it's a "Bad game", you are everything wrong with where the game industry is headed. Go back to semi-annual AAA releases like Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty, they're calling your name.

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>>379035712
>Train him to...

Stop right there
For the millionth time, there is NO self-learning AI in Dragon's Dogma. Everything is determined by vocation, bestiary knowledge, inclinations, and equipment. This was always obvious, but since the PC version was released and the code was disassembled, there is even factual proof that it doesn't exist.

If the nerds at Google and NASA can't make a self-learning AI, neither can Capcom.

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>>379043748

I certainly don't think the storyline is boring, but then again i've played through it like six times.

I was refering to the common user/critic complaint the story was generic or boring.

It's safe to assume most professional reviewers would play at most 10 hours. So they'd barely get past Gran Soren before doing their write up.

>>379044349

Pawns pick up on your behavior. I tested it pretty thoroughly myself; they will mimick your actions if you are the same vocation as they are for any period of time.

Make a warrior pawn. Watch it fight stuff from the start; it will never block correctly, doesn't grapple much, etc. Inclinations will change this to an extent- but...

Play warrior yourself, with your warrior pawn, for awhile. Do perfect blocks, jump on specific enemies, don't ever climb others. Switch vocations. Watch your pawn emulate your decisions from your warrior gameplay.

This isn't a "Self-learning AI', you fucking nitwit. But it does 'learn' in a more rote fashion how to play the vocations as you would.

>>379044349
If your pawn sees you climbing on certain large enemies to hit their weak point it triggers a flag for knowledge of those enemies about their weak points and your pawn will start climbing on them. It's why a mage pawn will just fucking jump on an ogre's face the moment they see one until they see someone hit an ogre with lightning damage.

>>379044349
And yet it's proven numerous times in the threads that they do adopt habits based on the shit you do.

Keep jumping on monsters? They'll do it.
Keep breaking shit/gathering resources, they'll do it even when you've long since amassed enough resources to not have need of further collecting.

>>379044486
This is fucking wrong though, there is literally nothing in the game that does this. Stop spouting this shitty meme.

>>379044486
What if you don't play as warrior as in your example? Don't they get better over time regardless? You might just be tricking yourself.

>>379044349
it still makes sense in a way. your actions DO influence your pawns inclinations. so the more your climb, the more they change to scather or whatever, which in turn makes them climb more frequently

it's not adapting AI, but you are still influencing them to change behaviors passively

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>>379044565
The only meme is your retardation that thinks it's not true that the pawns adapt to how you play.

Christ nigger, nobody is saying they're super sentient AIs, just that they learn how to act from watching you. Even games like pic related had that shit ages ago. It's not that hard to imagine.

>>379035491
>tfw it's written in sand.
>We kill ourselves in the end.

>>379044486
Yeah, but people think pawns can pick up extremely specific behaviours from watching the player. This is objectively false. They naturally gravitate to three sets of generalized behaviours, which is the primary, secondary, and the hidden tertiary inclination.

The game gets extremely boring after you hit level 100/NG+ because enemies don't scale at all, so even Cyclops go down in one or two Tenfold Flurries.

>>379043930
well duh
but looking at the big picture it's relatively good

>>379044528
>And yet it's proven numerous times in the threads that they do adopt habits based on the shit you do.
No, it has not. In fact, the exact opposite has been proven.
>but I perfect blocked a lot and my pawn started doing it
Because having higher enemy knowledge makes them more likely to be able to perfect block that enemy.
>but I started climbing on enemies and my pawn suddenly started doing it
Because you changed their inclination
>b-but it didn't change
It's their tertiary inclination
>b-but I reset it and they're still doing it
Then they gained enemy knowledge from watching you climb and hit weak points and started exploiting that.
>>379044696
Except this is wrong. They don't "learn how to do things from watching you". They gain enemy knowledge from watching you fight those enemies, and they gain inclinations from actions you perform. Those are the things that are affecting their behavior, they are not "learning" and they are not mimicking you; you just raised a different inclination enough or gained specific bestiary knowledge. You can completely change how a pawn acts by giving them inclination potions or even just spamming the fucking D-pad. It has NOTHING to do with your actions other than any action that changes their inclination or unlocks bestiary info. You literally CANNOT argue against this because people have datamined the entire game and there isn't a single line of code for them copying your actions.

>>379038035

It means highly artistic or beautiful moment the way all of these fags use it.

>>379044949
>In fact, the exact opposite has been proven.
Prove then, you fucking autist.

The only thing I really dislike is that you can't have more than one character slot. I want to play a mystic knight now, but I feel like my damage is shit cause I don't really have stats from magic classes.

>>379045036
http://dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Inclination

>>379035578
You look like a child when you say shit like this. I'm 28 btw.

>five years later and people are still arguing that pawns have magical invisible wizard coding guiding their actions even though it's been repeatedly proven that pawns with the same inclinations and knowledge will always fight the same way
FIVE FUCKING YEARS OF THIS SHIT
FIVE

>>379045178
So a manchild?

>>379045167
Doesn't say anything contrary to the point about the AI doing shit based on what you've done. Again, nobody is saying the AI is super advanced, just that they fucking do shit without being told to because of your actions, like getting the gold drops from the town fountain. Stay the fuck wrong.

>>379045228
yeah I dunno why people parrot this shit
pawns only rarely do anything intelligent regardless of their inclinations

>>379045092
well you don't really need another character slot, just level as a sorcerer for a bit and you'll have enough damage with mystic knight

but afaik there's a mod that allows you to make multiple savelots

>>379045272
>just that they fucking do shit without being told to because of your actions, like getting the gold drops from the town fountain. Stay the fuck wrong.
Because their tertiary inclination is Acquisitor. Use a potion and they'll stop.

>>379045396
Aren't pawns with shields broken tho? I've heard they always perfect block.

>>379045430
If you get their bestiary knowledge to 3-stars for every enemy they're essentially invincible yeah

>>379045426
Except they'll do the fountain drop because of players who always gun for it. You can stop being retarded now.

>>379045092
Backup your save, delete it, start a new character, use the mod that rebalances stat gains so MK and MA aren't shit to level as.

>>379045521
Wrong. If they don't have an inclination for picking up items, they won't go out of their way to do so. Acquisitioner is just a very common and easy tertiary inclination to get because it's raised by gathering items.

>>379045521
I really wish people this retarded didn't exist, I'm tired of digging through dozens of pawn with acquisition as their first or second inclination.

>>379045569
And yet I've had Scathers that constantly pick shit up. Again, consider ending your autistic wrongness.

>>379045603
Nice argument, kiddo. Really showing people what for.

>>379045663
>And yet I've had Scathers that constantly pick shit up.
Because Acquisitioner was their tertiary inclination.

>>379045717
Meanwhile your argument is "pawns act outside of their coding because of <anecdotal evidence that is actually just inclination behavior>"

>>379045758
Meanwhile yours is "we've got information to prove it, but we won't post it"

So yea, whatever you say, autist.

>>379046056
It was already posted earlier in the thread.

>>379045728
It's easy for people to get confused since tertiaries aren't displayed. But yeah this is most likely the culprit

>threads make me want a reinstall and play again
>Played strider/fighter/warrior/assassin last time
>Only mage left
>Well mages are kewl right?
>Remember golems

And then I lose my desire to reinstall.

Seriously how the fuck do you deal with golems as a mage

>>379046442
You equip two of the ring that boosts unarmed damage, pop a conqueror's periapt and punch them to death.
No I'm not joking.

>>379046442
get pawns that have golem knowledge. or cast ice spells, or man up and punch them

>>379046496
you don't even need the rings or periapts really. once you're on them they can't do much to you so just keep punching away. helps to have a pawn to take our the foot one though

>>379040880
Would have been better to post an arisen grappling on to a boar

>>379046945
pure kino

>>379040603

>Abandon all delusions of control
>You can do this, this or this Arisen, the choice is yours

Fuck you dragon

>>379036614
to be fair, she was also a minor.

>>379031476
No, it was video igra.