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BotW just isn't very good

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I seriously cannot fucking believe how shitty people's tastes in games are. I bought a used copy of BotW for WiiU last week, and after a solid 7 hours with the game I promptly returned it the next day. The game is honestly pretty shit.

> The art style is a mess. Low-quality cel-shaded character models against low-resolution semi-realistic textures and environments. Absolutely disgusting.
>Frame rate is abysmal.
>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
>Shrines are boring, repetitive and a terrible replacement for traditional Zelda dungeons.
>Weapon breaking mechanic is blatantly retarded and makes weapons a pointless reward/incentive.
>Where the fuck is the sound track? Don't tell me you "prefer it without music". If you want that shit, go play Skyrim. This is Zelda. Fucking travesty.
>Voice acting is unbelievably atrocious and entirely unnecessary.
>The menus... wow. Could it get any more simplistic? It literally looks like vanilla Skyrim. White lines, opacity, grid inventory. Jesus Christ.
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
>Stamina is a pointless mechanic.
>Traditional dungeons and tool items being removed effectively strips the game of any Zelda identity.
>Overall, combat and gameplay in general are lackluster and boring for a variety of reasons.

Is it the worst game ever? No, but it's a 6 or 7/10. This isn't even close to being a good Zelda game.
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>>375499031
>>Shrines are boring, repetitive and a terrible replacement for traditional Zelda dungeons.
And they don't even have 120 of them. Why is there so much "combat trial" filler
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>>375499121
The whole game feels like filler honestly. It's like they realized they couldn't cram enough real Zelda content into the game, so they just decided to make it a sandbox filled with pointless tasks that would give the illusion of content. Pathetic honestly.
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>>375499031
So you just never played it.

Good work, I actually replied.
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>>375499228
>So you just never played it.
I did. It was pretty bad. I mean, I guess it's easier to discredit my criticisms by imagining I never played the game than actually arguing against them, but outside of your autistic world, reality remains the same.
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>>375499031
Good bait, i rate it 9/10
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>>375499313
Post switch/wiiu plus game with timestamp
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>>375499031

I'd give it a 8/10 (as a Pcbro playing it on cemu)
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>>375499313
>outside of your autistic world, reality remains the same.
Couldn't have said it better.

Overall, I don't even want to argue with you because you do assumptions which shows you didn't play the game, or you did just to shitpost later. I don't care either. Farewell.
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>>375499228
This. He's bitching about a character who wasn't even gay at all, just another flamboyant type that has been in plenty of other Zelda games for comical purposes. I'm sure he's triggered by the crossdressing too as if it was supposed to be serious, which is ironically the same thing that SJWs like Tom Preston are triggered by. Just like Idiocracy is the movie that the left and the right can say "wow, the world would be like this if [the opposite side] had their way", Breath of the Wild is the one that both will say "wow, this really panders to [opposite side]"
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>>375499121
If there were double the amount of puzzle shrines, you would complain about the combat shrines. You're just working off the already huge number the game came with
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I fucking wished Skyrim had an UI like Botw
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i like the hot characters
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>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
Is this a real criticism of yours OP?
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>>375499031
Now let's see who the op really is.

>this game literally panders to homosexuals and women

Old man /pol/!

Yes, and i would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the /pol/ boogieman!
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Why is /v/ getting so fucking triggered by this game?
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>>375501978
Its not real triggering it's shitposting
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>>375501978
It's succeeding critically and commercially. And we can't have anything succeeding.
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>>375501978
The haters on /v/ have all went on to other games.

Only ones making threads now are /pol/.
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lel OP literally can't let it go
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>>375501978
Its the game of the year, and /v/ is sonybro central and they canĀ“t cope with reality
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>>375499031
I just want this open-world meme to die already, how many of my favorite franchises have to be raped before they had enough.

Open-world doesn't make any game better, it's just an excuse for lazy game design.
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>>375503524
What franchises besides MGS and Witcher fucked it up by being OW? Most new titles start out as OW to begin with. And it fit BOTW pretty well I must say. MGS5 and TW3 can go die in a hole though.
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>>375501978
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>>375499031
Stay salty, sonybro
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>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
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Zelda is a shitty series

>enter a room
>there's a big block
>the block can only move in one direction
>push the block in the only direction you can
>the "good boy" sound rings
Finally an intelligent series for intelligent gamers
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>>375499031
>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
i want to take your post serious, but how can anyone with this? why is /v/ full of assblasted manchildren?
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lol sorry you cant enjoy videogames
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>>375503742
>/v/ mods defend Horizon by enforcing copyright bans against critics
>OP and other shitposting threadwill easily reach bump limit
lol
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>>375504320
That's pretty funny coming from somebody that unironically thinks a high school dating sim is GOTY.
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>>375504320
I stopped coming here last year, when did they filtered sony nigger?
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>>375499031
That's my screenshot, you never played the fucking game
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>It's been a month since everyone completed the game and moved on and /v/ is still mad about it

It's kinda sad if you think about it.
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>>375499031
>look at me and my superior taste in video games

whatever floats your boat senpai
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>>375499031

You could have just said, "I have no idea what I'm talking about" and it would have been the same thing.
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>>375499031

Your three first "points" have nothing to do with the quality of the game. I'm not reading the rest.

Kill yourself. Everyone else, don't reply to retards.

BotW has a lot of flaws but discuss them in a non-retarded thread please.
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yeah it's not for everyone, I found it to be pretty fun and I wouldn't rate it above an 8
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>>375499031
I also hate videogames, OP.
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>>375499031
You played for 7 hours but you're talking about things you wouldn't encounter or have enough time to fully experience in 7 hours.

Work on your low tier bait more before posting, faggot.
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>>375499031

Excellent work kicking the Nintendo hornet nest, OP.
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>>375505158
>anon plays through a bulk of the game
>"you didn't spend 100 hours of your life playing it to 100% so your opinion is invalid."
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>>375503981
>tfw I made that pic
And it will never stop being true
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>>375505092
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>>375505358
>reading comprehension
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Guy who actually played the game here

It's great, and I'm sure everyone here knows why, but it's one of the few cases I've found where there's too much substance and not enough style

The gameplay is great and as a game it's top-notch, but it lacks the enemy variety and atmosphere many previous Zeldas had
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>>375505358
You would literally not encounter or experience enough of half that shit in 7 hours, retard. Which means the OP post is just bait.
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>>375505492
I'm exaggerating your implication.
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>>375504332
Agreed.
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>>375505545
Not true, I played 8 hours and got to the final Divine Beast. If I can do that with only one hour more without practice then it says something about what can be done in 7.
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>>375505158

Everything he mentioned is doable in 7 hours of playing the game. Are you just upset that yet another person isn't blinded by nostalgia and gave the game a more understandable 6 or 7 out of 10?

That tolerant Nintendo core fan base always unwilling to take any reasoned criticism.
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>>375505698
>I played 8 hours and got to the final Divine Beast
Sure thing.
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It's a great game but yeah it's overrated as hell. At least /v/ is sane enough to see it's not a 10/10 or even the best 3D Zelda game but it's still a fun novel experience.
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>>375499031
I know this is meme posting and I agree with 90%of it but

>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...

Serously fuck off, not ever game should be talored to you boring as fuck shit tatse. I fucking never get games with cute boys and every fucking time i do you pices of shit screech about it. die in a fire.
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>>375505812
Well, I personally don't have nostalgia for these games since I started playing them about 3 years ago but if you wanna believe someone can't like something you don't with justifiable reasons fine. The game was fun and addicting, but there's not much you could realistically get through in 7 hours, it's not like I was just walking everywhere and it took me around 90 hours to finish it.
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>>375499031
>He spent so much time on this post

(you)
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>>375499031
>This game literally panders to homosexuals
yeah, /v/ loves it. what's you're point?
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>>375505975
Repent sodomite.
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Fuck you I'm having fun. Even after finishing all the shrines and beating Ganon I'm finding new shit to do.
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>>375499031
This same fucking thread every fucking day.

Will /v/ ever recover?

Nintendo made an amazing game. It will win a fuckton of awards. Get over it.
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>>375506075
fuck off /pol/ we know you hate gays and women because neither will fuck you.
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>>375499031
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You actually bought that piece of shit?
I pirated it for cemu, played it for ~15 hours, and I want my money back for the time wasted playing and pirating that garbage.

Real problems with the game aside from your stupid complaining.
>shrines in themselves are not a terrible concept, the problem is there's only 5-10 shrines worth of content and the rest are effectively the same exact shit with a slightly different layout, none of them are difficulty in any capacity
>weapon degradation only serves so you can't rush ganon, and yet it hinders you the entire game, forcing you to grind
>moving down is fun, moving up is a chore, atleast until you get the bird and all map navigation becomes a pointless joke
>level scaling enemies, makes everything you do feel pointless, all the grind to make you better at fighting makes the enemies better, making the grind pointless. And it's not like you need that grind for ganon because he's a fucking joke of a boss.
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>>375499031
>>Climbing is a pointless mechanic
good kek my dude
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>>375506348
>tfw have had a good Christian gf for two years straight
Feels great man. Repent sodomite.
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>>375499031
>>Where the fuck is the sound track? Don't tell me you "prefer it without music". If you want that shit, go play Skyrim
Ironically Skyrim has more music in the overworld than BOTW
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>>375499031
Bwahahahahah keep crying kiddo! BotW is now officially regarded as one of the greatest games ever made. All the tears won't change it.
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>>375506527
Your hand doesn't count
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>>375506527
>christian
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>>375499031
>climbing is pointless
(you)
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>>375506661
Assumption makes an ass out of u and me, repent sodomite.
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>>375506732
>he hasn't accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as the one true savior
God's hand is always out, it's up to you to grab hold.
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>>375506527
I'm stright you stupid pice of shit.
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>>375506447
Half of this post was

>Waaaah I don't wanna find new weapons
>Waaaah I don't like difficulty
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>>375506906
There is absolutely zero way for me to tell if that is true, especially if someone defends sodomites.
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>>375506447
>forced to grind
>grinding is pointless

>get ability to occasionally jump high
>lol all the verticality is bad now

sounds like you did it to yourself anon
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>>375499031
>I will now reveal what a tasteless cunt i am.

The post.
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>>375506885
You only grab the hand because you fear the rod.
Neither exists.
And your children's pensis will be mutilated as punishment for your beliefs.
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>>375507061
This. Why do you hate gays OP?

Accept your inner desires
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>>375507058
You're grinding just to stay alive, otherwise you have no weapons, but it doesn't add up to any sort of purpose.
>lol all the verticality is bad now
The only good thing about the game would be the map design, the high jump makes that irrelevant. How is that not stupid as fuck?
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>>375507195
The high jump adds to the map, you braindead cretin. The verticality is part of the map design, and the high jump makes scaling easier
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>>375506769
>climb halfway up a steep cliff
>it starts to fucking rain
>you just slide back down to the base and have to wait for it to stop fucking raining which can take 10+ min in some cases

loving ever minute.. this is why I spend more time playing HZD than BotW right now because one of these games doesn't feel like an annoying chore half the time.
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Honestly if you aren't Christian in 2017 you deserve to burn in hell along with the other heretics. Same with vacciners that go against the word of our lord
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>>375506935
>BOTW
>DIFFICULTY
I never said anything about difficulty, botw is easily the most casual game I've ever played.
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>>375507274
>not knowing how to climb in rain
>not checking the weather forecast
>not building a fire (yes you can under rain, use your brain) and skip the rain
Of course you are playing a game catering to braindead people more
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>>375507345

Hey just because the game pampers you by saving every minute doesn't mean it's casual.
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>>375507267
>wow now you can access a new 2% of the map by making the other 98% you had trouble with earlier a fucking joke
Okay then anon.
I honestly don't understand why anyone wouldn't rush the bird, it makes most of the game a breeze, and more importantly it makes map navigation fast, because staring at links ass for minutes at a time is boy gay and stupid.
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>>375507087
Our very being, and any other being on this Earth, is proof that God is real. There are many records of atheistic or agnostic scientists coming to the conclusion of a God being in existence.
Jesus walked the Earth and performed miracles.

There is nothing to fear if you are free from sin, but no one is free from sin.
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>ctrl+f
>sony
>sonybro
>nigger
>never play
>dozens of hits

Yep, never change fanboys, as clearly all criticism of this game comes from people who've never played it and are jealous, right?
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>>375499031
I like how 99% of these criticisms are subjective. The only ones that holds water are the framerate issue (which isn't that bad, unless you are fighting a bunch of enemies), and the cross dressing thing (I'm not triggered by it, but it just seems shoehorned in).

You made me reply.
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>>375507553
Lmao how many times are you going to post this picture. At least get a new one
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>>375507520
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How anyone could rate this game a 10/10 before the hard mode is even released is beyond a shill.

The game is way fucking too easy as it is and doesn't have interesting enough dungeons or story to make up for it. Hopefully that changes with the DLC.
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>>375507195
I never once had to "grind" for weapons, I just picked them up as i went along. Game's not that hard.

Also yeah, being able to jump high a couple of times and then waiting for 20 minutes in between does not "ruin" the climbing, unless you are literally just putting down the controller every time the power isnt up
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>>375499031
> The art style is a mess. Low-quality cel-shaded character models against low-resolution semi-realistic textures and environments.
>Frame rate is abysmal.
The performance of the game is easily the worst part of the game. However, the art style is not the problem, but the technical graphics. The game world is beautiful and full of diverse biomes and some areas of plain grassland does not change that.

>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women.
Not homosexuals, just women. Women make up a significant portion of the LoZ playerbase and they have for quite some time so this shouldn't be a surprise. Who even cares?

>Shrines are boring, repetitive and a terrible replacement for traditional Zelda dungeons.
Aside from the tests of strength all of the shrines are unique and most of them are quite enjoyable as light puzzles in between exploration and action. The ones with shrine quests are even more fun. They aren't repetitive at all because they are never the same puzzle.

On the dungeon thing, you can't have an overworld as detailed as BotW's and also have the game full of Hyrule Castle tier dungeons. It's not possible to allocate the resources for a project that huge. If you prefer dungeons, fine, but I find dungeons ugly and I would rather go away from them and Nintendo make a more complex overworld because that is 100% more fascinating to explore to me.

>Weapon breaking mechanic is blatantly retarded and makes weapons a pointless reward/incentive.
I don't really care about virtual trinket hoarding in video games, but I understand many do. I'm not saying I love the durability, but I don't have a huge problem with it either. I like that all enemies drop their weapons and I get new weapons while exploring without ever having to grind for more all the time. The durability system encourages me to use every weapon that I find where in most games I discard 90% of what I find.

1/2
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>>375507345
>I hate video games
It's okay anon you just have to admit it.
This game is no where the most casual game at all, if you think so it just means you've diluted yourself into unreasonably hating the game.
It's a good game nothing you say will change that or the fact that it's one of the most highly rated games ever.
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>>375507553
REALLY
MAKES
ME
THINK

You sure are a dedicated shitposter, I can respect that
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>>375499031
>>375507712
2/2
>Where the fuck is the sound track?
But there is music? You hear music when on horseback, in villages, when climbing sheikah towers, when in shrines, when in labyrinths, when doing divine beasts, when Kass is nearby, when a dragon appears, when in combat... pausing the music in between these things isn't an issue to me. It's not that often unless you just aren't doing stuff, but I don't know why you wouldn't be most of the time.

>Voice acting is unbelievably atrocious and entirely unnecessary.
I agree.

>The menus... wow. Could it get any more simplistic? It literally looks like vanilla Skyrim. White lines, opacity, grid inventory. Jesus Christ.
I agree. It's very bland. Though, I'm sure it was designed this way so that it could be pulled up instantly in combat. I don't like that they service their games for their weaker hardware, however.

>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
How? Everything relies on it. It lets you reach any height and breaks artificial boundaries in games that have climbing, like AC or Uncharted.

>Stamina is a pointless mechanic.
Very wrong. Stamina is what makes traversing the overworld more of an exploratory experience. It might not be hard to figure out how to reach certain heights but you can't just hold down forward and expect to get everywhere, you have to find ledges around mountains in order to get to the top of them usually.

>Traditional dungeons and tool items being removed effectively strips the game of any Zelda identity.
There are tool items in the game - slate abilities and items that you get through the game like the Zora armor.

>Overall, combat and gameplay in general are lackluster and boring for a variety of reasons.
If you don't like the setting then I can understand why you think this. Clearly you didn't if you invested only 7 hours in the game. The setting is the main appeal, and everything else becomes a serviceable add-on towards that as a result.

To me it is a solid 8/10, maybe even 9/10.
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I thought it was pretty good

Majora's Mask is still my favorite though
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>>375499031
I've only played until the end of the Great Plateau on CEMU and I honestly enjoyed what I have played so far. My only major complaint was Zelda's horrible voice acting. The small amount of graphical glitches I've had are from CEMU and not the game so I won't mention that.
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>>375507734
>that bottom pic
Lmao I bet he just bought a Wii U to shitpost all the time
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>>375507335
So you're the ISIS of the western hemisphere?
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>>375507702
It's a kid's game. Rating it based on its lack of a higher difficulty is retarded. I'm sure 5-9 year olds are finding it plenty challenging to begin with.
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>>375507954
I don't go around killing people. The lord will do it for me
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>>375507881
mipha sounds even worse

the only voices in the entire game that I thought were good were the gorons and the white rito
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>>375507725
Anon you can praise this trash to high heaven it won't change my opinion of it in the slightest.
Maybe if I pissed away $400 on a switch I'd be in your boat but I'm not, this game is definitely top 5 most casual games I've ever played and I've played thousands. Even straight puzzle games like portal, peggle, and angry birds are more complicated than most of the puzzles in BOTW, and botw is 95% puzzles.
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>>375499031
>Everyone has shit taste but me!
No lad, you're the one with the shit taste.
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>>375508032
I love it when people assume I have a switch. I'm playing on Cemu and I think you have shit taste
>BotW is 95% puzzles
And a shitposter to boot
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>>375507673
Goodness gracious man.
You have to remember he put us here to test our worth to God so we can come back to him, even if he knows who is truly evil and who is truly righteous when given a completely new life on an entirely different plane of existence, it weeds people out. But He still gives us the chance through free-will, but he doesn't hand out freebies.
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>>375508032
I mean. That's literally just wrong, anon.

There are some very simple puzzles, yeah, but there are also some head scratchers.

Enjoy the weird fantasy world you live in where BotW puzzles are simpler than Peggle, I guess.
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>>375508207
What else is there you dumb faggot?
Farming and fighting?
The farming happens automatically while you're walking around, and the fighting is one of the shittiest combat engines of all time.
>>375508236
Anon if you thought any of the "puzzles" in botw were "head scratchers" I'm sorry but there's just no hope for you anymore.
This is a game clearly marketed towards and made for children, all of these puzzles are meant to be solved by children.
Even if you can't come up with the actual solution you should be able to cheese your way through it with physics within 30 seconds of walking in.
Sorry you have the problem solving capabilities of a 2 year old.
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>>375508215
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>>375507996
You sound well adjusted.
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>>375508215
Imagine being so desperately contrarian you become a catholic because atheism and logic are "reddit"
And faggots like these want their sophomoric opinions on things to be taken seriously. Absolutely pathetic.
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OP here, thanks for the lifetime supply of (you)s
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>>375499031
>Shrines are [...] repetitive
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
>Frame rate is abysmal.

Ebin :D
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>>375508456
I mean, you said you played 15 hours of it. I played like 100. There are several more complicated shrine puzzles and sidequests I guarantee that you didnt finish.

It's fine if you didnt want to play enough of the game to find that stuff. But it's in there.
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>>375508793
Nobody can disagree that the framerates are borderline unplayable. It has hard 20fps framecaps for fuck sake.
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>>375508456
>farming
?
>shittiest combat systems
Damn, what games have you been playing?
Also calm down

>>375508732
You're welcome, have another
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>>375508032
Lol your autism is showing through, you're fucking lying if you think this is one of the most casual games ever. Your opinion was discarded the minute u said that.
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>>375508732
No, I'm OP.
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>>375508891
>framecap of 20fps
Good bait, have a (You)
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>>375508861
Anon I don't know how you waded through 99 hours of shit shrines for an hour of good ones, but good on you for defending this game as a 10/10 when it doesn't even have a 0.1/10 worth of good shrines (which stands as 95% of the game's actual content)
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>>375508891
Fuggin ebin, ebin for the win
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>>375508923
No it's me
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>>375508980
>I don't like video games, let me tell you about my superior taste.
Kys
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>>375508980
How many have you done?
Out of the 70~ I did
At least 20 of them have pretty good puzzles
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>>375508974
When you reply to someone nowadays it says "(You)" at the end of the post link. You don't need to manually type it in the post, idiot.
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>>375508910
>Damn, what games have you been playing?
Ones where I can't just spam parry and bomb arrows to blow through the entire game.
Ones where there's actually a purpose to fighting, like xp, so I don't just run past every encounter on my horse.
>>375508974
Every villiage and forest is 20 fps capped. I know your pathetic consolefag eyes can't tell the difference but cemu just tells me outright, and I always had the game running at cap with no dips. Nowhere near as bad as my little cousin's wiiu version of the game which regularly dropped into obviously single-digit framerates.
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>>375508617
Nice argument.
>>375508667
Are you kidding?
Firstly, not Catholic. Secondly, the dumbing down and attack on Christianity results in the dumbing down of people's consciousness and morality. People don't fear God because they now believe nothing is expected of them. Atheists are not logical.
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>>375499639
>I fucking wished Skyrim had an UI like Botw
Someone make this happen.
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>>375509162
>muh cemu
Faggots like you should kill themselves
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>>375509162
>20fps capped
Hmmm...really...makes...me...think
https://youtu.be/w6NkNgI1ssw
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>>375509156
~30, not a single one was "good", but to be fair 10 shrines in I stopped solving them and just started abusing the shitty physics engine to get an instant resolution out, that's the nature of shitty physics puzzle games.
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>>375509206
There's really no argument necessary. Your positions are self-defeating.
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>>375499031
>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
lol

who fucking gives a shit, if this even matters to you then why don't you point out that the two main characters are still a white blonde heterosexual couple where the woman is submissive and the man saves her?
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>>375509252
Thank you, I didn't feel like searching for evidence myself.
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>>375509297
So tell me how that is?
If you're so logical and above it all then it should be child's play to "debunk" someone like me right?
Or do you default to non argument?
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>>375508006
The king of hyrules voice was pretty good but LoZ really shouldn't have voice acting beyond a few small lines during cutscenes like Windwaker.
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>>375509264
Then it's on you. If you choose to skip the game lets you, but it means you skip the content. So basically you only did 10, 4 of which are tutorial shrines. Not a strong argument about puzzle quality here
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>>375508980
Most of the game isnt puzzles and I enjoyed most of them when they popped up, despite them being easy. Just the fact that theyre not all themed around the item you picked up in the same dungeon made them more fun than 90% of Zelda puzzles.

You're just incorrect about most of the content of this game.
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>>375499031
>>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...

The only thing you are right. cute hylian boy triggers my penis. not even trap one
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>>375509417
You that desperate for (You)s?
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>faggot that turned into a catholic because of contrarianism unironically tries to convince others his hot opinions on instant classics he hasn't played have any validity whatsoever
You can't make this shit up.
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>>375499031
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>>375509373
Nice try
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>>375509492
>Just the fact that theyre not all themed around the item you picked up in the same dungeon made them more fun than 90% of Zelda puzzles.
Definitely this. I liked that most abilities are unlocked near the start of the game. It made every shrine's puzzle a bit more interesting that way.
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>>375509451
>Not a strong argument about puzzle quality here
I only blew past them because I saw all the set pieces and knew it would be faster to just abuse my way through it.
That alone is a testament to the lack of puzzle quality.
>>375509595
Okay, my point still stands, it's clearly at a 20fps cap in my picture which came from your link.
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>>375509552
You that desperate to have no morality?
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>>375499031
That guy is actually straight, mentions his wife and children at one point. The flamboyant homosexual stereotype birdman is also straight.
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>>375509373
>hard 20fps cap guise!!!
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>>375509739
See >>375509373
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>>375509656
>Okay, my point still stands, it's clearly at a 20fps cap in my picture which came from your link.
That's called vsync you dumb motherfucker.
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>>375509656
>cap
I'm not sure you know what it means
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>>375509656
actually most people think puzzles with multiple solutions are a good thing
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>>375509683
>I am sincerely a catholic, this isn't contrarian posturing
Nobody believes you.
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>>375509820
Clearly I do, otherwise it wouldn't be stuck at 20 fps during certain segments (anything that isn't an empty open field or 2 trees and a moblin).
>>375509373
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>>375509802
>cap
Are you just retarded or shitposting?

Also don't move the goalposts. It's Vsync, not a cap
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>>375509910
What a gigantic fucking obnoxious retard
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>>375509834
Yeah except it's not multiple solutions, it's one "right" solution and then just the same exact physics exploit that I used for the last 15 shrines I did.
>>375509929
I seriously doubt you have a 20hz television.
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>>375509910
Then what is this?
>>375509820
>>375509739
Admit your loss
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>>375507673
>no one can counter this
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>people would complain that he panders to homos if he was created today

This is how humorless people are these days.
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>>375510019
>Vsync only works at 20hz
Please read up on what Vsync is before shitposting

And can you tell me the "same" exploit?
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>>375509875
>says I'm not Catholic
>"nah you're Catholic"
I can see why you say it's contrarian, most people are roboticized husks going from the next "pleasure" to the next. You don't have to believe in me. You have to believe in God, along with millions of others who try to follow the gospel as best they can.
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>op still making retarded shit up out of desperation to hate a widely praised game
How can he cope with life?
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>>375510104
There is no valid escape to the Epicurus paradox. Any god in the christian sense must be either impotent or evil to have allowed a world like ours to exist.
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>>375510114
Incorrect, Tingle was goofy and more of just a plain freak or cartoon character. Crossdressing is very homosexual, but in BOTW it goes out of it's way to make it not fagshit.
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>>375501891
+1
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>>375510139
This is the most virtue signaling pseudo intellectual bullshit I've read in this shit website, I hope that you're aware that you're a fucking joke, and that praising god or being contrarian doesn't make you less of a retard and a tryhard dick.
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>>375510314
>+1
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>>375499031
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
Free-climbing is what makes the world interesting to explore. We finally have a Zelda game where you can climb the walls surrounding a village and discover what's up there.
Climbing out of Kakariko and realizing it was still a location in a seamless open world instead of just another loading zone was the moment I truly understood what a huge deal this game was for the Zelda series.
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>>375510307
>Tingle was goofy and more of just a plain freak or cartoon character
So people would actually complain that he was offensive to homos. Got it.
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>>375510019
A lot of the puzzles are designed to allow for physics exploits that are a large part of the core game design.

Brute forcing several of them the same way doesnt mean they're bad puzzles. It really says more about how you're playing the game. it's like when someone complains that they can beat an action game by mashing the same combo over and over. Yes - you can - but you're kind of spoiling it for yourself.
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>>375510046
>Then what is this?
Flat ground, one tree, running at an unstable 30-20fps.
Obviously when he lands the villiage stops being an LOD skeleton and completely loads in, at which point the game drops to the 20 fps cap as set for villages.
>>375510127
The point of vsync is to synchronize your framerate to your television's refresh rate. That's not what's happening here. this is a frame cap that exists so your framerate isn't jumping around constantly between 20 and 30, because nintendo knows the hardware is too shit to properly run slightly more complex scenes like that at a stable 30. It's a framecap for stability, not vsync.
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>>375510407
I go to church most weeks, pray every day multiple times, study theology, and read the scripture each day. I don't need to prove anything to you, you need to seek God and repent.
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>>375510564
You need to kill yourself, tryhard contrarian, you don't do any of those things and you're fooling nobody, this still doesn't justify your shit opinions on things.
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>>375499031
> The art style is a mess. Low-quality cel-shaded character models against low-resolution semi-realistic textures and environments.
Agree, they should've changed a bit the characters because they clash with the background artstyle.
>Frame rate is abysmal.
W I I U
I
I
U
>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow..
"BWAH! Why doesn't this game pander to me and only me?!!"
>Shrines are boring, repetitive and a terrible replacement for traditional Zelda dungeons.
Agree. They should've kept the dungeons and make another alternative other than shrines to make the world less empty.
>Weapon breaking mechanic is blatantly retarded and makes weapons a pointless reward/incentive.
I didn't find it that bad, keeping the weapons would make the player very strong by the end of the game.
>Where the fuck is the sound track? Don't tell me you "prefer it without music". If you want that shit, go play Skyrim. This is Zelda. Fucking travesty.
Agree.
>Voice acting is unbelievably atrocious and entirely unnecessary.
It's not THAT bad, but yeah, it's unnecessary.
>The menus... wow. Could it get any more simplistic? It literally looks like vanilla Skyrim. White lines, opacity, grid inventory. Jesus Christ.
Okay, Anon, this has to be the worst complaint ever.
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
>Stamina is a pointless mechanic.
They're not, but explaining it would take a lot of time and I'm sure other guys have already explained them here.
>Traditional dungeons and tool items being removed effectively strips the game of any Zelda identity.
I prefer when games don't have an identity, because it limits them.
>Overall, combat and gameplay in general are lackluster and boring for a variety of reasons.
This one is not a complaint unless you elaborate.

Overall the game is better than mediocre but far from perfect.
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>>375510540
Then what is THIS?

How are you going to wriggle your way out?
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>>375507918
nah, had a WiiU for ages.

I bought it when MK8 came out.
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>>375510564
>i go to church, pray multiple times, the hang out on 4chan and argue with strangers

seems legit
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>>375510497
>by mashing the same combo over and over. Yes - you can - but you're kind of spoiling it for yourself.
That's fucking retarded and it just goes to show how much of a casual game this is.
If you're not playing a game with the sole intention of beating it as effectively as possible then you're playing like a scrub. Obviously that doesn't matter in BOTW because there's nothing to "beat" because it's fundamentally a casual game where nothing matters in the slightest and everyone's a winner just for playing. But I still played it like I would play any other game, subject to the rigors of me looking for any crack in it's design to find a new way to blow through the game more effectively. Some games can pass this test, obviously botw as a casual game cannot, and the only reason you don't see the cracks is because you refuse to let objective analysis cloud your fanboy delusions of nintendo's perfection.
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>most of BotW threads were and are turned into /pol/ or /lgbt/ thread
Was it decided from the start?
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>>375510661
Sure man, believe what you want, I know my faith is strong through my actions. It's not my fault what happens to you in the afterlife, I sincerely ask you to get a Bible and start reading.
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>>375510764
>still in the air
>still staring at the ground
I don't know dipshit, how about you read my post again.
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Legitimate question, when does BotW get fun? I'm not far at all, maybe two hours or so in, but I feel myself falling asleep riding from point to point on my shitty horse.
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>>375510540
And THIS?
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>>375510869
Yes. It's planned by like 20 faggots on irc that find enjoyment in creating /v/'s opinions, and some underage retard like OP always falls for it.
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>>375510829
Vidya is fun, even if it is pointless.
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>>375510869
Gay link is the only good thing to come of this game. You can't discuss the game itself without finding a million flaws ontop of the standard million that come with shitty open world game design.
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>>375510830
oh ok, so you're literally a crazy person

glad we cleared that up

like, seriously, I enjoy breaking video game systems, but go back and read what you just wrote and tell me with a straight face you're not a broken person

enjoy asserting your dominance over children's toys while furiously grimacing
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>>375510954
You can see how close he is, and the villagers and buildings already loaded in. Nice try though
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>>375505698
>I played 8 hours and got to the final Divine Beast.
No, you didn't, or if you did you literally went from one to the next without doing anything else or fighting anything.
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>>375510964
Fuck off you shit posting cunt nobody cares.
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>>375511096
You're delusional dude, just cause someone wants a real challenge in a damn video game doesn't mean they're crazy.
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>>375510830
>I "play" games as an autist therefore this game is bad
And faggots like these are the ones trying to rewrite history.
BotW is the best Zelda ever made and one of the best games ever made. Stay salty.
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>>375510778
Doesn't make what I say wrong though
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>>375506447
>I pirated it for cemu, played it for ~15 hours, and I want my money back
>Cemu
>Money back
>He paid to pirate

I FUCKING HATE NINTENDO BUT PLEASE LET ME PLAY THEIR GAMES, PLEASE
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>>375510998
No npc, no trees, just flat ground with dirt-quality textures and simple wooden doodads and the game still can't run it at a stable 30 fps.
And the funniest part is that you think 30 fps isn't unplayable to begin with
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>>375510964
How did you get off the plateau so soon? >>375511278
>no NPCs
Ummm try again sweetie
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>>375511114
The chunk doesn't load until you land dipshit.
All you're seeing is LOD ghosts.
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>>375511224
personally, I think there's a difference between "wanting a challenge" and what I just read, but whatever you say pal
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>>375511359
Sure, anon. Where's your source?
What has not loaded yet?
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>>375511367
The guy just sounds like a faggot.
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>>375511241
Nobody cares. BotW is officially regarded as one of the greatest games ever made by critics, journalists, industry devs and gamers alike. So fucking cry some more for me kiddo. Won't change shit.
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>>375511224
>playing games like an autistic person is wanting a real challenge now
It's like I'm really on /v/
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>>375499445
>Idiocracy
>tfw idiocracy wouldn't be that bad compared to where society is headed now
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>>375511239
>game is full of flaws
>"If I ignore them and pretend they don't exist the game is perfect"
Good for you anon, games are meant to be played to their fullest, and flaws are meant to be exploited to their fullest. Just because you play with nails driven through the palms of your hands doesn't make it any more difficult as a video game.
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I think Breath of the Wild is better when you aren't much of a LoZ fan. Been playing video games since the end of the 80s and I only ever really played a bit of Ocarina, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess - I didn't finish any of them. Wasn't that into the aesthetic and I was into other games, mostly arcade and PC. But I appreciate Breath of the Wild a lot.
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>>375509651
>Each can be completed in 20 minutes
If you're using a walkthrough, sure.
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>>375511278
>goalpost shifting intensifies
>Clearly I do, otherwise it wouldn't be stuck at 20 fps during certain segments (anything that isn't an empty open field or 2 trees and a moblin).
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>>375499434
Does it play well on a steam controller?
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>>375511528
"games are meant to be played to their fullest"

just fucking listen to yourself my dude

what the fuck does that even mean

man I wish I could put you in a jar and show you to my friends
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>>375511445
Nothing's loaded, all you're seeing is the low quality facades. Play it in cemu at a proper resolution and you'll be able to see the moment where you land and the entire area loads in, suddenly everything pops in and the quality goes way the fuck up, and the framerate goes way the fuck down.
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>>375499031
All these can be fixed by you not having shit taste.
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>>375511528
>full with flaws
>has to beat puzzles like an autist and not in the intended way to find them
>most of the complaining is filler
>game is full with flaws bruh bruh it's a 5/10 trust me I played it for SEVEN hours.
No. Kill yourself.
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>>375511586
>posts empty field
>"hurr how is this running at 30 fps then"
Because it's an empty field.
>>375511685
I'm saying you can either utilize everything in the game to the maximum utilizability and realize how this game is a poorly constructed mess, or you can pretend it doesn't exist and you can pretend this is a good game as a result.
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>>375511685
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>>375499228
Fuck off apologist

I got a Switch just for this game. It was decent but had plenty of flaws including everything OP said. Hopefully the next title is good. This one was a lot of wasted potential.
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>>375511807
Sorry if I found a way to exploit this poorly designed game to make it easier and faster by using my brain. Perhaps if you were as smart as me you wouldn't be stuck staring at a square box and a square hole wondering "how the fuck can I possibly do this puzzle it's too hard ;-;"
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>>375511812
so your argument is "only gamers as HARDCORE as I am can even realize this game is bad"

i couldnt write this shit
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>>375511812
>maximum utilizability
>poorly constructed mess
That's it, he's broken and having a meltdown.
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>>375499031
6/10, you mixed in legitimate criticisms with really fucking stupid ones, decent bait.
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>>375511812
>empty field
N-nani
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>>375499031
>>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
So weenies hate Zelda? Guess I have to get it now...
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>>375511962
>tfw to smart two play a game properly
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>>375499031
it's the worst game ever made
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>>375499031
it's the best game ever made
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>>375512195
this dude is honestly making my day
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>>375511998
My argument is you're choosing not to recognize the flaws in this game and as a result it's a perfect game to you. I don't care why you're doing this, but it's not an objective standpoint by any means.
>>375512045
The problem is when you hit the point of maximum utiliziability you instantly realize the game was never meant to be used that way and you're just abusing poorly thought out mechanics in a poorly designed game.
>>375512084
Wow an empty field and one eight of a tree.
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>>375511812
>empty field
>>375509595
>>375510998
And what's your first post?
>>375508891
>it has a hard 20fps cap for fucks sake

Then you started furiously shifting goalposts
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>>375511341
Maybe it's been longer than two hours then. I felt like running and completing the four trial temples were awfully quick.

>>375511180
>getting this aggressive when somebody speaks negatively about the start of a game
Don't be a child.
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>>375512382
>poorly thought out
>poorly thought out
>no further elaboration
>believe me, this game is shit, I played it for SEVEN hours
Wew... so this... is the desperation... of a /v/irgin... with a bad case... of sour grapes...
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>>375512396
>it has a hard 20fps cap for fucks sake
I didn't say always.
It ALWAYS has a MINNIMUM of a 30fps cap.
Meanwhile in any villiage
>hard 20 fps cap
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>>375512382
The video is cropped, so nice try
Here have another "empty field"
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>>375512579
>entire game focuses around world navigation
>can hook yourself up to a rock and navigate the world in seconds instead of hours
Can't possibly understand what part of this is poorly thought out, nope, not in the slightest.
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>>375504332
Don't forget your rule of three bosses with hugely telegraphed attacks and glowing weaknesses.

Zelda has always been baby tier trash.
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>>375512648
>in any village
Whoa, what about these then? Not villages?
>>375509595
>>375510998
>>375512661
>inb4 further shifting
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>>375512382
I never said I thought it was perfect, and wouldn't.

But honestly, "i can ignore some of its flaws" is way more convincing than "i have played the game for 7 hours, and utilized every part of it to this fullest, thus I can say the game is bad." Because you realize you're arguing against a massive consensus right? MOST people think this game is great, which doesnt make it true, but it does mean you have to present a compelling case. You have to convince.

You sound like a joyless tryhard and no one will ever agree with you
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>>375512758
>this fucking nitpick
Desperate as fuck.
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>>375512401
Actual criticism invites discussion. "This game is boring" isn't criticism, it's shit posting at it's purest.
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>>375512661
Who knows what this is a picture of anon, I can't see more than 20 feet.
Perhaps it's a open field, perhaps it's a magical wonderland, the point is the game doesn't have to render shit past 20 feet so it's not even "an empty field" because that would actually have a much higher render cost than LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING
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>>375512758
Revali's Gale is essentially the same thing, so no. Good try though
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>>375499031

Here's how it is - Nintendo promised Breath of the Wild for the Wii-U and in doing so millions of people bought the piece of shit console that the game didn't even come out for.
Flashforward a couple of years and Nintendo has delayed, delayed, delayed, the hype train has ramped up to exaggerated proportions: Breath of the Wild has to be exceptional, otherwise all of the Nintendo fans have wasted their time and money on a game that was a waste of time and money.

Frankly, the only reason Breath of the Wild did as well as it did was due to the nature of its release; it was made so big that it couldn't fail, and for the Nintendo fans to admit that the game had shortcomings would be admitting to themselves that they wasted their time and money on two consoles for one game that wasn't worth either.
They know it deep down, but admitting it would require self-awareness on an unheard of level.
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>>375512794
Who knows what they are, it's "raining", you can't see anything, there's too much LOD fog.
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>>375512661
>cherry picking one part of Kakariko

That fucking place gets to the single digits.

t. someone who actually played the game and is willing to be honest about its many flaws
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>>375512758
I cant believe you're arguing that launching yourself on a stasised rock is bad

i think you might be incapable of fun
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>>375512909
>millions of people having fun with a game are faking it because of ppr and only I know it
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>>375512846
What am I supposed to criticize if I'm barely scratching the surface of a large game? Anything I say will be met with "you haven't played the game/long enough" and if I don't say anything (because I'm relatively ignorant on the game's content) I get labeled a shitposter.
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>>375501978
Autists can't handle change. I'm not even joking, that's the real reason why 4chan doesn't like BOTW. They need games to be the same forever, that's why they love japanese games.
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>>375512883
It's raining and foggy though
So goalpost shifting again to draw distance? Here have another 20fps capped village
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>>375512889
>Revali's Gale
The difference is one of them requires you to go through some effort to obtain, the other one I was using within 15 minutes of the game actually starting.
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>>375512997
that's not relevant to the argument though
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>>375513157
There's no goalpost shifting anon, if you're only rendering half a scene obviously it doesn't need to use the cap.
Also it's never pissing rain and foggy at the same time in the real world.
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>>375507274
Check the weather forecast you dweeb.
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>>375513192
>goalpost shifting
You wanted a way to go up cliff faces quickly. Also please lost a speed run of you getting Revalis Gale in fifteen minutes from the start
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>>375513307
>20 FPS cap

wow that's fucking stupid, it was easy enough to just say "BotW's framerate is bad" but he had to go full retard and make up nonsense

>>375513325
stop posting
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>>375513325
Then address the picture you quoted.
And it happens in real life, have you literally never gone out before?
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>>375513046
Exaggerating enjoyment =/= faking it.
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>>375512909
Here's how it is - BotW has a few niggling issues which amount to little more than nitpicks. The game isn't perfect and you can't please all the people all the time. But none of the game's minor blemishes come anywhere close to overshadowing what is incredible adventure and an absolute masterclass in game design. What Nintendo achieved, on the tech they used, is fucking astounding.

There are genuine Zelda fans who take issue with the direction the game took but most of the negativity is simply from assblasted sonybros and PCqueers who seem to be unable to handle that Nintendo made a good game. The same fucking twisted morons who seem to be completely in denial of Nintendo's previous acomplishments and inspiration to the entire industry. The sheer unchecked salty jealousy is fucking hilarious. Imagine the ass sting on here once the awards start rolling in.
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>>375499031
It's not OoT/MM good, but it's still a very, very enjoyable adventure.

I'd say it isn't much Zelda-like if you were used to previous games. It has no major dungeons, it has the annoying durability system, but at the end of the day, you still get one of the best gaming experiences Nintendo ever achieved.

It's satisfying to explore and improve your equipment, something other Zeldas failed to achieve. I can't wait for the next game, when they may finally merge the traditional Zelda formula with all the QOL improvements BotW did.
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>>375499439
>You didnt play the game because I say so.
Farewell stuck up teenager.
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>>375513428
No you stupid nigger I'm saying you can rock surf within 15 minutes of the game.
>>375513529
The picture I quoted is at the 20 fps cap.
>And it happens in real life, have you literally never gone out before?
I have, have you? Drizzle during fog works out, but anything more than that and fog is gone within 5 minutes because the rain will just pick up all the moisture particles on the way down assuming the shift in cold pressure didn't take it down to begin with.
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>>375513776
>What Nintendo achieved, on the tech they used, is fucking astounding.
BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this must be b8
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>>375511241
It's not like I'm making constant threads to shitpost. I'm just calling out fanboys who use the Sony boogieman to divert criticism.
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>4chan has been saying zelda is stale for years
>BOTW smashes almost every zelda convention
>"REEEEEEE, I don't like change"
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>>375513993
Live in ignorance my friend.
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It's great.
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>>375499031
>> The art style is a mess.
Agreed, I just don't like it. WW is the one-off, "artsy" zelda game which I'm ok with, but why make another? Also I just really really hate cel-shaded shit, seems lazy.
>>Frame rate is abysmal.
Expected from console games, but still worse fps than expected given the simple graphics.
>>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women.
Get used to this from any AAA company. Same goes for the biggest movie/music studios. Highest levels push agendas, gotta go local or small time for non-biased entertainment.
>>Shrines are boring, repetitive and a terrible replacement for traditional Zelda dungeons.
Agreed, one of the many "ideas" that Nintendo copied from Bethesda.
>>Where the fuck is the sound track?
Early Zeldas are packed with iconic music, to leave it out now is pretty lazy. Not bad, not good, not shortsighted, not risky, just.....lazy.
>>Voice acting is unbelievably atrocious and entirely unnecessary.
VA in zelda games is absolute cancer.
>>The menus... wow. Could it get any more simplistic?
Nothing wrong with this. Game UIs should always be simple and quick to use.
>>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
>>Stamina is a pointless mechanic.
Agreed, more lazy copying.
>>Traditional dungeons and tool items being removed effectively strips the game of any Zelda identity.
They had to remove these for BoTW to be fully sandboxed. "we had to make a giant change to zelda so that we could make a small change to zelda"
>>Overall, combat and gameplay in general are lackluster and boring for a variety of reasons.
It's always been somewhat boring, but that was ok since the enviroments and feel of the game were so unique and fun. With copy/paste sandbox shit it fails hard.
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>Some guy posts BOTW isn't good bait
>300 replies
Fuck this board
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>>375514060
>BOTW smashes almost every zelda convention
>people have problems calling it a Zelda game for those reasons
>bu...but The title on the box...

Botw is ok, mediocre as an open world game, good as a zelda game

for sure not a 10 out of 10 game
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>>375514060
They barely changed it, they added shitty physics gimmicks, shitty open world gimmicks, and removed all of the quality dungeon design, atmosphere, and music that everyone knew and loved about zelda
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>>375514060
4chan is not one person, and not all change is good change.
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>>375499031
>I'm Shitposter! Look at me!
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>>375499031

the only thing I miss from older zelda games is the combat skills from TP, everytime I knock down an enemy in BOTW I'm mad as fuck that I cannot plunge my weapon in their fucking body and have to wait like a honoraburu samurai for them to get up again or autistically ram their body and make them fly away from me breaking combo
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>>375514234
>adding shitty gimmick to features like physics is all I need to make them look bad
What a shitpost
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>>375499031

OP makes valid arguments but we are forgetting the most glaring flaw and that is you cannot cum inside fish wtf nintendo
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>>375514483
Sorry anon but you can't just take a decade-old gimmick that everyone stopped giving a shit about and stick a nintendo logo on it to make it good.
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>>375500915
So you're a typical weeb who buys games in order to fap?
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>>375514374
Oh boy it's Reddit and Morty

Get >>>/out/
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>>375499439
He names like 15 criticisms about the game and your reply is "YOU DIDNT PLAY THE GAME". This is how you know you're a fucking faggot whose feelings were hurt, but he refuses to get into an argument because you're afraid of getting BTFO
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>>375514569
Where would you even cum? The fish models didn't have sex organs.
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>>375514607
>b-but reddit!!!!

kys
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>>375514569
>we are forgetting the most glaring flaw and that is you cannot cum inside fish wtf nintendo
That's just the nature of having a game be a nintendo exclusive.
Maybe if you're lucky cemu mods will go far.
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>>375514701

>Where would you even cum?

point and click
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>>375499031
Nitpicking shit because a game is popular and doing well. Get a better hobby anon.
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>>375499031
Poor mr.shitposter, he'll never stop with the salt
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>>375514234
>boss battles are actual battles now, not "hit glowing weak spot three times"
>enemies are actual threats now and not just cannon fodder
>no heart-pieces as a reward for everything
>rupees are actually worth a damn this time
>you get all your powers from the start of the game
>it's not "forest temple, fire temple, water temple, darkness temple" for the fifteenth time
>you get a bow in the first ten minutes of the game
>you can finish the game without even touching the master sword
>Link doesn't wear his traditional tunic
>Epona is nowhere to be seen
>no "second world" gimmick
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>>375499031
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
The game has a lot of flaws, climbing on the whole isn't one of them.

>>375503736
FFXV, and most of BotW's problems outside weapon durability are because it's open world.

>>375507712
>I'm not saying I love the durability, but I don't have a huge problem with it either.
It's a shit mechanic desu. There are only a handful of weapons relevant endgame and everything else is redundant and inferior. We shouldn't be penalized for engaging enemies in combat or have our weapon choices dictated by an RNG event.
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>>375514652
Or nobody wants to waste their time arguing with a dumb shitposter that hasn't played the game.
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>>375499031
>Daily shitpost thread disguised as trying to offer criticism
You put in some effort, 2/10.
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>>375499031
This bait never gets old.

Top tier laughs my man.
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>>375499358
OP BTFO
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>>375515247
Fighting is a joke, the only reason heart pieces aren't reward for everything is because now you can grind for stamina too, so it's either stamina or heart that you're grinding for.
Rupees are easy to farm, so everything they can get you is only worth the amount of time required to grind it out.
The powers are boring, and finding them at the start of the game just means you'll never be rewarded with anything interesting the entire game (except maybe the divine beast powers, so 4 "worthwhile" items for 100 hours worth of grind)
The temples are still generic tropes, there's just 4 of them this time and they're terrible with minimal effort put into them because the game is effectively a shrinefarm
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>>375507725
I've noticed a trend with the BOTW defense league.
You always misquote or making up arguments for the people you disagree with. You never actually seem to address what they say, you just make up an argument and attack that.
Weird innit.
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>>375515583
>Rupees are easy to farm, so everything they can get you is only worth the amount of time required to grind it out.

If you grind in a singleplayer game, then you literally hate fun.
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>>375499031
how come these threads are allowed daily, most reaching bump limit, whilst the horizon threads are always pruned?
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>>375499031
>7 hrs
> seen enough shrines to feel that it is repetetive
> seen gay shit
> low framerate after the patch
> climbing is a pointless mechanic
>agan 7 hrs

0/10 at least pretend that you've played less than 3 or more than 20 hours in order for any of these points to be credible
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>>375515740
Most drone fanbases are like that, nintendofans are by far the most insufferable because they clearly don't even read the post they respond to, you'll often see chains like
>this game is too easy
responded to by
>TOO HARD FOR YOU?! I BET YOU DIDN'T EVEN PLAY IT
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>>375515872
This game is pure unadulterated grind anon, I don't see how you can have fun with it period. There's nothing to do other than to grind. Shrines make up a majority of the game's content and they're always just block stacking or object flinging for the sake of grinding hearts and stamina.
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>>375515917
but gay link threads also didnt get deleted
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>wahhh gay people
>Wahhh traps
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>>375516152
actually, they do now
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>>375499031
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>375516242
that's bad
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>>375515740
It's literally impossible to have any kind of discussion because the critics have nothing to offer in the way of genuine FAULTS. Everything they complain about amount to nothing more than nitpicking or personal preference.

The closest the game got to having a genuine fault was the frame rate drop in a few isolated areas which has now been patched.

Someone feel free to name ONE single genuine fault. Just one.
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>>375516108
How is doing a different shrine each time grinding. Grinding is doing the same thing over and over again, like farming arrows which some retards do to "beat the system".
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>>375510019
nobody's forcing you to do the exploit.

You sound like one of those faggots who takes games way to seriously
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>>375516259
That is literally what you are doing right now. You are triggered I dont like your shitty game.
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>>375516421
>It's literally impossible to have any kind of discussion because the critics have nothing to offer in the way of genuine FAULTS.
>being this much of a retarded shill
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>>375516421
>Someone feel free to name ONE single genuine fault. Just one.
The fact the game is solely designed around endless grind with no concrete purpose considering everything you fight is weak, even the final boss, and most enemies scale relative to your gear and number of upgrades anyway?

Oh wait all "genuine faults" are just "nitpicking or personal preference"
Sorry my personal preference is GOOD GAMES where you have a PURPOSE and aren't forced to grind the entire time.
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>>375516571
so, literally the opposite of what you're doing ;^)
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>>375516514
> Grinding is doing the same thing over and over again
Only something like the first 15 shrines are in any way creative or original, the next 30 you do are minor cosmetic variants on the first 15, the next 60 after that aren't even cosmetic variants they're just the same exact shit as the first 45.
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>>375516421
The 4 divine beasts are pretty shit imo. The boss-battles with ganon are fun, but I would have preferred some visual variety from the main dungeons of the game.

>>375516627
nigga, nobody is forcing you to grind anything. Especially if you think the enemies are that easy to fight you should never have a reason to grind.
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>>375516613
hes right tho
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>>375499313
>outside of your autistic world, reality remains the same

You can read your own damn line. It's a 97/100 game outside of your autism world where you think it's a bad game.
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>>375515740
Kek what am I supposed to say, "you're wrong it was hard for you" at this point he's just trying to objectify something that is purely subjective. I'm the done with the argument most people like the game as it is one of the highest rated games of all time, I like the game, he doesn't, whatever he can have fun being angry I'm just gonna do something I like.

Also you're retarded for not being able to see that what he said was subjective.
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>>375516757
>nigga, nobody is forcing you to grind anything.
What else is there to do?
Tell me, because all I see is farming seeds or farming dungeons.
Hell there isn't even any fucking point to fighting enemies because they never drop anything worth shit unless you're farming a super specific type of enemy with a super specific drop, so all you can do is the divine beats and ganon, which takes up maybe 3-5 hours of gameplay total, followed by endlessly farming shrines and seeds, neither of which gives you anything worth farming for.
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>>375516927
Name a single game that you like.
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>>375503742
>Zelda a game series that's been around for 20+ years by one of the biggest companies in gaming history does better than a brand new IP released around the same time

HORIZON FAGS BTFO HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER
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>>375516927
>What else is there to do?
gameplay
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Are there any real /pol/acks getting mad at this game? Zelda has always had flamboyant characters and it portrays a world with different races living in a homogeneous segregated manner.

I mean for fucks sake you play an Aryan hero.
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>>375504332
>>375512762
>hit boss 3 times
>it doesn't die

Shit this is one of the bosses you have to hit 5 times! they're a fun adventure and all but yeah trash games
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>>375517026
shut up, redd*t
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Why do Nintendo fanboys get assblasted when someone didnt like their toy?
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>>375517001
Deus ex
>bloo bloo bloo aged like shit
What the fuck is your point? This has nothing to do with BOTW, stop seeking a different argument, what is there to do in BOTW that isn't farming and grinding shit with no purpose?
>>375517023
All of the gameplay is farm. The closest thing to not farming is walking between places where you're going to farm, thank fucking god this game has a no penalty no effort fast travel system, you can skip all the gameplay and go straight to farming as intended.
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>>375516259
>WHY DONT YOU LIKE WHAT IIII LIKEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>375515274
>relevant endgame
Endgame is irrelevant.
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>>375517005
Oh shut the fuck up, HZD was hyped to the heavens and it failed to deliver stop trying to handicap it, if HZD outsold Zelda they would be saying "Wow I'm surprised the game that just came out on an entirely new system sold less than a game that is on a system everyone has had for 3 years".
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>>375517130
>All of the gameplay is farm
nah, nigger, you don't know what actual grinding is.
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>>375517118
Why do nintendo-haters get so assblasted when Nintendo makes a great game for a change? (It's been too long).
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>>375513776
You sound like a true intellectual anon gosh how could anyone argue with that statement :^)
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>>375517242
>Witcher 3 lite
>Good

lmao
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>>375516927
>What else is there to do?
Playing the game? Exploring the world? Doing sidequests? Chasing memories? It's okay if you don't enjoy the game, but don't spout stupid shit about grinding. And again, how is "farming" dungeons grinding when every shrine is different?
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>>375517149
hey I'm not the one making countless butthurt threads about it, and I'm still pissed after what happened with MGSV.

This place is nothing but idiot manchildren, but hey I guess /v/ was always a shit board anyway
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>>375517194
>you don't know what actual grinding is.
Good argument.
What else is there to do other than repetitive shrines and repetitive seeds? Both of those things are grind.
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>>375517130
I'm not seeking a different argument your sperg, the point is that there is no reason in arguing with you because you just don't like the game nothing's gonna change that, all of the gameplay mechanics you complain about can be found in any other open world game with weapon degradation shit just get over it. Your opinion doesn't matter nor does it invalidate my liking of the game, go play a game you like and stop complaining
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>>375517358
all the combat and progression and exploration, fag.
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>>375517302
>playing the game
So grinding shrines and seeds
>explore the world
For what, shrines and seeds? Or just ugly ass scenery and worthless weapons?
>memories
Purposeless grind at its finest.
>And again, how is "farming" dungeons grinding when every shrine is different?
Saying every shrine is different is a massive exaggeration, it's almost always one of 10 types of shrines with minor variants in where things are placed (sometimes not even that), not to mention they all look the same, they all have the same shitty rewards, and none of those rewards have any purpose in the game.
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>>375517358
>>375517358
>What are side quests
>What are story missions
>What is filling up the compendium
>What is exploring
The game isn't supposed to last forever anon.
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>>375516627
There is no GRINDING in BotW. You clearly don't know the meaning of the word.

Next!
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>>375517541
lol you're so autistic :)
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>>375517358
PLAY THE GAME. There is a main quest in the game, you dumb fuck and its not collecting korok seeds. That's one of the collecting side-activities, a staple of every zelda game ever.
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I want /pol/ to leave
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>>375517184
>was hyped to the heavens and failed to deliver

I feel the same way about BoTW but watch me say that and get torn apart (probably by you) and I was also interested in HZD but ended up going with Zelda because it was a familiar franchise. Now just use your fucking head for a second and imagine all the normalfag Zelda fans that would do the exact same thing.

It's not that hard to realize a new IP competing against a massively worldwide popular one, in the same genre, in the same month of release isn't going to do as good unless it just so happens to be absoulutly blown out of the water incredible which doesnt often happen (and neither of these games were)
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>>375517363
>all of the gameplay mechanics you complain about can be found in any other open world game
Finally we're getting to the root of the problem; all open world games are shit.
Atleast with some open world games you get a few interesting quests with some well written dialog or lore and an interesting final-boss fight. BOTW doesn't have any of that, it's an open world game at it's core, with no thought put past "open world!"
>>375517460
Exploration goes out the window when you get the bird and it becomes a joke, there's nothing worth finding to begin with.
There's zero reason to fight anything in BOTW aside from the divine beasts and final boss.
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>>375517745
>Exploration goes out the window when you get the bird and it becomes a joke, there's nothing worth finding to begin with.There's zero reason to fight anything in BOTW aside from the divine beasts and final boss.

not an argument
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>>375517279
Witcher is completely different, the world is completely boring and empty in terms of exploration but it has way more people, more story and better graphics. I like both a lot but in terms of being open world BotW is way better.

Also Zelda literally has a 97 metascore. You can't call it bad without seeming foolish.
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>>375517541
>Purposeless grind at its finest.
>Find 18 specific spots in the game based on landmarks
>Have to place all your groceries on the conveyor belt at the register
>Have to cook food every day
>Have to click at least ten things to order a book on Amazon
>Have to thrust your penis inside a vagina repeatedly
>UGH WHAT A GRIND

Honestly anon you might be better off killing yourself, life isn't going to get any easier.
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>>375503524
You realize the Zelda frachise started as an open world game, right?
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>>375501978
It's because It's a Nintendo Exclusive.

Sonyfags hate it because they'll never get a game as good as it, ever. Especially when Sony dumped their bootleg Ubisoft game Zero Dark Deep Horizon Oil Accident and the quality of the games were night and day. Also the biggest thing is They act like little children where If they can't have a nice thing, no one can

PCfags will never get a game of this quality specifically made for PC so they have to settle for stealing it via an emulator that is based off stolen code. So all they can do is talk about how they can play an upscaled version that's still full of bugs.
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>>375517639
>>375517649
>>375517657
You guys aren't even stating things to do in the game, it all just comes down to walking around and farming towards no particular goal.
>>375517668
>>375517668
The main quest is a fucking joke and it's only like 2 hours long total, 5 if you're going to get all the beasts.
EVERYTHING ELSE is collectathon bullshit that needs to be grinded out.
>>375517856
>points out how annoying grinding at work and in real life is
>"video games should be exactly like that"
You're retarded, the point of video games is to get away from the rigmarole of the daily grind.
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>>375517965
ya man and every game is just like pressing buttons and shit like damn
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Many keks. Thoroughly enjoying this thread
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>>375518009
Good argument, here's a special star for a special boy trying his hardest.
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BotW is the best Zelda game in fucking years and actually made attempts to finally improve the series past what OoT did on the fucking N64.
Fite me
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>>375518137
The point is that it's attempts all ended in failure, and with the magic power of hindsight 20/20 you should recognize that.
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>>375517965
>it all just comes down to walking around and farming towards no particular goal.

Utter utter horseshit. The game doesn't force anything on the player but it is pretty fucking obvious from the first couple of minutes that finding the sheikah towers is gestured at th player. Then there are the four devine beasts. Then there are the memories to find to unlock the story.

These are the major quests in the game to encourage exploration.
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>>375517726
Or or people just thought HZD wasn't as good as Zelda, period. Just look at reviews.
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>>375518369
Grinding towers and obscure pictures is not what I consider "not grind" anon.
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>>>375517965
>>What are side quests
>>What are story missions
>>What is filling up the compendium
>>What is exploring
>The game isn't supposed to last forever anon.

You aren't even trying anymore
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>>375518478
(you)
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>>375499031
as someone who has put well over 100 hours into the game, the only thing I truly had a big problem is the horse obstacle course. Good god there is no room for error AT ALL there
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>>375517965
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>>375518478
That isn't GRINDING, there is NO grinding whatsoever in BotW. Did you just hear that word and decide to use it constantly?
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>>375518520
>what is COLLECTATHON
>what is the 4 hour long main story
>what is COLLECTATHON
>what is walking around, looking for things to collect
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>>375518635
All of those things are grind, you do them all over and over and over and over again ad-nausium and they serve no purpose other than to kill time.
The first tower isn't grind, the second one is probably grind, what the fuck do you think the 16th tower is going to be? How is that not textbook definition of grind?
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>>375503742
And don't forget it showed who in 'reviews' are strictly motivated by politics, if the current system were around back then, people would intentionally reduce OoT's score for clickbait.
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>>375499031

I want /pol/ to leave.
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>>375518675
>What are all games
Shit dude you just don't like video games
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>>375518675
Are you seriously so desperate to try and find a fault that you're trying to say that the memory quest is a collectathon.

A collectathon is an inconsequential fetch quest which does nothing to alter the satus quo. That's not the case with memory quest, they actaully flesh out the game's mystery and story and even alter the game's ending. They have purpose.

Your opinion is worthless when it's built on bullshit.

What else you got? Try harder.
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>>375518809
Why are you doing this? What do you get out of posting stupid bait on /v/?
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>>375518809
>All of those things are grind, you do them all over and over and over and over again ad-nausium and they serve no purpose other than to kill time.
life is a grind, better kys
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>>375519056
In most video games there's some sort of end-goal to the grind.
That's why I find it very difficult to even call this a video game, considering it's effectively just an open-world grind engine with no purpose to anything that you grind.
>That's not the case with memory quest, they actaully flesh out the game's mystery and story and even alter the game's ending. They have purpose.
How is that any different from just putting a rock there with a lore-dump on it? It's not even grind, it's literally nothingness forced into a purposeless collectathon.
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>>375519241
Life is, but video games shouldn't be, hence why they exist in the first place.
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>>375518809
>How is that not textbook definition of grind?
Every tower is a different challenge. And - get this - they're all entirely optional. Not grinding. Fucking hell.
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>>375519107
>Why are you doing this? What do you get out of posting stupid bait on /v/?

He is right though.
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>>375519420
>Every tower is a different challenge

The real joke is that people think there is any challenge to the towers. Adding some gimmicks like guardians shooting lasers does jackshit.
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>>375519420
>Every tower is a different challenge.
Wow slightly different configurations of rocks? How will my tiny pea-brain possibl- oh wait they're all easy as fuck.
>get this - they're all entirely optional
That's the problem with this game, 95% of the content is "optional," and if you chose that option all you're doing is grinding.
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>>375519305
Jesus fucking christ. The game's story is literally a fucking mystery. You wake up with no memory into a world where something really bad clearly happened. Finding out the story is rewarding to most fucking people. The fact that the memories are fractured and non-linear is by design because the game is so open that Nintendo have no idea what the player will do. I already explained why they have purpose. You just desperately want to find a fault where there is none.
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>>375519640

It's literally just an Ubisoft sandbox game, you climb towers, clear outposts. The only difference are the shrines and the beasts that replace the dungeons in traditional Zelda games.
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>>375499031
I'm just here to join in mocking the OP
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>>375519735
>The game's story is literally a fucking mystery

>wake up
>roam around the map
>find memories
>fight ganon
>save Zelda
>the end

Wow what an amazing mystery.
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>>375499031
It's not a good game, but it's the best Zelda game
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>>375519525
The real joke is that you have no argument.
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>>375519735
Who the fuck cares anon, the world is mysterious because it's meaningless. It'll stop existing the second they burn it to the ground for the next zelda game, as they have done with every previous zelda game.
>>375519785
Don't say that, ubisoft sandbox games tend to have some sort of main story running through the game, where anything you grind might actually contribute towards a final boss fight or something. Once you kill ganon everything after that moment has no purpose, and he's the easiest boss in the game.
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Why did they had to change up zelda btw?
None of the fans wanted this shit.
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>>375519886

Not an argument.
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>>375519874
I noticed that you were unable to argue my point. What a surprise.
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>>375519874
Nigger, the mystery is finding out what happened to Hyrule, and about Zelda shit. It would be a mystery to you if you didn't look up every game before you played it.
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>>375507423
>not knowing how to have fun
Of course you are on a board catering to autists more
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>>375499031
>Is it the worst game ever? No, but it's a 6 or 7/10. This isn't even close to being a good Zelda game.
While a lot of your complaints are pointless nitpicking, this is true. I'd give the game a high 7/10. Maybe 8, it's hard to say because it's so different from classic Zelda games.

I think the biggest reason people are applauding it so much is that for the past 10 years, Zelda games have been in a flux. Twilight Princess was the last traditional game, and then we had shit like the DS games, and the abysmal fuckfest that was Skyward Sword. This feels like an earnest attempt to evolve the series, and not just ram it full of gimmicks, so people are excited for that.
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>>375499031
all this text
all these bad things
you give it a 6 or 7 out of 10
you're a fucking retarded cunt
same kind of child that probably skips the review, comes straight here, and screams OH MY GOD ONLY A 7 I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF
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>>375519983
>the mystery is finding out what happened to Hyrule

They tell you that in the first hours of the game. Hyrule was destroyed by Ganon because he took control of the ancient machines. There is no mystery to uncover.
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>>375519946
Every non-autistic zelda fan wanted a change up, skyward sword was the first zelda game that people actually hated.
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>>375499031
You tried.
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>voiceacting is pointless
All 10 spoken words?

fucking kek
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>>375520154
That was more because of all the backtraking and other lazy shit they pulled like that one worm-like boss you had to kill half a dozen times.
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>>375499031
Literally too dumb to even greentext properly.
Jesus fucking Christ end your life newfag.

Not defending Zelda just so you know.
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>>375520154
Everyone wanted a changeup for the better.
They didn't want oot with all the dungeons removed, hyrule field made 1000x bigger, and filled with shitty farcry 3 content and half-life 2 physics puzzles.
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>>375499031
I just wish they had more than 4 dungeons. Those were actually good. There was a couple good shrines which were long and had combat
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>>375519931

The story in modern Ubisoft sandbox games are awful though. All the grinding you do is usually not worth it aside from a few extra challenges.

In BotW you can play the main story, get the master sword and beat Ganon. That's a mostly coherent story, it isn't great but it makes enough sense.
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>>375499228
I once posted a timestamped pic of the Switch I had, with a copy of the game, and the number of hours I had (roughly 57), and I still had /v/irgins claiming I didn't play the game

Either this is some stale, old bait, or Nintendo-fags are the main cancer that prohibits any type of factual discussion on this board in favor of buzzwords any unfunny memes
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>horizonfags are STILL salty over BoTW

this pleases me
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>>375499031
I agree but try to tell that to the fanboys who can't see wrong in a zelda game, literally impossible.
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>>375520482
I haven't played it but it actually looks fun.
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>>375499031
I disagree with your shit on climbing and simple menus. What, you want a big frilly gold menu? Fuck that.

Everything else I can agree to an extent. Especially the music ones.
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>>375520482

Isn't Horizon more like a MH game?
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>>375520446
Regardless of the writing anon, the writing in both situations is bare-minimum and stupid.
I'm talking about the gameflow
With a ubisoft game you have something like
>story start>grind>story>grind>story>grind>complete story
With botw it's
>story start>story finish>90 hours of grind
The point being you can finish the story with no grind, easily, and yet there's 90 hours worth of grind, not to make the final boss easier (because it's already a joke and odds are you've already beaten the final boss) but just to kill time.
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>>375501978
Like Deus Ex, CSGO, Oblivion and Morrow, MGS, and others, this game is a /v/ favorite. AKA: meme game that gets by because of A) nostalgia, B) dick all for content, but lots of stuff to do, and/or C) "le high skill ceiling" maymay
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>>375499031
Missed your point about the crossdressing.

>gerudo have been strictly women only literally forever
>mad when you gotta get a disguise to get into a gerudo city
Retard.
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>>375520109
Nigger, no it isn't in the memories you find out that Ganon only got power because Zelda wanted to experiment with the Guardians and the Divine beast thus giving Ganon more to take Hyrule with. Not only that but it shows that Zelda herself is jealous of Link because he represents her failures as a sealer.
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>>375499031
>Climbing is a pointless mechanic.
>Stamina is a pointless mechanic.


"Yeah, I will just leave this here. No further explanation, no argument to back up those statements. I guess a big word like 'pointless' should already make my shit opinion fell more professional and thought provoking!"
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>>375520890
>lots of stuff to do

Let me reword that as, "Lots of small, minor things to mess with"
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>>375520154
Which is funny because currently I'm enjoying Skyward Sword more than Twilight Princess and BotW.
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>>375499031
>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...

Well that's just blatantly untrue. Every chick Link meets wants to fuck him. There's a crossdressing section because you have to sneak into an all female society dumbshit.

>Where the fuck is the sound track? Don't tell me you "prefer it without music". If you want that shit, go play Skyrim. This is Zelda. Fucking travesty.

Music plays all the time and is memorable. Sorry you don't have some big orchestrated mess blasting out in the middle of a field.

>Weapon breaking mechanic is blatantly retarded and makes weapons a pointless reward/incentive.

No, the game has a huge variety of different weapons and them breaking keeps you from just getting one good weapon and never using any others. I think you literally are shit at this game. I never have any issues with weapons breaking.

>Traditional dungeons and tool items being removed effectively strips the game of any Zelda identity.

There's four traditional Zelda dungeons in the game.

Everything else you wrote was also retarded but I don't have time to fuck with this shitty post.
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>>375521083
He's not wrong, once you get the bird power you're pretty much going to out-jump anything you could ever climb, making climbing redundant.
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>>375520887
>The point being you can finish the story with no grind, easily, and yet there's 90 hours worth of grind, not to make the final boss easier (because it's already a joke and odds are you've already beaten the final boss) but just to kill time.

Best description of BOTW I've ever read
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>>375520887

Well the idea in Breath of the Wild is that you choose your own path, so most people will choose to slowly progress in the game by completing shrines and dungeons, unlocking the memories and finding secrets.

So the experience of each person is different, and so is the amount of grinding.
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>>375521165
Total bullshit. The super jump is capped, you can only use it 3 times before waiting for it to recharge.

There are fucking tons of mountains where the super jump might help but you still need to climb.
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>>375521250
The problem is no matter what path you take, no matter what you do, all you're accomplishing is collecting what needs to be collected.
It doesn't matter what order, hell it doesn't even matter if you succeed or not, all that matters is that every path is grind.
>>375521457
Most of the time I'd rather wait for the recharge than climb since it takes so god damn long. And the jump can out-climb 2 full bars of stamina no problem in 1/80th the time.
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>>375521053

Kys.
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>>375499031
You sound retarded
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DA GAME IS GAY
EVERY MECHANIC IS USELESS
NOT THE WORST GAME BUT 7/10
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>>375521583

Well some of the grind can be fun, some shrines have interesting puzzles, some combat sections are fun. I do think it's way too repetitive though.
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>>375522001
The problem is at best you can milk 15-20 hours of "good" content out of this game, at which point the rest of it is usually just going to be the exact same stuff you did in the first 15-20 hours.
And even then none of that content is ever amazing, or innovative, or difficult, so how is this game completely impervious to criticism when it's at best 1/5th barely passable "good game" and 4/5ths repetitive shit.
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>>375511024
/v/ isnt a videogame you retarded nigger
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>>375522309

Because Nintendo.

And the open world is very nice, that counts for something I guess.
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>>375521583
>Most of the time I'd rather wait for the recharge than climb since it takes so god damn long. And the jump can out-climb 2 full bars of stamina no problem in 1/80th the time.

Fuck me. You do realise that climbing represents a challenge of its own right? You need to pick a line of ascent to match your stamina level, find points of rest, maybe cook some food before you start. You can also upgrade your climbing gear to make climbing quicker.

Holy shit, did Nintendo really code a game which would encourage exploration for player empowerment and rewarding satisfaction by scaling daunting heights?

Nah fuck it, I'll just cheese with the super jump and then complain.
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Has anyone noticed that all the salty haters can't name a single fault with the game which can't be counter-argued?

Oh deary me.....
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>>375522463
>And the open world is very nice, that counts for something I guess.
As far as I'm concerned everything "open world" is immedietely detrimental to the game's success. Look at MGS5 or FF15 for example.
It starts being a lazy excuse for fitting 50 different mechanics into the game and praying to god atleast 6 of them are fun or useful, but none of them are fleshed out 100% to begin with so who knows.
It gets a little insulting, especially in a physics game where everything is easily abusable because of how little thought they put into it's power an limitations.
> You do realise that climbing represents a challenge of its own right?
no, you can constantly burn food to mass stamina to climb anything in the game. How is that a challenge? It's more of an annoyance.
>did Nintendo really code a game which would encourage exploration for player empowerment and rewarding satisfaction by scaling daunting heights?
No, if they wanted that they shouldn't have added the bird power, it makes most of the climbing and satisfaction from climbing irrelevant.
>Nah fuck it, I'll just cheese with the super jump and then complain.
Don't blame me, blame the devs, I didn't put that shit into the game while designing the game around the opposite of it.
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Posts: 432
IPs: 140

really makes you think
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>>375522794

Any sufficiently autistic person could counter any point made about anything.

That still doesn't change the fact that the weapon degradation system is annoying and pointless.
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>>375522794
There's like 200 good arguments in this thread alone, sorry that you need to cover your ears and eyes every time nintendo gets insulted.
It's probably horizon's fault, or the fault of people who didn't play it, or the fault of people who played it on cemu. Every possibility other than it being nintendo's fault, right?
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>>375522864
Yeah, those assblasted sonybros just can't let it go can they?
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>>375499031
It's a step in the right direction.
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>>375522971
No there's not. It's the same delusional desperate clutching at straws we've been hearing since day one. The game isn't perfect. But the 'complaints' are laughably trite, inconsequential or just completely wrong.
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>>375522947
It's not pointless, without weapon degradation you would never use the master sword, if they just took away the weapon degradation and made the master sword the strongest in the game then you never use any other weapon.
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>>375523361
So you're admitting there's hundreds of complaints that people have been able to easily see since day 1.
At-least that's some sort of progress.
Maybe there is hope for you to grow up and stare at this game through and objective lense.
But not now, not for years, so why even bother. The game is perfect in every way, not a single flaw, climbing towers is a blast, doing the same shrine puzzle over and over again is what we live for, and I'm glad it has no endgame content because that would just distract from the shrines.
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>>375523704
If you think anybody in this thread thinks like this you're autist pal.
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>>375523704

b8
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>>375499031
Cool opinions bro
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>>375523974
Clearly they do, clearly every reviewer does, otherwise this game wouldn't have a 97% on metacritic, and every time objective criticism of the game was mentioned people wouldn't respond with the same bullshit "you didn't play it/ fuck you sonyfag/ cemu isn't REAL nintendo/ GRASPING AT STRAWS" bullshit designed to deflect away from the point of the argument without actually having to allow such evil anti-nintendo thoughts the time of day in your brain.
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>>375505961
>/v/ is sane enough
You literally have ninshito babbies here itt claiming its GOTY
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>>375523704
I said quite clearly that the game is not perfect. You can't please everyone.

But the minor niggles the game has doesn't come close to overshadowing the fact that it's - dare I say it - Game Of The Year.
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>>375524482
>But the minor niggles the game has doesn't come close to overshadowing the fact that it's - dare I say it - Game Of The Year.
That's the problem, you think this substandard piece of shit is game of the year, when I wouldn't even let it pass as game of the month.
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>>375524337
Top kek what will be your method of suicide once BotW wins every fucking award this year? But I guess Nintendo bought those too right?
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>>375524610
>substandard piece of shit

Do you realise how salty you sound?
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>>375524842
>salty
Do you even know what that word means? Because you sure didn't use it like you do.
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>>375499031
fucking this
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>>375499313
It's pretty obvious you never played it bro. Too poor for a switch? So sad.
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>if people like something that I don't, they have shit tastes

Not how it works, bub.
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>>375524242
>STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE
It has a 97% on metacritic because most people like the game alot.
Like in reality you can make an argument for anything however that won't change the fact that most people really enjoy the game, basically what I'm saying is that your opinion doesn't matter because for whatever reason whether explainable or not most people enjoy this game more than whatever game you would.
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>>375499192
ganon fight is the biggest proof of this you can smell the half baked shit since skyward sword mistake
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>>375499031
Some of your reasons are retarded but some are agreeable. The world is big enough to house traditional Zelda dungeons and there were times where I thought the ruins would go in deeper but they don't
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>>375524942
Yeah you're a little upset because Nintendo made a good game and everyone likes it. Cry some more for me.
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>>375525436
That's all well and good anon, I accepted this place and gaming in general have been full of casuals years ago, I just think it's a little insulting towards video games to call this a "good game" when it's not very good, and it's barely even a game.
>>375525582
Why would that upset me? If that was the case I'd play it and enjoy it. Meanwhile the reality is I played it and felt like it was insulting my intelligence the entire time by being so easy and grindy.
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>>375525769
So because YOU had a bad experience, the game must be bad for everyone?

Talk about delusional.
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>>375503524

So what is your thought on 'good' game design then?

You sound like one of those people who would get the same game sequels over and over again then complain at the whatever-th sequel for 'never changing anything'

>Accept different changes in sequels
>Keep playing the same thing in each sequel that just has a 'fresh coat of paint'

PICK ONE
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>>375525769
By the very definition it is a game anon, there is a goal, defeat ganon, literally everything else I optional. Don't try to be objective it doesn't work for retards.
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>>375525923
The game is bad period.
I don't see what "experience" has to do with it, there's only 5 things to do in the game, I don't think I magically missed a massive portion of gameplay involving something innovative and interesting.
>>375526020
I guess you're right, atleast 1/5th of it is a game.
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>>375525769
>it's a little insulting towards video games to call this a "good game" when it's not very good, and it's barely even a game.

Nobody cares. Everyone loves it and it's now officially regarded as one of the greatest games of all time. Cry some more kiddo.
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>>375499031
>>375499445
>>375504420
>>375505975
>>375509513
>>375510758
>>375510869
>>375511053

If you don't immediately notice that every "gay" character in this game is supposed to be a JOKE making fun of gay people you have to be absolutely fucking retarded.

How the fuck is making fun of gay people "sjw pandering" holy shit could you be more delusional???
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>>375526172
> Everyone loves it and it's now officially regarded as one of the greatest games of all time.
That's pretty detrimental to gaming as a whole, but all things considered in 20 years people will be bashing this game because zelda:minecraft came out and everyone think it's the hot new shit and you'll be buttflustered talking about how botw was the one true zelda, so it'll bite you in the ass as hard as it will me, and that's all I can really hope for at this point.
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>>375526239
>best part of the game
>"a joke"
nah fuck off, trap link is atleast fappable, the rest of the game is mediocre and has no worthwhile fappable characters.
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>>375526124
Because everyone has their own experiences.

>only 5 things to do in the game
Yea, no. There's plenty to do and enjoy with the game.
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>>375526529
I agree that everyone has their own experiences, but this is effectively a casual puzzle game with collectathon aspects, so the only thing that matters in terms of experience is are you stupid enough to find any of the puzzles interesting? And do you like grind?
I didn't and don't. So my experiences are tainted.
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He guys it's OP here. Just wanted to say sorry about that. I was just having a bad week and all. After thinking about it, I was pretty harsh.
I did spend 7 hours on the game but I rushed in. I felt like I didn't give it a real chance. I'm going back to buy the game back and try again.
Sorry for wasting your time, anons. Maybe we can play some mario kart.
Also if I come off mean again, that's just a troll.
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>>375526343
>That's pretty detrimental to gaming as a whole
How so? What does it do that will negatively impact the industry? Being able to climb with little to no restrictions is something just about everyone has wanted in these open-ended games instead of characters who can't walk up anything steeper than a 75 degree incline.

>thinking it'll turn into Minecraft
lol, no.
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Why this thread is still up
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>>375523704
hi lee :)
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>>375526739
Some of the puzzles were interesting and inventive, far more than most of the previous games where it was just "see this switch? press it in this very specific way" and maybe a few clever ones. And the game hardly has any grind unless you're too bad at the game and feel the need to upgrade all of your armors just to feel relatively safe.
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>>375526943
>How so? What does it do that will negatively impact the industry?
Most of the game is just made up of shitty "innovative" mechanics from terrible games, not executed any better than the original game. It sets a prescident that a dev can outright just steal mechanics, pawn them off as their own, dumb them down, and people will praise the shit out of it.
In morrowind I could levitate, or jump 50 feet in the air with a spell, why would I want to watch link's trap ass jiggle for minutes at a time?
Climbing is the only innovative thing in this game, it's executed piss poorly, and the it's made irrelevant with a super-jump you can get 2 hours into the game. How is that good design?
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>>375526451

they literally make jokes of him wearing womens clothes in dialogue.

that is a "joke" rather you fap to it or not fucking autist.
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>>375527247
>"see this switch? press it in this very specific way"
That describes every seed puzzle.
The block stacking and hole filling are generic shit ripped right out of half-life 2 and portal, except dumbed down because there's no logical progression so they can't ever build upon anything they've previously established.
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>>375499031
>Voice acting is unbelievably atrocious and entirely unnecessary.

This...is actually true.
Voice acting added nothing to Zelda after all.
At least not the english dub.
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>>375527462
>The block stacking and hole filling are generic shit ripped right out of half-life 2 and portal
Those games didn't invent that shit, dumb-dumb.

And the koroks seeds are not puzzles.
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>>375527284
You really are desperate. You're this assblasted because Nintendo set a new high benchmark for open world design. Every open world game will now be measured against it. You're so deluded that you cannot accept the accomplishments Nintendo made with coding a living breathing world of consequence, where the weather, the climate and the environment are intricately connected. Keep crying. Won't change a thing.
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>>375499031
seven hours what a poseur
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480 posts, so this is how you make a bait thread.. OP just sits back and lets console war faggots do all the arguing for him
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>>375527284
Who cares if some game makers claim they invented shit when they're clearly aping another game? That's irrelevant to the quality of this game being discussed.

And guess what? You can fly around on trees and other objects by abusing the physics system in conjunction with stasis, that's just as fun as making yourself sanic fast in morrowind after chugging several boosting potions. Your dislike of Link's appearance is also irrelevant to the game's quality.
And the climbing hardly that bad. Could have used a permanent boost like the dig claws from older games, but it works just fine for getting up to places for a vantage point or finding a secret. If you're trying to climb an entire mountain from the base up, that's all on you.
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Is BOTW the most shilled game of all time?
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>>375520545
I'm not a Zeldafag, could never get myself to continue playing any of the games. This one won me over though. I enjoy the exploration and nice aesthetic.
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>This game literally panders to homosexuals and women. Aonuma himself stated that this version of Link is intended to be androgynous. Gay characters, a fucking manbun and crossdressing, wow...
3rd point isn't even about the videogame
you managed to make it two fucking points
before getting all /pol/
I have never played this game but I do not trust your criticism based on this.
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>>375499031
I don't get it either OP.

I finally playd it and It's like babby's first action rpg with no story.
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>>375520545
Fanboys do no represent the entirety of the game's playerbase.
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>>375525532
Yeah, the Ganon fight was incredibly half-baked. I expected Hyrule Castle to be a complete fuckfest from the way it looked, but you could just progress at your own pace without being hunted down via Guardians.

Kind of stupid. Had a harder time with A Link Between World's dark world, which is just embarrassing.
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>>375529056
He's just blowing shit out of his ass. The game is no pandering to the SJW boogeyman whatsoever. Link is still the same usual pretty boy as always, no more and no less than the other games. This also isn't the first time we've had "gay" characters in a Zelda title, and the crossdressing is literally played for laughs like the shit in FF7 with Cloud.
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>>375529285
Honest question are you 12 years old?
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>>375529382
I'm 22. Are you 12 years old?
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>>375514652
>He names like 15 criticisms about the game
You mean he listed one legitimate criticism and then just complained about whatever didn't align with his shit taste.
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>>375529473
sad
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>>375529756
I'm not even sure what you're implying here, so yeah, sure.
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>>375499031

:(

I really didn't want to believe this, but it's true.

The game in unbelievably boring. The new food system is so frustrating. Why should I have to go into the menu to regain health?
Weapons breaking is so fucking retarded. You kill 4 enemies and your sword breaks. I don't understand why they would think that's fun. I have to use another shitty item that will only last a few hits.

and the gathering system is annoying as fuck.

to get all the ingredients i have to do pointless walking to 3 areas and sometimes the items aren't even there. you have to wait for the right time.

Fuck I was so excited for the switch, but I HAD TO RETURN IT BECAUSE THE THING WAS SO FUCKING TERRIBLE


This is literally the last straw for video games. There are ZERO GAMES i want to play now.
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>>375530302
Top quality shit post m8.
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I think it was a good enjoyable game

Not the 10/10 masterpiece that people claimed but a good game nonetheless
Seems like people here can't enjoy games anymore
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>>375507087
A man with an argument is at the mercy of a man with experience.
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>>375501978
Contrarianism
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>>375530483
"breath of the wild" is "no man's sky" tier annoying.
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>>375530483
>going into the menu to heal
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>>375510104
You are like a little baby. Watch this:
>Applying Man's Logic to GOD
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>>375530768
Do you dislike every game which has an inventory or did you just struggle to find something about BotW to hate?
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>>375530946
>strawman my argument about in menu healing
>every single zelda game has an inventory

you are shit at arguing
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>>375531257
Here's a notion for you; Nintendo did not want to trivialise health in this game.

If having to go to the inventory to heal yourself is your biggest issue with the game, I guess Aonuma can sleep easy.
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>>375529212
Shame most of BOTW's community are fanboys
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>>375531623
>health in previous zelda games was trivial

have you even played zelda before?

There's a difference between making something more important and making something obnoxious to use.
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>>375531257
So are you if menu healing is a big deal.
Nobody minded it in dragon's dogma, so why is this any different?
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>>375532073
And guess what? It's not obnoxious at all. You go into inventory and eat something to heal, simple as that. Obnoxious mean it either takes forever for Link to do his eating animation and get the heal, or having no sorting option to keep the edible foods separate from the inedible shit.
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