Do adults actually play and enjoy those games?

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>>376324586
Because Waifus

>>376324586
I'm 25 and I just discovered Pokemmo. I grew up on Pokemon; the card game, the video games, and the show.
The games are too slow paced, imo, but really addicting. The game is so simple but i like all the different kinds of strategies and when they introduced dual pokebattles, that really revolutionized the games in the franchise
Plus, I know a little programming so when I'm playing it I like to kind of imagine how the coding is laid out for the game

>>376324586
furfags do. see: >>376324832

To answer your question though, no. There is no adult without some kind of mental condition that legitimately plays pokemon for the single player game.

>>376324832
https://www.psychiatry.org/

Children play cod, overwatch, wow, league, GTA, Minecraft.

Games like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon usually have more adults due to nostalgia.

>>376324586
I've played it since it's inception, and enjoyed every iteration. It's just a fun series, and it's nice to just play something casual as fuck sometimes. Oh, and your complaint about Pokemon not changing, Sun and Moon changed a lot of things, to the point people were complaining that it wasn't like Pokemon.

I like to role play in the pokemon world. I wish I lived there. Scyther is my favorite.

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The singleplayer for mainline is rather mediocre. The spinoffs are better.
Still interested in the franchise because muh virtual pets and the online is pretty good I'd say, even if the meta has just been I dream of genies for two gens.

>>376325013
It's a beginning, I don't know much about what changed, I think it has something to do with Gym Leaders, right? But the core gameplay and other mechanics are still the same as Pokémon Red/Green, they should make changes and innovate in each new generation, just like Zelda and Mario games do. The way the series is now, it's just like a CoD from Japan.

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>>376324952
>>376324983
>Normies

>>376324586
>there's no depth in gameplay
>this guy never did a trick room sweep with curse-stacking Snorlax

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>>376324586
baka desu

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I play exclusively online to satisfy my competitive autism.

>>376325346
The online and competitive scene is really good, I admit that, the problem is that you have the spend like 200+ hours just to finish the singleplayer and create your team of 6 Pokemons with perfect IVs and EVs, and if your strategy is weak and you haven't made a good team, you're completly fucked.

I think they should just create a Casual Mode for the online, where you pick 6 Pokemons and change their IVs, EVs and movements at will and just face random battles.

>>376325652
>competitive rock-paper-scissors
kill yourself, desu

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This is the ideal pokemon. You may not like it,
but this is what peak perfomance looks like.

Pokemon Fusion Generation was pretty awesome. It's a fan-made game that you can play for PC.

>>376325727
http://pokemonshowdown.com

>>376325458
Yes, I am a normal person, why should I be ashamed of that?

Are you actually proud of being a sick, disgusting human being?

>>376325346
>muh virtual pets
This is mostly why I like it. Even if the story is just a cheesy Saturday morning cartoon.

>>376325575
Why would anyone do that in the singleplayer when you can just spam Earthquake, Hydro Pump, Flamethrower, Solar Beam, Thunderbolt etc etc and you'll still win easily.

>>376324586
I'm 23 and i actually enjoyed it until this gen, i just can't stand the new designs and how easy it is, didn't even finish the games. I always thought that genwunners were wrong but now i understand them

The fanbase is also pretty cringy wanting to fuck any pokemon that resemble a female (or not) or hoe they overhype anything that is a litte more difficult than baby mode

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>>376324586
Pokemon is for Pokephilia

Most adults that I know interested in the franchise only play pokemon showdown without actually playing anything after XY

>>376325801
Isn't that illegal?

I mean, it's nice, but I want to see it on the mainline games.

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>>376325773
Play me faggot, I'll 6-0 you and your entire family.

>>376324586
Sometimes I'll hear some of the older music and feel like playing again but then I realize the Pokemon games of today are trash.

Games that are meant for people of all ages you mean.

It's a common misconception. Not your fault. You're just ignorant.

As a fan of the series since the EU release, it freaking pains me that people like XY, ORAS and especially Sun/Moon.

People having SM as their favourite generation are wrong on so many levels I could write a master thesis on it.

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>>376325930
Did you not like the designs of Sun and Moon's Pokemons? I honestly found them really good and much better than the other 2 last generations.

I think those are the best designs since generation 2.

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>>376324586
pokemon has a huge nostalgia factor and most of the people that still buy the games are people that have known the series when they were kids
it's also still really popular outside of that crowd

>>376326005
I don't remember them taking down any of the battle simulators that have existed so I guess not.

>>376326047
My Dragonite alone would destroy your entire team, relatives and friends.

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>>376326047
>he's acting tough on an anonymous image board
>about a children's game of rock-paper-scissors with the occasional dice roll
O i am laffin

>>376326247
Yeah, that's obvious and I'm asking why are there adults who still play it despite being garbage and the same thing every game.

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>>376326342
>>376326047
>fighting over pokemon teams on 4chan

>>376326449
because they don't care about the gameplay

>>376326450
>/vp/

i love pokemon and i can't even disagree with the OP.

it's comfort food gaming, collect and bunch of monsters and win 100s of brain dead encounters.

>>376326450
What's vp ?

>>376326124
>I could write a master thesis on it.

Go on, I'm sure everyone here is curious to read and refute every single shit you write there.

>>376326342
>he doesn't know what Fairies are
kekerino. Please, have another (You)

>>376326357
do you take every post seriously like that

>>376326602
>I like handholding and MGS4 tier long cutscenes
I'm sure your preferences are superior.

>>376326613
Oh boy, he thinks my Dragonite will be defeated by a fairy pokemon, I'm laughing really fucking hard IRL right now.

>>376326047
>>376326342
My snips can literally take on your entire team, bring it faggot

>>376324586
I get less and less interested in the franchise with every gen, and I pretty much bought the recent game just for the nostalgia factor. Haven't picked it up since I finished it months ago because I don't care about the competitive scene at all.

>>376324586

I see Pokemons all ages appeal and I've never minded it as I've grown. I think its clearly a generational thing

But, I've kinda fallen off the Pokemon train the last few generations

The last gen I really put hard time into was Diamond/Pearl/HG/SS

I eventually tried Black and White and liked their single player ideas they tried to implement but I didn't do jack shit for post game, and then X and Y were just bland as fuck to me. I didnt even get Sun and Moon

I think I'm just tired of how little the formula gets changed. I get it, they keep it the same as much as they can to make sure it can still be accessible but that just means its not really for me anymore. So many other RPGs have neat monster catching systems, its a shame Pokemon is so set in its ways. And it has no obligation to change either because of how the series always sells millions.

I bet they are still fun for many but I've long since tired of the main line games.

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>>376326619
>get called out
>J-jokes on you, I wasn't actually being serious!
Embarrassing. This is the last reply you'll ever get from me, kid.

>>376326787
They should make Pokemon games like Dragon Quest, the later appeals to nostalgia-facts, JRPG enthusiasts, gaming critics, casuals and hardcores.

Pokemon only panders to nostalgia-fags, online competitive-fags and children.

>>376326992
oh so you're paranoid and think everyone who replies is the same person too
have fun with that

>>376324586
I recently started playing the tcg. Been wanting to start playing the games again because I don't know all of the new pokemon very well.

Originally, Gen 3 was the last pokemon gen I played. I was still a kid when Gen 4 came out, but didn't have a DS. Fast forward to me in HS, everybody raving about XY, decide to get Y. Instantly hated it. Why tf do they give you EXP share at the god damn beginning of the game? And why does it apply to your entire god damn party?
>inb4 you can turn it off
That isn't the point, EXP share was supposed to be this badass item that you either get late game or after you beat the pokemon league that was difficult in some aspect to get. Also, they just give you a Gen 1 starter, Snorlax, AND Lucario. wtf was with that? I stopped after something like the 5th gym. I've heard SM was better, so maybe I'll give it a shot, but I don't have my hopes up. If SM is shit, I'll just stick to the tcg.

>>376326925
Unfortunetely, there are 15 million idiots that still support the games, despite them being formulaic as fuck and afraid of change. This hurts not only the series, but the also the gaming industry who takes it as an example of what consumers want.

>>376327147
Go play Yu-Gi-Oh, faggot, much better

>>376326764
Too bad for you, I'm 1700 elo in OU and I eat trash talking chumps like you for lunch.
So fuck off, unless you think your special little gimmick team can beat me.

>>376326521
>>376326585
A Board full of pitiful people

>>376327353
So my deck can be banned a week after buying in? no thanks

>>376326746
>Unzips Xerneas
What now fucboi

>>376327353
>recommending YGO ever

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>tfw you saw some short fat balding bearded 40-50 year old man with a Pokemon shirt with all the eeveelutions(including Sylveon).

>>376327567
Go play Hearthstone, faggot, much better

>>376327605
Maybe he is using some of his grandchildren clothes, It's quite normal amonsgt poor old people.

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>>376327353
>>376327635
no

>>376326234
There are very few sun and moon designs i like, the toucan is one of them (but i don't like how it evolved from a woodpecker). I actually like the ultra beasts because they look more like monsters. But i don't like things like the starters final evolution, the tapus, that stupid flower thing, the sand castle i like except for the shovel in its head, the crabs looking too cartoony, etc

The alola forms were great when they started revealing them but then we got persian, the geodude line and dugtrio. Those look fucking terrible and most of the fanbase liked them because "lol so funny and quirky xD they look adorable".
That's when i realized this kind of design were not the reason i liked pokemon before. I wanted to like it and continue playing but i just can't, i'm not the target anymore. They should change the franchise name to Pokecuteanimalswithhumanlikedetails

>>376327793
Same genus

>>376327605
Eeveefags are a special brand of autism even among pokefags. I knew this guy in PokeMMO who'd replace random words with "Eevee" when speaking like he'd say "Eeveeryone" or say "eve" instead of lol.

>>376327220

I can see that

I wouldn't go so far as to call everyone idiots who still likes the series but mass appeal games tend to pull people in because of familiarity but those people who might buy a new pokemon game every 5-6 years or however sooner they come now, aren't very likely to buy other games more frequently. They might have a 3DS with Pokemon and one or two other games but just pull it out when the new games come, so they never really try other games. Not saying that's a bad thing but that pretty common now

Its how you get that "casual" stereotype of someone who just plays madden or fifa or CoD

Sure on /v/ its easy to shit on "casuals" like that because of how surface level those games are but for some people thats fine for them if they just play those games because they aren't as heavily invested in games. Its just interesting to see different levels of consumer interest evolve over the years for games

>>376327793
>most of the fanbase liked [A-Persian]
that doesn't sound right at all

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>>376324586
The girls get more and more delicious each gen

>>376324586
havent touched a pokemon since i was 14
just seems like a dumbed down jrpg which i dont even like in the first plass

>>376328745
plass is not a word

Pokemon games are made to be once-overed without a guide

I grew up with Red/Blue and even now just consider it a poor man's Golden Sun simulator
The exploration and shit like ice/block puzzles are the main appeal and the actual pokemon aspect is kind of secondary unless you're playing a difficulty hack which requires you to min max and resort to guides

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Have you thanked your favorite pokemon for bringing balance and stability to the meta /v/?

>>376324832
what the fuck do people really fap to this shit.
>just add boobs and it becomes a fetish

>>376325428
It's more story based, and they removed Gyms. The games have added tons of shit from Gen I for sure, and unlike COD, it's a difference you can see from a couple of games ago. How could they change it though? It's a turn based RPG about catching monsters. You can't change too much about it like Zelda and Mario without completely stripping away its core. Look what happened with FFXV, they changed too much and it turned the series into a shell of its former self, even more than XIII did.

Adult here. Been playing since R/B. I still enjoy these games.

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>>376329847
How are his pick rates looking? Last I checked he was at 40% in OU. Must have gone down with all these ultra beasts running around, right?

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>>376330868
His usage is so high he runs HP Ice to counter himself

>>376324586
>there's no depth in the gameplay
Wrong.

why wuld you ask the manchild capital of the internet?

>>376324586
>Pokemon is literally only for children
I guess that means Civilization series is also literally for children as well, seeing as they are rated E for Everyone as well.
>b-but Civilization has depth

not enough to be considered E for Everyone, I guess.

>>376324586
Pokemon is popular because just like mainline SMT, monster catching rpgs are fun.

Also, the adventure feeling of explore a new region with new creatures that will never get old.

Play the fucking games before judge them.

>>376325428
>But the core gameplay and other mechanics are still the same as Pokémon Red/Green
No, that isn't even remotely correct. Abilities, natures, breeding, double battles, mega evolution, the split of physical and special moves and stats, z moves, and all sorts of other shit were added over time, making it very, very different from red and blue

>>376325930
Sun and Moon are harder than any previous mainline title.

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I'm 20 and I find Pokemon really relaxing to play. Also the designs, both humans and Pokemon are always very good. I loved S/M and I'm looking forward to the next ones.

>>376327793
As opposed to ball or spikey dinosaur with angry eyesm

>>376324586
I got back into it after seeing all the different teams you can make with the pokemon and all the different strategies you could pull. It doesn't matter to me if it's all gimmicky shit. It's fun and Pokemon's single player is not one of the games I go to if I want challenge and depth.

Catching them all is a pain in the ass though. Took me two and a half months before Gen 7 came out.

>>376324586
>afraid of change
Nice meme.
>singleplayer
Term made up by salty multiplayerfags.
>campaign
CoDkiddie terminology.

I see through you, underage.

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>lando-t usage is extremely high
>not a single suspect test happens

>suspect testing mega metagross now, most likely will get banned
>mons like lele, mega alakazam and mega medicham will get an insane boost in usage, and probably get banned as well because they can actually stand a chance against stall

>ubers is now a "legit" tier with the ban of mega fug back during ORAS
>still hasn't banned primal groudon, despite it's usage being close to 100%

smogon is fucked yo

I haven't played a whole game since GS, dabbled in X. Tell me the likelihood of the following:
>starters that are not FWG type
>triple typing
>more than 6 pokemon in a party
>more than 4/5 moves

>>376331980
Wow, it's like the OU council is a crappy bureaucracy where the mods and their friends want to keep their favorites around and ban stuff that gives their teams trouble.
From BW-onward lower tier play has always been better.

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>>376324586

I've always said that Pokemon is one of the clunkiest RPGs ever made. The battles have an extremely slow pace, and require you to jump through a bunch of hoops to do simple actions like switching pokemons. There are archaic mechanics like a pokemon needing to survive a battle to get experience and status effects have like a 99% chance of proccing and don't disappear until you reach a pokecenter or the pokemon dies (and the items to heal them are very scarce and expensive)

It's terrible in every possible way, faggots just like it because muh nostalgia

Why would you judge the singleplayer on its own?

Just like CoD, the story is less than a tenth of the whole experience

>>376332713
>(and the items to heal them are very scarce and expensive)
What's wrong with you

>>376324586
>zelda and mario more all ages than pokemon
nice bait friend

>>376332474
gen 6 UU was pretty garbage though

>>376332932
he's technically not wrong, before the 4th or 5th gym in most games revives are almost nonexistant, which is a major pain if you get crit by something with a surprise super effective attack

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>>376332713
Here's you're reply you dumb avatarfag since I feel sorry for your terrible bait.

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>>376324586
i like the eeveelutions

>>376332876
CoD is shit in every possible aspect, Pokemon at least still have a good multiplayer to hide behind.

>>376333853

Stop fucking calling anything you have no arguments against "bait", ffs.

You know all of what I said is factually correct, you have no arguments for it, pokemon is slow as shit and has extremely archaic mechanics. There's a reason why pokemons always fail on 3d, because that slow paced shit doesn't work on a 3d game

>>376324586
I agree the game is piss easy and that makes it boring. It would be a great game though if it wasn't easy, so people still like it. It also is extremely appealing to casuals and is known as a very relaxing game.

>>376325916
>using solarbeam outside of sun

how bad are you

They're fun.

I really don't see any other answer I can give.

Pokemon Cyber Sluts fucking when?

>>376332713
There is absolutely nothing wrong with any of that stuff, except maybe the slow speed of battles. Holy shit do you just expect things to be handed to you or are you a fag that sinks a hundred bucks into League every chance they get?

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>>376326992
>This is the last reply you'll ever get from me, kid.

Everything Nintenbro is for children. If Mario and Zelda were for all ages they wouldn't always be so piss easy throughout the entire game so little kids could beat it and bore the fuck out of everyone else.

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>>376324586
>implying Mario games have any depth

>>376327147
>And why does it apply to your entire god damn party?
Because the entire premise of starting the fight with a babby pokemon and switching it out so it can gain experience is antiquated and silly.

>>376332409
None of those currently happen.

Plus Gen 6 as a whole is generally hated by the fan base. Avoid XYORAS at all costs.

>>376334591
>>376334591
Just because you say its "not b8" doesn;t mean its not actually bait, but I'll blow you the fuck out right now.
1. How the fuck is switching pokemon something thats "a bunch of hoops" you literally click the switch action, and switch to a benched pokemon. Thats it. You don't have to play some minigame or anything

2. Death withholding Experience Points is not an archaic mechanic. it's there to punish the player for not playing optimally. If you continously die, one pokemon will be overleveled and the rest will be underlevled. Most RPGs do this so you can't just steamroll with one character using the others as bait and have the entire team be the same level. Even so, starting in gen 6, they introduced the new EXP share mechanics so that all non-active pokemon receive half the exp the active pokemon do so if your front pokemon receives 1000 exp from the defeat of a pokemon, the 5 others will each receive 500 exp.

3. Only Major status effects linger after battle, and hell, starting in Gen 5, they even got rid of the poision widdling away your health for every other overwold step. Not to mention theres basically a ton of optional healers on almost every route so lingering status effects are a non issue.

3. Items to heal them are not expensive at all, except for arguably the Full Restore, and it should be considering what it fucking does. Status healers are dirt cheap, and healing items are dirt cheap too if you know where to shop. The healing herbs are much less expensive than the potions with the only "downside" is that it lowers your pokemon's happiness (which is also a non issue as to how easy it is to raise it) Then we have the drinks such as soda pops and moomoo milks which are also less expensive and heal for more, but you can't buy them in bulk, outside of special situations so its a Time vs. Convenience thing.

Pokemon has many issues as a game series but your complaints are none of said issues you moron.

>>376324586
I would enjoy it if there was an actual endgame. The game is easy and elite 4 gets nerfed every installment. Not even kids have a difficult time anymore.

>>376324586
>no depth
Where do you draw the line? Many games are incredibly simple to people more familiar with playing video games and they still find enjoyment in playing them. How is mario any different from pokemon when it has a basic story? Most shooters are non challenging for people. Hell, many games of late are made to be very accessible so arguing depth seems a little subjective when comparing them to things like Arkham style combat.

>>376324586
>Playing Mario for the story
>Zelda has been the same since LttP or Link's Awakening, the latter of which influenced the 3D games except with designated sword and shield buttons/commands
>BoTW just flips the buttons around, overlaps Z-Targeting and Shield, adds a manual jump button, makes the equipment system context sensitive a la MGS while chopping up the dungeons into small parts.

>>376325810
gtfo, piece of shit.
go back to facebook.

>>376324586
Socially acceptable people do play Pokemon but they play at release, beat the game and forget a about it.

People who play this shit non-stop are all autists.

>>376331509
Yeah i prefer that i guess? Also the no-post game really sucks

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>>376336806
Why do you faggots care so much about who's an autist and who isn't?

This is 4chan. This place is supposed to be sperg central. People here are suddenly so fucking concerned with who's abiding by social norms and it's pissing me off.

You think you have something to prove? You're on an anonymous image board where you have no name and no face. Your high school dynamics ideally wouldn't apply here, and they really don't. Contribute to the discussion, don't just wank over how "normal" you are.

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It's a monter collecting game. How many of those are out there?
The battles are not the main focus and so isnt the story (save for B/W)
It's about the pokemon designs, settings, and movesets.
There's a reason why Nintendo heralded the phrase "GOTTA CATCH EM ALL". They were afraid retards like OP misunderstand the purpose.

You finish the game when you caught them all. Most people dont do that and that's fine if they are satisfied with it already.
But the adventurous feeling and the search for every possible pokemon in each area is what gets me every time.
Additionally, they changed quite a lot with Sun and Moon and it still was great as ever.
Furthermore, I think it's great that you can customize your pokemon and minmax them to a playstyle you favor.


tl;dr The designs for the pokemon and the sensation of discovery is what appeals to me
I guess retards like OP will exist forever

>>376326342
>brings xerneas
nothing personnel kid

>>376324586
I grew up with the pokemon games, and loved the single player, but found it easier and easier every generation to my dismay.

To enjoy the current generations I have to play a blind nuzlocke with grinding restrictions and absolutely no EXP share or legendaries / giveaway-mons. It's still too easy at times. I hate Gamefreak for introducing a "locked" hard mode, and then instantly removing it never to bring it back.

It's a solid RPG with great gameplay elements, it's just way too fucking easy. It breaks my heart.

>>376324586
I still play because I've been playing since I was 6 and it's just a comfy and homely franchise to me.

It's gay as fuck, but I never had friends when I was a kid so it was a good escape and now I just get enjoyment from the slight alterations to the familiarity of it all.

If I want something harder, I'll sometimes jump into competitive. I used to sink ~700 hours per generations in, but the last 2 I've just played for about 100 and got my fill.

I'd welcome more challenge, or a toggle-able harder mode or something though.

>>376338497
*700 hours per generation

fuck, I'm retarded

>>376326234
Is this sarcasm? You just posted literally my moms anjery toocan xd.
How can anyone unironically like this?

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>>376325346
>>376330868
>>376330937
>>376331980
>>376332474
this is why vgc is the best meta

>>376324586
>no depth in the gameplay
I know Ninty has been doing it's best to take out the depth, but natures, IVs, EVs, etc. are the definition of depth.

>>376324952
I enjoy playing pokemon, a large part of it is nostalgia does that make me a non-adult or have a mental condition?

Do you actually think about things before you type?

After ORAS, I felt so betrayed by GameFreak that I didn't even bother to pirate SM. And that's coming from a guy that regularly bought the games before that. XY was lackluster, but it was their first attempt at 3D games, so I gave them a pass, but ORAS? No no no... I won't fall for their tricks again.

>>376326449
You literally got an answer and you ask again?

Pokémon needs a complete do-over.
Not to erase all the Pokémon and start over, not another gen 3/gen5.
But a reimagining of the Pokémon RPG adventure. Completely change the engine to be nothing like it is now, because it sucks.
Faster menus is a good start, but something should happen to spice up at least the single player campaign, the current "switch to your SE coverage/SE stab mon, click fire beam, click full restore, repeat" got old 20 years ago.
The online has its draw but it comically misses the point of the story campaign's themes. Everyone's different, everyone's unique! So breed the most unique together in a tenfold eugenics program unleashing large amounts of invasive wildlife to the final city's surround area to create your superbeings that look exactly alike to some gutter trash you can find in the wild.
I just want something FRESH from Pokémon. Spinnoffs are nice, but they never go anywhere.

>>376324586
>played gen1 when I was 10
>enjoyed it. had red and yellow
>eventually dabble in gen 2 and 3 through emulation
>never got into it enough to get more than 2 badges
>years later X/Y comes out
>decide to get it
>really enjoy making a complete living dex
>enjoy the random battles I'll have here and there with 8 year old nephew using random junk mons

I don't really play it anymore unless my nephew asks to battle which is a couple times a month

If you want to play a Pokemon game for adults just play Shin Megami Tensei.

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>>376324586
Dunno, man. Speaking for myself, I like the Pokémon designs and collecting shit. Also, it being so braindead easy is what makes me like them. I can just chill training a team I handpicked myself and just enjoy the ride.

Also, Pokémon fans stopped bringing up CoD since HGSS because we've been getting new titles every year or so ever since.

>>376324586
I only played gen 1 and them not including gen 1(or older gens) on newer games is the primary reason why I don't play pokemon anymore.

>>376338801
no they arent
they are complexity
complexity != depth

there is some depth to assigning ev's, but iv's lack depth entirely because they should obviously be maxed out

I want tamagotchies! I wanna train my murderpeta in vicious combat and then pet them and cuddle them and brush their hair and dress them up with cute little bows and hairstyles and shit! Amie and refresh are steps in the right direction, but there's still a long way to go. Refresh looks kinda like those zombie Elsa baby flash games , I want more from it.

i miss the time when i enjoyed pokemon, it just doesn't do it for me anymore

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>>376324586
>it is quite clear that this series is for children, it's not like Mario or Zelda which are for ALL AGES

>>376325810
when did /v/ become this?

>>376326585
>>>/vp/
Why don't you see for yourself?

>>376339674
Optimizing IV breeding is where the depth is. Also, hidden power is based off of IVs, so it's not always optimal to max them all out.

>>376324586
It is like Mario or Zelda though. These games can be played by anybody, and the company knows that. These elements in the game are appreciated by all ages. The best aspect of Pokemon to me is the monster designs. Whenever a new mainline game releases, I love catching my new favorite mons and going through to see what they've added in the game. There is lots of story, a certain amount of depth, and it doesn't matter if the RPG elements are the same every game.

Get back to your containment board you deluded man pokemon is and always has been for kids.

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I've dropped Pokémon but have been playing a lot of monster hunter recently. Wouldn't it be fucking rad to fight giant Pokémon with swords and bows and shot?

>>376340126
theres no depth once you come up with the optimizations, and you can just look up the most efficient methods online

>>376340370
It's for all ages to enjoy.

>>376330937
we need to lean from landot
Sometimes, we are, our own worst enemies.

>>376324586
because i started playing it as a little kid, i loved it to death back then, so i still love it now, even if not with the same wonder. Same goes for old classics like spyro 2, crash, diddy kong racing, the first mario etc. playing them takes me back to that time.

>>376335365
They added depth when they transitioned back to 3D

My wife and I enjoy playing them together. It's more fun when you avoid all the new pokemon reveals and just play to see the new monsters.

>>376335719

Nice job at overtly simplifying the troublesome mechanics. Lets take a real look at how shit happens:

Lets see how you switch characters in the middle of a battle in other RPG, like in FFX.
You hit a button, a small selector appears immediately showing available party members, you select one and the guy comes over and swaps places immediately, taking no less than 3 seconds to happen.

In pokemon, you have to:
Hit the change pokemon button
Wait for the screen to fade to black and switch to the pokemon selection menu, covering all the screen
Shuffle through the pokemons
select one
confirm thats the one you want
wait for the battle screen to show up again
see a shitty animation of your pokemon disappearing, and another animation of your trainer throwing the new ball
pokemon swapped, by the way that action costs a turn so its time for the enemy to attack now.

It takes like 10-15 seconds to make a fucking swap, thats fucking unacceptable

I agree that death preventing you from getting xp is not necessarily bad, but the way pokemon handles its battles makes it really bad. Because switching pokemons costs a turn, it basically means it's impossible to level up a low level pokemon without backtracking, because as soon as you switch to get him some experience, he gets blasted away right as he shows up. I applaud that change in gen 6, they obviously knew something was wrong

I suppose your status effect rant was also about the new gens, up until green leaf, every single status would linger after battle. Theres actually a cave where every wild pokemon has a paralysis attack, I got in, they paralyzed my pokemon in one hit, I swapped to a new one, and because that wastes a turn, my new pokemon got paralysis as well, because the fucking shit has a 100% proccing chance, so I swapped again, and the same shit happens because the paralysis attack is the standard one for the pokemon. In the end a single pokemon paralysed my entire party

>>376340380
Pocket Monster Hunter is something that I've always wanted for over 7 years at this point. Obviously there would need to be some changes such as no blood because Nintendo and TPCi wouldn't appreciate people being able to hack up their critters.

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>>376341294
>Because switching pokemons costs a turn, it basically means it's impossible to level up a low level pokemon without backtracking,
Are you literally retarded? You put the lil one in first and then you switch to your main to take the hit. The fucking npcs taught me this when I was a child.

>>376324586
I know quite a few people who play them only for the single player. Not sure why, since I pretty much just play the single player as a means to get the most out of online. Not saying that single player is necessarily bad, because Sun & Moon's was pretty great, but there are way better single player RPGs out there. Like, say, 90% of them.

The pokemon games are really relaxing. My only complaint is that the new ones generally don't have many new Pokemon.

>>376339003
>does that make me a non-adult or have a mental disorder?
Yes

>>376325810
Kill yourself.

>>376341294
>It takes like 10-15 seconds to make a fucking swap, thats fucking unacceptable
I'm gonna assume you're just simply bad at video games instead of being mentally retarded. The Pokemon selection screen hasn't covered up all of the screen nor has it faded to black for over a decade now, seeing as Pokemon has been on two handhelds that have two screens. And it takes 5 seconds at the VERY MOST between the animation of switching and the Pokemon being sent out.

>in the end a single pokemon paralysed my entire party
which is your fault seeing as Ground types are immune to Thunderwave so you shouldn't have to be paralyzed if you at least carried a geodude with you, and starting in 3rd gen was abilities, one of which makes you immune to the paralysis status. Status effects are a thing in every RPG ever, and just like in every RPG there are consumable items as well as held items/equipment to prevent or cure said ailments. Plus in Pokemon its so easy to make money as you can farm items who's whole purpose is to sell for lots of money, you always obtain an Amulet Coin starting in Gen 3 which doubles the amount of money you earn from battles, and curative items like Paralysis Heal cost 300 pokedollars, which is stupidly cheap. If you're having trouble with status aliments outside of the very first games where it really was a bit of an issue because your item slots were very limited and money before the e4 was limited, it's entirely your fault.

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>>376324586
>Do other people actually enjoy doing things I don't?
really made me think

>>376340456
That's true for any game with "depth"

>>376324586
>there's no depth in the gameplay
Maybe in the main playthrough since it's actually suited to let the kids beat the game. Postgame challenges and actually battling other players is a whole different level.

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>>376324586
>there's no depth in the gameplay
battling other players and breeding

there are active and well developed online communities and databases dedicated to the battle meta and breeding mechanics, like smogon and psypoke, and I sincerely doubt many children read into the game that much.

just a little research and you would've found the answer to your question.

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>>376324586
It's fun and when gamefreak makes a good game, the exploration is what makes it worth it. Plus the threads are great though you aren't wrong

>>376338742
how is VGC now? I haven't played in half a year because there's novody to go to tournaments with around me now.

>>376324586
>It's not like Mario and Zelda which are for ALL AGES

Except they aren't. You just hate Pokemon and shill for Mario and Zelda and want to make an excuse for playing them, they're all childrens games you fucking manchild.

>>376343605
change /vr/ to 2 guys fighting over Earthbound/Ocarina of Time/Megaman X being overrated.

>>376325810
>/soc/

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Drayano's romhacks for HG/SS and Gen 5 are the definitive Pokeyman experience, you can't prove me wrong

>All pokeymen available to catch, now with improved stats and/or movepools
>Manages to be slightly challenging
>General quality of life improvements

>>376344535
>General quality of life improvements
Go on

>>376344857
Well off the top of my head you get the bicycle right away and there's options to speed up various things

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>>376324586
Because its fun

op is probably long gone but
>on /v/
>complains about manchildren
the same man babies you complain of are probably the same people you play lol with

>>376324586
Mostly because the lore is interesting and the metagame is very depth.
However, the in-game has been ruined during the last 2 generations.

>>376324586
I replay the old ones and set challenges for myself.

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>>376345886
>implying the game was ever hard in-game
No, you were just a babby during the DS generations.

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>>376324586
Pokemon Blue was my first video game.

I played up until Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, got tired of them because it was basically the same game with the exact same structure with very little differences. I never had a "Ugh I'm too old for Pokemon now" period, I literally just got tired of it. I still play Zelda.

>>376347749
You do know the mainline games are 3 years apart from each other. It's hard to believe every 3 years you got tired of the game when it was literally supposed to be a fresh new experience with the mechanics you already know. What a retard.

they're mostly furries and mental children in arrested development >>376324832

there is nothing redeeming about a pokemon game

the 'competitive pokemon' fags are a whole different league of autism though, like, they're fucking sperg to the max

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>>376348406
have a pumpkin for your disability

>>376325458
pokemon players are actually the normies

every college age to mid 30s nu male redditor loves this shit

>>376332474
Didn't a showdown mod literally use a win button once? I could have sworn that it happened at some point

>>376348498
go back to your containment board furry

you literally have like 3 containment boards for your furry shit, stop taking it here

>>>/vp/ for your shitty game
>>>/b/
>>>/trash/

>>376348126
>It's hard to believe every 3 years you got tired of the game when it was literally supposed to be a fresh new experience with the mechanics you already know.

Well I did. Pokemon felt like it started spinning its wheels very quickly. Meanwhile when I was playing Zelda I was blown away with how much risks it was taking, which is why I was so disappointed with Twilight Princess.

TP is actually a good example because it reminded me of the Pokemon sequels, it just felt like "more of that shit you wanted" instead of trying to break new ground.

>>376348739
my pumpkin isn't a furry, sir

>>376348884
That's why Sun and Moon is great.

>>376348894
xD got me m'sir

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I can see the appeal in pokemon, monster collectors are fun and I like the pokemon designs, but ever since the jump to 3D, I feel the series has lost me, just don't enjoy it as much as I used to
Picked up yokai watch as a new monster collector though, its pretty fun

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>>376324586
It's a low effort investment game that has high replay value. I'm aware of how casual it is, but if I just want to have a good time I'd rather play that then dredge through, say, SMT.

Not that hard to understand.

>>376346443
I was not talking only about the difficulty, but it is still a big problem with the current games.

>>376349379
>Yokai Watch

That one is also for children.

>>376324586
Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development.

i got alot of free time in my jobb so its just a way to kill time.

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>Ash Ketchum
>Ash Catch'Em

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>>376350801
>squirtle
>squirting turtle
>squirrel turtle

>>376349528
Nah, Sun and Moon are legit more challenging than any of the DS games, even if they're still not hard.

>>376350247
not alot of monster collecters that aren't though

>>376341453
Make the weapons charged with pokemon power.
E.G. a lance that has electricity from a Raichu stored in it.

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>>376350950
>Charizard
>Charred izard
>Charred Lizard

>Charmander
>Charred salamander

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>>376324586
>it's not like Mario or Zelda which are for ALL AGES

>>376332713
You're a retard.

I am now on the 5th day of trying to get through the intro of pokemon sun. does this game get fun at anypoint im booooooooored

>>376351332
Pretty much this.

Pokeballs inserted to a weapon and drawing energy from a Pokemon's moves.

>>376324586
I like the games. I don't play them any more than 60 hours or so. Play the online competitive things like showdown more. I like the porn too.

>>376324586
i used to, but stopped enjoying them after gen v with B2/W2. it was always for kids, but when gen vi came along, it REALLY was for kids and the most casual of casuals and normalfags. it's almost as if they're saying kiddie shit isn't allowed to have extensive content and that it was okay to strip the newer games of that kind of content that was present only one generation before

B2/W2 were simply the best of the best. gens iv and iii were good, too. i and ii were good for their time, and gens vi and on are gutter trash

>>376350950
>Bulbasaur
>Bull bizarre
It's a wierd bullfrog

>>376341453
Defeating Pokemon still follows the catch or faint rules, and instead of hacking them for parts they just drop items or materials.

Though in some cases, Pokemon like Slowpoke will drop their tails or Grass Pokemon would drop berries or herbs.

>>376350986
Ok, I was talking more about the gen 6 games, because I still don't play Gen 7 and don't count them most of of time because of that.

I played Yellow and Gold as child and came back to play Black years later but Black sucked.

Tedious gameplay, Pokemon were crappy designed (I guess the old ones are too but I was a child and my standards were much lower) and the story was totally ignorable.
I played worse games but I will never touch a Pokemon game again, the magic is gone.

>>376352082
Fuck that, I want full hyper-realistic big game hunter simulator where the buck shoot lightning and junk. Hunting shit like agron using a truck to lead it through license-grade explosive traps. Bird shooting portion where after shooting a few down the big one swoops down and starts setting shit on fire, and YOU wanna kill it for that six hundred and whateverth space in your trophy hall

>>376338742
Smogon has 1 genie, VGC has 2. Try again bud.

>>376352494
gens iii-v were the best. you just picked one of the lesser ones out of a good lot of them. but yeah, honestly, move on from pokemon like you already have

>>376324586
People who say Pokemon is popular because of specific gameplay aspects or because of the competitive side of the main series, which is enjoyed by maybe less than 5% of the total playerbase are utterly delusional.

The series main strength lies in it's character design. Nothing more, nothing less.

Like you had this little fad called Pokemon Go last summer, which had pretty much no gameplay and was for all intents and purposes a glorified ball throwing simulator, yet people still ate it up like mad because it had hundreds of characters they know and love. Niantic previous game (Ingress) which had mostly similiar gameplay to Go was nowhere near as successful as a simplified Ingress clone with a Pokemon skin they released later.

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It's marketed towards children, but it's rated E for Everyone. Take that however you will.

>>376353752
why did you crop serena out?

>>376353910
So we can focus on the important things

>>376354112
b-but she's the one applying the make up!

>>376352618
You can't do that. The licensing is very strict.