/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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Okay. What is with the red hair?

Imagine Twenty One Pilots performing Trees at the Roadhouse for Season 4 opener.

>>87391030
Redheads Are The Wildcard

>>87391031
>didn't get his first post

JUST

Go to sleep already faggot.

What happened to Leo and Donna?

>>87391031
OP confirmed for trying to jazz up his thread with controversy.

>>87391060
doesn't make it less true

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>>87391030
She's his mother's sister's girl.

>>87391030
Am I the only one who thought she was a qt?

I want to see her smile.

>>87391008
Hey people. I'm early so please do your best when I ask don't spoil.
Is the book worth reading? Actually? I have barely started season 2 and while I love the show, I feel like going from show to book is a bit of a misstep. Twin Peaks to me always was a visual and while I know Frost cowrote the show I am just unsure of having to read about this fucked up world without visuals.
Anyways good book? Second book coming out soon too right?

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>>87391030
personifications of the red room/black lodge. Red curtains, black/white nails/floor

>>87391117
you have to wait 1 minute between posts you redditor

Through the entirety of The Return we are shown scenes from both the original timeline (OT, where Laura died) and new timeline (NT, where Cooper saved Laura), intercut with one another. In the OT, Audrey is in a coma, Richard Horne was born, Chinese drugs are driving kids mad, James plays a live set in the Roadhouse, child zombies etc - all sorts of horrible things, and radiation ("black fire") is leaking out of lodge portals, causing Harry Truman, Log Ladt, and Beverly's husband to get leukemia.

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>>87391137
No, don't read Mark Frost bull crap.

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>>87391117
I was actually the third IP in the thread, so he'd have to be an advanced faggot to pull that off.

>>87391157
Not with a pass.

>>87391137
dont read it its fucking garbage

>>87391122
You're not the only person to do anything. Quit trying to be special.

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>>87391183
fuck off redditor

>>87391191
>>87391172
Fuck. I impulse bought it while hammered last night and it's already on the way. At least it's hard cover.
Seriously, that fucking bad?

>>87391203
It actually does shorten your post time. But again, he was IP (3).

>>87391204
Yup. Mark Frost is crap.

>>87391157
PC to phone. Only OP knows for a while when he's making a new thread.

Pasta poster here. I am not that amateur impostor in spbp. Easy to spot. Missing line: take the red pill

>>87391203
I have a pass dickweed, you get 30 seconds to post.

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Is Coop actually Coop at the end? He seems more like a mix of the original Cooper, Dougie and bad Coop.

>>87391243
He's a tulpa. Real Coop is with Janey-E.

>>87391225
But he co-wrote the show right? What's wrong with the book exactly?
I kind of hope you people are fucking with me, but if not, I should ignore the pastebin then huh? Finish 2, then FWWM, and S3 and ignore any book?

>>87391238
big if true

>>87391243
He's Richard, or at least trying not to be.

>>87391243
that's richard

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>>87391243
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/twin-peaks-kyle-maclachlan-finale-1202547022/

>Did you feel that Richard, in the finale, was a distinct character of his own, or just Cooper with a different name?

>He was… different. The way it was described to me, he’s just a little harder. So it was another variation, sort of a subtle variation obviously, compared to the other two, but a subtle variation of Cooper. And so that was that last hour, Watching him navigate that.

>>87391243
Coop is only season one Coop for less than 20mins.

I'm willing to bet those who are praising this mess of a season would be singing a different tune if this was the work of another and Lynch hadn't returned. But because it's Lynch suddenly its genious and he just changed the landscape of T.V. *gag*

"Lynch is saying FUCK YOU to narrative and coherency! He's so awesome!" Uh ok...you have fun with that bullshit. Hundreds of characters introduced only to fade out of existence along with whatever plotlines they may have had. 18 hours for what exactly? For Lucy and some random idiot with a green glove to save the day while Cooper only comes back to be used as a vehicle for a possible season 4? Huh?

Lynch was on coke when he wrote this drivel. No explanation.

>>87391243
Did he spend another 25 years in the lodge after failing to save Laura in the past? That might have made him weary.

>>87391296
>yfw he let slip early on that he played 4 characters
>but some had the audacity to ask if he was counting fat dougie as one

>>87391239
This.

1

>>87391275
The book doesn't explain anything and muddies shit up even further. Lynch himself didn't read it, but ultimately Episode 18 confirms the book's retcons, just like Frost promised.

None of the clues provided work right now, even the white pony Troy one.

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>>87391256

What a sloppy season. So many unneeded plotlines and characters that were just dropped for no reason. Dead ends. Horrible. Absolutely horrible. So much potential down the drain. Someone just edit all the best moments into a montage for me and I'll be fine with that. No way do I see myself watching these episodes again.

There's a lot of stuff I did like about the season. I loved the graphic violence and darker tone and thought several of the newbies had potential (Becky, Richard, Red) but ultimately every one was basically pointless. I'm not even going to talk about the abortion that was Audrey . Audrey is raped by an evil doppelganger of Cooper and gives birth to a psycho kid but instead of delving deep into that- Audrey is turned into some confused nagging old shrew who only shows up to dance and is never seen again?

Maybe Showtime should've left this at 9 episodes as originally planned. Or maybe they should've just left it alone. Embarrassing.

>>87391327

2

>>87391256
Lol nope

>>87391296
What did she day to him?

>>87391204
its absolute shit, half of it is stuff like "Did you know Former President Richard Nixon... wore the owl cave ring!!!!!!!!!"

the other half is "Did you know that Dougie Milford (a throwaway season 2 shit-era character that you may not even remember the name of) met the giant!!!!!!!"

>>87391243
>>87391296
Richard who? His name is Dale. If he told you his name was Richard, he was lying.

>>87391344
>unneeded plotlines and characters that were just dropped for no reason

Sounds like a dream I wonce had...

>>87391339
>>87391345

See. It's OP with a pass. Putting the copy paste on auto immediately after making new thread.

SERIOUSLY FUCK I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THE OTHER CHARACTER SHIT FUCK

>>87391239
>I have a pass
definitely a redditor

>>87391344
>meone just edit all the best moments into a montage for me and I'll be fine with that.

Do it yourself

>>87391378
why would he take 52 seconds to post it instead of 30 you mongoloid. and why would he link the thread in the previous thread before he had got it in first.

>>87391379
Why was Sonny Jim a roastie? I demand an explanation, Lynch.

So was the whole series a dream or somethin since Laura didn't actually die?
Also, what was up with Cooper exiting Black Lodge at will again in the beginning of ep18? Was he transcended into a lodge being? What is Diane doing there? What happened when they crossed the 430 miles?

E18 just tripled the amount of questions I had with the series, fuck

>>87391403
Make thread
30 seconds to link it in old one. 30 seconds to post the pasta. It's always towards the dying end. And nobody is refreshing constantly.

>>87391353
"I shat in your coffee"

>>87391403
Just give up, OP. It's over.

>>87391344
>NINE EXTRA HOURS OF RED HERRINGS AND DEAD AIR

>HOPE YA LIKED IT, FUCKERS!

- David Lynch, 2017.

>>87391455
if the goal is to post the pasta as the first post then why wouldn't you post the pasta before you link it in the old one lmao

>>87391455
Mod here. Can confirm both OP posted the pasta and used a pass.

>>87391243
He's not Richard. Diane becomes Linda, i.e. Cooper rapes Linda, but Cooper is convinced that he's FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper to the very end.

>>87391487
Someone found the thread while he was making it.

hows annie?
hows annie?

Why did stopping the murder of Laura create a whole new Laura?

>>87391487
It's a variant of that anyway.

>>87391455
>30 seconds to link it in old one
>30 seconds to post the pasta

so why is the post less than a minute apart from the op lmao

>>87391301
Haha faggot

0 replies for (you)

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You guys are seriously retarded.

>>87391379
Was Naomi Watts always a hiplet?
Or is is something that happens in old age?

>>87391168
So what scenes are NT?

>>87391554
Notice how the picture itself remains undamaged.

>>87391577
Wow, such symbolism, much profound.

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At night im driving in your car
Pretending that we'll leave this town
We're watching all the street lights fade

>And now you're just a stranger's dream
>I took your picture from the frame
>And now you're nothing like you seem
>Your shadow fell like last night's rain

>>87391031
hahahahaha LYNCHED

>>87391031
Youur a faggot and you know it

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>>87391610

>>87391553
Damn, you sure showed him

>>87391645
>>87391645
go kill yourself literal faggot redditor

>>87391031
first post of hearts <3

daily reminder to all redditors that making a thread does not reset your post timer, you can put a post in a thread immediately after making it with no cooldown inbetween

>>87391698
yeah but he posted in another thread before replying to his own brainlet. fuck off back to pleddit.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391

What happened to the poll? Also why is Part 17 suddenly leading? Some upset troll or does /tv/ really have that many plebs?

>>87391758
>his goal was to put a copypasta as the first post in his thread
>he decided to achieve this goal by linking people here and then waiting 30 seconds to post it

w d h m b t

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>tfw no scene of Bobby confronting his dad in purple wave castle

Post yfw Lynch announces secret part 19 real finale.

>>87391761
idk senpai, ep 17 was pretty kinoey
Coop meeting Laura in 1989 and taking her by the hand and leading her off the path to death before she disappears was beautiful and sad at the same time.
ep 18 was just Coop staring blankly into space for an hour before saying "...huh?"

Seriously what the fuck happened to Leo?

>>87391031
fuck you albert

So if the whole thing was a dream then that says a lot about dreams I guess.

Last night I had a dream that I was watching some Jurassic Park movie that doesn't exist, then Laura Dern showed up from time to time and then there was this ad for a Netflix (or something like it but the UI was based on Netflix) original that happened to be Twin Peaks Season 4 and it had Diane on the front of it. Then I was talking to some people showing them this stream service and convincing them to watch The X-Files, and then I ended up watching an "episode," it happened to be "Young At Heart" but it was this weird feature-length film version and here's how that went:

>Mulder and Scully investigate something in a sewer because a monster attacks someone (?)
>there's a guy with a pentagram tattoo on his palm
>later, M and S are back at this FBI place (looks like a regular house) and they're mad at each other, one of them says "fuck" and M shoves S against the wall or through a door (?)
>M is told to look at the evidence that includes three suspect alligators in these tanks
>M determines that it couldn't have been an alligator because one was blind, the other had something wrong with it, nothing said about the third alligator
>office stuff I don't remember, talking scenes
>cafeteria scene
>M and S are sitting together
>an FBI agent goes through a room that leads to the stairs to the roof
>something happens to him, disappears I think (?)
>the villain appears but no one knows it's him
>suddenly, I'm in control of him and I just look at different girls who get kinda freaked (I know he has cataract eyes like the doppelgangers in the Black Lodge so that's why I look at them?)
>back to spectator
>something alerts M and S to go through the room to the stairs (?)
>villain goes to lobby (?)
>I check the time, we're at the 98 minute mark
>M runs down to the lobby, the lady tells him she saw his doppelganger leave
>says he had a tattoo of a swastika on his hand and cataracts, M knows who it is

>>87391554
ETSUBATSU

Reggie was then about to be introduced then the dream ended.

It was really interesting to me and I was sad that it had to end prematurely.

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>>87391837
17 was the fantasy, and 18 was facing the horrible truth that is underneath and at the core of Twin Peaks.

>>87391031
>look mom I posted it again

>>87391837
>Coop meeting Laura in 1989 and taking her by the hand and leading her off the path to death before she disappears was beautiful and sad at the same time.
they played that part again in 18, though it was more effective at the end of 17 tbf

>>87391798
you are literally retarded. off yourself. just off yourself. i'm serious.

>>87391922
L Y N C H E D\

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Why 253

OP
02:47:13

OP linking thread
02:47:54

QT post
02:48:03

Pasta
02:48:05

Conclusion: OP is posting the pasta. Just because OP is always a faggot.

>>87391949
2+5+3=10
Number of completion

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>>87391949
Why 7:21?

Which is almost invert of 2:53 on the clock.

>>87391980
Holy shit, and 7+2+1=10.

So is The X-Files canon or is this just pure coincidence?

>>87391848
new shoes

>>87391956
haha LYNCHED my good buddy

>>87391031
someday you will find out how wrong you are...

>after crossing over with Diane, Coop gets ported to alternative universe

wow what a great ending!

Cooper achieves lodge powers and travels back in time, saving Laura and erasing the entire timeline since 1989.

Post your face when you realise that Cooper's mission wasn't to stop Doppelcoop - it was Doppelcoop trying to stop Real Coop all along (and prevent his timeline from being erased)

>>87391887
Both are fantasy and reality, there is no "truth".

>>87392028
Yeah, he totally is...

>>87392043
i always thought that was doppelcoops agenda
like highlander

>>87392043
>erasing
Not erasing. He warned everyone that "some things will change".

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>>87392043

>>87392094

Yeah, like that kid you had will never be born ... Would Wally Brando exist if Andy & Lucy hadn't got together while working on the Palmer case?

>>87391956
found the redditor

>>87392004
Nothing personnel faggot but this is pretty plainly stated in the dialogue of part 17

>>87391761
Previous thread was utter shit.

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Last thread was definitely OP.

>>87392207
ever heard of autism?

>>87392197
Did you reply to the right person?

Why did not Coop (Richard) say anything about the dead body?

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Childhood is idolizing the Twin Peaks characters.
Adulthood is realizing Frank Booth is Lynch's greatest character.

>>87392234
your saying the guy refreshed the catalog for half an hour to make the first post?

>>87392275
>what are scripts?

>>87392289
>What are captchas?

>>87392253
>brainlet velvet

>>87392253
What even was this guy huffing. Nitrous?

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>>87392245
right person...

>>87392289
Oh, you mean the "make first post in twin peaks general"-script... Literal brainlet faggot redditor.

>>87392415
>got to fuck both watts and dern
HOW CAN ONE MAN BE THIS LUCKY

>>87392442
talk about lucky >>87377777

>>87392367
he was huffing seeds feed

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SARAH IS NOT JUDY FOR FUCKS SAKE.

This has to stop. Judy is not like Bob, she's a "force" she is what Bob originally was. It is the showrunners reclaiming the concept of Bob after having to use him as a literal demon entity in TR. The Frogmoth is not Judy, how does that make any sense? The frogmoth has the nose of The Jumping Man and we saw that in Sarah when she took her face off.

The portal they step through when they go meet Jeffries, the room with the wallpaper, this the home of the Palmer's. It is the dream Laura had in the movie, she sees herself in a painting and steps into it, it's their home but a twisted version of it.

When we enter that place, both times in The Return, we see The Jumping Man, this is Sarah in her home, her grief and pain manifested through the intense turmoil we see in The Jumping Man, her face is literally on him for fucks sake, could it be more clear than that?

If Bob is the spirit that steals garmonbozia, and The Arm is the one consumes it, then The Jumping Man is the spirit that takes on the emotional turmoil of the victims they leave behind. It's as if he's stuck playing over the events of her death, in a constant state of total despair.

>>87392557
What's your opinion on the scene where the glove boy kills BOB?

>>87391122
She's going a sour face.

>>87392640
Absolute and pure kino

I WON'T LET THESE THREADS DIE UNTIL SOMEONE TELLS ME WHY THE FUCK COOP GAVE ZERO SHITS ABOUT THE FATE OF ANNIE

>>87391761
18 is better but worthless without 17

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>>87392640
THIS... IS MY... DESTINY

>>87392661
fuck annie lol seriously

ONE PAUNCH

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>>87392640
I thought it was pretty terrible, until Coop's face got superimposed on the screen and that sort of gave the whole scene a new meaning

>>87392661
Annie was probably manufactured by Windom to lure him into the lodge. She just appears out of nowhere as a character, her conversations with Cooper sound weird as fuck, and she exists as a lodge spirit in FWWM. When the doppelganger comes out, he becomes aware of this (hence why he hits his face in the mirror and laughs crazily - he finds it ridiculous that he ran into the lodge to save her).

>>87391031
i enjoyed the series but a lot of these criticisms are correct, especially about the set design and photography.

>>87392661
she's an off-screen rape and murder victim of Mr. C.

Cooper likely got all of Mr. C's memories when he died, which meant he knew there and then.

>>87392718
you might be onto something!

>>87392703
I agree, as soon as the face got superimposed I was like "fuck". It also makes sense in the context of the massive room of machines the fireman had - he was working his ass off to kill BOB in the most stupid, easy way possible (that is, the average redditor's stupid fanfiction).

>>87392716
She really was the muffin. Season 3 reveals all.

>>87392666
and 17 is a terrible mess without 18.

>>87392557
Judy is literally described as an entity, you fucking moron.

>>87392415
Watts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dern

>>87392661
Coop's mistake is forgetting his love in favor of a new goal.

>He never catches Windom Earle after his first love is dead and moves on to the Blue Rose cases.
>He never returns to find out how's Annie and Harry, utterly obsessed with his quest to kill BOB and find Laura.
>He never returns to Janey-E and sends a tulpa in his stead.
>As soon as he crosses with Diane to the new reality, he doesn't attempt to find her again and help her remember the previous identity, seeking out Laura instead.

Cooper treated love as an instrument, which was his mistake. Which is why he sees THREE Cowboys when trying to rescue yet another damsel. He discards love as soon as he fulfills his goals in the search for Laura. He never asks about Annie or Harry because they are irrelevant to his quest now.

>>87392781
no

>>87391358

It explains the origin of Briggs getting the knowledge he has.

It’s sort of silly, but I do think the additional backstory for the log lady was very well done.

>WHAT YEAR IS THIS?

Why did Lynch write Coop to be a total fucking idiot? He seemed to have no idea why Richard was written on the letter, when he JUST used the memory of the Fireman saying "430" to him to reach the other world. And then he travels halfway across the country with absolutely no idea what he was actually doing. He realizes at the last minute that it isn't a different time, it's a different world, and he monumentally fucked up.

What a putz.

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>>87392775
LOL SARAH IS TOTALLY JUDY BUT LETS PUT HER FACE ON THE JUMPING MAN FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER

>>87392843
That's not her face.

>>87392821
he was losing his sense of identity in the new reality and falling into the role of Richard, thats why he acted off key and did things Cooper would never do.

>>87392703
>>87392753
There is nothing wrong with BOB being killed off easily. This is happened to every Twin Peaks villain as soon as the greater threat is introduced.

You might as well ask why Mister Eddie's threats in Lost Highway never go anywhere and Fred just beats the shit out of him as soon as he is "in tune" with Mystery Man and becomes the true villain himself... Which kinda makes me think that Cooper may end up becoming the same villain, as his efforts as a lodge-traveling "magician" only make things worse.

>>87392805
>Implying Watts didn't ride little Dougie like a champ
Dern wasn't even close in her riding skills.

>>87392821

Because he was becoming another Jeffries.

>>87392843
>implying Jumping man and Judy isn't one and the same

>>87392878
plebeian

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I watched original TP and FWWM a few years ago and it didn't have much emotional effect on me.

But after this season finale I can't stop thinking about the young Laura Palmer. I go to sleep only hoping I'll see her in a dream.

I feel painfully in love with Laura Palmer. What should I do?

>>87392912

I dunno, shit post about how CUTE she is I guess

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>>87392867
oh?

>>87392912
Drop the waifu, get a laifu.

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>>87392921
OK, I can do this. But she's not just cute, she's an archetype "corrupted angel" character. I feel giant empathy towards her. Poor Laura...

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>>87392949
That's literally Jumping Man's face.

>>87392949
Yeah, tell me where she's credited in this episode. Oh wait she isn't. It's just not her, she resembles her because the image is distorted but it's definitely not her.

I've been digesting my thoughts on The Return, here's what I think
The series feels less like a television series and more like we're checking in on this world after a long time of being away. Things are happening, some of which feels like we're joining in the middle of, like Steven & Becky. A lot of what is going on feels like business as usual for Twin Peaks. Initially, it's hard to give a shit about some of the characters in these subplots because we don't really get enough information about them, but then it kind of feels like these character were never really meant for you to feel for. It just feels like they exist in the story to show you that the same old shit is happening, and what you expect is going to happen in those situations is undoubtedly going to happen.

Cooper turning back to normal so he can handle Mr. C, and Mr. C getting the coordinates are definitely the meat & of the story. Everything else just feels like a consequence of peeking back in at this world at this time. When those side plots drop, they don't really matter to me anymore because I think I knew where they were headed.

But as for interpreting the ending, that's gonna take a while for me to process. My feelings on first viewing though was certainly something negative happen. I've seen Cooper as being someone in over his head often times. Sometimes it seemed like the lodge spirits were testing him, like with the coffee in the original series, to teach him not to fear.

>>87392661
The Doppelganger was the only one concerned with Annie. The true message of Twin Peaks is that real Cooper is actually the asshole.

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>>87392984
How do I do this? This summer my life finally had a meaning. I was living from Sunday to Sunday and it was great. Now the only thing that makes me feel good is the memory of Laura.

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>>87393047
OH?!?

>>87393047
did Frank Silva get credited in the episodes using his face?

>>87393091
N O T
S A R A H

>>87392775
Judy is described as both a force and an entity, which is confusing

>>87393103
Yes.

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>>Naido being reduced to a placeholder for Diane is another example of Lynch’s clumsy sidelining of non-white characters. In this case, she’s not even a character, but a symbol of a character.
- Emily L Stephens, AV Club

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It's been 48 hours and I'm still genuinely spooked by Sarah calling Laura, Laura screaming, and the power shutting down.

I can't remember the last time I was made afraid of the dark like this.

>>87393103
Yes. So did Sheryl for her face appearing vaguely in the intro of each part.

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Directed by
DAVID LYNCH

>>87392661

Honestly? One of the few complaints I have about the finale is that Diane should have been Annie.

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*record scratch freeze frame*

>>87393122
it's kind of true desu

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>tfw rewatching Dougie scenes
>tfw there will never be any more Dougiekino to fill my heart

>>87393122
>“Listen to me,” Gordon Cole tells his colleagues before a long, long pause. “Now, listen,” Dale Cooper instructs Gordon and Diane at that mysterious door at the Great Northern. “I am the arm and I sound like this,” the bulbous head of a flailing, flickering tree-or-limbic-system repeats to Dale Cooper in the Red Room. The sound of Twin Peaks is as crucial as the visuals. If you haven’t read Clayton Purdom’s examination of that sound, now is a perfect time to do it.

fucking hell some people really don't get it

>>87393047
imagine actually being this autistic and retarded

sends shivers down my spine.

>>87391275
i liked the book

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>>87393169
>Frost & Lynch announce a new show on showtime
>It's not a continuation of the main plot of Twin Peaks, but of the Dougie tulpa who accidentally becomes as stupid as Cooper was when he was Dougie by accidentally electrocuting himself

>>87392103
#FREAKY

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He's been officially accused now of brutally murdering his wife. He claims he's innocent and knows who did it, but can't say because it'll breach national security - However, he got word to Chris here that these items which he placed in his garden in Georgetown are the clues to the identity of the killer.

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Do you guys think there's any significance to the sound itself?

Disregard that reddit breakdown of what the sound may actually be, and think more of what it might represent, anybody have any theories?

It's a gramophone and it makes a clicking noise, when Leland killed Maddy a record player was stuck in a loop and we heard a similar noise.

>>87393192
>The Jumping Man, a spirit we know nothing about because he's never been referred to by anybody and has just been dancing in scenes and doing wacky shit, is possessing Sarah Palmer! What does it mean? WHO CARES! NOTHING! IT'S THE JUMPING MEME! I CRACKED TWIN PEAKS!
As far as we know, that scene could mean that the Jumping Man is informing Judy/Sarah that Booper went there.

>>87393251
THE CONGRESSMAN'S DILEMMA

Just watched the last two episodes last night. Episode 18 was a fucking Kino. Crying right now, hope there's season 4.

What theories do we have, bros?

Honestly guys, I'm ashamed for the awful person I was before I discovered the absolute genius that is Twin Peaks: The Return. My life has changed. Anyone experience something similar?

>>87393289
I'm starting to hate the word significance.

>>87393289
Axxon N, the longest radioplay in history.

>>87393334
yeS

tfw no one to rewatch the entire show with

>>87393334

Continuing tonight in the Baltic Region.

>>87393289
The Giant was just an Onkyo fan and has been getting Cooper into it over the last 25 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT734IoMMjY

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>>87393147
>>87392661
>meets Diane under the sycamore trees
>wakes up in bed the morning after spooky Lodge happenings and inquires into the state of Diane
It's so painfully obvious that Diane was inserted into Annie's role, because Lynch has a hard-on for Laura Dern, and he is a bitter autist who has never stopped resenting the network meddling in S2. He ruined what was otherwise a 10/10 masterpiece ending because of his pettiness and favoritism.

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>>87391949

it's so easy break down this meeting
2 - 5 - 3
easy

- 2 Coops
- 5 FBI agents (Coop, Cole, Desmond, Albert, Tammy)
- 2 worlds
- 3 as in "three" = free
- 3 arms on a clock (hour, minute, second)
- 2 (for Doppelgänger in general)
- 3 (eye) Candies
- 5 fingers on each hand
- 3 as in a tripod (Cole is hung, he said it himself)
- 2 + 3 makes 5 (Radiohead reddit orgasm)
- many sammiches (lucky we made so many!)

E to the motherfucking Z !

>>87393297
HER FACE IS LITERALLY ON HIS.

A FROGMOTH WITH HIS NOSE WENT INTO HER MOUTH WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.

How thick are you, honestly?

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>watch the pilot last night
>feel a crushing sense of despair at the sound of Sarah yelling "Laura!"
Watching the original series feels so different now. There's like a horrible foreboding that pervades even the most lighthearted scenes.

>>87391344

why are you so desperate to have all the answers? Are you even sure what questions were asked?

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Is Sneed Judy?

>>87393368
avant-teens in my /tpg/?!

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>>87393122
The Arm says: DAVID LYNCH HATES BLACK PEOPLE

>>87393318
Same.

Can someone explain to me the motel changing in episode 18?

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So when Cole, Cooper and Briggs made this plan to go after Judy it was doppelcoop right? or was it original coop and they made this plan during the events of season 2?

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>>87393429
Listen To The Sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTi0hom6r44

Dale/Dougie has two bosses
>Bushnell (aka David Lynch's painting teacher)
>Gordon Cole (aka a character in Sunset BLVD which was main inspiration for Lynch to start in filmmaking)

>>87393412
I think with this finale Lynch made us feel the same feeling of loss that Laura's family and friends had. Or the pain and despair the poor rape and home violence victim Laura felt. So the meaning of the finale is not the logical one, but rather emotional.

>>87393390
3 Cowboys.

>>87393460
He's stuck inside somebody else's story. Richard and Linda's

>>87393403
I didn't know Sarah Palmer was from New Mexico! (Hint: She isn't. She's not the girl in Part 8)

>>87393460
Sex seems to be associated with lodge activity in this season. Sam and Tracey summoned the Experiment in New York that way.

>>87391362
>le dream meme
It's the easiest fucking device in history. Plots make no sense? LOL it was all a dream! Retcon needed? It was a dream LMAO! Garbage dialogue? DREAM!!!

>>87393474
it was both doppel and original coop at the same time

>>87393318
Yep. Starting to think this was the biggest event in the history of the entire medium of film.

>>87392989
The eyes and the nose are completely different. Look at how you can see up the """Jumping """Man"""""""'s nostrils in the screencap, whereas the actor's nostrils are perpendicular to his face, and the former's eyes are VERY light, whereas the latter's are very dark.

>>87393514

But he already entered an alternate dimension when arriving at the motel when he drove 430 miles. Did he wake up in another dimension after that?

>Lynch literally hid two songs from his album The Big Dream in the sound design to hint that everything that was happening was taking place in a dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aUemgIFWfk

>>87393477
Rational Ecstasy

>>87393474
It will be in the book.

>>87391554
I thinks its really odd and spooky how you never once saw Sarah's face in this.

By that point onward what little of Sarah was left is gone from the moment she embraced Judy, and Judy is possessive of Laura. She was pissed off she was being taken away from her fate.

>>87393534
>It's the easiest
But it works.

P.S. Why am I getting THE SAME captch images each time? Am I stuck in some sort of loop?

>>87393542
That's racist.

>>87393555
The motel and the sex there were all parts of the reality-crossing process, along with shaking with electricity in the car. Watch Lost Highway.

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>>87393560
>mfw can't express myself because i'm a spectator in the society of spectacle

>>87393318

Something happened to me!

>>87393555
They accidentally had sex for 25 years.

>>87392912
Make season 4.

>>87393539
No shit. Of course it is. What we just witnessed has literally never happened before.

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>>87392557
>what Bob originally was
Judy (The Experiment) "gave birth" to BOB.

>sees herself in a painting
it's a photograph.

>The frogmoth has the nose of The Jumping Man
arguable assumption.

>her face is literally on him for fucks sake
So why does the boy ("fell a victim") above the convenience store wear the mask as well (jumping on the street)? These are two seperate characters.

>then The Jumping Man is the spirit that takes on the emotional turmoil of the victims they leave behind
wild speculation that doesn't have any base, but hey it's your interpretation.

>>87392661
priorities

------

Who is the man that Coop met in front of the glass box? (white suit, white hair, pony tail)

fact:
Audrey asked Charlie
>"Is it the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?"

The arm says the exact same phrase in E18 ...
>???

>pic related, is BOB in doggo form

>>87393598
No, anon, that won't help anyone.

>>87393587
so coop did all the giant wanted him to do
why does the end look so ominous then?
did the spirits betrayed cooper and fed him misinformation?

>>87393511
you got it, my friend

>>87393419
This is the seed
And this is the feed
Suck and fuck
And descend
The Sneed is the white of the eyes
And the Chuck within

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>chilling with friends
>put on Twin Peaks S3E18
>confront myself and my self (as an ontological historical entity) with the mirror of atonality (as a mirror is not an empathic but a reflexive entity, alien to the space and time it reflects and only existing by itself in relation to the other) and realize the boundaries of human thought, comprehension and consciousness
>reach rational ecstasy
>pleb friend gets up and says "why was there just a scene of them refuelling, lmao, put on season 1"
>get angry at their nostalgic subaltern consumption conditioned by the structures of power of the imperialist white economies, but contain it
>calm myself down by remembering quotes from finnegans wake, my favorite book since i was a teenager
>mfw can't express myself because i'm a spectator in the society of spectacle

"It is not the slumber of reason which engenders monsters, but vigilant and insomniac rationality. - Gilles Deleuze"

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I don't know if this was intentional, but the show truly has some amazing iconography.

spoiler: the eyebrows and clock make the same shape as the card

>>87393310
last scene was a dream

laura in 1989 is the dreamer

cooper asks what year is it

laura's mother calls out to her from the waking world

laura recognizes her mother's voice and realize she's dreaming

she screams and wakes up back in 1989 the morning they would have found her body had cooper not had changed the past

I can't watch anything else other than Kubrick or Lynch at this point.

Twin Peaks is stuck in my head atm.

For like six months straight I was obsessed with 2001 24/7.

Is there any other director who's work is worth giving a shot?

I'll help you conspiracy theorist beta cucks, no there isn't.

In episode 17, it's clear that Dale is trying to lead Laura Palmer back into the White Lodge.

However, when neutral Dale finds Carrie Page - he takes her to the house where she was repeatedly molested as Laura Palmer instead of the White Lodge...

Why not just take her to the White Lodge?

>>87393651
I think Judy and her spirits are tricking Cooper. Alice TREMOND living in a house previously owned by the CHALFONTS is clearly a symbol that Cooper is being tricked by lodge shenanigans. Remember that the Tremonds and the Chalfonts have the ability to replace the owners of a house (like they did with the neighbors of the autist who had Laura's diary pages, or the trailer in the Fat Trout Trailer Park in FWWM).
My take is that they're hiding Sarah so that she doesn't meet Laura.

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>>87393690
Windom Earle is inquestionably the best part of season two, simply because what enshrouds the Deleuzian representation of negation in “The Black Lodge” is by nature (W)indom (E)arle. We, the pure ample aspiration, the capital v-Viewer are held fantastically in a grip of pleasure as "solicitude", certainty as “knowingness” and “The Black Lodge” as ontological blockchain/godhead. TMFAP is absolute fact in opposition but the baroque villainy of WE's (and any Lovecraftian) the same sin to die “now” as on the path to Madness. The conditional “It” (DC) creates nothing in response, Earle's own humanity is reflected in his oeuvre of disguise-personalities. (performed) To WE (& the normative Cooper &Briggs) the Implacability of unsure sentiment is Earle’s selfenforcing principle, pleasure--simplicity. In Palmer, the reprised intelligences move towards psychosomatic transgression. WE's sickness is symptom & myth unlike the Palmer daughter his active agent is not important, but “normal” and yet pronouncedly considerable as such, bidding. “We a the, of not can he.” The subject of Earle is in an undiluted terrace viewed viewers become wrote wonders, noting nothing Indian anyhow in the Black Lodge (negation).

Then, there’s Earle, the something coupling with Lodge entities, (call it “force”, of what? of course: illusion. – by since And because of supremacy In ALL perceptions, (rare & cloistered the issue may be) what we then Now view as reality, IS,) [in WE's] subjection a full picture. In an open letter to Kenneth Welsh “Windom Earle” one asks to which if not to want introduction (Mark Frost) gigantic of up wrote run life, (MF) introduction, revelation, dreams, & value system, (MF,MF,DL,MF) ie. AS Windom Earle hAS in the Black Lodge. (the rudimentary transition in S2 of Windom A into form Windom B.) Perhaps to “comfyfags“ will greet these upon death, a paradoxical death for those who existence infects.

>>87393318
You're not alone my brother

>>87393708
Hideaki Anno

>>87393623
'Special Agent Dale Cooper never returned home.'

>>87391030
I this supposed to be Diane then?

>>87393636
Cooper made some sort of mistake, symbolized by THREE Cowboys.

I suspect Cooper's mistake relates to the fact that "love wasn't enough", per Major Briggs's prediction. Cooper used Diane's love to cross realities, but did not search for her as soon as he finally crossed and immediately went looking for Laura instead. Basically, I think he ran on Black Lodge juice (pain and sorrow) for too long, and while he held onto his identity as Cooper, his mannerisms changed, his smile and optimism gone, his love abandoned in pursuit of Laura Palmer. Just like he abandoned Annie, Harry and Janey-E beforehand, as soon as their love brought him closer to his goals.

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>>87393528
>tfw you will never accidentally summon any spooky lodge spirits because you're permavirgin
feels good man

>>87393695
See this one seems really simple and my heart says this is the logical end...but what does that mean. Laura got a nice ending in fire walk with me, he'd be sending her back to a miserable life. Which I can accept as being the reason she screams, making this a sort of dark ending, but it seems too...simple? Like the big knife twist at the end being coop just forgot laura had a miserable life and says oh shit whoops

Jeffries tells cooper he will find judy at the date 23 Feb 1989.. who is judy?

>>87393722

As far as I'm concerned, I think the Chalfont-Tremond thing is a way of erasing places and things from the real world.

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Jesse is the dreamer, only it's a daydream, not a dream during sleep. Why do you think he's always staring off into space all the time?

One great and glorious day /tpg/ will be nothing but copypasta day after day in an endless loop.

>>87393692

noice

>>87393787
James

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>>87393690
>>87393725
these posts struck me as funny

I hate people who write pretentious dissertations on Twin Peaks saying
>Judy 'ching chong' 尿屎 'to explain"
It's fucking annoying. It's like the Twin Peaks symbol brekaing into 708. No it fucking doesn't.

>>87393755
does that have anything to do with my post?
I don't see it.

>>87393692
Interesting find, thanks.

>>87393806
He's thinking about his car.

>>87393808
8 proves it.

>>87393829
>brekaing

>"ching chong"
yeah dude, like Gordon Cole didn't give that exact explanation in E17 ... right, it's "dissertation bs" ... you are a good boy.

>>87393710
because the Cooper ego was being replaced by the Richard ego

>>87393692
A lot of things do that shape. It's a very fucking simple shape. At least this one isn't as retarded as the electric tower though.

>>87393829
I was kind of surprised in 2017 that post actually got upvoted. It's relatively common knowledge at this point that chinese/japanese can have multiple meanings and readings and just hearing a word out loud and saying "hey it means X!!!" is a really dumb thing to do.

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>>In Twin Peaks: The Entire Mystery bonus feature, "Moving Through Time: Fire Walk with Me Memories", actor Carlton Lee Russell says, "David told me that my character was this talisman come to life." The footage shifts from his interview to that of Mrs. Tremond's grandson hopping around like a bird outside the Hotel.

>>talisman, noun:
1.
a stone, ring, or other object, engraved with figures or characters supposed to possess occult powers and worn as an amulet or charm.
2.
any amulet or charm.
3.
anything whose presence exercises a remarkable or powerful influence on human feelings or actions.

>>87393636
he forgot that he had to cross back over, for him trying to remember what happened before he woke up in that bed is like trying to remember the exact sequence of events in a dream you woke up from, the longer hes there the less well he can remember it and eventually its all gone.

>>87393866
Yes, which is why I'm not saying that it was totally intentional. But it's still really cool, even if accidental

>>87393854
Gordon said Jowday, these guys are saying "jiao dé" or some shit like that. Phonetics in chinese and in english are very fucking different, and the "to explain" they're trying to force just doesn't fit with what Gordon said.
It's basically what >>87393877 says. You can fit Jowday in a fucking plethora of characters that sound similar to it and pretend that's what it means. But that's not how Chinese works.

>>87393762
m8...

I don't want another season because it's just impossible to make it any better Same with The Young Pope.

>>87393930
For what it's worth, you're also really cool.

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>>87393909

>>87393828
you're either using atonality as a metaphor, or ur using it wrong, biatch.

other than that, kek.

>>87393877
Surprised? Seriously? Reddit isn't about factual accuracy. It's a popularity contest. 9 times out of 10 the most upvoted comment to a theory is a mom joke based on it and it demeans the theory. Even an AMA with Lynch wouldn't go to waste, because they'd ask all the wrong questions.

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Was she talking about Lynch?

>>87393695
nice

>>87393932

Lynch can't even say the German word "Mädchen" properly.
Why the fuck should he pronounce a chinese word correctly?

>>87393762
SHE'S MY MOTHER'S SISTER'S GIRL (COUSIN)

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the best part of season 3 was the smoking babbies

these girls are so fucking hot, the one that gets molested by rich is so fucking cute wtf. what was her name again?

also candie

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>>87393909
That was my connection I pointed out yesterday, mate! thief!

>>87393983
Yes, it was a very clear attempt by Lynch to dispel any intrigue around that claim. No rapist would put themselves in the same scene as someone crying rape. Unless you're Lynch.

>>87393973
Basically this. They will upvote what sounds cool instead of what is accurate/makes sense. Pretending that Judy is a meta commentary on how the show is written, or that the Owl's Cave symbol breaks down into 708 sound cool. That doesn't mean they're true. But they'll get upvoted, they'll get more visibility and people will start believing they're true.

>>87393995
I can't even begin to fathom how fucking stupid is this reasoning.

>>87393995
so if we believe that he pronounced the word incorrectly then there are even more possible interpretations of "jow day" you fucking retard

>>87394025
>intrigue around that claim
???

>>87394021
That seems like a dangerous thing to have on the wall at a brawlin' bar.

>>87394022

You guys are both mentally challenged, desu.

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>>87393952

>>87394078
its clearly intentional like the horse and the tremond / chalfont

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There was a white horse at Judy's too.

>I'm supposed to arrange a date with a chinese guy for today.
>Instead I'm looking for multiple chinese words that can be pronounced as "jiade".
I'm really fucking stupid.

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>>87394096

This is how I imagine you.
Surely I can't be far from the truth.

>>87393866
Where has that card appeared again? I forget.

>>87394041
He even has it as a running gag to wrongly pronounce "Kyle" and other actors names and refuses to do it correctly.

What's your problem with the consistency of jiao dé meaning "scream" in chinese? Sarah screams like a fucking dying animal, Laura screams all the fucking time, screaming is a major element in general in TP.

>>87394078
because you fail to draw connections? lmao
DESU DESU DESU in my honest opinion

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>>87394096
we're watching all the streetlights fade
and now you're just a strangers dream
i took your picture from a frame
and though you're nothing like you seem
your shadow fell like last nights rain

>>87394138
>>87394022
>>87393909
absolute autism. Go outside. Not everything in a film is planted by a director.

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>>87394158
>Lynch wouldn't make a film with two different realities linked by dreams
>Lynch wouldn't put loads of little references to each reality inside of the other

>>87394176
Oh look, it's one of THOSE Anons again.

I kinda wish we'd seen more than 5 seconds of The Arm's doppelganger.

>>87391861
top lel

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>>87394176
>David Lynch
>Not a director who has repeatedly embraced coincidences in filming
>Not a director who, even if he didn't intend to put a white horse in that shot, would like the fact that there was one there and consider it a part of the film worth paying attention to

NEVER STOP LYNCHING

>>87394234
>>87394234
>>87394234

>>87394213
You're literally acting like Lynch intentionally put a fucking Lamp and a tree next to each other in his shot as a reference to other things. Get a fucking grip.

>>87394176
yeah right, it's just a big conincidence that the shot ends with several seconds of the cut tree and the lamppost while the car is clearly out of the shot already. and, of course, David Lynch never plants any abstract hints in his works.

you fail to make your own conclusions and the best you can do is insult people, who can actually point such things out to others. lmao what a waste are.

>>87394249
You're literally assuming there's only one poster in this thread. Even I think the lamp is a fucking stretch. Get a fucking grip and go breath some clean air outside for awhile.

>>87394249
he did, you're just too retarded to get it

>>87394236
you are legitimately autistic and crazy. Seek therapy. David Lynch didn't put that Tree and Lamp in the ground like you're acting to make reference to other things that are in the show. They've obviously been there for years.

>>87394249
literally literally literally
>>87394293
you're literally a retard, how's that?

he doesn't need to PLANT that there. it's enough for him to have seen the lamppost on the sight and just use it the way it is.
BOB was introduced as a character exactly the same way, you complete utter idiot! It was an accident! He loves "happy accidents" in his work. Are you totally daft? What's your problem?

>>87394303
and he has always included coincidences in his filmmaking process you fucking retard, go and read about Frank Silva accidentally being in the mirror and such. If the location he was filming in had something that resembled the arm (which it did) and he noticed it (which he probably did since he pointed his camera directly at it and put it in the show) then you can bet your fucking dick he would use it in the show.

anyone has the music that plays while the homeless guys resurrect bad cooper after being shoot? that bass music is fucking haunting

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>tfw you fuck up on a COSMIC scale

My interpretation

Saying Judy or the Lodge spirits tricked Cooper, or that Cooper in the end failed is problematic. The problem with this interpretation is it turn Twin Peaks into a Gnostic universe, which I don't think is right. It is essentializing the mythology which imo is more of a parallel to psychic fantasies for the characters. Judy (the mother of all evil) is entirely a red herring, and so is the black/white lodge distinction (as correctly you point out). Just like with BOB, Judy is the name we give to the unspeakable evil men do (rape,killing one's own blood and the Atom bomb). Also the Black Lodge is the realm of dreams and uninhibited pure desire, the white lodge which is the neutralization of all desire is the afterlife, a realm of no conflict and exist in pure serenity. Concerning Coops quest, it is not accurate to say nothing has changed, Coop cannot change Laura Palmer's death in FWWM, but he can go on a whole other universe. What Coop is doing is looping between universes in e18, different universes=different dreams , we all live inside a dream makes sense if we take it be an endless parallel world sequence, Coop in that universe becomes Richard, Diane and Linda, Laura becomes Carrie and so on (hence ∞ ). But Dreams even if they are parallel worlds we dream up they all have a fundamental structure based on desire, repression and disavowal. Coop did erase Laura's death but did not erase the psychic structure that is elemental in all infinite Lauras.

Also, remember the Giant, "Richard and Linda , two birds with one stone" , Richard is in this parallel world/dream is uninhibited Coop he is Id (mr. C), Ego (Dougie) and super-ego (Coop), altogether. Diane as Linda is the woman he can never have but desires, she is the femme-fatale in this noire structure (similar to Arquette in Lost Highway), without her as a goal, Richard is on a Quixotic quest to save the woman in trouble he was never able to save.

cont.

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LEGITIMATELY AUTISTIC AND CRAZY

>>87393169
is that Nahaz from dota 2?

>>87394344
https://youtu.be/daRkxAJIwGc

>>87394344
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata

extremely slowed down

>>87394366
exactly

>>87394303
read this >>87394366
you uncreative, reluctanct pleb cunt

step down from your stupid denial schtick before it's too late, you complete joke.

>>87394401
holy shit is actually a piano and its fucking bethoven lmao fucking lynched

>>87394362

cont.

Richard saves Laura, because that is his dream and conjures a parallel world where she is alive. But in the Lynchian universe the dreamworld is never perfect and is always ready to breakdown into a nightmare when the desire for liberation/desire short circuits or drives into a wall.Chalfont and Tremont connection is the dream breaking down , it's seeing behind the curtain the Wizard of Oz. Lauras fate can change but not what she IS or what she will always be ("she is the one" i.e. never controlled by an evil force, but destined suffer under it, because of her mother and father. )

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I did think 2 timelines was the credible explanation for Cooper's last scene.

>Coop gets sent back to save Laura
>Laura is saved by Coop and taken away from inevitable death
>Timeline is saved
- life continues as normal
- Sarah Palmer's demon stuck in human form
>But older Coop and Texan Laura are now stuck in the timeline they were in initially

>>87394820
if it is a different time line and Sarah became this woman, why would he want to show her the Palmer-house? Did she lose her memory when she was sucked away in the forrest?
Was that shot of Lee sitting on the sofa in a nice evening dress planted to spread wrong conclusions?

>>87394922
Because they were two different entities. The old Laura in the forest and her tulpa in Odessa that Cooper found and tried to reawaken.

>>87395330
A tulpa is created in the red room the way we saw how the new Dougie-Coop was created ...

how and why would there be a Tulpa of Laura, as she is sucked away? If you make these kind of assumptions, you need to think a little further.

>>87394401
ultimate vaporwave

>>87393623
but the tremonds (IE, the boy with the pointy nose mask) literally lived in Sarah's house in the alt reality. All the jumping man motifs converge there. It's not asking too much brain power to work it out.