ASL IS IN TWENNY MINUTES BOIZ
BISU VS. SSAK, BO5
twi tch tv/gsl
https://gaming.youtube com/channel/UCK5eBtuoj_HkdXKHNmBLAXg#tab=1 (youtube version and VODs of games)
DISCLAIMER: To the mod who was deleting/moving threads the other week, this is NOT a general thread. It doesn't belong in /vg/, these are only made twice a week when the games are on, and it dies when they end, and only for the duration of the tournament. General threads go 24/7, this is only up for 3-4 hrs a week.
Are the old washed up pros still taking dives to give nobodies free passes to make it last longer/more interesting?
Or is it at the semis/finals by now?
friendly reminder
>>376892768
I would say we're at the stage when shit is beginning to get real, so probably not. Considering we have Mong, Shine and Ssak all in this round though. Anything could happen. I'm personally hoping for piglord to make it to the finals.
>goes out his way to create a hard group so he'll get swapped out
>doesn't get swapped
>2-nils his group anyway
ssak is a leg end
give me your power bros. I don't know if I can stay up for the games on my own passion alone
>>376892689
awwwwww yis
SOMEONE TELL ME PIGLORD IS PLAYING TODAY
>>376892823
I lost interest a few weeks ago when it was obvious that the old pros were just throwing games blatantly just so the brackets/tournament wasn't so predictable in some desperate attempt to make the non pros look decent.
I realized it and I couldn't stop seeing it after that.
I had hoped after korea time ended years ago on GOMtv and sc2 came out that if they ever did bring BW back and stream it for americans and shit like that, that they would drop the whole pros taking dives for money thing, but it's obvious they haven't stopped doing it.
It's not as interesting when I know the pros are always gonna win, with maybe 2 planned "upsets" at the ass end of the tournament.
Only real reason to watch is Tastosis.
>>376892876
11:50am
just got up
huge bowl of cereal for breakfast
I am ready
>>376892950
nope, he's playing shine another day
on the bright side that means there's a decent chance he'll get through
Ssak vs Bisu TODAY
Piglord vs Shine 16.5
Soulkey vs Best 21.5
Flash vs Last 23.5
>>376893064
is it a Bo3 or Bo5?
>>376892950
piglord is playing tuesday.
I will be doing a pigshindig when he beats shine and then bisu to face flash in the final
>>376892791
tesagi
>>376893118
all matches from now are Bo5
>>376892992
I doubt it, when those players were caught taking dives in 2010 there was a pretty big shitstorm over it. I legitimately think it's just that easy to make a huge mistake and lose unexpectedly.
I would reccomend you watch the previous match before this with jaedong, ssak and last, it was the best series of the whole season, especially the ZvZ and TvZ at the end.
>>376893260
>when those players were caught taking dives in 2010
tell me more about it
did anybody see flash's reaction to realising he was going to have to play Last in the Ro8? It was fucking priceless. All that careful planning and group building, and he gets shafted by the stargirl.
>>376893260
No dude. Earlier in the tournament, it was extremely obvious that the old pros were taking dives and making rookie mistakes just to give the others a pass, then while in losers, they NEVER made a mistake again.
It happened several times in a row week after week.
Like WEEKS ago, maybe pools actually.
I remember someone "beating" Jaedong and I remember someone "beating" another old pro I believe.
It was super obvious that Dong was throwing. He didn't even care.
>>376893370
>tfw stargirl will never fondle your starballs
>>376893370
link
>>376893324
There was a BW one in 2010 and a SC2 one in 2015.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Match_Fixing_Scandal
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2015_Match-Fixing_Scandal
Most of them got fined in the 10k US area, some got suspended sentences and 50-100 hrs community service
>>376893464
while tastosis go "doodladoo" in the background
Streams up nigguhs
>>376893547
mine's in korean
>>376893670
check OP for twitch link
>>376893670
go on twitch/gsl
>>376893476
https://youtu.be/TDz2jbFN7YA?t=20m28s
don't think the timestamp will embed properly but it's at the end.
>>376893670
The youtube channel forgot to put up the english version or something
>>376893750
what the fuck
>>376893750
I like it how he's sitting in there in his shorts/boxers
>dem bantz from bisu
>>376893842
>>376893870
Flash's channel is full of weird shit. Yesterday was a video of him giggling watching Larva go full on batshit rage on his keyboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bqMzfGnTJ4
ITS STARTING
>>376894018
>when you are so rich you just stream yourself watching other streams and giggling like a retard
>>376894027
TERRAN DOMINATION
>Ssak chooses a love song because he's about to fuck bisu
>BIsu starts with 2 probe scout proxy
what's happening?
CHEESED LIKE FUCK
PROXY
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? BISU WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
THE FUCKING MADMAN
WEW
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
just fucking 3gate in my base
>"Hey Senpai how do you want your first match?"
>"JUST CHEESE MY SHIT UP"
550 minerals well spend
J U S T
>the one time looking at the resource tab would have been useful
>they don't show it
fuck you
Why is there no resource tracker on the top right?
It was there past days
proxy gate into hidden dts classic protoss
I know I'm late to watching Brood War stuff, but that beginning was nuts.
>>376892791
>number of terran players somehow goes up from round of 24 to round of 16
>>376893432
I'm sure dong THrew himself out of top 8 then, duh
the absolute state of Protoss pro-gaming
Train wreck after train wreck
>Raised his barracks
lmao what the fuck is going on
wtf is this game?
OMG
THIS FUCKING GAME
>>376894497
seeded players joined in the RO16
THIS FUCKING MATCH WHAT IS GOING ON
I don't even know what's going on amymore!
TOP FUCKING KEK
SSAKFAGS BTFO
comedy fucking gold
THAT SPIDER MINE
lmao dat mine
loving every second
are these guys drunk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmn9asN-8AE
>>376894497
Flash was seeded into ro16 and none of the ro24 terrans got kicked out
these mines tho
IT'S A WORKER GENOCIDE
SCOUTS INCOMING
this dude mech game is trash.
just placing mines and not baiting.
>>376894847
>building Scouts
>EVER
whats the handle of the interviewer chick again? she's like B+/A- on iccup right?
>>376895008
>implying this game isn't already a massive clusterfuck
>implying scouts wouldn't be the cherry on top of it all
>>376895008
>Implying Bisu wont find a way to make scouts viable.
WE COOL BRO
THIS GAME IS LIT
>>376895008
>implying bisu isn't going to win anyways
might as well add insult to injury
sSak's multitask game isn't too good.
>>376892853
>goes out his way to create a hard group so he'll get swapped out
What?
>this is only the first match in a series of clusterfucks
Spider mines are so much more interesting than widow mines
Why are they not in sc2 instead
gg incoming
>>376895298
>Why are they not in sc2 instead
couldn't recreate the weird dragging AI
Bisu's multitasking is just too much for Ssak
>>376895298
they're the reason terran is considered overpowered right now in bw
>>376895429
No, they're one of many complaints
Oh fuck, shit, did I miss anything?
Bisu is on tonight.
>>376895506
Three gateway strat in terran base from the start
>>376895506
you missed an absolute meme opening by Bisu into complete clusterfuck
>>376895506
meme builds
REFUGEE MINING
>>376895560
>>376895559
>>376895506
i've seen bisu do off the wall starts like that in old recordings
gg
bisu loses first game
>>376895458
yes but repair, floating buildings, siege splash, and scv health isn't that much more crazy than what zerg and protoss have
a 75 mineral unit that can lay 3 free mines that deal a lot of splash damage is
wtf is the clump of red at 11 o clock
Why did bisu spend 10 minutes doing absolutely nothing then faceplanting into that engage?
NICE
THROW
What the fuck is this game
What's going on
I need an adult
seems like bisu is toying with this chump
why doesn't ssak float a command center over to where bisu's templar tech is? is he afraid of recalls?
i don't regret staying up to watch this
>>376895735
templar archive + warpgate
>>376895735
dt cheese buldings
>>376895735
gateway and citadel for a dt hop over the minerals
>>376895773
Oh yeah?
Vultures are good units
3-1 bro he's playing the long game
>>376895773
Toying for first 3/4th's of the match, win every engage. Then sits on his ass doing nothing, building nothing, expanding nowhere.
>countdown till the end of the ad break
neat
>>376895868
i mean it seemed like it at first, he had 3 opportunities to push a win but sat on it and then the longer the game went on the more he fucked himself.
This was hilarious.
How did Ssak managed to scout the proxy?
that game was pretty fucking cool even if I did miss the start. I can't believe bisu couldn't finish that in the middle there.
I've never watched Starcraft before, but that seemed like a neat game.
>>376895974
are you new?
that's been there forever
>>376895996
>How did Ssak managed to scout the proxy?
Bisu showed him by coming into his main with a probe from a funny angle
if he had delayed that for another 10 seconds game would have gone differently as bisu only got 1 berserker out
>>376896039
Not him, but I only just noticed it too.
>>376896091
>berserker
bitte geh
>>376896091
>berserker
How did you make that mistake, I'm interested. Is the zealot called berserker in a translation?
>>376896164
It's called berserker in the german version for some reason. There are some other weird changes like scourges being called terrors.
>>376896162
maul
grad erst aufgewacht
>>376896164
yes, in German see >>376896162
>>376896032
starcraft is a great spectator sport, too bad its so hard to get any meaningful level of skill
If sSak wins this I'm gonna have to drink tomorrow in his honor.
>>376896091
>berserker
kek
also, why exactly did Bisu guide ssak into his proxy? Isn't just pushing with 6 zealots or something more deadly-effective instead of forcing SCV pull and gaining a slight economical edge? He fucking gimped himself by starting with 3 probes mining in the first place, why not push that cheese into overdrive?
>>376896210
Really? Didn't even know they changed the names.
What is a templar called? or a Reaver? I'm not even sure how you'd translate Reaver.
THESE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>376896241
It's fascinating how BW is a better spectator sport than SC2 despite being so goddamn old.
SC2 is really, really hard to appreciate before you have a high level of understanding yourself. I didn't fully appreciate SC2 progaming until I got diamond myself and studied a fuckton. But BW is fun to watch no matter what level your understanding of the game is.
oh god
WHAT IS GOING ON
great night
The memes continue
SHOW ME THE FUCKING MINERAL AND SUPPLY COUNTS REEEEEEEEEEE
I'm going to die of a dairy overdose boys.
BEE
BEE
ESS
Well, are we gonna see a 3-0 sweep for ssak? Or will bisu hold it?
>reverse cheesing
>>376896210
>for some reason
Probably because of muh antisemitism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealots_(Judea)
>>376896307
I don't remember a lot. I believe templars were just called templars and reavers might have been "Räuber"?
Also SCVs were called WBF (short for Weltraumbaufahrzeug).
>>376896373
apparently something with 1.18 is ass, so they reverted to an older version
ssucc got fucc
FUCKING LOL
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
>it's bisu's turn to cheese
lel
If he sent that SCV down south from the BBS a millisecond later he would have won
>bbs into gg
What the fuck, I leave for 5 minutes and the game is already over?
>>376896656
the power of cheese :^)
>>376896432
>Weltraumbaufahrzeug
>>376896307
>What is a templar called? or a Reaver?
templar = Templer
reaver = Räuber
Räuber is like predator, bandit, raider, brigand
>>376896712
>implying that's not a gloriously German word
it's also an accurate translation of space construction vehicle
>>376896750
that makes no sense for a reaver
>>376896432
Does this mean german players have to push B W instead of B S? Do hotkeys change in language versions? I have no idea. This raises a lot of questions.
>>376896819
I don't know. I only really played the German version as a kid when I was shit at video games.
>>376896210
>tfw you swapped the German audio files in because you like the voices better
I don't understand a lick of it but it's still pretty cool
>nicht gesut miniralien
>ja sir
>>376896819
yes in the french version you build probes with f or something, which is a big advantage
>>376896803
bandits, raiders and brigands are people who reave so it's not that bad
Certainly better than the literal translation of "Plünderer"
Plünderer sounds like a pastry
>>376896803
The word reaver is already a bastardised version of raider.
How the hell did he saw the SCV I just send the Scout on a map corner and I'm done with it
>>376893157
fresh piglord OC
will spam pigshuffle gif when he oinks to victory
>tfw best of 5
>at least 2 more crazy games coming up
>>376896880
>tfw there's Japanese audio for SC1 but not for Brood War, so even if you use the audio, the BW units speak English while everyone else speaks Japanese
>>376896983
is it from sc64?
>>376896963
glorious
>>376897027
Beats me, but I applied it on the PC version. I should try and find it again.
>>376896335
I think the highly developed map making are one of the key factors that sets SC1 apart from SC2.
That and the fact that because there has been no rebalancing tactics from ages gone by are still relevant today. Once a trick is in the playbook it stays in.
Control groups and inefficient pathing are the single biggest factors though, easily. Deathballs are boring. I cannot stress that enough. In SC1 just watching the minimap is entertaining because there are so many things happening all over the place.
Why are they saying this map is hard for protoss? I'm not familiar with BW meta, I'm a single player babby
>>376896335
>BW is fun to watch no matter what level your understanding of the game is
true
>be me
>become normie
>get gf
>still watch BW
>just got done fucking her
>she wants more
>not now bitch, it's Sunday morning, Korea time!
>she watches BW with me
>miss out on Tuesday
>want to watch on Saturday
>she's sleepy, I tell her I'll be at my PC
>she says "but you're not going to watch starcraft, are you?"
>why, you want to watch as well?
>"yes!"
WHY SSAK WHY DID YOU DO THIS
dragoons OP
This is some spicy micro
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
BISU IS A GOD
>>376897221
Protoss need more bases against terran so they can keep out producing them since late game terran units out perform protoss late game. The map is pretty hard to keep more bases like that since its pretty easy for both to just take all their bases. The map is also fairly open so carriers are harder to use here.
BISU GOD
A LITERAL GOD TASTELESS
LITERAL GOD
G O D
O
D
Jesus I forgot how bad SC2 is.
400 APM in action
out-fucking-clicked
>he sees the shuttle
>he just GGs
Fucking amazing micro.
>>376897221
protoss can't take any bases because terran can just park his tanks in the middle and be two screens away from anywhere in the map
BISUU
Hot damn.
>>376897428
is this real or a meme?
Games like these is why I still watch BW.
>spider mines are overpowered they said
>spider mines make it impossible to push they said
>you need detection to clear minefields they said
B I S U
>>376897507
not gonna lie
before this game I kinda forgot why people considered Bisu to be the best toss out there
>>376897221
protoss versus terran always wants to have more bases, and usually you want to expand away from the terran so they can't take your expansions off you. All the expansions on Camelot are very exposed and easy for Terran to push onto.
Unless protoss stop Terran from getting out on the map like Bisu did there.
>>376897492
It's real. Things like this is why they are pros and we are shitters.
>>376897492
Bisu has the highest effective APM of any Protoss by far, yes. Arguably of any player at all, although JD is a contender.
one step forward, one step back, game over
>>376897695
One step forward and two steps back
This kind of game can never laaaaast
>>376897665
there is a certain word you used there
"effective"
APM does't mean anyhting if you are just clicking randomly on the map
>>376897492
At least during mid and late game there's mad apm going on. Microing a couple of units early and macro at base is still intensive but nowhere near 300.
>>376897765
Yes, that's why I said 'effective'. Nobody has a truly accurate count of 'effective APM', but Bisu and Jaedong are widely considered to have the highest.
Just started watching. How many games did I miss?
are we gonna get to game 5
>>376897847
bisu is 2-1 up
SC2 casts were more fun to watch
>>376897847
3 matches, first was cool, second was 5 min failed cheese, third was very cool go watch the replay.
>replay misses the best part of the push where Bisu just slams right in and rapid-fires out 4-5 mines
Sad!
>>376897847
you missed 3 FUCKING LIT GAMES
>>376897323
what a HOMO
>>376895724
>Not just using 4 dragoons to kill off all the spider mines.
>watching starcraft
>minding my own business
>suddenly piano music starts
>look out of my window
>someone set up a piano on the street beneath my apartment and started to play
>>376897902
Nah, tasteless doesn't really have any meaningful knowledge in sc2 so he's almost purely there to fill dead air with banter and stories. Artosis is based as shit in sc2 too though.
>>376898007
>you realise it's terran three
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b4lTeENvyM
>>376898007
Is he at least any good?
I'm next to a graveyard, so I get live funeral music every few days.
sSak please
>>376898040
I watch these streams for months but now I don't know when Artosis or Tasteless speaks
>>376898147
spooky
>>376898147
not loud enough to hear over the stream
I'll check him out after bisu crushes ssak
Is shield regeneration higher than zerg regeneration?
>>376897847
You're going to enjoy those VODs
>>376897428
>>376897492
>>376897657
>>376897665
>>376897830
I always wondered how well rhythm games apm would translate into rts skills.
https://youtu.be/DejoHL4WPdg?t=37s
>>376898235
yes, by a lot
>>376898375
APM is largely speed of thought, not speed of hands. Anyone can just slap their fingers on a keyboard and get like 1500 apm, but it takes a staggering amount of practice and hard works to play starcraft or a rhythm game at 500 apm.
>>376898040
I truly miss hype as fuck, solo cast until your brain melts, korea tiem Tasteless.
You don't see it as much now but Tasteless was (and somewhere deep down still is) ridiculously knowledgeable about SC1, spotting all the tiny nuances in the way pros play and keeping up with crazy action happening all over the map.
If the SC1 scene grows again we might see him return to form.
>>376898487
rythm game is reacting to what's happening on the screen
high level rts is acting, actively making decisions at similar speeds
>>376898487
Obviously, which is why I'm wondering how skill in rhythm games would translate into starcraft and vice versa. At least you have the mechanical skills.
SSak shitting himself now
>>376898156
kek
wtf is bisu doing?
What even happened?
did Bisu throw it?
>>376898735
bisu choking hard
LEGENDARY T H R O W S
F
>>376898748
not really throw, but he fugged up and the hard contain was coming with no escape
>>376898735
How are siege tanks not a 3 supply count it amazes me
From Bisu the God to Bisu the Pleb in just one match!
>>376898748
At least it feels like it, maybe he's ben payed to drag it into a 2-2 to make it interesting.
Get hype for TvT finals!
Someone tell me who is tasteless and who is artosis in this pic
>>376898881
Tasteless is the handsome one.
>>376898881
Right and Left respectively.
>There is now a chance that Demi final witll be Ssak vs Shine/Mong
>>376898881
Artosis is the one with mega brow and nose.
>>376898881
in case of doubt just check the nose
>>376898881
Artosis is the nerd baller
>>376898793
>a sober Ssak going for a hard contain
I'd get nervous too
>>376898881
Artosis is the daddy
>>376898881
Their names are next to a picture of them in the op
YT stream is full of Koreans. They are watching the same stream? With English commentary?
Speaking of Tasteless, what's Day[9] up to these days?
Bisu dropped that fucking reaver right in the middle of the tanks and died instantly.
That attack was a a debacle. If he'd held until he had enough momentum to keep up with terran he would have had a good shot. Instead he got fucking RECKED by that tank goliath push.
>be korean
>get paid to stream a shitty phone app
>>376898995
t-thanks!
>>376899025
I see him play dota once in a while, but fuck if i know for the rest
>>376899025
Hearthstone and dota I believe.
>>376899042
Watching Korean streamers really pisses me off
I feel like they love playing awkward, autistic games with PS2 era graphics
>>376899025
Getting that dirty hearthstone money
He¨s planning to do a BW series when remaster relases so he can cash in on his old fanbase then exit the scene again
>>376899027
the bust could've worked, but the reaver blunder fucked him up.
shits just tight
>>376899025
he's going to make bw videos again around remastered
It's 2017 and we're having live Brood War tournament threads. Feels so good, lads.
I can't believe Bisu just choked so hard on that game.
>>376899106
Sounds like late 90's Japan, but with streaming.
it's 2017 and siege tanks are still spammable pieces of shit
How the fuck do we stop this?
>>376899106
Those are the best games though, the 90's and early 00's were the pinnacle of computer gaming.
Why don't we ever see snow terrain maps? they are the best
>>376899390
Imagine practicing on that 12 hours a day
Your eyes will beg for sweet death from all the bright white
I kinda miss the days when BoxeR played Terran.
I should rewatch some of his games.
>>376899390
because they hurt the fucking eyes like mad
>>376899223
the tank is the lynch pin that any TvP rolls around. They're strong but they can be wiped out like nothing else. You drop 15-20 speed zealots/cracklings on a group of tanks and they evaporate like candy floss in lava.
>>376899390
pro players started complaining about sore eyes
>>376899223
If you nerf tanks at all no one would play Terran. BW balance is fragile as fuck
is this the first ro8 series?
>>376899435
>>376899468
I dunno. I really enjoyed Tau Cross and even if it used snow sparingly it was still nice to look at.
VANISHING REAVER
that poor reaver
BISU, get your shit together
Holy fuck
sSak might knock out Bisu in ro8 of the ASL
Fucking bisu
SCOUTS INCOMING HOLY SHIT
>>376899847
lol no
>ssak scanning carriers
rip bisu
It's fucking over, Bisu will lose.
>cloaked Wraiths
W E W
Are there any units in BW that are never ever used in competitive games?
>>376899986
>>376899847
Also Quens
>>376899986
Scouts
there is quite literally never a reason to use scouts
Casters: That reaver is stranded and going to die
Bisu: Hold my beer
SAY MY FUCKING NAME
>>376899986
Dark Archons, sadly
>>376899986
Dark Archons, Scouts, and Infested Terrans are virtually unused. Add Queens and Valkyries to the rarely used list.
>>376899986
scouts, queens, dark archons, and infested terrans
>>376900080
Valkyries are standard in zvt with the bugfix
>>376900079
>>376900080
DA was used last week
>>376900080
Dark Archons got used last week actually.
>>376900015
>Quens
>implying
they saw plenty of use first season of ASL
"This is a mistake"
Tasteless sounds serious as fuck right now
That's gg
Paper planes lol
Carriers = instant win
>banking on wraiths
>2017
the random reveal by the dragoon fucked Ssak up too hard
>>376900213
yeah it is
too many carriers
ssak threw this away
>best protoss in the world almost memed to death
Ssak should've hit the carriers, when they were attacking the bottom center Expansion
and then go straight for the juggalar
>no goliath
>wraith
APOLOGIZE
Can someone give me a quick recap, just joined this, damn me trying to fix my sleeping schedule
ssak should have attacked when the carriers were blowin up his scvs. he didn't even have any observers with them at that point.
>>376900361
Bisu just doing Bisu thangs.
>>376900253
>>376900326
If he had pushed earlier when he had a larger army he could have pulled it off. Letting him turtle up didn't work out.
>>376900361
Memest games of the season
give me a korean gf
Tasteless' "this is a mistake" really made me fear for bisu
What a fuckin' series.
God damn that had me biting nails for most of those games..
sSak has really improved in the last 6 months, he has become one of the top 3-4 terrans, I'm hoping he can do better next season because he was a beast this season.
>>376900441
You have to send the money first.
>>376900443
It would've been if sSak wasn't fucking stupid.
i'd let bisu cum in my boipussy no homo
>>376900079
>>376900080
Dark Archons are absolutely used. Not a mainstay or anything, but they have a legit purpose. Valkyries are also used quite often.
Devourers, Queens and Ghosts fall into the 'very very rarely used, but still sometimes useful' category
Scouts are by themselves in the 'absolute shit and no reason to make one except for BM' tier
Even nukes can be semi-viable if the map is really weird.
So is it over for today or are there going to be more games?
Because I really need to sleep.
>>376900443
Tasteless hasn't sounded that grave in a long time, reminds me of the good ol' days
>>376900527
It's over, next games are 2 days (or rather, 1 day 22 hours) from now.
>>376900510
I wish I was so good at brood war I could use them and just meme on everyone
Why are scouts still so expensive if they suck so much?
>>376900503
get in line
>>376900510
What makes Scouts so uniquely terrible?
>>376900527
its over for today, come back in 2 days for mong vs shine
>>376899986
Scout, Ghost, Infested Terran are basically never used.
Dark Archon, Queen, Guardian, Devourer is rare to see, but happens sometimes.
Valkyrie use is getting more common.
>>376900441
cute!
>>376900527
you can sleep, next games are on tuesday.
>>376900527
that's it
>>376900579
Oh good, I can go to sleep now.
Bowlcuts
Bowlcuts as far as the eye can see
I'm glad all of Korea decided on a national hairstyle
>>376900661
No. They expect one of us in the wreckage brother.
>>376900621
expensive, slow, shit damage
>mongshine
I'm not ready for this
>>376900621
They cost a fuckton to build, and on top of that, they're total shit without speed upgrades, and even with upgrades they remain meh. If you want anti-air you get corsairs or dragoons.
>>376900751
MY BODY IS READY FOR THIS
Was this the only game today?
MONGMONGMONG
PIG LORD PIG LORD
>>376900080
>>376900104
>>376900510
>>376900636
>Scouts
I'm pretty sure Bisu and a couple of other protososs have used Scouts in a couple of his game, and not just for BM.
Liquipedia should have some games.
Still, that's probably the unit with the least amount of use among pros.
>tasteless loves us
>love is an infinite resource
>>376900621
Their only advantage over Corsairs are only against the big expensive air units and psionic storm handles that well. Their biggest contribution is as existing as a theoretical threat to prevent battlecruisers and carriers from ever being built.
There used to be this weird map that I remember Flash using nukes on (not for BM), where Zerg would try to take island expansions, but the expansions could be nuked from across the island.
>don't compare Starcraft and Starcraft 2, they're both the best games ever made
what did they mean by this?
>>376900905
>Just because your wife has a sexual relationship with other men on the side doesn't mean she loves you any less
>love is an infinite resource
>>376901114
"We still need our paychecks for casting SC2"
>>376901157
this
>>376901157
worth watching for tastosis bants still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MywIw67oYE4&feature=youtu.be&t=2337
Is Mong a new player? I don't remember him. He's solid. He's going to steamroll Shine.
Shine shouldn't even be this far. It was Flash messing with the brackets so that he got the easiest path forward. Shine lucked out.
>>376900979
I'm pretty sure nukes get used on a semi-regular basis when a TvT goes into a very late game stalemate situation.
>>376901725
Link? I have doubts anyone would invest in nukes over massing up battlecruisers and the stalemate being broken by whoever has the better yamato aim.
>>376900601
scouts were meant to counter big air units like carriers and battlecruisers. they're so good at it no one even tries making them against protoss, so there's no reason to actually build them.
>>376901784
I'm not gonna go looking for VODs at 6 am in the morning, but if you look up Ghost on liquipedia it should have some games, but they're probably going to be old.
>>376901139
Tastless would never cuck you anon. He just wants you to get hype about high level play.
Re-watching this. They don't have a mineral counter.
This means they went back to the previous version right? Why was that? More bugs found?
Switching back and forth with versions in the series is pretty stupid. It starts with one version, it should end iwth it.
>>376901814
I've admittedly never tried it, but my gut instinct is that equal resource mass battlecruisers would absolutely murder mass scouts.
>>376901970
>meme around in campaign with cheats to only build scouts
>they fucking suck
>>376901725
that's battlecruisers. nukes are only used because they can kill a hatchery in one hit or a nexus with emp.
>>376901970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqKQT_J7PE
Notice that Scouts are way cheaper on gas, time and supply.
>>376902281
BCs were not focus firing
>>376901503
It doesn't matter. Whoever wins, we win.
>>376902519
Neither were the Scouts, because it's an AI battle.
Anyway, un-upgraded scouts do like 30 DPS vs the BCs 20.
Smacking down BCs and Carriers is about the only thing Scouts are good for, but they are pretty good at that, way better than Corsairs.
>>376902519
Neither were the scouts, and 4 scouts are far cheaper than 3 battlecruisers. Alternatively you can look at their stats, and see that 2 scouts very convincingly outclass a battlecruiser.
>>376901157
There's no doubt Artosis enjoys SC2 greatly.
Tasteless doesn't seem as bored as he was during the first few seasons.
>>376902281
Huh, didn't think that would happen. I guess that means scouts aren't useless after all - they still don't get made, but they're useful as a theoretical counter. I guess that makes zero truly useless units?
Infested Terran, maybe? If the opportunity presented itself (a Z going queens who just happens upon a burning down CC in good position), are Infested Terran worth making vs T?
>>376902281
You didn't account for Yamato Cannons.
>>376903875
The problems with Scouts is that Protoss are so good at destroying capital ships that nobody makes capital ships against Protoss and that's all that Scouts are good for.
>>376903891
Even with Yamato, 2 Scouts beat 1 BC, even if only barely.
And you'd have to be some kind of god to clone Yamatos effectively against clumped scouts.
>>376904089
They call Flash God, does that qualify?
>>376904472
Maybe, Flash can pull miracles out of his ass.
Although he is more of a macro player.
>that vod
>that failed game 1 cheese
>that failed game 2 countercheese
>that game 3 micro
Holee shit
what does this sign say?
>>376906196
Presumably
>tenkuuu
>tenkuuuuuu
>what a bunch of camping queers
>come fight me fgt
>>376906196
Making tanks on a hot day makes dragoons into ice cream.
Something like that.
On a hot day
Make tanks
Dragoons ice cream
The risks says
Why sing.
And the dragoons make ing ing sound.
>>376908639
Or,
Tanks on a hot day makes dragoons into ice cream.