Best. Gen. Ever

not sure wtf the image is supposed to represent

>Saturn

Kek

>>375630562
Look closely at the textures on each of the triforces.

Now if only Saturn wasn't a piece of shit with no games.

>>375630481

God I hate how the N64 did textures, it made everything look like fucking shit.


PS1's method was way better, never had a Saturn but that looks good too. N64 is just blurry trash though why even bother having textures at that point, just use PS paint to make them or color the fucking polygons it would probably look better than the blurry mess than is N64 textures.

God I hate how the PS1 did textures, it made everything look like fucking shit.


N64's method was way better, never had a Saturn but that looks good too. PS1 is just blurry trash though why even bother having textures at that point, just use NS paint to make them or color the fucking polygons it would probably look better than the blurry mess than is PS1 textures.

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>>375630660
Also the PS1 texture is flickering

>>375631051

Imagine being this fucking butthurt that you defend N64's texture filtering methods.

>>375630821

Imagine being this fucking butthurt that you defend PS1's texture filtering methods.

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>>375630821
>>375631051
>>375631213
>>375631294

>>375631294

Imagine being so asshurt that you can't even think straight and the only way you can even psychically get your reply out is to just copy and paste the other persons post.

>>375631213

Imagine being so asshurt that you can't even think straight and the only way you can even psychically get your reply out is to just copy and paste the other persons post.

>>375631585
Man you ARE burthurt.

>>375631213
n64 can sorta be defended at the time but it's unacceptable now.

when you only had composite anyway the filtering made 3d actually look passable while early 3d was downright fucking ugly back then.

saturn and ps1 2d however is fucking fantastic they should of kept to 2d games during that gen.

fast forward to now with rgb and emulation being a thing and the texture filtering and hardware anti-alising makes the n64 impossible to improve the image past maybe what s-video provides over composite (removes rainbow banding but thats about all you can do to improve)

>no one commented on the fact that the saturn triforce is 60 fps while the others aren't

> filtering mid-90's textures

Just don't. They're so low res that filtering them just looks like baby shit smeared across every surface. PS1 games in general, have more varied and higher res textures, and it more than makes up for the lack of perspective correction. Sure it would be much better if it had that, but the PS1 had the best idea of how to handle early 3D graphics.

>>375631947
pretty sure only the n64 one has the reduced framerate

>>375631947
I think the PS1 clip is too but it keeps jumping.

>>375631947
>>375632249
>>375632251
Also the Saturn's texture is stretched down.

>>375630821
It's funny because if a modern game didnt have AA people would shit on it.

But when nintendo had AA before anyone else it's shitposting about.

>>375632407

That's not anti aliasing you fucking retard. That is shitty texture filtering. N64 actually had a fucking filter applied over every texture.

/v/ fucking hates unnecessary filtering, it's up there with fucking DoF, Motion Blur and Chromatic Abberation.

>>375630481
>>375630562
>>375630660
>>375631150
If you look closely the PSX triangles, the vertices are flickering and animated at 60FPS.

If you look closely at the N64 triangles, they are animated at 20FPS (LUL).

If you look closely at the Saturn triangles, they are animated at 60FPS with no problems.

Something you fucks need to understand is that back then they used CRT TVs and many of the details were blurred out by that.

Overall they lookee very samey.

>>375632618
I don't know where the meme that the PSX or Saturn (jesus fucking christ) had better framerates for 3D games than the N64.

>>375630481
Saturn looks the best but was the hardest to program for.
PS1 looks worse but was easier to program for.
N64 is the middle ground but it was more expensive thanks to cartridges and Nintendos licensing bullshit.

PS2, Dreamcast, Gamecube, and Xbox is the greatest generation. It has a huge collection of good games across diverse genres.
We'll never see a gen like that again.

>>375632615
n64 actually had both, texture filtering AND a hardware level anti-alising that was like smearing vasaline over the entire image.

>>375632357
>>375632618
saturn's "triangles" are quads, take a closer look

>>375633337
Ahh

I'm glad I got into gaming after actual graphics were invented, PS2 was my first console and even that looks real bad today. Can't fathom how people played PS1 and N64 without suffering permanent eye damage, I know even the instruction manuals told you not to play longer than 10 minutes without breaks or something.

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>>375633337
oh shit

>>375632940
this gen was a bit of a mess all around, but we got some grade A stuff out of it

>>375633637
What a filthy casualfag.

>>375632618
Which one had actually good games though?

Protip: It isn't Saturn's meme library

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>>375633890
>taking pride in beta testing early clumsy prototypes
Thanks for taking the bullet.

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>>375630594
>>375630671
>>375634014
how come /v/ hates the saturn but /vr/ loves it?

>>375634014
if anything has a meme library it's the N64

>>375634232

This. Fucking this is true.

>>375634232
Name 10 classic Saturn games.

Preferably ones more than 8 people have ever heard of.

>>375634169
/vr/ actually plays games

>>375634291

Holy shit the N64 has such bad texture quality when put directly beside the PS1. How did Nintendo ever get away with this shit?

>>375634169
/vr/ is full of hipster redditfags.

>>375634147
>taking pride in playing dumbed down shit because muh graphics

>>375634169
/v/ is too underaged for Saturn. The average /v/ poster here is a high school to college student. Many people here first real console experience was PS2 or Gamecube.

/vr/ is older so they can appreciate older things.

>>375634494
>People actually think like this

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>>375634494
Nintendo was a firm believer of polygons in the era and spent a lot of time marketing against the PS1 not being able to render textures properly.

>>375634291
I would sooner take a pixelated mess than a vaseline-smeared screen.

>>375634420
Panzer Dragoon, Zwei and Saga
Burning Rangers
Radiant Silvergun
Guardian Heroes
Sonic R

Also it was THE home console to play arcade perfect ports of Capcom CPS2 games.

The N64 was a shit console. Why anyone liked it is beyond me.

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>>375634510
>if it has fluent controls and proper camera it's dumbed down
We are all impressed by your hot gaming skills.

>>375634494
it was the 90s and the infancy of 3d. Everyone was experimenting on how to get shit to look right.

>>375634232
I remember a lot of N64 ports being butchered to hell. Bugs life comes to mind. The PS1 version had voice acting, cutscenes, and a more flashy interface. N64 lacked all that.

The only decent N64 games were made by Nintendo and Rare. Everything else was poorly made so it can fit on a 32MB cartridge.

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>>375634169
/v/'s under the assumption it has no games when it does.

>>375634943
RE2 is a great port.

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>>375634494
Conker has better texturing than any PS1 game

>>375634843
Those buzzwords still describe something that has been dumbed down.

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>>375634169
/v/ hates everything.

>>375630481
I grew up as a N64 kid, but I honestly prefer PS1's visuals and its lack of a z-buffer.
Playing FF9 for the first time now and it shits on everything the N64 ever put out. It is such a gorgeous looking game that I'm honestly surprised a 20 year old console was able to render all those particles and geometry duing summoning.

I had both a PS1 and a N64 as a kid and I always preferred the look of PS1 games. It wasn't until years later that I found out faggots argue over this shit.

>>375630671
This is not a Switch thread for a change.

>>375634843
>fluent controls

Last time I heard controls don't need to be fluent in english dumbass.

>>375630481
>saturn
Saturn was shit at everything except 2D. Somehow SOTN on the saturn was garbage though.

>>375634531
>/vr/ are older so they know what's good!
the Saturn was dogshit and you don't have to be "old" to know that.

>>375634291
Right has more detail, left would just look like blurred gray from far away.

>>375634740
>Those games

Literally who? Lol

Like I said. Meme library.

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>>375634943
>I remember a lot of N64 ports being butchered to hell. Bugs life comes to mind
Bug's Life is a particularly bad N64 port though. I can't even think of a worse one.

Plenty of N64 -> PS1 ports were butchered though. Shadowman springs to mind. There was even a butchered port of Space Station Silicon Valley on Playstation. And of course, Rayman 2 was cut down on PS1.

>>375635308
>fluent
>[floo-uh nt]
>adjective
>3. easy; graceful:
>fluent motion; fluent curves.
That's a free one, spic pajeet.

>>375635023
The N64 version was compressed to hell so audio sounded worse and FMVs looked like utter crap. Still an amazing feat though considering the limitations.

But at the end of the day PS1 RE2 > N64 RE2

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>>375635031
Yeah nah.

>>375630481

This isn't an accurate graphics comparison because the N64 had significantly better models and polygons, but this image doesn't show that.

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>>375634169
Nobody owned one because nogaems. Sega of America fucked up bigtime with the Saturn. In reality it has a fantastic library, but barely any releases saw their way over to the west.

/vr/ loves it because they give enough of a shit to actually play old consoles. Everyone else has moved on and thinks of the Saturn as a Wii U tier mistake.

>playing any console made before 6th gen

you arent cool. nobody thinks you have ""epic taste"" youre just an old faggot that cant grow up. kill yourselves losers

>>375630481
And yet the emblem used for the comparisons is a Nintendo symbol. Looks like actual good games are what matter at the end of the day.

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>>375634232
Explain me what a meme library is.

>>375635760
Go cry somewhere else, you casual baby.

>>375635586
Top kek, is that the best you've got? That castle already looks pixelated (with repetitive textures) and the camera is far away from it.

>>375635731
I haven't experienced Saturn because emulation is cryptic as fuck and a pain the in ass to get running.

I'm sure thats the same reason many others haven't played much of it too.

>>375635731
>sega of america
incorrecto. SoJ fucked it all up

>>375635860
A library I hate

>>375635941
And the foyer in the Conker webm is blurred to hell and is spinning the camera around so you don't see the smears. The fuck is your point?

N64 had the better tech and first party games but Sony absolutely destroyed Nintendo when it came to third party games on PS1.

>>375636285
Ps1 had more good games.

N64 had more great games.

>Saturn
That was in the N64 gen?

I agree, though, the 3D graphics were just right to not overshadow the gameplay and to not be disgusting.

>>375636157
Because it actually gives you the freedom to move the camera close to things, unlike Vagrant Story which keeps the camera far away from anything (and a first person mode that is there but nobody uses).

There are more unique textures visible in that foyer in Conker then any PS1 game I've ever seen (the game uses multi-texturing). Most PS1 games with "high-res" textures, just tile the same couple of single-layer textures over and over.

>>375636353
Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 can only do so much against FF7, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Bloody Roar 2, Tales of Eternia, Legend of Dragoon, Metal Gear Solid, Castlevania, FF tactics, Oddworld, etc.

>>375636707
>If I name only 2 N64 titles and 8 PS1 titles it will make it look like ps1 is better

Sad. My point still stands.

>>375636353
N64 has 388 games

PSX has ~2400 games

N64 lacks variety and many genres are completly absent.

inb4 psx has only shovelware

>>375636707
>FF7
>Bloody Roar 2
>Castlevania
>Metal Gear Solid
>Oddworld
none of these were PS1 exclusives even in that generation though

>>375636802
>Brag about shovelware
>"Inb4 shovelware"

Kek

Literally the definition of quality over quantity. Anyone would struggle to name 150 even mediocre ps1 games dude.

>>375636353
not true in the slightest. there is like 15 worthwhile games on n64 and easily over 100 on ps1

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>>375636041
That explains everything, thanks.

>>375636801
>Trump is a Nintenbro

I'm surprised, Mr. President.
When will you finally close down MS?

>>375636935
Proving my point. Those N64 games are much better than the 100 ps1 games. While the ps1 games range from all time classics to okay.

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hmm...it really makes you think

>>375636929
name 10 good n64 games.

>>375636801
You have no point. N64 pales in comparison to PS1 in terms of games. N64 got some really good first party but their third party was absolutely dreadful and lacking. The trend still carries on today too. All the third party devs are siding with Sony while Nintendo has to buy exclusives like Bayonetta and MH.

>>375636929
Go on and name the 20 same games you n64 faggots name all the time. Those 20 games every fucking cocksucker had back in the day. Because thats all there is to the n64.

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>PSX and Saturnfags seriously think they can compete with this

>>375637069
It's the exact same mesh, the N64 just split each quad. There's no difference in the topology at all.

>younger me realizes he can finally emulate the n64 all his friends had that he was always jealous of growing up
>beat the two zeldas and realize there are no other good n64 games

>>375636519
>That was in the N64 gen?

really nigga? im actually surprised on how clueless /v/ is when it comes to the saturn. i get it, it isnt exactly the most known console but this is a video games board!

>>375637287
>racing game
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

>>375637325
>It's the exact same mesh, the N64 just split each quad
Yeah, but they added the extra polygons so the main characters would have better animation in the N64 version. It's particularly visible on Claire, who nicely sways her hips and boobs on N64.

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>>375637509
:)

>>375630481
fyi, the ps1 wasn't actually really capable of what's in that webm sadly. The ps1 lacked basic features for anything 3d which is why it looks all distorted. It didn't have a z buffer, lacked subpixel rasterization AND, perspective correction.

This is why the ps1 couldn't even have a straight fucking line on screen in a 3d environment.

>http://www.dorkly.com/post/28002/the-top-25-n64-games-of-all-time
>they aren't even all exclusive
>a bunch of multiplayer shit that you will never play
>BUT THE N64 HAD HIGHER HIGHS D00D

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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How can PS1 even compete? Double the polygon count of Ridge Racer R4 and Gran Turismo, but yet retains 30 FPS and more stable, smoother graphics.

>>375637679
>dorkly
The desperation of PSXfags.

>>375635731
Fucking love the saturn over dreamcast

>>375637584
>fps game on a console
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

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which one of you bros wanna play saturn bomberman via SEGA Net?

>>375631051
I honestly can't tell if troll. Ps1 textures compared to ANYTHING is fucking garbage. No, the N64 wasn't some kind of super clear complicated system but holy shit man, have you played a PS1 game?

>>375637791
DUDE THE N64 HAD LOADS OF GOOD GAMES
>can't name a single one

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>>375637812
You're gay. Just because the PSX can't handle FPS games doesn't mean the N64 can't.

>>375637772
>>375637509

>>375636325
>Steam controller a motrocycle
It's more like a unicycle. Awkward to use, but gets the job done in the right hands.

>>375634291
Super accurate

>>375637562
An additional vertex doesn't alter animations at all. They both have the exact same animation data. You only notice it more because the N64 doesn't have any vertex jiggling that the PS1 has, and it's also slightly higher resolution. They didn't "add" the extra polygons so much as the N64 preferred to render triangles so the quads were procedurally subdivided.

>>375637287
Anyone remember Sled Storm?

Why arent there more games like these today?

>>375637943
Do you have any DK64 webms? I loved the lighting in that game. Specially on Chunky's Banana in Jungle Japes

>>375637287
>Welcome to Dolphin Park!

CRTs back in the day used to hide the artifacts and jaggies with scanlines. Some games on PS1 were developed to exclusively take advantage of this feature. Bloody Roar 2 and Vagrant Story comes to mind.

Of course if you try to play PS1 games today on modern LCDs, the games look worse than you remember.

>>375637943
the psx could have the best fps of all time and I would never play it because I'm not absolutely desperate for games like the average nintendofag

>>375638068
>additional vertex
hurr
additional edge, my bad.

>>375634169
/vr/ plays games

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How many frames per second would this run on PS1? 2 or 3?

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>>375638078
No but I can record some later, that game is perfect to show off the hardware.

>>375638108

Medal of Honor 1 and Underground were god tier FPS games and where PS1 exclusives stupidly, fuck I wish they got PC ports.

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>racing games
>console fps
>multiplayer garbage
anything more pathetic than a nintendo fag. You remind me of that one comic where the guy desperately tries to prove the wii isn't a completely shit console

>>375635469
>loved rayman 2 on n64
>download it on ps3 a while back for some nostalgia
>absolutely repulsive visuals
What the fuck, man?

>>375635586
Aesthetically this looks great at a glance, but graphically it looks like shit.

>>375638272
As apposed to the PSX's best and brightest, JRPGs with pre rendered assets.

>>375638202
>this is the pinnacle of n64 gaming

>>375638068
>An additional vertex doesn't alter animations at all
Yes it does. More polys = more things that can independently move for animations.

>They both have the exact same animation data. You only notice it more because the N64 doesn't have any vertex jiggling that the PS1 has, and it's also slightly higher resolution
Angel Studios explicitly said that they re-did the animations. Plus it's really obvious.

>as the N64 preferred to render triangles so the quads were procedurally subdivided.
PS1 has no more love for quads than the N64 does. They are both fully triangle-based renderers.

Also it wasn't procedural subdivision. They explicitly edited the original models to add the new animations.

>>375638332
>t-t-the graphics!
hahahahahahaha

>>375638332
>JRPGs with pre rendered assets.
You cant even comprehend how big those games were back in the day.

It wasnt some niche weaboo genre like today.

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>>375638078
>>375638202
If you're gonna show off OoT's lighting you can't do better than Ganondorf

>console wars 30 years past their release date

>>375638397
>not realising something is off with adult Link having three hearts

>>375638510
You're assuming I'm only talking about graphics, those JRPGs had the same gameplay from last gen but now with FMVs. They didn't even take advantage of the fact they were 3D.

>>375634672

lol it's funny because everything is jiggling like it does in a PS1 game.

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>>375638685
Ganon's model is pretty impressive.

>>375638737
you actually pick up the heart containers you blithering retard? They exist so children can beat the game as well you fucking casual pos

>>375636325
I know it's bait but it's weirdly opposite. Multiplats are designed for consoles so aiming with a mouse is the actual crutch.

>>375638763
games with pre rendered background werent 3d

any goodsaturn emulator or is its scene still shit?
A firend of mine send a some of saturn games from japan that will arrive this week. but I don't a saturn.
"then way you got the game you fuck?"
I really wanted to have physical copies of the gundam side stories games, original sakura taisen, gihren no yabou, and oher JP only games.

>>375639032
>a-auto aim i-isn't a c-crutch!

>>375637943
>monster leaps at you
>impale it in midair with arrow
>monster collapses mid air and rolls around the ground

Fucking based physics or animation or whatever they did to achieve this. Still impressive to this day.

>>375639260
Stick + aim assist is still more difficult than aiming with a mouse.
Unless you're talking about that mode literally (literally) for disabled people in Uncharted 4.

>>375639148

how do into saturn

>>375639032
If multiplats were truly designed for aiming with sticks, cover shooters and aim assist wouldn't be a thing.

the n64 and saturn only had a handful of good games

the true greatest generation is Ps2 + GC + Xbox +DC

>>375637772
Doesn't that game disable the z-buffer to instead use it's a PSX style per-face Z-sorting? I bet Nintendo gave the devs plenty of trouble for that.

>>375638162
About the same framerate, possible a few frames lower if you get rid of the buffered shadows and tone down the particles. But what about on PC? Consider that It took Pkeks until something like late 2000 to get a video card with hardware T&L.

>>375639387
console fps games have auto aim. also no self respecting pc gamer would ever EVER play a console fps multiplat

that picture also isn't bait you console virgin. its entirely accurate.

>>375635731
>Clockwork Knight
I fucking love this game. I had fond memories as a kid playing it, and I took up emulation a while ago just to play it again. It's like the Toy Story games, but more fun.
>Keio Flying Squadron 2
This game is fucking hard as hell. I picked it up for the bunnygirl, stayed for the challenge.

>>375639612
>also no self respecting pc gamer would ever EVER play a console fps multiplat
Name three FPS games that aren't on consoles. Preferably recent, but I guess the only good shooters came out in the 90s.

>>375639484
>auto aim
That's because it's hard to aim with sticks. You don't need that when playing with a mouse.
DOOM 2016's difficulties are designed to be beaten with a controller. Mouse is essentially crutch more.

>>375637772
Is this considered low poly? Man, I love how things looked back in the day.

>>375639576
>Doesn't that game disable the z-buffer to instead use it's a PSX style per-face Z-sorting
It does per-polygon sorting, yes. Most PSX games do per-mesh sorting, which is less accurate.

>About the same framerate, possible a few frames lower if you get rid of the buffered shadows and tone down the particles
The dynamic lighting would also be a big issue for PS1. It can do some dynamic lighting, sure, but not nearly this well.

>But what about on PC?
N64's HW T&L has been estimated to be roughly equal to a P2 400.

>>375630481

>it's a dillusional Sony person thinking any ps1 game is in the same scale as any N64 game thread

>>375639841
enjoy your nigger of duty, niggerfield 1 and niggerwatch console nigger.

Post a selfie there is zero chance you aren't black

>>375639841
name 3 good fps games from the last 5 years

>>375640019
Of those I've only played Overwatch, and I play it on PC because it's easier.
Nice arguments though.

>>375640215
Good in what sense? The ones >>375640019 mentioned sold well so I guess they are good.

>>375640215

Borderlands 2

Plants vs zombies garden warfare 2

Splatoon

Overwatch, no matter how much you shitpost about it

Battlefield 1 if you don't give a shit about battle packs

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>>375630821
>>375631051
>>375631213
>>375631294

PS1 has like 3 good games, N64 has maybe 5 or so. Shit generation. Nobody cares about the Saturn, it's not even relevant.

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>/vr/ thread on /v/
>it's a consolewar shitpost thread because that's all /v/ knows how to do

>>375636325
DS4 > 360 > Logitech > Steam

>>375635731
So it's basically another example of cancerous American human garbage thinking what was released in their nation was all that was up on offer?
I really, really, really want that nation to be nuked from the face of the planet. Failing that, some sort of random land invasion, with people being dragged into the streets, rounded up and facing the firing squad, their buildings burned to the ground.
Clapistani are fucking scum and the main reason for the international problems around the world since the late 70s.

>>375640513
t. millennial shitter

>>375640364
Jesus.

>>375640563
wrong

This was by far my least favorite gen. Everyone trying to figure out 3d and their enthusiasm for it lead to tons of clunky ass games with unappealing graphics. What really pissed me off was that the 2d games looked fucking great. You'd go from Castlevania SoTN with its detailed animation and great art to fucking Mario 64 where everything looks flat as hell.

>>375640548
U jelly of our freedom, bro

>>375640563
>t.
When will this shit meme die?

>>375640678
It's a Finnish meme so it's never going away

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>>375640215
>give me your subjective opinion which I will refute with my subjective opinion and claim that my opinion is the superior one

>>375635760
>>playing any console made before [arbitrary cutoff point]
You could say this fallacious horseshit about anything.
>listening to music before 1952 - No wait, 1976

>>375630481
whats that one on the right?

>>375641180

saturn you literal 10 year old

>>375641245
never heard of it

>>375641245
That's a planet you doofus

If Nigga Sega Saturn so good why is the emulation bad.


I went to look for a rom and they're in mdf format what is this crap

>>375639308
if (object[arrow] touch object[monster.Chest])
do
(hit animation)
(death animation)

object stand still

yeah anon, it's really impressive they know how to code. i mean, WOW

>>375640356
>>375640364
>>375641013
kys underage niggers. Stop posting you belong on another site

>>375642529
(is-language (lisp) good?)

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>make a console vastly more powerful than the PS1
>it uses 64 megabyte cartridges because "muh piracy"
>developers like square literally can't fit their vidya onto the cart and go to sony
>alienate more third parties than pirates
>make console vastly more powerful than the PS2
>use a proprietary disc that doesn't hold nearly as much content as a regular DVD because "muh piracy"
>not a cartridge either so now "muh load times" is not an argument
>developers can't be assed to compress their games and port them onto a retard disc
why did nintendo make almost generation perfect consoles only to go full retard and gimp them with such horrendous design flaws?

Why did anyone like the N64 honestly? It had a total of 2 good games, OoT, and Mario 64. THAT'S IT

>>375642529
If its not impressive show me another game from the era that did it.

>>375643164
there's also the prequel to yooka laylee

>>375630821
>Sony does nothing wrong

>>375640546
I've never seen such good taste on /v/

>>375643164
Are you just gonna leave out Majora's Mask like that you stupid fuck? I'll fight you. I'm gonna pop in Doom 64 and blow your ass to hell.

>>375637772
i would play that today!!

>>375643548
I always hear Doom 64 was "much more than a just Doom port", can you elaborate? I'm genuinely ignorant. Is it just about graphics?

>>375642529
>Mass Effect : Andromeda quality code

>>375643450
absolutely disgusting*

>>375643781
It's because it has all new levels. The graphics are pretty much the same as the old PC release. Worth playing if you're a Doom fan, but I bet the WADs can be found online.

>>375633337
I was about to call bullshit on the OP image until you pointed that out. Subtle.

>>375636023
Pretty sure Retroarch does it easily.
Tried out Bug on it and it ran well.

>>375637287

reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC9piSxt58M

>>375644075
>The graphics are pretty much the same as the old PC release
are you kidding? they didn't reuse any pc graphics, its entirely new. new levels, new music, new graphics, new enemies, new sounds, everything

>>375637823
The strange thing is that you can still use this today as it required no servers.

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>>375630481
>N64 more powerful than PS1
>Textures still look shittier because they had to be compressed to hell and back to fit on a cartridge

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http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_64
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Saturn
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Playstation_1

>>375637772

Not sure how good this game was on the DC but I loved the verliving fuck out of it on PSX:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvw6-FJUQEs

It had some really nice environments and a great soundtrack.

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Daily reminder that Sega of America have a high portion for the blame for the Saturn failing due to their badly-handled surprise E3 Launch.
It also led Sony to 1UP them like they did to Xbone all those years later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExaAYIKsDBI

>>375634169
out of those who've actually played some games on it, /v/ likes the saturn for the most part, it's just an easy console to make fun of

>>375630481
Not understanding that Playstation missing frame. Did the PS1 have frame timing issues? Or do they not know what it means to have vertices snap to integer units?

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When will they get Saturn emulation right?

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>>375630481
>3 triforces
>3X3=9
even hell has it's heroes

>>375645082
RetroArch does it well.
Can't remember which core I used, though.

>>375645082
try mednafen's new saturn core. it is new and has great support, and while not perfect runs everything i throw at it really well. only issue is a lack of savestate support last i checked

>>375645326
you used yabause, i think the only one retroarch supports right now

>>375643070
Nintendo believes in gimmicks, every console they've made has one.

>>375646415
What was the gimmick of the:
>NES
>SNES
>N64
>Gamecube

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>>375634169
i keep forgetting that /vr/ exists

>>375647041
I believe they recently classified the Dreamcast as retro now.

>>375630481
any more of these?

>>375647038
>cross pad
>triggers
>joystick
>analog triggers

>>375633337
what's the significance of this?

>>375647287
I suppose you could see those as gimmicks at the time.

>>375634494
Better games, no load times, multiplayer games, Games that defined genres.

Playstation ruined everything by making final fantasy 7 a thing.

>>375634672
>Nintendo was a firm believer of polygons
Yet a fucking Crash Bandicoot used more polys than Nintendo's masterpiece (according to /v/'s faggotry) Mario 64.

>>375647410
saturn couldn't draw triangles only quads

>>375634672
its like im really playing silent hill

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>>375647593
>Playstation ruined everything by making final fantasy 7 a thing.

>>375630481
shit gen, the previous and the next gens were much better

>saturn
fucking come on, who fell for this scam back then should feel ashamed

>>375630481
wtf is that on the right?

>>375648306
Original Xbox

>>375647593
You just reminded me of an article I saw a while ago which said that Super Mario bros was the first cinematic game because it had a plot and wasn't just about getting points.
I can't seem to find it though.

>>375634169
A lot of people replying to you with bullshit.

I had a Saturn back then. It was definitely the worst of the three because of lack of support and games in the US. However Guardian Heroes was amazing. That controller was also amazing.

Don't really blame people here if they hated it. It was pretty much a waste of money if you only had Saturn. Wish I got to play the Panzer games though.

>PS1 triangles not loading for 40 seconds after every spin
Not accurate.

>>375637823
i have a saturn. If I got this is there any way it could actually work?

>>375634169
because they're delusional faggots that believe they actually played it when it came out. /v/ just hates posers, you shouldn't put the saturn an image of 'le best generaation' when you didn't experience it during that time frame

>>375631294
The best quip I've seen on /v/ in years

>>375647927
More specifically it's "quads" are nothing more than distorted sprites.

>>375644568
thats wrong anon.

>>375645441
Does it run Burning Rangers?
Its literally the only game I care on the Saturn

>>375649735
ive tried it and yes

>>375649128
Yes because it uses dial up and no servers.
Just find someone else with a netlink and you can play together.

>>375647593
Except that FF7 looked really good. And then FF8 came along and ruined everything

>>375649128
http://www.dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8453

>>375630481
wrong n64 was more powerful

hey nintendofags
find me a game as good as wipeout 3 on the n64
find me a game as ggood as fucking spyro
cunt

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>he doesn't know

>>375650261
Wipeout was on the n64, doofus.

>>375650261
Extreme g

banjo kazooie


I still love playstation but id make both of those equal to each other not one is better then the other

Older than that but still relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNpZnAdZGro

>>375635410
>wrong
look at thumbnail

>>375649239
>/v/ just hates posers
nu-/v/ hates everything

>>375636929
I can easily name 200 JP only games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSlGv9aFk4o
>>375635760
>>375639517
>>375640513
Spot the people that were born too late to experience the best gens

>>375639612
I wont lie, I pirated that Syndicate remake, but only out of nostalgia for the awesome works of Bullfrog. I was disappointed though, in the game. It has a couple good game design elements, and a couple good elements, but on the whole was a bastardization.

>>375650412
Not the 3rd one and rest of the series.

Sega was too ambitious with console hardware for their time
They could probably do fine in the current age but it'll never happen

>>375630671
> bitches about Saturn because underage fag can't read japenese

>>375634169
/v/ is full of salty WiiU owners
>durr it sells so it's a better console
at least Saturn has plenty of good games and was a success somewhere else for once

>>375647205
>still no GBA or NGC (not GCN, you twat. NeoGeoColor)

>>375649796
>>375645441
Im fucking playing Burning Rangers
I cant fucking believe it. The day came.
Fucking thank you, my niggas. Seriously.

The change from atari to the nes era was the biggest leap in graphics

Then snes was decent but they perfected gameplay and made the 2d look as perfect as it possibly could be


The ps1 and saturn and 64 though made you play games in a 3d world which never has been brought to the masses untill then.

All games were revolutionary because it allowed for new ways to play games.

PS2 XBOX GC DC
still had some games that had a retro game design
Easy to get into
impossible to master
But half way into that generation
they cut down the difficulty of games

Then they made it a handholding experience the next generation
and now it is even worse besides a few indie games and a few companies which are not going by triple casualization standards


I say
All graphic eras
and all control schemes have a place and if anyone wants to make a game off of any era they can.

>>375652894
Which emulator/core did you end up using?

best gen was ps2.

I didn't even own a ps2 but I can fucking understand that was a magical era where dreams happened.

>>375653051
Mednafen
Again, thank you

>>375652963
Someone should make a parody game where it is a n64 or ps1 looking game but make it play like a modern 2017 shooter with no recoil super easy hand holding

>>375640548
I didn't know Kim used 4chan.

>>375640548
You are genuinely retarded and need to go back to /pol/

>>375639386
PS1 Reavers framerate is literally garbage, and visible jitters all over the place.

>>375649616
It isn't wrong.

>>375653092
nah

nes and sega master system were badasses

That is the golden age of difficulty and reward for trying something and failing and figuring it out.

When you beat a game it felt like an accomplishment

I would say 3rd generation is a platnium era

I would say 4th was platinum mixed with 25 percent gold
I would say 5th was Gold with 2 or three games per system to be platnium in style and how good they were.

6th was 25 percent gold 50 percent silver 25 percent bronze

7th was 60 percent bronze 30 percent silver 10 percent gold and platnium

8th
50 percent bronze
30 percent silver
20 percent gold and platnium

>>375653129
I wasn't the person that gave you the info, I was just watching from the sidelines finding out which core was used.

>>375645441
Many thanks to you, you've made two peoples days.

Thanks for this thread everyone.

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>>375635469
>>375638297
How is the PS1 version of Rayman 2 cutdown? At least it has voice acting on disk, in 3 languages nonetheless. The french dub was top tier for the time as I recall.

>>375635586
I mean, I can appreciate it but it still looks like shit compared to Conker.

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>>375653647
A good chunk of levels are missing. It's a shitty situation choosing between the N64 and PS1 versions
>PS1:
>voice acting
>actual soundtrack
>worse performance and textures
>levels missing
>OBJECTIVELY worse final boss fight

>N64
>complete game
>soundtrack is raped to midi garbage
>better performance and textures
>banjo kazooie gibberish for voices
>proper final boss

the only correct choices are the dreamcast or PC version

>>375654461
PC has the gibberish voices too. I like them better than the actual voice acting

>>375654461
Wasn't PC version the same as N64's?

>>375654673
The voice acting I just added because, I don't really care for the voice acting either. The main edge PS1 has was the soundtrack being kept in tact. Rayman always has patrician soundtracks and hearing them turned into farts by the N64 is heartbreaking.

>people are too butthurt debating over which console is best that nobodies pointed out that this isn't the best gen because its not 6th gen

>>375634169
Its easy to love a console by looking back at it decades after it came out and playing its best games for free on an emulator while ignoring all the bad ones. If you bought a saturn back then you got fucked even if it had a small handful of good shmups or whatever.

>>375654869
With better graphics, higher resolution, higher framerate and the soundtrack intact.

>>375654461
Rayman 1 is the only Rayman worth playing.

>>375655023
A non-retard would only judge a console by all its library,obviously you couldn't play or even know all the games that were released.

>>375654992
see
>>375653606
Casualness of games started during the 6th gen
6th gen was cool but not as good as 5th 4th or 3rd gens

in b4 6th gen kiddies say the PS1 was never called the PSX

Saturn looks the best but I dont get why the n64 is at 30fps.

in this gif saturn>n64>ps1

>>375636904
>muh 2 year late Nshitty4 ports
>muh shoddy PC port means it's not an exclusive

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>>375654461
>ruining a black lotus

>>375655307
>:casualness of games"
what the fuck is that even supposed to mean? are you just a butthurt oldfag? how are those games any less "casual" than the generation before it?

>>375655546
Yes that exactly what it means retard.

You can argue if they are on par or better or not but either way it means those aren't exclusives.

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>>375655624
>being this new to magic

>>375643070
>nintendo use standard storage for the wii, wii u, 3ds
>hacked out the ass
I suppose nintendo just used to be aware of how awful they are at security

>>375637584
Games don't even do this now.

>>375644445
Crash one looks cleaner

>>375655645
Lets compare 2 generations
6th generation started casualness in games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKiBTMbJU2k
This company as known as the most casual company currently allowed this on their system back in the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njzAyjAFCMI&t=24s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSMVxv_4UMU

I see a difference. A complete difference.

3rd generation wanted you to become the best you can at a game and you had to use your reflexes to do good


Next generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QuE36_hZuE

Everything is neutered with no challenge in any thing you are doing.
Buttons are delayed even to the point where the game is almost playing itself.

There should be respect for the old games that kicked your fucking ass.
That difficulty should come back in 3d games but honestly i have never seen a 3d game with that difficulty.

For the base game
dark souls dont count because if you farm you will become op and the game becomes easy

>>375655682
It's not about "exclusives" it's about N64 vs PSX. PC doesn't factor into that at all. It's about games you could not play on Nintendo.

>>375655624
Overrated as fuck card anyway.

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>>375656338

>>375654461
I like the 3DS version... fight me.

>>375644658
no clay fighter
shit list

>>375649543
What the hell is a quad?

I love the wiggly jiggles of the ps1.

>>375656771
A polygon with four sides.

>>375656771
two triangles.

>>375655961
>>375656438
You retards know that's an unlimited version right? Worth a minimum of a thousand dollars.

>>375632789
Its true,very few N64 games run at a higher FPS than 30.

>>375656771
A shorthand term for quadrilateral.

>>375656771
every time

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>>375656771
these. check em

>>375638417
>Yes it does. More polys = more things
Do you know what a quad is?

>>375657101
Same is true for PSX and Saturn.

>>375630481
Even if the games ran bad, i feel like the n64 had the best looking textures. The music synthesizer and textures are very nostalgic. Taking a look at the 360/one ports of banjo, with a simple clean up and upgrade in resolution, the games still look fantastic thanks to great artists, lighting, and textures

>>375647680
>Yet a fucking Crash Bandicoot used more polys than Nintendo's masterpiece Mario 64.
Imagine if Naughty Dog had focused on making Crash Bandicoot good instead of loading it up with polys.

>>375652816
If I recall, NGPC is fair game and GBA is grey area

>>375657726
Crash Bandicoot was good, though.

>>375652816
>Neo Geo Color
No such thing. Do you mean NGPC?

>>375657514
Not really,there are lots of PS1 and Saturn games that run at 60 or at least a stable 30 FPS,the only N64 game that had 60 FPS that i know of are Bangai-O and F-Zero 64 and some famous games that can run at 30 FPS have numerous frame drops.

>>375638417
Anon.
Animation has nothing to do with the geometry of the models.
Animation runs on joints.
The geometry is then skinned to these joints and moved along.

pls

>>375657857
It really wasn't.

>>375657901
Oh!

>>375655624
>being this new

>>375657245
Number faggotry does not work on blue boards. >>>/b/ is more your speed

>>375657796
>>375657862
Nintendo Gamecube is officially initialized as GCN due to NeoGeo Pocket Color being called NGC first tho

>>375657864
Post examples of 3D PS1 and Saturn games that run at 60 fps then?

>>375649990
>FF7 looked really good. And then FF8 came along and ruined everything
8 looks so much better than 7 it's fucking ridiculous

>>375657864
Smash bros and Sin and Punishment are 60fps

>>375658128
Fucking lazy faggot.

http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?26920-Games-with-3D-graphics-running-at-60-fps-5th-Generation-Consoles

>>375658270
And then IX comes and kick VIII's ass all over fucking town.

>>375657514
Most of the notable PS1 games at least keep a pretty stable 24-30FPS apart from the rare slowdown. The same couldn't be said for most of the notable games on the N64, 20's are the average, you'd be lucky to even cross 25FPS, don't even get me started on the response times either.

>inb4 that webm of that one DF Retro video of that shitty game by Shiny Entertainment.

>>375658116
I keep hearing this but I haven't seen any evidence for it. I can't find an official abbreviation listed anywhere and everywhere I see one used it's NGPC except a few times NGCP but never NGC.

>>375658282
>Smash 64
>60fps

When?

>>375658521
60 fps with framedrops

>>375658295
Well that shut me up. Looks like I was wrong.

>>375658767
It's okay to be wrong.

>>375656331
>mario 3d world
>thats the 8th generation you fucking dumbass

if you're going to differentiate between them at least use the n64 and gamecube, and the ps1 and ps2 like you were supposed to you fucking retard, because i see no difference in tones in their respective successors

>>375658569
With framedrops all the time, yes.

At least when playing more than one person.

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>>375649990
>This fucking monstrosity over prerendered backgrounds
>Really good
>Even plain good

Yeah nah.

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>>375630481
Observations
>PSX flickers, has distorted texture
>N64 blurs the texture heavily
>Saturn has a higher framerate, noflicker, preserved texture mapping but has the tops of each triangle cut flat

Saturn a best

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>>375658417
Sure, 9 looks fantastic but has a completely different artstyle so it's easy to appreciate it side by side with 8 because 8 still has the more modern/futuristic thing going on with its environments and FMVs and both of them aged extremely well compared to 7 visually

>>375659183
Saturn uses animated sprites made out of quadrilaterals. It looks good there but for actually making a 3D game it was garbage.

>>375653432
get fucked nerd

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>>375659414
PSX for full 3D
Saturn for everything else

Why did the N64 exist?

>>375630481
>the sega saturn had a logo
Wh-what?

>>375659057
Those ARE prerendered backgrounds anon. Just not as pretty ones as they made them in VIII and IX.

>>375659572
Four player party time.

And boy did it do that well.

>>375659743
No I know, I meant over as in "putting this quality model on top of a prerendered background and calling it good graphics is going a bit far."

>>375630481
Out of those three, I only had PSX and N64 as a kid. Did I miss out on anything?