> Undertale has finally hit the bigtime. The hilarious, sometimes moving RPG led one gamer’s concerned parent to call popular Christian news program The 700 Club for advice. They said their daughter was obsessed with a hoodie-wearing skeleton. Rev Robertson urged them to get their daughter into less “evil” video games.
>The concerned parent’s message (in next post)
What the fuck? Is Undertale that much of a bad influence on kids?
>spooky skelletons are just a fad
>if you want them to play wholesome videogames, just look into it & suggest a wholesome game you can both enjoy instead of one with demonic skeletons
There's literally nothing wrong with what this guy said at the beginning. Did people watch this video?
I thought he was very reasonable. It's nice to see someone that people look to answers to say that video games aren't inherently demonic and you can look for games that are pious. He doesn't say to switch her for looking at Satan's content, just to show her a healthy alternative.
>implying that religious fundamentalist aren't the same as ideological hackery like FemFreq
I remember seeing an article early in the year about a spate of teenage suicides on a native reservation in the western US where a couple of girls who killed themselves said they were sacrificing their souls to slenderman.
Though this article qualified it by saying suicide demons were already an element of their nation's folklore.
now it's women with pink hair calling games ableist
did you know the guy who wrote madoka was the same person who made Saya no Uta?
that was a really weird game
I miss fundamentalist Christian parents crying about Pokémon teaching children evolution and black magic.
It was and is a lot funnier than hearing twenty-somethings moan about games being problematic.
>Playing games doesn't make us violent.
>But fuck with us and we'll fuck you up.
>i need to voice my opinion no matter the circumstances
>now that i got my painfully obvious point across in the first 3 panels, i better make a hamfisted moral statement at the end so readers REALLY understand what i meant by this comic!
>How do I help my daughter not be attracted to such demonic things?
:>Give her something better
>Skeletons are demonic
How can you possibly believe this without admitting you are demonic yourself?
I'm not sure why they would let their daughter play video games, let alone have a phone. Everyone knows that computers function thanks to their use of daemons to perform operations, the fact that computers continually grow more powerful is a sign of the growing power of the Devil in the world. Indeed pure satanic energy has been delivered directly into people's homes for over a century now, so I'm not sure why Christians would be throwing a fit about minor stuff like this.
We disclose it on all the products by including codes with 666. Why do they keep complaining about it when some of our stuff happens to be more openly satanic?
I don't see what was so bad about what the old dude said. That was a good response.
Pat Robertson is hilariously ancient and out of touch with the world. He still thinks rock and roll music is the devil and calls black people negroes. I don't even understand how he's still alive, he's senile as fuck and can barely sit up on his own.
But he's right, the game is leading to moral degradation
Not sure about the US but that shit is super common among native youth, especially in isolated communities like up north in the frozen wasteland.
Like I said, probably people just assigning blame to stupid shit that probably would have happened anyways.
>Drawing characters as fat for no reason
Christ fags continue soiling their own religion.
what else is new?
Don't bother, talking sense into /v/ is like talking to a wall. I bet 80% of the posters here are in middle and early high school.
>Down with CIS
THIS IS NOT ROGER ROGER
>furry just being a thing people fap to
If only that were the case. No, it's a mental illness, a disease. If my hypothetical children were *just* fapping to furshit, I would be extremely disappointed with them and would likely grow more distant, but I wouldn't disown them. Sadly, it's never just about faps to furfaggots. It's a lifestyle of being worthless.
>not wanting your hypothetical children to be successful winners instead of autistic, worthless sacks of shit
My best friends parents wouldnt let him even touch pokemon cards because they heard stories of kids getting obsessed with them.
On one hand, you really dont want to throw all that money and emotion down the drain, investing in some ccg (im looking at you mtg)
But on the other, he got bullied because he was the only one who couldnt battle with our group of friends.
Look at this guy.
Literally the spawn of Satan himself.
>Implying the prefix wasn't derived from an existing word
>Implying that isn't exactly how language evolves and new prefixes/suffixes and words are made
I bet you think the dictionary is dictorial and not an attempt to document the way languages are used in modern society.
It's the same unfounded superiority complex that gives fedora tippers their infamous shitty reputation, you are literally no better than a redditor the more you perpetuate this shit.
I'm a Christian and I don't agree with this video game bashing idiocy.
If anything it just gives bad games free marketing. Just let this crap go and preach the word of God. Video games won't bring anyone to hell.
>the big time.
Fucking no one watches the 700 club.
Source: I was in an episode back in 2005. It was one of those flashback "how I came to find jesus" stories. I got to play a methed out biker who got into knife fights when he was younger. They paid me twenty dollars.
one of my moms relatives was like this.
She came over once and brought her sons over and flipped her shit when she saw that we were watching it on tv.
my mom told her to relax and that it taught kids values in friendship or some shit like that and she freaked and never came back over.
You fucking fatfags should burn in hell
At least you'll be useful as fuel
Alright, here's the down-low on skeletons. I know nobody in their right fucking mind will agree with what I'm about to explain but this is exactly the mindset of these people.
The idea is that you're supposed to be buried whole. No cremation. If you die lost a lot of effort will be made to recover your corpse to bury it properly.
The reason why it is so important to be "whole" is because in the end-days when Jesus comes back, he will raise everyone - he can't fucking raise you if you're a pile of bone dust. The idea that there are animated skeletons walking around means they are subverting what Jesus offers in the future. Animated skeletons are a mockery of the Resurrection because Jesus would restore you whole - skeletons are obviously not whole, therefore they are NOT the work of Jesus. Because the Resurrection has not happened, Jesus hasn't come back, and "historically" the only beings who can half-ass attempt a mockery of Jesus's powers stem from the Devil if not the Devil himself.
Remember, it's just fucking fiction to us. But to the crazy batshit religious nutball skeletons walking around are as far from Jesus as you can imagine.
Here's something you have to remember about religious people. They either concern themselves with the concept of Hell or they don't. Those who don't have a generally positive outlook on spirituality and the world. Those who do believe in Hell view things in a completely different light. Where a regular religious person sees fictional skeletons, a crazy one sees actual corruption and damnation and a conduit for the devil.
>only us fellow losers post on 4chan ;)
Much in the same way I wouldn't want them making a fortune off of being crack dealers or professional assassins, yes. At least they'd have interesting stories to tell as the later, I suppose.
Not until this meme ends.
It's been used in chemistry for YEARS.
Oh and here's some etymology for you:
>Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which is an antonym for the Latin-derived prefix trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of".
A lot of denominations have no problems with cremation, ashes to ashes, dust to dust and all that.
I think the problem here is that these Christians believe in bodily resurrection with Jesus raising people fully, with animated skeletons, and such being seen as a demonic mockery.
The real question is, why do they have so little fucking faith in their all-powerful God, and think he's incapable of resurrecting you however he feels like? If he's omnipotent he could pop a boil off his back and remake you out of the damned pus, so what's it actually matter for?
>people like this exist
>they cannot realize how shitty they are making the lives of their kids
>The people who think cis isn't a legit prefix can't even spell tumblr correctly
>They are also the same people shouting down any opposition with "meme x" labels
This is almost too good to be true.
>Skeletons are demonic
I have some bad news. There might be a skeleton closer to you than you think.
My mother STILL has a weird complex about certain games being evil/satanic, and I'm 28. Like I remember telling her about a horror game I was playing last year I think it was, and she said something like "Don't play that in our house, you're inviting bad things to happen".
I am not generalizing. That's exactly the dividing line when it comes to Christianity. Depending on your denomination either you concern yourself with damnation or you don't and how strong your belief is in the "details" of the Resurrection.
Some Christians are totally fine with cremation. No problem there. They're probably totally fine with skeletons.
Some however, aren't. Completely an affront to everything they believe in. Because they believe very strongly in damnation.
Consider Halloween. Someone puts a skeleton in their yard. A fairly reasonable Christian who believes that God loves everyone sees a decoration. A fairly reasonable Christian with a belief in Hell sees a symbol of the Devil and therefore an actual totem that leads to damnation. Imagine a portal to Hell in fiction. I don't fucking know, let's say from Doom - not the greatest right? A Christian who consciously concerns themselves with damnation actually sees the portal to Hell from Doom in a lawn skeleton.
Christians do have lots of faith in their all powerful God, it's just that in order to be considered for resurrection, Christians have to live up to God's improbably high standards. He doesn't care for the non-believers and the believers have to be really spiritual, or do something real crazy to impress him.
Yeah guys, these things are just a fad.
Post the gif where she's a soft-serve machine shitting in a waffle cone
the prefix is real, but the meaning they put behind it is a meme, just like with "Trans-misogyny". "trans" is a legit prefix, "misogyny" is a legit word, but then they combine the two for their meme lifestyle so they can feel special
>the gif where she's a soft-serve machine shitting in a waffle cone
It's relative obviously, it doesn't exempt them from kindness or charity. They are still people and doesn't necessarily means they're batshit insane. It's just that that one little aspect makes them view some aspects of life through a completely batshit insane lens.
The truly batshit insane see damnation in everything. Shit, to those people, talking dogs in cartoons is probably Satan trying to corrupt their children.
>misogyny is not a real word
what the fuck am I reading
I thought Undertale had a lot of Christian undertones?
Here. Don't post that shit ever again.
They're not stupid, they're just involved in a really complicated LARP that they take very seriously.
There's a ton of rules in the source book, and lots of different editions of the rules.
>It's not copy-pasted verbatim, it takes on entirely different meaning!!!!
You can't be serious.
>Things with glowing/flashing eyes aren't demonic
undertale is one of the most 'disney presents' games I've ever seen what the fuck do these people think they're even trying to say
How were they crazy in the slightest?
The old dude suggested the parent just let fads pass, and if they really have a problem try to suggest something wholesome instead.
The parent is just that, a parent. That obviously never played the game, so they're just basing it on what they can see.
My parents were like that, though they were relatively intelligent and didn't fall for the sensationalist bullshit.
>not allowed to watch Power Rangers because of Rita being a witch
>not allowed to watch TMNT because ???? I still don't know
>but allowed to watch Thundercats and He-Man despite Skeletor and Mumm-ra
>allowed to watch/play Pokemon, and even convinced several other Christian families that Pokemon was okay, that they watched it with us and there's no way creatures like Jigglypuff and Pikachu were demonic
What killed me were the video game restrictions. No Nintendo Months were the bane of my childhood.
>even this old man knows that Undertale is a meme game
Good thing the daughter wasn't into books. This geezer would get a heart attack realizing this guy exists in media.
There tarots are fucking great, might dump
>Boo hoo my kid likes this satanic game.
Oh please. Call back when your autistic daughter actually stabs someone over a better meme game.
but they do anon, they do
>I'm so stupid I don't understand etymology and can't look up stuff for myself
Sure are convincing me with them hot facts, anon.
>inb4 all of these selfrighteous fucks skate incredibly close to laughing at people who think video games cause satanism/violence/misogyny
Chara has open eyes, rosy cheeks, and a green shirt, see >>315348024
>Jesus can resurrect the dead
>skeletons are dead
>therefore, Jesus made skeletons
This Pat guy needs to read his bible more
My parents controlled my video game consumption with no-nintendo days, weeks, and months. The name stuck because when it first started, we only had Nintendo consoles (around the SNES era)
They came in No Nintendo Days, where no video games were allowed at all for the entire day, Weeks, where they were disallowed all day every day except Saturday, and sometimes we would get a 1/2 hour each, and then Months, where there were absolutely no games any day of the week.
Usually every other week would be a no nintendo week, with some months (especially September due to the start of school, which was true hell because that's when my birthday is) being no nintendo months.
They were for the most part completely arbitrary, and continued until I was around 12.
Just finished a no mercy run,
> Sans whining about why I killed his brother if I knew there was an alternative
> Calls to bitch me out about how there's no one left to rule the remaining monster's but says he's not going to do it
> Could have stopped all of this by shoving my shit in, but chose not to
Should have told your daughter to have less shit taste.
>There's gotta be some video game that isn't so evil. Those things are filled with violence and brutality... it's unreal!
I know it's stupid to expect Pat Robertson to know about Undertale, but still.
The fact that people who are this much less intelligent than their own spawn are allowed to raise children disgusts me.
>not using tarot names
if it's a themed deck, you apply the characters or situations that best fit the major arcana
this is just Undertale collectible cards
>Undertale will be banned during my lifetime
>Undertale fags will be neutered and sent to prison for having this devil game
Thank you, God.
It's less romantic when you consider that it's a relationship based around dependency for both sides. Saya was the only thing keeping Fuminori from going completely insane and either killing himself or as many people around him as he could, and Fuminori was the only one who would support Saya's goals to transform the planet.
Of course Fuminori ended up rather insane in the end anyway, but through a less immediately dangerous path.
>implying I put the name on the cards
>Doesn't fit for The Emperor
>Doesn't fit for The Star
You're joking right
Just because it doesn't state the classification of card doesn't mean it's not tarot. It still have the roman numeral.
Despit e being very Christian my Mom and Dad never banned me from anything, it was kinda funny though a couple years ago my mom left my brother with one of her friends so she could babysit him and she got bothered that his Pikachu toy was "demonic"
The funny thing is the fat bitch was a single mom and dirt fucking poor because of shitty life decisions.
The amount of Undertale scat porn is harrowing.
Exactly, you'd get off your butt and do something about it. Instead Sans let's me murder everyone I come across and then calls me up on the phone to tell me to go to hell like a passive aggressive bitch. I might go back and spare everyone except for Papyrus just to spite him.
>The 700 Club
I think the thing that surprises me most about this is that this still exists. Why the hell is this show still around? And I'm not even against religious shows or anything, but even some devout Catholics think this show is shit.
Part of an ARG made by Toby I think. THere are "Fun" values in the games config files and having certain values matching certain flags ingame causes strange things to happen.
Look up W. D. Gaster on google, you'll find some videos explaining it better.
>cis did not mean what it means now
It's always meant the antonym of trans-
There's no reason why gender should be excluded
>Demean normal people
It doesn't at all, though. Maybe you shouldn't be so sensitive and easily offended, anon.
>Not monitoring your child's internet use
I wouldn't ever want my son to be "redpilled" by shitholes like this
if I had one.
>mfw I actually, unironically do
What are you going to do about it, fag?
Lets learn more about Pat Robertson!
> Men with “rebellious” wives should live where wife-beating is legal. When a caller complained that his wife insults him and once raised a hand to him, Robertson lamented the end of legal wife-beating. “I don’t think we condone wife-beating these days but something has got to be done,” he whined. After characterizing the wife as someone who “does not understand authority,” he “jokingly” recommended that the husband move to Saudi Arabia, so that he can legally batter her.
>God punishes people for having too much education. When a viewer asked Robertson why there are more “miracles” in Africa than in the U.S.--mind you, no statistics were offered to support this contention--Robertson blamed the supposed overeducation of Americans. “People overseas didn't go to Ivy League schools,” he chuckled, unaware that 20% of Harvard’s students come from outside the U.S. He went on to blame “skepticism and science” for God’s miracle reticence, saying, “We are so sophisticated, we think we've got everything figured out. We know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that says God isn't real, we know about all this stuff.”
As to why God would allow a 3 Year old child to die
>As far as God’s concerned, He knows the end from the beginning, and He sees a little baby, and that little baby could grow up to be Adolf Hitler, he could grow up to be Joseph Stalin, he could grow up to be some serial killer, or he could grow up to die of a hideous disease. God sees all of that, and for that life to be terminated while he’s a baby, he’s going to be with God forever in Heaven so it isn’t a bad thing.
Me and my older brother basically said that we were old enough to control ourselves and we should be allowed to play video games as much as we wanted as long as we did our homework and kept our grades up.
Miraculously, they agreed.
and look where I ended up.
skin of his teeth
What did the woman sitting next to him say about that first thing? I'm assuming that's his wife.
>There are more miracles in Africa than in the US
How does one even come to this conclusion
>that last one
I hope he said that to someone mourning their own child. That's fucking hilarious.
My dad is actually the reason I started playing vidya.
He stopped playing a long time ago. years ago he wanted to join us playing Halo 2 and it was a little depressing seeing him try to fumble through using two control sticks to play.
>not purging all the worthless furfaggot degenerates in the underground
>getting the bad ending
>Rev Robertson urged them to get their daughter into less “evil” video games.
The irony is quite palpable considering the material being talked about.
I'd be very interested if 700 club watched the first hour of undertale, since no matter which route you go the game brow beats you in muh morality.
Anyway the parents will just have to accept the fact their daughter might have mild autism.
That's Christianity for you. I wasn't allowed to read Harry Potter as a kid because of witchcraft. My mom didn't let me watch Spirited Away because she thought it looked demonic, but then one Christmas my Japanese aunt bought it for me and my mom pretended not to care because she didn't want to be rude.
No, you're the one too stupid to realize the point of the post you quoted was about the value of providing proof along with making an affirmative statement of fact, you dense shithead.
>No option to purge the monsters for the glory of the imperium
>You can only kill absolutely everything like an edgy faggot chaos worshipper
I take that back, even chaos worshippers aren't that edgy
>backpedaling because you're fucking illiterate
but no, go aheadpost more reaction images and maybe you can regain some of your credibility
you stupid shit
hey buddy, I fap to furry porn, earn an average wage. regularly play videogames and have threesomes with my girlfriend+1 every week
if we're talking about "lifestyles of being worthless" then how's shitposting on 4chan working out for you
>kill all the monsters and the playing world, which just consists of monsters
>don't give your soul to chaos
>the Imperium is safe from the perils of the underground and soul-stealing monsters forever
I bet you got the "pacifist" ending where you consort with the mutant and the xenos and give them a passageway to the human world, heretic.
He's not. He has one attack and one defense. All of his attacks do one damage no matter what. He just knows how to somehow not let you have any invincibility frames.
He goes for skill and landing lots of hits and making it hard to dodge.
And that poison stuff? That's not him. That stands for karma. "You feel your sins crawling on your back." The world wants you fucking dead, because you are turning into a legitimate threat to it's existence.
>something is evident by looking
Yet you did not post the actual evidence that one would need to look at to get to the truth of the matter. The original statement in question is if the fan art reflected the orignal art, and the evidence needed to prove or disprove that statement would be the original game sprites as posted by the "good" poster.
So again, you are shit and post like it.
>the Imperium is safe from the perils of the underground
You bought the lies of the Primordial Annihilator?
The galaxy belongs to the Emperor but we cannot rule it if Chaos is allowed to consume it
It is better to let one xenos go unpunished if it means sparing the entire Imperium.
no respect for the only character i could relate with
Yeah sure. Except it's very easy to die to him many times. Am I supposed to assume Sans is the first monster with power like that? There had to be monsters that could just spam tons of attacks at once and also dodge. A monster of Undyne's strength could also easily take out some humans.
Actually it is very much like "Diarrhea", a word that stems from latinate usage of greek terms for medical purposes, like much of the English medical literature. The cis- prefix is derived from latin, and is used in even elementary chemistry courses.
Anyway, thanks OP, for reminding me of being upset about video game coverage in the christian media in 2006. It was nice to agree with 4chan back then instead.
>Pat Robinson hits a home run once and a while
No, FUCK YOU
Don't even joke about shit like this, the man is a "faith healing" scumfuck huckster and is not worthy of a single positive word.
>How were they crazy in the slightest?
The mother is crazy for thinking a cartoon skeleton is an agent of satan, and he's crazy for thinking she has a reasonable, if not justified, fear.
You're assuming every one who has ever played the game would have a photographic memory of every single enemy sprite, down to the most tiny obscure pixels on it.
Congratulations on your legitimate autism.
>he destroys the entire universe even if you dont give your soul to him
>but humanity somehow survived, guys
>"My child is interested in something I don't support"
>"Let them have their interests, but introduce them to things you think are good and enjoy them together"
There is literally nothing wrong with this advice.
Stop pretending you haven't already looked at it enough times to even come to the conclusion those were hands. And learn to not disproportionately flip out whenever someone says you're wrong. I hope you'll learn from this experience. I believe you can be a better person.
>The girls have been charged with attempted first-degree intentional homicide. They have been set to be tried as adults because in Wisconsin, "all murder and attempted-murder charges for children older than 10 start in adult court."
>A conviction on first-degree charges in adult court could result in a sentence of up to 65 years in state prison, whereas a conviction in juvenile court could send them "to a secure facility until age 25."
Oh fucking wow, I'm not against or for the pentalty or anything but damn son if they get convicted on first degree, there goes their entire life, even if they get out on parole.
>Christians believe in an eye for an eye,
>38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; 40 and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; 41 and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile. 42 Give to everyone who begs from you, and do not refuse anyone who wants to borrow from you.
The implication is that Chara annihilates everything in the timeline and then hops to another one.
That's why you have to give him your soul to bring it back, otherwise you're stuck at a black screen.
If you only killed everything in the underground nothing would be stopping the player from just passing through the barrier and going home.
Sans is clearly different dude.
He KNOWS about your time travel bullshit. He can't do it himself, but he knows something is up, and he can cold call well enough to guess how many times he's killed you.
Also he has a broken time machine is his fucking secret room.
He's not particularly strong, but he's also not an idiot. He opens with his best attack, doesn't let you hit him, and he knows his only chance isn't to defeat you, but to make you give up. So he's making it as frustrating for you as possible.
And he just fucking HATES you for killing Papyrus, Toriel, and lots of other people he likes.
The main problem here is that these people don't know the first thing about video games. If they did, they wouldn't take issue and focus instead on Grand Theft Auto or something.
That's not what backpedaling means at all.
You don't even understand terms that are decades old, I don't think you are qualified to claim if a new word is "invalid" or not.
You know, despite that going against everything that involves how a language functions.
But continue to get triggered whenever someone says cis. You totally aren't fighting a losing battle or anything.
The only thing I see wrong here is that the kid's parents can't figure out how to handle something like this themselves, let alone understand it. If the kid is a kid, the parents likely aren't very old, they're easily from a generation that played video games - more than likely they were born in the 80s, this shouldn't be foreign territory.
Even if it is, it's as easy as sitting down and playing through the game themselves to get a grasp on it.
That they jump right to asking hardcore Christians what do about their daughter having a picture of a cartoon skeleton on their phone says something is a little wonky in her parent's heads.
>If a guy wants to fuck your wife don't stop him, let him fuck your daughter as well!
I hope you learn to offer evidence when attempting to making statements of fact, which was the point of the over the top response in the first place, shown in the stark contrast between politeness and rudeness between the two replies.
I know you fucking wont, because you're a shit somehow lodged up its own ass.