how skillful are you at doom

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>>377576703
If you play on any difficulty below Ultra-Violence, get off /v/ right now.

>>377576703
>Doom
>Skill

whats the appeal of doom?

Reminder that Brutal Doom is better

>>377579143

You murder demons. Can't go wrong.

>>377576703

what's up with these shitty sprites?

also i beat go2it and go4it on ultra violence and now i can spreedrun both

also i really like plutonia 2.

>>377579037

Depends on the .wad

Some .wads are better played at lower difficulties and Ultra Violence is for the truly hardcore. Doesn't mean I won't play it, but for the optimum experience, you should play it at the difficult the .wad author dictates.

>>377576703

i can mop the floor with the original 2.

never finished 3.

kinda can enjoy the 4th but not really.

i feel like TNT & Plutonia were pinnacles of retail release.

>>377579143
pure unfiltered fun

>>377579143
It meshes your lizard brain, where you run around and shoot shit at blazing speeds, and your logic brain of figuring it the map and the keys and stuff, and it does it really well, almost unparalleled

>>377579390
>i feel like TNT & Plutonia were pinnacles of retail release.
in terms of the official releases, yes. but the community made megawads a la scythe 2 et al kill plutonia

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>>377576703
Truly jpg.pk3 is Cacoward material.

>>377579143

Kill demons fast with big guns.

>>377579745
its not as fast as you faggots pretend. in fact the only thing doom is fast in is doomguy's movement speed. everything else is slow. enemy reactions are slow, enemy projectiles are slow. even shooting guns is slow. that disgusting input lag in the shotgun trigger will always feel horrible.

>>377579939
You're playing it wrong. Fast movement speed is ALL YOU NEED. If you aren't running at full speed at all times only bothering to shoot things that are blocking your path to the exit you're playing it in beginner mode. Doom is built around speedrunning from the start, that's why they weren't afraid to make enemies respawn when they adding in nightmare. You aren't even supposed to try to kill everything past the first few playthroughs.

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>STILL hasn't hacked his 3ds

Meh. I've barely played anything beyond the original games.

Have much more fun with (and am much better at) Quake 1.

>>377580521
I've got movement and strafing on left stick and turning on right stick, with left trigger as sprint and zL and zR (the inner triggers) as weapon switch btw. It's pretty cozi.

>>377580506
i can beat each episode on nightmare single playthrough without dying you retard. i've even beaten doom 2 on nightmare. i've been playing the game before you were born at its release, well before it became the meme that is now since /vr/ was created and you halo babies caught wind of it. im just pointing out the only thing fast in doom is doomguy's movement speed and that's a fact.

>>377581245
*nightmare the game is faster with enemy reactions/speed/projectiles, but UV and lower is cake.

>>377576703
I've beaten UV, haven't properly tried Nightmare.

>>377579143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOObGjCA7Q

>>377581245
You sound like one of those twelve year olds that tries to impress older players online by saying how much of a bad ass adult they are and just ends up looking like a huge fucking faggot that's obviously twelve years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>>377579143
Its visually satisfying to shoot a demon and see them explode.

What .wad or .pk3 should I go with today?

>>377582584
do-it.wad

>>377579143
It was atop down shooter that was converted to a FPS so the rules of those games applied like proyectile speed, movement, different enemy patterns and such, but now turned into a dungeon crawling-like maze in FPS

Also fucking dope ass setting and graphics and music. It was a match made in heaven

>>377582584
Stardate20x7

>>377579143
game mouse aims for the player allowing people to strafe or kite and beat the game with ease while feeling hardcore because they're playing on the hardest difficulty of a classic

Yeah! I only play Brutal Doom though cause it's the best way to play Doom. It's the way it was meant to be played!
Okay honestly why does it suck so much? I played about 40 hours of Doom and a shit ton of mods, and Brutal Doom just doesn't feel good. I had more fun with mods like Trailblazer and Russian Overkill than I did Brutal Doom. Is it because everything is so fucking fast?

>>>/vr/

I beat some of the top ZDaemon players in duals before. I've also never touched Brutal Doom in my life.

>>377583442
Duels! I meant duels!

>>377583351
>>>/out/

>>377576703
>skillful
Guess I'm a master at Strafe n' Shootman.

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post webbums of your favourite wads

>>377580506
Are you serious? People like you are the reason why Doom 4 combat is literally running at full speed in circles around an arena. That was never the essence of the original

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>>377584087

this wasn't a good run

>>377584137
>muh slaughterwad

Garbage

>>377584273

Post your favourite wad crybabby

>>377584301
wos.wad

>>377584332

The second half of Whispers of Saturn was good. Overall better than the boredom i'm sifting through right now (Hellbound.wad).
There's literally nothing wrong with a well designed slaughter map that makes you think about approaching a setpiece fight with strategy. Judging a whole genre of maps on low-effort garbage doesn't make sense if you actually apply that principle to the type of maps you like.

>>377579143
For me, it's the level design. Most maps in Doom are intricate and extremely pleasant to explore and become familiar with them, search for secrets, etc.

Killing demons is neat and the gunplay is satisfying, but to me that's not the highlight of the game.

The game is also very well designed, from the bestiary to the weapon arsenal.

>"Ran out of data in zlib stream" or "Bad syntax" when startin some wads

What do

>>377584979

Try a different source port. You can run pretty much anything with GZdoom and almost everything else with Zandronum.

I'm not skillful at anything

but I'll play any wad at maximum enemy quantity because that's more fun, to survive I'll either quicksave every fucking second or flat out mod the mod to keep max enemies but reduce their damage and health, if I'm too lazy I'll give myself infinite ammo and weapons that haven't been acquired

unless I'm playing vanilla doom in GZdoom, then even nightmare is still easy

unrelated, I have a gtx 1070 and winter's fury framerate still drops enormously in certain areas, goddamn

I play with keyboard only on Nightmare.

>>377585090
Thanks

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Quake is pretty cool too

>>377576703
Used to be able to beat Nightmare Mode, so well above average I guess?

>>377579143
Best movement in a 3-D game and THE most satisfying weapons in any FPS.

>>377580521
What's the purpose of that rubber stick on the right side?

>>377579192
Brutal Doom is the best alternative to vanilla Doom. It's amazingly fun for variety, but nothing can really top Doom's "out of the box" experience.

Although honestly ketchup gore mod is arguably THE best form of Doom.

>>377586950

Camera tilt for games that support it.

>>377586862
It's also great. I'm not sure which one I prefer.

I've been playing through shooters over the past couple of years and Doom and Quake are easily my top 2.

>>377586862
Vanilla Quake is literally perfect. I couldn't find a single flaw when I played through it.

>>377579143
Nostalgia

>>377587013
Oh really? The stick doesn't move at all so I thought it was just some support for when the DS is closed or an extra grip for your thumb.

>>377586862
What sourceport is this?

>>377579143
it's "good game-feel" boiled down to its purist form. A mix of frantic speed and methodical clearing that is necessary to switch between on the fly, depending on the enemies you're against in that moment.

The beauty of the design lays in the enemies.
Basically it works like this: The easier it is for an enemy to damage to you, the less health THEY have.

The enemies with hit-scan/instant attacks are relatively weak with a small amount of health (with the exception of the Spider Mastermind). Enemies with dodgeable projectile attacks are much tankier. They need to be kited/strafed around to defeat. The weaker enemies that have instant attacks need to be funneled one at a time around corners, or picked off while peaking cover.

>>377576703
I play it almost every fucking day. Sometimes without mods, sometimes with mods. I've been playing it since Shareware days, I think I'm as good as you can be at it.

>>377579143
see >>377583018 and >>377587081 for the inconvenient truth

>>377587201
>I think I'm as good as you can be at it.
>Singleplayer-only autists actually believe this

Head onto any multiplayer source port and get proved wrong

>>377587310

I love that purple, looks cool.

>>377587201
>I think I'm as good as you can be at it

Are you speed run level?

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>>377585438
>doom
>quicksave
literally never seen anything more disgusting on /v/

>>377579143
dodging

>>377585438
IDDQD

>>377587242
I don't think you would need to go all the way to Doom in order to find games that aim for you while making you feel badass for no good reason.

>>377587510
nah, I wouldn't go that far, then it would be pretty pointless

>>377579096
Depends what doom, if they mean the first two, you are right, if you mean DOOM3, then even less skill is required, but the new doom, is somewhat skillrequired(i mean, even the easiest dificulty is harder than the other 3, still easy though)

>>377587734
You can turn it on to recover health and then turn it off immediately after.

Any way to get this on my vita?

>>377587626

> goingdown.wad
Patrician taste

>>377587838
DOOM has been ported to pretty much everything, a simple google will confirm it

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>>377587838
What CAN'T you get Doom on?

>>377576703
A good way to tell if a Doom fan has skill is to use Plutonia and Alien Vendetta as a base, and not piss easy Doom 1 and Doom 2.

>>377587734

type 'buddha' into gzdoom console. It'll stop you dying at 1hp, that way you can continue where you would've normally died, but realise how much damage you're realistically taking. If you feel guilty you can just let yourself die by turning it off.

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My mfw when I probably (unironically) am the best player in this thread

Feels strange man.

I played so much online Doom, survival, ctf, duels, it's hard to justify the time wasted.
Could've done something more productive with that time.

>>377587328
I crush multiplayer, boy-o.
>>377587404
I was competitive with it for a while, but to be really honest I just stopped enjoying speed-running Doom. It's really not fun to me any more. Maybe I just did it too much.

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>>377576703
Not super. I play everything on UV but I give myself saves after 100 kills or picking up a key. Ancient Aliens E3 is currently giving me a killer case of the shits.

Still the best FPS

>>377588554
>Maybe I just did it too much
Pretty normal to experience that sort of burnout. Speedrunning only stays fun if the community surrounding the game you're running is competitive and fun to be part of.

>>377576703
If you can't beat each episode of Doom on UV without dying EASILY then you are a complete retard. Yes that includes episode 4. Doom is not a hard game by any means. You kids are fucking retarded.

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>>377588787
Let's see you do it right now. Livestream, Doom Ep4, UV no deaths. C'mon, tough guy, put your money where your meme is.

>>377584636
Is Hellbound that one .wad that's an alternate imagining of Doom 2? I didn't mind that one.

>>377588613
I'm burning through WADs and am have trouble finding non-slaughter maps. I don't mind it to some degree, like in Going Down, but that also had some cool small maps with clever design as opposed to the big arenas later on. Ancient Aliens was visually really cool, but I got tired of the slaughterfest. I need to find more WADs like "Doom the way id did" or whatever it was called. Classic Doom pace with only occasional huge swarms.

>>377588752
Most of the community is pretty good. I simply realized that while speedrunning I was wishing I could just actually play the game.

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>>377589084
It is damn hard to find quality wads that don't devolve into slaughtermap memes all too quickly. I've done my time in Hell Revealed and I just don't think that's the best kind of gameplay Doom has to offer.

If I had to make suggestions, some of my favorites include Void, Pirate Doom, and of course the inimitable Chex Quest. None of them find themselves in the same "what novel new ways can we find to flood the room with revenants" that many fan wads do.

>>377579143
fun

>>377589323
I've been meaning to try Pirate Doom. Thanks friendo, I'll take a look at all of those.

So what I see mostly repeated is that original Doom is very fast and frantic which is never the feel I got from playing. So then I thought I must just be a shitter and not actually have played it right yet these webm's:

>>377587310
>>377587626

are really slow. Slower than modern games like Doom 4 or Samurai Warrior.

What is it then?

>>377576703
UV is THE difficulty in doom.
Anything below is too easy, and the hardest is just not fun.

>>377581504
KEK

>>377588554
>>377587328

i am top 5 doom 2 duel cup player in the world, AMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dqoFvhE9g

>>377590402
Favorite weapon?
Favorite map?
Spiciest secret tactic?
Favorite single player wad?

>>377590082
People watche decades of speedruns and now thing the game is all about fast 24/7

>>377590402

How do you feel being top tier at a comparatively very easy arena fps?

>>377590402
lol the fuck is this

>>377591012
This is the side of doom that you pathetic /vr/ "muh zdoom wad folder XD le singleplayer!!11" autists don't know about

>>377588554
>I crush multiplayer

If that's true then respect, too many people thinl they know shit about Doom because they play singleplayer wads and nothing else. T b h I'm still triggered from reading comments on pre-release articles about Doom 4 saying "doom was always a singleplayer game why does it need multiplayer", fucking scum

>>377591321
shut up faggot, that video looked like fucking trash. Why would you ever play that over Quake or UT?

>Hurr it came out before!!

It might've been nice for the time but now it's invalid.

>>377579192
Brutal Doom suffers of terrible balance and shitty coding.
As flawed as a mod like MetaDoom can be, at least it gets balance tweaks to the point it wont even need maps on its own as it could still be played normally through vanilla maps.

>>377591780
>It might've been nice for the time but now it's invalid.

Ironically this is something that a competitive CoD player would say about Quake or UT

>>377583256
The mod is what happens when someone thought DOOM wasn't cool enough, so they tried to make it "cooler", only to make you realise it goes from "too cool" to "holy shit calm the fuck down"

>>377592106
And they'd be wrong.
Try to defend no jumping, no aiming, slower paced arena shooting.
Gimme some good points Doom Multiplayer.

At least Quake had 3 valid Weapons instead of 1.

What does anyone think of Samsara?

>>377592531
Never played it. Heard it's good.

>>377592650
Shame about the Caleb thing

Doom doesn't require any skill so...

>>377582314
I like this video so much

>SPIDER Mastermind
>Only has 4 legs

>Play DOOM back in 95 with keyboard only
>Still easy as fuck on Nightmare
Play a real game, kiddos, like Call of Duty multiplayer.

What can't you play DOOM on?

>>377593242

>play a game that doesn't require aiming at all without a mouse and find it easy

Impressive anon.

>>377576703
I finished og and spear of destiny on ultra violence with just the keyboard because we didnt know one could use a mouse or that its actually better. Friend got internet and told me people are playing wasd with a mouse, i tried but used qwes and mouse (still do). Our Doom LAN parties ceased because i dominated everyone and they refused to use m+kb.

>>377590402
This looks no where as interesting as Quake MP at all.

>>377591780
Oh boy, Quakefag is here!

>>377591979
>shitty coding.
Doesn't matter a flying fuck for players that play the game instead of looking at the code like an insecure FOSStard

>>377591979
>MetaDoom "anon"
Oh man, do you seriously show up in every Doom thread to shill your mod? Christ, fuck off.

>>377594060
>Lightning in BD 64 was basically an enemy
>Latest version doesn't work withouth a patch from someone
Doesn't matter at all

>>377594143
Oh no, i have standards or things that are made for free, because i actually care about quality.

>>377594152
>meh console 64
Well there's your problem.
No problems on DOOM and DOOM 2.

>>377593952
Quake is a fucking meme series as far as multiplayer is concerned. Doom has always been better. Even Quake Champions is just a shitty lite version of Doom 4's MP

>>377579143
All the fun of shooting shit without the tacked on modern cancer

>>377594247
Don't forget to shoot above the Baron of Hell's head, in case isn't tall enough
:^)

>>377594143
Mark, Project Brutality is better than your shit that doesn't even work on latest GZDoom versions because you misspelled 0.1 as 0.l in code.

>>377594410
Reminder that Mark has a fucking Patreon, meaning he's get money while using somebody's work.
This is YandereDev tier.

>>377594296
Your tastes are incredibly awful

>>377587190
I play it in Darkplaces, but I think the one shown is Quakespasm or one of the more classic ones.

Arcane Dimensions (its a map/mod) just looks this good even without messing around with the graphics

>>377594527
Your favorite series is incredibly awful

Why does everyone play UV instead of Nightmare?

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>>377579305
>actually spoiling your enjoyment of the wad by reading the author notes instead of just loading and UVing it

>>377591124
You should probably play a real game like Quake Live instead of Shotty Spam 3D

>>377594457
Except that BD is good

>>377594628
Nightmare was designed to be unfair, which is why there's respawning enemies.
This could lead to a bug in D2 where the exit in Dead Sample can get blocked by the moving platform with the respawing of the ArachnoTrons.

>>377586862
For me a lot of the early 3D FPS games haven't aged well in regards to combat.

Build games like Duke Nukem and Blood just feel a lot more responsive.

Sure Doom also hasn't aged as gracefully but there's SmoothDoom which imo makes it fucking amazing

>>377594410
>oh shit someone called me out on my blatant peddling of my mod!
>quick, where's the nearest boogeyman?

Ahhh Metanon, never change.

>>377594825
>tfw even Kinsie hates the only MetaDoom fan

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>>377594368
Got more?
>>377594410
Seems to work using GZD 3.0.1 just fine.

>>377587013
It's a typical Laptop nipple

>>377594947
Good to see the brazilian is actually learning from his mistakes

The only times I've played Doom were the piss-poor SNES port and a flash version of it on some random site. Which version of the original should a newcomer to the series start in?

>tfw terry wads still get made to this day
feels good man.

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>>377595116
Go to /vr/

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wtf i hate metadoom now

Because of this thread I just replayed Knee deep in the dead. Fucking solid.

Just started playing the original doom on hurt me plenty and I die occasionally. Is it really supposed to be super easy? I find it kind of challenging.

>>377595021
It was never an issue, you're just shit or you're just to incompetent so you try to further blame BD even though you were wrong, called out, and lost your already stupid argument.

You're on the level of retardation similar to those that get lost in SMetroid because they don't know how to use morph ball.

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>>377595214
It's like he wants his mod to flop.
And i thought Mark had an ego, but holy shit.

>>377595324
Analogies aren't true arguement and neither are metaphors.
If you want to win the arguement, sick to it and not whataboutery.

>>377594825
I don't even like metadoom, but Mark can't code for shit.

>>377594296

Answer my honest question >>377590894 you egotistical shitcunt

>>377595393
>Gets told how wrong you are
>Oh no... better reply with a not-so-witty-hurr-durr-brazillian-learning
No you're just retarded.

>>377595336
>mod to flop
>free mod
>flop

>>377595468
I didn't even mention brazilian shit in >>377595393, which makes this even better.

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>>377595528
read
>>377595021
If it wasn't you, the fuck off. That comment was to prove idiots like >>377594368 & >>377594410 that they're just shit at the game if they can't even get a single PK3 to work.

>>377595634
>That post the modder made when he said that something great is about to come, followed by an image of a swastika

>>377595661
No need to get so brutal, Mark

>>377595661
The you wouldn't reply to >>377595393 in the first place, faggot

>>377595751
>Anonymous reply to a specific post
>Anonymous reply to that specific post
>Anonymous reply to (you) post

Do you interrupt random people and argue with their conversation in real life as well?

Seek help.

>>377595857
>Expecting a normal and proper arguement on /v/ in the first place
When you try to look better than others, you'll only look worse.
It's your own fault you got mad other people talking about mods for a 2.5 game about a nameless man killing flying meatballs and pink minotaurs because they killed his pet rabbit

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>>377595965
Oh yes... Let's just let the retards govern the site instead of trying to make it a decent place for talking video games without muh baiting, trolling, autismposting.

>>377596092
If you ever have trouble at telling whether or not someone is pretending to be retarded, it might be something wrong with you rathen than them
>Muh historical figure getting quoted pic
It's like you want others to think you're smarter, only to end up being a pretentious fuck instead, holy shit.

>>377595442
Well that's not in question, Brutal Doom is fucking comical. The blatant tangent to "casually" slip MetaDoom into the conversation was too bald-faced to go without comment, though.

>>377596240
Apparently, MetaDoom has a concept that just happens to attract autists, which is why even Kinsie is glad that it's not so popular, but it didn't stop it from his Tumblr getting filled with autistic screeching.

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>>377596229
It's better to give them the benefit of doubt, and hope they are not as retarded and insecure as you.
>pretentious
Ah yes, the go-to word lower scum uses to soothe their inferiority.

>>377596357
>He's still doing it

>>377596401
Let your mom take care of you.

>>377596463
He even uses "your mom" jokes

>>377596489
It was not a joke, let her use the computer already. You're just wasting electricity.

>>377596617
He still milking the mom thing, what's next, age?

>>377587815
So the new one is the only one which requires skill, because it's the only one you've played. That's just desperately pathetic.

>>377596708
>Fake 3D game where all you do is mash buttons to get to the exit
>Skill

>>377596229
>It's like you want others to think you're smarter, only to end up being a pretentious fuck instead, holy shit.
Anon this image has been around for years, it's not exactly some 2obscure4you quote

>>377583256
The reloading ruins the pace of the game and the extra sound bits are so poorly recorded, mixed and integrated that they kind of spoil the ambience. Also having NPC helpers is completely unnecessary.

>>377596708
I'd say the hardest Doom is either Final Doom, because of the enemy placement or Doom 64, because of the Unmaker's upgrades

>>377588531
>reddit spacing
Fuck off

>>377596675
So you're living with your dad?
>age
Considering you brought that up must mean you're insecure about your age as well.
Still living with your parents in your 20s?
No? 30s?

Why don't you toss another hurr durr brotal dome can't this and that claim?
Always fun to to see you making a fool out of yourself.

>>377596857
Why do you keep making shit uo about people you're mad at?
Are you projecting? Because i'm just some dude, not a mirror.

>>377596814
>all you do is mash buttons to get to the exit
I'm sorry, I don't speak spanish.

>>377596838
>reddit spacing
Nice

Meme

Which is better, D4D or D4T?

>>377597095
You suck at this game

How did UV become the "default" difficulty setting instead of HMP?

>>377597095

wow are you a pro in 4chan

>>377591124
Theres literally no aiming involved wtf is this cod for grampas lmfao

>>377596914
Trying to hide the fact that I hit a nerve on you?
Since you can't bring up any more lies about what Brutal Doom can't do means there's nothing that's wrong with it.

>>377597127
Because people learned that you can now use the mouse to aim and remap keys from , and . to strafe even though that's been possible from the start.

>>377597095
Holy moly!

>>377597217
I have at least one more lie about BD:Brutal Doom is good

>>377597127
Hurt me Plenty is "normal mode"
Ultra violence is "hard mode", and spawns all the monsters that have to be spawned on a level. easier levels might reduce amount of bad guys or spawn new health or armor items.
Nightmare is just UV where monsters periodically respawn

>>377597283
Good one.
That's true, because it's not good, it's great.

>>377597332
>Getting this mad at someone fucking with you

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>>377597363
>mad
Oh no, I'm so mad right nao~

>>377597507
Of course you're not

>>377597542
Good boy, finally understanding.

>>377597569
Good girl, sucking a lot of cocks

>>377597095
damn son

How long until Zenimax shuts down GZDoom and the other source ports?

>>377597629
If I was one, how would that be an insult?

Are you on the level of "uhhh, disgusting, their kissing, nasty girl bacteria!"

>>377597825
Because apparently, you either didn't read the full post or would love to suck a lot of cocks.

>>377597825
>he thinks its normal for women to suck many dicks

Wanna know how I know you're a fucking numale?

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>>377597869
That doesn't answer the question. Are you afraid of girls?
Do you use that type of comment as an insult often?
Sounds like yet again, a case of...

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>>377597981
If i was afraid of girls, why would i call you one?
Words are words, not bullets.
And you didn't even deny the cock sucking part.

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>>377598041
I don't deny it because you used it as a bad attempt of an insult, not as a question.

Though you should probably valuate your thought some if dick sucking is a thing you like to bring up out of nowhere.

No point talking to you anyway, you're just masochistic and enjoy it when people insult you with your own "insults".

I have more enjoying things to do.

>>377598332
If by enjoying things, means sucking cock, sure.
Just don't do it in front of Pence.

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>>377598407
Keep projecting, just don't let others get hit by it.

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>>377576703
I finished 1&2 without quicksaving on Ultra-Violence. I also finished 3, NuDoom and Final Doom.

>>377598447
We get it, you like cock.
Just go to Syria, i bet they'll welcome you there.

>MetaDoom doesn't have the heart from the Doom 3 expansion because it's hard to program
>When the thing in general is a stun bomb
>MetaDoom even has shit that can already stun enemies
Explain this Metababbys

>>377579143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZGJVUSevSQ

What are actual good mods?

>>377576703
Easy mode.