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Final Fantasy XIV: Stromblood

New Job info:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MTQcapture/videos
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>Poor Little White Mage
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cuckshed
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is NIN still top or what
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we're fucking dead
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WHM comeback in 5.0 confirmed.

Just wait.
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>>378664054
NIN is now the dedicated SAM prepper.
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>>378664106
Probably much sooner once YoshiP starts getting death threats about fucking everything up.
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PREDICT YOUR DPS COMP

>SAM, DRG, BRD, RDM
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on your knees white mages
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>>378664106
>MNK comeback in 4.0 confirmed.
>Just wait.
Really makes you think...
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>>378664106
Hopefully it will be 4.2 or 4.3 when the meta goes through a change.
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Where my homeboys NIN and SAM at?
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Tell me your story, anon.
>your ARR main(s)
>your HW main(s)
>your SB main(s)
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What was the point of nerfing SMN especially when casters are becoming less desired?
>Bane got gutted
>Miasma II is gone and no more Blizzard to use
>Ruin IV isn't even an improvement, it's just the current Ruin III but as a proc, meanwhile Ruin III goes from 200 to 150
>Fester does 200 instead of 300 now

Demi-Bahamut can't even make up for it. Akh Morn is 680 potency and you can use it twice, but it has damage penatly. His 160 potency Shockwave for each attack you make (makes it 5 + 2 Akh Morns) isn't going to make up for it, plus you can only summon him every 2 minutes.
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>>378664215
i want this
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SAM's Higanbana DoT requiring 1 Sen ruins the flow of combat. What are you supposed to do? A Gekko Combo -> Higanbana, then Yukikaze, Kasha, and nother Gekko to finally be able to do a Midare Setsugekka?
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>>378664215
>brd
They lost foes and their raid dps buffing utility is even weaker than the now nerfed hypercharge.
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>>378664137
>mfw Nin prepares a trick attack just as I prepare my MIDARE SETSUGEKKA+KAITEN+MEIKYO SHISUI+KAITEN+MIDARE SETSUGEKKA

broship confirmed
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>>378664274
WHM
WHM/AST
WHM/AST/RDM
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>>378664274
>PLD
>DRK
>,,,,drk?

I dont know how I feel about the DRK changes..
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>>378664274
blm blm blm
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>>378664274
WHM PLD
WHM PLD
WHM PLD

i have very mixed feelings about SB
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I main WHM and I like these changes, thin air and the flowers are pretty good to spam heals.
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How do you think the pre-release testing goes on with the dev team?
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>>378664285
because SMN was the defacto aoe king and it wasn't even fucking close.
Also, don't forget that tri-disaster has a massive uptime now and boosts ruin damage in addition to adding dots.

It's a massive nerf, but it was coming from a mile away.
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I really can't wait to start fucking with you people
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>>378664274
DRG
SCH
SCH
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>>378664298
Do midare first then do Yukikaze once for Higanbana
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>Was completely uninterested in SAM after finding it was dps
>wasnt particularly impressed after the live letter video
>saw the abilties today and some gameplay and now want to main SAM
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>>378664274
NIN
BRD
SAM
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>tfw gonna run with a mid tier party comp and will still most likely clear content before 99% of this thread
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DRK WAR AST SCH NIN DRG BRD RDM

This is law.
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>>378664274
DRG
DRG
DRG
SAM

Basically only played DRG because I was hoping SAM would be an armored DPS like in XI.
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>>378664418
I think most classes can instantly deal with it.
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>mizzzzzzzzzzzteq

No
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>>378664352
A lot of us don't. Do we grit a lot or not, how useful is blackest night gonna be, yadda yadda. I feel like that with removal of certian combos the job is simplified, but on the other hand to maximize dps it's not very simple.
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>>378664274
WHM, later WHM/NIN
WHM/NIN/MCH
WHM/NIN/RDM or SAM
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>>378664418
>BLM puts down leylines
>Cast Rescue
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>>378664274
SCH
SCH
SAM
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>>378664274
>your ARR main(s)
MNK, Out of all of the classes then I only really like the way monk felt. Never raided though.
>your HW main(s)
MNK till A9s-12s I was a pretty awful monk then switched to NIN much better.
>your SB main(s)
NIN & WAR
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Music is still on point.
God bless Soken.
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>>378664274
BRD
MCH
SAM
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>>378664274
>WAR
>WAR
>WAR
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>>378664539
>Between the Lines
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>>378664481
>tfw gonna run with a shit tier party comp and will still most likely clear content before the year 3000
probably anyway
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>>378664274
>your ARR main(s)
WHM
>your HW main(s)
BRD MCH
>your SB main(s)
AST BRD
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I WANT TO FUCK YOSHIDA!!
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>>378664406
>Yoshida-san we'd like you to test out the new SAM abilities and see what you think
>Who cares abouttu that? Izza tha new cashu shoppu items ready for rerease?
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>>378664539
>instantly teleport back to leylines
k
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>>378664553
what did you expect?
it's soken after all
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B A R D B O Y S
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>>378664418
>trial roulette
>titan
>jump down and rescue the mt with me
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>>378664274
Started DRG in 2.0 beta
Switched to BLM at 2.0 launch
By end of 2.5 was bored so started leveling paladin
Decided to play paladin all the way through HW
Probably gonna stick with paladin and have blm as my side
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>>378664215
SAM, NIN, BRD, ???
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>>378664481
We ran PLD/WAR/MNK/MCH/BLM/DRG/WHN/AST and cleared creator by week 3.

Not impressive but better than the majority of the raid community
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>>378664274
Main Character
DRG, WHM, WAR
DRG, WAR
DRG, WAR
Alt
Nothing
NIN, AST, PLD, MNK
NIN, AST, PLD, cryingMNK
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>>378664689
Rescue on the mt can fuck up many things.
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>>378664689
>"you cannot execute this action while jumping'
Why do they have to ruin all the fun?
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>>378664274
SMN
SMN
RDM
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>>378664274
>BLM
>DRG to SMN
>RDM or AST
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>>378664274
WAR/DRG/SCH
DRK/DRG/SCH
PLD maybe/RDM and SAM but I expect to come back to DRG after the first months/SCH
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>>378664516
>to maximize dps it's not very simple.
DRK is now one of the easiest job in the game not that it was far off before. You want to spend all your MP on The Blackest Night to give you 50 Black Blood for a 380 potency Bloodspiller. It's basically using DA for 380 potency which is so far ahead of any other single target option. You'll only ever spend MP on something else when you're nearly full but Blackest Night still has a lot of its cooldown left. You don't even want to use Dark Passenger in single target anymore. The rest of the time, you'll do Souleater, and that's it.
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>>378664274
>ARR
SMN
>HW
DRK
>SB
DRK, because I'll probably be forced into a tank slot for my static and the other faggot will be oozing on WAR still.
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>>378664673
*crickets*
Sorry bro, all the smart players are moving to the big boy MCH
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>>378664215
Any classes that can buff SAM the best.
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>>378664539
>you have a 150s cooldown that you think "fucks with me"
>I have a 3s cooldown that says otherwise
Nice try, but if you do that shit I'll just kick your ass from the group and you'll just look retarded as it didn't affect me.
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>>378664274
>SCH PLD SMN
>SCH PLD
>SCH? PLD RDM SAM

Fuck gutting scholar's AoE. Thank fuck it won't affect raids.
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>>378664274
>NIN/PLD
>DRK/NIN
>PLD/SAM, maybe will pick up BLM, and level NIN for story purposes
DRK looks pretty disappointing, but PLD looks like a pretty good "magic tank" now. Time to go full Cecil in 4.0.
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>>378664274
PLD, WHM
PLD, AST
PLD, AST

Stay the course
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>>378664075
>>378663967
>nerfed damage
>DoT canned
>Arm of the Destroyer unchanged
>someone thought this was a good idea
Yoshi getting Japanese death threats yet? This is not ok.
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>>378664441
But any way you slice it, you're still going to have to repeat a combo before you can Midare again at any point, which makes it a 4 combo finisher instead of 3
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>>378664274
>NIN
>NIN, started playing a lot of DRK near the end for my casual FC though
>Undecided between DRK and SAM, RDM looks better and better the more I read, though
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>>378664834
>6 potency
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>>378664274
>PLD
>DRK
>DRK
Fray wouldn't want me to leave.
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>>378664274
DRG
DRG
Trying RDM first, because I want to do something new, but I will fall back on DRG if that doesn't turn out well.
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>>378664274
PLD
WAR/DRK
WAR/DRK

I was young and naive in HW. Then I played warrior.
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>>378664340
>new stat buff
>10% phys or magic vuln
>2% crit all day erry day
>something I forgot
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>>378664274
>ARR Main
I technically didnt beat ARR until 3.x came out because Russian pirates hacked into my account and SE was full of hacks who didnt want to give me my character back, but I was a DRG main.

>HW main
DRG main. Managed to defeat A9S-A11S.
Pocket WAR (Beat A9S and A10S) and fucking around with AST.

>SB main
Will main both WAR and DRG. Though WAR gets priority. Then I'll level a RDM to 70, hopefulyl before raiding season begins.
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>already have all the mounts from Gold Saucer
>have all the minions, cards and Setzer outfit too
>still have 3.75mil MGP
What the fuck am I supposed to do?
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>>378664972
You know those vulns apply to party right? Its protection against magic/physical, not on the boss.
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>>378664834
>>378664910
>MCHs on suicide watch
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>>378664274
>BLM
>BLM then DRG
>DRG then quit
>RDM or SAM if i come back
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>>378664274
WHM
WHM
WHM

Fuck you Yoshi, I'm not dropping it.
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>>378664274
MNK
MCH
SAM or DRK
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>>378664910
>895 combo potency
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>>378664274
>BLM
>BLM
>BLM
I'm looking at RDM but I'm not entirely sure I'll main it. BLM is practically the reason I started playing at all.
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>>378664418
>Enemy AoE attack targets healer.
>"rescue" the nearest DPS
>profit
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How'd things change for my main DRG Job?
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>>378664972
It's defense, not vuln. It's used on allies.
15% mini crits buff is what you forgot.
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>>378664834
>everytime a BRD post some MCH responds like "dont forget about us:^)"
kek your gonna be tooted out of existence accept it MCH mains
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Calmed down now, think i'm less mad about Summoner.

Pre-SB we had
Bio 40 Potency for 18 seconds
Bio 2 35 Potency for 30 seconds
Miasma 35 Potency for 24 seconds

Now we have:
Bio 3 40 Potency for 30 seconds
Miasma 3 40 Potency for 30 seconds

Contagion used to double the length of DoT's. Now it's a damage buff. Tri-Disaster has been buffed to refresh every time you enter DWT.

We have a party buff that not only increases damage, but also lessens damage for the whole group

Bahamut has a 160 Potency auto attack, as well as a 680 Potency Akh Morn that can be cast twice in quick succession.

We now have a 3rd way to replenish MP on top of Energy Drain and Aetherflow. Aethertrail Attunement also no longer drops off if unused, helping phase transitions.

Bane and Fester got nerfed. That sucks, but we'll be shitting out Akh Morns to make up for it.

Ruin 3 got nerfed, but Ruin 2 got buffed to compensate. Ruin 4 means we can throw out cheap Ruin 3's whenever they proc, and even reduces the cast of Enkindle as an added perk. Tri-Disaster also buffs the damage of all 4 Ruin spells for 15 seconds (making Ruin' 3/4 cast in DWT extra spicy.)

The new Virus shared amongst casters doesn't have an immunity downside, so we can all keep spamming that one after another.

Can't use Aetherflow, Enkindle or Rouse in DWT supposedly.

I'm okay with the 4.0 Summoner
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>>378664274
>your ARR main(s)
MNK
>your HW main(s)
MNK
>your SB main(s)
>mfw
I'm not touching SAM until I lv70 what I go in with. Considering switching to DRG.
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>Only ever played an hour of Tactics and never been past Cid's lab in XII.
I've failed YoshiP
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>songs don't restore mp/tp anymore and all have the same effect
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>>378664905
I don't understand what you're trying to say
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>Delusional SCH who think they aren't going to the cuckshed with WHM

There is literally no reason to not have 2 AST
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>>378665067
>Lost Phleb
>Lost Power Surge
>Doom Spike turned into a combo that works out to be the same potency for no reason
>Potency buffs across the board
>Full Thrust always procs Fang, Chaos Thrust always procs Wheeling
>Fang lets you use Wheeling right after and vice versa, i.e. 5 hit combos
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>>378665001
Save up MGP for the future of course.
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>Shields blocking magic damage
>Spammable AoE damage
>Goring Blade and Royal Authority potency buffs
>Passage of Arms
>Better OT synergy with Intervention and overall damage output buffs
>Anticipation in addition to Bulwark. Sheltron and passive shield blocks
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>>378665169
mp/tp regen is a cross role skill now
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>>378664418
>have to suffer through leveling as a monk post 4.0
>lalafell scholar pulls me at max range during my PB opener
>tear up as I pop fists of wind to catch up to the boss while the lalafell laughs at me
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>tfw you lost the cool shadowskin animation
fuck you
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>>378664819
Hm, yeah, especially in OT role. But in MT role you still have little reason to leave grit. Meh, I don't know. To be frank, I unsubbed recently and I wanted to check out the changes and see if it's worth resubbing but I don't think it is.
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>>378665169
the songs have an effect if you use a 2 or 3 minute cooldown and then they all give fucking defensive buffs

Even foes is just a defensive buff
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>>378665316
so many cool animations gone...

hopefully theyre still in gpose
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>>378664274
>SCH
>AST
>I don't know. Maybe PLD, or go back to SCH.
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>>378665172
3 combos to do a midare finisher
1 combo for DoT + 3 more combos to do another midare = 4 combos this time for your finisher

irrespective of the dot lasting 60s, it doesn't feel right to me
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I have a stupid question. Hypothetically could a PLD in 4.0 maintain enmity by just cycling RA/Goring in Shield Oath? What about outside of it with their enmity transfer?
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>>378665106
>MCH gets buffs all across the board
>hurr BRD is better
Enjoy your 2% crit casual class
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>>378664274
>BRD/PLD
>MNK/PLD
>BRD/PLD
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>>378665443
you can even now
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>>378665316
Oh, right. Shit.
I kinda only started playing DRK because I wanted a magic tank with magic shields and shit. Now they're even slashier and edgier and only get their shield(other) at 70.

DoM tank when.
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NUFFIN PERSONNEL, KIDS
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I was leveling monk just to play it in stormblood because I liked how it looked and how well it fit thematically. But those fucking changes man, I guess I'll just leave it at 54
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>>378664274
PLD

PLD

PLD
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>>378665395
>Scourge gone
>Shadowskin gone
>Low blow no longer does damage

Why did they gut my poor DRK
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>>378664274
>WAR/NIN
>WAR/NIN/WHM
>WAR/SAM/WHM

NIN has always been OK in my book, but SAM looks like WAR in that it has a solid, straightforward rotation which I'm down with. They also will hit like a fucking truck and will make up for the weakened burst of WAR for me.

WHM still looks boring and is exactly why I want to play them, but SCH is looking good too.

Will try RDM tho because I think they could be good, but mana management may be a thing with procs.
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>>378664274
>WHM
>AST
>RDM
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>>378665443
Doing it outside of oath might require the enmity skill and/or a nin.
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So what's the deal with slashing debuff guys? will war, sam and nin be good in the same party or will the fuck each other when reapplying?
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>>378665441
Well, dot lasts 60 so you can do like 3 Midare before then, doesn't seem like a big problem.
Yukikaze also is only 2 skills combo.
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ehh
think i'll just roll rdm
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>>378664274
>DRG
>DRG (Finally leveled up PLD last month)
>PLD (with SAM on the side probably)
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Are people legit angry with this? You can change to any job you want at any time in this game.
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>>378664274
WHM
WHM
AST/RDM

Fuck you Yoshi
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>>378665027
Yes, some others didn't though.
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>tfw SAM is literally going to be launch Demon hunter 2.0
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>>378665648
NIN's slashing debuff was moved to an ability you always use anyway. SAM's slashing debuff is tied to one of their Sen combos, so they will always have it up.
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>>378665616
Because it was badly designed and needed huge changes. These just weren't the actual changes it needed.
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>scholar barely changed
>still best healer

I'd feel bad for you cuckmages but youve been shit since ARR, you've only yourself to blame
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>>378665723
Useless after a month?
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>>378665616
It was just too good at being fun.
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>>378665360
I'm actually really excited for that change. Now BRD has a proper rotation and their buffs hinge on them actually doing well. It will finally filter out all the shit BRDs.
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>>378664972
>2% crit is pitiful
>15% direct hit dependent on how good the stat is
Still worse than hypercharge 5% damage for 30s (and now its all damage not just physical, so small buff to dpsing healers and your caster).

Troubadour isn't 10% phy/magic vuln, its -10% enemy physical/magic damage, a defensive buff.
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>>378664289
It is good, but it would have been a lot better with unique lyrics and not suddenly cutting to part of Locus towards the end.
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>>378665727
yeah but if they all keep reapplying the debuff won't the fuck up the timer somehow? I guess since slashing is a universal thing now they'll just keep resetting the timer which is cool, it just sounds weird.
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>>378665616
someone had to get gutted and it sure as fuck wasn't going to be warrior
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FUCKING GAIJINS BEGONE HELLFROG MEDIIIUUUUUUMMM
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>>378664274
>MNK
>MNK
>
Losing out on juggling dots and now having to move slower than the 2.5gcd on monk sounds terrible. So it's red mage, bard, or paladin for me. Either that or switch to samurai to over saturate that player base to fill the high damage niche.
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>>378665704
Maybe they preferred the aesthetic and play style of a given job more than its alternatives and didn't want to get shit on by SE for their choice?
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>>378665246
>>Lost Phleb
I will miss this, especially when fights turn into "Hit every add NOW!"
>>Lost Power Surge
That's okay
>>Doom Spike turned into a combo that works out to be the same potency for no reason
Fucking what?
>>Potency buffs across the board
Good
>>Full Thrust always procs Fang, Chaos Thrust always procs Wheeling
Also good
>>Fang lets you use Wheeling right after and vice versa, i.e. 5 hit combos
Oh, nice!
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>>378665806
>DH are useless
they are the best melee DPS still and one of the best PvP classes
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>>378665814
>DRK
>fun
>when dark arts exists
>somehow it survived the purge
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>>378665846
It will probably just remove the old debuff from the last person to apply it, and replace it with the debuff of the most recent person applying it, so basically just refreshing the duration yes.
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>>378665584
I picked Monk because I always prefer fists over swords.

Lances are cool too, and axes I guess. I have a 50 WAR just sitting in a corner and I'll learn how to tank if need be. Fell Cleaves aren't a bad alternative.
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>>378664274
WHM
WHM
Anything but fucking WHM.
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I'm new and just finished the story, trying to figure out what I want to play before the expansion hits. I leveled up as SMN but I kinda hate playing DPS and especially having long queues.

How fun is healing? I'm kind of split between AST and SCH. SCH looks fun but I hear pet management is kind of a bitch?
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>>378665246
>>Lost Phleb
>>Lost Power Surge

:(
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>>378664274
PLD/MNK
PLD/MNK
PLD/SAM
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>>378665889
>Fucking what?
Yeah they nerfed Doomspike from 150->130, then added a new action that combos after Doomspike that is 170 potency.
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>>378665919
When it came to all 3 tanks, DRK was the most fun.

>inb4 but muh fell cleave
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>people staying faithful to their jobs despite the changes except SMN mains I guess
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>blm still can't resurrect
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>>378665584
Remember what happened to AST
There's still hope
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>>378666032
No, it wasn't. It was a mess that was simple and unrewarding to play.
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>He doesn't pay people in ERP
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>>378664274
BLM PLD
AST
AST SAM
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>You will never steal his maiden with your big Eorzean barbarian muscles.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFeF4CEu4gA

>all those different Xaela tribes

I'm so happy we're getting Central Asia and not just weebland.
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>>378666072
>SMN finally get a real summon
>they quit
What the fuck do these fuckers even want?
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>>378665919
What? You mean I have to actually manage a resource and consider when I want to activate something?!
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>>378664274
BRD
MCH
RDM
>>
New crafting sets

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1062737.html
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>>378666019
yeah but sonic thrust costs 10 TP LESS!!!!
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>>378666097
Why waste a gcd on ressing when you could dps.
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>>378664274
>BLM
>BLM/WHM
>BLM/WHM/RDM
>>
Anyone who says DRK was clunky was just bad. It required just basic considerations for what your MP pool was like. Now its a non issue.
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>>378665828
>>378665072
It's called vuln in the tooltip, because that's what it is. You are less vulnerable to attacks of that kind.
Surely either of those and/or HP will be useful in Stormblood. No way Yoshi's team would remove glorious Foe's and add something completely useless.
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>>378666174
You'd think the special snowflakes with a cool book for a weapon and rad dots and epic JoJo poses and summonable little cool spirit things would ever be content?
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>>378666241
W O W E E
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>>378664274
>NIN
>NIN
>NIN (maybe SAM)
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>>378666201
DRK's MP "management" was braindead and disappointing. Prioritising DA+CnS > DP > DA+SE, wow so deep.
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>>378666174
who fucking cares at this point. SMN players have been whiny bitches since 2.0 launched and everyone still has them muted.
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>>378665395
>>378665316
>no more shadowkin
>no more scourge
>power slash still is pointless most of the time
It's not fair.
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>unsheaths katana
>BTFO's monk

Tut..Nothin personnel, mhiggers.

>sheaths katana and walks away, monk falls into the cuck shed
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>>378666072
Been sch since ARR. Feels good to be the master race
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>>378665316
>Love the animations of Low Blow and Delirium
>They made both of those shared skills and fucked up their animations
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Stop playing whm.
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>>378666313
also doom spike was 160 potency
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>>378666140
>traditional kimono doesn't include underwear
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>>378666474
So it went from 160->140 then?
I don't remember that part I glanced over it.
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>>378665867
>someone had to get gutted and it sure as fuck wasn't going to be warrior
>he doesn't know
WAR got just as much gutted as DRK
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Any good videos show casing the new animations?
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>>378666454
THIS IS YOUR FAULT
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>>378666454
No. I started as conjurer and will never drop white mage.
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>>378666268
>BLM/WHM/RDM
I wanted this, but I find it a little pointless to main two dps jobs.
BLU tank when.
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>>378666371
>guys monk is too selfish of a class, they don't have enough group play
>adds monk 2.0 in SB
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>>378666505
0////0
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>>378666538
Yes. Nerfed it in two ways, lower potency and splitting it into a combo
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>>378666542
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdfPXFGuw0
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>>378664274
SCH SCH SCH
In HW I played Noct AST a fuckton too starting in 3.3 before everyone bandwangoned on, so its kinda like a second main to me. Will continue to be in SB (unless noct set gets the shaft)
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>>378664274
>SMN
>DRK
>DRK, depends on how much I like SAM
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>>378666560
New meta. We only care about max dps now.
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>everyone saying Bards only give 2% crit
Niggas reread the descriptions of those skills, it stacks on itself up to three times, so as long as the Bard doesn't fuck up you can get a consistent 6% crit increase
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>>378666601
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>Role Skills supposed to be per role
>Seeing Caster shit among the Healer shit
Fuck they're lazy.
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Hold on a fucking second

When did they say that they removed Scourge from DRK. Isn't that gonna gut its damage?
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>>378666454
no
even though we're totally fucked
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>>378666601
Who even fucking used it?
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>ashitty bahamut egi in price of all those nerfs
YOSHIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>378666423
So no more fucking kick huh? All tanks had a stun, why did they have to change that and give paladin two?
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>>378666681
Doom Spike? I use it a lot in dungeons m8.
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>>378666661
It's ranged shit with a dot.
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>everything that made WHM unique is removed or made into role abilities
>only potency buffs and cooldown reductions

T-thanks Yoshi-P
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>>378666629
>Noct set gets the shaft

It has more shields than fucking SCH now.
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>>378665309
Hey, at least you can use shitty shoulder tackle while you use fists of wind now :^)
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>>378666789
That's not a dot.
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>>378666665
With the way that Bloodspiller and TBN work, no.
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>>378664036
60 sec cool down + Lillies - Bitch Ass Stance Dancing = Assize becoming some real nigga shit
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>>378666750
Wait, is Doom Spike the one where you poledance, or the one where you sit on the spear and it like deals damage in a frontal cone?
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CUTE
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DoW healer when?
DoM tank when?
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>>378666871
second one
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>>378666665
Check any of these media tour videos, like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ktzoXqa178
There is no Scourge. Most DoTs in the game now are either part of combos or simply got kicked out of the game. DoT management is too complex, please understand.
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>>378664274
>SMN/BLM
>SMN/BLM
>RDM/BLM
Was about to main all 3 casters but fucking Yoshi just have to cuck SMN that hard.
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>>378666147
>all those different Xaela tribes
I look forward to the Lamia. Though I would like some sort of justification as to why drowned women you couldn't save turned into them in Sastasha Hard.

The girls you pass by thank you, and I just assumed they got out after clearing the dungeon.
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>>378666871
frontal cone
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>>378665218
LB3 will matter during progession, but after that it probably wont. It'll probably be double AST.
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>>378666638
No, the extra effects of the songs can stack. Paeon's Repertoire stacks 4 times, Ballad doesn't get a stacking effect, Ballad's Pitch Perfect execution thing stacks 3 times.
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>>378666637
The irony. The first cut scene better be the meme roe samurai taking a big greasy shit on a dead Hamon Holyfist.
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>>378666889

can't wait to buy this emote for $15
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>>378666871
That's Ring of thorn.
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>>378666867
I just realized Assize will be doing full damage and healing at the same time now. That's fucking great.
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>>378666889
Would be cuter with something on the ground.
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>>378666901
>>378666871
What's the first one? I just think Circle of Scorn but I know that's a PLD ability. The one you just spam in towns.
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>>378666889
This makes up for my gutted SMN.
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>>378666976
Ring of Thorns
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DOOD
what if we took monk, lowered all his potency, removed one of his dots, and added some gimmick shit with stances
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>>378666976
ring of thorns
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>>378666665
Yup! Welcome to the cuckshed, you can sit next to monks and white mages
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>>378666954
>>378667008
>>378667028
Oh right, thanks.
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>>378665138
>We have a party buff that not only increases damage, but also lessens damage for the whole group

Don't forget healing

And tri-disaster's cooldown resets when you enter dwt
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>>378664274
PLD/WAR
PLD/WAR/DRK
PLD/WAR/DRK

I level all the tanks and just get generic gear for each, that way I only have to worry about getting a different weapon for each.
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>>378666032
MUH FELL Cleave
>>378666127
Wrong, the only type of person that would think you're right are WAR babies that like seeing a big number for their fell cleaves.
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heavyT > dot combo + botd > geiker > doom spike > sonic > dragonfire > doom spike > sonic > geiker
wow it's almost the same aoe rotation
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>>378664274
>SCH
>NIN
>NIN/SAM
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>>378666794
Well neat, I'll keep it in my pocket. I'm really not a fan of how much they nerfed AST's damage output though, so I'll stick with SCH as a main
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>>378667014
Yoshida - not a genius
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>>378667014
Don't forget the best part.
>what if we make monk go sloweeer than initial gcd?
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>>378664274
MNK
MNK
SAM(unless monk gets changed before release)
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>Getting caught up with Stormblood info
>Red Mage gauge
>Have to cast a balance between white and black magic
>A good ratio caused enhanced attacks
>A bad ratio doesn't have the enhanced attacks and makes it more difficult to fill the lacking gauge

Not sure if fun or incredibly tedious..
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>>378666961
Dev Build so somethings might be incomplete
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>>378666174
>SMN gets a real summon
>bane nerfed hard
>shadowflare nerfed
>deathflare nerfed
>ruin nerfed
>dots nerfed
>fester nerfed
a whole lot of up, and a whole lot of down.
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What is the new highest IQ class now? I'm thinking its a toss up between RDM and BLM, maybe MCH if the heat gauge compensates for the IQ loss in gauss barrel
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>Geirskogul doesn't decrease Blood of the Dragon timer anymore
>Tornado kick still consume the 3 GL stack
Fuck this
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>hypercharge 5% vuln up every 2 minutes
>troubadour 10% vuln up every 3 minutes

seems fine to me
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>>378664274
PLD
PLD
RDM
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>>378667370
lolmnk
>>
>yfw RDM will be unplayable with high ping because doublecast doesn't register in time
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5aSq3obCQI
>going from surface to underwater isn't a seamless transition, it have some stupid-looking water effect to hide an obvious loading screen to a whole new area
SO THIS IS THE POWER OF PLAYSTATION 4 PRO™
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>>378667354
Samurai is the highest IQ job and will have the most to lose in fights. The difference between a bad samurai and a good samurai will be huge.
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>>378667184
Geir is on 35 sec cooldown now.
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>>378667387
your reading comprehension is impressive.
Try reading troubadour's effect again.
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Why do people say DRK is gutted? Because they lost a combo they spammed anyway, an unthinking DoT, and two oGCDs that you hit like whack-a-mole? The new blood mechanics make them significantly more complicated as your skill priority changes depending on how much MP you have, whether you're in or out of Grit, and if Darkest Night is up or not.
>>
>make a farm party
>decide to leave one slot with all healers open, one with all melees, and one wildcard
>WHM, MNK and BLM join within 3 minutes, and nobody else joins for 10
Yeah, never again.
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>>378667370
no, you see monk had to be balanced so they wouldn't be doing so much more dps than everyone else.

meanwhile, over here with samurai...
>>
So the ideal comps are going to be:
WAR
PLD
SCH
AST
NIN/BRD
SAM/DRG
MCH
BLM/SMN
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>>378667514
>Darkest Night
That name is edgy as fuck
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>>378667423
>tfw you are now the developer joke class
Time to grind for DRG gear. I just got the Kinna claws and regret everything.
>>
What are the chances of a RDM weapon that wacks people with a staff instead of a rapier?
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>>378667624
>smn
>mch
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>>378667152
You don't need to be upset that someone disagreed with you about your favourite job.

>>378667514
>>378664819
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>>378667457
PS4 limitations
>>
>koji named it dualcast
>not doublecast
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE FF NOSTALGIA WANKING YOU BALD ASSHOLE
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>>378667624
>SCH
You meam WHM right?
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>>378667624
>BLM/SMN
>ideal
Even mncuck is better
>>
Tfw can't wait to roll RDM and cast like sanic on meth
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>mizzzteq leaving shit out of her videos again
why am i not surprised.
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>>378664274
>ARR: BRD/MNK
>HW: cucked with Minuet in HW --> DRG, didn't play enough to also gear MNK
>SB: SAM/BRD/RDM/PLD
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>>378667638
Rev up those macro ideas, boys.
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>>378667332
>>deathflare nerfed

Deathflare wasn't nerfed in the slightest. It got buffed by halving its recast from 30s down to 15s. It's damage stayed the same and it still doesn't get a damage reduction when spread amongst other targets.
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>>378667668
0
>>
>RDM limit break still not shown
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>>378667740
What happened?
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never ever
>>
Is there anywhere I can see the new AF sets on male characters instead of fucking littershits or midgets?
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>>378666136
>paying for ERP when you can get it with minimal effort
I'd rather save up for a house
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>>378666174
that "real summon" is basically just a pyrrhic victory for any serious summoners with savage raid experience under their belts
seriously, invincibilites, phase outs and awkward phase changes fucks stormblood summoners much more than before
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>>378667509
>3 minutes
>10%

really though, what did i miss
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>>378667859

>tfw will never get Honest Gillionaire title

10mil gil from Leves... Fucking what!?
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>>378667798
>implying RDM will ever limit break
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>>378667809
One notable thing out of all others is her not noting the change in Shadowflare, it's instant and on a cooldown.
Darkside now doesn't drain MP either, which is a big change if you think about it, but she clearly didn't.

Basically same shit as usual
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>>378667723
Rofl
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>>378667783
>IN BRIGHTEST DAY
>IN [DARKEST NIGHT]
>NO EVIL SHALL ESCAPE MY SIGHT
yes I know it's supposed to be blackest night
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Quick, make up something better than whatever garbage your class got in SB
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>>378664274
SCH
DRG
RDM
I went Dragoon because of the HW story and didn't regret it. Real hype for Red Mage, though.
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>>378666454
already planning on it
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>>378667712
I don't have a favorite job, I play every job. What I said doesn't change.
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>>378667918
the fact that it reduces vulnerability?
as in prevents damage?
done to the party?
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>>378664274

>ARR: BRD
>HW: MCH
>SB: No idea, might do SAM since I have been wanting it since 2.0.
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>>378667514
>cast DA on Bloodspiller instead of Soul Eater when you get +50 Blood
>significantly more complicated
Really, it's just another Carve and Spit to pay attention to. And without all numbers (max MP included), it's not possible to say how useful will The Blackest Night (not "Darkest") be as an "Dark Infuriate" instead of just a normal defensive cooldown with a surprise burst damage after the tankbuster.
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Who /PLD/ here
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>>378667918
it's vuln down, not vuln up
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What the fuck is the point of this ability?

I've been manually right-clicking my Spear draws away for 2 fucking years already Yoshi you hack.
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>>378667918
read
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>>378667783
>PREPARED TO BE BLACKED!
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>>378668080
Not having to manually unclick or make a macro for it.
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>>378668080
>>
>>378665684
Wait a fucking minute
>astral fire increases damage and costs of fire spells
>same with umbral ice and blizzard spells
>both astral fire AND umbral ice restore mp
???
>>
>>378667918
>what did i miss
a brain
>>
For so many people bitching about WHM most don't even use it as a main.
>>
>>378667457
God I hope it doesn't take too long if you don't have a SSD.
>>
So is the new meta going to be WAR/x SCH/AST SAM/NIN/BRD/MCH? Maybe DRG is good that the boost to BRD/MCH is still better than taking a SAM.

Would memeing the LB be viable with WARx2 SCH/AST SAMx3/NINcuck ?

Seems like nothing changed honestly though. What was this about a combat revamp?
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>>378668080
>not glaming yourself as yugi
>not using this move with rp macros
>>
>>378668080
Bet they didnt even know about that or the macros. At least we get that thing that lets us turn shit draws into Lord/Lady cards.
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>>378664274
WHM
WHM
WHM
I don't care that I'll be shit, I'm sticking to my healer.
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>>378667717
>Keniki instead of Kenki
I HATE IT
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POST THE ONLY CLASSES YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE TO 70

>DRG first because they're clearly the main characters of the melee dps now
>DRK next so I have a tank to use for quick q times
>SAM for infinite dee pee ess holy fuck those potencies
>RDM just because it looks cool
>AST because the other healers have been locked in the cuckshed
>>
So which DPS class looks to have the highest skill cieling? I like playing classes that has high skill high reward
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>>378668048
Not too happy but not mad either.
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>>378668080
Controller users.
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>>378667723
nice joke, really got me there for a second
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>>378668241
>What was this about a combat revamp?
SIKE
>>
As fun as the new class reworks are is the endgame.going to be the same weekly lockouts and token grind? Ate we going to get content that isn't awful like diadem?
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>>378668207
Right, why would you main a job consistantly cucked since launch?
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>>378666147
>No market board near Kugane's aetheryte
On one hand it looks nice but on the other hand it would also be dead like Ishgard.

SB's Idleshire or Revenant's Toll better not suck though.
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>>378668283

all of them
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>>378668316
ps4 limitations already fucking ruining Stormblood, great
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>>378668025
It costs the same as Dark Arts so it's always better to use it for 50 Black Blood = 380 potency instead of any other skill. The only one that comes close is DA+CnS but that's 350 potency for the cost of a DA and the MP you don't regain from CnS.
>>
Do you guys think that RDM can compete with BLM for a spot or is BLM just too OP in both single target and AoE now?
>>378668357
yes
no
>>
>>378668185
I hope they don't fuck with what we had going, but this makes me worried.
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>>378664274
>BLM
>BLM/DRK
>RDM/DRK

What can I say, I like spellblades.
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>>378668389
this desu
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>>378668283
>NIN first
>DRG
>SAM
>PLD
>RDM if it's fun
>maybe get around to leveling a healer finally
>>
>>378668364
Why would you be complaining about it though?
>>
>>378668076
thats what i meant to say, im assuming people are sperging because i typed the wrong words but the point is it that and hypercharge both seem pretty okay instead of one being better than the other
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>>378667809
Also Syphon strike has two different Dark Art augmentations, combo DA buffing it to fucking 390, guess that's not relevant for her though.
Seriously, DA a full SE combo will be at least 900 damage now. It's ridiculous.

Hopefully there's more stuff to be unveiled, doubt it though.
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>>378668297
WAR
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>>378664274
>WHM
>WHM
>WHM but I'm gonna be fuckin salty about it, fuck you Yoshi these changes do diddly shit to buff the class
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>>378663956
The Ast stuff seems really cool.
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>>378668417
Maybe ? BLM is back to being the best aoe DPS but RDM might be better in raids because of it's utility.
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Any news on the Ivalice raid?

I've been keeping myself up at night excited about new Matsuno content.
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>>378668468
they don't do the same thing, m8.
Troubadour reduces the damage your party takes
Hypercharge increases the damage the enemy takes.
Literally cannot be compared.
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>>378668468
they do different things, there's no point of comparison
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>>378668459
>why would you be complaining that one of only three healers has been consistently worse for years now?

Gee maybe its because people want to be able to play WHM at the same level of efficiency as SCH or AST
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Fuck Rhalghrs reach.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVTJV7Ds7sw
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>>378668468
They're sperging because the abilities aren't comparable. MCH increases the damage the enemy takes, BRD decreases the damage the parties takes. One isn't supposed to be better than the other
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>>378664274
BLM
BLM/MCH
RDM/BLM/MCH
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>>378667783
>>378668108
>playing 8-man content with tank/healer couple from your FC
>"ONCE YOU GO BLACK, YOU NEVER GO BACK! {The Blackest Night}"
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>>378665919
kill yourself, the other 2 were braindead, DRK actually kept me awake
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Ok so whats better?

>chain stratagem
>aoe balance

You can theoretically do aoe balance every 60 seconds, which is extremely unlikely and the first one will last 40s on everyone (and 55 one best dps) if the draw lined up with your CO+lucid dream combo.

Chain affinity can be used every 90s and increases everyones crit rate by 20%.

Fey wind and arrow are both still garbage.

Debate.
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>>378666889
That clothing better be in and not mogstation.
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>>378668648
right, whats the issue again?

>>378668715
>>378668731

there is a comparison though because youre either gonna take a bard or a mch
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>>378668771
aoe balance is still better, but they work perfectly together which continues the ast/sch meta.
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>>378668771
Strategem is the better skill because its reliable, but overall throughout a fight you'll get more from Balance with moderate luck.
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>mfw all these new sam shitters that will stand in aoe

Finally goons are free from the meme
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>>378668771
You keep both duh
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>>378668723
Bullshit. They would have to make every healer the exact same for it to be truly balanced.
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>>378666147
oooh Elephants and their sweet sweet valuable ivory, I know what I'll be poaching day one to make money.
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>>378668854
the issue is that you're comparing them.
If you're gonna compare brd/mch, at least bring up similar stats like brd's direct hit + crit buffs vs mch's vuln up.
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>>378668905
loldrg will never stop, it's just that lolsam will also be added.
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>>378667457
It's all the same zone going by the benchmark leaks. It's just a silly effect probably to mask the server snapping you under the water surface to have your state changed to "Underwater".
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>>378668409
But you will basically cast Dark Arts twice for one skill, instead of two Dark Arts to boost two skills. I'm not sure if it will be really efficient method.
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>>378668259
Well consider it anon, Thin air and recast reduction will hasten your dps chances. Thin air + presence of mind seem really op. WHM just stay the same didnt really change much but the only that bugs me a lot is that they took off stoneskin for a dumb lesser stoneskin with penalty.
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>>378664274
SCH
SCH/MCH
SAM/SCH/RDM
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Tfw WHM / MCH main

How fugged am I for stormblood?

Not sure which one to take to 70 yet, MCH might take awhile since dps ques will be ABSOLUTE hell with these two new dps jobs coming out
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>>378668108
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>>378668905
Iai moves doesn't animation lock you.
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>Guys we nerfed SCH's damage to shit, but how can we make sure we put WHM into the cuckshed for life?
Say no more
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How's WAR and DRG looking? Dunno what to think of the abilities
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>>378667717
?
It was Dualcast first
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>>378668837
TOO BAD ASSHOLE

At least it's $5 and not $18
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>>378668929
They don't need to be literally the same, but robbing WHM of the things that made it remotely unique and useful places it in such a miserable place that they might as well have not made the chances at all.
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So RDM's rotation is basically
>Jolt II> Verthunder/Veraero> Verfire/Verstone if proc, if not use Impact
Then do this until you have 85 Mana on both, do melee attacks, the finisher and repeat.
Too bad RDM sucks at AoEs.
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>>378668409
I mathed it out. Out of Grit, it is a DPS loss to use Darkest Night on cooldown even though you get a use of Bloodspiller out of it. Because Bloodspiller takes a GCD which could instead be used on your Souleater combo, which ultimately does more potency per GCD if you spend the MP on DA Syphon Strike or DA Souleater instead of Blackest Night.

However, IN Grit, it's always a DPS increase to use Blackest Night for the free Bloodspiller because of the extra potency it gets in Grit.
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>>378669137
MCH might be good but its a little iffy if it actually will be.
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How the fuck is monk dumpster tier? I think you are all just projecting here.
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>>378664274
WAR - was the only class i got to 50 in arr, but started to level other class for crossclass skills

WAR/SCH/SMN/AST - did HW story with WAR, tried to get myself into healing with SCH and loved it

PLD/AST/BRD - I want to have one of each role for flexibility, PLD looks fun, AST has the coolest healing gimmick, and nobody really plays BRD

Should be a fun expac
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>>378667014
>lower potency
>remove DoT
>press X during primal animation to save GL stacks
>randomly gain more chakra
>STACKZ AND CHAKZ

This is what happens when you listen to the OF. Fucking babies wanted more chakra and now we got more chakra, but at what cost?
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>SMNs crying
>MNKs crying
What the fuck happened? They creamed all over their monitors a week ago?
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>>378669280
Yeah and weave in the OGCD's whenever you can.
Overly simplistic IMO
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>>378665316
Maybe each cross role animation has their own visual for the class? Rampart for DRK is just shadowskin? Probably not, but I fucking wish. Also it's going to be weird if they don't change the reprisal animation for PLD or WAR.
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>>378664073
>>378663956
>IT AAAAALL RETURNS, TO NOOOOOTHIIIING
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>>378669137
Unless you're loyal to WHM like a few of us, you may be better off maining MCH until further notice.
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>>378668389
>bothering to level whm or mnk
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>>378669348
They didnt realize Yoshi was a hack. They gutted SMN potencies almost across the board and only made it viable for AoE at 70 hinging on one skill.
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>>378669348
You forgot WHM's crying
They got fucked so hard it's hilarious
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>>378669348
Nobody saw the nerfs coming
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>>378669280
At this rate every job except Samurai is shit at AoE
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>>378669340
>give us utility!!
>say no more
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>>378666794
Its had double the sch shields for a while now. This is nothing new
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>>378669489
I didn't mention them because they were crying before.
Can't blame them really.
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>>378669258
Things would still be the same for WHM since it isn't supposed to be for utility. It's purely made for healing and has been stated by Yoshi multiple times. That's what makes it unique and people just don't want to accept that.
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>>378668905
There is no animation locks on iaijitsu skills (I guess that is way you get cast bars) and SAM not only have a "jump the fuck out" skill but also a fucking 300 potency ranged attack to combo with it (100 if you use it without the jump skill). SAM is fucking perfect.
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>>378669348
they nerfed the fuck out of the 2 jobs that are already relatively cucked
mnks are trash and smns are only useful for dungeons to kill trash quick and like 1 fight every tier
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>>378669495
blm gets aoe thunder into 4 flares into foul
seems ok
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what glamour do i need to look like this?
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>>378669348
>They creamed all over their monitors a week ago?
That was back when we had full potency and DoT. And stuns.
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>have to level WHM for your retainer
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Whats up with bard players? Why are they so lazy in roullettes? Even my sch beats them on dps most of the time. Whats going on here?
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>>378664274
SCH
SCH
SCH
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>>378668837
>>378669246
it was from a previous holiday event, if you weren't playing at the time you do need to buy it now
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>>378667740
She also has mistakes in them. Should just go back to playing with Barbie instead.
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>>378664274
NIN/SCH
NIN/BRD
BRD
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>say your just gonna delete useless skills
>delete good ones so you can add them back with "new" skills
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>>378667014
>and gave them 5% raid buff, put potency back via shoulder tackle, internal release into a chakra cooldown, and get free nonstop forbidden fists
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>>378669067
You don't use Dark Arts on the actual Bloodspiller unless you're high on MP. You're not looking at Dark Arts in the right way, you need to look at it in terms of potency per MP spent.
Bloodspiller: 2400MP for 380 potency
DA+CnS: 2400MP+the amount you don't restore for 350 potency
Dark Passenger: 2400 MP for 150 potency
DA+Bloodspiller: 2400MP for 140 potency (on top of Bloodspiller)
DA+Syphon Strike: 2400 MP for 140 potency
DA+Souleater: 2400 MP for 140 potency

You can probably see the pattern here.

>>378669295
Then post your maths, because that sounds wrong. More DPS in the short term means nothing when you're not maximising how much damage you get for each point of MP.
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>>378669608
>mnks are trash
Wew and they were thrashing everyone a week ago
Karma's a bitch ain't it?
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>>378669663
it's difficult to maximize BRD DPS
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>Omega -Delta Turn 4 boss should be as appealing from aesthetic standpoint to players as Bahamut Prime was, particularly to people doing it on Savage difficulty

Oh baby
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>>378669691
>le falseflag man
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>>378669746
Neat
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>>378669246
Yeah but that's male only, the female variant looks like crap.
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Double-AST the new healer meta now right?
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>curious about FF14 since I need a new mmorpg to play
>want to do the free trial
>apparently I already made an account to do a free trial in the past, so I can't try it out on PC
I remember installing the trial on PS4 and making an account, but I never got around to actually playing it. If I buy the game, do I automatically have to pay monthly, or is it free up to a certain point?
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>>378669348
New MNK skill literally goes against MNK main feature.
>Riddle of Fire
Also
>Relies on RNG on melee class
that shit should be on ranged only.
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>>378669746
Fucking finally.
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>>378669746
OwO?
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>all these retards crying about their classes being shit when it only matters for the world first raid groups which only constitutes 1%of all players
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>>378669232
DRG looks fine, just more of the same really.
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>>378669849
sch still has a spot thanks to strategem
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>>378669814
calling it now, it's Shinryu
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>>378669790
And with:
>Bloodspiller: 2400MP for 380 potency
I mean the Bloodspillers you get for spending MP on Blackest Night. You also get "free" Bloodspillers that cost no MP by building up Black Blood through attacks and Blood Price.
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New meta:

WAR
PLD/DRK (prog/farm)

SCH
AST

SAM
NIN
BRD/MCH (prog/farm)
??? DRG/RDM/MCH/BRD ???

Oh wait, I thought I said new meta?
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>>378669746
Much more useful to newer players than the shitty old region map of "Here's some pretty rectangular icons with vectored paths between them!".
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is game fun? How is single player content

Can I wield katana and unleash yamato tamashi?
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>>378669746
>290 PLD
>41k health
Interdasting
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>>378669870
30 days included with the base game.
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Okay AST shields need to be seriously nerfed 130% shield was fine, these shield buffs are pretty unecessary and overpowered considering their damage is on par with sch now, if not better.

Also, why in the f is the passive heal potency bonus on the sects even necessary. They already grossly overpower scholar in healing and fuck up whm in regens so whats the point of powering it up further?
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You have enough MP for 1 Dark Arts.

Hard Slash (150) + Syphon Strike (250) + DA Souleater (420) = 820 / 3 = 273 potency per GCD
Hard Slash (150) + Syphon Strike (250) + Souleater (280) + Bloodspiller (380) = 1060 / 4 = 265 potency per GCD


You have enough MP for 2 Dark Arts.

Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) = 960 / 3 = 320 potency per GCD
Hard Slash (150) + Syphon Strike (250) + DA Souleater (420) + Bloodspiller (380) = 1200 / 4 = 300 potency per GCD


You have enough MP for 3 Dark Arts.
Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) + Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike
(390) = 1500 / 5 = 300 potency per GCD

Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) + Bloodspiller (380) = 1340 / 4 = 335 potency per GCD

Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) + Bloodspiller (380) + Hard Slash + Syphon Strike = 1740 / 6 = 290 potency per GCD

You have enough MP for 4 Dark Arts.

Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) + Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike
(390) + DA Souleater (420) = 1920 / 6 = 320 potency per GCD

Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) + DA Souleater (420) + Bloodspiller (380) + Hard Slash (150) + DA Syphon Strike (390) = 1880 / 6 = 313 potency per GCD
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>>378669870
you get a free month, but it sets it up to pay the sub automatically once the month is up so just be aware of that
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What are the Role skills everyone will be equipping.
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Alright but what the fuck does "Blood Weapon effects" mean?
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>>378666301
>You are less vulnerable to attacks of that kind.
Yes and its a defensive buff so its useless, I don't care about wording semantics.
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>>378670007
Meant for >>378669790
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>>378669746
So open world or just nicer map?
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>>378669973
In two weeks you sure can.
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how a re mnks trash now? they get that raid wide party buff every 90s
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>>378669981
Keep in mind they're using the shitty freebie 290 gear you're given in a box at 70.
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>>378670070
nicer map

looks like cities might be reunified, though
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>>378669973
Game sucks shit get out while you can.
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>>378670070
Just nicer map.
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>Othard, a continent only has 5 zones, one being a city state and another being a housing area
>The Yanixa region or the Azim Steppe doesn't get the 1.0/ARR treatment with different parts, while Gyr Abania got at least 3? 4?
Sad!
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Why is Samurai a "high IQ" class?
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>>378667717
Dualcast is still old and it sound better.
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>>378668771
the more damage you deal and the more critical rating you have, the more important crits are.

at the start of stormblood AST/AST will probably be king, but after that its gonna be AST/SCH

also Fey Wind and Arrow are not bad at all, 5% haste is a ton. its just that balance is OP
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>>378669849
Ast/sch because of the sch crit skill.

Ast is definetely the strongest healer though, its way overbuffed rn
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>>378670196
hard rotation
thank god, then bad players will leave my class alone
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>they didn't call the study ability Libra

sch's got cucked in every way
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>>378670186
maybe the zones are fucking gigantic
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>>378670070
Open world? You have a loading screen just to enter swim mode and diving!
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>>378670021
>it sets it up to pay the sub automatically once the month is up so just be aware of that
Any way to cancel it in case I don't like the game? I'm a wageslave and I'm trying to choose between this, or WoW.
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>>378670058
>6 GCDs
Short term is irrelevant. Drag that out to a minute or two and you'll regret not being efficient with your MP. When you're out of MP from gaining ~140 potency on Syphon/SE, other DRKs will have another DA or 2 able to be used in the next combo.
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>>378670295
Is this for real?
>>
>cuckblood

LOL
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>>378670339
Yeah, the moment you do, go to mog,station, account, and cancel sub.
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>>378664492
>no sam
Week 2 clear shitter detected
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>>378670339
no, anon, they force you to pay $15 a month until the sun burns out as soon as you buy the game
>>
Any skill sources besides MTQ Shitteq?
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>>378670006
>their damage is on par with sch now, if not better.
AST damage is the lowest of all three healers by a fair margin.
AST is still OP though.
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>>378669630
MNK actually has MORE stuns than before
MNK gets a fucking stun that stuns unstunnable targets
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>>378667272
>makes it more difficult to fill the lacking gauge
Not really, you just cast Jolt and then Verthunder or Veraero, depending on which mana is lower.
Not balancing your manas will kill your DPS, for sure, but balancing them out isn't difficult.
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>>378670196
They will probably bring a shit ton of damage if played right in fights and if they fuck up and die (which will most likely happen with the majority of samurai players) you lose out on that dps. They are the "carry" job.
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>>378670108
>5% damage buff
vs
>Trick Attack and slash down /SAM big dick dps and slash down/DRG BL and piercing down
Gee I wonder which class should I choose.
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Midare Setsugekka = 720 potency
Hissatsu Kaiten= Increase next weaponskill potency by 150%
Slashing debuff + 10%
Self dmg buff 15%
Hissatsu Guren is an OGcd. Build 70 kenki.
Hissatsu Kaiten -> Midare Setsugekka + Hissatsu Guren = ~3000 potency in one GCD+OGCD
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>>378670223
I still dislike healing alongside another AST because the cards overwrite each other. It doesn't matter much in casual content but it still triggers me.
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>>378670362
Yes, testers complained about it at the event.
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>>378670196
The rotation isn't as simplistic but it doesn't have positionals at least.
>>378670279
I hope they are, but 2 sanctuaries in a single zone makes me doubt it.
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>>378664274
>>your ARR main(s)

SCH

>>your HW main(s)

SCH and BLM

>>your SB main(s)

SCH, BLM, and RDM
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>>378670361
Are you stupid? The MP cost is the exact same in each example and the damage is always higher without Bloodspiller. It doesn't matter how much MP you have stocked up.
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>>378669973
Party content works on matchmaking, so you can be an asocial dork if you want because the game won't punish you for it.
You get your katana in two weeks, and you just need to get level 50 in any other class and beat the first "final" boss (Ultima Weapon) in the game to unlock it.
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>>378670575
>slash down mattering when war STILL has it in its rotation
stop acting like slash down is some important thing
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>umbral hearts nullify fire IV mp costs
>can now cast a fuck-ton of fire IVs every rotation
Maining YoshiP's pet class is so good

>desperately trying to ignore the potency reduced by 20
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>>378670632
the land mount speed buff makes me think they're going to be a lot bigger than even the HW zones
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>>378670481
With the changes to CC abilities, I really do hope stuns, interrupts, tethers, and knock backs etc. play a bigger part in fights than just dodge mechanics and dps.
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>>378670575
>NIN
>slash down
uh
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>>378667624
>SAM OR DRG
DRG is mandatory to buff up SAM.
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>>378670632
It does have positional.
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>>378670748
As long as they're not boring af like the HW zones then I'm fine with that.
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>>378669973
>is game fun?
meh
>How is single player content
there is none. Play FFXI for that
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>>378670252
Might have to kick my static's WHM then since he was adamant he wasn't going to be flexible about changing healing role as necessary for progression.
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GUYS GUYS
Since healers are lazy and don't want to stance dance to DPS, let's make cleric stance to them passively and let their dmg be based off MND now
Btw also give WHM only 1 new dmg ability in SB cause fuck them lmao
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>>378670584

>mfw samfags die casting it because they should have moved for a mechanic
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>>378670748
I'm thinking that the land mount speed buff is to give players a reason to use ground mounts rather than flying.
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>>378670614
if you coordinate the balances you can probably reach like 80% balance uptime, which is a retarded amount for a 10% damage up buff

that throws SCH in the garbage can really hard
>>
>can't use steel cyclone/decimate for fun outside of battle
Literally unplayable
>>
>Barbie dolled up, Sice hair c@ WHM being incredibly lazy in PotD
What a shock.
>>
>>378670362
See >>378667457
Apparently this is just an animation because of wonky engine, based on what >>378669060 said.
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>>378670904
All of them only got one new damage ability though except AST with 3, counting the Lord card.
>>
Can't wait for the inevitable SAM nerfs a week after raids open up. Then we'll see whose cucked
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>>378670575
the damage buff is still better than battle lit at least
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>>378669746
So did they join the halves of the older cities?
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>>378670728
You can cast 3 Fire IVs with 3 Umbral Hearts with no MP cost.
Casting a Fire spell uses an Umbral Heart.
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>>378671001
You can already have 2 asts coordinate their balances, but sch is still preferred in the 2nd slot because limit break & fairy.
Now on top of those 2 things, sch also gets a 20% crit buff to the entire party.
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>Nearly every skill that makes WHM worth using can now be used by SCH and AST
>none of the new abilities are worth shit

They could've actually just removed WHM from the game and I'd still be less upset
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>>378671151
t. mnk/smn main
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>>378664274
>ARR
Started as Monk 2.4 switched to WAR
>HW
WAR
>SB
SAM for dps
WAR for tanking
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I absolutely fucking loathe almost every change done to War. "Hurpdurp six Fell Cleaves!" Who the fuck cares when every bit of sustainability just got gutted? Or when openings got made clunky as fuck? Or when three of our new skills were made next to fucking useless?

I didn't sign up for War in 1.0 to be a fucking DPS that got hit now and then. I signed up to be a fucking Tank. If I wanted to be a DPS that got hit now and then I'd play fucking Drg.

Been a War for years, through the good and the bad, and these are the changes that are seriously making me consider abandoning the job as sad as that fucking makes me.
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>>378671027
They should do the same shit for Aetherflow and Mudras then. Remove all "Hey wait 23-30s plz for my CDs to line up before we pull!" situations in raiding.
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>>378664274
>SCH
>AST
>AST
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I need fucking help here.
Do I main PLD with the fear of getting replaced by a DRK MT or do I main WAR with the fear of getting replaced by a DRK OT.
My main right now is WAR and I'm not the slightest bit happy about the changes and new skills.

Help
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>>378671239
>I didn't sign up for War in 1.0 to be a fucking DPS that got hit now and then. I signed up to be a fucking Tank.
You're the only one then.
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>>378670778
Does sam have pierce moves?
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>>378670481
I meant in regards to removing the one from Steel Peak and moving it around.
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There has been so focused on Doma after it was shown, while kinda throwing Ala Mhigo to the side. Have we even seen the major Ala Mhigo city yet...?
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SAM looks hard to play
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>>378671268
>he's such a baby that he can't wait 20s for a 10% damage boost on his opener
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>>378671384
i thought they just had camps and lived in caves
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>>378671239
All jobs in this game are measured only by how much dps they can do. Tanks are just dps with cooldowns.
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>>378671286
DRK won't be replacing anyone
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>>378671001
Yes, but you rarely coordinate cards in casual content, and no other healer pairing requires that sort of coordination. It just feels clunky.

I don't think it dumpsters SCH though. Not in the latter half of 3.x anyway, and in 4.0 SCHs are bringing in party-wide crit buffs, and crits will help reduce cd on Lightspeed.
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>>378664580
Brother
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>>378671384
Rhalgr's Reach is probably going to be their main city
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>>378671384
>5 mins in NA fanfest about Ala Mhigo
>Every other exposure has been about weebland
Epique
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>>378664215
I already know what it's going to be, at least in my static.
SAM, SAM, BRD, SMN.
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>>378671185
Yep, so either you have the spell speed to pull off three fire IVs at the start of every rotation without triplecast for seven fire IVs, or you do the usual fire IV x2 - fire three times instead of twice for six fire IVs every rotation. I saw that AF/UI duration is now 13sec so that might make it easier too.
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>>378671359
I guess Battle Litany doesn't exist anymore.
Retard.
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>>378671384
Doma was never shown either unless that abandoned city in Yanxia was supposed to be it.
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>4.1 Super Savage challenge fight may not even be an Omega fight but rather a new version of an older raid
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>>378670719
>implying this doesnt open up the possibility of DRK OT with more actual utility
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>>378670676
Because on the Bloodspiller half you wasted MP on every Syphon/SE instead of conserving it for Bloodspiller and only using it on other skills when you're going to cap on MP. If you can't afford Blackest Night every 15s you're doing it wrong. Hard Slash > DA+Syphon > DA+SE averages 320 potency per GCD, Bloodspiller is a 380 potency GCD. That is objectively an increase, your timespan is too short and you're not properly comparing maximising DA+Syphon/SE vs maximising Bloodspiller.
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>>378671205
SCH is not helping in the limit break at all, since that one builds by itself in some raids (A12S) and the delay is not really a concern in the other ones (A11S)

the thing keeping SCH in the meta is its damage (getting cut) and the fairy, which is not really mandatory (easily replaceable at this point)
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>>378671415
Seems more like a turbo hybrid of the melee DPS. I wouldn't say hard, just situational.
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>>378671286
You main whatever the fuck you want you little pussy
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>>378671592
>SMN over BLM
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>>378671415

Looks easy as heck to me. Opener might be funky but every class has a piano opener.
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>>378671239
>Who the fuck cares when every bit of sustainability just got gutted?
What the fuck are you talking about? Sustainability? All your defensive skills are fucking identical except now you get to also replace shitty Foresight with excellent Rampart.
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>>378671415
>Hard to play
>3 combos to max out sen
>Dump kenki on the 720 potency attack
>Rinse repeat
>Toss in big dick ogcds every now and then
>Have actual abilities to keep DPS while hopping out and in during AoEs
How is it hard?
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I won.
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>>378671642
>Titan Super Savage
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>>378671384

Ala Mhigo is the city itself though. Gyr Albania is the zone. And it'll probably be Rhalgr's Reach. They said the storyline across the patches would involve liberating Ala Mhigo so it can't be available at expac launch.
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>>378671415
All your skill comes from managing sword mana
Everything else is railroaded so hard it's like SAM is melee dps for retards
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>grind potd cause people say its good exp
>hours of boring unreletening tedium later
>die to random trap or meme mechanic from mob
>get 2 levels

How can people stomach this shit?
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Post SAM rotation
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so did minfilia keep that staff up her ass, where the hell did she pull it out from
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>>378671518
We'll be staying in our guarenteed spot by doing the most DPS.
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>>378671384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFeF4CEu4gA&t=308s

3:07

I don't think we'll go IN the city until halfway the exp.
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>>378671384
Ala Mhigo will be the post-4.0 story. They might be toying with the idea of unlocking the city only towards the end of 4.x. We do visit the surrounding areas (Gyr Abania) though.

>>378671613
Everything shown recently was Doma. The Ruby Sea, the steppes, Yanxia, lots of Doman shit was shown. Vast majority of the theme music video was Doma.
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>>378671415
>hard to play
>literally brainless upkeep on all the buffs
>60 second DoT
The only hard part about SAM seems to be figuring out the optimal way to use Kenki.
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>>378671791
Don't worry, Drg is also going back to 2.0 level rotation too.
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>>378671902
the only spots that are probably guaranteed are NIN and AST. Everything else is fluid
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>>378671384
You can see Ala Mhigo outside some Gyr Abania zone. Reminds me of Tavnazia tbqh
Don't expect the story to liberate it and Doma so soon. The Dragonsong War took 3 patches to end you know.
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>>378671560
to be fair getting two healers of the same job in casual content is always clunky

i also dont think its useful to think about min-maxing in this situation
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>>378671802
Fake news unless you're above lvl50, in which case you should be doing dungeons if you have rest exp with food buff + fc/squadron buff.
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>>378671931
>Everything shown recently was Doma. The Ruby Sea, the steppes, Yanxia, lots of Doman shit was shown. Vast majority of the theme music video was Doma.
That's OTHARD. Doma is Yanxia's city-state, the not-China region.
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>RDM's Vercure heals for around 6-7k out of it's 35k ish HP
It's pretty neat for a shitty DF party situation I guess.
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>>378671942
Seems like they will mostly be spent on kaiten anyway.
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>>378671415
I can see some basic rotations for the GCD stuff, like combo > DoT iaijitsu > combo > combo > combo > single target iaijitsu, and Aoe > Aoe > Aoe > Aoe iaijitsu.
The oGCD part will take a while to figure out because of the kenki costs, though. I can see some very neat combos, like Yaten > Enbi > Gyoten when avoiding AoEs (500 potency in one GCD and two oGCDs with a 10 kenki requirement). SAM is hype as fuck.
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I don't know what to make of the DRG changes.

Nidhogg rage mode looked exciting at first but it is just a potency boost with no depth to it. Keeping up BOTD and getting as many geriskoguls out while juggling the buff is what made it fun for me.

I'm fine with them making botd easier to maintain by allowing you to use both F&C and WT back to back, but I'll really miss the gameplay of geriskogul reducing botd's duration and riding that edge.

That said, tetherbuddy is a fun but simple mechanic.
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>>378670460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7R7QM5X18
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Would this be a good time to try and get into this game?
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Anyone have a good idea what the tank role actions needed will be? Speculation also welcomed.
>provoke
>reprisal(?)
>Rampart
>?
>?
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>>378672142
>use dot iai first without shifu damage buff
Epic.
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Guys, I need to know what was the change on the fairy?
Did they nerfed the fairy to death on top of Bane(which they fucking killed)?
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These MCH changes.
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>2 DRGs tether each other
Is this gay?
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>>378672115
Pretty sure Doma is the city you see in the Benchmark.
There's the symbol of Doma on the front door so that's what I assume at least.
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New thread when
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>>378672060
WHM/WHM is basically just healing together. SCHs can't stack their shields but they can alternate between using their aether stacks (double Indomitability, for example). AST's whole shtick is cards and they don't play together at all unless vocally coordinated. Don't know. Just feels shittier to me.

>>378672134
>Cast Vercure
>Insta-cast Verraise
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So since we got Samurai as dps, will Shogun be tank?
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>MNK main because it was the only class I found fun

Someone fucking kill me. I hope the new classes are fun because I just don't like anything else.
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>>378672348
>>378672124
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>>378671560
>WHM relies on Heal crits for their gimmick
>SCH's new Crit utility is a mob debuff
Well so much for more Job synergy YoshiP.
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>>378671942

For bosses its like:

Guren>Shinten>everything else. Kaiten before Iaijutsus. It's really basic.
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>>378670584
It seems like the tooltip for Kaiten is incorrect, and it's only a 50% boost instead of 150%.

Japanese Tool tip apparently says 効果時間中に実行する1回のウェポンスキルの威力を1.5倍にする。
Which is roughly, "makes the power of the next weapon skill 150%".
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>>378671384
Ala Mhigo will be the raid setting. Omega and Shinryu landed nearby.
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>>378672298
>>378671579
You have to go back Jamal.
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>>378672142
Every single weaponskill generates Kenki at lvl 70.
It's literally a no brainer.
>make sure you have enough Kenki for when Guren comes out of CD
>make sure you have enough Kenki for Kaiten every single time you do 3 Sen Iaijutsu you will anyway
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>>378672557
As expected.
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>>378672295
Depends on tank and if mting or oting.
MT would be Provoke, Reprisal, Lowblow, Awareness/Rampart, where as OT is probably just provoke/lowblow/silence/shirk/whatever
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>>378671648
Except by using Bloodspiller you're extending the combo by 1 GCD which could instead be put back into the combo. It makes no difference when you use your MP because it's always going to be a net loss to use it on Blackest Night instead of boosting SE/SS. There's never a time where Blackest Night somehow costs less MP. If you're literally overflowing with more MP than you can spend then yeah, go for it. And of course you still use the Bloodspillers you build up naturally.
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>>378672014
>touring the world with Alphinaud, Estinien and Not Shiva
The best thing that came from HW. I hope the writing is as good and you get that tier of chemistry again. I don't want a walking band of anime tropes and I'd be very happy with a party that acknowledges your power level but doesn't praise your e-dick every second.
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>>378672503
Well yeah.
But that's still the hardest part of the job, even if that too is simple.
The combo rotations is quite literally braindead.
You literally can't drop the buffs and debuffs outside of scenarios where you're unable to attack.
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>>378664274
>BLM
>BLM AST
>BLM AST PLD
That's the intended route. I'll also take up SAM for melee DPS funsies
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>>378672298
What if you use Meikyo pre-pull to get all your buffs plus one Sen for the dot?
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>>378672707
>Except by using Bloodspiller you're extending the combo by 1 GCD which could instead be put back into the combo
That's the entire point. You extend the combo with a skill that's higher than the average potency, which is a DPS increase.
>There's never a time where Blackest Night somehow costs less MP
It doesn't need to. 2400 MP for 380 potency vs 2400 MP for 140 potency.
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>>378671721
>no bloodbath
If you can't understand how bloodbath was an amazing CD for WAR to have you should just stop responding
WAR and DRK were gutted just so all tanks could be relevant for SB
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>>378672627
To be fair, 1080 free potency for 20 Kenki on a fairly short timer would've been fucking retarded.
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>>378671268
Enjoy you 7 minute pull thanks to SCH.
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>>378672954
You only get one buff that way.
The combo finishers don't grant buffs, only Sen.
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>>378673119
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>>378673006
Bloodbath was shit in singletarget. And being able to use multiple Decimates makes up for the healing loss in aoe with a lot more DPS.
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>>378673019
But 1080 is exactly what it's going to be.
720*1.5
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>>378673042
7 minute pull?
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>>378673143
>Bloodbath was shit in singletarget
you are so wrong it hurts
bloodbath+berserk+main= self sustain god
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>>378673237
That's "only" 360 "free" potency though. It's still a shitload, but not nearly as dumb.
I expect some minor potency nerfs on SAM by 4.1 though at this rate.
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