This is the Back to the Future 2 of video games.

But why did they fuck up the lockon?

>>376126662
That's one of the most accurate things I've ever heard.

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>tfw you discover Bayonetta lore.

Everything else just feels shallow now.

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>>376126662
What?

>>376127104
My brethren. I hope Bayo 3 will be all about inferno and Queen Sheba.

>>376126662
Does this mean Bayonetta 3 will be a disappointing sequel?

>>376127691
It means Bayonetta 2 was already a disappointing sequel.

>>376127747
Fag.

>>376127814
But he's right.

>>376127921
Disappointment is completely subjective. It's certainly not a bad game by any rational standard.

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bayonetta 3 will be the tmnt 3 of the franchise

>>376127691
Movie rules do not apply to video games.
The third movie in a movie trilogy is usually shit, but that is not usually true for video games is it?

>>376128089
It's a noticeable step back from the first.

>>376128749
>It's a noticeable step back from the first.

Eh, it has a better OST, Bayo and less Kamiya bullshit.

I would say Bayo1 and Bayo2 have their own unique set of problems.

>>376129614
>OST
I disagree

>>376131004
No you don't

>>376129614
>Eh, it has a better OST, Bayo and less Kamiya bullshit.
It also has less Kamiya magic.

i like the first ost more, especially the old theme remixes like space harrier theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2xZoKRjb4M
this part was so cool

>>376131441
I definitely do. Fly Me to the Moon > Moon River. Also Tomorrow is Mine gets very annoying after awhile.

Hopefully Bayonetta 3 has Blue Moon.

>>376128324
Muh Effect 3

I haven't played Bayo 2.

Does anyone wanna actually explain what's worse about it, systems-wise?

>>376133081
But isn't that series just movies with menus in the middle?

>>376133337
If you enjoyed the first it is certainly worth a go.
I never got good enough at either game to be able to point out system flaws, but the sequel is noticeably easier.

>>376133337
More reliance on witch time and infinite climax making tortures pointless are my only gripes.

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>Does anyone wanna actually explain what's worse about it, systems-wise?

The biggest problem with Bayonetta 2 is that they made Witch Time completely mandatory instead of a crutch. The game even acknowledges this itself because Infinite Climax no longer disables it.

Basically, there are enemies that are total anti-fun. They'll dodge almost everything and break out of combos instantly. So what do you do? Wait for attack, dodge, witch time, punish, repeat. There are other problems like Umbran Climax being way too powerful and basically rendering Torture Attacks obsolete, but the whole Witch Time thing is by far the biggest issue. Bayo2 is still a fun game though, but yeah it's sad because it's kind of a "one step forward, two steps back" game.

>>376126662
What did he mean by this?

>>376134151
for
>>376133337

>>376133656
>Tortures pointless
They already WHERE pointless.
Like the only thing you ever see 'good' people us that on is a final foe to just squeeze out just a FEW more points as they where dead anyway. Turture attacks where that always 'cool to look at, but no one ever does them' ordeal.

>>376134547
were*

>>376127747
I notice faggots who say this are saltyfags.

>>376134547
They were also good for getting out of from a tough spot. Especially when you have three gracious and glorious on your ass.

>>376134863
The same is true in Bayo2, where using umbran climax may do little damage to some of the tougher enemies and actually give them the opportunity to hit you and waste your precious umbran climax time and leaving you open to some wrecking after it's over, while a torture can give you a small breather, remove a huge chunk of even the toughest enemies, besides bosses, if not outright kill them, and leave you better off afterwards.

>>376135281
>where using umbran climax may do little damage

But that's the thing though, Umbran Climax not only has crazy AoE, it also does very good damage to boot.

Even if there's just two enemies on screen 95% of the time Umban Climax is the right choice.

Umbran Climax changed the whole balance of the game, with the game expecting you to use it, meaning enemies are faster, block far more often, have much more health and the combo requirements are much higher.

On the surface level Bayonetta 1 is a fair bit harder when going for those higher difficulties and getting the best scores Bayo 2 is harder, and not necessarily in a good way.

I can't even seem to pure plat verse 1 of the Prologue in Bayo 2.

>Bayonetta gets progressively powerful hence making the game a tad bit easier
>hurr it's worse than 1

>>376127104

Tfw dante and bayo have the same mom

>>376136106
They don't though.

Bayo's mom is Rosa.

Dante's mom is Eva.

They were however part of the same clan apparently.

>>376136214
got the same job offer source too, enzo

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>>376132669
>jet level was cool
are you trying to piss me off?

>>376136014
Playing with Rosa on 3rd climax is fun, but its pure suffering on Infinite climax, unless you have the bracelet of time

>>376134151
So, just like Back to the Future 2?

>>376137616
But that's not the jet level, it's the missile ride. The jet level is in Bayo 2.

>>376137978
You know what i meant, missile level in bayo1 was absolutely horrible

>>376134268
It's not as good as the original, but still really good.
The story envelops the previous game past and future and also has a time loop.

>>376138047
It was alight, it just went on for way too long.

How do I get good at Bayo1?

>>376138356
PPKKK

>>376128324
Captain America and Toy Story are notable exceptions. Thor looks like it may have traded two bad movies for a great third movie

>>376138431
PKP is better.

>>376138047
i was talking about the scene and transition itself with the music, not the entire gameplay sequence

I like how being able to time travel in Bayonetta is sort of hand-waved away like it's no big deal.

Was it ever explained even a bit?

>>376138776
She freezes time while slowing time around what's frozen. I think time travel is no big deal compared to that.

>>376138464
>Captain America and Toy Story are notable exceptions.

Civil War was shit though.

Bloated mess that could barely keep it together.

>>376139032
>>>/tv/

but BTTF is the perfect trilpgy

>>376139818
>but BTTF is the perfect trilpgy

How can it be perfect when only two of the movies are good?

>>376140229

There is no bad BTTF movie

>>376140462
>There is no bad BTTF movie

Yes, but only two are good.

Can someone explain the fucking plot to this game?

I played both of them 2 years ago and just now I remember the ending of Bayo 2 being a bit of a paradox, or am I just fucking dumb?

>>376140659
God wanted hi powers but he was evil. He made Bayos daddy his pawn to get his powers back from the kid and Bayo. Future Bayo has to deal with him with daddy helping.
Daddy seals god in him and goes back to the past, and then he makes Bayo 1 happen. Then he wakes up because of past Bayo 1 lipstick bullet, and prevent evil god from leaving his body. The beginning of Bayo 2 is Bayo daddy dying with evil god inside him.
We never get to see Jeanne become his nun.

>>376140659
>I played both of them 2 years ago and just now I remember the ending of Bayo 2 being a bit of a paradox, or am I just fucking dumb?

No, you're not stupid; Bayonetta's story is convoluted as fuck.

That's partly thanks to the shoddy writing though.

>>376141006
>Bayonetta's story is convoluted as fuck.

I take it you haven't played Killer is Dead then if you think Bayonetta story is convoluted.

>>376138464
Civil war was worse than the previous 2 Captain movies.

>>376141334
Everything is worse than Spiderman 2.
Nothing can match the accuracy of Spiderman 3.
There is no pattern.

>>376128324
Usually true, although LotR: Return of the King was the best one. (Fellowship is a close second).

I genuinely enjoyed all of the back to the future movies

except for doc's train scene at the end of 3, that was stupid

>>376141987
How is RotK better than Fellowship?

>>376141987
>Return of the King
>Best

It has aged terribly compared to Fellowship.

>>376142213
>>376142379
Probably just comes down to my own personal preference, although I enjoyed the pacing of RotK more than Fellowship. I also think the high points of RotK really translated well from the book to film.

>>376141281
>One story being more convoluted than another means the other isn't convoluted
A+ logic.
Not only is the story in Bayo convoluted it's embarrassingly bad.

>>376132901
Bayo2 OST is better simply due to the fact that they got an actual english singer rather than a japanese lady singing in engrish

>>376127691
>>376127747
But I liked all of the Back to the Future movies.

>>376142809
I'm not that guy, but I don't think people really play Bayonetta for the story. I didn't even pay attention to the story when I played it. The story is just there at the bare minimum to drive the action gameplay.

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But if Rodan was in the coffin, the who was Hupty-Dumpty?

>>376143089
Neither do I, I'm just saying him saying "you haven't played X game so Bayonetta isn't convoluted" is a retarded argument.
I've played through the first Bayo ten times and skipped the cutscenes everytime after my first play through, it's stupid how much exposition is in the games though seeing as it's not the focus of the game at all. I just want to style on angels.

>>376143253
Yeah you're right, it's not an argument that really holds much weight. I don't think Kamiya cares about story in his games, which is completely fine I think. Action games like that don't need much of a story.

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>>376143092

>>376127691
But 2 was a disappointment. Here's hoping bayo 3 is the dmc3 of the bayo serise.

>>376144139
It won't be if Kamiya isn't directing.

Is there like a blog or a video that goes into detail on why Bayo 2 is worse mechanically?

>>376144810
>Got any shitposting material so I can validate my decision to not play this game?
Make your own video.

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>>376144810
Start with this, then go read from Yoshesque's AskFM. Someone else gave a detailed rundown on NeoGaf as well that's easy to find if you search.

>>376133337
All enemies block your combos midstring and you're forced to rely on witch time to kill anything

>>376144950
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

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>>376145024
Why haven't you bought her game yet?

>>376136050
Outside the BoT you're much weaker in 2 than in 1.

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>>376126662
I preordered the First Print Edition.

I still haven't finished Bayo1 or even opened Bayo2.

>>376145324
Because I'm sure as shit not buying a Wii-U now that Cemu is around and already runs it so well..

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>>376144964
>ywn have an autistic bayo gf that goes on fullblown essay rants when asked what her beef with Bayo2 is.

Why even live?

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>>376145410
>not buying a Wii U for her

>>376145680
Bayo 2 isn't even in the top 5 Wii U games.

>>376145762
Shut up faggot.

Is there any reason not to use the Scythe in Bayo 2? It seems to always be better because of its aoe punch combos. I'm legit asking


Got both for the Wii U. Haven't played Bayo 1 since 2009 so I remember next to nothing about it

Will be interesting to see how the mechanics differ

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>>376145680
>>376145762

It's not even the best Platinum WiiU game

>>376145762
>1. Breath of the Wild
>2. Splatoon
>3. Pikmin 3
>4. W101
>5. Bayo 2

>>376145656
So like Mikekob

More varied setpieces but much weaker than the first part?

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>mfw discovering the durga+kilgore glitch for the first time

>>376129614
Aside from the obvious two tracks and the ones carried over from 1, bayonetta 2's tracks sound like theyre from a generic action movie

>>376146417
Tropical Freeze is much better than Bayo 2.

>>376146894
Trop Freeze is good, just not great like Bayo 2.

Fly me to the moon > Tomorrow is mine

A certain Gachimuchi vid helps the first song

>>376147000
>Bayo 2
>Great
The only thing it did better than the first was remove instadeath QTEs and use color.

>>376147000
bayo 2 is dogshit compared to tropical freeze im just fuckin around they're both great

tropical freeze is fucking garbage lmao

>>376146348
>Is there any reason not to use the Scythe in Bayo 2
Rodin is the best weapon by a mile and chainsaws/whips on the other weapon set complement it.

>>376147758
Don't have it yet

Last weapon I got was the single whip. Haven't bought the second one yet. I thought these were all the weapons you get? Fug. That's dope. However thanks for the info

>>376147758
>Rodin
If I could just beat that black bastard.