Adachi >>>> Shido

>>376703753
>a cartoonishly-evil politician who wants to rule the world because reasons
wat?

>>376703753
>serious life problems that you can understand and relate to
>"THE WORLD FUCKIN SUCKS AND ITS GAY"

Masterful writing

>>376703753
>implying Adachi was the villain

Dumbass

>>376703753
AEYYYEVERYBODY

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>>376703753
Just because you can't relate to Glorious Shido doesn't mean he's cartoonish, mate.
Helps that we're both LAW.

What was this guy's fucking problem?

>Some random brat cockblocks me from raping a woman in public which would be career suicide
>Decide to systematically destroy his life and call in many favours to get him expelled, blackmailed, stalked and potentially murdered just out of spite

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>>376704485
Please explain to me Shido's motivations.

I finished P5 fairly recently and I can't recall a damn thing about him. One of the most forgettable villains ever, if it wasn't for his Armstrong-ripoff boss fight.

>>376703753
I didn't think Atlus could make a game with more shitty anime cliches than P4, but they proved me wrong.

Adachi was a shit "villain". Shido was way more intimidating and the buildup was amazing
>dat calling card on all stations
>DONT FUCK WITH THIS PRIME MINISTER
>5 phase boss
>CREATING RIVERS IN THE DESEEEEEEERT!

against

>one triggered rapist that couldn't fuck a highschool girl and shove her ass into a tv
>1 phase boss where he is AAARGHH FUCK U KIDS THE WORLD SUCKS AAAA CRAWLIN IN MY SKIIIIN

Nah

>>376703753
>It's literally Rusty Venture
Dean, Hank, go away, I'm busy.

>>376704596
To cruise the nippon as his own ship or whatnot

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>>376704584
It's a shittier version of this.

>>376703753
Shido didnt want to rule the world he was a narcissistic control freak who wanted to make Japan in his own image.

His foreign policy idea wasnt half bad.

>>376703753
>cartoonishly-evil politician who wants to rule the world
Anon this is the most realistic villain possible

>>376703753
>relating to 4's main villain
/r9k/ plsgo

>>376704634
But that's what makes Adachi so great. He's a pathetic, huge loser of a manchild that can't accept that he can't have his way

>>376704826
His foreign policy consisted of strong arming foreign nations with the metaverse

>>376703753

>I literally don't know how real world politicians are actually like

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Literally all the targets besides Futaba and Sae were one dimensional evil fucks

BORING

>>376703753
>regular working adult with serious life problems that you can understand and relate to
There's a whole board for you retards why must you continue to shit up /v/?

>>376705037
No it was to use the metaverse, but not to necessarily strongarm. A few untraceable mental shutdowns in key places would be all you need to influence other nations.

Like I said, not a bad idea.

>>376705040
The Japanese haven't had a non-beta national leader since... I dunno, Ieyasu.

>>376704729
>pic
I didn't expect it to be as great as it was, honestly

>>376705068
Madarame was actually a bit of a contested character. Sure he was a vain, lazy piece of shit who claimed used his students' work as his own; but sidequests showed him in a different light.

Was Mementos Depths the best dungeon, thematically?
I thinl I like it on top of any other dugeon in any Persona game, it just hit too close to home
>all those people chained into their own comfort zone
>they talk how easy it is to stay quiet and obey instead of fighting for their futures
>that sad music that whispers you to give up
>they insult you and make you seem like an idiot for not being in a cell like them
>get mad as fuck when you try to force them to move on by destroying the Grail

its... beautiful fuck

>>376703753
>Aiming for the top
He's actually the one with enough charisma, grandiose schemes and a realistic ambition in a game filled with small fries tier villains.

>>376704584
>Some random brat cockblocks me from raping a woman in public which would be career suicide
He was trying to force her into a car, wasn't he?

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>>376704596
It is in the name.

He is a piece of shit-o

Btw is that the most blatant naming to characteristic ever?

>>376704826
His foreign and domestic policy was "have Akechi kill everyone I don't like" and "have someone kill whoever people pay me to kill". Fucking Skeletor was a more round and interesting villain.

>>376705641
Funny, Mementos Depths was centered around petty real human issues instead of grand criminal activity like most of the rest of the game. It was tbe most P4-like dungeon in the game, and BY PURE COINCIDENCE I'M SURE it was the best one.

>>376705863
Forcing her into a car to do what?

>>376706015
>His foreign and domestic policy was "have Akechi kill everyone I don't like" and "have someone kill whoever people pay me to kill"

Just like real politicians

>>376706015
If you cant see the beauty of using an untraceable alternate dimension to assassinate or mentally manipulate key foreign figures for the betterment of your own country then you're a fool.

>>376706048
Play shogi?

>>376706015
Using the Metaverse to eliminate potential threats without consequences is by far the best option anyone would want given the opportunity. You having no capability to comprehend that is irrelevant.

>>376706015
Dungeons in P4 sucked

>>376705380
Gonna forget what he did to Yusuke's mamma?

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>>376706736
Nothing
He did nothing

>>376703753
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2017/05/12/manager-poisons-part-time-worker-in-japan-because-of-poor-work-ethic/

>Implying this kind of guy doesn't exist in Japan

Shido was pretty fucking retarded for an evil corrupt businessman. Like, way out of the fucking line of incompetence.

>do career damaging stuff
>"I'm gonna make this country great because people are stupid"
>don't check for the fucking body, even if there's a supposed dead cop around
>don't put tails on every single person involved in the Phantom Thieves since you knew about it, even if you know all about them
>HE got elected, and if he got sick, he barely has a party behind him (do the people that wrote this garbage know how a democracy works?)

It seems like the writers of this just wanted to do plot twists for the sake of it, like some imbecile 12 year old with his fanfic.

>>376706736
He hesitated too much when calling for the ambulance because he was tempted by the idea of stealing the Sayuri this naturally led to her death. He then adopted Yusuke out of sympathy for the child and upon seeing him grow and his talents blossom he had the idea of gathering a bunch of young talented kids and forcing them to make works of art for him to sell under his name.

>>376707837
>adopted Yusuke out of sympathy
That was debatable. Shadow Madarame said that keeping Yusuke would be better in case people knew about the connections between Yusuke's mother and 'Sayuri', not to mention avoiding unnecessary troubles in the future (like Yusuke might discover the truth behind the relationship between Madarame and his mother). Letting players know Madarame saved Yusuke from the japanese cold was like throwing a curveball.

>>376705380
>but sidequests showed him in a different light.
Which was retarded.

>Madarame DID care about Yusuke in some way, really
>He still watched the kid's mother die to get his hands on her painting, but give him a little credit for calling tons of doctors to find treatment when Yusuke was sick

Fuck off.

>>376708229
Yeah I think there must be some cultural difference at play here. Maybe in Japan you could feel sympathy for Madarame but knowing what he did to Yusuke's mother he was obviously completely deranged.

>>376706636
Level design-wise, yes, just like every other Persona or SMT dungeon. But story-wise, no, they were notably more reflective of the owners' shadows.

>>376706015
Don't really care if the thematics were better, really appreciated not having random dungeons because random dungeons suck ass and have always sucked ass.

"Problem" with Persona 5 if you can call it that is that the dungeons are focused on the villains instead of your party, so that when you beat the dungeon the villain goes away, and you have effectively "wasted" time you could've spent on the characters, which is why P5's characters feel shallow compared to those of P4.

>>376706502
It is murder, you and Shido's inability to make real progress like real successful people based on hard work and real merit doesn't make it okay. Shido was a dumb shitter who was repeatedly outsmarted by high-school children, and without his magic powers that he stole from someone else, he would still be an incompetent factory screwup, instead of an incompetent political screwup.

>>376703753
Adachi may be an edgelord, but he was right, this world sucks.

>>376707590
Shido has a party with him, didn't you play the game?

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>>376706736
Why? What'd he do? He wasn't the one to cause the seizure was he? Not calling for help isn't illegal.

>>376709250
He wasn't even speaking for himself, he was being manipulated by the big eyeball. He had aspirations of being a murdering psycho sure but all that crap was coming from the disco-ball

>>376709250
>>>/r9k/
>>376709003
>they were notably more reflective of the owners' shadows.
Uh not really, they represented different things...

>>376704485
fkn epic my man vrofist

>>376709371
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_negligence

>>376709003
They were more relective of the owner's shadows, yes. But I think you're missing the point of what the dungeons are trying to be in 5. They're meant to reflect how these individuals truly view the world around them. The imagery can be a little blatant at times, but there are standouts that I think say a lot more about the characters than 4's dungeons do. The Casino, for example.

>>376709319
The thing is, the prime minister gets elected later than the party. When he "goes sick" and suddenly there's no prime minister and everyone wonders where the country will go (SPECIALLY if partypeople do that, what a fucking shitstorm), it's an impossible situation, since they would elect the vicepresident and the party would go on with his politics for the time being.

>>376704294
>"THE WORLD FUCKIN SUCKS AND ITS GAY"
That pretty much describes every person on 4chan feelings.

>>376709213
I didn't justify Shido's actions, but I admit him taking advantages of Metaverse just from merely dabbled on Wakaba's research showed that he had good visions.
>without his magic powers that he stole from someone else, he would still be an incompetent factory screwup
Play the fucking game retard. The fucker Goro approached him and offered him the power to meddle with the cognitive world. Shido DIDN'T HAVE magic power. He saw the potential in using his son and vice versa, which clearly indicated that he would use any mean necessary to obtain power. And THAT is a realistic take from a real villain.

nostalgia fag

>>376704294
>>"THE WORLD FUCKIN SUCKS AND ITS GAY"
He's not wrong.

You pirate games precisely because you're sure to get away with it. If you had a foolproof crime tool like the metaverse, who knows what else you'd do.

>>376709606
That's not how things work in Japan, my dude.

>Trump is too cartoonish to be a believable villain in fiction despite being real
Speaks volumes.

>>376709923
>DUDE POLITICIAN VILLAIN = TRUMP!
Fuck
Off

>>376709918
Really? Because reading up on Japan's parlamentary rules it would seem the whole election of the prime minister is just like that.

>>376709923
Shido would be more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJUIzfmJvfs

>just wanted to make Japan great again
>no development in why is it so

>>376706409
>play shogi in a moving car
That fucking monster!

>>376710136
Because people are stupid lol

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>supposed to be a model
>worst fashion sense along with Ryuiji
Takemi at least wear Undercover and Yusuke Saint Laurent (explains why he is gay and broke).

>>376710198
He's not wrong
>nation is still recovering from getting cucked
>beta leaders
>Otaku
If only he was elaborated with

>>376703753
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, HIS MOTIVES WERE COMPLEX

>>376709484
Fair enough. I feel P4 over all had better characters. P5 has more true villains, but said villains were still not as well developed as the cast of P4. I guess it goes without saying, though. P5 was quantity over P4's quality when it came to characters.

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>>376710329
Explain me why midtwenty journalist dresses like grade-schooler?

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>>376710136
Honestly it was just a poor man's Armstrong.

But at least Armstrong had a kind of understandable and consistent anarcho-primitive philosophy. I have no idea what the fuck Shido even stood for.

>>376710019
>get triggered by people pointing out parallels because you need to suck Trump cock
Nice.

>>376710519
Himself.

>>376710502
Because she's gave up on life and doesn't give a shit about her appearance.

I still like her though

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did he suspect who akechi really was or was shadow shido lying?

>>376710519
Because Armstrong's english VO is completely rewritten by Americans who know how to write interesting politics for a western audience.

Shido's dialogue is written by a Japanese writer and then translated by shitty ex-fansubbers who don't comprehend fundamental differences between Japanese and Western audiences.

>>376710502
Same reason /v/irgins dress like shit - they don't care.

>>376710519
Shido had insufficient screentimes to hammer his philosophy and political schemes to the players. To be fair he rose in power very quickly in the politic game just because of Goro, so I merely thought he hadn't give much thought to structure his own plans beside dealing with opposite forces. Political games need years and dedication to play full-time. Or maybe Atlus was just lazy.

>>376710502
To make herself younger than she looks :^)

>>376710564
>parallels
>for a game in development since early 10's
>only thing is something that Reagan and other guys said about country
>>376710442
That's his son

>>376711083
>his philosophy
There was no philosophy to speak of. Shido just spouted rhetoric and only succeeded because dissenters were dead or otherwise removed from the picture.

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Did not read the thread. I am yet to play P5, but i have been wondering since those pics started appearing on /v/.

What is Les Grossman doing in a persona game?

>>376710710
the hell does that mean? everyone has some principles they stand for. The game clearly meant portray him as a strong leader with a clear direction to lead the country (see the metaphor of the ship dungeon) but we never even see a hint of WHAT that direction is.

Comparing to Armstrong again, who had a clear vision relating to contemporary American politics involving relevant issues such as war and oil. In comparison I know jack shit about Shido, despite being having MORE screentime than Armstrong. Armstrong said more about himself in one cutscene then Shido did the whole damn game.

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>>376703753
Nothing wrong even for western standard.
It`s believable.
Pic related.

>>376711563
He stood for himself.

As in only he matters. The metaphor of the ark was that the entire country could go to shit for all he cares; everyone could die and he wouldn't lose any sleep over it. All that matters is that he's on top and that those who are with him are the lucky chosen.

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BEWARE SON OF GRAVITY, I WILL SUE!

>>376705641
I wish it wad like a floor or two longer to make up for the fact that you can recover sp at the entrance.

>>376710564
>Trying to push an agenda when everyone else is discussing a video game
Nice

>Shido
>nationalist as fuck
>wants to make Japan great again
>believes in law and order
>doesn't tolerate degenerates and leftist crap
>isn't afraid to die to accomplish his goals
>names the jews

>Adachi
>leftist as fuck
>entitled as shit thinks the world owns him anything
>spends the entire game bitching instead of doing something about shitters
>is afraid to die to fight for a cause like the rapefugees and nigger immigrants who are cowards running away from their country instead of fighting for it and bringing their rapefugees and nigger culture to brave White nations
>theme song sucks

>>376711796
This, everyone is pretending he's Armstrong when he's literally a Char clone.

>>376711796
Shido seems like a critique of the entrance of american-style politics in Japan, with the included amount of litigiousness that America is famous for.

>>376703753
>Implying Shido is the main villain.

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>>376712080
>Appears like this
>Voiced by Shuichi Ikeda

Whoda thunk it?

>>376712080
>Goro Akechi could've been like a mother to me

>>376703753

i rip the skin

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>>376704294

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>>376704584
I'm still on the crime boss, so is it actually true that Shido is gunning for Joker the whole time?

>>376703753
For me the problem with Shido and most of the P5 villains in general is that you interact very little with them, the only villain that I actually cared about was Kamoshida and that was due to every encounter with him making me want to punch him in the face.

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>>376716069
>Adachi and Yu start out with the same resources
>Yu is no more skilled than Adachi
>But spends the whole game working to improve himself and put in the effort to connect with others
>IT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TALENTED AAAAAAAAAAAH

I humbly request that you vote for me! Masayoshi Shido!

>>376711864
I didn't know you could recover your SP cause I never talked to Justine in the entrance so I get destroyed in there. They should have forced you to enter the Velvet Room or something so nobody would miss that.

>>376716453
Adachi is literally /v/.

>>376705068
I don't think Kaneshiro was evil, just greedy and manipulative. He didn't hound people down in the streets, he merely gave people an offer and saw those who took his offer as new opportunities to get ahead. It's the same with Okumura. They're both just enterprising gentlemen who are particularly greedy and notably selfish, but beyond that, it's almost wrong to call them "evil". I feel like those two almost didn't need a change of heart other than an excuse to get a party member in our team.

>>376716728
>he commits blackmail for 3 million yen literally two minutes after first appearing on screen
Yeah, reasonable gentlemen with no dubious morals at all.

>>376716453
I don't think Adachi is as naturally charismatic or attractive as Yu. His face is like a banana, and I haven't seen his s-link but he comes off more as 'that weird guy'.

>>376716962
Both Dojima and Nanako liked him, so it's not like it was beyond him if he tried. The problem was he didn't try, he thought everyone in Inaba was beneath him.

>>376716728
Are you kidding? Kaneshiro literally murders people just to squeeze more money out of the people still alive. He's way more than just greedy.

>>376716728
>t. Kaneshiro

>>376704729
Everything after resolving the childhood friend stuff was garbage

>>376716885
I'm saying compare his actions to Kamoshida, Madarame, and Shido.

>Savagely beating and raping students and outright threatened to get two students expelled and your MC arrested for snooping around, abusing his academic power to the ends of the earth, virtually untouchable, and would reach out to others to hurt them.
Literally getting in the way of others to sate his own sadism and fellate himself, causing serious injuries and nearly a suicide.
>Steals innumerable works of art and sells them all for a massive fortune, erases one of his pupils' histories because he just wanted even more money, literally watches a woman die to earn capital and laughs
If the party hadn't stepped in and tried to stop him, Yusuke would have been preyed upon until he died, and Madarame literally allowed someone to die knowing it'd line his pockets more, and this someone was someone he approached.

Shido we don't even need to talk about.

Kaneshiro is a con man who tells others "Hey kid, you wanna make a little money doing something illegal?", I blame the retards who approach him with high hopes for getting screwed as a result. Same with Okumura, it's not as if Big Bang Burger has bomb collars on its employees or if their aggressive working campaigns are some kind of major secret, most people know that the employees work their asses off to get nowhere in life. I'm not pretending as if these guys are normal workmen, but they aren't the literal scions of evil that Kamoshida, Madarame, and Shido wound up being. They're just pricks who need to be kicked off their high chairs.

>>376717108
>murders

This is a point I missed. When did he threaten to murder anybody? At worst, if you fail his path, he turns Makoto into a whore to make the money back. He's literally just excessively greedy and cons idiots into following his schemes.

>>376717058
I think it comes down to him being an anti-social prick. One of his issues is that even if he tries to hide it, he still ends up as being a sarcastic prick. He might like people, but it doesn't change how he's a sarcastic prick. This eventually gets through and rubs people the wrong way, which is why he got sent to the boonies. He never developed the necessary social skills when he was young, and despite actually being very good at his job, he gets sent away since he never made the right connections.

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>>376703753

>>376717353
>When did he threaten to murder anybody?
It's implied by broken ATMs in his palace.

>>376717353
>This is a point I missed. When did he threaten to murder anybody?
He confesses in his palace he has murdered people to send a message to his other victims, and threatens to make one put of Makoto. Plus, he also intends to make Sae his sex slave. Seriously, you're giving a pass to him with his crazy sex schemes but Kamoshida gets damned for them? You were not paying attention during that part of the game man.

>>376711864
Nah fuck that, it was too long.

>>376717403
>He never developed the necessary social skills when he was young, and despite actually being very good at his job, he gets sent away since he never made the right connections.
While this might be true it should be remembered it's not just that he didn't develop those skills, he never wanted to.

>>376716319
It's not, Shido forgot about Joker as soon as he pressed charges.

>>376716962

It's debatable if the wild card grants you an aura of likability to make powering up easier. Chie's line about how Brotag has something about him that makes him easy to talk too is a hint.

>>376717567
That makes more sense but I'm almost sad he wasn't as retardedly vindictive as I thought

>>376717353
>cons idiots into following his schemes.
>It's not evil to extort money from people as long as you convince them to deliver drugs for you at least once

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P4's main villain was a bitch nigga goddess you kill for shits n' giggles before Senpai leaves.

P4's semi-main villain was a disco ball.

P4's patsy villain was an edgelord cop.

>>376717467
Not good enough. That could easily be explained as broken people who no longer have monetary use for him and are discarded.
>>376717498
I don't remember this at all. Only that if you don't have any use for him anymore, he abuses you horribly for it.
>Seriously, you're giving a pass to him with his crazy sex schemes but Kamoshida gets damned for them?
The difference is that Kamoshida is preying upon people who are given no other choice. Join Kamoshida or be a fucking failure. Other students were protecting him because he would threaten them, and whenever he saw a good piece of meat, he would just approach them, demand what he wanted out of them, and threaten them if they said or did anything. Kaneshiro literally only got around via word of mouth, and you had to go out of your way to even find people who he knew, and out of those people, most would tell you to fuck off. You literally had to have Makoto threaten gangsters, get kidnapped, and then stalk them to his building in order to have a run-in with him, and he threatens you because you outright threatened him. He's scum, but your cast and almost all of his "victims" were literally asking for it. Kamoshida's a piece of shit because all of his victims had no choice in the matter and literally didn't get what he promised in exchange for allowing him to do what he wanted. Hell, Kaneshiro even paid the idiots underneath him to do his dirty work.
>>376717670
If you literally have to fight tooth and nail to get involved with an obvious yakuza goon, I can't claim that he's in the wrong here when you know that what you're doing is illegal as all fuck. Or are you one of those vindictive individuals mad that someone made a fortune selling rocks?

>>376717916
>If you literally have to fight tooth and nail to get involved with an obvious yakuza goon
What do you mean dude? Did you miss the part where the Yakuza roll up to people on the street and offer them incredibly easy jobs that pay really well?

>>376717916
>Kaneshiro literally only got around via word of mouth, and you had to go out of your way to even find people who he knew, and out of those people, most would tell you to fuck off.
That was to FIND HIS HIDEOUT, retard. Did you forget that the entire reason he was a target was because he has dozens of men in Shibuya scamming, threatening and blackmailing high schoolers who don't know any better into being his smugglers? His organization is not one you need to approach, they go after their victims. You're just confused because Kaneshiro isn't out there in person doing it.

>>376717564
Well because he was the sort who would focus on his studies and work. Society told him that just by focusing on your schoolwork, you'll end up fine, but when he reached the real world, the fact he can't make meaningful connections ends up biting him in the ass. His own mindset was against bonds because he saw other people wasting their life away and was trying to justify his own lifestyle of all work and no play.

>>376703753
Both were better than Ikutsuki.

>>376718187
It's one thing to simply ignore your social obligation or whatever. But what we see of Adachi is plain and simple scorn for other people. He doesn't think his work is more important than meeting people, he thinks people are less important than his work.

>>376718304
Because that's his own justification for the way his life is. It's a twisted way of looking at things, but at the same time, it's a trap that many people fall into. Arrogance to cope with loneliness. Adachi's character is a story of someone who worked hard, but unfortunately hard work can only get you so far if you don't have that extreme natural talent or connections.

>>376717353
>Same with Okumura, it's not as if Big Bang Burger has bomb collars on its employees or if their aggressive working campaigns are some kind of major secret, most people know that the employees work their asses off to get nowhere in life.

Okumura ordered for mental shutdowns on competitors.

>>376718272
or Strega for that matter

>>376703753
None of the villains in 5 feel like villains. They just tell you their evil and don't show you how they're evil. Kamoshida is the only exception to this because he is a actual obstacle to the player and you have multiple scenes of interaction with him.

>>376716069
Adachi is completely right about this. Yu is the talented one because of the wild card that allows him to make easy friends with everyone. Adachi was just a hard worker that fail no matter how hard he worked.

>>376719583
Adachi didn't fail because he didn't have talent, he failed because he didn't have people who'd stick up for him or help him succeed.

>>376719583
>Kamoshida is the only exception to this because he is a actual obstacle to the player and you have multiple scenes of interaction with him.
The protagonist can't exactly hang around a yakuza member, president of a company, famous artist, and candidate for prime minister on a daily basis despite going to high school. Kamoshida is the one antagonist that you can be around normally and see their character.

>>376719583
>Adachi is completely right about this.
Yu is being "lucky" isn't evidence for all people. Adachi just didn't try.

>>376720706
You don't need them to hang-out, just make it so the player has a couple scenes of interaction. Madarame was the closest to this because of Yusuke.

>>376720136
So the moral of the story is that hard work ain't shit without connections?

>>376721501
Just like real life.

>>376703753
>have shaved head and same beard as shido irl
>best boss fight in game is fighting myself

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>>Persona 5's main villain is a cartoonishly-evil politician who wants to rule the world because literally Char Aznable

He even attacks 3 times faster than everyone else at one point.

>>376716654

Adachi is more like /r9k/

Fucks things up for himself and doesn't take responsibility for his actions so they never get fixed and he suffers.

>>376722194
Congrats for beating the game, Pitbull.

The only inconsistent thing is that Shido shouldn't be so ripped. Japanese men can't get huge like that.

>>376722350
>using Morgana

>>376722504
Aniki pls

>midgame
>a group of maladjusted teenagers commit dubious brainwashing acts

>endgame
>let's kill god and save the world :DDD

>>376716319
get out of this thread or the game is gonna get spoiled.

>>376703753
Politicians exist of mostly selfish, lying assholes and cunts who live solely on falsely gained postive attention.

Was there ever any better main antagonist?

>>376723528
>Was there ever any better main antagonist?

Yes. Someone competent, to begin with. The problem is not really that the motivation is paper thin, is that the guy is just too retarded to have been the manager of a neurological investigation and a corrupt politician with enough power to become prime minister in few years.

>>376722481
Not Howie Mandel?

>>376717353
>This is a point I missed. When did he threaten to murder anybody?
There are ATMs in his palace that beg for him to not harm their families. Anything goes for Kaneshiro.

>>376710519
Shido was supposed to be an ultra right wing Japanese nationalist. The problem is how would the writers make his politics understandable to a non Japanese audience.

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>>376722350
>All guy party

I like my bros as much as the next guy, but that's kinda gay. Drop Ryuji or Morgana.

>>376720136
How was Adachi supposed to make connections out on the boonies? There's nothing in Inaba aside from family owned business that goes back generation. I think Persona 4's main flaw is that it goes out of it's way to promote suburban life

>>376703753
>who wants to rule the world
Retard

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>>376703753
Adachi was the most underwhelming, disappointing conclusion to what felt like a great mystery to solve.
>Who is the mysterious murderer of all these people?
>Why can he use the power to enter tv's?
>What is his motive?!
I was satisfied with the delivery guy being the villian. He seemed interessting and his motive being "saving people" was both insane and hella interessting.

But turns out it's just your uncles goofy assistant who throws people in for fun cause he cant get laid

I don't think Shido was a great villian.. but better than Adachi? Fuckin any day nugga.