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What went wrong bros
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Post your Lalas
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>>378672124

We lost this man.
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>>378672124
Yoshi HATES speedrunning
WHM was just purposely made garbage.
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>>378672447
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>>378672124
>no monk
you had one job SE shill, ONE FUCKING JOB
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>>378672489
good
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Please tell me, what happened to the fairy of the SCH?
MTQvideo don't say anything about it.
BUT THEY FUCKING KILLED BANE THE FUCKING CUNTS
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>>378672584
fairy pretty much stayed the same.
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I have a question regarding FFXIV lore: Is it true potatoes were/are just created as a result of some bullshit side experiment? I remember there was an item you can get while fishing and it says that there appears to be a lalafel arm sticking out of it.

Also do potatoes even have breasts or genitals? I feel like when they are "born" they just decide which gender they want to be to fit in.
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Give it to me straight guys, how fucked is MCH? I saw the changes, they don't look too great.
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>>378672584
They nerfed Embrace potency by 50
Other than that everything's the same
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>>378672584
It's exactly the same, except it gets a tether to continuously heal the target while unable to do anything else and depleting the job gauge resource.
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>tfw you are a noob and unsure if RDM will be in the meta
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Apparently EVERYONE is a hardcore raider that wants world first Omega clear since general consesus is that WHM and SMN are now somehow garbage in a tier we know nothing about
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who the fuck cares, all you do in this shit game is run the same dungeon 300 times
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>>378672489
Tanaka could never get shit done on time though.
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>>378672516
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>>378672724

it will be the meta in 24 man raids
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>>378672124

Why is SMN there if they got demi-bahamut

>>378672149

DRG pretty much got the MNK treatment from 50-60 or rather 50-70 now I should say. The base rotation did not change and the only thing you got was flashier effects on your red geirskogul and off-gcd. Very underwhelming.
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I'm glad people finally realized that sam is just as braindead as other melee jobs.
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>>378672742
People have been playing this game enough to be able to make informed predictions.
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>>378672724
>Not sure if RDM will be meta
>Want to level it first
>Should probably level current main first just in case
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>>378672660
breasts yes but they're almost nonexistent
genitals maybe, some of the lalas at costa del sol make it seem likely
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>>378672724
>tfw you are EU on NA and RDM will be unplayable because you'll have to wait for Dualcast
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Is WAR ok?
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>>378672742
When AST has +15% base healing on everything, on top of even more powerful cards and aoe, there is absolutely no reason, under any circumstance, to use WHM.
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>>378672835
Why do they get a super cheap rez?
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>>378672662
What don't you like about them? The only downside I saw was wild fire being only 5 seconds but if the potency of heat boosted shots is high I don't see a huge drop in total DPS despite that.
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>implying 8 monks won't be meta by spamming one ilm punch for permanent stunlocked boss
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>during testing a party with 4 samurai did more raidwide damage than the current "dream comp"

nice bias
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>WAR literally stayed the same and got some major improvement on top of it and literally 0 nerf
>"W-WAR IS NOT META ANYMORE!"
>"I-IT'S DRK+PLD TIME!"
>"WAR IS SHIT NOW!"
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>>378672662
Gotta wait and see how it pans out. Out of all changes, MCHs, I feel is the most unclear.
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>>378672447
Kill yourself retard
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>>378672994
that's a normal cost res
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>>378672540

The feedback of MNK is overblown, the new abilities/traits fix many of their problems.

Passive generation of chakra fixes TP issues and a raid CD gives them some utility, they are also the only class with mantra now.

Riddle of earth gives you less chances to lose GL3 making them more friendly with downtime.

Riddle of fire is sort of eh, but isn't a gamebreaker. Potentially increases the value of SS by quite a bit in addition to passive chakras.

My only disappointment is no free way to cast tornado kick, but the CD was also lowered to 10s for some reason and I don't know why they would do that unless there is some change we are missing.
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>RDM's Vercure heals 6-7k HP out of it's 25k HP at i290
>Vercure and Verraise can be insta casted with Chainspell
Welp, RDM seems like a comfy job.
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>>378673000
I hope One Ilm Punch will be available in PvP
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>>378672995
It was mostly the blowing up your turret for 30 seconds thing. I'm mostly reserving judgement until SB actually hits and I play around with them a bit
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>>378673016
Nah the meta is back to WAR + PLD. DRK has moved into its postion in the cuckshed.
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>>378672852
>Why is SMN there if they got demi-bahamut
Demi-Bahamut wouldn't compensate to any of the nerfs it got in both AoE and single-target when you can only summon him every 15 seconds and he throws like 2 Akh Morns and 5 Shockwaves.
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>>378672660
They must have genitals and breasts to reproduce and feed young I'd imagine.
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>>378672662
Not really, hypercharge got nerfed but now it's 'merely' just as good as other job's raid dps cooldowns instead of being twice as good. Bard got hit much harder in the raid dps contribution department.

The biggest nerf is losing lead shot as spammable 490 potency dot was amazing for multidot situations. We have no chance in hell of matching a bard in that situation now that their spammable dots are 670+570 potency.
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>Tekken7 after tomorrow
>E3 in 2 weeks
>SB in 2 weeks

Life is so good right now
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>>378673074
You consider being a DPS that's stuck with trying to help out the Healer's job comfy?
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>>378673002
Every dps class besides SAM goes in the shed
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>>378672995
It's 10s now, but that's somewhat reasonable as they removed cast times and MCH seems to have more burst.
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>>378673016
>>378673132


Can you feel that? The cuckshed is calling you. I know you're probably afraid, but all of us jobs go through this eventually. Now it's your turn.
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>>378672660
Forums but unlike most mmos, they actually can matter.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/62122-Lore-of-Lalafell
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>>378673131
Not sure how I feel about that either but maybe it'll be neat. Since bishop turret got a nerf maybe blowing it up after a certain point will be more efficient for pulls
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>>378673139
>Bard got hit much harder in the raid dps contribution department.

>lose 15% magic vuln up
>get 15% direct hit bonus + 100% uptime 2% crit bonus
Doesn't seem that big a deal considering magic users are going the way of the dumpster.
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>>378673165
Aye, it seems really handy for shitty DF parties and progression runs.
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>>378673165
>Cleric Stance removed
>RDM and PLD can reliably heal from the DPS/Tank positions

NO FUCKING EXCUSES ANYMORE YOU NETFLIX HEALSLUTS DO FUCKING DPS
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>>378673136
>>378673230
They don't reproduce by standard means though, that's what I am trying to figure out. There is an item you get while fishing and it's like a pile of goop or something that I can't remember, and in the description it says there appears to be a Lalafell arm sticking out of it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>378673414
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>>378673060
>Passive generation of chakra fixes TP issues
So was I playing wrong or is it abnormal to just never have an issue with TP? If it's just me and a healer friend doing content, then at worst I run low but never completely out.

What issues were people having? Poor management?
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>>378673185
new meta:
>WAR
>AST
>RDM
>SAM
>SAM
>SAM
>SAM
>SAM
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>>378673074
what about smn's physick?
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>people will be circlejerking their theoretical "metas" nonstop before the game is even out
>meta won't even matter when 95% of players are dogshit at dps anyway
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Woah....
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>>378673505
YES, so what does this say exactly? That they are spawned by these fucking compounds?
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>>378673414
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Aetherochemical_Compound_123

http://ff14angler.com/fish/485
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>>378673309
I dunno, I can't really see the point of it with blowing up the rook turret. I also wasn't too excited with the reduction of how many bullets we get either.
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>>378673316
really going to hinge on how strong direct hit is.
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>>378672124
Paladin looks like it has some neat moves at least
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>>378673563
No, that the compounds share very similar physical qualities to lalafells. Meaning they could have a common ancestor.
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>>378673563
they reproduce naturally now but were originally created by runoff from allagan genetic experiments
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Au Ra are CUTE!
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>>378672516
I want to fuck Lala.
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>>378673526
It doesn't make their raise instant cast.
And it's shit anyway.
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What did they do to summoner? I really like the job but i leveled dragoon instead. Also did DRG get nerfed/buffed?
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>>378672124
>WHM
>Stoneskin I & II removed
>Most WHM-specific skills moved to Cross Role Actions
>Only new abilites are gated behind low-chance RNG (20% chance wtf?)
>Meanwhile AST gets unnecessary buffs out the ass

Fuck this game, Yoshi's lost his mind.
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>>378673563
I think this is just one of those weird Eorzean things of being a byproduct of magic/scientific mishaps.

It's like how C@s aren't related to actual house cats. I forget exactly where it's stated though.
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>WHM Cure potency got buffed from 400 to 450
>AST's Sect buff is 15% to potency on both Diurnal an Nocturnal so it's still higher than WHM's "buff" (460)
KEK
MY
SHIT
UP
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>>378673670
>>378673680
Ah okay, thank you.
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>>378673737
i think he's asking how much it heals for.
rdm's heal heals for 6k, so would smn's as well?
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I can't watch the videos right now, can someone explain to me how RDM's playstyle is going to work? I heard someone say it juggles between caster DPS and melee DPS.
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>>378673727
Are those Au Ra lolis?
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>>378672994
It's not cheap
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>>378673074
WHM RDM is the new healer meta.
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>MFW I enjoy healing only as a WHM and cant wait to continue to get in every single dungeon run because of top heals and couldnt give a rats ass about DPSing during runs
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>>378672961
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>>378673819
RDM might have higher MND or a higher potency on its cure
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>>378673727
I want that aura loli to hop onto my dick t b h
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God dammit SE. All I ever wanted was to be extremely racist towards PLDs. Now that they're going to be good I'm actually starting to look at them like a peer and it disgusts me that I have nothing to hate with my new bro.

Are WHMs worth it I've only kind of hated them since AST got buffs. But now it's looking like they're going to be a bigger meme than PLDs ever were. Like what are the proper steps to hating a healer full time?
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>>378673792
>ASTs getting WHM's Divine Seal on top of that
I honestly have no idea how anyone at SE thought this was okay.

No, I main AST.
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>>378673859
>cast quick spell -> cast long spell
>do this back and forth between black magic & white magic
>when mana is high enough, go into melee and do a 1-2-3 combo and finish with either flare or holy
>repeat
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>>378673778
I was actually going to try for mentor status and started CNJ. Looks like I'm going full Yugioh now.
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>>378673931
>your
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>no more contagion, replaced with a single target debuff
>spur gone, maim and mend now applies to pets
Will this make ifrit more desirable for aoe and garuda for single target?
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>>378673508

Not so much management, just many fights would starve a MNK of TP if they could stick to a boss long enough (A9S) and there wasn't much you could do about it. Especially if any aoe was involved. With all melee getting goad now and purification being free to cast with chakras, in addition to the removal of ToD and fracture you'll be spending a lot less TP overall.

Honestly I'd like to try a skillspeed build on MNK in SB to get back to that level of TP usage, except with much less worry of running out of TP.

Internal release and SCH buffs are a lot of free crit, and bootshine always crits too. More SS to offset the downside of riddle of fire and getting more gcds out in general might be more valuable than just stacking crit itself. Of course if that isn't the case and crit is still #1, we might be replacing det with SS as our go-to secondary stat.
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>>378673780
>>378673792
WHM is pure bred healer guys you dont understand that is the fantasy we are trying to reinforce. whm is a straight up pure healer.
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>>378674008
I actually did fix it (I made the pic when drunk and tired almost a year ago), but I also forgot where I saved it and that was 2 HDD's ago and just never cared to fix it (or find where it is in my many backup folders) since almost no one can spot the mistake
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>>378672124
wait what happened to smn?
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>>378672994
It's REALLY REALLY expensive when you consider that RDM has no self mana regen outside of the class ability Lucid Dreaming
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>>378673859
They have two types of mana: black and white. They build these mana using spells then spend them on melee attacks then use a big spell after their melee combo. When they cast a spell with a cast time it they get to cast their next spell instantly. Depending on the big spell they use after the combo they'll end up with more black or white magic and they need to alter the spells they use based on that
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PLDbros report in we're not actually shit anymore
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>>378673960
They already do. It's called Synastry.
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>>378674060
Why's it matter? Bahamut is up for 20s with a 30s recast.
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So from what it's looking like, they're taking off effects of abilities and such to try and promote synergy between the Jobs?
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>>378672724
Entirely depends on what point they get mana starved.
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>>378674197
Synastry got its healing buff removed because Divine Seal is now a role action.
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Who's fucking ready for DF RDM hard-casting 5 second long spells
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>>378674197
Nope. Synastry lost the healing potency buff, which means you can now use Synastry and the healing potency buff (the new Divine Seal) individually, or combine them.
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>That overall MNK potency nerf
>Raid damage buff is only 5%
>Forbidden chakra go from 320 to 250
B-but why?
It was supposed to be the MNK expansion, not the MNK slaughter?!
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So I'm playing through the MSQ for the first time, and I know there some weird side story going on with this Edda character and PotD. Does her story happen automatically with the MSQ, or does she have her own quest line I have to initiate?
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>>378674181
>PLDbros report in we're not actually shit anymore

They made fun of me for my PLD relics

Who's laughing now
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>>378674246
They also add bunch of generic 5% atk buff to many jobs.
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>>378673859
>build black AND white mana through Volt -> Veraero/Verthunder for white and black respectively
>Veraero and Verthunder have a chance to proc Verstone and Verfire, again for white and black mana
>at certain points of accumulated black & white mana, your melee skills turn into buffed up version that cost both manas
>jump into melee and unload your manas, with the ultimate purpose of using the beefed version of Redoublement so you can unload your big dick spells Verholy or Verflare
>rinse and repeat
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>will be running the same two dungeons for 3+ months after SB drops
>but I'm worried about my dumb job more

Nice.
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>>378674364
too bad you're still autistic for playing a post-WoW MMORPG lmao
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>>378674364
You wasted time on a relic, you deserve to be made fun of.
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>>378674327
>RDM roleplaying as a BLM or a WHM
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>>378672124
>tfw sch main
>tfw whm ast is now meta
>tfw whm mains are massive babies and just whining because muh lilies
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>>378674364
I am cause relic weapons are always shit and not worth the grind for the very small benefit
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>>378674327
I am sure as fuck ready for "pure melee" rdm
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Looks like AST is king of dungeon speedruns now?
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>>378673563
>>378673505
Be aware that it might just be Koji being Koji and putting retarded descriptions on things that aren't present in the other languages.
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>>378674358
Have no fear brother! YoshiP will buff the numbers before release!
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>>378674120
>pure healer
>worse pure healing than the other classes
>no utility because pure healer
>classes with better pure healing have utility because they aren't pure healers

i dont even care anymore, i leveled sch halfway through HW
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>>378674358

Forbidden had to get a potency nerf for how often it will be cast compared to now.

Raid damage buff is 5%, but that's 5% damage for everyone and not just one type of damage. A portion of that CD's damage is also funneled into the MNK through chakra, so it's more of a DPS increase than you think.

Overall potency nerfs are are a bit sad, but I'm chalking it up to just general balance changes.
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>>378673963
>>378674146
Thanks guys.
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>>378673942
>Getting your dick sliced apart by fucking an au'ra before their vagina teeth retract with sexual maturity.
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>>378673742
dots have a super long duration and you get a free tri disaster every single dreadwyrm trance. The baha egi you get after two dreadwyrm trances, it gets it's own ahk morn enkindle that you are using 1-2 times per summon. No more contagion, and your pet auto resummons after baha goes away.

So essentially it's just going to be a lot of spamming ruin.
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Is WAR or DRK looking like the better offtank now?
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>>378672124
is it a good ideia do level up a ninja?
they seem fun
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>all these faggots switching to bard

FAGGOTS GET AWAY FROM MY JOB
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>>378674507
>whm ast is now meta
>whm

Lolwut. WHM got fucking gutted. Meta is going to be AST/SCH because the former is broken as hell now and the latter has a 20% crit chance buff on the party.
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>>378674678
DRK will be if they do more DPS. Nin's slashing will always be up no matter what.
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>>378674736
>bard
>when sam exists
LOL
good one
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>>378673563

It seemed like the body horror that was a feature of Azys Lla to me. The idea that the Allagans were willing to turn sentient people into atherochemical compounds - think soylent green or the mass effect 2 goopifying people. It's also possible Lalafells were a test tube race and this was some early experiment of them.
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>>378674709
whm ast is meta nothing is poor for whm theyre better off than sch
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>>378674785
Tooltip says it's PvP only but on the Live Letter demo I could've sworn it actually applied to a regular enemy.
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>>378674736
Don't worry I'll be sticking with the superior ranged class.
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>>378674678
WAR, much better tank skillset and it still looks like it'll do a lot more damage than DRK.
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>>378672724
why would you care about the meta if you're not a static raider

this is a question for myself as well
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>>378674736
I haven't seen a single post today where someone has said they're switching to bard
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>>378674794
>implying BRD won't be useful for that 100% upkeep 2% crit buff and 15% direct hit buff
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>talk about what is and isn't meta
>when most of you fuckers don't even raid
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>>378674520
Glamour is the benefit, but PLD have better-looking weapons that requires far less grinding, like Tryfing Sword of the Round.
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>>378674736

If they couldn't handle minuet, they'll probably be shit at nu-BRD too.
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>No lilies for casting Stone fucking 4

What were they thinking?
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>>378674748
whm does more dps than sch
ast shield is always better than a crit adlo
aspected helios is even better than succor
all sch has is deploy and libra but with pld looking good you wont need deploy if you have veil
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>>378672447
Do you think the dumbing down of some jobs was worth it for the casuals? Will you miss 3.0 play styles?
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>>378674372
I saw, I'm expecting quite a bit of outcry when the expansion drops
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>>378674876
>Tooltip says it's PvP only
NIN slashing debuff?
No it doesn't.
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>>378672660
>I feel like when they are "born" they just decide which gender they want to be to fit in.
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>>378674950
>still samefagging his butthurt
Here's a (you) so you don't kill yourself buddy.
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>>378674982
20% crit buff is better than what whm brings so yeah
whm is cucked hard
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Any of you niggers have an encyclopedia? I got mine in the mail finally, shits very pretty and informative. A lot of detail.
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>>378674882

How do you think the MCH changes will make the class? I was thinking of leveling one, but never touched it before. People have been saying its kinda boring.
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>>378674982
i think you're forgetting the most important thing
auto-healing fairy
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>https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130109-Yoshida-on-Stormblood-Jobs-Roles-and-PvP-Famitsu-Interview-Translaton
Jap Yoshi interview.
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>3 different ninki abilities all on different timers
>none of them line up with trick attack except frog i guess
fucking christ
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>>378675209
And a smart heal
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This madman saved Final Fantasy (XIV) again!

Apologize and pre-order!
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>>378675146
>>378675209
fairy healing was nerfed ast and whm have dps abilities that heal since mind scaling damage now
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>>378672124
Stop doing big pulls

>>378672682
maim and mend buffs your pet so it is the same
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>>378675206
It's up in the air right now with all the changes and new abilities they get. I have fun with it myself, but some people are probably turned off by the 50% proc rate on it's normal combos
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>>378675309
>fairy healing was nerfed
Where? If anything it got buffed since Maim & Mend affects pets now.
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>>378674372

That's what happens when people cry about small differences in classes that amount to only 5-10% dps variance and even then only at the highest level of play does it truly matter and even then only speedruns. World prog has made it through with MNK/PLD/WHM before, it's more about the time you put in more than anything.

Please look forward to 5.0, where classes are collapsed again because yoshi thinks that the reason there's such a massive dps difference is because the 3.0 classes are too hard, rather than its just the community is too shit.
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>Monk GCD potencies reduced by 10 across the board

??? Monks?
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>>378675281
Yoshida was laughing his ass off behind everyone's back during the live letter in Germany.

Cucked half the playerbase for superior nippon steel
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>>378674982
>whm does more dps than sch
yes but 20% full party crit boost is worth way more than the slight individual dps advantage whm has.

plus everything else in sch's kit being twice as useful as the closest whm equivalent
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>>378675406

Balancing changes.
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>>378675372
it already effects pets mtq was wrong and its 250 potency now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7R7QM5X18
flat out nerfed
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can someone explain to me why everyones saying SMN is dead while sure, they lost bio and contagion but also got a fuckton of damage with bahamut, upgraded bio+miasma and party utility?
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>>378675406
Sorry, the SAM potencies had to come from somewhere.
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>want to play to try it out for new xpac
>Can't mix and match codes from stores or steam or whatever the fuck so I have to pay more or make a new account
>Latest xpac includes previous xpac but not until latest one is released so you can't catch up and be ready for launch UNLESS you pay an extra $20 to unlock it now which is fucking stupid
>Making an account simply will not work unless I use Microsoft edge??????????????
>Game is like playing WoW on 0.5 speed when I finally make my trial after hours of trouble and stupid shit
>Can't just fucking play the game forces me into some gay ass waiting tutorial for retards who can't kill boars or something for literally an hour
>Queue up for a dungeon which is NOT OPTIONAL to progress main story
>2 HOUR QUEUE !!!!!
>log off before getting it done and give up


This game is just impossible

There's so much fucking shit it's SO anti consumer like holy fuck they really must be retarded as fuck to make it like this

I can't imagine what the fuck they are thinking

Absolute retards
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So Im guessing that the primary NIN starter is Huton, followed by Hide, follwed by whatever Ninjutsu suits the situation, now that Hide auto refresh the Ninjutsu cd?
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>>378675514
is ast shields are better than sch all sch brings is a crit buff
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>>378675529
>it already effects pets
oh?
Tell me more.
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>>378675213
>All tank jobs can be used as main or off-tank
>DRCucks
THE
CITY
OF
ISHGARD
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>>378675406
Sorry, they all killed themselves because none of them wanted to go back to the cuckshed after tasting that short moment of superiority.
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Yoshi P needs to die to someone competent can take over the reigns.
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>>378675529
>it already effects pets
It doesn't.
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>>378675541
BLM shits on them damage-wise, and SMN lost a lot of their AoE potential, which again only benefits BLM.
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>>378675406
SAM has essentially become MNK done right.
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>>378675548
Oh yeah also I can't join my friends server unless I pay to transfer but they even cancelled transfers too
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????


The servers are just locked off to new characters/////?????????
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>>378675356
>turned off by the 50% proc rate on it's normal combos
Pretty much, I tried MCH around release with some thoughts of their being an 'Ammo system'. Between the reality and the proc 'combo', I didn't really enjoy it.

Do we know anything about how it's changing? I don't suppose the proc stuff is going away? All I've seen so far is what looks like less slots for ammo and some kind of heat system.
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>>378675206
I enjoy how MCH plays right now but that heat gauge has got me rock fucking hard, I love the idea of heating and cooling my gun's barrels to optimize damage. Wild fire has a shorter duration now but our burst DPS looks like its going to be a lot higher and lining up all your cool downs will be easier.
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>>378675629
>>378675732
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>>378675616
you still can't use hide in battle
it's just to avoid waiting for 20 secs for mudras to come back on at the start of a pull, which is a good enough quality of life change
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5aSq3obCQI

This looks fucking awful when it's not flying/swimming.
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>>378675627
crit is literally the most important stat in the game for every class

shield potency doesnt fucking matter, just like whms higher healing potency didn't matter compared to ast bringing balance in 3.X
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>>378675671
You say that as if YoshiP does anything more than direct the flow of development and not actual decision making with regards to balance.
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>>378675805
Proc stuff is staying but reload is reduced to a 30 second cool down instead of a 60 to make up for having 2 less bullets. The heat gauge will increase your damage substantially if kept above 50 but will reduce damage and lock you out of using it for some time if you go over 100
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>>378675902
U L T R O S
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>Yoshi justifying SAM big dick dps because the job is deep and requieres train and thought to perform at 100%

it's not going to be nerfed, period
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>>378675985
>direct the flow of development
He's not doing a very good job.
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>>378676060
prease rook forwart to eet!
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This shit makes me wish I had two accounts and could wintrade with myself.
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>>378675956
remember how stats were changed going into 3.0 thats gonna happen again
and shield potency matters alot when all damage in the game is in big bursts and virus/disable were removed
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>>378675902
>novice network chat
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>>378676060
>because the job is deep
no you wowrefugee, its because ff samurai has always been about big numbers
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>>378676178
What server you on senpai? I'm willing to afk and let you get your wins if you're on Ultros.
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>>378675772
Fuck off and join a server that isn't FFXIV's version of Moon Guard or Tich.
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>>378675213
>Because of that, I was consciously looking for other elements that were simplified. However, when looking at the new samurai job, I got the impression that there are a lot of things that you need to manage to play it to its fullest - is that the intent?

>Yoshida: Yeah. It's meant to be an extremely strong job. I mentioned it on the producer letter live, it's a difficult job, but it has great potential.
>it's a difficult job
If you want my sides, they'll be in orbit
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>>378676060
>locked rotation due to sen
>kenki usage amounts to 'use these for single target' and 'use these for aoe'

Fucking yoshi.
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>>378674991
I don't know, we'll have to wait and see. I play as a black mage, but I don't think the new rotation will be as simple as 2.0.
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>>378676060

Their perception of difficulty is always skewed. MNK was considered the hardest role for pretty much all of 2.0. Meanwhile DRG could not continue their combo if they didn't hit HT or Impulse drive from the right angle, try dealing with that garbage when you're doing t9 drop-down or any thing that involves you tanking anything.
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>>378676060
>Yoshi the SAM is doing twice everyone else's damage, we may need to look into this
>ITTU NO BARINGU UTIRITY, IT BARANCED
>GRORIOUS FORDED NIPPON STEER STRONGER THAN RANCERU
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>>378676248
I'm literally talking about what Yoshida specifically said in the interview you retard
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>>378675805
I don't blame you. A lot of people were expecting to be playing with ammo a lot more, but instead what you get is a job that can have a bitch of a time getting it's normal combo out thanks to being at the mercy of RNG.
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>>378676396
>monk does highest personal dps
>no one takes it to raids because it doesn't offer utility

>people getting uppity because sam seems like its going to have big dick dps but no utility outside of a slash that nin/war are going to provide anyway
am i living in some alternate universe?
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>>378676248
And FF Summoners have always been about actual summoning and look where we are.
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paladin DPS viability when?

tired of people cornholing my favorite class into tanking or healing.
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Before I forget, I wanted to inform you that these will be your maids tonight.

Say something nice to them, /v/.

No lewd remarks, please. Mind your manners :^)
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>>378675051
Learn2Read.
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>AST overall fucking buff
>15% healing potency on Diurnal and Nocturnal making them stronger than WHM in regen power now
>Aspected benefit shield going from 170% to 300 fucking% (ADLO CRIT ON DEMAND LOL)
>They basically get an assize on their own

>Only nerf is that they deal less single target damage than SCH
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>>378675902
I think you anal ravaged them so hard they quit the thread lmao
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>>378676426
>tfw getting 6+ shots in a row with no procs
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>>378672852
Didn't they get 5 hit combos or something? That's pretty cool.
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>>378676268
I'm on Odin so that's a no-go.
This was probably a lot easier before make it rain or cross server LoV because you could just use a bored friend for your wins.
Now I get farmed by people with double my rating.
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>>378676367
>took them until 2.4 to fix that shit
This balancing team is fucking useless.
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>>378676550
Kill yourself
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>>378676550

back to mhigger gulag with them
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>>378676645
Fuck off back to /xivg/
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>>378676510
SAM potencies are so ridiculous that it doesn't matter if it doesn't bring any more utility.
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>Swiftsong renamed to Peloton
Fucking Japs and their obsession with Mongolians.
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>>378676510
The different is that SAM doesn't run out of TP and need to be babied with TP regen and actually does significantly more dps than other melee classes.
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>>378674892
Static raiders don't care.

It's speedrunners/world firsts that will care. Youhave months to figure it out
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>>378676569
yeah it says that but we've seen NIN's applying slashing debuff in the live letter outside of pvp already, most likely just a typo.
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>>378676594
It's fucking irritating, because I know my DPS has dropped thanks to that shit
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>>378676510
With SAM potency, it looks like it's above and beyond the difference between Monk and others. So Monk is going to be a middle ground and middle ground is fucked in XIV
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>>378676550
Fat ugly faces
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>>378676510
it honestly depends on how much more dps than everyone else it does.

If it's doing 30%+ more damage than any other dps, then it's gonna be brought regardless of utility, and utility will effectively mean "How do you help our SAM deal more damage?"
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>>378676703
Don't reply you idiot
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>Worst personal DPS out of all melee jobs
>Riddle of Fire is going to ruin our relaxed braindead rotation
FUCK YOU GOOK-MAN
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>>378676248
>samurai has always been about big numbers
You mean "job with the best single-hand weapons while using Ninja's Dual Wield". Samurai's (and katanas in general) roles and damage potential changes from game to game, and XIV don't even have Samurai's strongest iconic ability.
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This is a cool
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>>378676586
I was reeling about ultros, but he's right.
More importantly, even with a nerf to the fairy, the fairy itself is still more important than the entire whm job. Automatic smart healing will beat whm's shit toolset every single time. sch's aoe got nerfed, but its single target should be relatively fine considering the new broil & crit buff.
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>>378672124
>Even with GL3, a Monk under Riddle of Fire will have a GCD of 2.6s

I don't know why I expected anything nice to happen. I didn't even shitpost about NINs picking chakra. I don't deserve this pain
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>>378676618

>implying NIN would be taken

It's gonna be DRG/SAM. SAM will be applying their slashing anyways to get Setsu.
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>>378673016
>lost path
>not a nerf
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>>378676762
Yeah, hopefully it's not PvP only because it'd make merging the point completely pointless otherwise.
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>>378672540
>Monks troll how great they are going to be and how everyone will be giving them chakra
>turns out it's a shitty 15s buff that is a % to give them chakra and they still don't do much

Karma is amazing.
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>>378673563
Lalas were made in labs like the ixal that's all, lala players get autistic when you tell them their race is a failed allagan experiment though
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>>378676856
4 >>378676510
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>>378676886
>Get more DPS out of it
Not really a nerf really
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Begone, thots.
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Nice
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>>378676886
WAR is still gonna be good, but PLD and DRK are looking strong too, I think the biggest nerf for WAR at least in my opinion is having to spendhalf your beast gauge to swap stances.
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>>378676823

This is one of the abilities I think will see a number change at launch or a patch. We might not even want the full duration of it, perhaps an excuse to dump OGCDs during the effect and reapply demolish before clicking it off.
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>>378676550
Please fuck off to /vg/ you piece of shit
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>>378677021
Huh, neat. It's nice to see how the zones fit together.
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>>378676980
Who are you?
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>>378677021
>Going to Ul'dah again
Pls no
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>>378676980
Is thots a new nigger slang for women
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GOD DAMN HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DO I HAVE TO BEAT THIS LEWENA BITCH BEFORE SHE GIVES ME HER FUCKING CARDS

I SWEAR I DUELED HER FROM DUSK TO DAWN AND BEAT HER AT LEAST TWENTY TIMES AND GOT ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING FOR IT

GIVE ME YOUR GODDAMN CARDS YOU SKANK
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>>378677093
Are numbers still subject to change?.
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>>378677197
numbers are always subject to change
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>>378676980
I'm gonna be sticking with HW DoH gear.
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>>378673942
Jesus there are legit fucking pedo on this website ?
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>>378677021
>>378677138
Looks like FF12 maps
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>>378677093
Only counting normal combos, Riddle of Fire is a DPS loss. It's only with oGCDs that you can get a DPS gain out of it, and I'm pretty sure they don't intend for you to dump all your oGCDs then turn it off, so I suspect it will change.

Considering the potency losses it shouldn't even reduce skill speed at all. If it needs to have a drawback they should have picked something better.
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>>378675548
lmfao, but fuck you
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>>378677197
They're not going to change.
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Do we know what Red Mage's LB3 is?
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>>378674181
Reporting in, being able to mitigate the fuck out of everything has me excited even if it doesnt end up "meta".
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>>378676787
>How do you help our SAM deal more damage?

This is the reason I'm going SAM. Even if I get grouped with mouth breathing retards I will still do big dick dps.
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>>378676910
It's not like they had to put up with 2 years of being in the dumpster before getting a vain hope of something good for about 2 weeks before being slamfucked into a lower, worse dumpster.
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>>378676539
We got another AOE and a single nuke attack
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>>378677197
They won't change till 4.1
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>>378677021
Doesn't really fit on the larger map in the background.
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>>378677346
That's just a vaguely eorzea shaped coffee stain
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>>378673563

It can mean Lalas are an Allagan byproduct. It can mean they made experiences on Lalafells and created that thing. Maybe it was some botched attempt at cloning. Maybe it's not related to Lalafell at all and is some natural organism that could take the shape of any race.

But in fact it's just inconsequential flavor text that'll leave you with tons of questions and never get expanded upon.
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>>378677270
>movement speed down
>damage taken up
>no healing
Anything but decreased fucking skill speed
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>>378677297
To be honest, MNK players were fucking insufferable for those 2 weeks, so they deserve everything they got today.
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>>378677249
Yes. We also love Trump and Neo Nazis. Never come back.
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>>378677021
>>378677380
>all that space that is wasted
This is the problem with zoning mmos that aren't all open. All this dead space is stupid.
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>>378676284
All the weeb shitters flocking to SAM will be disappointed
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>>378677346
Simply retarded
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>>378676769
It doesn't really irk me much but I did feel like the potency on MCH's main combo wasn't high enough to justify a 50/50 chance at it succeeding without using ammo
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>>378677442
>movement speed down
>tank starts moving the boss ever so slightly so you're always out of reach while the SAM fucking teleports everywhere all the time
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I guess it's really is over for WHM, my last hope is in E3 when they said subject are to change. In anycase I havent seen a full explanation to healer changes from the official. If it stay like that then I will go full AST main.
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>>378677021
FFXII map cool
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>>378674181
hyped as fuck for Stormblood, only thing that made me sad was BRD losing foe's requiem since getting dat holy spirit buff would've been amazing, still good to be back.
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>>378677442
>we make this job fast!
>but then we make it slow!
I don't get them.
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>>378677249
Kids these days don't know about Mad Thad
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>>378675309
Embrace got nerfed but main and mend affects pets now so no, not really a nerf
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POTD with 4 Samurais is going to be fun

>literally pull everything
>do your BIG AOE dick DPS and destroy everything in sight
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>>378677452
>MNK player who shut up and waited to see because nothing can ever go right for monks
>Everything turned out exactly as expected
SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOTTA ACCEPT YOURSELF FOR THE SELFISH NO UTILITY DPS YOU ARE.
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Stop playing DRK
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>>378677249
Ahoy Reddit
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>>378677536
I just don't see the point behind it at all. It doesn't make the job harder or easier in any way and you can't swing things in your favor all that much either.
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>true thrust -> vorpal thrust = 390 potency
>impulse drive -> impulse drive = 380 potency
THEY DID IT
THEY FIXED DRAGOON
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>>378676645
Probably the ugliest cat I've ever seem, congratulations.
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>>378677465
*tips fedora*
We are anonymous right ?
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>>378677249
>a fictional character turns someone on and looks nothing like an acual child
>OMG THINK OF THE REAL CHILDREN
this is my waifu anon, does this trigger you
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>>378677548
>not actively bashing the shit out of WHM on public forums before and after launch so that it gets the MCH 3.1 treatment
It's like you ACTUALLY want the job to die.
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>trick attack still good
>unless tooltip was wrong, venom buff back to the op first version
>applying slashing debuff is no longer a dps loss
>frog buddy
>still can't escape the cuckshed because 4x samurai is the meta
oh well, it was a fun three years
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>>378677297
>Spend the entirety of ARR being obnoxious
>Spend the last two weeks being obnoxious
>W-we have it so hard
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>3 days of E3
>Followed by Stormblood
It feels like i'm a little kid waiting for Christmas again
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All tanks are avoiding the cuckshed this expac
DRK and WAR were gutted
PLD buff
They made it this way so all tanks will be relevant
When picking tanks it will mostly be left to preference
WAR only one ups DRK and PLD if the group doesn't have NIN or SAM in it but who the fuck won't have atleast one those jobs in their static
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>>378677759
Yiff in hell
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REMINDER THAT SB IS STILL 15 DAYS AWAY, THEY OFFICIALLY SAID THAT THINGS ARE STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE. DONT GIVE UP HOPE
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>>378676910
Yeah I guess I deserve to see my favorite job be tossed in the dumpster for another expansion because some faggot spammed the thread with his shitty MSPaint pictures and caps-filled shitposts.
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>>378677640
>every single SAM does their opening for Midare Setsugekka
>followed by Meikyo Shisui going into Midare Setsugekka again
>followed by Hissatsu: Guren
psst... nothing personnel... Black Rider
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>>378677689
Holy FUCK
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>>378677442
It'd be funny if it caused damage over time. Like your punches were so fucking strong and fast that they are setting your body on fire.
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>>378677629
already did mtq has alot of errors like saying sflare was unchanged.>>378675902
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>>378677829
>ARR
I shit on Monks relentlessly through ARR, they were hot garbage.
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>>378677249
Less than 4 years ago some people would spam real fucking cp.
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>>378677850
as long as it's with my waifu sure :^)
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>>378677759
>furfaggot
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MNK shitters BTFO
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>>378672124

This gauge looks awful.
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>>378676576
Yeah i don't get it either. 130% benefic shield was fine. It did not need any other buffs. It doesn't need the heal potency buff. Yoship is retarded or he is listening to the retarded ast players.

Makes no difference to me, i'll still main sch and ignore rraid setting since its trash anyway.
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>>378673527
What's worse is the shitters will try enforce a meta used for speedrunning, in a fucking learning party
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>>378676178
That's actually what I did to get the penguin minion. I happened to have another account from winning a key giveaway.

Not sure if it'll work but you can just try using a free trial account now that there's no time limit.
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>>378677179
>nigger
>everyone using it is white
really makes you think
Also it's ancient. White kids started using it to be hip.
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>>378677856
I already have. But just means I'll be waiting until around E3 to pre-order instead of right now. Glad I waited, I guess. I need some time to get over this shock.
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>>378677689

Source on info?
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>disconnected from server for no reason
>queue to get back on some low pop NA server

Yeah great new servers you got there Yoshi-p, thanks a lot.
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>>378677689
It was the first thing i noticed when i watched MTQ's video, surprised more people aren't talking about it. Now leveling lancer has you spam 2 keys instead of just one.
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>>378677994
You can simplify the gauge to where it doesn't look as bad.
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this game sucks
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>>378677949
And how it's a good thing ? Stop being edgy for 2 sec and think about it
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Super hyped to play RDM, class looks pretty fun. Not looking forward to every retarded Aura/Cat SAM I get in dungeons however.
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>>378677669
I'll be forced to now, you fucking hack.
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>>378677949
You know, it's honestly been a really long time since I've had to report CP or anything on this site. I wonder what happened, used to be some cheeky cunt would spam it on occasion.
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>>378678107
No you can't.
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>>378677759
you have a good waifu
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>>378678145
What is the problem with DRK? Seems fine to me.
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>>378678041
t. WHM
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>>378677994
All the new Job HUDs look like garbage. I can't believe they're gonna be mandatory.
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>>378677994

"Astral Fire and Umbral Ice also increase the speed with which MP regenerates."

It's a typo, right?
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>>378677790
I already did that, in anycase waiting is only hope left for whm.
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>>378678121
Fuck off froggie
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>>378678210
Most likely. Should just be Umbral Ice.
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>>378678110
Yes it does. We all have stockholm syndrome.
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>>378678183
And SMN.
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>>378677932
>Monks were garbage in ARR
lol ok
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>>378677668

>no utility
>only dps with mantra
>flat 5% dps increase on all damage with 16.6% uptime
>high mobility with riddle of wind, allowing melee dps to help on what would normally be ranged dps only adds
>20% damage reduction allowing potential of soaking mechanics
>one ilm punch stuns through immunities allowing cheesing of potential mechanics when adds are involved
>4 sources of stuns
>+% damage increase is literally called brotherhood

MNKs are your friends, and we look out for our raid members.
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>>378678301
and MNK.
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>>378678174
DRKs do not provide any benefit other than possibly doing the most DPS, though we won't know that until it's out.
As it is now, PLD will mitigate better and do a lot of damage.
War is literally the same except they can do 4-6 fell cleaves.
DRK does not provide int down nor does it provide reprisal.
Any reason to bring a DRK is no longer existing, unless like I said they somehow doing the most DPS.
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>>378678301
SMN is fucking fine. Every "nerf" they got is made up for and then some in other areas.
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MCH's flamethrower gives me an erection.
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>>378678369
Fuck off mhigger.
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>>378678289
My long term goal in this game has been to get a house. Will probably get one in Shirogane since I'm a neet at the moment and will be there once it opens.

Wonder what the hell I'll want to work towards after that.
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>yfw the benchmark was actually an accurate scenarion and SAMs are shitting out so much damage they're regularly ripping hate and tanks feed them their cooldowns so they don't have to slow down
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>take potency from MNK
>give it to PLD

Why?
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>>378677963
>2 people triggered over a drawing
haha
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>>378678121
I never said it was, only that this site was always full of freaks.
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>720 potency weaponskill
>buffed to 1080 potency by ability
>have at least 20 kenki and all 3 sens
>buff to 1080p fuckery
>use SAM PB
>gain 30 kenki and all 3 sens
>buff to 1080p fuckery again
Yeah nah, this shit is going to be nerfed pretty hard after too long.
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>>378678476
Shirogane houses won't be available for purchase at launch.
Please look forward to it.
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>>378677932
>How to spot a HW baby
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>>378678476

That used to be my goal until they introduced the need to resub to keep your house.
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>mfw I see a MNK or WHM trying to find a party around me
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>>378678553
No it won't, Yoshi has a massive boner for samurai and japanese culture and will defend this shit to the death.
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>>378674447
Prease rook 4word too eet
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>>378678020
Oh yeah, a trial should be able to do it.
Hopefully.
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>>378674447
>2
How long before it's cut down to 1?
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>>378678553
You forgot 15% shifuu damage buff again.

So its actually around 1.2k
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>>378678161
You literally can. Don't talk shit when you don't know what you are talking about
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>>378678553
>>buffed to 1080 potency by ability
You also have to remember that the 150% weaponskill ability is on a 5 second recast timer and costs 20 Kenki, which is pretty much fucking chump change at 70 because every single weaponskill generates Kenki.
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Have they given any new info on Eureka other than the fact it exists?

>>378678713

15 days
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>>378674678
>people thinking PLD is going to MT fuckall for 4.0

PLD gained way more in terms of DPS and OT utility than even DRK. No PLD will ever want to start a fight in shield oath or ever want to be in shield oath after these changes. Intervention + cover are crazy, and requiescat + fight or flight is going to make PLD's DPS nuts.

Im actually thinking the meta will be something like DRK/PLD/AST/SCH/DRG/NIN/RDM/BRD
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>>378678464
Can I see?
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>>378678662
>mfw sch is just as cucked as whm
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>>378678742
That's not real, that's a mockup an anon or was it a redditor made.
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>>378678042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ninb6tRNbVw
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>>378678543
I was just excepting some dignity from /v/. I mean it's a blueboard and all, but well maybe i'm too naive.
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>when your dps job gets nerfed the fuck out cause your retard healer brother kept getting into shitposting contests with white mages
god damnit
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>>378678742
oh thank god
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>>378678690
So you don't get matched with other people, try changing the language setting on the duty finder to something unique so you get matched with your alt that has the same language setting .
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>>378678417
They have Blackest Night. Pretty much equal with other tanks as far as utility goes. WAR's only utility is the slashing debuff which can be provided by other jobs. PLD admittedly has a lot of mitigation and utility but ultimately DRKs will still be desired if they do more damage.
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>>378678868
>Increase crit %
>Just as cucked
Nah, SCH has a spot forever
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I'm fucking ready bros
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>>378678553
>Yoshida: Yeah. It's meant to be an extremely strong job. I mentioned it on the producer letter live, it's a difficult job, but it has great potential.
>Although the mechanisms are easily understood on the surface, when you start thinking about how to use them most efficiently, it is really deep.
>Where do you consume Keniki to use Hissatsu, and what kind of Hissatsu do you use... I think there will be differing takes on things like that.

>Yoshida: I think it's good to have jobs included for pro players. It's a type of melee job that gets better and more capable the more you play it and get used to it - it's packed with potential. The only simple part of it is moving around (laughs).
>It definitely felt like there was room for players to develop their skills on samurai.


yeah, nerf coming soon bro
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>>378677689
holy fuck and it only took them 2 expansions to not make DRG fucking miserable pre-26!
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>>378678553
>using your sword juice on anything other than the damage buff skill is almost always dps loss
this is fine
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>>378678742
that's not real
but they said they were going to make simpler bars so we'll just have to wait and see
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>>378678945
>steam
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>>378677759
seriously though kill yourself and stay away from children until you kill yourself you degenerate
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>>378678892
I'm a monk main but am I glad I levelled a DRG relic
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>Royal Authority changed from 350 to 360 potency
>You can now do 360 while doing 360
Preordered
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>>378673060
It's completely justified but more an accumulation of what happened with HW and this one simplifying the job, when it never ever got more complex since almost the release, while also bringing the worst new skills of the expansion to MNKs, expanding a system without changing it when said system is completely fucking uninteresting and only had a reason to exist if they were to make PGL branch out to a tanking job, which it won't ever now.

When other jobs had multiple new skills ending up being part of their rotation and completely changing it and complexifying it for heavensward, MNKs only got a single useful off-GCD skill to add to their rotation and the ability to change stances everything else was at best used once per fight.

It's been 4 years since the release and MNK plays pretty much the exact same, its most game changing patch was released like 3 months after the release of ARR, when they changed the potency of several skills, nothing changed since except adding some off GCD shit.

We had to wait 2 extra years to have a system that makes some of the tools we got in HW actually usable and to make matters worse, that late delivery is somehow the best thing we got this extension, MNK is in more ways than one, an expansion behind when talking about added and working systems.
Riddle of Earth is made for absolute shitters while also making Tornado Kick completely useless since you'll always want to keep your stacks rather than spend them on a single skill, Riddle of Wind is redundant and Riddle of Fire manages to be the worst damage cooldown by such a huge gap that you actually have to be sure to have all of your oGCD skills ready to not make it a DPS loss when using it.

They could've added new combos that generate chakra instead of refreshing GL to give us a change of pace or revamp the Fists system to something else but no.
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>>378678914
Why did you even reply to me if you literally just agreed to what I said. They won't matter unless they do more DPS as I said, the blackest knight will be indirect utility since it's basically a mini-infuriate for DRKs.
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>>378679030
What's wrong with Steam
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>>378672447
*blocks your path*
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>>378677994
Am I the only one OK with the tooltips we have already?
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>>378678417
Blackest night ensures DRK will never be outdone by a PLD in terms of mitigation. It's literally the same as sheltron except better.

You will bring a DRK over a PLD if the DRK provides as much mit as the encounter requires and is also doing more DPS than PLD.
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>WoW's warlocks will have more dots than summoners
Remember when FFXIV players mocked WoW for being braindead?
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>>378678990
It doesn't matter, by the time you've gathered 3 Sen required for Midare Setsugekka, you have more than enough Kenki to use Kaiten.
The last trait SAM gets is generating Kenki through ALL weaponskills excluding Iaijutsu.
You'll be swimming in Kenki.
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>>378678868
>20% crit button
I don't think so. Also, I love the way that the new page heal thing works, SCH didn't really have anything to deal with lots of expected damage except an emergency tactics adlo. I didn't expect them to actually build on the whole 'tactician' identity this much.
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>>378679184
Fuck off
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>>378676886
>get sustained bloodbath and resource regeneration out of it
Kek
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>>378679069
>360 while doing 360
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>>378679110
nothing, you just missing out a lot of sales from third parties.
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>>378679237

Summoners in XIV were always a poor man's Warlock.
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>all the stun, silence abilities getting FUKT
WHAT ABOUT SPIRIT WITHIN, IT WAS PLD COOLEST LOOKING MOVE
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>>378679184
>makes the best MCH gun in the game look tiny and gay
Theres literally nothing good about potatoes.
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>>378679037
>I can't tell the difference between reality and fiction
there are people who can help with that anon, you don't have to live your life like that please seek help it will do you good
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>was expecting AST to get nerfed in the ground
>was expecting SCH's Critlo to get nerfed and infinite MP
>was generally expecting WHM to get proper shielding

>AST gets wtfbuffed further
>SCH is now crit-god and now can role-skill an extra MP skill for some reason
>WHM loses Stoneskin, relies on RNG for their Job Gauge gimmick

So what'll occur first, AST nerf or WHM overhaul similar to 2.1 WAR?
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So what's gonna be the meta for role abilities?

Muh blood for blood is gone
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>>378679082

I've always thought the base gameplay of MNK was solid and didn't need much extension, because constant positionals make it more active than any class.

More chakra spenders would have been nice, like a long CD that grants a buff (GL4?) at the cost of chakra stacks.

I agree with riddle of earth, using tornado kick to drop stacks was a lot more fun than just keeping them even if it is the smarter choice. There should be a free way to cast tornado kick somewhere in the rotation or under the effects of a buff.
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>>378679110
Non-Steam and Steam versions use different keys, people often get confused by it and end up buying the wrong game key during random sales. Other than that (and the fact that Steam client is stupid as fuck with MMOs in general), there is nothing wrong with it.
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>>378679082
This desu, MNK really got shafted "new" skills-wise.
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>>378679106
'cause you're just assuming they're gonna do less damage and therefore be useless. Even if PLD is the undisputed main tank, WAR no longer has a stranglehold on the OT spot. You could just as easily say any of the tanks have been ruined based on the same speculation.
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>>378679375
It's still in, but no Silence aspect on it.
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>>378679375
PvP is going to be even MORE bland if that was even possible. Like holy shit.
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>>378679264
>SCH didn't really have anything to deal with lots of expected damage except an emergency tactics adlo.
Yes they did, it was called their co-healer.
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>>378679208
>it's a war trying to turn drks and plds against each other
Day of the shed is coming
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Will silence be useful in pve now?
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>>378679420
For melee? Invig will be mandatory, rest is pretty much up to you.
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>>378679208
PLD got an equivalent of blackest night though with minimal differences, blackest night is not even close to sheltron in anything. I think any tank composition in 4.0 will be so close to each other that it won't really matter unless you go for world first or #1 static rankings in fflogs.
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>tfw WHMs are going to have to healslut BEFORE the run instead of after just to get a spot
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>tfw was leveling MNK for stormblood
>switched to BLM two days ago
That's a good feeling.
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>>378679398
WHM overhaul. Expect them to boost DPS attack potency and reduce RNG bullshit.
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>>378679379
>trying this hard to defend your mental illness

reminder that no one loves you or ever will love you because you're a freak that jerks off to little girls
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>>378679375
It's still there without the silence, wish they buffed the damage to make up for it, but oh well.
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>>378679251
>The last trait SAM gets is generating Kenki through ALL weaponskills excluding Iaijutsu.
oh shit that changes everything
>>
They need to tell us already when the maintenance starts. I'm guessing on toesday the 13th, but still. Gotta plan ahead what to grind and save up.
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>>378679551
In what way is Blackest Night not equivalent to sheltron. You know that blocking a skill doesn't eliminate the damage, right? It just reduces it by 20%. So Blackest Night is better against any attack that isn't a OHKO or stronger.
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>>378679551
>all three tanks are viable so no constant tank shitflinging
>WHM is so laughably bad there won't be any controversy just occasional AST/ SCH shitposting

Melees will be the new shitposting frontier
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>>378679605
I was leveling it to get those few more lines of dialogue in Stormblood but I just really dislike it.
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so what im gettin from this thread

SAM is overpowered?
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>>378679721
Very. Even the testers found that 4 samurai is higher damage than the current dream comp set up.
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>>378679613
>WHMs get 'balances'
>Only thing changed is Stone I-IV now has 20% chance of giving a Lily
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Did we get any news about selene's abilities? Seeing devotion for SMN makes me feel like they either shifted her role a bit or changed her fey wind skill again.
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>>378679551
>blackest night is not close to sheltron

it doesnt cost 50 blackblood. It gives 50 blackblood if it expires. It absorbs 20% of your maximum HP for 6 seconds while its up, regardless if its physical, magic or darkness damage. Except you can also give it to your party member, just like intervention but with a weaker effect. Blackest night is two of PLDs skill put into one. Blackest night is at least better than sheltron.
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>>378679721
Nippon steel put every other dps into cuckshed.
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>>378679267
say that to my face motherfucker
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>>378679761
T-thanks, YoshiP.
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>>378679721
1080 potency. Let that sink in.
One thousand and eighty potency.
Twice within ten seconds.
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>GDC Potency increases across the board
>Dream Within a Dream potency increased by 50%, cooldown reduced by 30 seconds
>can enter Hokage mode to do 3 OGCDs back-to-back-to-back for 1560 potency, followed by Trick Attack for 400 potency + the raid damage buff

Wait guys what's going on, I could have sworn ninjas were supposed to be...
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>>378679880
1200
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>>378679880
doesn't the buff say increases BY 150%? not TO 150%
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Weren't they removed b4b and ir?
Fix my ping and let me double weave you fucking
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>Looking at videos of the new info
>Larryzaur has a retarded comment on each one with around 100 likes each
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>>378679849
>>
>Yoshi makes SAM OP as fuck so even Kiritoshitters can actually contribute something

So thoughtful
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>>378679619
>now he is trying to save face
it's ok anon, let me remind you that i AM a real person and not a fake one, just a helpful hint to you since you seem to get the two mixed up alot.
just a reminder, this is a FAKE person in this pic anon just try to remember that don't want you calling the cops on a murder or anything
>>
>HW
>dude everyone learns the same amount of skills lmao
>SB
>dude everyone has some sort of bar lmao
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>>378673528
>Doesnt generate extra enmity like all other AoE

Monkeys paw in action
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>>378679946
Mistranslation
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>>378678553
>TFW direct hitting+critting Setsugekka under the effect of Guren, Jingu, Enhanced Balance, Embolden, Brotherhood, Left Eye, and a potion while the boss is under the effect of slashing down, Trick Attack and Hypercharge

720*1.5*1.3*1.5*1.15*1.3*1.1*1.05*1.05*~1.1*1.1*1.1*1.05 = motherfucking 5336 potency

just for reference, this is about as much as caster lb3
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>>378672447
>tfw drk got cucked
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>>378679957
Stop shilling yourself here you fuck
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>>378679761
Realistically, what could be done to fix WHM without throwing out the Lily system entirely?
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>>378680119
Please stop playing DRK. You make the rest of us look bad.
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>>378679957
Children like autists.
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>>378680119
You're an idiot lmao
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>>378680149
Making the Lillies proc based on total HP healed by the WHM instead of RNG would be a great start
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>>378680149
You can't give it more utility since that is outside of their job role so there is nothing that can be done.
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>>378680149
Make it auto-charge a lily every 15s.
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>>378676643
>>378676658
>>378676783
>>378677129
That's no way to talk to ladies, anons.

>>378680119
>edgy lalafell

Awesome look. Sorry about the changes.
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really fires up those aetheric pathways
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>>378679963
>Yoshi turns DRK into a 1-2-3 job so even Kiritoshitters can actually contribute something
that Yoshi is a fucking genius
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>>378680272
that's a horrible idea
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>>378679619
ok anon here is another one this is another NOT REAL PERSON so don't get up set over it ok.

Remeber
Fiction is not the same a Reality ok anon
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>>378680307
>>378680119
Kill yourself
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so will sam or rdm be the bigger memeclass
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>>378680104
nothing personnel... kid
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>>378679398
Where is this webm from?
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>>378680119
t. war
Day of the shed is coming for you
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>>378679251
no i mean
if you don't hit guren on two targets using that skill on the 3seal is the most efficient use of kenki per point spent and it isn't even close
it's really brainless and should not make it into sb in it's current form
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SMN HYPE WATCH ME GET 5x RUIN IV IN YOUR ASS PARSEFAGS
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>>378680380
>nin is 123 too now
I like shadow fang replacing gust slash.
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>>378680442
Looks like FFXIV
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>>378680149
One decent party DPS buff would solve most of their viability problems. However the Lily system itself would still be shit.

Instead of being RNG, it should just be 1 Lily per X amount of MP spent, regardless of if it was from heals or attacks. Each Lily should reduce your spell recast time by 5%.

Then the one-time reduction in cooldowns you get from them should be 25/50/75% instead of the pissweak 4/10/20 it is now.

Divine Benison should be AoE and should be an 6% health shield per Lily so max 18% shield.
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>>378680310
Really the player races are no different than the Beast Tribes

>Worship a god (The Twelve)
>When something beyond their power to stop happens (Bahamut) they turn to their god and try to summon them to stop it
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>>378678793
>people thinking PLD isn't going to MT all of 4.0

You ever heard of blocking and mitigating magic damage, bitch? DRK has literally no reason to exist

PLD best OT best MT

Meta is now PLD/PLD/PLD/PLD/PLD/PLD/PLD/PLD
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>>378673526
SMN's physick can barely keep the tank egi alive against single-boss FATEs, mate.
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>>378672447
>>378679184
>>378676550
>>378676645
>>378680119
Who invited /xivg/ here? Fuck off
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>>378680408
Sam for sure. If you're a shit player just be a Sam for a guaranteed spot.
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>>378680442
1.0 FFXIV
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>>378680408
Everyone is going to playing SAM. Blows all other DPS out of the water.
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>>378680104
>yfw you actually lose PPS for casting LB3 as SAM
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>>378680442
Looks like 1.0.
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>>378679820
>>378679707

of course blackest night is better than sheltron as in what it does, that's why it costs 2400 mp, but comparing it to sheltron when intervention exists is kind of unfair, plus intervention and sheltron are the only PLD skills that use the gauge, so you're never losing dps when using them, as opposed to spending 2400 mp on blackest night. All tanks are looking amazing though and I'm gonna play them all, really curious about the difference between comps, I get the feeling it will be unnoticeable.
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>>378680149
Lilies increase personal damage and healing output by 10% per lily. Cooldown reduction from consuming lilies increased to 25% per lily.
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>>378680543
Except that Louisoix is the only person who's ever summoned the Twelve, and he only did it to force a shitload of aether to coalesce and planned on killing himself before they manifested.
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>lily system
>lily is eos real name
Fuck off whm, lily is ours
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AST here, still getting a bit used to the job

What's general card strategy? Is it really just "If it's not Balance (or Arrow if there's a BLM), RR/toss it"?
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>>378680607
Blackest Night also gives 50 blood though which you can spend on Bloodspiller. If anything, using it is a DPS gain.
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>>378680586
I love how the music always timed perfectly so that the crescendo happened as you ran through that arch and the sunbloom thing happened in sync
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>>378672124
WHM on suicide watch
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>>378673931
>>378674121
I don't know the doujin, but I know the character. It's louise from zero no tsukaima.
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>>378680623
Then you run into a 2.0 WAR situation where you sit on your stacks all day.

>>378680442
From about three days ago.
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>>378680586
>even with no more PS3 support ARR doesn't look this good
How did they fuck up this badly?
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>>378680586
Really like how vast the game felt in 1.0 compared to now. Everything else about 1.0 was garbage though.
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>>378680712
Yoshida spent his budget on something other than cutscenes.
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>>378680674
not when it uses 2400 mp imo, but we'll see.
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>>378680149
If a Lillie could proc regardless of the action taken it would work. Regen and Medica 2 are the mainstay for WHM, not Cure and Cura.
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>>378680701
>Then you run into a 2.0 WAR situation where you sit on your stacks all day.
This.
Fuck lower cooldowns, Im keeping that +30% dps/heals boost.
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>>378680857
Then what did he spend it on?
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>>378680712
They dropped PS3 support but they're still using the toaster ass graphics, they didn't actually upgrade anything
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>>378680664
she's blooming for us, every night, now.
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>>378680862
It's the same MP cost as Dark Arts.
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>>378679902
NIN is good.
The only question is if they will be with SAM or DRG
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>>378680487
i'm gonna miss the weird offset timers, it kept the class just interesting enough
although i tried to figure out the optimal ninki usage on the way back from work and that shit gave me a headache, so there still might be some stuff that keeps you on your toes with nin
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>full thrust potency going up to 440
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>>378680857
Reminder that he did nothing wrong and will return in this expansion.
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I see a lot of hype about this MMO right now.

Can I buy a level booster to get all my classes to the highest level and then go through lower-level content to learn the skill rotations?
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>>378680905
Whores.
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>>378680905
Renting castles.
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>>378680673
DPS buff always has priority so yeah. Going for expanded balance is the only thing you ever want.
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>>378681032
He did good.
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>>378680405
No u
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>>378680914
>toaster ass graphics
PC limitations holding the game back, feels weird
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>>378680905
Daddies cummies
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>>378680857
>takes over 1.0
>has the team finish up the stuff already in work
>refocus the team doing the 1.0 expansion to work on ARR rework
>waste resources on the VIIth Meteor Project to kill off 1.0
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>>378681018
Don't do it and find a different game to play. Trust me you don't want to get into this hot garbage.
>>
>>378679849
everyone will be Jump boosting samurai's, wait for it.
>>
ok BRD or RMG or SAM
QUICK HELP ME PICK
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>>378681081
if that was in US 90% of those girls would be obese
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>>378681081
>Yoshi Nuhn
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>>378680914
>>378681092
It's a good think they're dropping support for lower end PCs.
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>>378681018
>>378681157
This pretty much. MMOs are a dying genre.
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>>378681184
Not for a long time.
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>>378681157
>I roll a MNK
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>>378681184
the jump potions dont work on the new jobs
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>>378681192
He doesn't like fat chicks.
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>smn is now a dragonfag like drg
Fuck dots and fester, bahamut, bahamut!
>>
>>378681295
i loved 1.0's DOOM mode
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>>378681326
Monk got nerfed? How?
>>
>>378681365
Is YoshiP Irish?
>>
>was planning on going WHM
>Apparently WHM is ruined somehow
>No one will say exactly how
Is it because AST got buffed?
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>>378681454
Do you care for raiding and world first? If no then don't worry.
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>>378681420
What do you think?
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>>378681454
You know what WHM's problems are right now? They didn't get fixed.

They also have to spend 4 CC slots just to get their old skills back.
>>
>>378681454
Because they were given absolutely no party DPS utility while SCH and AST got shitloads, and their new healing skills are RNG-based and weak to boot. They are a pure healer that isn't good at healing, in a game where pure healers are useless.
>>
>>378681563
hol up das a bulge
>>
>>378681454
>WHM damage spells severely reduced in potency
>most of its spells are now cross-class
>new spells are just more heals and a shield
>its gauge is RNG bullshit that either slightly buffs damage/heals or slightly lowers cooldown time
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>>378679902
>dwad always lines up with ta now
>poison is back to working on all damage, so you get a new 660 potency attack to go with it when hokage modo is down
nin now, nin forever
>>
>whining about jobs being nerfed/buffed

Am I the only one here that doesn't have this problem? I play every single class at a high level and I literally couldn't care less if MNK sucks and SAM is good.
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>>378681295
>someone bothered saving that
It looks so much more spectacular in 1080p without webm compression. All post/shader effects were still done at the full resolution despite the inengine visuals being done at about a quarter resolution.

It was so fucking weird looking.
>>
>>378681454
Everything that was special about whm except for holy are now shared healer role actions. In exchange they get an rng proc to maybe lower ONE cooldown, an rng proc to increase ONE spell's healing , and stone fucking 4
>>
Konnichiwa...

Can we talk japanese only from now on
>>
>>378681689
>>WHM damage spells severely reduced in potency
This isn't true at all. Their personal damage is increased and they have the highest personal DPS and AoE DPS of all the healers now. But that doesn't mean shit when AST and SCH are bringing things like Balance and Strategem
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>>378681715
>I play every single class at a high level
Post logs
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>>378681715
>

Yeahm in a game like XIV where class balance is largely a non issue I don't see the point

It's not like anyone in this thread are bleeding edge, world first competitors
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>>378681726
I always enjoy seeing Shtola on all fours.
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>>378681787
Wakarimasen lol
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>nin still #1
Hhaha, get fucked you and your chrakra, I will never take your spot in the shed.
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>>378681715
Just the people who clear raids in the first day and world first groups bitching, which is most of /v/.
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>>378680905
developing mog station items
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>>378681787
You first.
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>>378681454
see
>>378673778
>>378673792
>>378674613

And many, many more. READ . THE. THREAD.
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>>378681834
>balance is largely a non issue
There were jobs that were routinely non-desirable because of the performance gap at a high level. Obviously balance is a non issue in Sastasha.
>>
Who maining DRG here?
>>
>>378681942
Ok desu, arigatou gozaimasu
>>
>>378681715
The only people complaining are people who can only play one class decently.

People who can play multiple classes have no problems.
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>>378681989
>There were jobs that were routinely non-desirable because of the performance gap at a high level.

Except every job could complete the hardest content without much issue at balanced gear levels. The only time it's mattered is when you're doing it undergeared while also learning the content
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>>378681989
>There were jobs that were routinely non-desirable because of the performance gap at a high level.
There was hardly any gap, and you'd know that if you actually bothered to look at things instead of listening to what Mr Happy tells you. The difference between the highest and lowest dps jobs is 300.
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>>378681989
Yeah maybe in the groups pushing realm first that make up the 1%. The general populace has no issue with any particular comp.
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>>378681940
As if, we all know mog station stuff is mainly just cut content.
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>>378682205
>over 10% of higher DPS' performance is not a gap
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I normally don't give a fuck about dps, but holy shit how the fuck. Fucking Baelsar's wall/
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>>378681862
She'll be permanently on it when she dies in 4.0.

>>378682224
General raiding populace banked pretty hard on the meta comp to make ends meet in Gordias/Midas.
>>
>someone else is following the XIV private server
My nigga.
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>>378679082
>Riddle of Earth is made for absolute shitters while also making Tornado Kick completely useless
Shit nigga this didn't even cross my mind. Tornado Kick is just a coup de grace for PvP now.
>>
OCEANIC SERVERS FUCKING WHEN
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>>378682224
The problem is that the raiding community is autistic and even if they aren't bleeding-edge, world-first players, they will form their opinions and behaviour around what the world-first players say and do. So even if holding to the "meta-comp" has no benefit to them, they'll still cling to it for dear life because they want every possible advantage.
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>>378682359
They relied upon something their neither needed nor understand. You dont need a meta comp weeks after launch, let along months or with echo. Yet the NA population believe you do.
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>>378676628
>>378676367
That's what made DRG interesting.

It's like people just want to dial phone numbers without using their brain and bitch about fflogs until the devs turn this game into WoW . You can't even complain that DRG was unviable in SCoB because it was far from the true.
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>>378682452
Except that PvP skills are different now too.
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>>378682462
This is very true, even now PF *speed runs* dick suck the meta so hard its not even funny
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>>378682492
Or the less skilled players just needed the extra DPS that comes from playing the meta vs. just playing what they want.

People rode Trick Attack really hard to make ends meet.
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>>378682314
Bard is a support class.
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>>378681081
Those two catbois are unhappy because they know they will be spending the night in the shed. At least they have each other.
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>tfw every dps class but NIN and SAM going to the shed
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make a new thread niggers
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>>378682314
Why do you have a Gladiator for a tank that's afking?
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