/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

this nigga david lynch out here playing 4d chess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db9to1uazmU

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Twin Peaks: The Return is shit and you know it. Additionally, there will soon be a pasta proving there are a lot of things really wrong with it. Professional reviews of the entire series will follow.

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friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

Post rare Kyles please

Boil down the season to 9 episodes like it was originally announced as. RIGHT NOW.

>>87416163
Look at this guy and how mad he is. Just look at him.

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Is it future? Or is it past?

>>87416163
based

>>87416163
t. roger ebert

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>>87416124
Everyones trying to figure out the finale but im just wanting more dougie

>>87416124
>same shit being posted over and over again
so true, to be honest desu

>>87416165
why was he so desperate to not go back? he looks pretty comfy

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>>87416169

Has anyone made a comprehensive video explaining what happened like has been done for Mulholland Drive & other confusing works?

>>87416191
lmao, nice find.

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>"If I disappear, come find me."

Can Gordon find Cooper again? Will he be saved?

I need to believe ;_;

>>87416084
>A police detective falls in love with the woman whose murder he is investigating.'
Yes, that's what's so tragic about the ending to The Return. Coop wasted the prime of his life by pursuing the Laura Palmer case beyond it's natural conclusion, and then when he's finally free instead of moving on and going to live with his loving family he sends a shell of himself to go live his life for him while he dives right back into the Laura case, this time displacing himself for good.

>>87416191
Who even cares about most of this shit? Who gives a shit about Leo, Nadine, Ed and all the other irrelevant side stories.

>>87416208
I mean, your ass starts to hurt after a while if you sit too long and it didn't seem like he was getting up any time soon.

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>>87416205
dougie=best cooper

>>87416216
That's very rare, thank you my friend

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>>87416191
>What about Ghostwood?
literally who gives a shit

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>>87416191
>lets have a lynch-ing

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>>87416135

I know right

cooper's identity fragments in a non-physical space that occupies a physical s

>>87416233
He has a big ass

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>>87416286
Veddermind

>>87416286
>>87416284
Veddermind

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what do anons use for a good free vpn? i'm getting too many ISP notifications.

post best girl, too, of course

If anyone still doesn't get the ending:

Palmer house - Judy
Sarah - Jumping Man
Leland - BOB
Lights going out in Palmer house - Judy getting BTFO

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>>87416334
Veddermindmind

VEDDER
L I V E S

>>87416322
>>87416334
Veddermindmind

if the arm is the evil part of Mike why did it also help Cooper in all 3 seasons?

>>87416341
>free vpn

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>>87416322
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>>87416191
For a second there I thought this was about the season 3 finale, nothing's really changed lol

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I don't understand all the people saying the finale retroactively ruined the entire series. Is your whole existence invalidated by the fact that you're eventually going to die? Just enjoy it as series of entertaining vignettes and focus on how they make you feel, the big picture doesn't matter. If you truly didn't enjoy the experience of the 16 preceding parts and all the shitposting they birthed I'm not sure why you watched up until the end anyway

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>>87416233
>you will never _____ Cooper's big ass

>>87416379
i guess there aren't any good free ones then...

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>>87416283
no problem, friend

>>87416355
cooper lost. deal with happy ending-fag.
life is shit, there are no happy endings.

>>87416261
Holy shit, I get it now.

>>87416163
There are already a lot of professional reviews to choose from you retard

>>87416461
Well, at least he's out of the black lodge, that's for certain.

>>87414293
what was the point of this character. soley a red herring?

>>87416421
>tfw columbine's greatest victim was the trenchcoat

>>87416461
Explain your interpretation. My interpretation makes sense and feels right to me, but it doesn't mean anyone else's is invalid.

>>87416485
>I'm a brainlet but calling people retarded will make me look smart

>>87416290
Fuck Lynch

>>87416499
No, he fulfilled his purpose of reminding you to study your hand every once in a while.
And cucking bobe.

>>87416461
you are wrong shitposter

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>>87416205
ITT: COSMIC Failures

>>87416163
based hawk hater

>>87416499
I'm still going with the theory that he was Chalfont's grandson, he was a cool character either way and I'm sad that we didn't get to see more of him.

>>87416279
unironically true though desu.

if dougie was in the finale he would have figured out how to stop judy.

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>>87416587
explain this expression then, nerd.

David Lynch is a hack.

>>87416593
meme

The only aspect of the finale I want to clearly understand is where they went after those 430 miles. A different timeline, a different dimension, a "dark side" of reality. The electricity implies some red room shenanigans.

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>>87416593
CUTE cosmic failure tho

Fucking retards who do not understand Lynch's take on memory, identity and desire and instead want to get spoonfed about lore.

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>>87416649
Why does Lynch hate him so much?

I really want to rewatch the Entire Mystery BR but I only have a 720p TV here (86cm, 32inches), I think it's kind of plebeian to watch it this way...

I have a 24' 1080p PC monitor, I plugged my PS3 to it but no sound and I don't have the cables to plug it into my speaker phones... they don't even have a jack outpout anyway.

It's really annoying that I have to download these in 1080p when I actually own the BR. Will a good torrent version of the episodes will be of lesser quality than the BR on my 24' monitor ? It's kino we're talking about so I'm taking everything into consideration.

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Remember me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO934i9uO1c

>all these Z-listers encouraging fans to hold Showtime hostage because they didn't want to overpay Lynch millions and millions of dollars that he was requesting to direct
>The Return is how he repaid them

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*breathes in*

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

oh yeah

I just realized that the youtube channel is "Tamara Preston", which is the name of Chrystal Bell's character in the show. It's no doubt that this "Tamara Preston" organized all of these actors and actresses to release the video.

The same Chrysta Bell who has been sucking Lynch's dick just for a tiny chance at fame and success since 1999 despite only really getting work when he is the one in charge of the product (the song or acting job)

DAVID LYNCH IS SUCH A FUCKING HACK

HE LITERALLY ONLY CARES ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT

AND REMINDER HE SHILLS HIS MEDITATION COURSE TO NORMAL PEOPLE, WHICH COSTS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST TO JOIN

THIS MAN IS AN ENEMY AND ANTITHESIS TO TRUE AUTEURS AND NETWORKS EVERYWHERE

Original series: Great, original ideas and magnificent implementation.
The Return: Shit, unoriginal ideas and shit implementation.

>>87416635
thats not an expression. thats just kyles face. he always looks that way.

>>87416733
imagine being this mad lol

>>87416733
haha lynched

I just wanted all of you to know I love you guys. It's been so long since I've had anything in common with anyone, even if it's just Twin Peaks.

I know these threads will fade away within a couple weeks so I wanted you all to know I've enjoyed sharing shitty hypotheses and spitballing about how we all got Lynched with all of you.

I'll see you at the curtain call.

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>>87416693
the cuter they are the more they must suffer

>>87416733
MJA GTFO

>>87416733
>Remember me?
No.

lynch has become the new george lucas

>>87416733
and the fact that Chrysta, being Lynch's right hand woman, was probably one of the only people who knew that "Tamara Preston" was even a character in the show and tried to hide her identity with the moniker but was stupid enough to use her own character's name as it.

Lynch telling her to do this just shows how fucking petulant and greedy he is.

>>87416496
He's out of one lodge and likely into another (lights blowing out in the house, the question he asks at the end, etc.) .

We were led to believe that Cooper was the one guy capable of understanding all the things going on, only for the rug to be pulled out from underneath us at the end. In the end, most of the meanings/theories derived by the fanbase are bullshit, just like many derived by Cooper in the show. The ending revealed that Cooper never had any idea of what was going on (except for Bob and a few other situations).

Cooper failed miserably as soon as he stepped into the lodge during season 2. He has been damned ever since to try chasing after Laura Palmer, fail saving her, and continue on with his miserable crusade because of who he is, in spite of how damned the situation is.

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OC. h8/r8

>>87416355
You're fucking retarded.

Judy was the car that tailed Coop preventing him from crossing back over into his dimension.

>>87416733
holy shit

as if i didn't hate chrysta enough with her horrible acting job

The only way to properly judge the show is to know what it's actually about.
So someone needs to break into Lynch's house and beg for answers, fuck this muh artistic ambiguity shit, WE NEED CONCRETE ANSWERS, I KNOW THIS SHOW HAS THEM REEEEEEEEEE

I don't really get why Cooper wanted to save Laura from that specific point in her life. She was ready to die, and she was better off dead from all the physical and mental abuse she suffered.

FWWM kind of suggested that Cooper may be able to save her because the red room exists outside of time, so I had always thought maybe he would stop BOB from the beginning.

I still don't understand how taking away from the point before her death saved her when BOB was going to kill her because he thought he knew his true face. And because she got seperated from Cooper before he could lead her to safety.

I liked the ending but I was kind of disappointed that we didn't see anything about Cooper's mental state. I definitely didn't expect him to be acting his normal self, which he was, and I can't tell if that means that time passed by quickly for him in the red room or not.

You would think he would have had all the time to think about saving Laura and the repercussions.

>>87416892
shitposter

>>87416895
ahahaha
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>>87416124
Someone was asking for this pic in the last thread.

>IT WAS ALL A DREAM

BRAVO LYNCH

>>87416925
FUCK YOU GREEDY CUNT, SPOONFEED ME, DON'T DO THIS TO ME REEEEEEEEEE

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>>87416322
Vedderchecked that Veddermind

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Lynch is a hack.

A HACK!

>>87416635
She whispers "My father killed me."

The original, undoable tragedy. Cooper can save other people in the present, and can make lives better, but he can never erase evil in the world. That's why he is unhappy, and why we should be unhappy too. All the same, Cooper saved lives and improved other peoples' lives, so what he did was not all in vain.

The whole point of the season was showing how people can change for the better (fix their hearts or die). To dwell in the pessimism is only showing a narrow and limited view of life - the stuff that separates the Lauras of the world from the Sarahs/Lelands.

>>87416964
Or was it? xD

Vedderposters are 100% correct

so is laura in red room the good judy because she has whiteness behind her face? i dont get it

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>>87417017
Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder's Out of Sand proved Vedderposters right. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

>>87416866
>ontinue on with his miserable crusade because of who he is
the miserable crusade of... making peoples' lives better with kindness and understanding? You sound like a jaded and miserable person.

If he's damned, he's damned because he will always fling himself into a situation to try and totally stop evil. he gets close but never completely finishes the job, because you can't totally eradicate evil from this world. I think this is partially the secret that Laura whispers into his ear, on a metaphorical level.

>>87416596
stop Judy

this general gets dumber and dumber. you faggots with your pet theories twisting shit to fit them. fucking idiots

why not just manufacture a new Laura using a seed

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>still no Afterbuzz or What The Flick on the finale
How BTFO are they?

>>87417126
This, I haven't seen anything remotely worth investigating.

>>87417102
>>/co/

>>87417126
These generals were always shit with terrible forced memes and now everyone has their own retarded theory to spoonfed the morons who couldn't come up with their own.

>>87417163
Blame lynch and frost for having some faith in the decency of people, and displaying that faith on the screen. Not me.

>>87417206
exactly!!!! thank you anon

So which ending fucked you up more, s2's ending or s3?

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What year is it?

>>87417232
S2 for sure, after that boring mess that was the second half of the season.

>>87416191
all of these questions about shit that literally doesn't matter

>>87416854
>people can't change their YouTube names

>>87417232
s2

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>>87416376
All MIKE and the arm care about is getting BOB back into the lodge, so they can get back all the garmonbozia he stole from them. They are only helping Coop as a way to achive their own goal.

/tpg/ after the finale is theoryfags fighting angry brainlets


I wish to see you again, my /tpg/ friends.

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such a sadness when people don't read the whole post

>>87417289
That anon who said /tpg/ was going to be sent to the black lodge after the finale was right.

>>87417232
S2. I was open to pretty much everything with S3, so while I was pretty shocked it took me less time to realize that it was a great finale.

>>87417289
It's yrev very good to see you again old friend

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>>87416191
someone got paid to write this

>>87417288
he didn't steal from them he just didn't share with them

>>87417102
Terrible and jaded? Huh? That's what the fucking ending was numb nuts.

Cooper thought there was a meaning behind it all in the end (just like the people who sit around trying to draw a concrete meaning from metaphysical concepts/principles that are inconsistent and don't make any sense), the fact that he expected to find Laura in the diner, going to her house expecting her to remember him, going to her mother's house expecting to find her mother and save the day, etc.

The ending revealed that nothing went right in his plan, and that he had no idea what he was doing the entire time. He is likely still stuck in some warped/twisted reality, likely inside another lodge with completely different rules/principles, while abandoning his world that had become a better place/stable. Cooper is what happens when you're arrogant and overly optimistic.

Cooper's life is one of personal suffering, but I guess because everyone else is happy then that's okay right?

>>87416261
this

>>87417333
I feel like every single show in existence is like this, I think I'll just stick to films from now on.

>>87417288
An alternative view is that they transcended the need for garmonbozia (explaining the arm's evolution) and just tried to help Cooper kill BOB to spite him.

>>87417232
I didn't know how season 2 would end since I went in blind, but I did know it got cancelled so the ending didn't shock me as much. I appreciated how much it inspired people though, even if it was a short series with a shitty second season (after Leland's death ofc).

Every episode of season 3 was unexpected and I knew all of my theories would turn out to be wrong, but seeing it end the way it did still shocked the fuck outta me. Don't get me wrong, they're both good endings and they stick with you a lot, but I felt the mood for season 3's ending was much more moody and reflected a creator who knew how he wanted to finish the story (instead of being forced to finish it because no more episodes would be made).

>>87417232
Season 2 easily. 3 is more ambiguous where as 2 has evil cooper winning.

>>87417333
Except there is a conclusion. Your gif should be truck crashing, the driver leaving the cabin, enterinh another truck and driving in a direction of much bigger obstacle.

>>87417358

>Who was responsible for the glass box in NYC

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCKING HELL

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this sums up my feelings completely

>>87417494
>Mr. C

>>87417494
>getting this lynched

>>87417494
Nice blog faggot

>>87417358
>>87417479
Mr. C, it was heavily implied in the "this is really something" scene.

>>87417494
>I think time has come to start winding down my presence on this board.
Oh, alright. Now fuck off.

>>87417494
Sounds like how I would describe a great piece of art.

>>87417178
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>>87417494
Hahaha
LYNCHED
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>>87417333
To add to the metaphor, doing my research and finding the original source of that gif, and then finding the video to give it meaning, was well worth it.

>>87417494
>T. likedthejamesoutsidetwinpeaksscenes

>>87417313
?

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what did she mean by this?

>>87417365
>Cooper's life is one of personal suffering, but I guess because everyone else is happy then that's okay right?
Man you sound bitter. This is a theme that is touched on in Fire Walk with Me, but with Laura. Her suffering was real and acutely felt. But it wasn't all for nothing, because not only did she protect others (both physically and metaphysically), but she in a sense "transcended" or redeemed herself in the end and saw a bigger purpose. Did you watch the movie? Or maybe you just don't have a sense of the world outside of yourself? That's not to be accusatory. A main theme of this season was becoming aware of the world around you and "waking up" to your true self or potential. This is combined with moving beyond the past. It's ultimately a season about growth, but growth can be both happy and sad.

>>87417551

I know that's why I got pissed off when I seen the article

Can someone post the off screen crimes of Mr. C?

In the credits, why is she called The Experiment? Was she made by people intentionally?

>>87417358

sepinwall is literally the most normie-core reviewer there is

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Brainlets will forever be locked at Sneed's, oblivious to the kino of Chuck's season 3.

>>87416994

>Rene Magritte bastardizing Fantomas

I think we all know who the real hack is here

>>87416124
never leave me /tpg/

these threads were better when it was 90% vedderposting

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MILF
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>>87417819
That store used to be owned by some other guy, wasn't it?

>>87416290
This, this shit right here.
This makes me genuinely believe that everything in season 3 has a purpose, everything has a reason to exist and it's all one big puzzle waiting to be resolved. Don't give up on those theories, anons. Deep down, I know Lynch isn't a hack.

>>87417857
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".

>>87417288
Nigga the black lodge teamed up with the white lodge to explode BOB forever. Fireman gave him the glove and dumped him there.

T H E
H O U S E
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J U D Y

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We live inside a meme

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I'm not saying you're damn pronouns

>>87417908
Huh? That doesn't make sense.

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O H
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J E F F R I E S

>>87417928
LAURA'S PICTURE IS JUDY

>>87417930
I still can't believe Judy was directly related to the final scenes of the show. Pure unfiltered meme magic.

>all these posters complaining about the amount of Reddit theories shared in /tpg/
It's an undeniably ambiguous conclusion, but ffs it's supposed to be a mystery, part of the fun is weighing up different interpretations and explanations. All theories will be leaky in some way or another because Lynch's sense of plot and narrative coherence is terrible, but that doesn't mean we can't tinker with our own understanding of it.

>>87417936
Stop posting Andy

>>87417365

projecting

I have a few nitpicks with the Return, but overall thought it was amazing. It's like nothing else I've ever seen, and the ending is just haunting.
>What year is it?

>>87416420
I watch TV for connected, continuing narratives, not vignettes

>>87418104
2017

>>87417767
Was that in the glass box episode? Or the nuke episode?

>>87418124
>connected, continuing narratives
And it took you this long to realize Twin Peaks isn't that?

>>87418020
I just take it as autistic schlubs who are sad that the threads aren't non-stop CUTE/Vedder/Judy posting anymore. That autist who posted Rhonda/what'shername even stopped weeks ago as there simply became too much to talk about to bring out tired memes on the daily.

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>>87418157
Don't put this on us m8
I don't give a shit about that website other than people acting like calling someone Reddit is an argument-ending insult

>>87418152
>Twin Peaks
you mean The Return

ep18 is shit but the last scene is pure KINO

>>87418152
Twin Peaks is that. Did you ever watch the original series' and fwwm?

The Return, well that was something else

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uh huh, yeah, yeah

>>87418157
>tfw the return finally talked about Judy it killed judyposting stone dead
Well, at least we'll always have *honks repeatedly* AAAAH AAAH AAAH AAAAAH AAAH

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Were they right?

>>87418020
Somehow I feel as if having to come up with one's interpretation is an intended part of the ending.

My take on it is that Cooper bailed and went home to Janey-E. How is this justified? We do know that a copy was made and it sure looks like a new Dougie went home and Cooper went on with his adventure but at the same time Cooper sure is acting differently the closer he comes to "becoming" Richard.

Cooper knew that the adventure could never really be resolved and that there were greater evils still out there. It's safe to believe that Cooper awoke from his coma with knowledge of the Black Lodge when he specifically asked about "the seed." It's also clear that Cooper became the magician, or at least a magician, in the end during his initial interaction with MIKE approaching him in the darkness.

Cooper's solution was to send on a copy and instead go home himself to a loving family. We know there's also a copy of Diane that peeks out from behind a corner. Tulpa Diane earlier in the series saw a clearly shady ass ghost hobo walking around and explained it away as "I don't know what I saw." This provides the basis for Copy Diane/Linda seeing the real Diane peeking out, making sure Richard and Linda are on their way.

What does this resolve? Judy is deceived into crafting deeper and deeper deceptions herself to keep Laura Palmer away from her.

>>87418291
one of my favorite scenes. Was laughing my ass off.

Actually, I could have easily cut out some of the pointless scenes like Beverly talking with her husband to have double the amount of scenes with Billy and Chad in the jail cell. Those never stopped being funny.

Who got LYNCHED the most?
>normies
>Showtime
>most of the cast

I don't get why people are so upset by the finale. It was so mesmerizing and atmospheric that I didn't even care about the plot. He made something so wonderful I didn't need any of the typical conventions I was accustomed to to enjoy it, that's when you know you just saw some real kino.

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>>87418354

probably these jubilant lads

>>87418376
Theoryfags got btfo all across the board.

>>87418354
Everybody involved. Including Lynch himself. I can deal with the ending we got but goddamn did Lynch need someone to reel him in more at times.

Why did BOB Coop want to teleport to Sarah Palmer instead of just drive 10 minutes, getting punked by Briggs and Fireman in the process?

>>87418313
If not for their cancellation there wouldn't be The Return.
We'd get 3-4 more seasons and each episode would be more meh than the last, especially considering that Lynch wouldn't direct most of them.
There would be no FWWM and Lost Highway further down the line. Because of that Mulholland Drive would be 2002-2003, and by that time we had Carnivale and LOST was just around the corner, so maybe MD became tv show?
Instead of Twin Peaks: The Return we get in the early 2010's Inland Empire as a limited tv event for Netflix.

>>87416279
>>87416205
that's not dougie, retard.

>>87418425
I don't know why these piss me off so much. That guy on the left literally looks like the living embodiment of the AIDS virus.

>>87418463
Wait, was Mr. C going to Sarah Palmer's house? I can't remember that part.

also lmao @ Mr. C getting punked by Briggs and the Fireman

>>87418354
I don't get this "Showtime has a grudge with Lynch" meme, they were his greatest allies and they wouldn't have given Lynch full control if they didn't trust him. If anything we should revere them, but not in a shill way, I'm not asking you to subscribe to them or anything, I just think they deserve some respect them for letting this alienating clusterfuck happen in the first place.

>>87418354
>>Showtime
showtime, for blowing a shitton of money into a show that couldn't beat Sabertooth Donovan.

>>87418334
I don't necessarily agree, but it's an interesting take. It would make me wonder why the two tulpas would ask "are you the real one?" before leaving the black lodge to go to the other world.

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>>87418376

Alright niggers, I want to let you know I've basically solved S3.

Cooper became a dreamer. That is, a magician, capable of seeing a way to a new world. Fire walk with me. In the current world, Judy was winning, Laura was already murdered. So Cooper went to save Laura the night of her death, to create a new world where she lived and could fight Judy.

Judy always knew this was possible. That's why "Sarah" freaked out so much at the turkey jerky: she was worried that someone had changed reality on her. As long as she knew what the timeline was, she was winning. As Coop says, "The past dictates the future." So for Coop to take down Judy, he'd have to change the past. "I hope I see all of you again."

But Cooper is not the only Dreamer. When he went back to save Laura from being killed by BOB, someone else snatched her away too (likely Judy, or an agent of Judy). What we see is not actually Laura being snatched away, but Cooper living through the world-shift. So Cooper indeed entered a world of his dreaming, that of Laura not being killed by BOB, but not only of his dreaming.

>>87418518
This, I'd understand it if they told him to fuck off after the whole 18 episodes vs 9 debacle, but he literally said "no thanks, I want 18, but you guys have my permission to do 9 without me", and they still rescinded and let him back with 18. Doesn't seem like any bad blood at all.

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A N I M A L
L O Y F E

>>87418514
He goes to that portal in the forest where that asian lady with no eyes popped out of with Andy

he goes to teleport to the Palmer house, but the Fireman and Briggs trap him in that cage, and put him in front of the sheriff's office.

BUT THE PORTAL IN THE FOREST IS LITERALLY IN THE TOWN OF TWIN PEAKS

WHY THE FUCK WOULD BOB COOP GO TELEPORT WHEN HE COULD PRACTICALLY WALK TO HIS DESTINATION

>>87418425
why are they laughing

>>87418600
He doesn't know where Judy is.

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>Mr Jefferies asks for Miss Judy at the Buenos Aires Hotel

Does this mean that The Missing Pieces is not canon now? I don't see that fitting with this new Jow-Day retcon

>>87418465
Truly, this is the best timeline.

>A RANDOM BRITISH GUY INTRODUCED 14 EPISODES INTO THE THIRD SEASON ENDS UP SAVING EVERYONE IN A CGI, CAPESHIT-ESQUE FIGHT

>>87418600
He probably didn't know where Judy was, and the coordinates he got pointed to the forest.
There it was revealed Judy was at the Palmer house, but he was redirected to the Sheriff's station instead by the Fireman.

But seriously why does Cooper lose his pin after leaving the lodge? Anyone else think he never really left the lodge? Like it was just a projection of him into the real world? I think any time you see Cooper with the pin on it is the real Cooper and he is in the lodge essentially. That's why I think the ending was just a big lodge sequence and we know the lodge is connected to dreams so I think the point is that it is a "dream" sequence. It starts when he disappears from the sherriff's station into the basement of the great northern but really that is just a part of the lodge. I think what we saw was the real black lodge and not just the waiting room. The black lodge is a journey through your own subconscious and if you can overcome the puzzle, which the Giant laid hints for but could only provide hints, you will be able to ascend to the white lodge. I think what we saw was a glimpse of Cooper's final journey through the lodge. Of course it makes sense he would meet people from his memories there, the point is to be the final test of whether you are worthy to go to the white lodge. I think Audrey is in a similar situation but she is an example of someone who hasn't found her way through the lodge yet.

>>87418610

I was laughing imagining the reaction of all the dugpa-tier retards

>>87417685
>>87418103
>"Oh boy look at that happy ending!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGqVDQ-7u0g&list=PLT6aoI6Aki8xeOrcJ9Avho3ZGjC4GghY2&index=79

>>87418642
Palmers went for their anniversary to Argentina.
Read about it in my new book.

>>87417494
why are you posting a screenshot of your own blog post here? fuck off.

>>87418559
>Laura was the chosen one destined to fight some eldritch evil
I really don't know what possessed Frost/Lynch to change the scope like that.

>>87418642
maybe he didn't know what Judy was at that point

>>87418522
Because they're unsure too by the end. When Richard shows his FBI badge to Carrie near the very end he looks a little unsure about it, doesn't he? The badge is almost even kind of toy-like and not the same one he showed at any other point.

The copies, Richard and Linda, can already sense something is amiss about them but Linda bails herself, or just becomes nonexistent, whatever, and Richard/Copy Cooper continues on, that really being the only thing he would do anyways.

>>87418665
I'm fully convinced that this is Lynch's fuck you to generic epin finale battle scenes. Either that or he's truly lost it.

>>87418642

Not that hard to work with. Cooper was apparently looking for Judy's the coffee shop, who's to say Jeffries in that reality wasn't driven to find Judy the person

>>87418665
Reminder glovelad was shown for the first time in part 2.

>>87418739
I always thought there was something in the fact that Judy's is where Carrie has to go to work day after day after day.

So, did anyone point out that the sound effect that plays when Coop lets go of Laura's hand in the end of part 17 is the exact same one that plays in the first scene of part 1, when the giant tells him to "listen to the sounds"?
Compare: https://youtu.be/-G-x_jfddis?t=29s

>getting rid of the owls
>having gay shit that Lodge entities can travel through electricity
>Mike shouting "Electricity" like a faggot
This series is objectively shit.

>>87418735
>i-i-i-i-it's supposed to be shit!!!

lynch apologists are second only to kojima drones in how pathetic they are

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>>87417819
>>87417908

Shit meme

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>>87417985

>http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Bellhop

Something about how straight-faced all these wiki biographies are written is just amazing

>>87418735
Consider the fact that the next scene has Coop's superimposed face for 3 minutes while he realizes that his reality is fucked.

Before that you had your Tarantino-like shootout which was masterfully done and in e18 you have the Judy's diner sequence, again with well choreographed fight.

Lynch is alright, if not better than ever.

>>87418735
I don't think anybody actually wanted an epic battle scene in Twin Peaks though. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

>>87418799
>he's never seen the movie

>>87418809
Found the /v/ incel.

>>87418675
I said it signifies change and growth, not necessarily a happy or neat-and-tidy conclusion. That look on his face is weary and melancholy, but he is learning a secret, a secret that we come to know over the course of 18 hours + all what has come before. He might not be happier, but he knows more than he did before. Which is the key to growth and self-realization, which has been an important Lynchian theme since FWWM.

I see the good along with the bad/sad/strange. You seem to be fixated solely on your initial emotional response.

>>87418794
What was the significance of 430 again?

>>87418799

Electricity has been a thing since the original series, Leo is woken up when Windom Earle sets off a bomb that fucks up the power in Twin Peaks.

>getting rid of the owls

LOL who cares, autism

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>>87416124
Alright fuck it, I'll bite. What is this shit about? I've seen it posted all over /tv/ and eventually I got curious enough to Youtube a couple clips. Somebody give me a quick rundown.

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it stinks!

>>87418936
The point where Coop could cross over to the other world was a 430 mile drive from somewhere

I dunno where he learnt the rest of the details.

>>87418891
FWWM is trash and ruined the mythology with the stupid fucking ring and electricity bullshit.

>>87418799
>he thought the owls were what they seemed after accounting for them not being what they seemed
the owls are definitively NOT what they seem

>>87418809
it's not supposed to be shit, just intentionally goofy as par the course for lynch's style. e17 is full of hammy shit, but its all put into perspective when coop's translucent face hangs over the scene, and it makes sense even more so when contrasted with the terrifying futility and confusion of e18. e17 was demonstrating how utterly ridiculous a neat and tidy conclusion is for twin peaks, its the sort of show that benefits from unresolved mysteries.

>>87418965
Quirky cop drinking coffee and eating cherry pie.

HOL UP

if MIKE and The Arm were just using Coop this whole time to dispatch BOB, then wouldn't making Coop a lodge initiate in the process just cause more problems for them?

he can now attempt to find them and fuck these niggas up

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>>87418711
Oh, Richard is definitely not 100% Coop. I think he's some combination of Coop and his doppelganger.
You know how Bad Coop speaks at a much lower tone than Coop? Look at the interrogation scene in part 4. His voice is slowed down far enough so that the change in pitch is noticeable.
Now go listen to Richard asking the waitress to right down the address at Judy's. He speaks at a lower tone than Coop. It's less noticeable, but it's definitely still there.

>>87418965
>What is this shit about?
Believe me, most of us are just as clueless as you are.
I think it's about a girl that got murdered or something.

>>87418965
Mystery thriller that eventually breaks so many walls and boundaries that it becomes like looking into pure consciousness. A little hyperbolic but that's the best I could do.

Start with the pilot of the original series. If you're not hooked on that, then the show might not be for you. Also, avoid spoilers like the plague.

>>87419032

Because he means fucking business, he's not in coffee and pie mode.

>>87418965
It's a randomly generated show, a bot writes the plot and dialogue by putting together snippets of text from wikipedia and hermetic esoteric texts and the final product is a nonsensical show with no sense of continuity or logic.

Fans try to pull a plot out of their ass to appear smarter than they are, while mocking anyone that declares that the emperor is naked.

The Return is Frost & Lynch shoehorning ideas from Ronnie Rocket, One Saliva Bubble and other unproduced scripts into the Twin Peaks world. They used Twin Peaks for their other shitty ideas.

>>87418667
CRACKED presents 8 reasons picard never left the nexus

>/tpg/ before the finale
LMAO @ THOSE LYNCHED FAGGOTS WHO WANT COOPER TO COME BACK, THE SIDE PLOTS ARE JUST AS MUCH A PART OF TWIN PEAKS AS COOPER AND LAURA
>/tpg/ after the finale
LMAO @ THOSE LYNCHED FAGGOTS WHO CARED ABOUT THOSE STUPID RETARDED SIDE PLOTS, BOBBY AND SHELLEY WHO THE FUCK ARE THOSE AHAHAHAHHAHA IT'S ALL A DREAM THEY ARE MEANINGLESS AND YOU ARE L Y N C H E D

Normalfags hate episode 18 because they want to be spoonfed the answers and not have to think about them at all. All of the plotlines were completely wrapped with concrete endings with the exception of Judy and Sarah Palmer, who may still be wrapped up depending on your interpretation of the ending.

>BOB gets btfo by Several Punches Lad
>Norma breaks up with Ed so she can date Jacoby
>Ed and Norma get married
>Richard Horne gets btfo and Mr. C confirms he's his father
>Audrey wakes up from her bomb-induced coma dream
>Marshall Briggs was killed and went to the White Lodge where he continues to support the team battling Judy alongside the Fireman
>A new Dougie tulpa goes to live with Janey and Jim

You don't have to see all of these events happening or have someone give an overly detailed monologue to understand that they happened. They can be inferred by the final scenes involving them.

>>87418965
watch the original series, then the movie, then the outtakes from the movie, then s3. then come back to discuss what you've just witnessed (if /tpg/ still exists by then). you've got a lot of ground to cover. I'll see you again in 25 years ;)

>>87419078

Find me one person who said this

>>87419080
Nadine breaks up with Ed *

>>87418863
Read Sepinwall's review of parts 17 + 18 at Uproxx. The BOB punching scene was his favorite part of the finale, and he shat all over part 18 because it dragged out too long.
That's why the punching scene is there- pointing it at people's faces, asking 'is this really what you want?' before getting to the really good stuff.
Of course, even this went over Sepinwall's head.

>>87419080
>>Norma breaks up with Ed so she can date Jacoby
what a cruel twist

Only plot I wanted a bit more time spent on was the Hornes (all three of them), plus Bobby and Red (and Becky).

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>>87417494
>That one fedora faggot on a forum who spend 24/7 cooking up the most inane theories about the most inane crap imaginable, only to have it all collapse in failure and ruin once the show finally ends.

>>87419078
ahahaha
L

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>>87419080
>All of the plotlines were completely wrapped with concrete endings
Bobby/Shelley/Red
Ben and his secretary
Hawk and Margaret's shit went nowhere
That guy that was supposed to meet Andy

>>87419080
This is literally the only argument you and your kind seem to have. You are so intelligent for understanding your oh so complex show. There is absolutely no substance there. There are no original or even good ideas. Most of the actors are bad. Et cetera.

>>87419098
>>87416264

>>87419080

Also
>Bobby matured into a responsible law-abiding adult
>Shelly is a dumb roastie who let their daughter become a psycho drug addict who's now been killed by her lowlife husband

>>87419080
Briggs wasn't killed though
His head just ascended out of his body

>>87419032
It's considered, but I still consider Richard the copy that was made. We at least know that a copy of Diane was made as well. It's not like suddenly one spawned out from behind a pillar. Tulpa Diane established that Diane will see bizarre shit like ghost coal hobos and not say a word about it until much later.

Cooper magicianed up some copies, went the fuck home and spent the rest of his life balls deep in Naomi Watt's pussy.

My take may stretch thing but it does make a sense out of the mess of the ending and offers some closure on most accounts.

But who knows what was up with Laura Palmer whispering into Cooper's ear during the credits.

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Lol Frostedf

So what was up with the end of episode 7 where the guy comes in and asks for Billy and the continuity of the diner is fucked up?

>>87417494
/tv/ spergs should stay off of dugpa

>>87419159
>Hawk and Margaret's shit went nowhere
This is very disappointing, especially since there was so much time spent on him investigating the Laura case, finding the diary pages, etc. I don't even remember him sharing a word with Dale at the Sheriff's Station.

>>87419076
I'm serious though, I could believe Cooper losing the pin on the way into the real world but he gets it back in 17 after teleporting. There is no indication he "found" it. I actually think I might be on to something. Hawk said the black lodge was a place you pass through on the way to perfection which I assume is the white lodge he also said it was where you meet your shadow self this is obviously the doppleganger. I think after Cooper defeated the doppleganger he was now ready for the real trial of the black lodge. It would make sense why he was allowed to "leave" (in part) in the first place because it was time for him to face his shadow self. After that he has to face the lodge itself which I think is "Judy" and that's what the journey at the end was. It was a series of trials to test Cooper. We are only shown the beginning of it though we won't know what it is like when or if he passes them. I don't think it's an accident Hawk was so important, it's because his tribe understood the lodge and it's true roll in the universe.

>>87418936
>Anonymous 09/07/17(Thu)10:33:16 No.87418936▶
>>>87418794
>What was the significance of 430 again?
motel room number ya dunce

>>87419192
I'm literally don't give a fuck about that

>>87419172

Find me where this anonymous person said something different before the finale

>>87417358
>To Donna's Kid sister?
you've got to be kidding me

>>87418965
An innocent small town high school girl that everyone loves is murdered, and a shining beacon of humanity who works for the FBI is sent to investigate, Turns out there's a ton of seedy shit and some sort of extradimensional happenings going on in this place.

It's loved half because of it's sometimes loveable and unorthadox characters and themes, sometimes dark and oppresive characters and themes, and the (at the time) very different way of presenting it's story. (This happened again with S3 btw).

I always recommend you watch up to the end of the third episode (pilot (NOT the International version, DO NOT watch that), then the next two). If you aren't interested by the end of that, it might not be for you. If you are, buckle up for the ride sonny jim.

>>87419080
>marshall

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Friendly reminder that doppelcoop did nothing wrong and Cooper was the real fuck-up the entire time

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>>87419159
All of this is easily answered...
IF YOU BUY MY BOOK YOU CHEAP CUNTS

>>87419080
>richard horne gets btfo
I never really understood what happened to him. if the aim was to trap Mr C so he could be returned to the lodge, why didn't we see Richard end up there? It's pretty obvious Mr C can't be killed with Bob inside of him because the woodsmen turn up and revive him, so what was the point of the trap?

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Any other objective flaws that I should take into consideration? I think there's a lot to respect from s3 but Lunch really dropped the ball here.

>>87419264
FUCK OFF FROST

>>87419264
Frost is an antichrist

>>87419289

What fucking dumb retard made that picture holy shit how can you be so fucking stupid

>>87419264
Wait, fuck, THIS ENDING REALLY WAS JUST TO GET US ALL TO BUY THE FINAL DOSSIER TO GET A CLEARER ANSWER ON HOW THINGS ENDED.

E18 WAS ALL JUST TO GET US TO BUY THE BOOK

It makes so much sense now.

>>87416290

Doesn't even seem to be the same gun.

>>87419225
?

the motel room number was 7.

>>87419289
>Looking for plot holes in Lynch's work

How retarded are you?

>>87419323
Go ahead and refute it instead of rambling, please.

>>87419159
I don't think the stuff with Ben and his secretary was ever meant to go anywhere
The guy who was supposed to meet Andy was the owner of the pickup truck which Richard used to kill the kid, and the wide open door to his house is an implication that Richard killed him to cover his tracks
I guess that Becky's husband killed her and then killed himself while under effect of the drugs that Red was dealing in twin peaks, though yeah it's never made 100% clear and the reaction of Bobby and Shelley is never shown

>>87419017
What were the first 16 episodes demonstrating? That Lynch is terrible at television?

>>87419289
how many times did ronette get raped that night

>>87419289
Ronette is just a human, so who cares.

>>87419289
Are you retarded? You don't actually think that would have happened do you?

>>87419360

Jesus Christ, why would Ronnete be in the train car with Leland? He was after Laura, not her.

>>87419188
>he doesn't know what she whispered in his ear 25 years ago
>he doesn't know who made him remember

Hint: my father killed me (my mother is Judy) and Mrs. Tremond (Mrs. Tremond)

>>87419289
No because BOB was defeated in all timelines remember?

>>87419362
>the reaction of Bobby and Shelley is never shown
because a girl scratching a rash on her armpit and a random asian girl screaming are much more intersting

>>87419365
This. The Return showed an artist who has lost all control of his medium.

was the location where they crossed the same spot where the doppelganger had his accident?

>>87419362
>I guess that Becky's husband killed her and then killed himself
I doubt this, when Becky calls Shelly in part 13 she says that Steven hasn't been home for days, this probably precipitates Steven's suicide, as opposed to Becky's rampage in part 11, even though Bobby's scene later in the episode seems to come before said rampage.
In short the timelines are fucked, but I don't think she's dead.

>>87419384
why not, he planned to kill her right from the start.
He bring "R" letter just for her

>>87419422
Didn't look like it

>>87419406
nice headcanon

>>87419017
That's a strawman argument, just because you make the resolution stupid garbage it doesen't show that any kind of resolution is stupid garbage. An actual writer would have actually worked on making the conclusion satisfying, making shit on porpouse while disregarding the past 16 hours isn't a show of writing talent in any way shape or form

>>87419289
That's implying Leland is still with BOB in that timeline/al-verse/whatever. Also, if he is, why would Leland take Ronette if Laura isn't there? He didn't give a shit about her and he initially took a risk anyway since Leo and Renault were there (though drunk/bashed in the head), but that was him being ready to finally deal with Laura. And if Laura never became a whore, why would Llenad go there to the cabin in the first place.

>>87419421
It might have actually been good if they were limited to 9 episodes.

>>87417494
Kind of ironic that his avatar is from The Prisoner considering its ending.

>>87419406
well. if Bob was defeated in all dimensions then Laura is alive right?

>>87419458
Any meaning about the ending is a headcanon

>>87419406
I like the ending we got but the evil ball of BOB was super, super fucking stupid. All I can imagine is that Frost secretly demanded to direct that scene and Lynch let him just for old time's sake and to shut him up.

>>87419454

OK so you are just a retard that doesn't pay attention, cool.

>>87418799
I never got what was so important about the owls, wasn't that some season 2 shit?

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>>87419406

>>87419229
prove to me that God isn't real

>>87419490
It was pretty FROSTY, remember he made capekino before.

>>87419365
I ain't gonna argue with you, dude. I thought the show was one of the most incredible things we'll see in our lifetime on television, but I definitely don't want another season.

the more you and the wider majority hate it, the more I can treat it like a dirty little secret or taboo fetish (like auto-erotic asphyxiation, or rather, a good-old fashioned LYNCHING).

>>87418799
I'm going to admit, getting rid of the owls was really not great. There was so much potential for them.

>also totally not ending with Mr. C getting back up again like before just before Cooper puts the ring on him, and grabbing Cooper's hand to take his ass to the lodge too with it ending in Cooper chasing Mr. C down like what happened before. Com'on, it was so obvious to do

>>87419497
Yeah, some Frost shit.
Lynch said he has no idea what they meant in a conversation with Alex Jones.

>>87419518
that's just normal daddy being mad his daughter is a whore and going out late at night when she should be in bed

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>>87419476
>if Laura woke up that day in 1989 and Leland wasn't infested by BOB she wouldn't be a whore
>by that logic she wouldn't be on coke either
>Tfw Laura would probably just have a nice, pleasant life as the Homecoming Queen, loved by the town for her kindness and work with Johnny and Meals on Wheels

This made me feel even harder than just her being alive did, fuck.

>>87419437
Doesen't Steven have Becky's gun in his hand? Gresten Hayward implies she just killed a woman and that it was her own fault. I doubt he just killed a random person

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Andy forgot his gut!

HE-LLOOOOO dingdingdingdingding
HEEEEELL-LOOOO! Dingdingding

So deep, so meaningful, so artistic.

NEW

>>87419589
>>87419589
>>87419589

>>87419556
>incredible things
what was so incredible about it besides Showtime actually giving Lynch money to make it?

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David Lynch has proven to be incompetent and incapable of caring for so many malnourished plot threads and he should lose custody of them.

>>87419588
stop looking at it

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>>87419570
>BOB was removed from existence
>Leland still raped laura her entire life

>>87419564
Is there a way to differentiate between what's Lynch's and what's Frost's contribution to Twin Peaks? I used to think more of the character drama from the original seasons was Frost, while Lynch focused more on the Cooper and Lodge stuff, but after The Return I'm not too sure.

>>87419490

no way it was Frost, it was shot like an outtake from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caWXt9lCVrc

>>87419564
It's probably the coolest thing Frost added to the world that is Twin Peaks, to be fair.

I know I sure wanted the whole owl business to be further expounded upon.

>>87419581
> Why?
>There is no why. I did do it.
>no, she did it. She did it.
>I can't. No. I did it.
>No, Steven. Steven, stop it.You didn't do anything, ok? You were fucking stoned. What the fuck did she give you? Give me the gun, okay?
Nothing overt about a murder here, if anything it recalls the scene in part 10 where Steven hits Becky and says I "know what you did"

>>87416781
Cringe

>>87419556
The wider majority don't hate it though. The normies over at reddit love it, dugpa largely loves it, most of us love it

>>87419683
Then buy my book, bitch.

>>87419645

Frost: the townies and character development, theosophy elements (lodges, dugpas, Dweller on the Threshold), Americana and UFO/government conspiracies, Windom Earle

Lynch: all the spirits and worlds, electricity, corn, dreaming, Buddhism/reincarnation

If you look at it all the Black/White Lodge stuff was developed when Lynch wasn't there. I think it's only mentioned a total of twice (Annie, then bad Coop) in stuff Lynch directed or wrote.

>>87417012
That was the impression I got when I rewatched it. That she said "My father killed me" again, as in, the evil that was done to her cannot be undone regardless of time travel shenanigans. That's why Coop looks so sad.

Either that or she whispered something for more awful that made Coop look that sad.

>>87419600
>lynch finally realising ronnie the rocket with the las vegas/dougie arc
>gorgeous cinematography
>lynch spending a good chunk of showtime's money on getting underrated musical guests airtime and publicity
>episode 8
>that harrowing conclusion
>plot threads which don't go anywhere but nevertheless contribute to the rich world-building
>an admirable lack of consideration towards satisfying die-hard audiences

I'll admit, the only bits that kinda sucked were the fbi sequences. Don't feel like albert was as insultingly charming as he used to be, and tammy was a wooden plank. but beyond that it was brilliant

>>87419648
did lynch resurrect david lochary

>>87419957
The Return gave more development to the Lodges than the original show did.

>>87419966
>Dale tries to fix things
>instead fucks up and breaks everything with his newfound magician/lodge powers
>is immediately kicked back to the dream he shared with Laura Palmer, her still whisper her father killed her, proving he can't undo what's been done

Feels bad, man.

>>87417288
>will have had

Who wrote that fucking article?

>>87419490
This. The ultimate evil from the old series was destroyed by a literally who with a magic glove? That was given to him from the giant who gave him direct instructions, rather than the usual cryptic clues? This was capeshit-tier.

I'm really disappointed that the Mitchum brothers really didn't come to any use in the finale.

>>87420093
They got Dale Cooper to Twin Peaks just in time to stop Mr. C. Without them the Dale never would have made it in time.

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>>87420072
>This was capeshit-tier.

>>87420072
thatsthejoke.jpg

>>87420058
feels bad, but it could be worse. There's a reason I think it shows Cooper and Laura back in the Red Room as our final shot of the series as opposed to something else.

>>87420143
>They got Dale Cooper to Twin Peaks just in time to stop Mr. C
He didn't really do much except get Lucy on the phone and tip her off that Mr. C was an impostor.

>>87420255
If you're saying that the resolution to the BOB plot was a joke then yes I agree with you.

They could have had Bob killed by
>Coop
>Mike
>Dale
>Laura
>the giant
But instead he was killed by a literally who. Why?

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>>87420391
>super nadine didn't run in when everything was dire

>>87420391
I just noticed I listed "Coop" and "Dale" separately, woops.

>>87420093
They brought snack trays

>>87420336
>>87420391

It's besides the point, and Lynch wanted to underline this. Killing BOB truly resolves nothing as the evil persists and there will always be a "BOB", the empty happy reunion with Cooper's face of dread superimposed over it underlines the idea with a big old red marker.

Suddenly aware of the false victory, Cooper "awakens" from the dream of a happy ending. He leaves the dream to attempt to walk with fire one more time, to try to undo the evil at its core.

Does he fail or succeed? Despite all of the theories that seems to be an open question

>>87420391
Willy was fucking great. I was going to be really upset if he died. I'm glad he killed BOB.

>>87417767
It's weird that nobody is talking about this
>>87418141
Both