Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood

The absolute state of MNK.

>Here lies MNK, he never scored

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>WHM MAINS

Just canceled my pre-order
t. WHM

How does MCH look?

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Give me back my DoTs you goddamn bastards.

>>378655779
>>378655790
>Was going to play a MNK once I finished downloading
What happened to it?

>>378655860
I'm seriously debating doing the same, honestly.

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>tfw you main NIN and are planning to main SAM too

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Seriously though, I hope they tweak MNK some before release. I like to hop on MNK every now and then.

>WAR wins 3 expansions in a row
Has there ever been an MMO class this well designed?

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Whats the potency on Stone IV?

Maybe it + Aero II and Aero III will continue to keep WHM damage near SCH? Now that SCH only really lost damage

>>378655689
best cat, far better than her sister.

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Guys, if you're not an ERPer or a crafting autist, this game simply isn't meant for you. Face it, it's a very casual themepark mmo which caters to normiest of normies. Just admit this to yourself and stop larping, the game will not change.

>Gut WHM and let AST and SCH feast on the corpse
>It's ok you have RNG procs that mildly reduce cooldowns!
Fuck you Yoshi

>>378656041
260

Will SB have a meme fight with music as good as brute justice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLCWCPyxByg

>DRK had its entire rotation gutted, hope you liked raiding coil as PLD because this is your class now.
>WHM problems not addressed at all, literally gave divine seal away and got nothing in return.
>MNK cucked completely to make people play SAM.
>SMN looked hype as fuck in the trailer just to hide the fact Fester fucking sucks now and your AoE capacity is 100% fucked.

The last two can probably get adjusted by numbers but they're not going to patch Delirium/Scourge back in or patch DPS utility into WHM.

Frankly the +Crit% skill on SCH should've been a WHM one, as it is, the class is going to be benched the entire expansion ala Heavensward PLD unless they make raids hit obscenely hard to Gordias levels.

>3.0
>"hmm mnk has high personal damage but party wide damage is more beneficial in fights. they have no place in a good composition"
>4.0
>sam will have so much dps that they will be buffed solely by other jobs for their big dick dps

>DRKs spend an entire expansion laughing at PLDs for being too simple and having shitty DPS
>PLD gets huge DPS buffs and becomes far more complex while DRK gets simplified

You preteen edgelord faggots are getting exactly what you deserve

>>378655695
Why isn't summoner happy? They get to summon Bahamut?

Even tooltip errors or non-final values can't account for WHM's shittiness. Their only hope is to get a total rebirth in a later patch.

Giving them the highest personal DPS means fucking NOTHING when AST is throwing out party Balances, and SCH gets a better version of fucking Battle Litany. Even their status as the best "pure healer" is questionable due to their new mechanics being 100% RNG reliant and even then, still weak as fuck. Compared to the Myriad tools and utility SCH and AST are getting, they will probably end up outhealing WHM too.

MNK got it pretty bad, but it's nothing compared to the utter raping that WHM got.

>>378655916
Potency nerfs everywhere for no reason and some of the 60+ skills are kinda shitty.

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Why did they have to remove everyone's DoTs?

>Fracture
>Scourge
>Phlebotomize
>Mutilate
>Touch of Death
>Lead Shot
>Bio
>Aero

They didn't make your rotations particularly difficult or anything, for the most part you just reapplied them in between combos when they ran out. Why get rid of them?

>>378656248
They also get that resets enkindle or something of that sort

>MNK now has more burst with riddle of fire + brotherhood which from the chakra from people and your own trait giving chakra allows for more forbidden chakra

Where's the nerf? They just gave MNK what they lacked, burst and utility.

>>378656248
They finally give us Bahamut, but at the cost of everything else good we had.

>>378656041
>not that SCH only really lost damage
I mean for aoe it is abysmal but for single target it actually went up didn't it?

Stone IV is 260
Broil II is 230 (Ruin upgrades into Broil which upgrades into Broil II)

WHM gets Aero II and Aero III
SCH gets Miasma, Bio II and Shadowflare. Of course WHM kicks the shit out of SCH now in terms of aoe but in single target they're rather similar on top of white mage providing absolutely ZERO party utility, no damage buffs AND they lost stoneskin and replaced it with bad stoneskin.

Meanwhile SCH gets lmao +20% more likely to inflict crits on top of their already top tier shields and auto pilot fairy

>>378656216

Which role is this?

>>378656323
You'd be surprise how stupid average players in this game are.

>>378656323
DoTs that aren't part of a combo are too confusing for this playerbase.

>>378656323
am i the only one who likes this change

>>378656406
Carpenter.

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>>378655984
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>378656334
>>378656248
In exchange for Bahamut we got hit with the nerf bat something fierce

>>378656323
Other shit to use. As a NIN going from 2 dots to 1 with debuff tied to it is fucking nice.
Also skill pruning for console plebs using controllers.

>>378656268
Oh hey look, its every single male Highlander player.
They seriously need more face options.

>>378656260
The Battle Litany SCH skill should've been a WHM one, SCH is solid as it is, it doesn't need more fucking buffs.

>>378656379
>Forgetting that Riddle of Fire slows your GCD

>>378656432
everything's too confusing for this fucking playerbase.

where are the best videos to watch?

>>378656323
Those skills are just filler and you know it.

>>378656323
It was boring.
Shadow fang being the worst.

>>378656406
>>378656216
>>378656268
>>378656315
>>378656365

These are the DoH AF3s it seems

>>378656523
Everything is fucking filler.

Why not just give everyone 3 "do damage" buttons then?

>>378656323
Fuck DoTs. They're archaic as fuck.

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Just played Black Desert after a friend gifted it to me. What the fuck? It's atrociously awful. I never get why people hype Korean games when they're literally all fucking shit.

>>378656475
Im going to enjoy my queue while leveling.
Time to listen to champloo ost

How much of the screaming in these threads about jobs being ruined can I chalk up to /v/ overreacting like it always does? 70%?

>>378656592
they just did that for dark knight

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>>378656323

For the same reason that cooldowns were nerfed: to raise the skill floor.

Gotta close the gap between shitters and good players.

>>378656490
Only for the 20s duration it is on in exchange for 20% damage, which will go along with GL3's and Fist of Fire.

Pretty much it just means GL3 lost it's speed but made up for it in burst.

What's the problem here?

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I want to be a samurai!

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>>378656592
They did

see pvp changes

>>378656379
Dragon Kick loses the INT reduction.
Potency nerf on every rotational weaponskill. Demolish loses a tick (although that's not TOO big of an issue since Demolish usually got clipped anyway).
Riddle of Fire slows them down when MNK is supposed to be the goesfast class.

>>378656484
after what they just did to scholars damage yes they did need buffs.

>>378656540
3? Are you saying that they have AF1 and 2?

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>>378655695
YEAH WHERE MY PAL BOIS AT

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>>378656248
>Bane annihilated
>Ruin III nerfed
>Shadowflare arguably nerfed
>Fester nerfed (this is likely an unfinished potency change but it's all we have right now)
>No blizzard II
>Tri-Bind STILL EXISTS
>TRI-Disaster inflicts TWO effects
>Ruin IV is pure, uninfluenceable RNG

>>378656654
Everything except for the WHM screaming, which is completely justified.

>>378656663
>What's the problem here
Mediocre changes when everybody else either already had a guaranteed spot or got better changes.

>>378655893

Fucking weird with the heat management being a new minigame. The damage output is unknown for now.

Where the fuck are you cunts getting all this stuff from? Glad to hear WAR remains flawless, though.

>>378656603
I just played final fantasy XIV for an hour in the starting zone, what the fuck? It's atrociously awful.

See how stupid you sound?

>>378656690
Yes, they have class specific sets. AF1 is the set that each DoH guildmaster wears, and AF2s were the Red Scrip sets.

>>378656764
leeks like always

>>378656764
https://www.youtube.com/user/MTQcapture/videos

>>378656764
gamerescape

>>378656723
>Tri-Bind STILL EXISTS
Why have they not made this a pvp ability only yet, its all I have ever used it for.

>>378656663
You gain 15% from GL3 and lose that 15% from the 30% slow from riddle of fire, from there you're at a -15% speed detriment and now you're forced to make a decision between reapplying your buffs or going for the more damaging skills at the risk of losing your buffs/debuffs on the target.

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>>378656663
Literally worse SAM, offer no raid utility except meager 5% damage increase while relies on heavily RNG to spam out chakra.

>>378656654
>blm able to quad flare
>Hexflare with party help and ether
>Flare buffeed
>10-14 fire 4 openers

Feels good man

>>378656520
mr happy does it best

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I like HW's a lot more than these.

>>378656663
Moving so slow that you go above the 2.5gcd would make the job feel clunky for a small dps gain.

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This one ain't bad.

>>378656892
Considering red mage also gets a tribind... i expect it to be useful somewhere.>>378656978

>>378656778
Did I say I played an hour? No, I played about 8 so far, and regardless, it doesn't take a genius to get a feel for a game early. There's like no real content, it's just a grind-laden sandbox with nothing to do.

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>>378656663
>Monk is -the- go fast job
>gets an ability that says fuck you go super slow
>you have to use this ability to be optimal with your damage
>what's the problem here?

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How jealous are you?

>>378656978
Eh, both sets are kinda shit compared to the originals.

>>378656937
>quad flare
It's penta flare with the crossrole mana ability

>they actually gave monk "go slow" move

Fucking hilarious.

>>378656978
They are all too samey and mostly look good on females unless you like your men wearing dresses.

>>378656934

I've found my new outfit.

Please be dyable.

>>378657082
>Could've got Hundred Fists
I would even be happy if they give GL4 but no.

It feels like they intend for MNK to make up the potency losses with more frequent use of Forbidden Chakra, but that really just makes their DPS super-reliant on RNG. And even if Riddle of Fire is a DPS increase, having it slow you down is going to feel awful. If they needed it to have a drawback like Blood for Blood I would have preferred movement speed reduction since then there would maybe be some thought about when to activate it.

>>378656393
Using some napkin math, just based off WHM and SCH's two dots and turret spell, WHM has more damage to show for. But then SCH has Energy Drain, Energy Drain procing faster Aetherflow for even more dps, and Shadowflare, versus WHM's Assize. I think SCH ultimately comes out on top

>>378657108
Hope you enjoy going into combat as a LTW.

>>378656978
I swear they are purposely making all the AFs look bland as fuck.

>>378657046
pic related.

so I was at work for the last 7 hours. What did I miss?

>>378657063
That relies on manatick but I see your point

I mean shit, blizz 4, fire 3 flare, flare is going to become the AoE rotation now considering the nerf to fire 2

Post new rotations.

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Looks like a hobo.

>>378655994

>never played 2.0 warrior before the major changes

>>378656603
Leveling in Black Desert is a nightmare. You just grind in [Designated Grinding Zone] for 5 levels at a time all the while using the exact same combo on everything because classes only have 2 viable combos to ever use. Then you get a new set of gear every 5 levels, but it looks no different than previous gear and has no interesting stats. All the while you spend your skill points upgrading the same shit you've been doing the whole time until you get to max level™. Then you have to grind at [New Designated Grinding Zone] in between taking part in shitty side activities like breeding horses with a shitty gamble system or PvPing in huge fights that just come down to whoever AoEs better. Black Desert is pretty, and the combat is flashy, but the game lacks any kind of lasting substance which is why it was a flash in the pan. Also, the quite obviously pay to win cash shop does it no favors.

>>378657187

Fuck me.

>>378657046
>GPU: 13°C

wut

Going from 60-70 as SMN will be utter suffering

>You start out cucked out of Bio 1, contagion and raging strikes, so the Heavensward rotation is dead the second you put in the SB disk. Your Fester is kill and your Bane is nerfed.

>Level 62 will only introduce random Ruin IV procs at 15% chance. Ruin III got nerfed so this will be your only chance to get back your lost DEEPS

>Level 64 will just give you a 5% party wide damage buff every minute and a half, so long as they're close to you.

>Level 66 gives you Bio and Miasma again, only with the same damage and cast time.

>Level 68 may as well just spit in your face as it just gives you a trait buff for enkindle. Where your 15% Ruin Proc now shortens your Enkindle recast time by 10 seconds every time it's used (but Rouse is kill so it's damage isn't as important.)

>Level 70 FINALLY gives you something worthwhile with Demi-Bahamut and his 680 potency (+68 potency due to the 10% Dreadwyrm buff) Akh Morn that he can use twice in 20 seconds.

Getting to level 70 is going to be so painful, literally no reason to be excited about any Job Quest except for the last one.

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So glad i'll get to play vanilla samurai before the first nerf patch

>>378657193
More effort going into cash shop items :^)

>>378657214
whm mnk drk and mch are dead

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>>378656216
>>378656268
The only good looking crafter sets.

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>>378657258
>that hat

What in the absolute fuck

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does this picture still apply?

>>378656978
>bandanas everywhere
These sets offer no clear individual theme to differentiate them like the original afs. They are pretty shit, but it's not like you get to glamour them all when you have one crafting set.

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I was super happy about PLD getting some huge buffs until I saw what was happening to the other classes. I'm sorry lads, you don't deserve this.

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>all the hype about Monk getting maybe greased lightning 4 and getting a super saiyan aura pre-job action trailer
>what we actually get is Greased Lightning -1

>>378657258
Better than the Botanist AF2 at least.

>>378657258
BTNs are hobos anyway

>>378657280
>Only 14090 score

Your PC is shit mate

>>378655971
>>378655860
What's so bad about White Mage?

Please explain it in a way I can understand. I'm a fairly new player.

>>378656178
>the class is going to be benched the entire expansion ala Heavensward PLD unless they make raids hit obscenely hard to Gordias level
never going to happen. they have to balance fights to the lowest healer potency so every party combo can clear. it's the reason why their idea of pure healer whm will never ever be balanced

>>378657172
>that pickaxe
Will they ever make tools that look better than the Lucis ones of ARR?

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>>378657360
FUCK YOU YOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>378657276

I fear most jobs are going to be painful going from 1-70 now, more so than they already are.

>>378657394
i know, i need to download more ram

>>378657260
>bad for a few months in ARR
>then reworked to be the best tank in ARR
>and HW
>and SB

>Removed both ring of thorns and doom spike

what the fuck

>>378657345
Yes, but it needs one for Stormblood with glowing eyes.

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>Eastern stretch

What the fuck does that even mean? What did they mean by this?

>>378657309
It really tickles my autism that FSH is finally getting an offhand, having it be so much lower statwise than the other two Gatherers always bothered me.

Also I wonder if BSM will make the offhands or CRP

>no new healer
>completely destroy WHM
>no new tank
>try and make DRK a jack of all trades again

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>>378656723
>TRI-Disaster inflicts TWO effects
This can't be real.

What's the bane nerf people keep talking about?

My dick is so hard right now, I want this expansion for my WAR asap

>>378657403
The game is just a dps check with no real hard mechanics.
WHM is a pure healer with shit tier dps
If this was a good MMO and mechanics mattered that'd be great but because the game is so casualized as babies first mmo it will only ever be dps checks so the fact that whm can't do dps means they will never be played.

best videos for gameplay of stormblood where?

>>378657160
>mnk will never get a punching barrage attack
>not even in the weeaboo themed expansion
I just wanted to punch faster, but the dream is dead

>>378657403
If you aren't even in the raid community yet it doesn't even apply to you. Once you hit 50 you may as well just switch to AST though.

So the plan is to alienate a quarter of the population, and force them to quit?

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>>378657360
>>378657476
>mfw Stormblood was supposed to be the MNK expansion

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>>378657513
>and SB
you are a paladin's errand boy now

>>378657513

It wasn't just bad, it was outright NONVIABLE in any situation or fight. There was absolutely nothing warriors could do at all until Coil1 was already beat and over with.

>>378657551
Doom spike is still in.

Combo'd into another aoe called Sonic Thrust now.

>>378657561
You see, in the West we stretch like this
While in the East they stretch like this

>>378657561
I think all the "eastern" things are from the china or korea versions

>>378657551
Doom Spike is there, lost 30 potency but combos into another 170 potency aoe.

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My main classes are DRK and DRG. How fucked am I?

i have been away for a while. where can i see the new skills?

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WE

>>378657403
- A lot of skills they used to have innately like Protect, Esuna, Cleric Stance and Divine Seal were pilfered for use as cross-role skills. You'll need to use your cross-role slots if you want them back, and you won't be able to take everything you used to also get from other jobs (like Eye for an Eye).
- Their gauge mechanic is 100% RNG reliant and does nothing but slightly reduce the cooldown of some of your instant healing oGCDs like Tetragrammation and Asylum.
- Their new skills are also RNG reliant and either consume their RNG gauge or RNG stacks that you put on party members when you heal them.
- The new skills are also simply pure healing/shields with no DPS utility at all.
- Stoneskin was removed and replaced with one of the new skills which does the same thing but requires RNG stacks to activate.

Congratulations Yoshida, you just killed my Shitblood hype with just 1 fucking move.

>>378657242
>MNK
>open equipment overlay
>switch job crystal to SAM

>>378657630
PLD is going to be my Intervention bitch while I MT things using their Rampart.

>>378657712
You're a DPS main now.

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>>378657712
>DRK and DRG

any info on what rage of halone does now? also where are you guys getting the info? just found the gamerescape stuff and a couple youtube videos, which is a lot but just in case I missed something.

>>378657712
>DRK
they took our organs without replacing them.

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>tfw whm main
oh well i guess ill just level up one of the new meme classes, does anyone know what level they start at?

>>378657712
DRG is fine.

>>378657750
and nothing of value was lost

>>378657637
Thats because coil had mechanics and mechanics other than just HOW HARD CAN YOU HIT GUY A SO FUN HAHA.

>>378657727
ARE THE CRYSTAL

>>378657584
WHM can definitely do DPS dude, especially with Stone 4. The thing people don't like about it is the lack of utility which is surrounding the meta right now.

>>378657574
the third disaster is you realizing that the move is shit

>>378657712
drg is better now

>>378657750
Did you honestly feel you'd get anything else than HW 2.0? I played for 3 months, proved to myself I can beat savage raids and I'm done with the game.

>>378657735
The worst part is the RNG doesn't even increase their DPS like SCH's new RNG does

>>378657793
50. Enjoy those DPS queue times.

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>>378657727
WUZ

>>378657793
Both rdm and sam start at 50. enjoy potd.

>>378657784
No longer does str debuff same as always other than that

The pld video literally covers this muh dude.

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>Dragoon is still Impulse Drive until level 26
>it actually has even less abilities because you can't take venomous bite and fracture anymore

>>378657784
270 potency, lost STR debuff. That's it. Check MTQ for every single skill.

>>378657870
isnt path of the dead faster anyways

>>378657814
BRAVES

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Can't wait for all the
>Naruto reference

>>378657784
It no longer has the STR debuff, but its potency was increased.

No big deal, since WAR is also losing the Path debuff and DRK's Delirium is now a cooldown.

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>>378657768
>>378657792
I thought DRK was getting its own Fell Cleave and even mroe AoE, What the fuck happened? It's the only tank I enjoy please don't do this to me.

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>Scholar gets nothing but buffs

The master race marches on...

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>>378657905
SAMURAIZ

>>378657575
Bane got shafted harder than flare and holy lmao
But at least the ability numbers aren't finalized, I hope

>>378657727
>>378657905
>that hand position
I'm no samurai, but what the fuck.

>>378657931
alright cool, was hoping for halone to apply some debuff even if it was crap, it was nice to have the timer there for reference to use halone again and build some aggro, gonna have to keep an eye on that now that RA comboes of riot blade.

>>378657810
>binding coil
>mechanics
T1 was literally tank and spank but with 2 tanks, everyone ignored the slimes early on.
T2 was >enrage
>T3
T4 was adds
T5 was all about not dying to Death Sentence and twisters.

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Repeat after me:

WHM is shit.

>>378658028
I gathered that, what are the actual numbers though?

out of all the people who got to play, mr.happy literally does the worst and least effort put into it videos.

WHAT THE FUCK.

>>378657853
What new RNG? As far as I know the only change to SCH's personal damage is that they get Broil 2 and switch Bio/Bio2/Miasma for Bio3/Miasma3 just like SMN.

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>No 4th mudra
5.0 waiting room where

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>>378658032
U doubt my skillz as a sam reimi white boi?

>>378657034
8 hours in an MMO is fucking nothing, retard. Especially not in a sandbox game. Seeing as you don't even know what the fuck to do in one as you wrote no content, dumb themepark faggot.

>>378657983
I feel it anon. DRK was my favorite thing from this fucking game also. I mean that flip you saw in the job action trailer does 550 and 650 with dark arts, but they took out a lot of our oGCDs. Now we just spam DA+soul eater and try to build as much blood as possible. We can't even use blood price without fucking GRIT now, whoever thought that made sense.

>>378658118
He speaks well tho and isnt a redditard

>>378658148
>tfw in 5.0 they remove ninjutsu and just make all of them their own skills with global CDs

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can someone explain to me how monk was nerfed?
weapon skills were lowered by 10pot each and forbidden chakra to 250, but considering you can use it more than once per fight now is that really a nerf? especially with how quickly it seems that chakra will build, considering that your party can build it too
like, if you get to use it once within 24 gcds, that's a dps increase right?

>>378657994

>Bane nerf

Which isn't an issue for boss fights at all, of course. What I will say for SCH in dungeons is that with the new fairy tether and that heal that triggers as a target drops below 50% HP, SCH might spend even less time babysitting the tank. That ultimately means more time for dps.

Did BLM get better yet?

>>378656603
Why do you think they only ever post the sluts they made in their Korean mmo's and never any actual gameplay?

>>378658238
RIDDLE
OF
FIRE

>>378657034
You are correct and good on you for identifying that so early. I wasted a couple of months, money and time before realizing that.

>>378658249
BLM are literally mana batteries now.

Your job is to provide MP. That's it.

>>378658137
At level 68 they unlock a trait called Quickened Aetherflow
Ever time they use an Aetherflow spender (including Energy Drain), theres a 20% chance that Aetherflow will have its cooldown reduced by 10s

>>378654946
I don't even want to know how badly they're going to fuck up the PLD quest. 50-60 quests were horrid, so what's going to come out after they've already scraped the bottom of the barrel?

>>378658249
Give your RDM masters your MP.

>>378656160
Omega won't have to rely on meme themes.

>>378658069
Foul is the GOAT
>>378658249
I think overall we got nerfed, but at least we can spam foal and manage to top the aoe dmg charts.

>>378658218
no.

>>378655695
what about bard SOMEONE TELL ME ABOUT THE TOOTS

>>378658238
Riddle of Slowdown, RNG on melee class to do damage, no raid utility except 5% damage increase and spam forbidden chakra which also relies on other retards to do their job.

>>378656798
Alchemist?

>>378658293
riddle of fire still comes out with a dps increase of 5% though right? it just executes skills slower? i'm not good with math so bear with me, but -30% skill speed, +15% from GL3 means a net loss of 15% skill speed, while raising damage by 20%. assuming that's right, wouldn't that mean it was the same damage buff as ever, but with less tp usage?

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>>378658450

if the afro didnt look so shity id make a afro samurai in a heartbeat, in mmo's they either get the afro right or not at all sadly.

>>378658538
Most people don't play monk to go with 2.6 GCD.

>>378658204
Wait so now there's no possible way to use blood price and blood weapon at the same time?

>>378658515
Nothing but buffs, bby

>>378657012
Is that a new emote, or is it just flavor for the screenshot?

>>378658360

People were worried that SCH would lose MP regen because there's an MP regen healer role ability.

Now, not only do Aetherflow and Energy Drain still recover MP, but we have a chance to reduce the Aetherflow CD as we expend charges. That will actually build momentum in the long run, as shortening your Atherflow CD will give you more stacks sooner and spending those stacks can in turn shorten your next Aetherflow after that.

>>378658554
Why is this 50% for more than 5 enemies but Bane is fucking 80?

>>378658243
and Excog has no duration, so it sits on them indefinitely, until triggered.

>>378657712
DRG got potency buffs to pretty much EVERYTHING

I'm not as wowed by Nastrond as some of the other Level 70 abilities.

>Need to be in Blood of the Dragon
>Need to use either Jump or Spineshatter to become Dive Ready
>Need to use Mirage Dive to add an Eye to your Dragon Gauge
>Need four eyes on your Dragon Gauge just get access to a 320 potency Geirskogul.

Compare that to Summoner who gets access to two 680 Potency Akh Morns from Bahamut itself.

The new MCH rework looks fun, if not more challenging than before.

>>378658652
>Is that a new emote
$13 in cash shop. Please look forward to it.

>>378658596
ok but i'm asking about how useful it is, not how much people will enjoy it. people hated wanderers minuet too but it was an improvement all the same

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>>378658608
Yep. PLEASE LOOK FORWARD TO IT!

>>378658238
Basically they made SAM better then them at everything and more fun to play.

>>378658538
The problem with that is you're not accounting for the buff/debuff skills you need to apply as MNK and how they're going to be harder to apply with the slower GCD.

>>378658673

I noticed that a well. Stoneskin will not be missed.

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>>378658658
Feels fucking GOOD baby

Maybe I'll take Lucid Dreams, too, just so I can never possibly run out of mana

>>378657276
Just think, you can cast enkindle 10sec faster to watch it not go off cause the mobs died and the egi went retarded.

>>378658515
bards have to relearn how to play the game for a 3rd time, looks interesting to me. Every song deals dmg, permanent teamwide 2% crit increase, can increase team mini crits by 15%.

Can give people extra 15% hp or 10% phy resist or 10% magic resist.

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>Doom spike potency from 150 to 130
>New level 62 ability that functions identically to doom spike combo's off it for 170 potency
>RESULTING IN A NET POTENCY OF 150 PER AOE GCD

?

???

?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>378658715
>crafter exclusive emotes on Mog Station
I could actually see it happening.

Wait, hold the fucking phone, why didn't anyone tell me the following about DRK:

>Darkside no longer drains mana while active and also has a 5% potency increase.

What the hell? We WAR now?

>>378658652
You know there's a eating animation when consuming certain food, right?

>>378658812
Maybe the amount of TP spent is less? Either way it's fucking retarded and a waste of a new ability. I hope it at least looks cool.

>>378658785

I'm actually really unsure which healer role actions I will be taking. Troll hook for sure. I think boss fights will be fun for SCH.

>>378658812
it sure fucking looks cool though
but yeah what the fuck

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>>378658812
>We're cutting bloat
>We're turning DRG's main AoE skill into two buttons

>>378658204
>>378657983
Dont warry anon. Dark now the most complex tank in game v 2.0. Delirium eats DA for 400 potency. SE eats DA, Bloddspiler eats DA. MP manegment would be pain in the ass but goona skyrocket, Preatty sure skill speed meta dark on the way.

>>378658884
>I hope it at least looks cool.
It does, and I am fucking PISSED it's not single target skill.

>>378658721
It's hard to say since we don't know how skill speed at endgame will effect it or if the ability numbers are finalized, but losing out on that much skill speed and fucking with your rotation seems like you will not get much dps out of it after the ogcd burst.

>>378658667
CAUSE WE WERE THE AOE CLASS BEFORE YOU FUCKS STOLE THAT FROM US

We just getting our title back.

>>378658538
Riddle of Fire lasts 20 seconds. With a 2.0 GCD, in 20 seconds you can execute 10 weaponskills. If you assume each weaponskill has an average potency of 100, that's 1000 potency over that 20 seconds.

If you instead increase the GCD to 2.6, you can only execute 7 weaponskills in the same time. But since your damage is increased by 20%, each weaponskill does 120 average damage for a total of 840 potency.

So, it's a DPS loss on your base rotation. It's only a genuine increase on your oGCDs.

I have to feel it's not final. 30% speed reduction is just absurd.

>>378658803
>tfw shitters still won't turn on songs

>>378658845
Yes. DRK now has Fell cleave.

DRK might not be dead but it might be a OT kind of tank that does more damage.

So kinda of a DPS class now like it was SUPPOSE to be.

Seriously. DRK a dps class, not a tank class.

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WHO BARD HERE?
WE
DEM
BOIS

>>378658845
sounds like drk has been casualized beyond belief. glad i never got past 50 with it.

>>378658667
I fucking hate you scummoners, ruining my scholar aoe you fucking hacks

Not sure if confirmed but Yoshi P goes.

>SAM will be the carry dps augmented by the groups buffs.

>BLM which logically would be the caster equivalent has raging strike removed together with foe's and the only thing increasing magic damage now is MCH's measly 5%.

What did they mean by this? Why let people go with a pure physical setup but not make a just as viable caster setup?

>>378658884
it does spend less tp

why hasn't the gcd been lowered
will skill speed and spell speed increases remedy this

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>>378655695
Can anyone tell me why WHM is considered dead? I must have missed it.

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>>378657983
>>378658204
>>378658608
>>378658725
Fuck this. I'm so glad I decided to switch to SCH. Tanking in this game was already tremendously boring shit and they nerfed the only (relatively) well made tanking Job into a new state of unfun. They should seriously take a look at some of the tank specs in WoW, the tanks jobs in XIV are so homogeneous and these changes aren't helping.

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>>378658621
>>378658803
>>378658983
time to resub lads

>>378659060
ALL DPS NERF except for Stone IV.

RIP WHM. Now you are a pure healing bitch.

>>378659060
you get more healing basically

>>378658946
> Delirium
Syphon, fuck,

>>378657793
>>378657914
>>378657870
But for the low, low price of $25 you can jump your new meme class all the way from 50 to 60!

>>378659113
>>378659112
then its fixed.
Fuck DPS WHM's and people who expected that.
The day is saved.

>>378659112
Did they nerf Aero II and III?

>>378658983
MCH ON WIPE WATCH

>>378659030
since everyone does more dps now, sch dps isn't needed nearly as much, so we can replace your sorry ass with ast

>>378659038
SAM doesn't have any buffs like raging strikes either.

>>378659072
PLD was so shit they had to gut the other tanks to make it better.

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Gonna do it lads.

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>combat revamp just makes combat worse for all jobs
Guess I'll become a crafter
>weekly scrips still in
B-become a glamourfag and ERP like crazy?
>Balmung's locked

>>378659140
>>>/officialforums/

>>378658973

>tfw play BLM and SCH

If I play either I can get a buddy to play the other and we'll have all our bases covered.

POST ROTATION IMAGES FOR STORMBLOOD

>>378659131
You can't use jump potion on sam and rdm.

>>378659140
Oh boy can't wait to use my new healing skills

just kidding, you didn't have a problem with healing before.

>>378659146
If it not STONE IV, It got NERF.

>>378658845
Nowhere near. You don't have a buff like Berserk and you can't use Bloodspiller anywhere near as often as Fell Cleave.

>>378659146
No. Aero now upgrades into Aero II and Aero II is now instant. Aero III is still separate. So the only difference is that you don't apply Aero I, which you don't have to do anyway because Stone IV does more damage.

>>378659131
You cant buy a level boost for the new classes. Have fun in palace

>>378659153
Can't replace a strictly better Battle Litany

>>378659158
You don't need it with the buffs you get from doing combos, your big dick 150% damage on next move drg style buff and high enough potency to make BLM's feel inadequate.

>>378659172
do us all a favor and kys you'reself

>>378659172
come to leviathan and become crazy!

>>378659060
More heals we don't need and our only worthwhile skills are gutted and given to the other healers, which we have to use cross-class slots to get back.

>>378659158
samurai's high potency attacks make up for it. they won't even need blood for blood to be number 1

>>378658982
EVERY TANK HAS FELL CLEAVES NOW
JUST GIVE EVERY FUCKING JOB A FELL CLEAVE YOSHI YOU FUCKING HACK SINCE THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN MAKE THEM FUN TO PLAY

>>378659060
Everybody getting new stuff

they actually removed stuff from whm.
Read this:
>>378657735

>>378659172

And of course Kugane will be an ERP hub.

All SE is doing is catering to the real player base.

>>378659072
But WAR didn't get nerfed.

>>378658204
Citation fucking needed, I don't believe you. Why the fuck would they gut DRK of all tanks? It wasn't even fucking broken.

>>378659259
I suspect that a lot of SAM's tooltips are not final. the 150% increase skill is probably meant to be a 50% increase. They probably just mistranslated "increases damage TO 150%" as "increases damage BY 150%".

A lot of their move potencies will probably be nerfed too because they are just absurd.

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>>378658812

>>378656432
why does SAM have a 1 Sen DoT that's not a part of any combo then?

>>378659273
Don't tell people who want to join Balmung to come to my comfy Levi please, thanks

Also, I didn't see this new dungeon footage either. It looks like it's the same shit all over again as far as dungeons are concerned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aknKbqUYZ-I

>>378659003
>>378658982
>>378659225
I didn't mean literally WAR, but it is in the same vein in terms of resource management. I mean blood price during grit only is fine. But skills that were not available in grit now becoming available I don't like. The more I look into it the more I think that DRK is just more complicated than other tanks while bringing nothing better so people simply won't play it.

>>378659172
>weekly scrips still in
uncapped scripts were confirmed.

>>378658204
The only oGCDs they took out were Low Blow and Reprisal.

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Sch healslut here, can't wait to be bullied by all these new WAR and PLD mains :3

>>378659241
>>378659191
I'm shocked they're actually saving people money.

>>378658667
SMNs are being punished for being the whiniest class in the community for four years

>>378659360
They're final. Just expect every single patch through-out the expansions life to include samurai nerfs and dick circumcisions.

>>378659471
>I think that DRK is just more complicated than other tanks
lol

>>378659562
SMN here. I can live with this.

I seriously hope SE reconsiders giving lilies with regen ticks. Theyre fucking retarded hOLY SHIT WHY MAKE CURE/CURE II GIVE LILIES WITH SHIT PROC CHANCE INSTEAD OF REGEN TICKS WITH 20% CHANCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Is mch looking good?

>>378659225
You can spam it evry 5s. Darkest night bitch.

>>378659540
>new
Tanks will still be tanks, nobody who isn't playing a tank already will convert. If anything a few DRKs and WARs will switch to samurai so we might lose tanks.

>>378659540
As a whm healslut I'm actually happy we get more heals and not dps. I can fulfill my role better.

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If it wasn't for the top palace it wouldn't have been recognizable.

>>378659626
beggars can't be choosers. and wtf are you doing playing white mage anyways lmfao

>>378659540
Neck yourself.

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>>378656269
>MNK gets potency nerfs
>meanwhile SAM gets a 980 potency nuke usable every 30 seconds

>>378659540
kys you're self too

>NPC's wearing ironworks style clothing in Rhalgr's Reach so expect Rowena.
I wonder if the Idyllshire shitters will still hang out there instead of Kugane.

I hate the amount of cash shop shit so much
there should be no cash shop in a sub based game.

>>378659701
well it's not like you were needed before, and most definitely won't be needed now. So I guess everyone is happy.

How on Earth did Yoshi think Tanks would stay tanks and Healers would stay healers. The only class that got an interesting rework out of all 6 of them was Paladin. So many people will swap off these roles and the queues will be terrible for months and months. Two years of this shit, goddammit

>>378659751
They get a 1080 potency nuke if they use the kenki buff on their 3 sen skill too.

>>378658975
i tabbed away for a moment but thanks, this was what i was after

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>>378659751

>>378659710

If you didn't have a comparison there I might have thought I was looking at Ul'Dah.

Hopefully it looks better with more lighting and from a different perspective. The height of the city with the mountains in the background are what made that concept art awesome.

>>378659819
Please understand.
We need the money since we make horrible decisions.
Please understand.

>>378659751
720 x 1.5(Kaiten, 2.5 is obviously mistranslated) x 1.15(Jinpu buff)

It's 1242 bro.

>>378659846
I don't raid.

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yoshit if you think killing my job will make me switch to ast or sch u got another thing coming u fag!!!!
im going full naruto enjoy geting more complaints of long qeues u nip retard!

>>378655695
whm is too easy as it is. reducing potency will add extra challenge and will hopefully stop DPS from bitching about whm not doing any dps when they're too busy doing their main job; healing..

>>378659148
What's so good about bard now? I don't see anything that stands out.

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>>378659637
Heat mechanic seems to be a bit annoying. Reload has a 30s cd now, but only gives 3 ammo, but at 50+ heat the basic combo with ammo does like 900 potency now. Turrets are still in, contrary to what everyone thought, so it seems to be alright.

Other classes got hit waaay worse, so it's looking all good.

>>378659947
Like I said, everyone is happy haha

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>>378659540
>320x400

You could have at least posted the full version you chronic failure.

Why are MNKs the only class who got their potency nerfed? Every other melee DPS got their potencies increased

>>378660012
I'll be keeping my bf happy for sure :^)

>>378659471
>gated paths everywhere
They must really really hate it when they see players mass pull in their garbage dungeons.

>>378659665
15s cooldown, and DRK barely has enough MP for 3 of them.

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>>378658983

>>378660057
RAID DAMAGE INCREASE SHAT THA FUCK UP

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>>378660057
because fuck you, that's why

>>378660057
Because they are the only class that has Internal Release

Where the fuck can i read about all these new skills?

>>378660057
>parsers are techincally against the rules
>none of the testers use parsers cause of this
>they guesstimate man it looks like i'm doing tons of dps
>I think we should nerf them cause it LOOKS like we doing tons of dmg without actually checking

Probably thats why

>>378659751
Just play SAM

>>378660095
you don't even do that well

>>378660179
Reddit

>>378656603
better than ffxiv

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>>378659751
Where's all the build my chakra stacks posting now, huh?

>>378656323
I can kinda sympathize with you but
>Fracture
>Worth the TP, ever

>>378660179
literally redit. and every poster here is from redit.
/v/ is fucking reddit. can't even type rddit cuz system thinks spam.

>>378660240
H-how do you know?

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>Heal at 100% effectiveness.

>They way to make the job more viable for everyone is to buff their healing effectiveness to 120%.

>>378657735
Wait no more stance dance? THE WHM MAIN QUEST EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF ALSO DOING DPS STOP TAKING MY DEEPS AWAY

>>378660357
it will fail like every other garbage F2P MMO