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*Record Scratch* You're Probably Wondering How I Ended Up Like This Edition

https://pastebin.com/mcKYsFib

Previously: >>87391008
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Lil a qt
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>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv history
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>>87394239
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>>87394234
>https://pastebin.com/mcKYsFib

What's "Croatia may-may"?
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The ending was very kafkaesque.
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So basically Dougie fucked two sisters.
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it was intentional
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OP is a faggot
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https://ozba.wordpress.com/2017/08/31/twin-peaks-audrey-billy-and-living-inside-a-dream/

Thoughts lad?
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>>87394336
idk I found it pretty funny
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>>87394239
It is happening again.
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dubs and bowie shows up next episode
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>>87394400
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>>87394400
nice
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>>87394173
>What's your problem with the consistency of jiao dé meaning "scream" in chinese?
What I'm against is "jiao dé" meaning "to explain", meaning that the NEGATIVE FORCE is explaining things and that nothing should be resolved.
The thing is that "jiaode" can mean a lot of things. It can also mean "Angle", for example. And if we're being strict, "Jowday" can be transcribed in a lot more ways other than "jiaode" because of how their phonetics work. We can also imagine it's suposed to be "juédé", which means "to feel". Deep, huh?
It becomes even wider if we accept that Gordon can't pronounce shit. If he says "Kale" when he tries to say "Kyle", how the fuck are we supposed to know what he's trying to say when he pronounces "Jowday"? We don't even know if it's Chinese, for fuck's sake.
To me it feels like people are trying to force that ambiguous word into what meaning sounds cooler, not unlike how people choose what their name means in Chinese.
Dale Cooper (戴尔 库珀 Dài'ěr Kùpò) means "wear like so the amber library". DEEP, HUH?
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>people think it was a bad ending
Lynch just shot it that way. He focused on the negatives because that's his style. Laura is alive and still in bed when Sarah is calling her on that morning in the pilot when she's already dead. Coop is probably erased from existence, but he did it stop Laura from dying in the first place.

And don't say "oh yeah what a great ending, waking up and your father is on top of you again." BOB was destroyed and never exists in the new timeline, probably Judy as well. But that's uninteresting to Lynch, so we don't see any of it.
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ONE

ONE

NINE
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bobe
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More on Cooper's Mistake. What went wrong if he followed the Fireman's instructions?

Answer: he trusted MIKE and thus spread the Fire. When MIKE excitedly recited the Fire Walk With Me poem, he initiated Cooper into the ranks of the "magicians", who operate through lodgespace to actively enact their will upon the dream.

Instead of restoring his identity to 100% through context clues like he did as "Dougie", thus achieving total Dale Cooper happiness (which he also transferred to us, the viewers), Dale instead held onto his Dale Cooper identity while losing things that defined it. It is why Diane does not recognize him anymore, and also why the whole atmosphere seems somehow bleaker, even though nothing nightmarish is happening, compared to the main Twin Peaks reality, which is now rampant with wormholes, woodsmen, zombie kids and drug addicts.

Cooper forgot what made him Cooper, abandoned love and thus is at a risk of being stranded in a reality that is no longer about the girl that lived down the lane. Laura hearing her name in the end gives some hope though.
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>>87394443
huh........rly maeks u tihnk
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>>87394356

Twin Peaks is Lynch dreaming. The actors are people he knows in his real life.

Called it.

You saw it here first, folks.
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>>87394400
>>87394433
>>87394437

Well now
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>>87394356
Who gives a shit?

They're trying to explain a plot line with an ambiguous end without trying to explain the thematic significance. You aren't ever going to get an "canon" answer, so rather, ask how does this fit into what David Lynch was trying to accomplish with season 3.
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>>87394327
the pleb cunt 87394303 who denies the connection should definitely off himself.
yeah you, if you read this, find the nearest bridge (those are the things you fail to identify in the CAPTCHA, you blind pig) and jump off of it.
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>>87394400
>>87394433
>>87394466
Call for help.
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can't wait for next weeks episode. so excited to see what happens with richard and carrie wherever they are
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>>87394533
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>>87394443
>Dale Cooper (戴尔 库珀 Dài'ěr Kùpò) means "wear like so the amber library"
Damn... This actually explains a lot.
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>>87394447

How was Bob destroyed if time was changed to the point Cooper would never have arrived?

It makes no sense. Time travel makes no sense. Cooper failed, that's why Laura vanished.
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So basically, "who is the dreamer" is this series equivalent of "who killed Laura Palmer"
only this time, we're never going to get the answer, like was the original series plan. I wouldn't be surprised if what Laura whispered in Coopers ear was the actual answer. But I don't think Lynch & Frost actually have an answer for it cause they don't need one.
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>>87394447
>Lynch just shot it that way. He focused on the negatives because that's his style
Counter-argument: Inland Empire.
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>>87394542
Anon, I...
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8 episodes of dougie, episodes 9-10 replaced by the finale, then 8 episodes of that
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>>87394547
Let's post this on Reddit so that they start doing more crappy theories.
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>>87394443
lmao you got a point. But still, you can resort to what Cole says:

"an extreme negative force, called in olden times 'jao dey'"

Cole's "jao dey" = an entity, an extreme negative force

period. everything else, including what it could come from (not even necessarily chinese) is interpretation.
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>>87394447
I want to believe, but it just doesn't line up with how dismal everything else seems. All the death, cancer, dementia and horror. Why would Lynch want us to feel so lost and scared like Cooper if it wasn't a bad end?

And it's not the first time we heard Sarah calling out for Laura. We got that scene when Gordon was in the hotel.

And we're not even sure Laura goes back on with her life. She was torn away when Cooper tried to save her. Same as in the Lodge. The question is, what's pulling her away, because that's what probably happened at the end too.
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>>87394512
I don't think he was trying to accomplish anything. He just had some ideas, and the money and talent was there. I highly doubt anything we saw in the new season differs from what David Lynch probably daydreams about everyday. Mark Frost probably stuck it together into the semi-cohesion we saw. Lynch could continue Twin Peaks indefinitely if he really wanted, but it wouldn't make a lick of sense to anyone. In the end it would bleed into everything else he's done.
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>>87394552
I think the idea is that lodge entities (mother/bob/coop/tremonds) are higher beings that exist consistently throughout time and space so future/past stuff doesn't really effect them. For what's it's worth i agree with you and have cooled on the series now that it's timeline stuff. i still liked it and happy to have seen something like it though.
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Does David Lynch just get a hard on every time Laura starts screaming? I'm starting to think that that might be the only reason why Twin Peaks exists.
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>>87394486
>"magicians", who operate through lodgespace to actively enact their will upon the dream.

that's a bit too far out there, if you ask me.

Evil forces won't just watch as he creates an environment that is a good compromise to having Laura killed in that original timeline. They jeopardize his attempt by replacing the Palmer house / owners or kicking him into a different year altogether ("What year is this?").
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>>87394646
Jao Dey = The Scream
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>>87394646
I thought I was the only one.
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>>87394239
>didn't get the first post
S L I P P I N G
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>>87394502
lmao

Twin Peaks S3 is Lynch trying to continue a series he has down a little over 25 years ago, which includes a lot of riddles, surreal moments, stolen references from art history and a little bit of original content. Frost and Lynch originally wanted to tell the story of why Marylin Monroe was killed by the Kennedy clan, but they digressed ... A LOT.
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>>87394681
NO

-->>>87394603
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What if we didn't get Lynched but FROSTED?
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>>87394733
Pfff, like that invalidates anything.
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>>87394734
It's frostbitten newfag
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>>87394744
I bet you call Grinman "Cockmongler" too.
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i can't believe lynch actually managed to top s2e29
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>>87394734
The Final Dossier will be the Frosting
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so what's the consensus on when coop actually saw the fireman in the opening scene? post Jeffries, pre saving Laura? similar fades on him.
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WE
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>>87394781
You mean the icing.. the icing on the lynchcake.
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SARAH IS NOT JUDY FOR FUCKS SAKE.

This has to stop. The Frogmoth is not Judy, how does that make any sense? The frogmoth has the nose of The Jumping Man and we saw that in Sarah when she took her face off.

The portal they step through when they go meet Jeffries, the room with the wallpaper, this the home of the Palmer's. It is the dream Laura had in the movie, she sees herself in a photo and steps into it, it's their home but a twisted version of it.

When we enter that place, both times in The Return, we see The Jumping Man, this is Sarah in her home, her grief and pain manifested through the intense turmoil we see in The Jumping Man, her face is literally on him for fucks sake, could it be more clear than that? It's as if he's stuck playing over the events of her death, in a constant state of total despair.
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>>87394739
>>87394681

pff, like that is the definitive answer.
why don't you write Lynch a fan mail with
"I got it, Mr. Lynch! It's definitely chinese, isn't it! It's definitely the explanation that I insist on!"
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>>87394811
>>87392557
>what Bob originally was
Judy (The Experiment) "gave birth" to BOB.

>sees herself in a painting
it's a photograph.

>The frogmoth has the nose of The Jumping Man
arguable assumption.

>her face is literally on him for fucks sake
So why does the boy ("fell a victim") above the convenience store wear the mask as well (jumping on the street)? These are two seperate characters.

>then The Jumping Man is the spirit that takes on the emotional turmoil of the victims they leave behind
wild speculation that doesn't have any base, but hey it's your interpretation.
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three days and I don't think I've seen any scenes with vedder's face superimposed over them. what a fucking disgrace this thread is,
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So was it a dream or multiple universes?
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>>87394811
you keep copypasting your shit

>>87394851
I think it's because the people with shit humor have left.
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>>87394239
What the hell are you talking about? Twin Peaks has some awesome set design. That's not lifeless at all!
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>>87394811
if sarah was jumping man she would have known about bob. next.
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What would Lynch say if I was to contact him via social media and just say

>Come on man, just give me all the answers to Twin Peaks

Maybe he would be

>Oh fuck it, he did dare to ask, I might as well tell him everything
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>>87394881
sub 50 IQ
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>>87394890
anon you are clearly incorrigibly left-brained
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>>87394871
what's this from? this looks kino as fuck
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>>87394825
>like that is the definitive answer.

I'm gonna scream if you don't stop putting implications in my keyboard.
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>>87394820

top kwestions about E18

if it is a different time line and Sarah became this woman, why would he want to show her the Palmer-house? Did she lose her memory when she was sucked away in the forrest?
Was that shot of Lee sitting on the sofa in a nice evening dress planted to spread wrong conclusions?

>>87394940
jao dey right away, faggot. if it makes you feel better.
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Man, rewatching the pilot, you guys remember these two barking like animals? Like the two in the cell this season.
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>>87394917

Must be the reason I'm conservative and a passionate monarchist.
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Sheryl Lee
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>>87394978
Bob's the man
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How's Annie?
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>>87394894
sub 30 IQ
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>>87394985
thanks for sharing that
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>>87394990
THIS ISN'T FUCKING MIKE
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>>87394894
>The frogmoth has the nose of The Jumping Man
no it doesn't. normal proboscis of million bugs.
>we saw that in Sarah when she took her face off.
no we didn't. jumping man's nose is T H I C C.

sarah may be bug but not jumping man. try to keep up son.
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>>87395009
sub 1 IQ
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Just finished watching the finale.

WTF was her problem?
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>>87395034
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>>87395050
just imagine how many lads
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>>87394871
source?!
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Consider the following:

>Jeffries says "this is where you'll find Judy" before showing him the owl symbol breaking apart so that the twin peaks (black and white lodges) form an infinity symbol and a ball is rotated then returns to its starting position
>it's a trajectory of time and shows that Earth has a parallel of itself where Judy is located
>when Coop and Diane travel in the car it switches from day to night because they've jumped into the parallel universe
>Coop remembers who he is but Diane becomes Linda because she was essentially luggage when they crossed over
>this is the doppelganger universe where Mr. C and all the other doppelgangers came from, and his real name was Richard
>Richard and Linda were polar opposites of Coop and Diane, right down to their sexual behavior (Rich/Linda like it rough which is why Rich ended up raping Diane and why Linda was gripping Coop's face, then left because she felt like their love was gone)
>Rich crossed to Coop's world while Coop was in the black lodge and Coop did the same, which is why they weren't merged into one person
>Rich raped Audrey to create Richard Horne who was born a sociopath because he is the product of cross dimensional sex: he has no doppelganger
Rich's true goal was "wanting" Judy because he wanted to collapse Coop's world (the world we've seen thus far) and return to his because he had a similar love for Linda
>Coop inadvertently achieved what Rich was trying to do within a few hours and collapsed Rich's world to save Laura

I could keep going but I'm starting to see holes in my own theory.
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>>87395050
She realised that she was Annie all the time
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>>87395050
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>>87395018

No probs mate!

Just wanted to point out my British superiority while I'm already here is all.

As Macbeth said to Hamlet in A Midsummer Night’s Dream, “We’ve been done up like a couple of kippers”
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>>87395065
that pic is ju dah, an ancient extreme negative force
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Was this ever explained? I missed the scene where Laura became a burn victim.
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>>87395050
>It Ain't Me starts playing
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391

Keep the poll alive
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>>87395050
Is she a good actress or does she just scream well?
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>>87394854
it's the same goddamn thing to lynch
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ITT niggas who still don't understand Lynch was trying to define then break a sort of fifth wall. It's new and obviously rich territory to try and explore. This was a show about a show that people used to watch a long time ago and a show about the people that are watching it now. Theoryfags trying to deconstruct just what happened in the story are sort of looking in the wrong direction. Criticaltheoryfags trying to deconstruct how the show interacted with nostalgia, expectation and the nature of broadcast television itself seem far closer to the truth here.
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I'm gonna be real here and say that I legitimately think Frost & Lynch just threw a bunch of shit together, unfinished ideas, red herrings and made a tv show out of it. I don't think there is anything to figure out, I think it's all just random stuff they threw at the wall they were hoping people would make sense for them. I think Frost & Lynch couldn't come up with anything solid, so they just said fuck it. They're both probably secretly laughing at everyone trying to figure it out.
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>>87395157
She looks like some Hitchcock blonde.
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>>87395202
I mean, couldn't that just be a way of expanding on a theme? Theme dictates structure and style.
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>>87395221
the resemblence is truly striking.
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>>87395202
red herrings = blue roses

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>>87394761
he was always cockmongler
always
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>>87395221
WHAT did Lynch mean by this!!!
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>Catch you in my death bag
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>>87394447
>>87394562
& Dune, Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, Straight Story. . .
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I already miss Harry Dean.
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>>87394677
I think he jeopardized himself. The new reality, according to Jeffries, was where he'd "find Judy". He was so concentrated on the Laura/Judy mission that he forgot that using Black Lodge magicks is based on pain and suffering. He walks with the Fire, instead of removing it like the Fireman.

Like Fred in Lost Highway, Cooper outright joins the forces of Fire to enact his mission, forgetting that this Fire is what led to all the troubles from the beginning. He cannot complete the Fireman's mission when he himself is corrupted.
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>>87395311
top kek
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>>87394881
Just like Bob was to Leland, Jumping Man is to Sarah.

It's part of her, but she isn't him.
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>>87395265
For fuck’s sake…
Alright, Word Of Power time. It’s Grinman. Always has been, always will be. Not Cockmongler. I’m not saying this towards the trolls who’ve flooded this thread with Cockmongler shit – they’ve no hope already. I’m saying this for your benefit – the Anonymous onlooker. You may be new and know nothing about this yet, or you may be old and just plain ignorant. But it’s not Cockmongler. It started a few months ago, and it’s everywhere. Take it from me. It’s Grinman. You don’t have to believe me, but I recommend that you do. If you don’t, just keep it in the back of your head…the last flickering candle of truth. He’s the Grinman. Not Cockmongler.
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I have a theory. What if Cooper was a therapist trying to help all the crazies at Twin peaks? he goes into hypnosis sessions with his patients.
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>>87395202
I agree.
Lynch looks at film like music or paintings.
They don't have objective meanings, they reflect an abstract emotion for the audience to determine.
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>>87395348
I enjoy seeing 10+ year old memes kept alive. It's a good feel.
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>>87395304
>900 years old
>Smoked most of his life
>has more hair than you
>has no arthritis or noticable health issues.
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>>87395377
reddit
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>>87395321
>When this kind of fire starts, it is very hard to put out. The tender bows of innocence burn first, and the wind rises, and then all goodness is in jeopardy.
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>>87394854
Dreams = alternate realities. The dream, the reality and the supernatural are all intertwined. There is no "true" reality. Realizing that you are inside a dream may give you dream/reality-warping powers.

Lynch has been telling this same story in his every product since Lost Highway.
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>>87395400
please dont be mean to monkey theorists
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Did BOB get worse ending than Windom?

>Get erased from existence by an evil entity which you foolishly thought you could understand and control

vs.

>Get punched do death by a minor character
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>>87395377
WE ALL LIVED INSIDE A ZOO
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>>87395440
It's Lynch's commentary on how everyone thinks a hero will solve everything. It probably didn't really even go down.
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>>87395400
obsessed
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>>87395321
between all your gibberish, I find the connection "Fire - Fireman" really intruiging. As obvious as it was, I never thought of it! lmao ... Fire walk with me ... Fireman ... another thing !
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>>87395500
But it's my first time posting that. Why, do you get that often?
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>Kyle didn't tweet since the episode 18

HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHA

LYNCHED SO HARD EVEN MAIN ACTOR GETS LYNCHED
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>>87395090
>Coop did the same, which is why they weren't merged into one person
Or were they? Cooper in the new reality holds onto his identity as "Special Agent Dale Cooper", but his mannerisms and actions are more like a merge of Good Dale and Mr. C.
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>>87395520
He's been talking about it in interviews you hairy homo.
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>>87395515
Wasn't even me who posted the pic. It's just annoying that the people who moan about 'reddit theories' are the only ones who even bring up reddit. It's like you are obsessed with reddit.
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>>87395520
He's a little busy. You wouldn't know what that's like I'll wager.
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Ah yes, Mark Frost Novels. The Pioneering and Very Creative evolution of Twin Peaks. My favourite Stories that did away With Pretentious David Lynch. My Shitty Ass Hole. Subscribe to My You Tube for good Twin Peaks Fan Theories with Break Core Music.
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>>87395362
only legitimate answer to agree on in here.

I'm planting this bullshit pic to make a point. Let's creative bullshit screenshots everyone! That's just as helpful as all the interpretation quarrels on here, lmao!

seriously thouhh, i love it, lot's of good ideas in here. keepitup.
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>>87395337
but Leland knew bob and he bled through his actions. ain't never seen sarah leap, my man.
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>>87395560
Can't be obsessed if I referenced it once. I was referring to the image itself anyway. I see reddit is testy today.
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>>87395170
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13870391
>people voting episode 18

I didn't realise there were so many Twin Peaks fans who hate Twin Peaks.
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>>87394234
I thought getting Coop back would have something to do with Hawk's heritage, what happened with that?
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>>87395520
he probably fell into a deep hole.

>>87395459
best punchline so far.
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>>87395583
yea right, where's le cherry pie, mr Lynch???
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>>87395567
I still can't comprehend the red wig nonsense.
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>>87395567
"draw the line" haha
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>>87395590
the map?
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>>87395197
You mean like Episode 17 had a reunion of old characters and the end of BOB plot from the old Twin Peaks, while Episode 18 was about Cooper trying to cling to the "story of the girl who lived by the lane" ("Is it?" - asks the Evolved Arm) while already crossed into a new story of Richard, Linda and their world (sort of like reverse Lost Highway, where Pete wanted to stay in his new life, but ended up embracing his darkness and going back to being Fred), right?
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>>87395590
He found the missing pages because he saw Nez Perce on the bathroom stall door. I think that was it, really.
Oh, and maybe his magical map.
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>>87394258
>Twin Peaks is science fiction

Who would think that? Seriously?
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>>87395635
You obviously are blind to the fact it's in the same genre as X-Files.
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>>87395618
Some people like wearing wigs.
Maybe it has no further meaning.
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>>87395652
But X-Files isn't even scifi. It's paranormal fiction.
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>>87395583
sentimental fags btfo
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>>87395635
people who make up theories about alternate timelines and other science fiction nonsense
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>>87395667
Uh huh.
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>>87395618
red wig means she is definitely from the red room.
my best guess, lol.

I actually would have loved if Diane was a Tulpa all through out her entire existence, period. Meaning, she was a fabrication by Cooper. He basically talked to himself on the tapes, same as Laura would write "dear diary", adressed to no one specifically. That way, Diane would have come into existence by pure thought, through Cooper.
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>>87394443
>It can also mean "Angle"
must be why Laura's doppelganger made this gesture with her hands then
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>>87395635
Mark Frost
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>>87395618
The Wildcard
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>>87395652
Aliens =/= Sci-fi
X-files is a mystery show first and foremost, it just has some sci-fi elements
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>>87395699
To what does that refer?
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>>87395202
See, it's not that Episode 18 is too hard to comprehend. All the clues were finally used, all the mistakes Coop still made are somewhat apparent, his mission regarding Laura is understandable.

It's that it doesn't feel like a true ending. Frost even agreed that it's the beginning of a new mystery.
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>>87395678
I think she doesn't really like wearing the wig ...
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>>87395714
Frost just wants an excuse to write The Extended Mystery of Twin Peaks
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>>87395708
In Lynch films a blonde haired woman symbolizes innocence, damsel in distress types. A brunette is a more mysterious femme fatale type. Redheads are The Wildcard.
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>>87395583
fans are cancer
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>>87395732
2020, Frost still writes books on it.

"The secret secrets of the secrets previously uncovered from Twin Peaks, 29 years later"

milking that franchise like the church does with the bible.
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>>87394811
>Sarah=JM
Imagine having this shitty interpretation
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>>87395608
>yea right, where's le cherry pie, mr Lynch???

First of all, fuck you. We all know if this entire season was fan service most of you would be all over it screaming bravo Lynch.

Second, was there a lot of le cherry pie in episode 17? Is showing Twin Peaks characters in Twin Peaks fanboy pandering?

You would rather the sterile dull tone of episode 18? Fine - you can have that but that shit ain't Twin Peaks.
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>>87395739
But DoppelDiane was blonde and she was a kunt
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>>87395778
He's right though.
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The way Part 18 kept dragging on and eventually leading nowhere made me think that maybe Part 17 was supposed to be the true ending of the series. It ends with Coop losing Laura and being put into a similar situation as the beginning of the series: Laura is missing (or dead) and Coop has to investigate. That's the purpose of his character. And then Part 18 happens, which I thought felt more like an epilogue. What happens when Coop finds Laura and tries to save her? Do you really what to know? Do you have to know? That's the impression Part 18 gave me, as if Lynch was trying to finish something that didn't really need finishing. It ends badly.
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>>87395792
no, she had Marie Antoinette syndrome
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>>87395788
>but that shit ain't Twin Peaks
Whoa, we got Twin Peaks expert here. He knows what's up better than original creators.
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>>87395788
Sterile is the last word I would use to describe episode 18. Sorry for you if you didn't get it.
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>>87395221
I keep dreaming about this moment now and it's fucking my sleep up
I woke up thinking today about what if Coop actually suddenly forgot where he was and who he was at that moment, did a weird Dougie pose and asked what year it was
there are too many damn implications
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>>87395583
17 is for Twin Peaks "fans."
18 is for Lynch fans.
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>>87395502
What gibberish?

Fire - symbolizes the evil "magic" of BOB and MIKE based on pain, suffering and hedonism derived from such. Aside from Twin Peaks, fire is also where the cabin of Mystery Man comes from, signaling that it's a common Lynchian theme for evil spirits/delusions/however you interpret them.

A Fireman's job is to put out fires.

Cooper goes on a mission from Fireman, but uses the means given to him by MIKE (who happily recites "Fire Walk With Me" before helping Coop travel through time and space) to do so. Cooper focuses so much on his mission that he forgets to be Cooper: loses his happy-go-lucky self and doesn't follow Diane when she leaves him in shock.
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>>87395807
part 18 was a clear rejection of any idea of a "true ending" you ape
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>got a light?
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>>87395788
>you can have that but that shit ain't Twin Peaks.
I think that everyone involved would disagree with you apart from little dwarfo lmao
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>>87395895
That's my point, retard.
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>>87395863

Episode 8 was for Lynch fans.

Episode 18 was for insane people with bulletin boards covered in pins and string.
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>>87395807
Part 17 ends the Twin Peaks and its villain BOB.

Part 18 shows that nothing ever ends.
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>>87395926
>Part 17 was supposed to be the true ending of the series
>That's my point, retard.
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I remember the Fireman/Giant telling Cooper about how he forgot something back in season 2, then it turned out it was Audrey he forgot about
the cyclical nature of the show is my favourite thing about it
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Which is a better rainy day kino?
A Fish Called Wanda
or
Homage
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>Go 2 halloween dressed as Gotta Light the Twin Peaks woodsman my most favouritest scary guy
>All the black kids beat me up and wedgie me in front of everyone and say they will kill me if they ever see me in blackface again
>Want to explain but I can't do it without breaking character
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>>87395868
>A Fireman's job is to put out fires.
I give you that.
"There's fire where you are going."
"Once this fire has started, it's very hard to put out."

But Mike helps him constantly, he even keeps him alive as Dougie. I think the Red Room entities are neither good nor bad, except for their Doppelgangers. As far as I know, Mike doesn't have a Doppelganger, although he travelled to the real world in FWWM. Hence, he is in between, dependent on BOB ("I want my garmonbozia") and on the other hand trying to keep BOB in check, so he doesn't get too powerful.

I don't think Mike purposefully led Coop on. Also, the door in the basement of the Hotel seems to be a very special, very specific portal. It is the same engine room where BOB was killed in the international pilot.

Coop past the 430 miles acts wreckless and rid of emotions up until the point when he reaches Laura. It seems like he is neither good or bad. Just driven by the landmarks from the Fireman.

I'm just raising more questions.
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>>87395807
"no"

when naido becomes diane, it's diane from ep 18, that's why coop is happy

coop becomes immanent to all the happening there (that's why his face is all over the screen), which implies he came back as well

the entire season had many clues that the narrative is not chronological
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>david lynch has 25 years to conceive an ending to BOB
>hmm, i'm thinking a cockney lad with like a marvel superpower
>"oi guv'nor i'll hook u in the jabber ya cunt"
/tpg/: brilliant! lynch is a visionary! lol plebs don't understand art like i do
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>>87395868
>symbolizes the evil "magic" of BOB and MIKE based on pain
actually Hawk has stated that fire can be good or bad, depending on how it's used
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>>87396074
>TP mocks soap operas which were popular at the time
>TR mocks capeshit which is popular at the moment
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people talk about 430, richard and linda, 2 birds 1 stone, but forget that the fireman also said that cooper is far away
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>>87396101
cooper is completely fucked
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>>87396074
keked at this. truly not the most brilliant solution.
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>>87396101
I mentioned that yesterday in a post, when I realised how fucked up it was after watching the scene again
he can always make it back
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>>87396074
David Lynch literally thinks like though. There's an old interview from the 80s/early 90s floating around on Youtube where he discussed his films and the methods he does. There's one point in some American Diner they're talking in where the interviewer asks him something like "based on the set dressing of this room right now, what would make a good scene?" and David answered "A fat woman in a long dress holding a hotdog singing opera".

That's how his mind works.
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>>87394258
lol
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>>87396074
You're right, Cooper and Bob should have wrestled near the waterfall and then they both fall, but Cooper is hanging over the abyss and out of nowhere Laura reaches out and pulls him out. Then all the characters come together, laugh and Cooper says "I guess we truly become Twin Peaks after all! Let's eat some cherry pie!", credits roll.
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>>87396074
Implying this wasn't a jab at people expecting some heroic victory
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>tfw you fuck up on a COSMIC scale
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What did Jeffries mean by this?
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>>87396158

And if he did that you would all be praising Lynch for being so meta.
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>>87396178
Jeffries was a CUTEposter all along
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>>87396178
"Ah don't hayav her NUMber!"
he just wanted to get inside her pants.
all he got was being pissed out by her.

*sad Bowie sings "I was looking for your ass!" (Lazarus)
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>>87396178

you know that bitch is going back to missoula, montana.
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>>87396074
I think it's sort of tongue and cheek for people who expected some ending where Cooper actually comes to save the day from EvilCooper and BOB. To even think that such an ending would happen is silly.
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>>87396158
Thats not far off from what actually happened.
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>>87396101
Anyway, what's up with Richard and Linda? Who are they?

And who was the real Dougie?

And how is Palmer's residence related to Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont and her grandson?
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David Lynch is above time travel plots they said...
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>For the Body without Organs already exists in the strata as well as on the destratified plane of consistency, but in a totally different manner. Take the organism as a stratum: there is indeed a BwO that opposes the organization of the organs we call the organism but there is also a BwO of the organism that belongs to that stratum.
>Cancerous tissue: each instant, each second, a cell becomes cancerous, mad, proliferates and loses its configuration, takes over everything; the organism must resubmit it to its rule or restratify it, not only for its own survival, but also to make possible an escape from the organism, the fabrication of the "other" BwO on the plane of consistency. Take the stratum of signifiance: once again, there is a cancerous tissue, this time ofsignifiance, a burgeoning body of the despot that blocks any circulation of signs, as well as preventing the birth of the asignifying sign on the "other" BwO. Or take a stifling body of subjectification, which makes a freeing all the more unlikely by forbidding any remaining distinction between subjects.
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>>87396276
Palmer's residence is actually the gas station, the kid is both jumping man AND Sarah, the woman is the fire, both good and evil, the two worlds collided, Cooper and Mr. C are the same guy, before they were split personalities, and so on.
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why did Diane's Tulpa remember things that Diane remembers, but Dougie has no idea about Coop
well shit, as I typed that I realised there's nothing to indicate that Dougie had no idea about Cooper, but now I'm wondering how his wedding ring ended up inside of Briggs
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>>87396101
Aren't the two birds the Laura Palmer case and Judi?
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>>87396304
What book?
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>>87396276
>Anyway, what's up with Richard and Linda? Who are they?
Dale and Diane in the parallel universe
>And who was the real Dougie?
A tulpa created in the late 90s
>And how is Palmer's residence related to Mrs. Tremond/Chalfont and her grandson?
They were the previous owners who lived in the parallel version of Laura's house around the time of Laura's death
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is this artwork kino?
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>>87396343
Two birds one stone actually means duality, as noted in this post:
>>87396312

Twin Peaks is really just that.
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>>87396343
it seems like it
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>>87396319
Evil Coop raped Briggs and inserted the ring into his fat body rectally.
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>>87396312
except how Pierre and jumping man are two separate entities?
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>>87396364
"WE URINATE INSIIDE A DREEAM!"
- bedwetters edition

as a german speaker, reading "kino" all the time sounds off and completely gay.

imagine constantly commenting "cinema!" This is so cinema!" fucking cinema!" all my cinema!"
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>>87396364
oh snap. post more
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>What happened to Laura after Episode 18?
answer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdKAFCZHbks
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>>87396351
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynch_on_Lynch
I think
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>>87396422
Russian here. Same shit. It sounds stupid as hell.
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>>87396422
>as a german speaker
you lost your chance to be relevant in 1945
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Forget about "characters".


Who is Cooper, actually?

We had Cooper, FBI agent.
Mr. C, sadistic villain.
Dougie Jones, worthless and immoral guy.
Cooper, who can't talk and is considered to be Dougie Jones, insurance agent.
(And Richard.)

In Sheriff's Station, we meet people who believe the person they see is one of these. But who was that?
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What happened to Donna? Did the actress refuse to come back, I know she quite a wreck but the others came back
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>>87396461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHOIVp-Jsoc
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>>87396422
This post is pure kino.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXMnOLrN4M

Agent Cooper...

Listen to the sounds

[gramophone scratch]

It is in... our house now

Dale: It is?

It all cannot be said aloud now.

Remember 430.

Richard and Linda.

Two birds with one stone.

Dale: I understand.

You are far away.

[Dale disappears]
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>>87396461
I'm glad I'm not alone

>>87396469
haha ha! so funny! so original! hahaha! pat on the shoulder! how funny you are! i've never read a comment on the word "german" immediately jumping to "muh Hitler 1945 fucking Germans!" in MY LIFE.
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>>87396419
How were there three instances of Cooper?
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>>87396540
Make that four
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ENHANCE
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>>87396513

adding how The Giant fiddled around on a bell type aparatus that rings an alarm and also resembles Jeffries.

literally taking "for heeeere am I sitting in a tin can!"
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>>87396495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9p4B6s0j4U
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>>87396582
someone in the window?

>I had plans for today
>still haunted by TPS3 finale
>go to /tv/
welp, there goes another day
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>>87396494
If I was Lynch I wouldn't want something that looks like an old shoe walking around my set.
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>>87396520
>haha ha! so funny! so original! hahaha! pat on the shoulder! how funny you are! i've never read a comment on the word "german" immediately jumping to "muh Hitler 1945 fucking Germans!" in MY LIFE.
Your country's entire social and political landscape is based on insecurities about muh hitler
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>>87396520
it wasn't meant to be funny though?!
complaining about how stupid a word sounds in a language that is not the language of this board makes little sense
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>>87396540
coop was a human bean. the lad and Pierre are lodge spirits.
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>>87396582
What's in the third top middle window? Why are the lights out in the bottom right room? What's in there?
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>>87396582
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>>87396312
Damn
But who is the dreamer?
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>>87396669
what is that??? a scar
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>>87396513
>[gramophone scratch]
You're probably wondering how I ended up so far away.
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my biggest problem with all the multiverse/timeline theories is the same with most theories about Mulholland Drive: People are fixated to resolve things which are clearly self-referential.
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>What, anon? You wanted another mystery series? Like, really?
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>>87396658
>your country's
lmao yeah right, there we go again. another amerifag making false assumptions. it's always the same. slowly, i'm beginning to think that the internet isn't cats and porn, it's mostly Hitler discussion from Amerifags on a cringeworthy level. not going down that road anymore, buddy. Jerk off to your swastikas on your own.

>>87396659
it still sounds like shit and is annoying af. get fucked.

>>87396684
rewatch Sarah gong nuts in the supermarket. She mumbles "this is a dream" ... "you got to get out of here, get the car keys!" right before she gets out.
not saying this means it's her dream, just mentioning it for the record.
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damn Sheryl looks like that?!
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How can I realize that this reality is a dream? I try saying it, thinking about it, but time still keeps on going and my face isn't superimposed. Help me!
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>>87396669
could be apophenia but there does seem to be a glimmer of gold like the Experiment had in the glass box
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>>87396669
ring girl
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>>87396784
You need to be 18 to post here.
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Daily reminder that Lynch literally used his idea for Star Wars in The Return.

>[Lynch's] idea was that Luke Skywalker would travel back in time to kill Darth Vader, but by doing so, Luke would prevent himself from existing and would not be able to kill Darth Vader. Thix paradox would result in Luke being stuck in Star Wars universe forever with no way out. [...] This idea was so different from [Lucas'] idea of Star Wars universe, that's probably why Lynch didn't get to direct and write it.
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>>87395685
See what I mean? You can make up any meaning for Jowday and link it to whatever you want. I honestly think they just said the Jowday thing so that Judy doesn't sound so silly.
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>>87395863
>17 is for "Twin Peaks fans"
>Bob vs Saitama is for twin peaks fans
>erasing the entire show from the timeline completely is for twin peaks fans
how about no
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>>87396847
where did I upset you, anon? can I help?
>>
Everything Lynch has ever created has been a metaphor of his personal life. Returning to Twin Peaks was something he'd always wanted to do but he lost trust in the networks after they forced him to reveal the killer, and he lost trust in the critics after the original run of FWWM. Nobody understood or appreciated Twin Peaks as well as he did.

Laura whispering to Cooper was the proverbial cherry on the pie. It's something only Lynch knows and no one else will ever know. Twin Peaks belongs to him and everyone else can waste their lives trying to understand it.

tl;dr LYNCHED
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>>87395202
>guys I think the ideas presented by this Lynch work of art are more abstract rather than concrete

Wow what a fucking genius you must be
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>>87396453
Thanks, I never heard about it before, but I've just ordered it, hopefully it'll be better than Mark Frost's books.
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>>87394811
Then why when doppelcoop follows his coordinates to judy does he find an image of the palmer house

Why does Jeffries tell coop "i'll show you where to find judy," and then as soon as coop crosses over he heads straight for the palmer house
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>>87396653
She was extremely hot in the first season, she wore a long dress and clothes that weren't revealing but she was superb. In season she was already not the same anymore, she had lots of makeup and worse more sexy clothes, but it wasn't and she was kind of a cunt
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>>87396952
careful, there's an explanation on what Lost Highway means at it ruins the movie. The explanation comes from the interviewer if I remember correctly. Could be total bullshit, but it ruins the mystery of LH a bit.
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>>87396890
or you can look at it as all of those meanings being used at one point or another within the show, just because Lynch wanted to put in weird shit that there was a meaning for, but makes zero sense unless you have it explained
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I guess in retrospect it's pretty obvious that jimmy scott at the roadhouse made it clear that none of that was straight.
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>>87394847
>arguable assumption
And it being Judy isn't?

>So why does the boy ("fell a victim") above the convenience store wear the mask as well (jumping on the street)? These are two seperate characters.

Because they're the same?

>wild speculation that doesn't have any base, but hey it's your interpretation.

Yes, indeed. But Judy is no less wild.
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>>87396985
does he say anything different from the usual interpretation?
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Reminder that everything in The Return will make sense when we're able to connect it all to Evangelion.
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Nobody responded to my theory. Could Cooper be a psychiatrist doing hypnosis sessions with Twin Peaks residents?
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>>87397039
End of Twin Peaks when?
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>>87397052
This would be super lame
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>>87397052
No.
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>>87395090
>Coop remembers who he is but Diane becomes Linda because she was essentially luggage when they crossed over
This is what I don't get. What was the point of taking Diane? Clearly she was supposed to help somehow, or why would he take her in the first place? Why would Andy say that Naido is important and needs to be protected? I feel like in the end Diane wasn't important at all
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>>87397075
He needed to fuck her in the pusy to transform into Richard.
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>>87395440
Bob didn't die. You can't just punch the essence of human evil to death.
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>>87397039

>>87397022
Lynch? I remember it was a pretty good insight and a nice book, except for the LH spoiler interpretation. But I suggest you watch the recent movie on Lynch's life, which is a much bigger revelation. A lot of motives from his films are explained for the first time:

Isabella Rosselini running naked to the house in Blue Velvet = 1:1 realisation of a traumatic childhood memory

Lynch claims he "doesn't know where ideas come from", yet they are all either based on art or his own experiences.
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>sarah is judy
>sarah is also jumping man
>sarah is also pierre
>sarah is also diane (they both drink vodka)
>sarah is also windom earle (disgued)
>sarah is also a black grandma
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>>87397075
>This is what I don't get. What was the point of taking Diane? Clearly she was supposed to help somehow, or why would he take her in the first place? Why would Andy say that Naido is important and needs to be protected? I feel like in the end Diane wasn't important at all
Not only was she apparently important to Coop, she was important enough to Doppelcoop to replace her with a tulpa.
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>>87397052
see this
-->>>87397069
and multiply that by 1.000.000.000
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>>87397020
this argument is stupid tbqh
>Sarah is shown as being possessed by an evil entity
>Her face is shown superimposed over Jumping Man's
therefore she is possessed by Jumping Man, the show is extremely clear about that, you don't even need all those other points
Now wether Jumping Man and the frogmoth were one and the same and Sarah was girl 1956 is a different discussion altogether, but people assuming that Sarah is Judy just weren't paying attention. At most, Judy was living in the Palmer's house, she may have been the one to make those sounds while Sarah was at the door
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i remember when the finale first ended people were pissed and saying shit like "that was it?"

can we all agree now that the dust has settled that both parts 17+18 were 10/10
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>>87397039
Is this our own End of Evangelion?
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>>87396885
Sources buddy. Lynch said he didn't want to direct it, either
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So is Lynch counting on another season?
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>>87396977
I agree, she was perfect. But did you see her now? Goddamn, she's a nasty botoxed bitch.
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>>87397075
Coop and Diane left their reality because Coop's job was done, he helped stop BOB for good. They were running away together. Diane was blindly following Coop because she genuinely loved him, but when they crossed over Diane became Linda and didn't love Coop anymore because he wasn't Richard. So Coop just drove around aimlessly until he found the clues which led him to Laura. Coop has nothing left to live for except to investigate, and curiosity was his downfall.
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>>87396885
Darth Vedder lol
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>>87395778
Please, explain to me how Sarah being Judy isn't an infinitely dumber and worse one?

It is right there in your face, Lynch is showing you that The Jumping Man is part of Sarah, I'm not saying that they're one and the same but just like Bob was to Leland, he's part of her.

Except JM isn't like Bob, he isn't on the prowl for garmonbozia, he's the physical embodiment of the pain and sorrow. Why would Sarah avoid conflict if she literally had the spawn of all evil in her? Why would sit around in agony in her house? Why do anything at all? What is the motivation for Judy to be in Sarah 25 years after the death of Laura? Please give me any logic to the Jody theory because it's the most prominent one, everyone is spouting it but not one mother fucker is using their brain.
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>>87397248
kyle said that there hasn't been any talks about another season at all to his knowledge
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>>87397248
I think he is and I think he might get it
But I would just wait and see what happens. Once the Frost book is out, I think we will know for sure.
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>>87397283
I hate sand
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>>87397265
It's depressing. Wonder if she has dysmorphia. How could you possibly think you need to look different when you're attractive?
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>>87397306
>implying he wants
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>>87397265
Moira Kelly looks fine though, so I wonder why Lynch didn't stick with her for the new season.
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>>87396364
That is fucking cool, where is it from?
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>>87397327
She wouldn't sleep with him.
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>>87397319
Not enough love from parents and peers as a kid.
Sad
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>tfw finally realising why Sherilyn Fenn had a breakdown

Hahahahahahahah she thought she was going to be a lead in this and be cooper's love interest and from it restart her career hahahahaha
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>>87397285

refute this:

There is only one reason why all of this is impossible to resolve: THEORIES

Theories are keeping TP alive. Theories are keeping Lynch's work alive. There is NO definitive answer to any of these connections. Even Lynch doesn't know an answer.

Why do Leland, Laura and Jumping man have this white painted face with yellow teeth and a black lipstick in S1, S2 and FWWM? Nobody knows.
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>>87397326
He has said he would like to do more if fans are on board.
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>>87397319
You've been attractive your whole life. It's been your main trait, actually. You get old. You look less attractive. You want to look how you looked when you get younger. You get surgery. It gets fucked up. You try to fix it with more surgery. You end up looking like a monster.
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Is Tremond Judy? or an extension/minion of Judy?
The boy is Jumping Man, which inhabits Sara
Tremond leads the boy around, she is his caregiver it seems, gives him direction/orders.
Judy controls Sara through Jumping man?
Sara then controls Leland through Judy's control of Bob?
Judy wanted Laura to die, as Laura was sent by the giant to defeat evil, so Judy sent Jumping man as the bug to inhabit Sara.
Sara under control of Judy wanted Laura to die
She was a bigger antagonist to Laura than Leland, who just did the dirty work, Sara was passively controlling this (but then why was she drugged before rapey fun time?)
When Coop saved Laura Sara smashed the picture because her plan fell apart
The alt reality was Judy trying to keep "Laura" at bay under a different life, as BOB is too dead to kill her
Coop comes to town to remind her of Laura
Tremond is at the door of the house to throw her off the scent
She remembers anyway
Does Laura simply knowing fuck Judy up? Because Laura is the dreamer, if she wakes up the reality that Judy has a hold on ends?

There are too many possibilities it's doing my head in.
I have so much paperwork and I'm already sleepy.
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>>87394258
>uses youtube solely to watch Elsa & Spiderman
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Carrie > Laura > Maddy
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>>87395923
What about Lyanch's obsession with bums and freaks?
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>>87396022
>as Got a Light
Jej
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>>87397363
She was supposed to be in Diane's place in the ending, she was supposed to be Linda. But got in a fight with Lynch and they replaced her with Diane.
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>>87397208
taken individually, e17 is hammy as shit and e18 is depressing as fuck. together they constitute what might be the greatest finale ever shown on television.

Makes sense they would be played together as a 2 hour special desu. ending on e17 and having to wait a week would suck so much ass because it would feel like e18 wouldn't even be worth it, seeing as 17 felt so conclusive. But my god, were we lynched hard.
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>>87397419
is this a theory or a fact?
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>>87397409
They're a side of life we usually hide. He likes to enhance what we usually hide.
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NEW

>>87397453
>>87397453
>>87397453
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>>87397404
Sheryl = Sheryl
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>>87397313
Lmao
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>>87396789
She was a QT in that movie
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>>87397371
>>87396312
They are Judy

Plus the whole series about this, even the soap opera part of it, you see a nice quaint town, all these nice people, and when you dig deeper they all have their own problems and vices.
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>>87397285
explain sarah stabbing picture of laura after coop tried to save her and why jumping man would ever give a fuck. if jumping man is pierre too then it makes even less sense since pierre has helped Laura in the past.

basically:
>everyone is everyone
>prove me wrong lol you can't the series is over
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>>87397285
And you keep pulling nonsense out of your ass. JM isn't even supposed to be a spirit like Bob, he's like a "talisman that came to life" in Lynch's words. He inhabits the convenience store and is kind of a living switch that lets the physical and spiritual world coexist physically, which is why he jumps in the convenience store meeting in FWWM and appears briefly when the woodsman turns on that electric thing that lets doppelcoop enter the motel.
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>>87397400
>The boy is Jumping Man
don't they appear as separate entities in FWWM, in the Convenience Store meeting? Am I misremembering?
The boy wears the mask and jumps around a bit in front of Laura, but it may have been giving her a clue in retrospect
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>>87397265
I saw her, I feel bad for her because her face is falling apart due to surgery or botox. She had a very thin skin so I guess she wanted bigger cheeks but it didn't turn out well. She's a very skinny woman, her whole body doesn't hold fat, makes her look older than she is. Since she was saying that there aren't roles for older women, I guess she wouldn't turn down Twin Peaks. Lynch simply didn't call her, he prefers the young ones like Tammy. He brought back Audrey and made her a crazy gold digger hooked with a midget, LOL
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>>87397371
There's theories and there's being blind and ignorant to something blatantly clear and presented to the audience.

It'd be like if you watched Episode 7 of Season 2 and then told people that Bob had nothing to do with it, not in terms of a metaphorical question of what he represent, just the blatant disregard for what Lynch is SHOWING. Nobody is making metaphorical arguments for Judy being in Sarah, people are literally saying that she's a demon inside of her, despite there being nothing in the show to suggest such a thing.

There is nothing on the show to suggest that Sarah is Judy, the only hint we have for Judy is an infinite symbol "Here's where you'll find Judy" and what does that mean? Sarah? No it sounds more like being trapped in an endless cycle where the outcome is always the same, the negative force winning.
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>>87397513
Does that matter?
We're talking about spirits and alternate realities and time traveling here, I don't see why two separate entities can't be one and the same.
Midget man was Mikes arm ffs.
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Whats is Lynches obsession with Chrysta Bell?
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>>87397545
>Judy rips the boy and the girl in the glass box room to shreds with her mouth
>Sarah lashes at the CUNT'RY man's neck with her mouth
>"Nothing to do with Judy"

sure, man, sure!
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>>87397703
She's a babe with hips that make you no longer soft where it counts.
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>>87397703
have you seen her?
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>>87397751
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>>87397724
>Sarah's face is shown superimposed over Jumping Man
does this fact not matter or something? Also the way Judy killed those two guys was markedly different, it didn't seem like she was biting them
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>>87397784

Twin Peaks
Jwin Jeaks
Juman Jiks
Jumanjiks
Jumanji

The show is about Laura's (Robin Williams') death.
>problem solved.
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>>87397401
the horror
more horrifying than anything Lynch has made
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>>87397039
it all returns to nothing
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>>87397800
>Sarah takes off her face
>Laura takes off her face
>"They are the same person"
This is quite literally your logic.
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>>87397859
no it isn't, you just want your fanfiction to be real even though it directly contradicts the show
your logic is
>judy kills people
>sarah kills people
>sarah is judy
which is closer to your example honestly
the show showed you one thing (sarah and jumping man blending together) and you assume another one (sarah is judy)
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>>87395348

>It started few months ago

You must be the same kind of retard that calls Pepe "Sad Frog", cockmongler has been in 4chan Since 2005, and he Even had that name in YTMND at that time.

Fuck off Plebbitard.
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>>87397160
>But I suggest you watch the recent movie on Lynch's life
The Art Life?
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>>87397248
probably not
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>>87395304
Check out 'Lucky', my dude. In theatres soon. Lynch stars in it too.
I'm very eager to see it.
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