Stormblood - Stop lying edition

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>>378730080
>Can't believe how badly they managed to fuck up just translating tooltips.
This is Koji Fox we're talking about.

>>378730019
FIRST FOR WHM WILL RISE AGAIN

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/00f10efa9f916aab2e1bc9f7f1d2d2f103c99519

Did WoW ever do shit like this with big name brands in the US?

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/326384-Any-other-WHMs-debating-quitting-the-game

make sure to complain here, let's take down president yoshi together!
#notmygamedesigner

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>>378730220
I'll be doing the raising.

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Show me your glamours.

>>378730195
In general they're typos or old data, not mistranslations though.

>>378730195
I appreciate the effort of trying to tie it into the lore but really?

>>378730245
Yes? Fucking simpleton. Were you really going to use a Carl's Jr promo as something to hang over the heads of WoW players or something?

>>378730287
Enjoy losing MP.

>>378730302
No

>>378730302
>/vg/ selfieshitting
how about you go there doing that

I really hope they reworked this fucked up random gear system in raid and dungeons.

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>>378730302
Fuck off toon poster.

>>378730302
Ah yes, the "Fresh Level 60 DRG Shitter" look.

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>>378730302
Fuck off

>>378730287
oh yeah? WHERE'S YOUR REFRESH, YOU STYLISH CUNT YOU

>>378730220
Rise into the depths of cuckhole.

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>>378730245

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>>378730416
>bard has refresh
Wait, I remember this

>>378730245
All the fucking time

>>378730374
>toon

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>>378730416
thanks for buffing my bard even more, rdmcucks

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>>378730416
Right here dingdong

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>>378730350
>>378730356
>>378730374
>>378730379
I just want to spite you people.

>>378730363

Raids will be dropping shit for the jobs present. No word about dungeons yet but they're probably unchanged. After all, everyone enjoys watching gear drop for jobs that aren't present when they really need something for what they're playing as instead.

>>378730537
So basically Mage's Ballad was turned into Foes Requiem while the actual MP restore was made into Refresh on a cooldown with no damage loss?

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>>378730339
No, I just never really played WoW when it first came out or later on, so I was curious. 14 is the biggest MMO I've played, with several others I've tried. I took a dip into WoW after the Warlords expansion, but hated it.

Just more surprised to see an MMO I play really do stuff like this.

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>>378730245
I don't think any FFXIV promotional ads will top this one.

>>378730220
*in 5.0

>>378730570
$18 for that shit outfit

where the fuck is the butler/maid outfit already

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>>378730570
No, fuck you.
That shit always gets these threads 404'd.

>>378730578
Did they said smth about new gear system in raids and primals?

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>>378730570
Go to the /vg/ thread then, as they do nothing, but that. There's zero reason to go to other threads to do it elsewhere.

>>378730621
>Mage's Ballad was turned into Foes Requiem
no?
Foes Requiem is still in the game and still does vuln up (3%). Mage's Ballad does damage, gives 2% crit buff & allows river of blood procs

>>378730578
They said final bosses at least are guaranteed to drop gear equippable by the party members.

>>378730681
Tokens are cool but they should be in the key items or their own token tab

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>>378730302
Nah......

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>haven't played in a couple of months
>come back to get ready for SB
>decide to run A9-12 to get some easy stuff for my NIN
>go through two full parties who never clear A9 because they keep ignoring mechanics even after explaining to them exactly what to do
>none of them were new

Why are people allowed to get carried so far and still have no idea what to do?

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>>378730726
So where's Mage's meter

Are dragoons and ninjas finally going to get their gear rolled into the other strength and dex classes or is 99% of dungeon loot still going to be dragoon shit?

U have damage, then u comprain about no utility
We gave u utility, now u comprain about no damage
What da fuk do u want

>>378730019
>MNK Potency nerfs are the same in JP and ENG

>/vg/fags making shitty generals in /v/

>>378730798
You mean Foes? It does have one, it runs off of MP.

What's the fastest way to get from Level 30 to Level 60? And how much time would it take me on average.

>>378730195
>you will never Curagura your party and save the day

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>>378730570
i am okay with this when its a qt roe daddy

>>378730882
PotD, 5-6 hours of non-stop level 51-60 grinfing

>>378730798
>>378730864
doesn't*

>>378730845

they had to nerf monks potency so he would not be mandatory pick ;)

Currently using a Phenom II x4 965 processor overclocked to around 4GHz, and using a GTX 660 GPU. Stormblood benchmark at 1920x1080 "High (Desktop)" settings gets me a rating of "High", playing the game now though I notice high population areas dip down to about 40-50 FPS sometimes.
Should I keep this setup going into Stormblood or upgrade my GPU/CPU to getting better performance at possibly a better graphical setting?

>>378730729
So its now tokens for everyone in raids? Or rolls on tokens? No shit pool of messed gear anymore?

>>378730338
The Japanese version of this is basically "after much deliberation we decided on Curaja"

>>378730278
I play AST and rarely WHM so I don't get what they're bitching about. What's so bad they're going to quit? That they got buffed but not buffed enough?

>>378730941
> GTX 660
Its now even officially support by the stormblood.

>>378730338
>suffixes
>combura
>miasra
>benefira
>malefiga
I appreciate that non-oldfags are nostalgic for post-snes games, but these all sound significantly dumber than the traditional element ones.

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never 4get

>>378730845
>internal release increased to 30%
>30% damage buff while riddle is active
>chakra for days in a melee based party
>twin snakes increased from 5% to 10%
i dno man

>>378730945
Everyone gets tokens, rolls on gear. So if what you want doesn't drop you can still buy it after a couple weeks.

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>>378730798
it's a spell, not a song mechanic
works like the old one

>>378731018
did they just bury him headfirst with his feet sticking out?

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>>378731052
>reduces all enemy damage dealt by 3%

>>378730995
I figured 660 would be low for Stormblood, did me fine enough for Heavensward, but because of my processor I'm worried anything better than the 660 would bottleneck, or is that false?

>>378730975
They got stuff nobody wanted and a mechanic that encourages bad play.

>>378730941

Both. Your processor is shit and your graphics card isn't much better.

I mean you can obviously run the game fine, but if you want to play it at 1920x1080 with no dips in framerate at max settings you'll need a better rig.

>>378731159
MMOs are CPU intensive you idiot.

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>>378731127
that's a mistranslation or an older build
Current is 3% vuln up

>>378731082
Just like the cross roles they're going to take his shoes and cane immediately afterwards.

>>378731127
it's an error, apparently
famitsu version is 3% extra damage taken

>>378730975
Stoneskin is removed, a lot of their kit was turned into role skills which means they have to spend their allowance on those alone (Cleric's stance [questionable], Esuna, Divine Seal, Protect Shroud of saints), their new mechanic is more proc based garbage.

>>378731036
Twin Snakes is already 10%. They just removed the trait that increases it from 5 to 10 and have it start at 10 by default.

>>378731036
>twin snakes increased from 5% to 10%
We already had that, it was a Trait at Lv28 that they removed for whatever reason.

>chakra for days in a melee based party
RNG in a Japanese game is never in your favor. MCH procs are "50%" and they sure as shit aren't 50%

>>378731050
> current shit system
They better change shit. I got of it during As.

>>378731127
It's mistranslated, it's like current Foe's but for all damage.

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>>378731052
>>378731127
Japanese tooltip is 3% increased damage taken IIRC. Just another english error.

>>378730975
>WHM
>Buffed

>>378730278
I like how there's a decent amount of people going "nooo quitting is too much of an extreme to show your displeasure". Like do they not understand that losing a paying customer says more than them changing their fucking preferred job to play in a mmo?

do machinists still have a dozen different 1 minute cooldowns?

>>378731274
>spend their allowance on those alone
Do we know if they role skills are limited to 5 like cross-class skills now or do we just plain get them?

>>378731214
>>378731236
>mch hypercharge is 5%
>foe is 3% and you give crit buff aura to party and can use 10% physical or magical hypercharge every 3min

the shed is getting busier it seems

>>378731298
>>378731305
My bad. Regardless, MNK is looking to be in a good spot, at least in comparison to every dps that isn't SAM.
>RNG in a Japanese game is never in your favor.
while true, let's not also forget that it's a 5% group damage buff.

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A-at least we have free everything for 12 sec. Not so bad, haha. Cut my life into pieces, this is my last resort

>>378731383
> and can use 10% physical or magical hypercharge every 3min
are you onee of those retards that can't read troubadour correctly, or am i mis-reading you?

>>378731380

They're limited to 5, so mixing and matching which person takes what for their role going into an 8-man will be a thing probably.

>>378731380
5. You learn more than you can use.

>>378731178
>>378731208
I figured that would be the case. Money isn't an issue at the moment but FFXIV is the only PC game I play, so spending money to make it run "better" when it might run "fine" seems like it might be a waste of money. Overall I don't have problems with the performance I had in Heavensward so I guess my main question is if Stormblood is expected to need more power and whether my CPU or GPU is causing the most problems (even though both are old and shitty, I can agree).

>>378731430
Do it fag.

>>378731370
They still have Wildfire, Reload, Reassemble and Ricochet, but they're losing Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye and Blood for Blood.

>>378731345
What's going to cause a bigger impact?

>Dropping a few subscribers at expansion launch when there will be tons of new and returning subs to cover them
or
>SE watching the percentage of people playing WHM dwindle drastically

>>378731430
You can kill yourself for free!

>>378731387
I predict the MNK changes are not the doomsday that everyone thinks. The reductions to potency and Forbidden Chakra damage will be made up by how much more often they get to use Forbidden Chakra.

Riddle of Fire is only about a 5% DPS increase on your base rotation due to the GCD increase, but on your oGCDs it's pure +30% damage which is fucking huge considering how much of MNK's damage is wrapped up in their oGCDs.

>>378731484
>Play BRD
>My opener needs to have B4B, Raging, Hawk's Eye, and Internal Release

>>378731430
see I know nothing about healing, but this seems insane. yet WHM is garbage? I don't get it. every other MMO i've played the healers always talk about how important mana conservation is, this lets you cast spells for free 10% of the time, thats pretty fuggen good right?

>>378731534
A mix of both as regardless of the situation, WHM numbers will drop. New players coming in is irrelevant, a lost sub is still a lost sub because of their fuckup.

>>378730195
>Gravity with upper case
What did they mean by this?

>>378731608
Let's not forget that +damage% stacks multiplicatively, making things like balance even sweeter. Between that and every dps losing +dmg buffs or having theirs nerfed, 30% is a pretty big boon.

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Post your Heavensward role mains, post liveletter role mains, and post embargo role mains.

>PLD, SCH, DRG, MCH, SMN
>PLD, SCH, DRG, MCH, RDM
>PLD, SCH, DRG, BRD, RDM

>>378731608
That said, I'm still pretty disappointed with MNK's new abilities, save for Brotherhood. I was hoping we'd get at least one new attack, but we just got a bunch of lame utility buffs that will almost never see the light of day due to being so situational. On top of that, Riddle of Earth makes Tornado Kick even more worthless than it already is, since now you'll be able to maintain GL through boss ults.

>>378731672
No, because its only value is burst damage from the whm, which is trivial compared to the damage increases the other two healers can offer the party.

>>378731729
>BRD, AST, WAR
>BRD, AST, WAR
>BRD, AST, WAR

>>378731672
I mean it is sure, but with their entire toolkit it's who gives a fuck.

SCH and AST are so much better at MP Sustain it isn't funny

>>378731534
The latter will cause panic buffs like what happened to MCH, BRD and AST in succession during HW.

>>378731474

SB is dropping PS3 support. You'll probably experience some longer load times with the major cities not being divided up into instances any more, as well as more particle effects and such. But it should still be smooth enough if you don't try to play with max settings.

If money's not an object you may as well go for an upgrade. It's not like you'll only play XIV forever- a new game might catch your interest sooner or later. Also, playing this game on max settings is worth it. It's genuinely beautiful at times.

But I'm just a nerd who likes to build my own PCs and wishes they had the money to do it more often. Still, my four year old processor is still going strong. I upgrade piece by piece instead of going all-in at once for the most part- spreading the cost out helps.

sage for off-topic

>>378731729
>PLD, MNK
>PLD, MNK, BRD
>PLD, BRD

>>378731449
i almost feel bad to tell you, but it's the english tooltip mistranslated, just like foe was

>>378731763
what the fuck, do healers really care so much about damage that damaging spells are their only consideration when faced with an ability like that? do bosses in raids just lightly tickle your party members? whats the fucking deal.

>>378731672
Mana is rarely that big of a concern anyway, or was at least.

>>378731672
WHM is only going to use this to spam Holy for 12 seconds.

>>378731807
>major cities not being divided up into instances any more

That's not happening.

>>378731672
It's really the only good thing WHM got, but it's far from "insane". SCH's Aetherflow and AST's Ewer accomplish essentially the same thing.

>>378731672
12 seconds isn't actually a very long time with a 2.5s GCD.

>>378731729
War and Sch will always be my go to for easy ques, though Sam or Nin have to fight for my Melee dps spot and Rdm is looking more fun then blm now.

>>378731892
you know thats actually a really good point

>>378731672
The FFXIV team has designed themselves into a corner with WHM. It's the "pure healer" healer in a game where healing 100% of the time isn't needed, and the buffs/damage of the other two healers are a lot more effective.

>>378731837
raids get healed with ogcds and hots
there is nothing to do inbetween

>>378731837
AST and SCH had much better utility and ways to sustain their DPS which WHM was lacking, but WHM shined in ARR when autos from bosses were nothing to sneeze at.

>>378731672
You have to actually heal in other MMORPGs.

What're some good hereditary traits for racing chocobos? I have Breather III on mine but it's not as useful as I thought it was

>>378731892
That's why you pop Presence of Mind too.

>>378731729
nin
sam
nin
i shouldn't have doubted

>>378731672
WHM has biggest heals and DPS of all three.
But you don't need biggest heals, and healer DPS is getting nerfed so even Selene skill speed buff is much better.

>>378731837
They can't design the game around requiring one specific job so making white mage better at healing than all the other healers is pointless. Any healer can heal content fine but the other healers provide benefits other than healing that white mage doesn't.

>>378731837
That isn't what I said you moron. Nobody cares about healing when all healers can do the job. The point of discrimination is what else they bring to the table. Further, ast is a flat out better healer now as well, so whm brings nothing except short windows of inferior damage.

>>378731837

Healing in XIV isn't as strong or necessary as other games like WoW, so the healer is expected to do damage when they don't need to heal. A lot of content can be done with one healer.

>>378731883

Kugane is not going to be divided up into instances, so the rest should follow suit. Has contradicting information come out?

>>378731807
>mfw can only afford to upgrade 1 or 2 parts a year.

i should update my processor to but then it leads to switching the motherboard.

>>378731729
>BLM AST NIN DRK
>SMN WHM MNK PLD
>BLM AST NIN DRK

>>378731837
Blame AST, basically. They only had 2 healers, a mitigation healer and a regen healer. They could have just made a second mitigation healer or even give them just standard heals with no regen or shields, but nope! gotta let them perform EITHER role

and that killed white mage, since it meant you could still take scholar with ast.

If they had simply made ast an alternative to scholar, we probably never would have seen card buffs

>>378731990
>a healers ability to heal is irrelevant to how good they are
You know I love FFXIV but holy fuck me dead if this isn't stupid.

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>>378730302
My black mage

>>378731729
>sch, smn, war, mch
>sch, smn, pld, mch
>sch, rdm, pld, brd

>>378731939
The best chocobo racing skills are Choco Cure III and Increased Stamina III. Stamina is your lifeblood in Choco racing. The longer you can sprint, the more likely you are to win.

If you're still in the leveling/breeding process though, take Dressage III for the exp boost.

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>>378731729
NIN/MCH
DRG/MCH
SAM/MCH/NIN

>>378731729
Drk, drk, drk

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Why play any other job? I've been wanting this since launch.

Folks, its called balancing. Not just one job, but all of them as a whole. They may also have had to reallocate where SMN's dmg is coming from in order to bring some new aspects to the job. So the dmg may not necessarily be reduced overall, it'll likely increase actually. It just wont be from one or two different skills, but from those skills all actively working as a whole.

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>>378732062
>healing 2.0 Twintania
Too bad that warbabbies had to ruin such an awesome game.

>>378732146
Is it you, warcuck?

>>378732062
Are you baiting or retarded?

>>378732146
because it's going to be nerfed into the ground before the first raid is out and you will get to enjoy 8 hour dungeon queues before then.

>>378731729
>WAR, AST, MNK, MCH, SMN
>WAR, AST, MNK, MCH, SMN
>preorder cancelled

>>378732146
>Kirito bait

>>378732062
It's true. Healing doesn't kill the boss. You only need as much healing as necessary to survive the encounter, which any healer can provide. After that, healing is secondary to DPS. The only way a "pure healer" could ever be viable is if either there were encounters with big enough heal checks that using a big-healer is mandatory, or if they are SO good at healing that you can forgo bringing a co-healer and instead take a 5th DPS.

>>378732165
i can't hear you when you're inside of the shed

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>>378731926
it's funny because now SCH and AST get even more tools to sustain their DPS

>SCH
>Excogitation is a 650 potency heal that goes off when the target's HP drops below 50%
>Fairy tether for sustained babysitting while DPSing
>Chained Strategem is an important raid tool that is basically a stronger battle litany on a single target with a shorter cooldown

>AST
>Earthly star which is like assize but with 3 times the healing potency (900) if allowed to sit for 10s, if not it's still better than assize (670)
>Minor Arcana, which recycles shit cards into Lord (300 potency attack) or Lady (500 potency heal)
>Sleeve Draw which gives you a card, a held card, a minor arcana, and a royal road effect

WHM gets... a barrier in response to the lost stoneskin, and the strongest DPS spam spell but who gives a fuck

>>378732180
kill youself

>>378731729
DRK/BRD, RDM, SAM/BRD/NIN/DRK/RDM

Honestly it is too early to tell, need to actually play and feel the jobs to decide.But SAM looks strongest contender so far, finally a mdps without big focus on positionals or inane mechanics.

>>378732180
id appreciate if you'd stop posting that image
>>378732206
are YOU retarded?

>>378731729
MNK
MNK
MNK

>>378731036
>chakra for days in a melee based party

15s buff for 30% chance on a 2min CD. You get to pray to RNG gods while hoping the other dps do their rotations properly.

Not a good system.

>>378732146
it's confirmed that Kaiten's tooltip is wrong and is "by 50%" or "to 150%". It's not a x2.5 potency boost.

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>>378731729
>SMN, DRK, AST
>SMN, DRK, AST
>SMN, DRK, AST

Love Summoner too much to abandon it.

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>Dropped SCH for SAM over a month ago
>mfw SCH AoE fucked into the dirt
>mfw SAM's big dick potency
>Half the static trying to weasel their way into SAM now
>Shut them down immediately

Make sure you fluff my dps, worthless knaves.

>>378732307
Please stop hating lalafells.

>>378732283
SAM still has two positionals. They don't boost the attack damage but you still need to do them to build Kenki.

>>378732261
excogitation is weird because it was clearly designed for how cleric stance previously worked and isn't nearly as useful with the change.

Guys
What if
What if these numbers aren't final
And at launch we find out WHM has killer healers and top DPS

>>378732374
its a natural reaction, like avoiding bad smells and not eating shit. i can't help it.

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>>378731729

MNK/WAR
MNK/NIN
NIN/SAM

Going full fucking weeb. I might stick with MNK depending on how it actually turns out though. Also interested in PLD.

>>378732379
Keniki*

>>378732261
excogitation would have been so great with cleric, it's still insanely good, but since you don't need to stance dance anymore it kinda makes me sad

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>>378732407
Its too late for you, whmcucks.

>>378732389
it's still a great "I'll worry about it later" healing tool.

>>378732353
>Discount berserk with low CD
Still amazing

>>378732337

any weapon skill has a 30% chance to grant a chakra.

>>378732407
Even if they doubled WHM's personal DPS, you'd still want to bring SCH/AST because party buffs are worth WAY more than a healer's personal DPS.

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Post yfw they buff WHM's heals to the point where solo healing every encounter becomes meta.

>>378732146
I remember when Tornado Kick was 500 Potency in the HW press showing.

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>>378731828
the fuck it is
moonrunes says reduces for both

>>378732307
So you're an idiot. Good to know.

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>You didn't fall for the WHM trap

>>378732529
dont respond to my posts ever again retard

>>378732337
Where does the community want the skill floor/ceiling to go anyhow?

I can't tell if SB is raising or lowering either yet.

>>378732337

I thought it was any weaponskill, not just full rotations. If it's any weaponskill then it still has a fairly good chance to proc even at 30% unless your party members are literally just standing around doing nothing.

>>378732497
With their 900 potency shields and 900 potency instant aoe, AST will be the king of solo healing.

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>>378732367
SHUT UP, SCHOLAR IS STILL AMAZING
WE HAVE THE 20% CRIT "CHANCE" BUFF, ASTBULLS THAT HAVE STRONGER SHIELDS AND 20% ACTUAL DPS INCREASE ARE ONLY TAKEN BECAUSE WHM IS SHIT

>>378732575
Go fuck yourself.

>>378732497
>Meta becomes WHM/AST
>AST only for Balance cause muh fflogs
>SCH isn't even listed in roles parties are searching for

I want this to happen for just one raid tier.

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>ruin the basic healer
>on the expansion that adds RDM and SAM
Thanks Yoshi. Looking forward to my 2h queues.

>>378732560
Jokes on you, i have all healers fully geared. Im not gay, i swear

>tank, dps, and healer being added in heavensward created 3 hour dps queues
>no extra tanks or healers being added to relieve queue times this time

Watching the bitching from dps as they spend the entire day waiting for the queue to do the first dungeon is going to be hilarious.

>>378732582
well they nerfed the skill requirement of the most complicated tank a fair bit, so based on that I feel that they want it lowered.

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>>378732497
> mfw they add fucking heal checks into raid content
I didnt think i would miss swtor after living but atleast nims were hard.

>>378732524
Reduce damage done to your party.

>>378732524
>falling for my (You)
i'm a faggot esl retard, i missread it

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>>378732614
FUCK you

>>378732637
Day 1 Lv60 DPS will get instant queues from all of the Healers and Tanks doing the same dungeons.

Day 1 SAM and RDM will have 1+ hour queues and have to wait for said Tanks/Healers to do their Leveling and Lv50/60 roulettes, IF they even do that shit in the first week.

>>378732628
>he actually cares what the meta the top .001% of raiders will be using

>>378732679
when was the last time there was a real heal check, like...Odin? And that's only because even though the ilvl requirement was like 170 you definitely needed to be way higher than that.

>>378732407
White mages are kind of broken conceptually, the thing is they can fill health bars better than anyone, but thats the last thing people look for when it comes to FFXIV healers.
They would need DPS as good as an actual DPS, yet even that might not be enough.

>>378732468
Yeah. Weapons skills are all on the 2.5 GCD, those are the normal rotation skills. Anything you weave in between is an ability and won't proc the chakra chance.

Would like to point out Sole Survivor in the JP text has the previously PvP-only enhancement on it.

Marked target takes 10% increased damage.
If this is kept, DRK now has a Trick Attack equivalent.

>>378732774
I'm assuming the first week+ of SB will feature a swarm of RDM and SAM in Quarrymill.

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This expansion looks awful. They've dumbed down every class, even ones that were already simple. Warrior was an easy class to play and needed some ogcd skills to make it more fun, instead they stripped it of like 6 skills and gave you a shitty punch ability.

>>378732809
The only thing people look for since FFlogs was created is Jobs that increase party DPS, no one cares about someone else's personal DPS.

>>378732679
>hps mattering ever
>after 4 years
>especially with 2,5 gcd and 200 ping game design

it's survive raid aoe, heal up and repeat in like 30s, this game isn't wow where you spend the whole fight spamming aoe heals to survive constant damage

>>378732832
So we can't queue for potd outside quarrymill?.
Shame.

>>378732892
>this game isn't wow where you spend the whole fight spamming aoe heals to survive constant damage
i wish it was like that

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>>378732774
>Get RDM to 60 asap
>Do HW beast tribe quests/hunts while waiting for queue to pop to make the wait between MSQ level requirements much shorter

>>378732835
I haven't looked at WAR yet, what did it lose?

>Sole Survivor's Trick Attack effect now applies in PVE instead of PVP

Cuckshed it is Warriors :^)

>>378732818
this alone would put warrior into the shed and guarantee pld/drk comps

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>new dungeon preview
>underwater
>literally nothing different
>trash, boss, trash, boss, trash boss
>no mechanics like have to do things quickly before you drown

The people who make this game have ZERO creativity.

>>378732818
So its now pve relevant?

>>378732637
>>378732774
>>378732832

Dont' SAM and RDM start from level 1? I doubt many people are actually going to use them to play through the story immediately. Most people are probably just going to run Palace until 60 instead of bothering with dungeons.

>>378732379
>>378732437
You kind of don't, fucking everything you do build sword meter. It is a nice bonus for being at the right place in the right time, but it is hardly as mandatory as shit like DRG rng dancing.

>PLD, SCH/WHM, MNK, MCH. BLM
>PLD, SCH/WHM, MNK, MCH. BLM
>PLD, SCH/WHM, MNK, MCH. BLM

I've played BLM since 1.0 but switched to MCH main in Heavensward. I play SCH/WHM equally as a healer depending on my mood.

>>378733003
>Dont' SAM and RDM start from level 1?
50.

>>378733003
50 i believe.

>>378732963
wait what the fuck really?

>>378733003
they start at lv 50 lad

>>378732941
Going from 50-60 is insanely long.

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>>378732606
I didn't ask you to talk, I asked you for crit up.

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>>378732992

>underwater
>yfw Emerald Weapon FATE

>>378732963
>>378732818
You fucks better be serious couse my dick is rock hard now. I need proofs.

>>378732992
>people still are subbed to do more of the same over and over
if they learned something from hw is that it worked for 4 years, why would they drastically change now

>>378732891

FFLogs is a blight. All people care about is MUH PARSE, mechanics or having fun be damned.

No I'm not going to pad your DPS at my own expense. Go suck some dicks in ERP to get a group to inflate your numbers so you can feel good about yourself.

>>378733061
Just 30 POTD runs

>>378733087
No one with a brain is actually expecting the game to change in any major way.

>>378733016
>DPS increase
>Not mandatory
Oh boy I can't wait to party with shitheads like yourself.

>>378733060
>>378733052
>>378733051

Ah. My mistake.

>>378733093
Hello graylet.

>>378732832
N.Thanalan or W. Highlands.

>>378733069
There's no underwater combat.

There's a death animation but you can only get it from dying from a dot after going into the water

>>378733061
they are doubling the amount of xp you get from 50-60 like they did for pre 50 content once HW came out. plus if you have beast tribes maxed they give a fuck load

>>378732947
Bloodbath
Internal Release
Brutal Swing
Foresight
Fracture

>>378733160
is fategrinding faster than potd spam though? especially if you get a focused 4 man group together

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>>378733093
>Parselets refuse to do their basic jobs

Color me surprised

>>378733061

Not really. I got my DRG from 51 to 60 in about a day and a half with Palace, and this was with doing other stuff like running things on my MNK instead of just purely Palace back to back. I'm sure someone could easily do it in less time if they just kept running Palace without breaks.

>>378733132
>>378733087
A simple mechanic like get to point A before time runs out so you don't drown is not a major change.

>>378732947
path doesn't reduce damage anymoe
slashing is easily applied by sam and nin
infuriate is only avaiable in combat

>>378733216
>Fracture
>gained Rampart instead
kek what a loss

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>>378733080
apparently it's real

>SMN is dead
Do people actually believe this?
>People believe RDM will get a spot in raid comps because Vercure unlimited insta Verraise when they'll suffer MP issues
>Yes, RDM has a 10% Physical damage up for all party members for a few seconds, but...
>SMN can Raise without MP worries and has a permanent 5% attack and defense pet buff to all party members
>AoE is also better despite being nerfed

what is the name of the music that plays during the fight against nidhogg when you are protecting estinien

>>378733280
i will be honest, as much as i would love more complex dungeons, the playerbase is fucking beyond trash i rather have them do brainless duties and enjoy endgame content with someone else

yoshi was looking into savage 4man dungeons as a new potd option, so there is that to do something nice and avoid random shitters

>>378732992
>expecting anything from fucking dungeons of all things

Dungeons are nothing more than sandboxes for casual shitters.
Wait until we see what Omega looks like.

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l-lads

the line about pvp effect is gone

FUCKING DRK THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>378733450
Progenitor

>>378733379
>>378733514
Time for cuckshed WARbros.

>>378733379
>>378733514


Good lord. With this one drk cucked everyone into oblivion.

post your favorite SB music so far

>>378733450
>>378733523
Primogenitor*

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Too intelligent to play new WAR
Too heterosexual to play new PLD
Too stupid to play new DRK

>>378733220
It's not. Even pug 15min runs are faster

>>378733602
new DRK is probably easier than current DRK though
darkside doesn't drain mana

>>378733574
Ruby Sea night theme 2bh

>>378733559
>>378733563
i'm glad i leved all three tanks but fuck i preferred Wars play style the most

>>378733514
>>378733379
Are u sure moonfags? Last line looks same to me.

>>378733139
>implying i won't be trying to hit positionals on purpose
It is not a fucking minuet that i refused to use on principle.

You hit positional, good, you don't, shame, but not end of the world. That's far better design than DRG or MNK who get fucked if the tank decided to spaz out and turn boss.

Reading these threads, it seems the game's main problems is that it's players are shit.

Maybe you all should make some friends.

>>378733687
last line mentions nothing about pvp

>>378732832
This. There's already info out for how it's going to work, assuming the armory buff kicks in to 100%. 35(or so) runs on 51-60 to level from 50-60. It's very easy to speed run with a properly minded group. Skipping monsters, using strength poms, not going out of the way for chests. Only need like 64 in atherpool to be sync capped for that level range.

Any serious RDM/SAM will be 60 in a day and then over in SB content quick. Never underestimate how fast some people can level.

>>378733514
>PvP Area Additional Effect

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>>378733514
DARKNESS ALWAYS WINS BAY-BEE

>>378733687
the final nip line has green text for additional effect, and a 10%. theres no longer space for a line saying its pvp only. you do the math

>>378733704
Obsession with DPS.

>>378733687
Remember PVP gets its own skillset, no PvE actions will be there

>>378733465
Are you kidding? Raids in this game are shit. It's just a boss fight. That's not a raid. People don't call EX Primals raids even though they are the same thing.

>Last tier was easy partly because of stacking all the damage buffs
>HEY WHAT IF WE GAVE EVERYONE STACKING DAMAGE BUFFS

>>378733754
wheres the duration on the pvp additional effect then?

>>378733574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0YzN11RObk

The music that starts around 1:40

>>378733730
Is there a way to only queue for that range?.
Is upper levels even worth it?.

>>378733659
>darkside doesn't drain mana
So what's the point of it? Might as well remove it and just buff all skills appropriately.

>>378733836
yes you can queue specifically for 51 floor start

>>378733869
fucks me m8, they probably want to keep the thematics of it

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so the info was wrong?

Is MNK saved or still rekt?

>>378733780
I never called Omega a raid you fucking autist.
Doesn't change the fact that it will have the most challenging and mechanics-heavy fights of the expansion.

>>378733836
>Is there a way to only queue for that range?.
Yes, you can only start a new save from floors 50-60.
>Is upper levels even worth it?.
Nah, they take more than 10 minutes to complete

>>378733869
just a straight buff like the ninja poisons? or like mch still needs the shitty gauss rifle even though cast times are gone.

>>378733914
Is okay.
Why don't you play whatever the fuck you want?

>>378733816
>blm/smn/mch lose raging strikes
>brd's version is nerfed to 10%

>mch/brd/mnk/nin lose b4b
>drg's version is nerfed

>hawk's eye removed entirely

??

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>Warrior gap closer costs 20 Beast Gauge
>literally no point in using it over Tomahawk to pull

>>378733869
It prevents mana regen in combat instead.

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> mfw drk one word makes drk best tank of new expansion

>>378734004
>muh gauges
Stormblood was a mistake. Not every job need these meme gauges.

>>378733914
It's fine. It got what it needed, and it will be using Forbidden Chakra more than ever. The gcd increase just cancels out the GL gcd decrease so it's fine

>>378734037
Passive mana regen or any mana regen?

>>378734059
All they do is visually represent the class's mechanics. I swear you niggers are the dumbest of the dumb. Next you'll be complaining that all jobs have abilities.

>grinding for a perfect all 5 star chocobo

this shit is worse then pokemon iv's

>>378733914

Could be better.

>>378734117
Passive and also any refresh effects. They can still regen their own mana with Syphon Strike, Blood Weapon and Blood Price like usual.

>>378730972
>>378730972
Same thing in the German and French localisations. (although they use prefixes insted of suffixes in French for the spells).
Koji is a hack.

>>378734120
>abilities
Enjoy your amnesia, cuck.

>>378734059
my main issue is what will happen next expansion? will they slap another gauge on the current gauges for lvl 80 skills? rework the gauge entirely?

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>>378732947

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>>378734114
>It's fine. It got what it needed
>no instant max GL
>no GL4

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>>378734121
Get on my level

>>378732407
The only thing that will save WHM is if they changed the boss encounters to have so much incoming damage that massive heals are actually necessary.

>>378734120
>All they do is visually represent the class's mechanics
That's not the point you retard.

>>378734117
>>378734156
Just to clear up, it never allowed for refresh effects in the first place. A ewer won't stick and the MCH/BRD effects won't work till you drop darkside.

>>378734004
i asume they'll make it free later, a gap closer is fun on tanks and Drks was free so why cost gauge if it doesnt do something else?

>>378732817

so? me and my monk buddies dont have 2,5 GCD.

>>378734208
I'm trying? doesnt seem to be any real sure way to do it besides grind a shitload of chocobos

>>378734156
Do we get to use blood weapon in grit at least? If it's not will dropping grit to pop blood weapon be viable?

>>378734202
maybe WARs will be able to keep the slashing debuff up more consistently now

>>378734206
If you want max GL quick just use perfect balance -> 3x snap punch

GL4 isn't necesarry with the other self buffs it got

>>378734202
>Raw Intuition.
Wtf, i thought they removed parry

>GAUSS BARREL HEAT UP
>OVERHEAT BLAST THEM ALL
>SELF DESTRUCT THE TURRET
>SCORCH THE EARTH

Man what the fuck I thought MCH was just a small group of goons who wanted to help Ishgard through technology? How did they turn into complete madmen

>>378734432
they removed parry as a sub-stat. You can still parry attacks.

>>378732992
>Dungeons have been literally this since day one
>Suddenly expecting anything different
???

Any vid that shows Higanbana and Guren animation?

>>378734432
They removed Parry as a stat, not as a mechanic

favorite raid battle music?

>>378733384
>Ruin 3 lost 50 potency
>Fester lost 100 potency
>Bane got utterly gutted
>The tooltip for Devotion was wrong and it only grants 1 party member the damage up buff.
>You no longer lose Aetherflow stacks during downtime, but the tradeoff is if you whiff Bane or Fester, and you only have 2 stacks of Aethertrail, then because of how the new job UI works, you will only get 1 stack of Aetherflow the next time you use Aetherflow.

We got fucked

>>378734447
m8 did you see the girl in the machinist quest

>>378734447
When in doubt just set it on fire

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>>378734304
If you understand breeding mechanics it's easier. You need to think of chocobos by two metrics: potential, and the % chance to achieve that potential.

Their potential is the max number of stars they could achieve based on the highest ratings of both their mother and father's side. The chance they will achieve that potential is halved for every stat that does not have the same rating on both sides. E.g. if both mother and father's side have 3 stars in all stats, offspring has 15-star potential with a 100% chance. If Mother has all 5-stars but Father has all 3-stars, then potential is 15-20 stars, with a 0.5 ^ 5 = ~3% chance to achieve 20 stars.

>>378730195
I'm still pissed about this because it assumes that everyone has subhuman intelligence because they can't incorporate the gravity of an action to a word. I mean how fucking hard can it be to understand that Cure/Cura/Curaga are single target heals with Curaga having an additional aoe.

>>378734363
You still can't use Blood Weapon in Grit. However, you now can't use Blood Price OUT of Grit.

>>378730019
Don't put an edition in the OP otherwise some Jabroni mod will most likely delete it

>>378734208
is it all luck or was there something you can do to get this?

>>378734447
ALLAHU AKBAR

>>378734000
>drg's version is nerfed

I can't say for the others, but DRG got potency buffs on most of their weapon skills. So the nerf to b4b just re-balanced the burst to sustain.

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>>378734519
>ACN jobs down to 2 dots (Bio and Miasma)
>Fester now only affected by those two
>Buff Fester's damage to 150 potency for one dot
>Only 200 potency for two

it's literally just Painflare now.

can someone explain to me the drk changes

I struggled maximizing drk vs war/pld in HW, am I going to struggle even more in SB?

>>378734482
>>378734498
Well, better than nothing, but still bad

>>378734573
That's even more retarded.

>>378734173
>rarely used mechanic
I forgot that existed outside of an uncommon potd trap.

tfw whm will be needed for that "lifegrip" mechanic in a random raid fight

>>378734519
>Forgetting the 30% pet buff and Ruination

>>378734590
See: >>378734545
It took me about 25 chocobos to go from Pedigree 1 to 20-star Pedigree 9.

I also did it back when breeding took 6 hours instead of the 30 minutes it takes now.

>>378734626
numbers are subject to change.

>>378734632
DRK seems simpler on the outset. You have two bars to manage instead of just one but on the other hand you have only two real combos now and the rest is down to figuring what you spend your dark arts on (hint: it's the new Fell Cleave style skill)

>>378734626
And yet in all videos fester did more damage than painflare. The tooltip is off.

>>378734519
>You no longer lose Aetherflow stacks during downtime, but the tradeoff is if you whiff Bane or Fester, and you only have 2 stacks of Aethertrail, then because of how the new job UI works, you will only get 1 stack of Aetherflow the next time you use Aetherflow.
MUH GAUGES

>>378734626
Whilst reducing the recast time of Painflare to 5 seconds.

Painflare now does the same damage, with the same recast time, with the ability to hit multiple targets, without the worry about targeting an undotted enemy and screwing yourself out of an aetherflow stack.

May as well just take Fester off your hotbar, lad.

>>378734271
That's great, but none stack monks in any raid. Have fun if you do it but you're the weird exception.

>>378734704
It's a cross class ability so no it does not.

>>378734632
DRK is simpler but in some ways deeper. They lose Scourge and Low Blow/Reprisal are now cross-role skills that don't do damage. Delirium is now a cooldown that extends the duration of Blood Weapon/Price. Your only combos are Power Slash and Souleater.

You do Souleater combos and use Blood/Weapon Price to build blood, which can then be spent on Quietus/Bloodspiller which are the DRK equivalent of Decimate and Fell Cleave. Other than that it's just prioritizing what to use your MP on. Since Darkside no longer drains MP it's easier to maintain.

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>>378734713
>I also did it back when breeding took 6 hours instead of the 30 minutes it takes now.
Holy fuck, how long did that take?

Also is this acceptable for a P9 birb? Or should I really get back to breeding and try and get perfect stars and a better ability. I mainly just want to be able to farm the best race for MGP and beat the challenges

>>378733113
>>378733252
Is PotD really that good? I find it boring at best and impossible at Floor 40+ when you don't have a good party makeup

>>378734736
DA Bloodspiller is only a DPS increase if you're in Grit. Outside Grit you're going to want to spend your MP on DA Souleater for the HP regen in addition to increased damage.

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>>378734713
i'll keep trying, this is probly my fifth choco since reaching ped 9. just keep getting fucked in one stat or another, like the one before this had a damn 2 start for both mother and father in speed.

>>378734447
Eorzea calls for wet-work and we answer

>>378734925
51-60 is quick and easy, and awards a nice amount of exp.

>>378734925
>impossible at Floor 40+
what do you even mean by this
you can beat it with 4 DPS all the way up to floor 100 without any significant difficulties

>>378734925
>impossible at floor 40+

The fuck? How that is even fucking possible.

>>378734713
Wait, breeding only takes 30 minutes now? Since when? Maybe I'll go back and try getting that perfect chocobo then. Last time my spirit was crushed when I got perfect 4s in everything except speed and I just gave up.

>>378734202
>Bloodbath removed
SAD! I`ll miss those 'shwings'

>>378734891
It took me a few weeks.

That bird is pretty decent. 17-19 stars is fine if you're not autistic like me. Your chocobo has 19 star potential with 12% to achieve that potential. It would require a lot of luck but if you get a male with similarly decent stats you can breed a better one.

>>378734945
>tfw Power Slash will stay underused

>>378734925

It is boring as fuck, but arguably the fastest way to level alts.

>>378733914
They are still getting completely uninteresting skills gameplay-wise, their best addition is a system to use things they got 2 years ago more than once per fight. Everything else is only more oGCD things, not a single GCD skill to add to your rotation, only weaving.

>>378734993
>>378735007
Playing with people that just got their job to Lv30 and want to try it out, and don't understand the mechanics on Edda.

Or they run everywhere hitting traps.

>>378734925
>impossible at floor 40+
nigga, that shit isn't even hard solo on most jobs

>>378734619
>MNK weapon skill got nerfed because they get a 30% damage increase (coming from a 10% one) on a 90sec CD
>DRG potency weapon skill got buffed because they lost 15% damage on B4B 80sec CD
>Oh but DRG also get a 10% additional damage buff

I don't understand why SE hate MNK so much

>>378735089
Depends on if they've made enmity any harder to keep. Unlikely, but possible. They do seem to want tanks to stay in tank stance.