Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood

first for SAM is shit

>>378723751
>was excited for Samurai
>it's essentially heavensward monk in that it brings absolutely no utility to the raid other than high damage
>tfw no one's gonna want samurais in their party because of this

even worse, I main dark knight currently and it got jack shit and the meta will shift back to WAR/PLD and I hate it

fucking kill me

Who cares about the meta. Play what you enjoy playing. That is the key to having fun in an MMO.

>>378723865
>>tfw no one's gonna want samurais in their party because of this
are you fucking disabled?
>I main dark knight currently and it got jack shit
oh, yes you are

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>>378723813
Remember to pay your respects for the fallen

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>>378723751
Who's ready for the final boss of Stormblood?

>>378723873
What if I enjoy being the best?

>>378723865
4 SAM already shit out more damage than any current meme comp.

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>>378723940

>>378723865
can't tell if people are saying this ironically to try and trim down the numbers of incumbent SAM or they're actually fucking stupid

>>378723943
Do you enjoy trying to be the best? Because that is what you will be doing most of the time.

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NIN still have slashing debuff people.

>>378723960
is there a source for this?
like i wouldn't be surprised but i dunno if that's just people memeing it up

3.0 was a disappointment but I was still alright since Holy was unbeatable and Assize was great.

4.0 has convinced me to abandon WHM and go all-in on AST.

Honestly if WHM needed all the different healing methods they were given, it wouldn't be a let-down. But incoming damage is not high enough in this game to warrant 2093242 ways to heal with only one knock-back and a single-target sleep (lel try using them in a boss fight loser). I will still get it to 70, but I probably will skip relic for the first time ever. It hurts to let go of the class I started with but SE has decided that WHM will remain irrelevant in end-game content.

>>378724028
Kaiten + madere = 1080 potency for one attack from sam

So what does Dancing Edge do now?

>>378723939
Fuck you, I expect SMN to BTFO single-targets in place of our nerfed AOE. Potencies are subject to change before launch anyway, hence why they keep plastering the "In development footage" on all the recent videos.

>>378724137
Not existing.

I'm in the WHM cuckshed.
Please laugh at me.

>>378724021
Where are these from?

>>378724172
I'm not laughing because WHM is the king of dungeon running now.

>>378724134
PLUS the slashing debuff PLUS the inbuilt SAM damage buff PLUS balance from the pocket AST

>>378723873
>play WHM
>all PFs are locked down to SCH + AST
>people immediately drop party as soon as they see a WHM in trial roulette or a 24-man
>literally impossible to find a static
Pretty hard to "play what I enjoy playing" if you're not wanted at all.

Reminder that Dragoon and Summoner are great-wyrm chanelling bros 4 life

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>>378724169
>Not existing.
>still shown in Benchmark

Bravo, Yoshida.

>>378724157
>I expect SMN to BTFO single-targets in place of our nerfed AOE
>nerfed ruin spells
>nerfed mp regen
>bahamut once every two minutes who will barely do fuck all outside his two 600 potency attacks
>less dot potency due to contagion change
Yeah no

>>378724258
please tell me Yojimbo is more than just a dungeon boss

>>378724202
WHM is already the best dungeon healer

Literally who cares though except ex roullette warriors

>>378723932
I'm trying to
>>378724005

I don't wanna be in a palace of the dea group of 4 samurai

>>378724306
He's an add in a primal boss

>ranged dps: blm
>melee dps: drg
>tank: drk
>support: ast

Who /avoidedthecuckshed/ here?

/vg/ - Video Game Generals
This board is for the posting of video game "general" threads, which are long-term, recurring threads about a specific topic.

so why is it that you're making a new "general" on /v/?

>>378724021
>trick attack still the premiere damage amp
>dwad buffed and lines up with ta now
>ten-chi-jin looks absolutely silly
>poisons always on, and affect all damage now
>no more waiting 20 seconds every pull
>applying slashing isn't a dps loss
>frogs
two more years, babey

>>378724250
None of that is actually going to happen. Stop with the fucking victim complex. People still took WHM, MNK, and PLD into Creator and did just fine.

>>378724315
SCH was close behind tho.
Now even AST is better lol

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>>378724358
what

>>378724028
SAM has ridiculously high potencies on top of a mantained damage boost buff

Kaiten buffs the next damage skill by 150% and only has a 5s cooldown (costs 20 kenki)

Additionally they have:

A 35 potency dot with a ridiculous timer (60s)
Another buff that reduces all timer shit by 10%
Slashing debuff
Perfect balance that's only on an 80s coodlwon

>>378724369
>no more waiting 20 seconds every pull
explain?

>>378724382
It's just benchmark showcase.

Aery Nidhogg was 8 man boss too in HW benchmark.

>>378724363

I bet you think you're clever and original, coming into this thread to tell us that /vg/ exists.

How about you check it out for yourself and see why we don't want to talk with those degenerate shitstains.

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>>378724382
He got fucked

>>378724358
>>378724306
>Yojimbo
>not the Primal of the Qiqirn

welp, pre-order cancelled

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Is this a highlander, a Roe or a Lizard?

>>378724515
Highlander

SMN is fine, stop complaining. The nerfs looked like it suffered a lot but the buffs and new skills balanced it out.

I cant tell if War got cucked or not

>>378724515
Ears on top of the helmet suggest man-cat

>>378724448
>>378724483
>>378724485
m-maybe its just the benchmark
maybe he'll get something good in the actual game
pls yoshi

>>378724250

I main WHM and you're overexaggerating. The only time people don't want WHM is when they're tying to parse big on FFlogs or they're being elitist cunts, and that's generally regulated to PF groups for farming end-game content. Most people don't care what you play as long as you play well.

>>378724442
Hide rests ninjutsu recast
So you can Huton -> Hide -> Suiton
instead of now which is Huton -> wait 20 secs -> Suiton

>>378724515
probably a highlander since he's not square like a roe and the spikes are just spikes, not the au ra ear-horns

>>378724442
hide resets ninjutsu now
so huton then hide and you're ready to go with a full huton timer

>>378724565
That's a big fucking man cat.

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>>378724565
>Fester has a potency nerf
>only two dots instead of three
> misama 2 no longer an aoe,
>bane has a 80% potency nerf(Bio has a 40 potency with bane it's potency is now 8 which is nothing),
>aetherflow recovers 10% mp instead of 20,
>we lost blizzard 2,
>ruin 3 lost 50 potency
>ruin 4 has same potency as current ruin 3 but it's a proc
>bahamut only shows up one minute after pull starts meaning you can't allign your damage with other party buffs
>after that bahamut will only show up once every two minutes
>shadow flare is now an ocd you can use every 60 seconds so you can't place another one down as soon as it ends
>aetherflow now refunds 10% mp instead of 20

>>378724439
Both NIN and DRG got potency boosts, I believe they'll rival SAM in terms of gcd combos. But SAM weaving in their ogcd's and setting up for their big dick number will push them far ahead. Also they don't lose any potency on their attacks for being in the wrong place, only kenki generation.

so DRK will still be okay to play right?

>>378724582
Yojimbo will probably just be a dungeon final boss, since they're recycling his FFX model.

>>378723402
>The only reason for this change is probably just so that tanks don't get a huge DPS boost from food

Now that you put it that way, it makes way more sense. I knew I was forgetting something, but that seems like a plausible cause.

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>>378724658
All the tanks looking pretty solid now

>>378723751
I just started doing Manderville Quests, I'm on the Costa ones now, and they just really exemplify why XIV is so good. The world has so much character

>>378724627
>Fester has a potency nerf
stop spreading the same false info every thread

>>378724659
At least it's his FFXHD model because he doesn't look as blocky as his OG model

>>378724627
at least shadowflare is free I guess

Also you can take Lucid Dream for MP generation. I mean what else are you going to take?

Your options:
>Caster Shared Actions
>Addle - Virus with a new name and icon.
>Break - 50 potency spell which applies 40% heavy for 20s. On the GCD.
>Drain - 80 potency spell which converts a portion of its damage to HP.
>Diversion - Quelling Strikes with a new name and icon.
>Lucid Dream - Halves enmity and refreshes MP. 80 potency, 21s duration, 120s cooldown.
>Swiftcast - Same as now.
>Manashift - Gifts 20% of the caster's MP to an ally. 150s cooldown.
>Apocatastasis - Now a role-shared action, no longer BLM exclusive.
>Surecast - Same as now, presumably.
>Erase - Removes DoTs from a party member. Can't be used on self. 90s cooldown.

You'll take Addle Diversion, Lucid Dream, Switfcast, and then a 5th thing of your choosing.

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>>378724747
?

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>>378724658
Yes

DRK/PLD are good MTs and OTs, while WAR seems to have serious trouble as anything but OT. They do have the slashing debuff, although NIN has one baked into Shadow Fang, and SAM requires one to be used as well.

Unless WAR has the raw DPS to make up for the extra utility that PLD/DRK bring, it might be losing its spot

>>378724627
>>aetherflow recovers 10% mp instead of 20
False.

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>>378723940

>>378724848
The Jap tooltip disagrees with you.

>>378724480
I dont fucking care what you think about the state of the general, there are board rules when it comes to topics that are allowed. this thread should not be on /v/, period. if you want to have a general thread about ONE video game, go to /vg/

>the Monk theme'd expansion
>Monks kit is still 2crazy5me

fuck

>>378724658
Yeah

I'm jumping in the PLD bandwagon because they're going to be nuts until 4.1 at least but I'm leveling DRK right after

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>>378724848
>10%
>10%
It's true

>>378724708
the Hildy quests are the best examples of reaction faces the game has to offer

>>378724905
>muh rules
i'm going to shove you in a locker, nerd

>>378724747
since Bios and Miasmas were merged together into just Bio and Miasma, that means 2 dots to maintain, and 2 dots which affect Fester.

They buffed the single dot strength to 150 but the 2 dot version is only 200 potency, not 300.

>>378724627
>Baha is a minute in so it doesn't align with other buffs
Except most other DPS classes also have buffs to put up so the "opener" will get moved a minute into the encounter, or even more.

>>378724627
Bane has a 80% nerf?

>>378724894
>>378724935
Well SMNs get Lucid Dream anyway. I don't see how this is a problem.

>>378724905
Tell me do you do the same thing for persona fags, souls fags, console wars fags, waifu fags, sony fags and nintendo fags?

>>378725017
It's literally the same as Painflare now so I expect it to be changed to 300.

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>>378724929
What's happening in 4.1?

>>378724708
>>378724964
They need to scrap the main story and have the game be 100% Hildy.

>>378724964
They make me wonder why the msq cutscenes aren't as good

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>>378725047
Yep

>>378725035
>battle lit always used instantly in an encounter
>trick attack a little bit after
>smn has to wait for bahamut one minute in

>>378724905

/vg/ nominally prohibits avatarfagging, blogging, and off-topic discussion (ERP and social shit), but they aren't censured. If you care about the rules get the mods and jannies to purge the /xivg/ threads so they're usable by normal people. Also, tell the endless (popular game here) threads to get out of your console wars board.

>>378725047
Bane has diminishing returns right off the bat, 20% off second target, 40% off third, 60% off fourth and 80% off the rest.

has a thing which has a chance to reset dot timers now but whatever

Did they make Warrior even more stupid?

>>378723751
>on gilga
>someone wants to play with me
>I have to transfer or start over

If you refer someone they should get on your server regardless of the lock

>>378725062
It really isn't. Red mage is the only caster dps that has a reason to worry about mp.

>>378724973
>>378725065
if you have a problem with the state of your general on /vg/, report the posts you feel are breaking the rules.

>recurring threads about a specific topic

belongs in a general on /vg/. why even have /vg/ if you're just going to make your general here on /v/?

>>378725158
>hey this happens in 3.5 so I'm sure it'll happen in 4.0
Ninja has a gauge to build up, and Dragoon's Eyes are gated by jumps.

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>>378725214
Fuck that, then everyone would just ask randos for referrals to get on Gilgamesh.

Fuck off and find somewhere else, Balmung and Gilgamesh are full to bursting.

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>>378725195
they gutted alot of our utility and Storms Path, i'm concerned, but at the same time.

6 Fell Cleaves lol

>>378725113
Oh hey, they are the same. Huh, Guess Painflare is getting a 20 potency nerf to fix that.

Stop taking this bait. They try this shit every other thread.

>>378725187
It can reset targets now anyway.

Gentle reminder to report and ignore backseat janitor shitposter.

>>378725280
why dont they just have the phases or w/e WoW is doing, then servers would barely fucking matter. i transfered before the lock because it was fucking depressing seeing no one anywhere then i go to gilga and its like a entirely different game.

>>378725315
>>378725334
you're ruining /v/ with threads that belong on a different board. fuck off.

>>378725195
Unless their DPS is absolutely bonkers, they have a hard time justifying a raid slot alongside everything that PLD/DRK can bring, especially if there's a SAM or a NIN in the party to cover the Slashing debuff

>>378725280
Make all the shitters that came in 3.x transfer back.

But I like BRD and BRD is saved now.

>>378725291
>6
8, get with the times.

>>378725384
we are actually talking about the game everyone in vg just erps and mosts there shit characters, fuck off.

>>378725365
Because that's a shitty system, neck yourself for ever considering it.
>>378725384
7/10, you earned this (You).

>>378725365
They could merge small servers like Goblin+Mateus+Zalera but won't because housing.

They should just split Balmung in twain and just pick who gets on which server totally random. It'll cause a riot but who cares

>>378725291
Was going to run pld, but got pidgeonholed into Warrior due to maining it for all of 3.0. Other member of my group has seniority.

>>378725384

"Kore wa.. beito desu."

Getting my weeb skills up to par for SAM, thanks for helping me there bud.

>>378725401
>DRK can bring
kek

>>378724842
On my personal opinion, I can see merits for all three different tank compositions now. PLD/DRK for maximum utility/mitigation, PLD/WAR for good mitigation/dps, DRK/WAR for best dps. I wouldnt say any of the tanks will end up in shed, and depending on fights, we might even seen different compositions across two turns of a raid.

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I fucking love this. Was it stated how long the Excogitation buff lasts or is it the new Stoneskin?

>alright everyone hold still for 7 minutes while I put Excogitation on everyone

>>378725437
>>378725445
you're making a recurring thread about a specific topic/game, so it belongs on a different board. why is this such a difficult concept for you to understand? you're even naming it the same every time as well. go make these threads on /vg/, you have that board.

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>finally unlock Ninja
>do a palace run to gain some exp
>all these mudra combos I don't know anything about
>have to keep stopping and looking to see which combos do what
>keep doing Doton when I want Huton
>don't ever really get a chance to see what the other non-ninjutsu skills do
This'll take some getting used to.

>>378724250
Unless you're raiding savage you will literally have no issue, WHM will still be fine in dungeons cause everything is, and 24man for the same reason.
Don't buy into the memes here that tell you that class A or class B is completely unplayable now, that's never been the case in FFXIV, though some jobs have been shit for progression which is why you'll see statics not look for them.

>>378725291
The fuck did they do to Storm's Path? For that matter it looks like they removed strength down from pld's RoH too.

>>378725569
How about you fuck off to /vg/ if you love it so much

>>378725569
I bet you do this in filename threads too faggot

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>>378725569
You don't fucking understand how bad /vg/ is

>>378725569
Now go into the constant persona threads, rising storm threads, overwatch threads, porn threads and bloodborne """leak""" threads and say that.

>>378725537
Japanese info clarified you can only put it on one person at a time. No info on actual duration but guessing there isn't any.

>>378725537
Will Excognition be able to be used with Deployment Tactics? I could see it if it doesn't have a time limit just to prevent 7 mins between pulls

>>378725592
Ninjutsu are easy. Normal rotation is just 1-2,1-2,1-2-3 on repeat once you have armor crush to keep huton up.

>>378725428
Wat
How??
I though it was already confirmed to be 6 max?

>>378725485
DRK's potencies are extremely high, some of the theorized Delirium uses are more or less equivalent to the WAR FC spam, since DRK doesn't have any offensive CDs to rely on, just pumps out damage constantly

Also, TBK is a free Stoneskin on anyone, including the MT, every 15s, and is crucial for the DRK to build Blood, that shielding is going to be extremely useful

Should I be selling my demi/mhachi/whatever matter ? Or should I save them until right at SB release ? Or when everyone's reached 70?

>>378725592
you silly pupper, why not take a moment to practice on a dummy?

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>>378725280
I think they should offer free server transfers off of balmung and gilgamesh

>>378725602
all of the stat down stuff got removed

>>378725690
If he isnt lying, I think it has something to do with the Enhanced Unfuriate trait. No other way.

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>>378725516
This. I'm looking forward to all the tanks being actually worthwhile.

We have already had this shitposting numerous times. Stop responding to it.

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About to make a new character, what class should I go? I've been out of the loop for forever.

>>378725737
They...did though?

>>378725737
pretty sure theyre doing just that nerd

>>378724935
Where'd you get these nip non-mizzshit tooltips?

>>378725592
everytime i enter palace for the first time on a new class i just do the bare minimum and read abilitys the whole time, nin definitely takes come getting used to but its worth as fuck. its positionals isnt as retarded as MNK but has great utility

>>378725716
Sell them now there will probably be grade 6 versions of the same materia at 70

>>378725737
They are doing it but only for EU fuckers. NA users still have to pay

>>378725775
famitsu

>Maim and Mend affects pets now giving them 30% more damage and HP restoration, making Sustain and Spur obsolete
>Tri-Disaster buffs Ruin spells to 20 more potency
>DWT resets Tri-Disaster, effectively replacing Contagion. Then there's DWT's existing 10% magic damage buff, too
>Their pets get a permanent 5% damage and defense buff
>Demi-Bahamit does 160 potency damage in unison with your attacks plus can use two 680 potency Akh Morns, making it about 2160 potency damage every 2 minutes
SMN is still alright in single-target and utility standards.

>>378725757
GLD/MRD/ACN (roll sch later)/CNJ for fast queues if you want to get to SB before it launches

>>378725757

It'll be changed in three weeks anyway, so just play something that looks fun. Unlock everything and fuck around in Palace of the Dead until you find something that suits you.

>>378725592
>originally you would just gradually unlock everything so you learn your combos as you level up
>POTD now just shits out dead eyed max levels who have barely learned their rotation because you don't need to in POTD
>Stormblood is bringing skip potions to bypass everything entirely
I'm going to die

MCH OR BRD WHICH IS MORE META TELL ME NOW I CANT PICK I NEED TO BE IN DEMAND BEFORE I WASTE MY TIME

>>378725775
https://www.famitsu.com/news/201705/31134234.html?page=9

>>378725815
They're doing like High V and Master V or something.

not sure why they just didn't do VI and VII

>>378725690
Using Fell Cleave (or the other 3 skills of that type we have in the game now) reduces cooldown of Infuriate.

>>378725636
You realize we outnumber the fucking faggots in /xivg/ right? If we went there and talked about this shit we'd run them out

>>378725680
1-2 being Raiton? What is 1-2-3?

>>378725729
I wanted to level.

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This fucking new skill may be the only thing that will make me want to stay on SCH.

>>378725617
>>378725630
>>378725636
>>378725659
why are you so hostile? you have a dedicated board to recurring threads about one specific game/topic, it's called /vg/. on that board you already have a general dedicated to the very topic you are creating over and over here on /v/. why are you doing this? there's a reason the site is set up with different boards.

>>378725569
Why aren't all these constant Fire Emblem Heores threads deleted then? It's literally mobile gacha shit too which is perfect for /vg/

>>378725762
>>378725774
that's for EU players you retards

>>378723939
How is SMN dead? Mutil-flare for days going on with sick Bahamut summon. AN ACTUAL SUMMON FFS

If he stops getting (You)s, he will kill himself or bother another thread. Just don't reply.

>>378725892
3 part ninjutsu will either be Huton (should only be done once and mantained with armor crush or whatever if it changed in SB), Doton (for AoE) and Suiton (for trick attack)

>>378725893
It's the only thing keeping SCH out of the c*ckshed.

>>378724582
I mean he could be both, he's Yojimbo after all

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>>378725602
All the tank-specific damage down debuffs are gone, Reprisal is tank crossrole, Feint is a phys Virus melee crossole, and Addle is a magic Virus for caster crossrole

The group mitigation focus has shifted somewhat from the healers/tanks to everyone, somewhat

>>378725428
>>378725690
>>378725880
Pressing multiple FCs in a row outside of Release isn't really possible, let alone optimal.

WAR is actually quite rote with their gauge usage:

>4 FCs inside Berserk
>6 FCs + 1 Upheaval inside Release Berserk
>1 Upheaval in between Berserks
The Infuriate trait, sadly, doesn't seem to let any of this come out any better, as being late on your Infuriate will cut into your gauge for Berserk.

It seems very inflexible atm and I hope it changes

post your favorite music of heavensward

SO
is WHM still shit after the tooltip changes?

>>378726002
Every two minutes with all your other abilities getting nerfed into the ground

You'll never make summoner players happy. They ALWAYS have something to bitch about.

>>378725831
Every time this is posted it gets mostly ignored, the hate train is so strong

>>378725873
Brd probly though i think Mch looks good as fuck, i think they are trying to balance it to where each class has its own small raid utility instead of a few classes having a ton.

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>feel good hearing about MNK buffs during the last infodump
>learn about the new changes today
I fucking swear this is penance for all those people that forced the chakra farm bullshit and now I have to suffer for it.

>>378725937
>on that board you already have a general dedicated to the very topic you are creating over and over here on /v/
except we actually talk about the game here, trying to do so over on /xivg/ gets you drowned out in attentionwhoring, RP'ing and general faggotry
go take a look at /xivg/ if you're curious because i sure as hell don't want to go back there

>>378726005
>i can't counter his arguments so i'm just going to ignore him

>>378725892
Suiton.

At 60 you will go suiton-raiton-raiton-suiton on single target. Aoe is just doton-katon-katon-doton.

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>>378725893
>staying sch when ast has free critlo potency shields and still has 20% balance
lmao

also reminder that whm mains are currently having a whm strike on fairie to teach president yoshi a lesson
this community is really pathetic

>>378726002
they lose a lot battle potency due to the combining of Dots (Bio III only has 40 potency, I think Miasma III is 35?), Fester losing some strength and Bane getting nerfed so their AoE is paltry now.

Still decent single target

>>378725937
Except if any "recurring thread" went on /vg/ then any new and upcoming games would be banished from /v/

Generals are better suited for long running series or broader genres. Threads talking about a major expansion pack to an MMO a mere two weeks before it comes out are fine on /v/. Eventually the excitement will die down and people who still want to talk about FFXIV will go to /vg/ but for now it's a new thing.

>tfw not a MNK
>tfw dislike monks
>tfw shit on them for years for standing in shit because they were too worried about their slimy lightning stacks and otherwise just lazy

Sure buddy, I'll charge your jerk-off crystal with my 30k sword swings.

>>378726042
Whm is even worse.

>>378726073
Fuck you I was happy with how HW SMN was

>>378726105
Stop responding to old bait.

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>>378726124
>also reminder that whm mains are currently having a whm strike on fairie to teach president yoshi a lesson
Are you serious?

>>378725937
First learn how to filter.
Follow that up with a tall glass of bleach.
Don't act like you care about the content on this board, or your stupid ass would be preaching this shit in much worse, and much more frequent topics.

>>378726083

It's almost like people who want to be angry will find any excuse to stay angry.

SMN will be fine. They aren't WHM, after all. :^)

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>Japanese Kaiten tooltip explicitly stated "Incease next weaponskill potency TO 1.5 times"
>still managed to translate it to "increase next weaponskill potency by 150%"

>>378726145
What the fuck? Literally how did they manage to make it worse?

>>378725743
Fucking lame.

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>>378726014
>>378726117
Rad, thanks guys.

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>>378726030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJqcwGwU8a8

>Everyone trying to shit on each other jobs
>Excitied to play RDM

I love video games!

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>>378725937
Fuck you this is /xivg/ right now I'm not staying with these retards

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>>378726227
Whm lost like 4 abilities that became cross class and did receive any utility.

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>>378725831
Oh yeah and what do we lose? Hmmmmmm
It's almost like these "buffs" don't make up for the damage lost. Oh well

>>378726292
dumb phoneposter

>>378726223
>same thing

>>378726246
i'm just scared Rdm will be the launch AST of the expansion considering how strong SAM looks

>>378726105
Actually false.
The lulls in hard gameplay discussion are filled with the nonstop highschool drama that permeates any MMO /vg/ thread which gives the illusion that they just flat out don't talk about the game.
If you want to discuss a real problem with that thread, it's that it attracts a ban evading career autist who flood the thread with low quality porn any time the thread takes a turn they don't like literally 24 hours per day for three years. I highly suspect it's the same person trying to derail the thread right now.

>>378726179
That's dumb, but really being loud about how stupid the seeming state of the White Mage is probably not a bad idea.

Like, I found a lot of the doom and gloom annoying because I was sure it was going to be proven wrong and White Mage would gain some nice things.

Instead we get low chance procs on spells White Mages cast as little as possible to get a slight cooldown timer reduction, and a second proc based off the same spells and *nothing else*

>Get lily stacks by only casting Cure 1 and 2.

You get fucking punished for playing WHM optimal. Why does it not proc on stuff like regen or at least give it a higher proc.

>>378726124
Earthly Star is pretty fucking cool too

>placed AoE bomb thing
>can set off right away for 650 potency(?) heals and 160 potency damage or something
>If you wait 10s before setting it off it upgrades to 900 potency heals and 200 potency damage
>only 60s cooldown
>looks badass

>>378726179
check leddit under the new tab

>>378726292
>phone poster
You belong with them

>>378726340
You're not much for English are you

>>378726242
Mah nigga.
Though Day theme is better for me just because of this part.
https://youtu.be/OBLN4O6rZs4?t=234

>>378726246

How dare you be excited for something. You must be upset about non-final dev builds and untested theorycrafting like everyone else.

I'm excited for RDM too. Will level it once I get all the healers to 70.

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>>378726292
>immediate 404

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anyone have all the DRG stuff

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>>378726315
Cry more, jesus christ

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>>378726379
>tfw almost equally excited for RDM and SAM
>going with SAM since friend is going RDM

>>378726379
I'm theorycrafting but RDM's rotation is obviously proc based. Only wonder how their MP will hold up.

>>378726331
>>378726372
The hell? What's wrong with posting with a phone now?

>Dont raid ever

What is the purpose of the offtank?

Backup, like if the president dies?

>>378726083
Most people who play SMN are actually stupid. The only thing they should be really angry about is the Bane nerf, Shadowflare nerf, Miasma II gone and Blizzard II becoming inacessible which hurt its AoE DPS but it's nothing to be so concerned about when fights mostly have such short mob phases.

I had my moment of SMN being bad now at first but after an analysis, SMN is actually nicer to play now and I'm looking forward to it.

>>378726420
>powersurge gone
>Phleb gone
>brb down to 15%

>>378726223
To be fair you can read "increase X by 100%" as effectively doubling the value of X.

>>378726461
alot of raids have strong as fuck adds or a tank swap mechanic like vulnerability up stacking

>>378725485
DRK is in the best shape of all 3 tanks. Blackest Night is OP as fuck and Bloodspiller is retardedly strong.

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>>378725831
I just really want to test it all out for myself to see.

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>>378726439
well they can use Lucid Dream, dunno if they have personal MP recovery.

>>378726461
Adds, backup, tank swaps because boss keeps giving stacking debuff and if you get too much you die

etc

>>378726359
this is correct and is also the most broken healing skill in the game

and i thought nothing could ever top indomitability, i love stormblood now

>>378726356
Yeah that's my main beef with the Lillies/Confessions stuff - it seems like it's trying to make you heal mostly with just oGCDs so you can focus fully on DPS, but then only generates from your standard cure spam, and generates fucking slowly.

I actually kinda like the concept, but feel like they both need to work with regen or have some way to generate on purpose when needed.

>>378726345
christ it's way worse than when i was last there, making me even gladder i got out of that place

wasn't there some guy who literally shat on someone else's character?

>>378726485
>To be fair you can read "increase X by 100%" as effectively doubling the value of X.
That's exactly the point. It doesn't.

>>378726539
Yeah, could be in a later build possible. Makes me wonder if the JP tooltips are from a newer build and the NA got an older one, or just a mistranslation.

There's always ether pots too, and BRD/MCH giving MP while BLM can tranfer their MP as well.

>>378726539
They don't, unless it's added between now and release. If MP problems are really bad I expect them to add/increase MP gain from melee

>>378726539
Fuck, I wasn't going to level a new class until after the craze dies down but RDM looks so fun.

>>378726485
If it was written as "to 150%" it means a x1.5 multiplier. but it's "by 150%", which is supposed to mean a x2.5 multiplier.

So it should either be "to 150%" or "by 50%"

>>378726563
one guy printed out a pic of someone's character and shit on it, yes
some other guy shit in a box for unrelated reasons and posted it
the general is incredibly good and cool

>>378723751
Reminder that there's literally no reason to play WHM ni SB.

>>378726554
Yoshi-P and them are stubborn as fuck so please look forward to waiting a year to fix it.

>>378726461

MT holds boss aggro and shit.

OT picks up adds, swaps with MT when necessary (stacking debuffs or death), helps out with mechanics (sometimes they have ones just for them, like standing at the front of a line nuke to soak damage that would kill a non-tank), and DPSes when they have nothing else to do.

>>378726539
>they have a raise
>my dick
>they have a cure
>my dickkkkkkkkkk

>>378726607
Famitsu is newer. The older material is likely just quick, unedited translation rather than an attempt at a final result due to being too early in the balancing process.

>>378726716
Yeah, that's what I thought. No way a company would let that many translation errors through.

>>378726694
Ah I'm retarded I missed that.

>>378726227
Basically the problem with White Mage is that it's the strongest healer, but being the "strongest healer" doesn't actually mean much.

You see, since every bit of content needs to be beaten with any combination of jobs, they can't make dungeons or raids that do enough damage that the WHM's higher potency heal spells are needed.

This means that since all White Mage can do is throw out high potency heals (and high burst DPS spells, but much less sustained DPS), while Scholar and Astrologican bring unique support buffs to the table, there's no reason to bring White Mage, the extra healing is meaningless, so why not bring along shields, an extra heal-bot fairy, and offensive and defensive card buffs?

So, people waited for Stormblood to fix this, presumably by giving the White Mage some unique form of utility.

But nope!

Turns out they didn't do that, at all.

White Mages gain no utility, at most they can a personal sustain boost with the ability to ignore MP a little bit every couple minutes.

The WHM got a new system based off 20% procs coming off Cure 1 and Cure 2. As you get these procs the cooldowns of their OGCD heals decrease, but this isn't actually useful for some major reasons.

The main one is the fact that, remember what I said about WHM having the biggest heals in the game? Well they're big enough that most of the time you just need to cast Regen, a Heal over Time Spell, and your tank will be fine for most of the time, you only need to cast Cure 1 and Cure 2 when a tankbuster is used or some dumb DPS stood in AOE. So in short a good WHM *won't* be casting Cure 1/Cure 2 often, so they won't get the procs often, so the bulk of their new mechanic isn't be used if the WHM is good.

>>378726714
The raise is also affected by their dualcast thing so they can rapidly raise party members if absolutely necessary.

Would probably need to be mana shifted by BLM though

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>>378726563
Some guy cut himself because their discord was in the op. That general is crazy

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Who /PLD/ main here

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>>378726707
but it's MY favourite job and president yoshi RUINED it, doesn't matter if it's only mattering in raid and the hardest content i do is expert roulette and that i could simply play astro instead, he MUST be impeached!
#notmygamedirector

>>378726767
These are generally more typing mistakes than translation errors, although the 1.5/150 thing above does look like an actual error.

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>>378726795
>plays Au'Ra
>is a cutter
Not to be unexpected honestly.

>>378726476
Overall potency buff on everything to compensate tho.

>>378726708
Yep, I can almost foresee Patch 4.2 changes:
>Monk
+Riddle of Fire no longer decreases GCD
+Chakra gain no longer requires a crit
>White Mage
+Lilies/Confession can now be generated at a chance equal to Cure I/II with Regen ticks.
+Plenary cooldown reduced to 10.00s

>>378726795
>fem au ra
lol of course

>>378726795
I remember this they also had thread wars and mass reported a thread so they can have it deleted. Also went on rants about drugs/sexuality/shitting in boxes because fuck society etc
It was awful, a lot more awful than usual.

>>378726891
MNK GCD decrease is only 15% and increases damage by 30% according to the newer build.

i get the damage in the videos probly isnt final but i'm hoping we are strong enough to 2/3 man some HW stuff by the time we get maxed. i just wanna collect birds with my bros

So gear up rdm more like blm or smn?

>>378726891
There's no way they'll take a second vacation to ignore the game and make 0 meaningful balance changes for a year like they did with HW, r-right?

>>378726694
I wonder if it's another gift from Kojicuck to us

>>378726795
I had no clue /xivg/ was this bad

>>378726795
What was their discord about anyways? Some super secret erp discord they didnt want others knowing about?

>>378726975
? both use the same gear

though if you mena materia and stuff idk

>>378726795
>fem au ra
>tranny
>cutter
not surprised tbqh

>>378726795
>dat bed

just adds more to how disturbing this all is

>>378727000
I don't think so. The dev team got a vacation after Heavensward because they were basically half-dead by finishing it. But for Stormblood SE increased the team's size so presumably they can handle the workload better.

>SAM can heal self for 500 potency every 15 seconds
>other melee need to cross-class Second Wind to do the same, and is on 120 sec CD, including Monk

What the fuck?

>>378726943
It's still just a fucking garbage buff. Monk is a class about getting faster and flowing through your shit quickly, and the only 'new' thing they give it slows it down.

Also alongside their potency nerfs and losing Blood for Blood, they gain this bad feeling buff and the ability to use Forbidden Chakra about once every 40 seconds. A skill that nobody really liked that much to begin with.

It's not a nerf, but it's certainly nothing cool like Dragoon is getting.

>>378727048
I mean gear it more with spell speed like blm or crit/det like smn.

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>>378726795
>that disgusting bed
This is your average female au ra

>>378727101
They removed second wind

>>378727041
its a public discord to anyone who wants to join
its pretty bad because discord drama etc etc grown men acting like teenage girls but this person in particular got banned because they were insane

>>378727101
I thought the Self-heal was tied to a different cooldown where you had to pick between that and a counter attack.

>>378726092
Isn't it literally just defense vs offense? When is defense wanted? Or was this another tooltip shit mistranslation?

>>378727000
whm needs a rework like 2.1 warrior for it's 4.0 skills, so i don't expect anything before 4.1

>>378727116
Disembowl nerfed IIRC.

>>378727000

I kind of feel bad for the drone workers on this project. Management is probably working them hard day and night for the past few months to get SB out the door, and they won't get to rest until many months after launch when things stabilize and 4.1 is out. As a player I was frustrated with HW's update schedule post-launch but as a fellow drone, I sympathised greatly. They probably won't take a celebratory vacation this time. Only the senior devs and top-level staff will- the low-level workers will still be breaking their backs.

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>>378724905
>discussing video games has no place on /v/

They will probably nerf WHM aoe damage in 4.1

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>>378727130
It went to cross role didn't it?

>>378727142
Wait, so you can only pick one of each from the same row?

>>378727079
I'd sure hope so.
3.0 lasted too god damn long and 3.1 was an awful patch and took such a long time to come out. It's like being pissed on after a drought.

>>378726070
you mean every 30 seconds?

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>>378727172
I hope they will.
Not that it would matter since only 1% of whm dps.

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How do you feel about the new maps?

>>378723939
>People believe that SMN is dead
Nice meme

>>378726942

Are other mmo generals vile too? Just strikes me how much /v/ jokingly depreciates itself as being degenerate but there's something genuinely fucked about that thread

>>378727241

pretty good, shows us all the missing content

i hope all the cities are unified now

>>378727237
This needs another panel adding

>Half your support abilities stripped out and made into role abilities, you get nothing in return

>>378726297
are you kidding? whm got a 20% chance for the least used spells to proc a stack of something that can add up to a slight cool down reduction on their emergency button spells

SCH btfo!!

>>378727237
WHM has hard life

>>378727154
I mean at this point, it's more about feeling.
Dragoon got stuff that looks cool and makes their class play better.

Monk got something that distinctly feels worse, and removed the actual bit of raid utility we had in exchange for 5% damage group buff they can have up 1/6 of the time.

Maybe they'll change some numbers before release, but Monk has even less of a functional change between HW and SB as it did from ARR to HW, and Riddle of Fire seems like something that will distinctly make the class feel worse.

>>378724359
Main: PLD
Dps: MNK
I'm the schrodinger's cat of cucksheds.

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>>378727241
1.0 maps still looked cuter

>>378727241
Makes me wish they were non-instanced.

cant wait to play MNK and prove /v/ wrong again.

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I really want to like RDM but their mana problems have me worried.
Also their AoE looks like ass.

Look fun though

>>378727262
All generals are vile, yes.

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>>378723751

>tfw you wish you could get into an MMO (FFXIV) but the WoW formula has fucking ruined you so you only really wanna play WoW but WoW has been fucking ruined by Activision so you just wanna trucking end it all cause your favorite genre is dying.

>>378727241

Much better than the current ones, but it's depressing to see so much empty space that we'll never get to explore.

>>378727241
So-so.
The individual maps look kind of boring, but at least they're easier to read.
I like that they show the zones connected like that though.

>>378727326
Hey buddy I think you have the wrong thread.

>>378727350
Their AOE skills may have lower base potency but they don't have damage reduction for multiple targets so it kind of balances out.

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>>378727237
Might aswell add that AST gets Earthly Star which is Assize but 900 potency heal on a 60s cooldown

>>378727403
Fuck you

>>378727350
They expect you to switch into the unenhanced melee combo to sustain MP. It shouldn't be too much of a problem but we wouldn't know until we experience it ourselves.

>>378727154
DRG pot's were buffed nicely, BoTD is now a 30sec CD, heavy thrust is a 30 sec duration and elusive jump is 60 sec CD now too. DRG's still looking good, disembowel did get nerfed to 5% and doom spike is now 130tp 130 pot but combo's into a new skill that is 120 tp and 170 pot

>>378727241
When I played ARR on PS3 before HW, I was super confused by the map, I didn't understand how to do my hunting log since I couldn't find the goddamn sheep (You had to walk around to open up your map instead of having it full immediately like now).

Overall it's an extremely good change for the new players.

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>>378727443

>>378727228
Aetherflow used once every 60 seconds
Need two dreadwrym trances to get bahamut. To use bahamut you have to wait 2 minutes. Only time it's less is for the opener where you have one stack preloaded before pull. Yes you have to wait the full time frame now as you can not use another aetherflow before you spent atunement stacks now

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>>378727403
Ye, meant to start a new thread, I was in the wrong tab. Not a shill, just playing a lot of MMOs ATM.

>>378727443
No fuck you shitposter

>>378727331
>all that obvious copy paste
Nah

>>378727241
>You can access the goblet from Uldah
What the fuck, really?

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>>378727384
DESU can anyone help me fix this problem. I have all the free time in the world at this point in life and i really need an mmo..... ive tried them all but nothing can fix me just wishing WoW was worth playing.

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Healers still won't dps

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tfw PLD turn into magical girls for 12 seconds.
Feels good man

>>378727419
It's a cool spell but are we going to make believe most healers are going to be able to plan 10-20 seconds in advance? It's probably just going to be the occasional pretty big aoe heal.

I wanted Black Mage to get a new Ancient Magic that would be a big ass bomb like that it's not fair

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>>378727479
oh ok disregard I suck cocks. I was just going off the tooltip I saw earlier

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>is AoE weaponskill

NO
Fuck you YOSHIDAAA

>>378727575
There are no words for how much I hate them

>>378725234
/vg/ is a containment for mental illnesses, not actual video game discussion.

If you have such a boner for that hopeless shithole then go there yourself, or better yet just kill yourself out of 4chan if you're too autistic to ignore 1 thread among a litany of other terrible threads.

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>>378727575
yoshi sure knows his playerbase

>>378727510
The point was that it looks more ornate

>>378727595
I feel exactly the same way YoshiPlz

>>378727581
You just place it near the boss, simple

Even if you detonate the lesser version before 10s it's still stronger than Assize

>>378727575
What is more important, lillies or dps? The real question, who cares? WHMs aren't getting a spot in raids anymore.

>>378727384
>>378727538
>Does't want to play WoW but wants to play WoW
FFXIV is pretty similar to WoW, though.

>>378727538
Just play 14 lmao. Go Ninja, it's fun.

>>378727419
Why do people ignore that Assize CD got reduced to 60 sec?

>>378727580
So ur true cuck self finaly gets over.

>>378727665
The bigger problem is that even if you don't DPS you won't get lillies very often because White Mage keeps HP bars up so easily, especially if you're not dpsing.

>>378727595
Why not?
Also DRG's single-target damage got buffed significantly you know.

>>378727575
You dont need dpsing if you are not raiding,

>>378727727
>made skill with cool animation
>gave it to niche aoe combo you rarely get to use
That's why.

Replace Full thrust with it and I am golden.

>>378727237
>holy damage falloff
>60 kit adds a slightly higher potency lustrate on a 60 second cooldown, sch 60 kit adds a free instant cast higher potency medica
>70 abilities are RNG chance to get an RNG chance of reducing cooldowns on spells you rarely even use
>plus this:
>>378727298

>>378727665
the lillies aren't that important because they'll just reduce the cooldown on skills like tetragrammaton and benediction, which is dumb because you aren't going to be blowing them the second they come off cooldown.

>>378727695
because Earthly Star is still 3 times stronger heals. Even detonated early it's 675 potency.

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>>378727786
SCH's don't want to dps either

>>378727695

Because WHM still can't compete with SCH's crit buff, shields, and pet utility or AST's everything.

Only thing WHM has over them is HEALZ and burst damage, but there's no encounter in XIV (so far) that requires the sheer amount of healing a WHM can do and their burst damage makes them OOM in a hurry, almost as fast as casting 3 Raises in a row.

>>378727827
Do these people actually pay attention to the CNJ questline.

>SAM sen is basically just a counter and each of them don't matter

What's the point?

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>Elusive Jump CD down to 60 sec
>tfw can get extra dps in now that I can jump away 3 times as often

>>378727695
ast has same cd of 60s and it heals more than twice as much as the "pure healer"

100 more damage potency and the 10% mana gain don't justify such a low heal potency on assize

>>378727827
We just go 2 ast. We dont need this worthless healbitches.

>>378727727
didn't disembowel get dropped to 5% tho?
like i haven't messed with numbers but it sounds like it's a wash

>>378725876
Thanks senpai. My nip is decent enough, and probably dn't even need it just wanna see the pots really.

>>378727827
What kind of retarded thinking is this? Do you see Tanks only taking aggro the whole time cause it's their role?

Since pvp got reworked now and gives you a set of abilities and you can enter at 30 and no more stats does this mean that all the pvps aren't sync anymore?

>>378727868
Not just the cnj questline even the novice hall tells healers to dps

>>378727695
because it's still a shitty mashup of worse versions of SCH's aetherflow abilities and letting us cast it once for every 3 SCH gets is still insulting?

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so... what are the chances that they might actually change poor WHM before SB? Does the JP community even think it's bad?

>>378727868
No. If they do they blatantly misinterpret it or presume the game is wrong, along with how ARR was in regards to raids. Remember how people thought parry was good?

>>378727913
yes
if you've played nin for any amount of time you'll know that actually having eye put up by a tank is a coinflip

>>378727575
The average whm is nothing more than an eos that overheal, I always considered whm the ultimate shitter job.

>>378727956
>Worse
Well it's a nuke aoe with 300 potency damage and heal and also give 10% mp back every 60sec

Aetherflow is a whole other mechanic on its own tho, but it sucks that they nerfed the MP regen to 10%, still better than gutting it completely like I feared they would do.

>>378727803
I was thinking lilies would be more about Assize, since everything scales on Mind now Assize is basically just free 300 potency explosion and mp restore and free heal.

If they could actually get confession/lily through a non-retarded source WHM would be DPS monsters - though that still wouldn't really compare to Balance or Chain Strategem.

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