“Pride of the Fatherland..”

"Nein, Tank battle is not at all like boxing."

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>>377934379
Some of the scariest killing machines in history.

>>377934379
What kind of gay shit is this. Looks like lego tanks.

>>377934379
"Think of what we could do with another 1000 Tigers"

FUCKING CRUTCH TANK L2P

>>377934379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3azxIAWJdh0
I'm assuming this isnt a company of heroes thread

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>>377934379
Зa Poдинy! Зa Cтaлинa!

>>377934379
who though having a vertical armor on the front was a good idea
it's pretty good looking though

>>377934379
>Pride of the fatherland
>Profile has right angles
PICK ONE

>>377935439
Except they weren't my dude. They're numbers are confirmed to have been small, and actually battles against them occurred only a handful of times. It's the myth of the machine that permeated allied armies, so an engagement at 500m-1k where the enemy wasn't easily seen but still wrecked allied armor would be chalked up to Tigers, even though most allied loses were due to high velocity lower-caliber round penetration, where the Tigers main gun didn't so much penetrate targets but just ripped them apart.

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>>377934379
Outta my way Tiger fucking shits

>>377934379
Meme tank for wehraboos.
But this gun mantlet is pure sex.

>>377936597
A lot of wow german engineering so good! myths were created after the war, to salvage Germany and build it up as an ally against the USSR.
Since they couldn't praise the command, they praised the scientists and engineers. Never mind that jet planes and rockets were about as effective use of money and specialists as catapulting golden bars and personnel at the enemy hoping to kill them.

>>377934379
>gets P-47'd
>Hanz se transmission broke

WW2 was a mistake.

>>377937056
>german engineering is a meme
I wouldn't say that. I mean they inventent cars and their engines, the first computer and played the most important role at the first moonlanding and so on.
And they took over Europe for a period of time which means they can't be that bad.

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"Only the finest in German engineering"

Tiger 1 is where Germany heavy armour should have stopped, maybe some sort of improvement on the original design. More reliable engine/drive train etc. That is what German tanks suffered from the most, at least their later designs like the Panther, Tiger 2 and the plethora of retarded TDs. Usually stemmed from an okay concept, but a bunch of retarded like Hitler would come in and yell "It needs 20mm of armour here and here, also a bigger gun" all whilst keeping the same engine and drivetrain that was meant to power something 10-20 tons lighter. Usually this went all while the initial production phase already began so they would have to start all over again and scrap shit.

Should have kept making the pz4, stug and the smaller TDs that were usually built on older/obsolete chasis. Redesign the pz4 with some sort of sloped armour etc and put it into production. Just like what the top advisors and generals recommended at the beginning of Barbarossa, a carbon copy of the t34. One with better QC, Optics, radios and stabilizers etc.

>>377938842
>a carbon copy of the t34. One with better QC, Optics, radios and stabilizers etc.
So nothing like the T-34 then?

>>377937113
Less than 10% of armor losses in ww2 were to ground attack

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>>377934379
pssht nothing personal kraut

>>377939109

Okay that was not the best wording for that statement i made but still, that was the recommendation at the beginning of Barbarossa. They should have taken the concept and actually made a tank like the Sherman or t34. A mainstay tank that could have numerous iterations but still stick to the same concept and continuously improve. They had the pz4 but it was quite an old design and it's non-sloped armour held it back quite a bit from reaching it's full potential. At the very least they should have seriously ramped up pz4 and stug production. All whilst making smart use of all the old chassis they inherited from other countries or just had to make effective TDs.

In reality it wouldn't have mattered, the German logistical system was a joke. They had no where near enough trucks and most of their vehicles required extensive field workshops.

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>>377937056
Hint:

Germany couldnd just mass produce cheap vehicles like the soviets and usa. They had not enough resources and manpower to outproduce them.

Soviets made 80,000 T34 alone.

Germany only made 50,000 armored vehicles during the whole war. (Thats all of them)

16,409 Panzer III (wich includes the Stugs etc)
13,522 Panzer IV
6557 Panther
1138 Tiger I
569 Tiger II

vs

80,000 T34
53,000 Shermans

And please explain the picture.

>>377939621

>(cracks shitty armour welded together by an barely literate mother of 3 after firing a few rounds)

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>>377939621
>150mm

lol

>>377939753
Its called Panther.

It was supposed to replace the Panzer IV. It was actually slightly cheaper to produce and had a much better combat performance. Yes it had some mechanical problems in its first versions but one should not forget the very short development times and basicly no testing.

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*blocks your path*

>>377938842
>Should have kept making the pz4, stug and the smaller TD
This. Guderian was right when he bemoaned the development of the Jagdpanzer IV, it's development was a waste of time and resources when the Pz.IV and StuG III were still performing well enough.

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>>377939873
look Alexei, a naziboo insecure about its gun caliber

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Oh im sorry I thought this was a thread for GOOD SOLID TANKS not tankettes

>>377939834


germany was never gonna win by outproducing, they were going to win by blitzkrieg, they lost the eastern front when they couldnt take moscow, then they lost it again when one of their generals didnt outflank kursk.

>>377940067
The design alone was asinine

Needing to cut off and reweld the upper glacis to maintain the tranny is just waste manhours

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>>377934379
oh look. my breakfast

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>>377940460
>american steel

>>377940265
Said a guy who posted ISU-152

>>377938842
The Engine was one of the most reliable and best of WW2. The same engine was used on the Tiger II and it maintained similar miles per hour. And it was very durable, ESPECIALLY for a heavy tank. A stronger engine was probably too overkill at the time and would be expensive to produce and take larger space.

Take some time to actually research some statistics on how good Tiger tank engines were.

>>377937113
Literally the best a P-47 can dream of, or a wing of 100 can also dream of. Armor losses to aircraft in WW2 were very rare, and most of them were done by germans with innovative Ground-attack aircraft designs mounting 37mm cannons (or similar calibers).

>>377940845
Don't bully Ivan, he is too retarded to make good shells, so he just make the gun bigger and doesn't bother to check if moving the turret of the IS-3 will cut the loader legs.

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>>377940674
Say that to my face fucker

>>377936597
This
AT guns waiting in ambush are what fucked tanks up most of the time

>>377941092
fucking ugly

>playan War Thunder right now
I love my Panther II so much

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>>377935439
What game is that? One of these graviteam tactics titles?

>>377941349
>playing War Blunder

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>>377941141
DONT INSULT STARSHIP CHAN

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>>377941053
IS-3 is stylish as fuck tho, too bad it was impracticable

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>>377941526
>IS-3
>stylish

One of the most ugliest tank Russian ever produced.

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T-44-100 IS A CUTE

>>377941430
Yes, looks like the newest one.

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>ywn fuck shit up with a M50 Ontos

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>>377941693
n-no you

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>>377936617
>88mm tiger gun
Glorious IS2 brings 122 and actually works. Feels good to be a soviboo.

>>377941920
Thanks, anon.

>>377941728
>calling cancer cute
just more food for my 88

>>377938343
It was at least partially (a big part) a myth. Look at war propaganda from the allies, diminishing everything the germans did.
And then compare to post war propaganda, suddenly the germans were evil geniuses, not just regular screwups.

>>377942083
How's the reload time working out for you?

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>>377941430
Yes, tank warfare tunisia 1943


>>377943686
Wait, you think that kind of thing mattered in real life, or are you some warthunder/world of shit kid?

>>377944859
>you think that kind of thing mattered in real life

It is.

>>377944990
How and why? Quickly explain it with sources.

>>377945390
>Explain me how reloading the gun matters, please use sources.
Are you for real?

>>377934379
Nice street ornament.

>>377945554
No, kid, explain me why you think firing the gun continuously was ever a viable tactic.

You used up your first chance, you have 1 more to actually come up with a source showing how tankers are instructed to engage targets.

>engage target at range
>miss
>adjust aim and try again after waiting an eternity for the loader to do his thing
>miss second shot
>adjust aim, you've got him zeroed now
>whoops the enemy just struck true and torn the loader in half because he managed to get four shots out in the same space of time

WWII tank combat didn't have laser painting, computer-aimed guns with ultra high velocity shells and gunners that don't get deployed unless they score 99% first shot hits on the range or some bollocks. People missed all the damn time, and the guy who can fire faster will get his aim right faster.

>>377936617
>horrible optics
>inefficient multi-stage ammo
>gun had to be depressed each time for a reload, meaning adjusting a shot was impossible
>crewed by drunk slavs

>>377946065
>you fire 1 shot
>reload
>finish reload
>fire another shot
>it doesn't land remotely close to target
>because your fucking sight is obscured with dust
>because you didn't give your fucking commander a chance to do fucking corrections
>because its not possible to actually do fucking corrections in mere seconds

Why do World of shit/shitthunder smear their shit over real tanks? do you know what it looks like when you're looking through a gun sight with your arms hanging around twisting cranks to get the sight on target?

>>377946507
not him, but don't be an idiot, please

>>377947070
>don't shit on my arcade game bls, its realistic :D

>>377940461
Babby's first understanding of history.

After the initial fights about HALF of the german army was unsuitable for offensive maneuvers. They lost instantly in the east,
Just look at their own reports on what division is ready for what kind of action, and you will see the defense in depth gave them no chance. If this attack played out 100 times, they'd lose 95+, it wasn't some bad dice.

>>377947308
I don't give a fuck about them, I'm not an autist to expect video GAMES to be fully realistic when they don't even to be, WoT especially and then sperg out

I'm just calling you out on your bullshit

>>377946507
Almost every single account of tank combat in WWII has had the gunner adjusting the aim himself if he's got line of sight to the target. The commander typically has his head stuck out the hatch with a pair of binoculars, how is he supposed to get an accurate reading of exactly where the gun needs to be pointing like that?

>>377946507
>because your fucking sight is obscured with dust
If you weren't a gigantic retard, you will notice the barrel has two holes at the end to minimize the dust caused by firing.

>>377947784
>Unbuttoned commander in combat

they were trained not to do that.

Also, no again. The commander's hatch was elevated in most tanks so he can see above the main gun's smoke, follow the tracer, see where it lands, and use his RANGEFINDING MEASURES to figure out the range.

Try again, shithunder casual.

>>377947605

kys

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real GOAT coming through

>>377948350
>no skirts
lewd

>>377948158
If you weren't a huge turd, you would realise that does nothing about dust kick-up from the ground.

Why do turds think they know about tanks? I researched about them for years, helped advise Steel beasts patches on SimHQ, literally entire battalion-tier tank strategy/tactics were drawn up and planned around the single fact of how much dust-kick up would blind them while firing during the cold war, and some casual turd on 4chan thinks he knows better.

>>377946231
>>gun had to be depressed each time for a reload, meaning adjusting a shot was impossible
that sounds fucking awfull

>>377948643
>I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals

>>377948736
Soviet tanks were actually fucking awfull, but Slavboos won't admit it.

>>377947784

Yeah and some memoirs by tankers include things like jumping over a fucking river in a cromwell tank, doesn't mean it happened.

Personal accounts are not usually reliable unless independently corroborated.

>>377948843
If tank break, make new one
Tank break a lot, make lots of new ones, win war

>>377948736
Not really, many soviet tanks continued to have this into the cold war, it was an annoyance to gunners, but they passed it on the T-62 because the gunner's sight would be obscured by dust kick-up from the main gun's fire anyway for him to see anything due to how close to the ground the gun is + it wasn't a necessity for the gunner to keep track on target while the commander could + the commander could electrically cue the main gun on his own coordinates with a button + the gun had an electric stabilizer that pulled it back to the last azimuth.

>>377948843

It doesn't matter. They were good enough to do the job required of them, while the German tanks weren't. That's all there is to it wehraboo.

>>377948350
no skirts p4 is one of the most, if not the most, aesthetic ww2 tank

>>377949009
Turn tractor and truck factories into more tank factories, don't need because US friend giving tractors and trucks for free.

>>377948836
>lost argument
>pull my memebook out

>well I just missed our first shot
>never mind they did too, tovarish
>oh, good thing we can reload faster huh, Ivan?
>gets killed while fiddling with multiple part heavy shit ammo

yeah, totally negligible factor, stupid wotkiddies/war thundercucks :^)

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>Not buying your own tank from slav land for less than the price of a luxury car

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2/t-34-35

>>377948643
>dust kick-up from the ground
Dust being kicked up varied wildly depending on the climate. The smoke from a 75mm AT gun dissipated quickly when on good ground but kicked up a storm on dry, dusty plains. I wish that games set in Africa or during the Summer operations on the eastern front took this into account.

>>377948306
>>377948997
Going into combat without buttoning up is something that's been virtually universally shared by every British, German, and US account I have ever read. You simply cannot see out of a WWII-era tank very well, even a properly designed one, especially not compared to the uninterrupted 360-degree vision + binoculars granted by the hatch.

More than one German account has attributed the Soviet tankers' tendency to be buttoned up all the time to their poor performance in combat; often Soviet tanks would apparently not see the German tanks until they started firing, and even then they could still be slow to react and identify the German positions. Meanwhile the German tanks with their commanders peeking over the rim of the hatch with their binoculars see the Soviet tanks coming (literally) miles away and almost always got the first shot because of it.

>>377944990
It matters, but its not as important as the IS-2 was used primarily to demolish fortifications, not to engage enemy armor. The reload time isn't as big of an issue when you are engaging static targets. Though it was capable of engaging enemy armor, it was not ideal.

>>377934379
i really don't care if the tank wasn't as amazing as i think it is, or if i get called wehraboo, but the tiger is pure sex

>>377948643
>I researched about them for years, helped advise Steel beasts patches on SimHQ
Ok Mr Expert, if reloading time is "pointless" in real life, please tell me why every nation played with the idea of autoloaders and even revolver magazines.

>>377949736
It's because most Soviet tanks didn't even have an effective commander you retard. The turret was 2-men, 3-man turrets with the cupola improved this. The commander Is never supposed to be unbuttoned in combat unless there's on return fire.

>>377950092

The Tiger was. All these Tiger Aces wouldn't have racked up their kills if not for the Tiger. You don't ever hear about a German Tank ace who primarily only drove a Panzer IV or even a tanker. Most of them all drove Tiger-Is.

>>377950503

>or even a tanker

I meant Panther

>>377949129
>They were good enough to do the job required of them

Not really, but I you can produce 20K tanks in a year it doesn't really matter

>>377950371
>Autoloaders
Literally slows down the reload speed of tanks to 3-4 effective shells a minute
>one crew man less
>lighter weight
>automated
>smaller tank structure
>almost exclusively soviet

>Revolver magazines

Something something never got out of blueprints, I should've stopped reading there though. Shitthunder casuals think their games are sources.

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>MEANEST DAMN WAR MACHINE IN UNCLE SAM'S SERVICE, AND I MEAN IT!

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HELLO COMRADES

>>377950637
You are fucking retarded, if Tanks of similar strenghts meet the one that can shoot a lot faster will win.

>>377949593
You'll get assraped by the shipping/import costs.

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>>377944859
TWT'44 is a solid game lad

>>377950637
>I should've stopped reading there though. Shitthunder casuals think their games are sources.
I had hopes when I opened this thread that there would be an entertaining discussion about video games, or about historical tank service.

I should have known that it'd just be kids circlejerking over real life tanks based on random bullshit some coder did for balance purposes in a video game.

>>377950587

You keep missing the point. They would not be able to produce 20k tanks in a year if they were more complex then they were.

The reason they could was because they designed their tanks in a specific way.

No genius is required to created an overengineered tank that is ok on the field but takes an ungodly amount of manhours to produce. Engineering is all about efficiency. If the germans managed to push 20k tanks a year than were better than t34 that would've been an achievement.

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>you will never play COH1 again at patch 1.6

>>377950989
>the shitthunder/world of shit rule

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>>377950637
>>Revolver magazines
>Something something never got out of blueprints
>Shitthunder casuals think their games are source
So much to research about tanks for years.

>>377938842

people like to meme that hitler lost because he loved heavy tanks. when in reality they barely built any, 90% of germany tank production went into PzIV and Panther and they were both great tanks.
Stuff like the Maus never would of been produced on any meaningful scale. their own purpose was as an assault vehicle anyway.

>>377950807
>gets 4shotted by a 88

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>>377951191
Heres your last (You)

>>377951221
the panther was ruined by hitler's autism
which is a shame because the tank was pure sex

>>377951221
>people like to meme that hitler lost because he loved heavy tanks.
Even funny because Stalin loved them even more, so much they were named after him.

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*shoots you 18 times*

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>>377934379
"Scheiße, thank god for Krupp steel."
CoH > CoH2 any day of the week.

>>377951306
DO NOT BULLY THE AMERICAN TANKS!

>>377938842
>>377940189

And yet the StuGIII still remains as the most produced German "tank" and is credited with the highest number of allied armor kills.

>>377939753

they didn't know the t34 existed until they started running into it mid 41.
The Tiger I was a response to the kv-1.
early t34s wern't seen as a threat like the kv's were.

>>377951476

>Sakkijarven Polkka intensifies

>>377951207
>unsuccessful one-try at tanks by frogs
>made the tank unbelievably easy to catastrophically detonate because of how crammed ammunition is
>one of them was destroyed by small arms fire in lebanon
>most remotely resemblant system used in the BMP was unsuccessful too and caused easy cook offs by any penetrations into the carousel area
>no modern MBT uses this system

never change, shitthunder casuals.

>>377951221

One one hand you are right but imagine the manhours wasted that could've been spent on building panthers and PzIVs.

>>377951221
People love to meme about wunderwaffe stuff like the Maus, but they only happen out of desesperation to stop the innevitable.

>>377951657
>It never existed!
It did
>SHUT UP YOU FUCKING CASUAL, NO IT DIDNT.

>>377951476
What a disaster.

>>377951508
I love their voice acting in both the games
>MG fires on a sherman
"What's that gunner thinking? Kill those stupid assholes"

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>>377934379
>reactive armor made boxy tank designs viable again
God bless the bongs

>>377951794
>hehe, but what about autoloaders!!!! they made them to make reloading faster
>mfw shitthunder fag buttblasted because he's too retarded to realise they slowed down the loading process

>>377951221
Redesigns and new tank production did eat up a lot of resources and time though. The production cost of the Panther on it's own may have been good but the re-tooling, production-line reorganizing, lack of existing interchangeable parts and the limited field experience were hidden costs that the Germans could have done without. This applies to the heavies as well as other late-war designs.

>>377952201

The truth is that late war tanks were just a desperate overcompensation. Germany lost the war the moment the Luftwaffe was crippled. I like to think that the Battle of Britain was were the outcome of WW2 was decided.

>>377951048
just one autist this time, been worse, tank threads tend to go off the tracks

>>377952003
>autoloaders are shit and never went anywhere
>the T-90, T-14, Type 90, Type 10, Type 99, K2 Black Panther, and the AMX Leclerc all use autoloaders right now

What did he mean by this?

GuP Final Chapter when?

https://youtu.be/3e6EkNXCC0c?list=PLHdovJQ9RzgtdYnxbkMBzpTYNw3Jz1pAH

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>>377952475
>Lmao reload speed doesn't mean shit
>Lmao autoloaders weren't used because it slowed down the loading process!
I am wondering what he means too.

>>377952475
I never said that, you sperged out saying "If firing speed doesn't mean anything, why did tanks go wtih autoloaders" and you instantly assblasted yourself because autoloaders slowed down the loading process in exchange for alot of other advantages (and disadvantages). But stay mad, t. assblated world of shitter.

>intentionally doesn't mention T-72

+bonus points for when you completely lose the argument and try to damage control as hard as possible.

>>377952582

Superior song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8bEZcw3-wM

>>377952994
>>377952582
Out of my way, shitters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njhv9My2tls

>>377952938
You insisted up and down across several posts that autoloaders saw very little use and were entirely unsuccessful ("unsuccessful one-try at tanks by frogs" "most remotely resemblant system used in the BMP was unsuccessful too" "no modern MBT uses this system") and when presented with a list of modern tanks that do, in fact, use autoloaders you're sperging out about 'muh reload rate' once again.

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Rear Armor Hit! Rear Armor Hit! Rear Armor Hit! Rear Armor Hit! Rear Armor Hit! Rear Armor Hit!

>>377941931
i fucking love this stupid thing

>>377952427
Destroyers for Bases pretty much sealed the deal

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>>377951619
>>377952994
Have they finally done an anime adaption about Finland?

>>377953223
>you're sperging out about 'muh reload rate' once again.
You forgot to say he is sperging about it but in the opposite direction.

>>377952427
I mostly agree, though I'm not sure if the Battle of Britain was ever really going to be a winnable situation for Germany so I'd maybe say their fate on the Western front was sealed sometime prior to it.

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>>377953349

Not exactly, but the movie of Girls und Panzer has a Finnish team driving a heavily modified BT-42. Their theme song is Sakkijarven Polkka. Also, the Finnish Embassy is one of the sponsors.

>>377953669
>Finnish government giving money to a chinese cartoon because they acknowledge Finland's existence

You can't make this shit up. God bless poor old Finland.

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>>377934379

Back to >>>/k/ with all of you

>>377953223
>slowly change course of argument while samefagging support

This is your last (you) shitthunerer, cherish it.

>>377953808
>>377953669
Also, the Finnish team only helped to steal food from the University team. And all their tanks are stolen from the Pravda school.

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>>377953808

You do realize Finns are massive weebs right? I think the Finnish Embassy Twitter has a Strike Witches picture on the page.

Japan just loves Finnland for some reason. You'd be surprised on the amount of Finns in Anime. Wasnt Ann in Persona 5 half Finnish?

>>377953848
Rocket artillery is my fetish

>>377954046
>Finnish Embassy Twitter has a Strike Witches picture on the page.

Finnish autism never ceases to amaze.

>>377939834
That data doesn't mean all tanks we're destroyed in tank vs tank battles. German great AT weapons and mass produced cheap expendable Soviet tanks

*breaks down*

>>377953808
>Big thanks to everyone who donated
>we were able to raise 82 300 euros, enough to start building protective cover
>Big hand for foreign donators
>We are particularily flattered from big portion provided by hundreds of Japanese - without them this hadn't been possible

GuP literally save the tank museum.

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>>377953669
>>377953808
>alright, lads, we need to make finland relevant and well known around the world
>let's promote ourselves by sponsoring a japanese anime movie
Atleast we are known for something

>>377954343

What's charming is that Japs were willing to pay hundreds of euros just to play a kantele beside the BT-42.

http://newsfromhameenlinna.blogit.hameensanomat.fi/2016/09/29/lousy-warmachine-turned-into-a-pilgrimage-site/

>>377954390

Well, hey you guys gave us Simo Hayha, the most badass sniper in history.

Finland is right up there with Poland on European countries I jack off to when reading about military feats.

>>377954214
>doesn't mean all tanks we're destroyed in tank vs tank battles.
Yeah, but will any slavboo admit the T-34 break down even harder that the "unreliable" Panther and Tiger tanks?

>>377949009
>>377949137

Plus the soviets had pretty much unlimited amounts of soldiers. They could afford to throw waves of unarmed men at the germans until they ran out of ammo, and then send in one last armed wave to kill them. They conscripted everyone who could stand. They picked a few random farmers, let them learn how to use a T-34 tank in a couple of days and then send them away.

>>377936180
>Psst... Hey kids..
>Wanna get blown up by a german tank?

>>377954787
>They conscripted everyone who could stand

If your job was related to the war effort you would not be drafted. Read a fucking book instead of spouting memes that you read online.

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>>377936617
*unblocks transmission*

>>377955232
Don't you mean *shifts gears*?

>>377939873
The Sturmtiger did have some use, as it was meant to take out heavy fortifications, well defended buildings and bunkers with a single shot.

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Jagdpanther anyone?

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Too many shit tanks ITT. Time to change that.

>>377934379
>all that money wasted on doing literally monster tanks because Hitler was autistic
Would Hitler be that kid who woud literally spend all his time upgrading weapons in a RTS game and then losing?
>tfw I did the same

>>377955601
CUTEST

>>377955896
Centurion is patrican taste.

Why did APHE ammo fell out of favor?

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>>377956132
You mean sexiest.

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hallo fellow amerikaner kameraden can you show me the way to the ammo depots?

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>>377956132
I like them a little younger.

>>377956216
Fin stabilized sabot rounds took over in terms of anti-tank ammunition as they are more accurate and have greater penetration.

>>377956102
>Hitler
It was Ferdinand actually.
>B-but Hitler approved them!
And Stalin approved shit like the KV series.
At least Hitler didn't force tanks named after himself like Churchill and Stalin did.

>>377956102
Its hard to out-manpower the country with two and a half times your population. "Quality" was the only thing the Germans could bet on.

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>>377951031
British army DLC when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvjgWqPBis

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*ruins your economy*

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>>377939873
I like it when anime satisfies my love for stupid German tanks

>>377956656
BEEE
SEVENTEEEN
BOOOOOMBR

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>>377956656
Stand aside

>>377954725
>Poland
???

>>377956886
>feeling depressed
>enlist to be a tail gunner

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ayy

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>>377956894
He's sneaking Poland next to Finland to feel relevant

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Nice reinforced position you have there. Shame if something were to happen to it.

>>377937056
>what is operation paperclip

Tankautists are the best entertainment

>>377957547
Google it

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>>377936617

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"A bullet hit it once...bounced off of me with just a scratch...."

>>377934379
>Play Tiger h1 in War Thunder when it has very few if any advantages over what it consistently faces
>Get called a Tiger shitter constantly because of how much it used to steam roll in the past
Tiger had a has a hard life now.

>>377957738
*breaks down*

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>>377934379
>This is what nazifags actually believe

Laughing all the way to the Motherland.

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>>377957305
Great taste.

>>377957938
Is that Ankou team's Panzer IV?

>>377957738
*gets teleported into the future to fight space-age russia*

>>377951497

>Stormtroopers, reporting for.... SCHEISSE, FIRE!
>Jawohl, attacking zer Armor, with my rifle
>MOTORCYCLE IS FAAAAAAAACKED
>AIRBORNE, WANNA GO BLOW UP HQ?
>GUNNER, POINT THE TURRET AT THAT CAMERA IN THE SKY
>IGNORING COMMANDANT, HE APPEARS TO BE THE VICTIM OF SOME SORT OF ENEMY NERVE GAS
>heart or head, either way Jerry's dead

>>377951476
>Fails to damage you
>Crew have to hand crank the shitty turret round
>Breaks it own suspension

Man that thing was terrible.

>>377955342
tens of thousands of mallets were produced to go with the T-34 series tanks because the workmanship was so poor. It must have been so shit driving them.

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>>377956383

>>377957846
>Russians lost 90% of their tanks fighting the tank with 20mm cannon.

>>377959379
Germans lost 100% of their tanks

>>377951497
I have hundreds of hours on the first games and all its mods but still havent even tried the second. I cant really bring myself to

>>377959596
Same.

>>377959497
How come there are german tanks in military museums then?
Checkmate Vladimir.

>>377959250
Heh

>>377959873
because they broke down so often it was easy to capture them

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What are some good tank games that aren't F2P Online Only trash?

>>377960074
BF1942

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>>377960041

>>377959873
I still find it funny that tiger 131 (the only working tiger in the world) was captured because 6pdr shells jammed the turret and gun rather than actually hitting the engine or immobilizing it.

>>377960074
World of Warcraft

>>377960220
It was more to do with the Tiger 131 crew being comprised of complete dickless pussies who ran at the first sign of trouble and failed to scuttle their tank.

>>377960364
Too be fair the driver and gunner both got injured and without them its not gonna be a very effective vehicle.

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WURRRRRRR
WURRRRRRRRRRR
WURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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>>377960041
At least they didn't lost 100% of their population by throwing them at MG fire.

>>377934379
"Major contributing factor to Germany's failure in the war"

>ftfy

>>377960251

https://youtu.be/AU0u6SCAXWI

>>377960364
To be fair to them they'd had enough of bullshit in the desert and knew that the Brits would treat them well as PoWs.

Scuttling the tank was the least of their concerns.

>>377953262
I fucking hate bofors

>>377960542
Stop, please, that guy is stupid, but don't fall to the bait

>>377959596
First CoH is better, specially with mods.
That being said, CoH2 had some stuff that i wish CoH1 had
>Able to tell your tanks to move in reverse.
>Mud and snow slowling your troops.
>Points having capture areas and able to tell infantry to capture them from the minimap.

>>377957305
What is this from?

>>377960074
Valkyria Chronicles.

>>377960839
>units can jump over fences
>true sight

>>377960929
D-Day, a mod for RA2

>>377959250
> soviet helmet
> m39 tunic uniform
She dun fucked up

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>>377961058
Son of a bitch, I could never get RA2 to run for more than five minutes without crashing.

>>377960934
>Infantry completely dominates tanks
Brah please

>>377953262
Jesus Christ the bofors is a PTSD machine in CoH2

>>377960839
you can capture on the tactical map in COH1 and I think capture areas are worse than flag capping. In COH1 capping with weapon teams means you disable your heavy weapon, with engineers it means you cannot use your flmaethrower, and with riflemen it means your attack power becomes worse. This means that you can force someone to stop capping to be able to fight your troops effectively, rather than just set up a machine gun while capping.

The gazillion small changes COH2 made however are kinda a big deal
>sniper no longer has cloak without cover
>see all your troops at the top right
>AT guns can limit themselves to tanks
>non vanilla factions arent cancer
>reverse move
>LMG42 is useful
That said, the graphics in 1 are a lot cleaner, commanders are cool rather than shitty, and americans and wehrmachts are a lot more different and cooler. I wish relic made a final COH1 patch that includes the UI and movement improvements though

>>377961494
Brits were pretty bad on release imo

>>377938842

No, the Tiger I was a stopgap design meant to get the 88mm mobile, and this is especially apparent when you compare it to the T-55 and later post-war tanks. The E-series was meant to be where Germany got all of its reliable heavy-hitters, but it didn't have the time or resources to switch production before it got leveled to the ground.

>>377934379
"Sure let me this hide this... giant gun"

>>377934379
*destroy your path*

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this is the best allied tank in ww2. fight me

>>377961494
>you can capture on the tactical map in COH1
I admit i forgot about that, but is a extra click compared to COH2

>>377934379
>Ah tiger she drinks fuel like it's beer

>>377954737
T-34 was pretty gud as far as tank tech goes tho.

>>377958843
>free percussive maintenance tool with each tank
I see no problem

>>377962692
It was the opposite of it.

>>377958843
meanwhile tiger need tow truck because it always breaks down or stucks in mud

>>377963010
>esl
Slav?

>>377937056
>this damage control shilling as seen on reddit

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>>377961137
>m39
>scalloped pockets without pleats
I don't have a clue what that thing is supposed to be.

>>377945786
You are a bad joke.

>>377963010
>tow truck
you mean another tiger. tiger pull tiger. bonus tiger, now have 2 tiger.

>>377964425
then the 2 tigers broke down. now need 3 tigers

>>377951306
*10 shermans appear behind you*

>>377953848
FUCK YOU CALLIOPE

>>377963127
I like this

>>377964802
>now need 3 tigers
no, make better tiger to pull two tiger. tiger 2

>>377963127
kek

>>377964835
>Ain't nothin personal son

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>>377960540
>Game only lets you have 3
>Roll one out
>Light it on fire
>Engineers pick it up and roll it out into the field
>Repeat
>Grenadiers spot artillery for 35 munitions
>Every single nebelwerfer on the map werfs for 35 goddamn munitions at once

Blitzkrieg is broke as fuck and I love it

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Best tank coming through.
> So good the Soviets edited them out of photographs.
> Didn't waste time killing 5 guys in a metal box, instead focused on killing 30-40 guys at once with a flame thrower.
> Armour thicker than a Tiger.
> Gun able to turn fully within the chassis turning circle, allowing it to go into urban areas and forests.
> Highest crew survivability due to incredible armour and actually adding escape hatches.
> Better gun than any medium in the war.
> Cheap and reliable.

>>377966827

Lindeybeige browses /v/?

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>>377966827
>cant climb a hill

>>377966827

Why did butthurt commies edit them out of pics, and what pics? Why would they need to edit britshit pictures for?

>captcha = cuckstool heras

>>377967089

Wrong.

he hill climbing ability of the Churchill is also legendary. Many times in Italy and Tunisia the Churchill’s would climb hills the Germans thought were utterly tank proof. On one occasion a Colonel Koch of the Herman Goering regiment, transmitted this radio message:
“… been attacked by a mad tank battalion which had scaled impossible heights and forced me to withdraw!”
Finally the 4th Grenadier Guards in Churchill’s were the unit that set the record for fastest advance of any armoured unit in Europe.

>>377967365
>anecdotes
cute

>>377967667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c188jV47ns4

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>>377967962
>>377967667
casually blown the fuck out

how much of a fucking nerd do you have to be to know all this shit about old tanks that nobody uses anymore? this information is boring and useless.

>>377937056
german engineering was well known long before ww2 or even ww1

is Steel Division: Normandy a good game?

>>377966827
> better gun than any medium in the war

Sure, if you ignore the 76mm M1 and the 85mm Zis-S-53, and the 90mm M3

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>>377969978
ur mom is boring and useless

>>377970642
Churchill is also not a medium tank, so is pretty shitty comparasion

>>377966827

>top speed: 5mph

lmao desu

>>377950923
this thing was fucking hilarious in men of war

anti-armor shots would just bounce off its retarded good front armor even though it looks like it should fold over a stiff breeze

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>>377969978
>being interested in something as a hobby is useless

sure thing my man, next you'll tell me eating anything but bread, water and some multivitamins is useless.

>>377963127
>blackjack
nice

>>377967962

I'm not the guy you are replying to but that is a bunny hill in almost ideal conditions (no mud and perfect tracks in the hill already) and it still slipped.

It's just basic math. You had an extremely heavy tank (40 tons) and a very underpowered engine, and narrow tracks. There's just no way it was gonna manage anything but the lightest of inclines. Even then in ideal conditions.

>>377963127
HIT EM LOW AND KEEP ROLLIN TO THE BEAT NO BREAKS
SLOW IT DOWN THEN ACCELERATE

>>377969978
A lot of fun things are useless, for example using 4chan is utterly useless but much like reading about tanks it's interesting to somebody

>>377963127

THE ACTION JACKSON

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rate my tank model, /v/?

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>>377972494
too busy/10

>>377972494
found submerged in Russian permafrost/10

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>>377972494
WASH YOUR TANK!

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Is not understanding/caring about logistics and efficiency the ultimate sign of strategic autism?

>>377972494
Did it come sealed in a block of ice?

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>>377972924
>>377973263
>>377974261


>/v/ doesn't understand winter camouflage

Well I guess i'm not surprised.

>>377974197
Is there one for Slavboos, Bongboos and Burgerboos?

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>>377974197
>Let's have lots of different, impractical, difficult to maintain, and expensive to produce weapons and vehicles with no interchangeable parts that won't function in the russian winter
>Winter uniforms? lol don't worry this war will be over in a few months

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I think I fall in love with the Tiger II. She look so sexy.

>>377962985
T-34 was one of the best tanks ever made. I know you are jealous that your shitty tanks got btfo by mass-produced slavshit but you should just stop posting.

>>377974998
To be fair, if the Nazis won, they'd have the ability to edit out all the stupid shit they did afterwards, like the soviets.

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*BLOCKS YOUR PATH*

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>>377976604
>

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>>377976405
>T-34 was one of the best tanks ever made.

PFTAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, you were serious.

>>377942583
>88
>penetrating t44

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>>377976405
It was an unreliable piece of shit that only has a reputation as a good tank because everything it had to fight was even more shitty and unreliable. If it had to fight something like the Sherman it would have been completely BTFO.
>>377976383
Best looking tank of the war if nothing else.

>>377936597
All of their tanks' numbers were small. It was the German methodology of over-engineering. The Allies didn't believe they were everywhere, they simply understood they were a force to be reckoned with because of their superior range and armor.

They were remarkable machines, when they decided to work. Which could be said for most German tanks.

Why can't relic make anything that isn't trash these days?

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>>377977001
Yes?

>>377977048
So it was a piece of shit that only won because it did its job fucking perfectly. Gotcha. I guess my kitchen knives suck because they can't cut elephant hide.

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>>377974759
Look at the cocaine falling from it, really, where did you took it from? Thats no snow, thats coke.

>>377976405
>no radio
>1 man turret
>no turret basket
>window glass for optics
>inside is smaller than the crews' food ration
>to turret basket
>Soviet technician can't even make its engine run at Aberdeen over 73 hours
>zero armor quality control
>welded by ice-age cave people
>gearbox could only be shifted by the hulk
>fuel stored in the crew compartment
>penetration kills 75% of the crew
>no commanders cupola
It became hallway decent after they spent the entire war improving it, but it was hardly even the same tank at that point.

>>377956894

Poland saved Europe from the Ottomans during the 17th century. Look up Polish Winged Hussars and the Siege of Vienna.

>>377977628

> Drive into the water, lose all your crew to drowning.

> Driver over wooden posts, only lose 50% of your crew to terrible suspension and lethally bad crew compartment.

And people say slavs aren't smart.

>>377977191
not gonna be "that guy" but T44 armor is pretty good
of course at very close range the KwK 43 can still penetrate it, and it is a threat to the T44
but at the normal engagement range both would have a hard time, since the early 100mm ammo were rather poor

>>377977628
American tank designs were truly amazing.

>>377963742
Nice response to his post faggot.

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>>377966827

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>>377977431
>did its job fucking perfectly
Like hell it did. When it had to fight Shermans it Korea it got ripped apart.

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>>377972494
Wayyy better than my first attempt with a 1/72 Cromwell lel
Teach me the ways of modelling senpai

>>377966827
No. The 6lbr was not a particularly good gun and the QF 75mm was the standard British gun on the Cromwell cruiser tank. The QF 75mm was comparable to the American M3 gun, but inferior to the German KwK 40 (L/48); both of which were the main guns on the M4 Sherman and Pz IV. In an age where focus on mobility an firepower was becoming more and more important the Churchill remained slow and under gunned. That said the hull was converted into many interesting engineering vehicle designs that were pretty cool, AVRE was the best.

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Make way for Flakpanther.

>>377978292
Thin your paints!

>>377978241
So? Was its job to destroy Shermans?

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>>377978734
Yes?

>>377978292

If I had any advice to give I would just say get bigger kits. I've never done anything smaller than 1/35th. It's the sweet spot of not frustratingly small and not obnoxiously big. Personal preference, but I prefer Tamiya and Dragon kits.

Besides that, just watch lots and lots of youtube videos. Just about every tank has a youtube vid of someone constructing and painting it perfectly. Buy some cheap tanks and practice painting different schemes on them til you can make a passable one.

>let's compare 1:1 these things with wildly different production and maintenance costs

>>377942083
>test examples sent to americas failed in alternate climates
>barrel depression required to clear chamber
>shell management and reloading measured in calendar months

Enjoy your glorious 'meh'.

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>>377953848

>>377978619
Haha I got pretty mad when I realised I should've done it. I got the kit as a gift and seeing as it came with paint but no thinner I assumed it would be fine
Bad idea

>>377978975
No. It was not created to destroy Shermans. That was a very good guess. Gold star.