Switch sales poor compared to Wii and Wii U

>>375879774
What the fuck those software sales

>>375879774
Kek

>Switch sales poor compared to Wii and Wii U
How, when it's equal to both despite launching in March instead of the holidays?

>>375879774
>Site doesn't want me to use adblocker

Fuck this.

It'll outsell the Wii U because it's a handheld

I fully expect it to do far worse than the 3DS though. I think it will be lucky to break 30m

no gaems

>>375879774
they wont let me read the story cause i have adblock, do the wii u and wii software sales also count the games the consoles came bundled with or just actual software sales?

>>375880854
>launching in March instead of the holidays
This has never been an issue for Nintendo products. Drones don't care what time of year it is. 3DS sold far more in the same timeframe than the Switch is selling and it launched in March too.

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> a console’s early days are always when its biggest fans are most likely to buy it. Nintendo clearly has more of those rabid fans than most companies, but how well it can make the Switch appeal to everyone beyond that fan base will determine how well it sells in the long-term

Couldn't have put it better myself. Switch is selling well because it has BotW and MK8 and when's the last time a Nintendo console has had actual games worth owning in its first year?

Whether Switch maintains its momentum is a gigantic question mark, and will depend entirely on whether or not non-fans give a flying fuck.

Wii sold 50m units in only 2.5 years. there is no chance that switch closes to wii

>>375880887
30m is pushing it. Nintendo consoles usually now have a reasonable cap at 15m to 20m. It'll be a gamecube without any good exclusives and less third party support

People should realize the type of people buying this console aren't real gamers, they are the normie facebook/reddit/mega casual mobile crowd who are cashing in on the lenostalgia4Nintedo fad, they don't stick around or purchase software long term and before reggie knows it they'll be going back to candy crush and watching twitch streamers play leauge and dota before he knows it

The projection of the Switch looks bad, real bad like not even reaching hardware sales of the Xbox one type of bad. It's just a shame so many unsuspecting people will be suckered into buying a garbage tablet

>>375879774
Kimishima mentions this in his investor briefing. First question.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2017/170502e.pdf

>comparing Q4 launch to Q1 launch
Nice bait

>>375881234
>whether or not non-fans give a flying fuck
They dont. I expect another decline for nintendo.

No shut faggot it because they did release in holidays. Sale are should be big in December. An little kids don't have job

>>375879774
>Comparing Q1 sales to Q4

You don't think Switch will sell a lot more during Q4 once it actually has a decent library?

>>375880970
>Drones don't care what time of year it is.
kids with no money do
>3DS sold far more in the same timeframe than the Switch is selling and it launched in March too.
also way cheaper

>>375881427
>decent library
lol?

>>375881321
>>375881349
>>375881427

I'll laugh my ass off when the sales they make off Mareoh are only a million or less while the PSQuad pulls out another 5 millions with Destiny bunduru.

>>375879774
Does this include digital games too?

>>375881286
What a retarded comment. Most normies don't even know what a Switch is.

>>375881583
I never said the majority of normies know about it, I said the majority of people buying it are normies even if a small group of normies buy a gimmick tablet they are still normies. Nintend has been advertising all over reddit and places where casuals gather like baseball and facebook.

Thats the audience they want and they are getting some of it to their own detriment

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>>375879774
>comparing Q1 to Q4 aka holiday sales

>>375881286
You're baiting, but given the way that NES thing sold... maybe there's a kernel of truth in what you say.

This thread is cute.
Full of kids thinking that they can predict the future at all.

>>375879774
This doesn't look like particularly bad news. It sold well despite shortages and despite launching late into its calendar quarter. It's not going to dethrone the runaway success of the PS4, but it's not an abject failure either.

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>>375879774
>>375880938
It doesn't say.

>>375881897
Should we call patcher or superdata?

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Yeah okay. PS4 can't even beat MK8 and that's with Persona 5.

So physical software sales are down.

What a fucking shocker.

It's not news to anyone that Switch only really had ONE physical release the first two months.

>The Nintendo Switch's strong start continues. Last week, the gaming giant announced that its new console sold 2.74 million units from its March 3 release date to March 31, the end of Nintendo's latest quarter. As this chart from Statista shows, that puts the Switch right up there with Nintendo's last two consoles, the Wii and Wii U, after their respective first quarters. (This is accounting for the discrepancies in availability between the three.)

>To be clear: This is good news for Nintendo. The company originally predicted it would sell 2 million Switch units in its first month - which helps explain why it's used planes to ship enough to meet demand - and it's doing it all well outside of the holiday season, when the Wii and Wii U got their starts.

>Nintendo is also pulling off this sales feat with just two big games out for the Switch: a stellar new "Zelda" title, and a recently-released "Mario Kart" update. But that's been enough for a Nintendo fan base that increasingly appears to be very pent up: "Breath of the Wild" has outsold the console on its own, and Nintendo said on Monday that almost half of all US Switch owners bought "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe" on launch day alone. The huge demand for anything Nintendo is part of why the Switch's console sales are on par with the Wii and Wii U even as its software sales are about half as high.

>Still, the fact that early Switch sales are on par with the Wii and Wii U is worth remembering. The former was the biggest success in the company's history; the latter was an abject failure. The wider context of the tech industry played a role in each of those results, but a console's early days are always when its biggest fans are most likely to buy it. Nintendo clearly has more of those rabid fans than most companies, but how well it can make the Switch appeal to everyone beyond that fan base will determine how well it sells in the long-term.

>>375881463
>$250
>way cheaper

>>375880772
What do you expect, it only has one game.

>>375879774
I'm thinking it would be selling more if there was any actually around

>>375882085
That's a lot of meaningless chatter.

>>375882031
These are Japanese figures. Persona 5 launched there last year.

>>375879774
>2 top selling games of 2017 are both Switch games
>It's gonna flop
Fucking delusion.

>>375882031
Persona 5 came out in Japan last year, everyone already bought the game dude.

>>375882305
mario and splatoon arn't even out yet

>>375882375
Everyone's forgetting ARMS

>>375882403
I wonder why

Fake news

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>>375879774
Wow it's almost like the economy getting worse is affecting sales

>it's another "/v/ tries to predict the future" thread

>after saying the Switch was going to be DOA

>after saying MK8D was going to flop

I wonder how much longer before ass-blasted sonybros start crying "Sales don't matter!" again like during the PS3 days

>>375881995
They're just as good as this thread at predicting the future.

>>375879774
>this is the last tiny bit the doomsayers can cling to

Pathetic nonsense.

>>375882305
>2 top selling games of 2017 are both Switch games
this isn't even true you idiot
do drones just make shit up now? or is this just blatant m

>>375882458
>"Sales don't matter!" again like during the PS3 days
Or like drones during the Wii U days

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>>375882501
Damn nigga, truth hurts, huh?

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ITT: Nintenbabbies scrambling

>switch has paid online
>there's only 2 games to play online for the entire year and next year and one is a port

Recipie for disaster

>5 million software sales in just 2 months

Admit you're just trying to shitpost

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>>375879774
>Q4 adjusted
>Q4 Adjusted
>Q1 actual

>(on aggregate)

nice bar graph you got there

>>375879774
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
MY CONSOLE HAS NO GAAAAMES

>>375882598
>amazon
try again retard.

>>375882429
Now, you're babbling. Seriously. Reword what you're saying, cause you're jumping around too much and being far to vague.

>>375882716
Adjusted meaning they subtracted a percentage from the Wii and Wii U quarted sales to match up with the Switches current sales since the Switch hasnt been out for an entire quarter yet.

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>>375882716
Adjusted for timeframe of sale periods to match no. of days on market.

Nintendo literally considering honorable suicide.

>>375881286
You have nit read any actual projections.
You sir are full of shit

>>375880772
Breath of the Wild was a system seller it basically accounted for half the software sales over 2.5 million. So on average someone bought a switch with BotW and 1 other game.

>>375882403
No one cares about ARMS except the 5 autists who constantly repost the same threads in a desperate attempt to force hype.

>>375880854
W-WELL, UH! SHUT UP! A WOJACK WILL SHOW YOU!

>>375882598
>most popular game on Amazon
>only 186 reviews
Something doesnt seem right.

>>375882031
You're not very smart, are you?

>>375882458
>"Sales don't matter!"
Let me know when switch sells 60 million

>>375882923

>end at 2014

>>375879774
>q1 vs q4
false flag

>>375882716
Do you have any idea what those words even mean?

>>375883005
>muh holiday season
Switches sales would still be the same since Nintendo doesnt know how to manufacture enough products to meet demand.

Calling it now, Switch's first holiday will be the worst in Nintendo device history because all the fans already bought theirs

>>375882923
Sony is expecting the biggest profit in gaming history (beating Wii+DS) next fiscal year.

Are you gonna update this chart?

>>375880772
Nintendo systems have had the highest attachment rates since DS. Boggles the fucking mind how much people spend on Nintendo games more than they do Playstation and Xbox games.

>>375881286
>who are cashing in on the lenostalgia4Nintedo fad
>cashing in

I don't think you know what that term means.

>>375883028
do you?

The last two digits of my post will tell how many units the switch will sell.
And this post will be just as precise as any other post in this thread.

>>375882923
So Nintendo is the richest out of the two but has the fewest games to play. Sony is poorer but somehow has 10x the amount of games to play.

>>375882885
>>375882879
>Q4 vs Q1
>Match up
riight

>>375882429
>most games that come to switch will also be on 3DS

Literally what?

>>375883098
Is that even true? I read that vita has an insane attach rate.

>>375882601
And I get to watch the silly console warriors battle it out. Enjoy, little one.
Sincerely, an idort

>>375882970
Let me know when the PS4 breaks 100 million

>>375883354
See you in a year.

>>375883354
How much did Wii U sell again?

>>375879774
>switch has been available for 87 days
Uh, it's been 61 days.

>>375880772
In the US more copies of BOTW for the Switch have been sold than the Switch itself.

>>375879774
Maybe they should have promoted the Switch as a handheld and not a home console.

>>375883401
>>375883417

Wow, this board is going to be drowning in Sonybro tears this Christmas

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>>375883217
>Sony is poorer but somehow has 10x the amount of games

>>375883627
This board has been filled with toddler tears for 4 years pretending the Wii U was good

>>375883758
delete this

>>375881286

We're 2 months into the Switchs life and we're already getting "It's just a fad, it'll blow over." comments.

Heads are gonna fucking spin this holiday season.

>>375880970
>3DS sold far more in the same timeframe than the Switch is selling and it launched in March too

The 3DS didn't have supply issues.

>>375883758
I remember when the Wii U was shilled just as hard as the Switch is being shilled now. It was pathetic. Now Nintendo fans don't even want to mention the Wii U.

>>375883925
They're undersupplying it because they know the demand isn't there

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>>375879774
Oh wow yet another console wars thread, I wonder what new and original content will be in this thread. Oh wait no it's just a bunch of fucking morons taking a shit in the middle of /v/. But it's okay because everyone else is doing it. If you love your consoles so much maybe you should stick your penis into the disk tray and then close it so you can cut it off so you can show your console waifus that you can't make love to any woman and that your penis belongs to it. Just get off this site and never return, in fact just disconnect from the internet because your lack of brain cells is infecting everyone and bringing humanity down as a whole you useless sacks of shit.

If sales are so bad why can't I find one for my wife's son?

>>375884003
>Now Nintendo fans don't even want to mention the Wii U.
It's actually worse than that. I see countless drones actually attacking the Wii U for being complete shit while in the same sentence complementing how incredible the Switch is despite it only having 2 Wii U ports as games

We're either infested with marketers or drones are the biggest hypocrites known to man

>>375884003
They're literally turning on the Wii U, shitting on it and the people who bought it calling them stupid etc, just to shill the Switch. It's insane.

>>375883904
No third party games means there will be huge droughts after oddesey. Unless Nintendo can port the entire wii U library there will be nothing to play but then it'll just be a port machine and if you own a 3ds or wiiU there will be no reason to own one

>>375880772

>walk into store
>"Once Nintendo Switch please."
>"Sorry sir/madame, we are out of stock."
>"Hmm...may as well buy Zelda while I'm here so I have it later."
>Month later
>"Do you have any Switches yet to go with my game?"
>"No we just sold out again because we only get 5 or 6 at a time."

>>375884003
I remember when the Vita was being shilled as the "3DS killer" on this board

At least Wii U owners had 1st party support up until 2 months ago

How long did it take Sony to abandon the Vita?

>>375880772
Nintendo employees scalping the game

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If there is a big price drop, and it comes bundles with Mario Kart and Zelda i'll probably pick it up

But then i said the same thing about the WiiU, there never was a big enough price drop or good games so i never bought one

>>375884016
>>375884016
Why do you say shit you dont know? The reason they have low supply is because unlike MS and sony they dont use debt to finance their manufacturing.

>>375884275
>At least Wii U owners had 1st party support up until 2 months ago
No, fuck off. You don't get to count garbage like Star Fox Zero and Color Splash as "support."
Wii U support ended in 2015.

>Switch is sold out every where!
>Switch sold less because its not the holidays!
It can't be both.

>>375884139
The why don't you have a switch faggots? It's cause I have a wii u, why would I want to buy the same thing twice.

>>375879774
they're basically on par since the Wii & Wii U released in Q4 and were out for longer before their respective results (although Switch seems to be outpacing Wii U slightly)

the Switch has had a strong launch

but everyone knew this, the real test is the next 9 months - only after it's been out a year and the heavy hitters have been out for a while (MK8D, Splatoon 2, Mario) will we really see how well this thing is doing

>>375881302
" We will also have Super Mario Odyssey out in time for the year-end shopping season, and there may be some more titles we will be able to introduce"

BIG E3 INCOMING

>>375884367
Sure you do.
You dont have to like for it to be support

>>375884367
But I get to count Breath of the Wild since it's "just a Wii U port" according to Sonybros, right?

You still didn't answer my question: When was the last 1st party Sony game released for the Vita?

And if the Wii U was a "scam" like this board claims, what does that make the Vita?

>>375884940
Do Knack and Killzone count as support? No? That's what I thought
>>375884952
Breath of the Wild is better on Switch, it's a Switch game.
I don't own or care about the Vita
And yes Wii U is a scam

>>375885064
Why wouldn't they?

Sorry if I am not as big a cunt as you

>>375884023
capped for future use

no need to thank me, just combating the cancer while concurrently contributing to it

>>375884952
wii U was a scam because it got no games

upcoming games for vita: summon night 6, Ys VIII, Danganronpa 3, Tokyo Xandu, New game from 999 writer

upcoming games for wiiU:

Not that guy but I don't care for first party support, I didn't buy a Vita or 3DS to play Sony or Nintendo games because they are usually casual shit and bad.

>>375879774
hang on....that chart is a lie

the Switch was only available for 28 days in its quarter (March 3-31) and sold 2.74M

so it has sold MORE than the Wii U and nearly as much as the Wii did in a QUARTER of the time it took for them

I just bought one, not even touching it for a month.

It will be a portable Disgaea 5 machine for several months when the weab-ass collector's edition ordered arrives.

Yes I spent that much on a Disgaea 5 machine. I can afford to buy dumb shit.

(It will also be a mario machine whenever that shit drops)

>>375885064
>I don't own or care about the Vita

So literally "It's OK when Sony does it"

Thanks, all I needed to know

>>375885482
>reeeee sony
In literally the same post I said Killzone and Knack are as bad as Color Splash and Star Fox and shouldn't count either.

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>>375884023
As awful and pointless as these stupid console war threads are, they're among the upper tier of threads on this board, because the people here are actually still talking about video games.

>>375885549
In the same post where you called the Wii U a scam but said you didn't care about another gaming device owned by Sony which received objectively less 1st party support than the Wii U received

Again, "It's OK when Sony does it"

>>375885674
Just because it's a higher quality of shit doesn't mean we should tolerate it.

>>375885929
Fine, whatever. Vita's a scam too. Most of /v/ would agree it's a scam but you guys praise the fucking Wii U for some reason. You praise repetitive shallow trash like Hyrule Warriors. You defend the fucking thing getting NO good games in 2016. You get mad at Sony for pandering to sjws while ignoring nintendo doing the same fucking thing (through censorship). It's disgusting to me the hypocrisy I see on this board.

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So Nintendo is basically doing the artificial scarcity strat to try to stretch out the sales. By making it seem like they are always out, Nintendo both creates value for wanting the system while keeping a maximum sale from being reached due to uninterest. Clever girl.

>>375881463
Yeah and guess what Nintendo did at the start of the year after little Billy and Takeshi got their Christmas or New Year's money? They had a huge Switch presentation to entice them to wait.

Launch sales are always the easiest sales to make. This chart proves nothing.

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>>375882598
>Horizon Zero Fun has more reviews than Mario and Zelda

>>375882598
You're losing to PSN store cards.

>>375880772
it literally counts games sold with the system

so wii sports

>>375882923
That's how these big businesses typically work - on credit. They're always trying to invest to scale on their next big move. The fact that they actually have periods of profitability is the sign that they're relatively healthy. For the reverse, see companies like Twitter that have still not made a major exit. Nintendo is a peculiar case, but not entirely unheard of. They're also not the size of Sony.

>>375883094
Seriously, Mario isn't enough to carry them. They'll still make sales of course, because what else this coming Holiday is worth spending ~$500 on and consumption as a whole will still be high, but it's mostly going to rely on their marketing and heavily playing up the few titles they do have.

>>375884139
The biggest idiots are the ones who have both. They completely hypnotized themselves to believe Nintendo is the only vidya worth playing.

>>375888483
>Suddenly spending $500 on a new console isn't reasonable when Nintendo does it

Let me guess, you're factoring in a second controller :3

>>375887496
>Have to pay to play half the games because they're online
>No one trusts Sony with their CC info after multiple breeches
>"Why are people buying so many PSN cards?" You think to yourself

>>375885929
I'm pretty sure everyone who bought the Vita after its launch knew what they were getting: FP support or not. Sony doesn't need to carry their own platforms as much as Nintendo.

>>375879774
It's been literally 2 MONTHS. Get that shit out of here.

>>375888821
It's approximate. I'm saying it's fine because there isn't a lot to spend your $500 Holiday bonus on all at once unique to this year (the option to a fancy dinner or something is always there). I just don't consider Mario as much a system seller as the average r/NintendoSwitch user wants it to be, but we'll see. Splatoon will be bigger in Japan depending on how much the kids there still want to play it.

>>375882625
>ignoring the the games coming out in summer

>>375889759
Those aren't real games.

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>>375879774
>Q4
>Q4
>Q1

really sizzles my synapses

>>375889894
/v/ is so Jewish that they forgot about Christmas.

>it will never hit 30m

KEK

Thiis system will break 100m. Screen cap it. I dare you

>>375888483
>$500

??

How?

There's a big difference, see. The Wii U launched during the holidays, where people would be spending the most money possible.

The Switch launched in March and still sold faster than the Wii U.

>>375890136
$300 plus game plus tax is already pushing $400. Most people probably won't only buy ONE game for their new system.

>>375890206
Yeah. These fags are in for a surprise when Christmas rolls around. The shitposting is going to be great

>>375889894
>>375890060
The Switch launched with the biggest marketing campaign Nintendo ever had. It also launched with Nintendo's flagship game. It should be doing better than just keeping up with the Wii U.

So how come Nintendo has never been hacked, /v/?
Genuinely curious

>>375890328
No it's not? It's not even reaching 400. Even then where does the extra hundred come from? What do you do inside your head?

>>375890381
in fucking March

I don't think you realize, from a business perspective, how different electronics/consoles sell in March compared to the Holiday season.

>>375890206
Wii U barely had any marketing. It didn't launch with a flagship Nintendo title. The Switch should be doing better but it can barely outsell the Wii U.

The Switch literally can not be doing better than it is. All units are selling out. You cant sell more than you make.

>game that doesn't even exist for 1 year hasn't outsold consoles that are more than 5 years old

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>375890453
Wii U had competition in the Holiday season. Switch has no competition.

>>375879774
>Xmas quarter with 2 months vs 27 days in March

Fake news

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It's almost as if the same 2~ million faggots buy new nintendo products every 5 years.

>>375889831
Yes they are.

>>375890591
>Wii U had competition in the Holiday season. Switch has no competition.
Does the PS4 not exist right now?

>>375890417
I'm not going to try to divine what 2nd game and additional peripherals people are going to try and get since they may or may not need paid online or want a fullsized non Joycon controller, so I'm putting $500 as an upper limit.
I'm not replying to anymore of your posts though as they're needlessly inflammatory.

>>375890591
>Wii U had competition in the Holiday season.
Except it didn't, the Xbox One and PS4 were only released a year later and everybody and their mom already had the previous gen consoles.

>>375890206
That's irrelevant. They sold out of all the Switch units so it would still be the same whether its christmas or not

>>375890453
Do you realize the Switch sold out regardless so the season doesn't matter in this discussion?

>>375888921
You're going to have to pay for Switch online Nintentard, and whatever their online solution is most likely won't be up to par with Sony of Microsoft.

>>375879774
>sold as much hardware as wii and wii u despite severly lacking in supply
>sold 5 million copies of one game while wii and wii u had multiple games each on launch
Seems to be doing pretty good

>>375891087
this is a software discussion as much as a hardware discussion according to the OP's pic

assuming Nintendo released the Switch during the holidays and didn't have an increase in units compared the shipment the IRL march launch had, the software sales. both physical and digital, would be through the roof compared to the IRL march shipments

There is a reason Black Friday is in November and not in April or May. the bulk of consumer electronic purchases happens during the Holiday season. This isn't a Nintendo only thing, it applies to the PS4, the Xbone, PCs, handhelds, TVs, etc.

So even if Ninty had the same number of Switch systems in a theoretical holiday launch, their software sales would be on par with the Wii's software sales. fucking Bomberman sold 500,000 units in March. Imagine what it could pull in if it launched in November or December?

When are they actually going to try to sell these in Europe? The price is way too high, I'm pretty sure it's cheaper to import from the US or Japan

>>375891794
>>375879774
>>375880882
>>375880970
>>375882598
Who just unlocks a bathroom door without knocking?

>>375882923
I still don't understand how Nintendo made so much money during one of the worst recessions in modern history.

Did people still have money to buy some Wii Sports box?

>>375891794
>Imagine what it could pull in if it launched in November or December?
Imagine how much it would (not) sell if there were more games on the system

>>375883098
>Nintendo systems have had the highest attachment rates since DS. Boggles the fucking mind how much people spend on Nintendo games more than they do Playstation and Xbox games.

This is utterly false and means nothing the face of the fact that Nintendo sells less much less hardware on average than PS despite the wii/ds anomaly.

>>375879774
>comparing with your self...

>>375884275
The Vita is STILL GETTING GAMES whereas the Wii U is DISCONTINUED! Are you brainfucked my dumb friend?

lmfao those software sales compared to the wii/wii u

switch is done

>>375891979
By releasing a cheap console with a gimmick that normies wanted to try

If there was a 200 dollar console that could do VR and the headset was included with the console, it would sell millions. Unfortunately VR isn't quite so cheap

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>>375879774
Those software sales are going to hurt Nintendo in the long run if that's the trend now it isn't going to get better.

anyone else going to point out that using the quater system the wii and wii u had nearly 2 months to get those sales.

while the switch only has 1 month

>>375892348
The Wii and WiiU were adjusted in the graph

>>375892167
The switch had no pack in game that's why the are a bit low.
Also digital is more precalent

>>375880772
Wii had SO MUCH shovelware, probably more than PS2

>>375881286
I'd argue that the only people buying Nintendo consoles now are idorts.

>>375892439
the switch also has no virtual console support yet

Uh didn't the console release with like 2 games or some shit? Ofcourse the software sales will be low without an online store (which the WiiU had from the start). This seems retarded to me.

don;t you just hate nintendo fans? i don't remember them being this bad when wii u came out. is it the normies who have infiltrated /v/ who have started playing games in the past five years?

>>375892631
that stupid fucking 1-2 Switch game should have been bundled

>>375879774

Oh boy
>Switch released in fucking March unlike Wii and Wii u which were released close to black Friday and Christmas
>Both had onw game included ergo boosting software sales
>Switch demand is still incrwdible high compared to Wii u after 2 months when the wiii u was selling less than 30k units worldwide

Another desperate attempt to bait

>>375892908
nintendo fans do not care when their little console is released. if anything, i think they would prefer times that are busy. it's also the same fucking price on black friday

>>375879774
The only thing this graph proves is how consistently shit nintendo is at releasing enough hardware at launch.

>>375892726
The lack of self awareness you console kids display is absolutely pathetic.

>>375890381
How exactly can it do better when it's sold out?

Reminder that Wii U's sales dropped off a cliff once the holidays ended because nobody wanted one.

>>375879774
>this bait

So Nintendo always launches their consoles with a stock of about 2,6mil.

Thats all you can read out of this, really.
All three systems sold out in their first month back then.

>>375892439
>The switch had no pack in game
Fuck, that explains it.

SW sales in OP's chart includes Wii Sports and Nintendoland.

>>375892435
The fine print at the bottom says it's tracking 87 days for the Switch vs 97 and 100 for Wii and Wii U.

>>375893034

>implying only Nintendo fans bought the Switch

I allrrady pointed out that the switch is selling better tahn the wii u .wii u sales broke down after 5 weeks unlike switch where its nearly impossiblw to get one anywhere

>>375893154
The released so many Wii Us it cost them a lot of money. Remember that infamous quarter where their sales in Europe actually declined because of retailer returns?

>>375890857
??

Yes you need to buy video games. Where does this shit come from

>>375879774
Oh wow yet another console wars thread, I wonder what new and original content will be in this thread. Oh wait no it's just a bunch of fucking morons taking a shit in the middle of /v/. But it's okay because everyone else is doing it. If you love your consoles so much maybe you should stick your penis into the disk tray and then close it so you can cut it off so you can show your console waifus that you can't make love to any woman and that your penis belongs to it. Just get off this site and never return, in fact just disconnect from the internet because your lack of brain cells is infecting everyone and bringing humanity down as a whole you useless sacks of shit.

>>375879774
nintendo wouldn't lie!
reeeeeeeeeeee

>>375879774
>launch quarter

Top fucking kek, can't bait me you cuck

>>375893676
oh noes people discussing a video game console on a video game imageboard

whatever will we do

>>375879774
Wii U had 2 months before it's first report, Switch only had 1 month.

>>375893935
Also, the Wii U even had Christmas to try and boost it. Switch randomly lauches in March of all times.

>>375884378
this
>>375884749
The fact that the Switch released with ZERO competition in an age where gaming is absolutely the biggest it's ever been despite mobile gaming is worrisome - this is why the stock dropped on their financial report as well I think investors were expecting a little more.

>>375890206
If they supposedly sold out it would make no difference
Also the Wii U and Wii had competition whereas the Switch had none - it's a fallacy to mention one point and not the other
>>375890381
this

>>375891547
>sold 5 million copies of one game
Stop being an idiot
>>375891867
>Europe
never

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>Tfw you own a PS4 and a switch because you're not poor as shit

>>375892348
The no of days are on the chart so your assumption is irrelevant
>>375892439
So then either the wii u and wii software sales are artificially inflated or the switch sales are STILL not even on par with them - wither way it's not hot

>>375879774
>more than the wii u
>slightly less than the wii
>switch sales poor compared to wii and wii u

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>>375892908
Dont make me post it tripfag

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>>375894321
>literal plebbitor so sacared of /v/'s banter against his 'tendo that he has to point out that he's on both sides so his feefees won't get hurt

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>>375893513
I told you not to make me post it

>>375894352
No its fine.
Nintendo nor any of the analysts are concerned about it.
It's just you scrubs on the internet

>>375893935
>Switch has been available 87 days
>Wii U has been available for 100 days
No

>>375894617
>Figures are only from the first month because Nintendo hasn't released anything from after March
Yes.

>>375879774
>>>/biz/

>>375879774
And? This isn't a business board it's a video games board you moron.

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>>375894541
>he thinks there are "sides" in playing vidya

>>375879774
>quater sales
Into the trash it goes

>>375894617
I think they're adding up the days of availability in all 3 regions.

Still a fucking Polygon-tier graph since the Switch still gets 10 fewer days and the retards forgot to account for Wii Sports and Nintendoland pack-ins in the software chart.

>implying those aren't great numbers

That's probably 90% of the consoles that shipped out. It's not like the Wii, where they produced too many. The Switch is being sold on a Nintendo made console shortage. You can't expect huge numbers when every store only gets 3-5 consoles.

>>375881348
They're actually advertising and old people know it's not the Wii. It's definitely a step up.

>>375880882
>Not using noscript
The better part is that you also block all those annoying garbage videos news sites like to put everywhere

>>375880772

This is good for the consumer right? It means Nintendo sees it's only Zelda and Bomberman that's moving units, and not their gimicky waggle shit like 1,2,switch or whatever the fuck is called.

That way they wont pull a Wii and focus exclusively on waggle nonsense. Better yet, maybe they'll drop the gimmicky bullshit altogether and don't even look in the audience's direction.

>>375897454

Zelda, Mario Kart and Bomberman*

>>375894617

>Reading comprehension

>>375897513

The Mario Kart sales are not inlcluded in OP pic

>>375897454
The Wii and Wii U software charts are including pack-ins.

sonybro

>>375897454

They seem to be more open to giving people options. ARMS for instance uses motion controls, but you can also play it with a normal controller.

>>375879774
Is there anyone really surprised by this?

>>375879774
Well I'm getting downvoted anyways so I may aswell just say it. Every single of those games aside from Horizon Zero Dawn was quite poor. Zelda being the shitstain that puts the rest to shame. Breath of the Wild is one of the absolute worst games I've seen. I have no idea how adults who have played a single game before it can say they liked it with a straight face. I can't even wouldn't even begin to respect the opinion of someone who said they liked it on anything again. The music was awful, the combat mechanics were awful, the enemies had an AI that doesn't belong in a game of this decade, with very little variety in design or movesets, the puzzles were the opposite of clever. The few bosses actually REUSED models and had no substance in fights, trails were a horrible extrinsic reason to explore the world on top of just plain old sucking intrinsically. The cherry on top was Ganon. Oh my fucking god Ganon was the bit that pushed the game into embarrassingly bad territory. Those final moments where he just stands completely still attacking nothing... I literally dropped my controller, pulled out my phone and started recording for about a minute to show a couple friends just how bad it was. I stood right in front of that giant mother fucker for a good 2 minutes and didn't take a single point of damage. He just shot lazers at nothing in different directions over and over with really annoying music playing, and the utter nonsensical rambling of the living plot device princess zelda vomiting bullshit harping on and on and on about nothing in a mind numbing loop. Seriously Fuck that game. Fuck anyone who liked it... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills seeing the amount of praise it gets. It makes absolutely no fucking sense. It is garbage on a tier all of its own. If you like Breath of the Wild, you have no standards to speak of.

>>375893231
So in other words, Nintendo (correctly) didn't expect it to do well, and thus only manufactured enough to match the wii u's already pathetic sales numbers

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>mfw realizing malstroms wordpress was actually bought by Nintendo and is now a part of the marketing machine

>>375898312
>Nintendo (correctly) didn't expect it to do well
It didn't?

Just to put things in perspective, the PS4 shipped 4.5 million in a month and a half. The Switch, at its current rate, would sell 4.1 million in that time.

Shipping 9% less in March than PS4 did during the holidays is somehow bad?

>>375898486
>The Switch, at its current rate, would sell 4.1 million in that time.
Except it hasn't, because Nintendo had no confidence in it's own new flagship product.

Even if they were to catch up on production, there is no way the Nintendo Shit is ever going to surpass the PS4, and maybe even Xbox numbers in lifetime sales.

>>375898918
All I did was state the fact that, as of the last known data point, the Switch was selling (or rather shipping) at a rate only 9% below that of the PS4.

Considering it launched in March and was coming off the failure of the Wii U, I'd say they produced a pretty reasonable amount of units. And it certainly is selling well thus far.

>there is no way the Nintendo Shit is ever going to surpass the PS4
That would be difficult, what with the PS4 having a 60m unit lead and selling very well in its own right.
>Xbox
That wouldn't be difficult, xbone is only around 30m right now and is basically completely irrelevant in Japan.

>>375891014
You think if they launched 8 months later they wouldn't manufacture more consoles in the meantime to have a bigger stock ready and thus sell more?

>>375897454

Bomberman sold 40k units. It's literally a rounding error. 1 2 Switch sold more than that

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>>375899232
>That wouldn't be difficult, xbone is only around 30m right now

>>375900025
It's the best guesstimate we have right now, I think the last real number we got was 27m in January. For some reason MS stopped releasing sales numbers...

>>375881234
The switch has the momentum of a marble on carpet bro, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>375899829
>[NSW] Super Bomberman R (Konami, 03/03/17) – 3,552 (73,677)

???

ITT: Poorfags who can't afford multiple consoles

>>375900132
I think you've missed the point; whether it's 27m or 30m, it would be quite difficult and unlikely for the switch to EVER EVEN GET CLOSE to those numbers

>>375900619
You can say that when the Switch stops being sold out in every region, or the xbone sells more than 200 units a week in Japan.

Your insistence that the switch won't even reach 30m LTD seems based more on wishful thinking than any actual data.

>>375900619
That would have something to do with Switch launching 3.5 years later

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>Wii was out for 6 weeks in NA
>Wii U was out for 6 weeks in NA
>Compared to 4 weeks for Switch

>The Wii AND Switch had massive stocking problems, you still can't find a Switch, but it's currently outselling the Wii

>>375879774
>quarter
>for the switch
Are you from the future? Who sent the nuke that stopped the worldwide sales tommorow?

>>375880772
>release absolutely no games for console
>why isn't it selling????????

>>375882902
get that bag of dicks ready

>>375894176
>Banter
>Same copy/paste comments day in day out.
Your all the same, Sony people, Xbox people, Nintendo people, Sega people, Atari. Your shill shit was stupid then and it's stupid now. So please take yourself off the internet and masterbate into your dusty old marketing magazine snippets of the old console wars.

>>375900814
>You can say that when the Switch stops being sold out in every region
So never? That seems hardly fair considering that deep down you know it's true
>or the xbone sells more than 200 units a week in Japan.
Japan isn't the only country that buys consoles dumbass, in fact they probably (I'm not certain bc I haven't been able to find any stats comparing consoles sold per country) account for less of the console market than say America or the UK.
>Your insistence that the switch won't even reach 30m LTD seems based more on wishful thinking than any actual data.
Well that is kind of true; I want it to fail miserably mostly for the sweet nintenbaby shills' tears, but I'm also pretty good at recognising trends in markets and populations. Everything that I have seen of the video game market over the past few years and mainstream cultural trends leads me to the conclusion that the switch just isn't going to be that successful. I know it's probably hard to hear, but you're just going to have to accept it.

>>375900883
I was referring to the lifetime sales of each console, so it doesn't necessarily matter how long the other ones have been out for

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>>375904195
>Everything that I have seen of the video game market over the past few years and mainstream cultural trends leads me to the conclusion that the switch just isn't going to be that successful

>>375893873
Discussion would imply that the argument was moving forward when in fact it is the same every single day of every single month of every single year since the dawn of there being two systems on the market. You just put X is better than Y and then sprinkle some false flags covered in shit and bam, console wars thread. Don't pretend that your "discussing" anything because your not. These threads are about as original and copy paste as rage comics.

>>375904267
Good point

>>375904195
>well that is true
Nice job admitting your argument is wishful thinking lel
What a cuckboi

>>375892082
All it's getting now is shovelware and first party support was dropped in like a month. Never paid for itself either.
The vita makes the Wii U look like the pinnacle of gaming

>>375904195
>Well that is kind of true; I want it to fail miserably mostly for the sweet nintenbaby shills' tears, but
>but
No but after outing yourself as a fanatic, kiddo

>>375879774
I don't give a shit about some retarded graphs, I'm still waiting for my Switch from Amazon since end of March.
If anyone is at fault here, it's Nintendo for artificially understocking the damn things.
Yes, I'm mad and I'm slowly but surely thinking about canceling my order, bravo Nintendo.

So fuck off and ram your PS4 up your ass or something.

>>375905091
>it's Nintendo for artificially understocking the damn things.
And do you have proof of this claim?

>>375904195
>So never? That seems hardly fair considering that deep down you know it's true
You realize that if it keeps selling out at the rate Nintendo is currently producing them, the Switch will overtake the XB1 pretty easily?

I know Japan isn't the only country that buys consoles, but they're still the second-biggest country for vidya sales. If the bone isn't selling at all there, but the switch does >20m lifetime there like it probably will, that's a major factor in the Switch overtaking the bone.

>Well that is kind of true; I want it to fail miserably mostly for the sweet nintenbaby shills' tears, but I'm also pretty good at recognising trends in markets and populations. Everything that I have seen of the video game market over the past few years and mainstream cultural trends leads me to the conclusion that the switch just isn't going to be that successful.
So basically you're listening to your feefees.

>>375905091
>Nintendo didn't spend their entire warchest to dedicate half of China's manufacturing capabilities to producing 50 million Switches before release

Absolutely disgusting. Could they be more anti-consumer?

>>375905283
If not then they are just pathetic, simple as that.
Go and look for yourself if you can order one for retail price and don't come up with some bumfuckistan store, all you will find is scalpers otherwise they are still out of stock everywhere.

>28 days vs 2 months

Hmmm

>>375905491
>If not then they are just pathetic, simple as that.
I wouldn't say it's simple seeing as you have no insight as to how long they take to produce our how many they expected to sell.
Also where's that proof?

>It's a "/v/ pretends the Switch isn't selling well" episode

>>375905618
What proof? Did I promise any proofs?
They aren't there, the things aren't availabel, I don't give a shit why, I just want my fucking mario console two damn months after release.

>>375905760
>two damn months after release.
They did say they were doubling production. From my understanding of manufacturing it takes like 3 months for the effects of that to show up on store shelves. Heck it takes 6 weeks just to ship the units from China.

not that guy btw

>>375905760
When making a wild claim one has to offer proof. You clearly have none making your posts nothing more than the cries of a child that's too lazy to go to the store and get one where there are many left.

>>375905980
yeah, they were now aiming for around 16 million before end of year.

>>375906005
What wild claim? He said there was none to be found and thats the truth.

>>375906005
I check the stocks almost daily, there aren't any left at the big retailers in the whole of my fucking country.
I dared you to look it up instead you demand proof for an asumption that of course can't be proven. If I could prove it, I would be either a industrial spy or an employee of Nintendo which in both cases would give me better things to do than to vent my anger at fuckers that claim the things don't sell, while I'm apparently waiting for mine to even be assembled.

>>375894617
Are you retarded? You and whoever made this graph definitely are. The actual data only goes up to March 31st, not any time after. This data does NOT account for April and any of these past 3 days of May.

>>375906087
He was originally spouting the "artificial scarcity" meme.

>>375906042
It was 16 million for the fiscal year.

They could end up close to that for the calendar year though.

>>375887583
That's still only 2 million out of 13 million.

Do you guys think it'll outsell xbox? or fall under it?

>Q4
>Q4
>Q1
Really boggles the noggin...

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>>375883509
Fucking this!! Why is no-one else talking about this? I'm not the biggest Switch-fan (I'll probably buy one in fall when Mario launches) but how the fuck can anyone take this shit seriously when they are a month of in accuracy?

>>375897454
I remember reading 1, 2 Switch sold circa 1 million copies worldwide

Although i guess we should consider in some European countries the game's bundled with joycon sets

>>375907068
I think the chart-maker was combining 29 days for each region. Of course they still fucked up by giving the other consoles larger tracking periods and not accounting for pack-in games.

>>375879774
>the switch with one game has made over 50% what the Wii U did in the same time period with five games
impressive

>release a games console with one game
>it doesn't sell

wow what a surprise

>>375906709
Might want to look up when each console was released buddo.

This goes for all of you, Nintendo fans, PC fans, Sony fans.

How much money would you be willing to put down on your own predictions? If you truly believe them to be absolutely true, you would probably put a lot of money down. So answer honestly, how much money are you willing to put down on your prediction that the switch will fail or not fail?

,

>People think holiday sales will make a difference
You know it will make a bit of a difference but most kids will have forgotten that the switch even exists by then. Also kids aren't as interested in Mario as they used to be they'd prefer CoD or Fifa these days. sad I know

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>>375894321
>tfw don't buy useless shit

>>375898134
>downvoted
underrated pasta, well-earned (You)

>>375879774
But it has around the same sales as the original Wii, which ended up doing really well

>>375908021
Kids and 13 year olds are not the same thing.

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>>375880772
The Switch has software?

>>375897454
Great idea. Make a console centred on gimmicks to the point where it becomes overpriced and then don't use them for fuck all.
Because that worked out great for the WiiU.

The reason all the business people are salivating over these numbers is because pulling them off in Q1 is very different than pulling them off in Q4. It gives the Switch more momentum insofar that it will have a sizable install base and a decent library going into its first holiday season (which is a big fucking deal).


Will it pass the PS4? I think that's way too early to call. But if you don't think it'll be more successful than the Wii U, you're delusional.

>>375882601
is that fucking daym drops

Are there even any exclusives announced for May?

>>375903503
I can find a switch. Want me to go buy one and sell it back to you with a 300% markup?

>>375884840
>there may be some more
>may be
>while they still feel the need to hold back basic things like VC and media apps
Holy shit. Fucking nothing at E3 confirmed.

>>375910448
You can find them but it's hard. I just bought one Tuesday and the guy said people still show up early before the store opens to buy them. He said they received 108 units Saturday for the sale week and that was supposed to carry them through the whole week. I bought the very last one they had Tuesday.

TLDR Zelda is pretty great so far.

Yeah its Q1 but the other consoles had competitors released at the same time when they launched. The switch sales are not that impressive. Also half assing the hardware power will fuck things up in the long run again.

Sonybros should just stick to the usual NEVER EVER Bloodborne threads, because trying to wage a sales war against the Switch is going to blow the fuck back in their face.

>>375911945

>still selling everything they produce
>have to air freight in additional systems to get to stores as quick as possible
>break sales records for best console launch in Nintendo's history
>launch in the "literally when" month of March
>"not impressive"

>>375912058
>Sonybros should just stick to the usual NEVER EVER Bloodborne threads, because trying to wage a sales war against the Switch is going to blow the fuck back in their face.
>Switch is already tracking behind Ps4

What did he mean?

>>375905285
>feefees
kys

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>>375880895
you shut your whore mouth

So wait, all that shit about it outpacing the Wii U to date was just a blatant lie?

>>375910171
More successful than the WiiU? Probably.

But less successful than the 3DS for sure.

>Surpass the PS4
No chance in hell. PS4 is CURRENTLY outpacing the Switch on a month by month basis.

>less than 2 months vs 3
>early year vs holidays

>>375913467
Yep.

WiiU sold 3.5 million 2 months in.

>>375913720
>CURRENTLY
no it doesn't. At all.

>>375913830
Yes it is.

Stop cherrypicking Japanese sales and assuming the reflect the rest of the world.

In the same time frame Switch went from 0 to 2.7 mill, the PS4 went from 56 mill, to 60mill.

>>375913928
Really? Where's your source? The switch sold much more in America as well. Like 600+k more

>>375913749
>thinking holidays make a difference for console launches.

>>375913467
"Fastest seller whithin this arbitrary timeframe we just decided" is the ultimate kind of nonsensical PR spin, my bud.

>>375913467
And the hilarious thing is the WiiU was a bigger piece of trash than the Switch is. The Switch is falling victim to the classic Nintendo market strategy:
>release a half-baked console with no games
>don't advertise the new console anywhere
>artificially restrict distribution of the new console so nobody has it in stock
>desperately rush out new 3DS revisions to stay afloat

Maybe if the Switch actually had any games besides Zelda, and maybe if the hardware concept was just a little bit more thought out so it doesn't do shit like scratch it's own screen or have input lag and disconnects from the controllers, it MIGHT have been worth a look.

>>375913989
Official sources from Nintendo reported 2.7 million, wheras Sony reported to have hit 60 million at the end of April.

It was at 56 in March.

>>375879774
thats because there literally are no games yet

ITS OVER NINTENDO IS FINISHED THIS TIME

>>375884840
I heard that retarded argument beforw. When the wii u was going to be saved by a different titlw evwry 4 months.

>>375913989
>source
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/04/28/sony-financials-lifetime-ps4-sales-reach-60-million/

Shipped 60 mill in March, sold 60 mill 6 days ago.

The fact that despite its honeymoon period, the Switch is unable to slow down the PS4, means it'll never surpass it.

>>375879774
>selling as fast as they can be manufactured
> it's a flop

Never change

>>375883085

I would say software sales would be higher if it was a holiday season, but hardware would be the same.

Switch has no games and will flop

>>375886294

I don't think it's artificial scarcity, more like being very conservative and not overreaching

>>375884275
>damn they're making good points
>better derail the thread to something unrelated
damage control at its finest.

>comparing Holidays to MARCH
You are retarded OP.

>>375914385
>>selling as fast as they can be manufactured
How the hell have you not understood that nintendo fucking understocks? They understock everything, even those faggy amiibos.

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>>375879774
>WiiU and Wii had bundled in games
>Going by quarters
>Its means Switch is counting for less than 1 month when Wii and WiiU counted for Month and a half
Who could have imagine

>>375915746
>that nintendo fucking understocks?
>had to pay air mail to keep up with demand
yeah, paying extra 50$ per console was brilliant move,

>>375914292
its the same anon. dont kid yourself, also
>only source for SOLD units is Sony himself
wow, what a fucking trusty source

>>375915940
>DUDE SONY IS LYING TO THEIR INVESTORS BECAUSE I SAY SO LMAO TRUST ME, I'M A BITTER FANBOY ON THE INTERNET, I KNOW BETTER XD

>>375916861
well given Sony bundles PS3 and PS4 numbers in investors meeting so only their un-official word counts, yes, they can.

>>375882085
>It's a nobody actually read the article thread

>>375904756
Wii U does not have any good exclusives