Just started this. Any tips?

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>>375760630
Fortress is a must have if youre new to EO.
Dont forget to bring aridne threads.
Always check the walls to find hidden shortcuts, really helps you out in the long run

Nightseeker

Don't look anything up until you beat the main game. Just play and have fun.

As long as you have tank + healer + 2 damage + 1 support (or 3 damage) you're fine

Are the remakes a good place to start? My 3ds can download games for free for some reason and I've always wanted to try the series out.

>>375762072
start with 1 if you can find it

start with 4 if you can't

What about tips along the lines of skill investment? I've played Untold 1 before, still playing it actually, very slowly.

Nightseeker can blind/poison/curse and there's an attack with a small chance to insta kill even bosses with an ailment

>>375762259
Find a character you like, and read all of their abilities. It's intuitive enough that you can just make a build based on that. You can't fuck it up, the only time your build needs to be efficient is during postgame and you can just reset their skill points at the cost of 2 levels

>>375762259
Landsknecht's link skills absolutely breaks the game

>>375762572
Not as broken as a properly built Imperial since those aren't dependent on other classes.

>>375762006
Is a qt

>>375760630

Arcanist+Nightseeker are easymodo
Shogun is retard strong too.

>>375760630
Never ever forget bringing a thread. It doesnt matter how poor you are or how tempting trekking back may seem, just dont.

Make sure you catch the crawfish.

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>>375761946
EO4 was my first in the series and I dropped Fort halfway through the game, felt she was useless. Then again it may not have been the smartest choice to put her on the backline. The Medic that replaced her was a much better fit for the party, though.

>>375763260
>Shogun
?

I always found the dancer to be super useful

>>375760630
Cookie cutter landshark link spam power of friendship party is pretty fun

I want to get this game for cute characters dungeon crawling. Does this fit the bill?

Probably not for the cute girls since the narrative is almost non existent but it's definitely good in the dungeon crawling aspect.

This is not FF, status effects and binds are not only useful but downright fucking essential, and work on every enemy including all bosses.

Binds especially will save your goddamn life, head bind prevents enemy magic/concentration-type skills and reduces elemental def, arm bind completely prevents attacks like swipes or weapon attacks, leg bind completely kills enemy evade and prevents leg-based attacks.

It'll give you like 2-5 turns of breathing space against bosses that will otherwise be right on your ass.

Though that said 4 gets easier than other EO games past the 3rd stratum, especially if you're doing all the sidequests and exploring all the caves.

>>375762870
Well yes, but he just started playing. you don't get imperials untill lategame

>>375764448
Do people this dumb beat these games?
Aren't they supposed to be really hardcore or whatever?

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Is EOV ever coming to the west? At this point I just want to use cfw to bypass region-lock and import it

>>375766461
It's not impossible to beat the game without a fortress

>>375760630
It's easy, so you don't really need any.

>>375766732
Not because of that but he hada fortress in the back row for the entire first half of the game.

>>375766887
To be fair, having your Fortress taunt from the backline works pretty good early on.

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>>375766461
My party didn't have problems with damage mitigation and that became apparent as I played the game, in fact using the partywide defense buff just took away a precious buff slot while the backline Fort was left twiddling her thumbs for most other turns; my two frontliner Landys and Dancer were busy Swordbreaking and Mist Dancing through most of the things thrown their way. A Medic ended up being a much better fit for the party, healing away the damage that did get through and assisting in other ways on off turns with an Arcanist subclass.

>>375766619
Localization probably just got delayed because of Persona 5. I'd wait until after E3 before getting too worried.

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>>375760630
Save your skill points for when you need them or until you've learned enough to plan out a teams skill coordination. Enjoy, this is my favorite rpg.

>>375764540

Shit. Been years since I touched EOIV. I meant Imperial. Shogun is from EOIII.

>>375767220
Fan Dancing*, shit. Mist Dance was the stun passive, though that was useful for avoiding damage as well.

The reason why I put a fort on the backline against the game's recommendation in the first place was wanting to experiment with my party setup, but obviously she was not cut out for synergizing with the rest of my party for multiple reasons.

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>>375760630
3 is the better game

untold 2 is a better starting point

stun/petrify is so op in 4 its sad. super boss is weak to petrify, everything else is rekt by stun

>neVer eVer

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EMD was a mediocre game, but had a great fucking soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCv3iRC4U5w

>>375767952
I only remember hearing FOE music forever.

>>375760630

Have a nightseeker, front row, subclass it to bushi (samurai) when you can do that, will start off kinda weak but auto poison and status + attack power towards the end of the game are fucking godlike.

Landsknetch is cool but only if he uses the power of friendship, since they follow up any other attacks with an elemental attack, and since Nightseekers and Archers have multi-hit moves, this shit can do insane damage as well.

THE BEST TIP, ditch (retire and replace ) your healer when you can have Arcanists in your party and THEN subclass the Arcanist as a healer...or you can keep the healer and reclass it as arcanist, whatever works for you.

>>375768556
Arcanist with Medic subclass for revive/status/bind heals is all you'll ever need, plus can actually be useful in combat besides just healing.

>>375768703
wait that's literally what you said
please disregard that i suck cocks

>>375768703

Can also deal status and damage while it heals, I think this is probably the best healing "class" in any JRPG I've ever seen, does decent damage, AOE status effect circles that last three turns that also heal your party, very versatile.

Get a bow dude with the skill that does a million hits + a land shark with the skill that does a follow up attack whenever your allies hit an enemy

You just beat the game

EOV WHEN

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>375768912
Plus the attack/defense debuffs for the downtime turns in between circles. I've never done a run of EO4 without an Arcanist, they're just too useful.

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*blocks your path*

>>375762572
wrong

Been playing this for a while now too. Currently in 4th Stratum, everyone is ~level 50. So far the only thing I havn't really figured out is a useful subclass for my Runemaster. She pretty much just casts AOE or high damage single attack spells every turn, so I'm not sure what else would be useful for her.

>>375770552
Bushi for more power or Imperial for sustainability.

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>>375767730
That goes both ways, though.

>>375770829
What aspects of the subclass does the character get?

>>375766887
I got to the 4th area like this because my front line was full and because back line takes less damage. I didn't actually know it was considered dumb.

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>>375771012

>>375766619
If we don't hear about it during E3 or some random Direct within the next couple of months then it'd be safe to give up hope.

>>375770552
Maybe something with rp or tp recovery i forget the name, I think arcanist gets that on circle release maybe? I don't remember though

>>375771095
Pretty much whatever skills from subclass you give them

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>>375771095
>Bushi
Not much since almost all of the skills are physical, except for Blood Surge which is about a 40% flat damage increase, including magic, that one passive skill that lets you survive once with 1HP and that skill that takes you out of Blood Surge and recovers a lot of HP/MP.

>Imperial
Gets various passives to increase elemental damage, recover MP when hitting weaknesses, decrease the enemies' elemental resist and can also turn single target skills to AoE ones at a chance.

>>375764948
Dancer is great. Build her with stunlocking in mind and have her do dances where she follows others when they attack and she'll get like 6 attacks per turn which is 6 chances to proc stun, in addition to having minor healing and defensive abilities.

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>>375771649
They are making a 10th anniversary stream on the 20, they'll announce it there.

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>>375772329
>10th anniversary
jesus these games really have been coming in for a decade haven't they

>>375772329
>announce western localization of a game during a Japanese anniversary stream

I don't think so.

>>375760630
Fucking binds never land even at max out.

>>375772506
>binds never land
I think you need to put some skill points in your bind abilities anon

>>375772660
i did, but they never land on bosses.

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Ricky!

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>>375772456
Well maybe not IN the stream but hopefully during that day.

>>375772707
Strange. I was able to hit bosses with binds. Saved my ass quite a bit. You know that binds are less likely to hit if they've hit once before? Enemies get more resistant to it, unless you use the skill that removes that resistance.

>>375771471
>I have no moving vocal folds and I must scream

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>>375772845

Ricky was a mistake.

>>375760630
dont forget to bring a towel!

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>>375773196
*is a miracle of the universe

>>375773246
You're a towel.

>>375773196
"Arianna was a mistake."
Duke of Caledonia

>>375772943
Yea I know they are less likely once you got it to land before but they never fucking land, i spend all my mana points just trying to land one, by that point it seemed kinda worthless considering I could had used other actions.

>>375773719
Did you use an arcanist circle or were you trying to just use sniper binds or something? If sniper did you subclass her as nightseeker for dual wielded bows for double chance at least?

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>>375773685

>>375773719
Binds are incredibly string and necessary to prevent some skills/stop those pieces of shit in the second stratum from dodging

Why the fuck does eou give you an entire fucking party without customization for story mode? It sucks I hate that team they're a bunch of fuckers I want to use good classes not some little bitches

>>375774154
Then... play Classic mode?

>>375774154

reclass nigga

>>375774212
But aren't there two classes locked behind story mode? I want those two classes man

>>375774289
Oh shit I'm a dumbass I can do that? Fug

>>375774154
>hating Ricky
>>>/out/

>>375774462
I don't hate Ricky more like I hate fucking Simon. I just want customization over their classes a bit. Ricky is easily the best of the bunch honestly.

>>375771216
never played the game, don't listen to me.
I thought they could do nothing from the back row

>>375774425
Yes
In fact reclassing is an ok idea for some story characters in both Untolds. I had to temporarily reclass Flavio and Chloe into Dark Hunters and Arianna into a Troubadour to chees- I mean defeat the Ur-Devil.

>>375774289
EO's reclassing is complete garbage though.

>>375774597
I see. Well they do fuck all damage from the back so that's a disadvantage, but fortress damage seemed to suck anyways.

I'm wanting to play one of these games. I'm looking up prices and for digital/amazon, untold 2 is $50, but gamestop has it for $20. Am I missing something?

>>375777151
Nope. I just picked up untold 2 for $20 at gamestop

>>375777151
Perhaps the GS one is used.

>>375777478
It's going for new, only a few bucks cheaper than that for used. Curious why it would be such a big difference for sellers, but I won't complain about saving some money.

>>375777729
Oh, I think the online one might have been the special version that comes with an artbook and OST.

>>375777151
Untold 1 and IV have gone on sale on the eshop for $10-15 before. Maybe wait for Atlus to make a sale out of them.

>>375777907
I'd be surprised if there were still 1st print copies sitting in an Amazon warehouse, but I guess it's not impossible

>>375774154
>want to use good classes
Highlander and Gunner are two of the best classes in the game.

Also, you can reclass, but there's not much point to it. The team they give for story is as balanced and cookiecutter as it gets

>>375769107
it's there already

>>375769368
posting best EO?

>>375769107
It will come. They've said they haven't released an announcement 'yet'.

Of course, 'yet' could mean 2030, but it will come.

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Thoughts?
I enjoyed the first EOMD for a good bit.

>>375780351
I enjoyed the first one too but wasn't motivated enough to finished it. I am excited for this one.

>>375780351
If it's not as much of a mess then I'll buy it.
And I didn't pirate the first one, I borrowed it from the library.

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>>375780351
Cautious. Love the boxart. Much better than 1's.

>>375780351
They used the wrong monk.

>>375781164
My nigga.

>>375780351
The first one was fun for a while but it needed a lot of work, specially so in the playtesting department.

What is known about it anyway? How many classes will there be?

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>>375781164

The had to use the inferior Monk to balance out the great decision of using the bandana Landsknecht over the mascot one.

>>375762010
>Not having a full fortress team

>>375781645
The AI was just... So bad.

Pick wufan

>>375781860
You know the game is broken when you have more success traveling alone rather than having a full party. This is probably why it didn't work out quite well, because mystery dungeon games are best played with one or two party members, the complete opposite of EO.

>>375780351
I HATED EOMD1, so I dont have much hope for this one

>>375781742
>bandana Landsknecht over the mascot one.

She's not the mascot, Fortress and Land are both the mascot, cant have one without the other and they had already included Fortress. Plus it wasn't Himukai that did the art for 1 anyway.

>>375760630
party composition>level
poison is now an actual threat
enjoy your first partywipe by something that looks weak

>>375780351
I can't wait for the OST, at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDTxtyUDfY

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>>375782501
Seriously, did anyone want this sequel? The one time my favorite series from the last couple of gens gets a spinoff, it happens to be a crossover with pretty much my least favorite type of game. AND it got a sequel

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>>375783546
>mystery dungeon 2 gets localized
>EOV doesn't

>>375783802
>No EOV classes in MD2 so it's fine

Atlus USA has all the bullshit reasoning they need.

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>SMT HD teaser opens with an abandoned building covered in vegetation.
>"AW SHIT EO SWITCH"
>SMT Anniversary logo appears.

>EMD2 trailer opens with water
>"AW SHIT EO3U"
>Spike Chunsoft logo appears.

why do i do this to myself

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>>375785990
>>SMT HD teaser opens with an abandoned building covered in vegetation.
>>"AW SHIT EO SWITCH"
I thought the same. It looked like EO1 for a moment.

>>375785990
To be fair the spike chunsoft logo showed before any EO material.

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>>375786132
>Showcasing EO at a large console reveal event

Naw man.

>>375786462
>Can't show qt explorer grils.
>But can show a giant green demon dick.

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If warped savior was ""easy"", then what absolute bullshit is in the postgame of the other EOs?

>>375787076
Primevil at night in the first game is pretty much at the top.

>>375787647
>at night
What's the difference?

>>375787975
Oh sorry, meant Ur-Child. Knew it was one of those. Anyways, it just ignores it's attack pattern completely at night and does whatever the fuck it wants. Can just one shot you on the first turn if it feels like it.

5/3/4>>>>>>>>>>U2>U1>1>2
Can we all agree?

>>375760630

Why is this like a quarter the price of the remakes? Did the remakes totally overhaul everything about the first two games?

>>375762180
I gave up on 1 when I started finding several enemies that infinitely spawn other enemies that can one hit kill all of your party members one by one and the one spawning them was a HP tank and there were several of them.

Wizardy fucking died for a reason.

>>375789095
>4 above anything

Lolno

>>375789349
1 is actually the easiest to cheese if you know what you're doing

>>375789349
1 is literally the easiest in the franchise. Nothing in the main game is legitimately difficult except maybe some of the unlucky random events in early stratum.

every single bit of post-game in every single EO game is fucking bullshit though

I started 3, got to Volt Catfish, then did a bit of reading and found out my skills were doing jack shit. I could have been raising farmers all this time and been able to afford armor. Why don't they just explain this in the game? Since I'm used to the game now, I'm also in the habit of killing FOEs on new floors. Now I know what to do before the next game.

>>375790442
>Why don't they just explain this in the game
>FARMER
>a quick look at their skills reveals they can harvest everything with a single skill, increase chance of rare items, completely negate random encounters, and even have a fucking skill called TO MARKET

You might just be slightly retarded is all

>>375790847
>combat study works on as many characters as you want as long as they are not participating in battle
Actually bullshit. Not to mention the value of some skills which might as well be nothing.

>>375789095
EOU2>3>5>EOU>2>1>4>>>>>>>SHIT>>>>EMD

>>375792232
Very strange and retarded taste
(you)

>>375792232
EO5 = EO2U > EO2 = EO4 > EO3 > EOU > EO1

>>375789095
For me personally, it's
U2>3>4>U1>1>2
Haven't played 5.

>>375766887
It's actually possible, a high-level taunt can draw aggro and it allows you to have 3 frontline damage dealers the Fortress can provide protection for from the back.

>>375780351
>Tfw never finished EOMD

What is a good party to cheese it with? I want to finish it at least, I paid fucking full price for it.

>>375792727
get a gunner, have a princess cast one of the elemental arm skills on the gunner, it increases the targets strength by 3 for the duration, however it you keep casting it, the strength will keep increases and when the buff finally does wear off, you only end up losing 3 strength, keeping whatever retarded amount of strength you decided to go up to. Proceed to oneshot nearly everything with 999 str

>>375780351
>>375780572
>>375780578
>>375780721
>>375781164
>>375781645
>>375782501
Why is the game considered mediocre?
I found it quite good. It has a nice OST too

>>375793195
Shitty party AI, bugs with Princess skills, and some awful drop chances on certain items.

I liked it, but it certainly had problems.

Just started playing IV today. I kinda miss the static sprites of III, they had their own charm to it and was sorta hoping for higher resolution and more colorful static sprites instead of 3d models. The FOEs not being big orange blurry balls is a huge plus though and the environment looks absolutely gorgeous compared to the low res pixels of the DS games.

Man, I really fucked up not updating my 3DS emunand in years, not I can't touch Untold II until Gateway figures the 11.4 firmware out. I might have to bite the bullet and use CFW.

>>375792505
I can agree with this.

>>375794157
The sprites are way better cause theyre just digitized versions of drawings made by the incredibly talented monster designer. There's no possible way those low-poly shit 3d models could live up to them

I really need to get around to beating the true ending for EOIII. Will a Warrior's Might party be ok for the final stratum or is this like EOI where the super boss requires a specific setup?

>>375794745
Warrior might will absolutely destroy the post game

>>375793195
It was unpolished. The game loses all pretenses of difficulty after you finish the first dungeon, and is presumably balanced around the fact that you're too busy dealing with your retarded party members instead. And even that's a nonissue because you can just turn off their item spam and swap leaders whenever someone's acting up.
There's a severe drought of good dungeon themes for the entire later half of the game, up until the final dungeon and postgame. Which are both fantastic, mind you, but it was just unpleasant up until then.
Story was shallow and dumb, but that's an EO staple. Bar conversations were poorly implemented.
I spent three hours farming materials on the MMORPG-tier rates for a Yggdrasil Rapier before the game decided to crash on me in the middle of a dungeon. I wasn't allowed to keep it.
On that note, there's no Formaldehyde.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun, but it goes out of its way to prevent you from enjoying it at times. Hope the sequel can rectify some of the issues.

>>375793153
>>375794882
>>375793195
I didn't hate it but it just felt clunky and the party AI was infuriating at times.

The music was sick though. Hoist The Sword With Pride In Your Heart, fuck yes.

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>>375780351
The first one kinda sucked, I'm hoping they make this one both functional and fun
The soundtrack will rock regardless.

>>375794157
I can play U2 just fine on Gateway.

>>375762259
Leveling up skills often gives diminishing returns after a while (especially passives). A good bet is to level up a skill that you want to half of its max, and then later in the game max it out.

>using battle themes as dungeon music

That was the real crime in EMD. Nothing like hearing the EO1 FOE theme for hours on end while I try not to smash my 3DS in half because the item I need wont drop

>>375771095
Subclassing allows for a character to learn most of the skills from that class (but will only be able to level them to half of what a full class can) and allows them to equip that class's weapons.

Bushi is a great subclass on a lot of things because of Blood Surge, Endure and Deep Breath which gives you some MP recovery. It's surprisingly great for Runemasters.

>>375795143
My emunand is still on 9.0. I literally didn't update it in years and now I can't.

>>375795428
Yeah, EO4 works with the diminishing returns mindset for a lot of skills, while other EO games just have lv1 to learn skill -> big power boost at lv5 -> another big boost at lv10, with only minimal improvement for the inbetween levels.

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>>375795740

I think the EO1 FOE theme playing for a dungeon worked because that's where they finally introduced DOEs.

The EO2 version playing a couple dungeons later was completely unnecessary though.

How it's even possible for some people to unironically love U2? It didn't fixed any shit of original 2(worst game in the series) like shit ost, shit story, shit tier skill trees and terrible maps
Just finished first stratum in 5, and holy shit it's just like return of glorious days of 3 and 4
If I wanted decent classic look like drpg I would play DT2 again, but not any of untolds

>>375762572
>tfw ran two landsknechts
Felt good.

>>375796242
>shit this, shit that

You're not really saying anything. At least explain why it's shit.

>>375796242
U2 is liked because it fixes the problems of U1, not 2's problems.

The "story mode" isn't garbage and the cast isn't garbage. Of course, they spent so much time fixing the shit U1 introduced they forgot to fix 2' s problems.

>>375796714
Well, Ronin being overpowered sure was "fixed" in 2U.

>>375796242
Because it has great "QoL features". dynamic map icons. holy fucking shit. Floor jump is on the bottom instead of top screen! You can see ailment immunities! Four times as many cancerous grimoires! DLC Classes, Floors, and Bosses! People may shit on the class balance in other games but at least there was an attempt at interesting dungeons, instead of recoloring a fucking forest five times.

>>375796714
>cast isn't garbage
Well, they added forced romance and mc with super special powers is shit I hate the most in the games of this genre

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>>375796242
>original 2(worst game in the series)
consider me fucking triggered, EO2 is better than EO3 even if the /v/ hivemind doesn't agree with that
>shit ost
what?
>shit story
it's the worst of the three I guess, but that's not saying much
>shit tier skill trees
elaborate, I could just as well say EO3's were shittier
>terrible maps
in what way

>>375798025
>consider me fucking triggered, EO2 is better than EO3 even if the /v/ hivemind doesn't agree with that
lol

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>>375798025
>EO2 is better than EO3 even if the /v/ hivemind doesn't agree with that

i like 2 anon, but that game is literally broken.

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>>375798321
And EO3 isn't?

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>>375798398
it's less broken than 2

>>375798398
More like what game isn't?

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>>375798025

>>375765359
It's like you're the type of person who doesn't make their party nothing but lolis.

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>>375800295
>falling for the loli meme
If EOV comes westward you bet your fucking ass the first members of my party are gonna be the old man tank and the RIP AND TEAR Caestus.
Will probably have a potato in the back row though.

>>375800295
It's really hard not to with this game. Still, I resist the urge and make a squad of 2 males at least, sometimes even 3..

>>375800295
I'm not a pedo though.

I just look up the skill online and make a party of what I think will be cool

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>>375800295
>finally get out of the loli meme phase
>EOV comes out
>titty monsters everywhere

thanks atlus

>>375785990
God why would you want ti on the switch. It would kill the sole reason why EO was even made with its gimmick surrounding it.

>>375801218
There's like 2 or 3 at best. Just because most of them aren't flat doesn't automatically make them titty monsters. Hell the one with the largest rack is an NPC

>he uses girls in his party

What are you, gay?