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When You Realize It's A "Dale Cooper Fucks Everything Up and Makes Your Life Even Worse AGAIN" Episode Edition

https://pastebin.com/mcKYsFib

Meanwhile: >>87308864
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Anyone else notice Pole 6 made another appearance in front of Carrie Page's house?
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Have you guys discussed this Reddit theory yet?

>交代, that is "jiāo dài", is Chinese meaning 'to explain'. The ultimate negative force is explanation. Lynch's life philosophy. Son of a bitch.
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>>87311670
90% of the twin peaks didn't make it

look how little Heather Graham and duchovny had to do with twin peaks, and they had a great career after twin peaks
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Where can I read professional final reviews about this shit show?
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Did i just saw Shark Boy and Lava Girl ?
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>>87311864
Loved the ending, loved the season.

I maintain that normalCoop saved Laura Palmer from death. Now they just need to get Sarah Palmer down for she is the medium of ebil force.
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Still here
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>>87311864
How do I unlynch myself after episode 18?
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so possessed sarah palmer is still killing people in twin peaks and that's just not worthy of addressing?
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>last episode is a whole episode of Cooper which is not even Cooper
B R A V O
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last scene was a dream

laura in 1989 is the dreamer

cooper asks what year is it

laura's mother calls out to her from the waking world

laura recognizes her mother's voice and realize she's dreaming

she screams and wakes up back in 1989 the morning they would have found her body had cooper not had changed the past
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What happen with Mr. C? Did he reach White Lodge and now can create his own reality or he was just cucked by Coop?
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will she be alright?
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>>87311902
Gordon Pole lol
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I miss Annie...
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>>87311835
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Cooper's dream, season 1 ep 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guwl1w0yFGk
>in the finale, Laura/Carrie hears Sarah yelling "Laura!"
>this is the first thing Cooper heard in his dream, 25 years earlier
>magician poem
>Coop and Carrie literally just got cucked by the magicians temporarily inhabiting the home they wish to visit
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Am I the only one who was more LYNCHED by the Diane scenes in part 18 than the Carrie ones? I get what was going on there mostly, alternate personas being in tune with their originals, but what the fuck was going on with Cooper and Diane?

I assumed the 430 miles thing was them crossing whatever threshold, but then it seems like the sex scene was the threshold instead. Why was Cooper so stoic in bed but himself in the car? Why was Diane covering his face like that? What the fuck did any of that mean?
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>tfw you were just rying to save laura but you fucked everything up and now have no idea whats going on and are porbably going to be stuck in hell for another 25 years
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So we can all agree that Part 18 was the ultimate pleb filter, right?
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>tfw after watching the finale
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>>87311935
Variety, IndieWire, Deadline, Vulture all pretty good
AV Club, cancerous
Slashfilm, meaningless
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Memes aside, what was Booper's end game?

Why did he try so hard to avoid the Lodge?
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Naido being reduced to a placeholder for Diane is another example of Lynch’s clumsy sidelining of non-white characters. In this case, she’s not even a character, but a symbol of a character.
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>>87311954
I like BoC a lot but these comparisons don't make much sense.
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Did Becky die?
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>>87311908
wait, really? it does sound the same now that I think about it, but damn.
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>>87311944
Lee was goat.
>>87311948
I think this is what's happening. Coop wanted to go and nail Sarah but he couldn't.
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Season 4 is 100% going to happen, you can screencap this
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>>87311990
Saving Laura was all he cared about which eventually got him stuck in the final scene
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>>87311948
eh. shit happens
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There are over 4 hours of unused fotage of Gordon Cole puting his penis iniside Tammys vavona. My dad works at Showtime.
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>>87311957
It doesn't matter if she was because Lynch doesn't care
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>>87311980
unironically yes
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>>87311925
Also important to note that television wasn't prestigious at all in 1990, Twin Peaks was one of the first shows that set it down that path. It's not like today where the stars of the biggest tv show (GoT) get blockbuster movie roles.
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in order to fix the timeline we have to rectify the original sin

when jerry stole mrs tremond's marble rye
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>>87311951
fuck off
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>>87311956
He was approaching the entrance to the White Lodge. The Fireman trapped him and moved him to the sheriff's station, where he already showed Andy what would happen.
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>>87311987
>AV Club, cancerous
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NEW TWIN PEAKS MOVIE WHEN?
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>>87311922
Heh, even though it was posted here first. Ah, who the hell cares.
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>>87311987
http://www.lostinthemovies.com/2017/09/twin-peaks-return-parts-17-18-past.html

This is the guy who does the Journey Through Twin Peaks vids, not exactly a review but a great writeup
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>>87311992
It was her punishment for cultural appropriation.
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>>87311980
Yes.
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>>87312016

That's Cooper, I meant Bob.
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These issues are undefendable
>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>extended pitch black scenes because of a lack of a competent cinematographer
>audio issues with microphone static left unaddressed because of poor sound design
>extremely poor editing with magically disappearing extras and production staff accidentally walking into frame
>somehow the best thing in tv history
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>>87312031
Jerry stole the garmanbozia
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>>87312037
>in this case, she's not even a character, but a symbol of a character
Wow, just like everyone in S3
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>>87312015
WRONG
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>>87311980
>hurr durr satisfying conclusions are for faaaaaags
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>>87311944
Fuck those end credits were depressing.
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>>87312030
nowadays, it's either tv actors getting movie roles and movie actors getting tv roles because their movie career is shit.
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>>87311935
4chan posts are worth more than professional reviews at this point. They offer no meaningful analysis or commentary and basically just say "it was great, classic Lynch"
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>The number 7 is the seeker, the thinker, the searcher of Truth (notice the capital "T"). The 7 doesn't take anything at face value -- it is always trying to understand the underlying, hidden truths. The 7 knows that nothing is exactly as it seems and that reality is often hidden behind illusions.
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>>87312009
Sheryl is a fucking national treasure. At first I was disappointed we only got her briefly in two episodes but goddamn Lynch knows how to make her short appearances fucking amazing
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>>87312061
Twin Peaks: Dougie Play Ball With Me
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>>87312028
WHY IS HER HAND SO RED
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>>87311990
i think he enjoyed having a physical presence in the world and inflicting suffering. the real question is why the fuck he didn't just continue with this after he avoided going back to the lodge and dougie got taken back instead. he didn't want to go back to the lodge but was the point in going seeing jeffries and all that?
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>>87312105
Now you're getting it, anon.
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Wait so who killed Laura?
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>>87312061
Never.
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I cringe just knowing that my mom will watch this later today and sit through the 4 minute sex scene
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who here /supportingthetwobestwaifus/?
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>>87312120
She was 10/10 in FWWM too.
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>>87311951
So she's actually saved? Is it a happy ending then? because it doesn't leave you with a happy feeling at all. The tone of the final scene contradicts with the context. Also what would be the point?
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>>87312087
>no interesting ideas
Stopped reading there
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Hi, I don't know if you remember me. I posted around here in the first few threads for the premiere.
I was the guy whose mom watched the show when it aired and was a massive fangirl back then. She introduced it to me when I was a teenager and was inhumanly excited for the Return, she got the whole family together to watch the premiere and made pie, coffee, all that shit.

The atmosphere around the house now can only be described as somber, it's like someone died.
As a woman who didn't really like FWWM back in the day I was scared that she would dislike everything about the new series. I was pleasently surprised that she liked it each week, she loved Dougie, the new characters, the FWWM vibe at times and legit cried when Coop fully returned and when Ed finally got with Norma. She lost her shit, in a good way, when the seasons retcon started and we started the finale in absolute hype.

But even then she got crushed by the finale. She reacted was like they killed her puppy or something, she didn't even like scream or got mad or anything like that. She just asked for some time to think about it and hasn't really talked about it since, I don't she wants to.
She spend the whole day kinda bummed out and it's kinda killing me inside that she lost all her energy that much. It almost looks like she doesn't love Twin Peaks anymore.

But basically, I need help, how do I cheer her up about the finale? I'm leaving later today to go back home and I don't wanna leave her like that. And I don't want to shame her into liking it by calling her a dumb plebeian that can't appreciate high-level television or something.
Please, I need ideas.
Thank you.
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So uhh, what did the extensive amount of exposition, scenes and screentime devoted to Gordon Cole/Albert/Tammy even accomplish?
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>>87311980
serious question, do you autists actually believe you enjoyed this shit or do you just pretend to make yourselves feel different from everyone else?
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>>87312149
Bobby
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ronald mcdiane lol
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>>87312061
Pure retard Dougie spinoff Series with 25 seasons when
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>>87311992
Identity politics memes aside it was pretty lazy. It's like Lynch/Frost couldn't figure out what to do with the character so they just turned her into Diane at the last second. It reminds me of Devil May Cry 4.
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>>87312149
Still alive.
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>>87312154
I watched it with my mom
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>>87312166
No, Sarah Palmer is still Judy.
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>>87312149
Season 3 makes it so that Laura Palmer WAS NOT KILLED.

Your question is moot.
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>>87312185
Great television
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>>87312166
Because when you wake up from bad dreams you're normally terrified.
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>>87312185
That they are the FBI
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>>87311864
Her ass game is fantastic though
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People will discuss this ending for 10 years desu
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the redhead agent that works with lynch gets my hard
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i've forgotten - how were the FBI even aware of dougie?
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>>87312166
No, that post is b8. Protip: If you ever find yourself reading the words "is the dreamer," stop reading.
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>>87312189
t. gotfag
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>>87312166
>>87312166
No because Sarah Palmer is still Juden and killing people to collect pain and sorrow for the otherworldy spirits.

The spirits are allegory of the viewer who needs pain and sorrow like Twin Peaks to get their kicks and thus the characters need to suffer because of the viewer.
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>>87312204
>only 6% were right
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>>87311954
wouldnt the return be tomorrows harvest?
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Sheryl Lee
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>>87312239
>tfw she said my name in an episode
Was jerkin' it to that shit for days
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>>87312177
this is probably pasta, but still, discuss the finale with her. Like, bring up the different theories surrounding what it all meant and if she's still feeling shit about it, take the easiest, most happy-ending like theory and try to make it seem like the true thing.
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>judy
>jew day
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Unsure if it was just my copy or what (or if it's been pointed out already) but did anyone notice that this had no electricity sound on the final ep?
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>Cooper never met Harry
>Cooper never met Audrey
>Cooper never met Andy
>Cooper never met Hawk
>Cooper never met Annie
>Cooper never met Briggs
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>>87312185
Not where it counts.
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>>87311950
>The actual Special Agent Dale Cooper character gets exactly 37 minutes of screentime in a 18 hour series
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>>87312087
>not liking based hawk
GO AWAY ALREADY
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>>87312154
i wonder if that tit was laura dern's or a younger actresses', because if that was dern's, wow, she has great tits for a 50 year old.
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>>87312207

how do u get through it, i cringe out of my skin when watching just basic cable and softcore as fuck sex scenes come on and im watching it with my mom
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>>87312157
who is that person on the left of Carrie
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>>87312185
FACES OF STONE
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>>87312185
Gordon was told if Coop goes missing like the others, to do everything he can to find him. That's why he waited until someone who looked like him got arrested 25 years later.
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So can we all agree that Dougie Jones was the best character ever created?
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>>87312204
Holy shit what a fucking image.
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>>87312087
>that inage

Fucking hell, that caught me off guard.
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>>87312285
yup, no sound this time.
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>>87311922
>everything is reddit lmao

come up with something else for fuck sake
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>>87312037
I fucking knew they would say that as soon as I saw that scene. Thank god most of their readerbase jumped ship when they merged with Gawker.
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>>87312285
no more energy
tin peaks is finished
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>>87312285
Nope it was like that for everyone.
Pretty fucking spooky.
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>>87312262
>Sarah Palmer is still Juden
Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
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>>87312087
BUDGET
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E
T
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>>87312204
>James Hurley (Motorcyclist)

The character so one dimensional his only attribute is "i guess he rides a bike sometimes? idk lmao ship it".
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>>87312177
BRAVO LYNCH,
R
A
V
O
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13860508
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>>87312285
Yeah I noticed it too.
Was probably just to add to the impact of the final scene.
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>>87312204
it was STILL ALIVE, SUICIDE, DALE COOPER and MR. PALMER
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: - ) ALL
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>>87311992
av club
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JUDY IS POSITIVE ABOUT THIS
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>>87312087
feel free to improve but the cringe-tier line was pretty essential.
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>>87312304
her name is, errr, Monica Antlers. yeah, she knew Carrie from High-School.
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>>87311922
Most of Reddit is just people stealing from 4chan and passing ideas/memes/jokes off as their own
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>>87312204
DR AMP WOULDN'T HURT A FLY
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>You can't save Laura from her fate no matter what you do
>You can't save Sheryl Lee from being abused and mistreated by Lynch no matter what you do

This ending made me feel on a very meta level.
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>>87312185
Give me a boner anytime they showed Tammy walking
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>>87312225
I would prefer CIA
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>>87312358
everyone's dead IRL
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>>87312333
I'm with your annoyance with the shouting reddit at everything but that's literally a theory being discussed on reddit
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>>87312177
my parents absolutely hate s3 but apparently they loved it in its first two seasons. they think s3 is "crazy".
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>>87311992
diano
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>>87312285
Didn't notice that, same on mine too
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>>87312185
All those exposition scenes felt pretty patronizing to me. Most of them were just restating obvious shit. There were some good scenes here and there but most of them were shit. Not even the good kind of filler. Maybe they were insulting on purpose. But it's hard to say how much of the shit Lynch does is deliberate.
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>>87312308
But they barely did anything? They just sat in a hotel room in South Dakota aside from vising the jail, crime scene and suspect once each.
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>>87311976
they were both transforming into their newUniverse selves, however diane is NOT linda, richard and whoever diane is now probably don't even know each other
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>>87312358
After all the behind the scenes drama between Lynch and Showtime before S3 and the middling ratings for S3, I'm really skeptical of the show being back anytime soon.
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>>87312145
>>87311990

he wanted the experiment

christ this is made clear through dialogue
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>>87312408
He's getting soft (not where it counts, thought).
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>>87312302
When Diane started to fucking smother Coop, we both started laughing.

I've watched worse things with her. In fact, I made my whole family get together and watch Bone Tomahawk.
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>>87312248
so it's the latter, right? you can feel smug and superior to people who watch different shows because you pretend like you enjoy shows that are just too deep to have any kind of sense.
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I need your rarest Bobbys and Mitchums
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>>87312171
>IT'S ALL A DREAM GUYS
>TIME TRAVEL
>COOPERS BAD NOW
>LAURA AND BOB ARE NOW BEACHBALLS BEING BOUNCED AROUND BY
SUPERNATURAL FORCES
fuck off
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>>87311061
Because the artist shouldn't make art solely for himself. Art is made to be shared. Art should serve a purpose above idle pleasure. Additionally, if you consider the money that is poured into film and television, then it's even more of an imperative that the end result should be something that is serviceable to feelings of its recipient.
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>>87312177
I'm procrastinating showing this to my dad for the same exact reason.
Though he may end up liking it, I don't know, he is a big fan of the twilight zone
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>>87312003

It's the exact same scratching sound, I marathoned the whole season yesterday.
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>>87312177
take her out for coffee and pie at some greasy spoon and just have a conversation. whether it's about twin peaks or not. if she didn't like it you won't convince her. just enjoy time with your mom anon while you still have it.
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Why did the entrance at Jack Rabbit's palace look so much like the "Hello Johnny, how are you today?" bear's face?
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>lynch went full Pucci with the ending

Is this the end of the Coopstar bloodline?
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>>87312387
>ywn convince Sheryl not to take the part as Laura Palmer and instead give her a happy life free of having to suffer as a fictional character
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>>87312285
I didn't get sound either that time.

Personally I fucking hate it, because I have my headphones turned up during the Roadhouse performance that usually comes right before. I have to preemptively turn it down just as it's ending so I don't get a sudden assault of "BZZZZTTT."
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>>87312387
but Dale Cooper saved Laura Palmer from her murder.

This is established in the last two episodes.
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i only want a season 4 to happen because Lynch is the only filmmaker left who will give machlachlan, lee and dern interesting material to do.
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What year is this?
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So, what happened with Audrey?
I was very interested to see what happened after that cut to white with her face in the mirror.
Is she in a coma?
Is she in a mental prison made and kept by Charlie?
Did I get LYNCHED expecting more of that storyline to be covered in the last two?
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>>87312428
HOLY FUUUCK I NEVER NOTICED THE LITTLE HORNS IN HER HEAD
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>>87312270
No because The Return is good.
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>>87312422
After hearing about Kyle's meltdown I'll be surprised if we even see any interviews.
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>>87312408
i thought the fbi scenes were one of the weakest parts of the season, it felt like they could've been handled a lot better
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>>87312185
why did we need to see gordon fucking around with a french whore for twenty minutes?
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>>87312485
2010
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>>87312401
my dad loved this season the most, while my mom hated it/preferred 1 & 2.
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>>87312185
THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN THE FBI
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>>87312358
Don't need a season, just give us a movie. Showtime probably wouldn't go for it with those ratings anyways.
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>>87312490
Is it the story of the little girl who lived down the lane?
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>>87312428
i don't remember that. why does he want it? didn't that birth BOB and so is presumably a more powerful entity than him?
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>>87312482
Atleast Kyle is pretty much a more verbose Dougie on Portlandia
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>>87312446
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>The real Coop never drank a single cup of coffee
i scream
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>>87312428

What's up with The Experiment?
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>>87312475
>people still think this means it was a happy ending

The ending of FWWM was her being overjoyed at her death and no longer having to suffer dumbass, being alive still means she's just backed to being raped and abused everyday.
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>>87312204
>suicide
yeah she wrapped herself in plastic duh
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>>87312037

Oh wow, I thought this was ironic pasta created here meant to impersonate MJA.
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>>87312503
>Kyle's meltdown

????????
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Poor Cooper's never gonna see a season finale that doesn't leave him in a really shitty situation, is he?
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F A C E S
O F
S T O N E
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>>87311922

It's fine if they steal this one because it's something a retard would come up with and a child would think is cool.
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>>87311864
Just finished the finale, am actually offended.
>Made to watch ~25 minutes of Cooper trying to fuck Diane and fucking Diane
>Made to watch ~15 minutes of two people not talking in a car
>no climax
Inb4 lynched
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>>87312532
He drank one in the Mitchum's limo
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Will "everything was just a dream" -trope become widespread and brilliant again after the finale of TP?
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>>87312503
What happened?
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>>87312428

is dat judy or was it just a restaurant

lmao
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>>87312451
This is a pathetic post.
Stay LYNCHED.
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>>87312535
She says she didn't know better when she was younger in the car ride to Sarah Palmer's old house.

S03 is not happy ending, I agree.
but Dale Cooper did save Laura Palmer from death.
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I'm gonna post this one more time because it made me feel even harder in the context of this last episode.

>And then there is Sheryl Lee‘s very openhearted entry from her personal diary, written in the early ’90s just after the young actress finished filming Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me.

>Where do I begin? It has been a little over a month since we stopped filming. In a way, it seems like years and in another, only yesterday. As I sit down now to write this, so many emotions arise. The gift and the experience that you gave me are beyond expression of words. I am aware that your death also allowed an old part of myself to finally die… a very self-destructive part. Through you, I came face-to-face with my own dark side. I feel as if I have lived a whole lifetime in those two short months of filming. I will never forget how, the week after we finished, I suddenly became aware that my thoughts were my own again. My mind and my life had been completely occupied by you. You came to me morning, noon, and night—especially night. That was your time, the darkness of midnight. You continually wove your spirit into my dream world, revealing bits and pieces of yourself, myself, and our fears and struggles. The thing I remember most about you, though, Laura, is your loneliness. That loneliness haunted me. Walking back into my empty hotel room by myself each day, left to deal with the fragmented pieces of my own life, your loneliness would still fill my room. My prayer is that you are now someplace where you are truly loved and at peaceful rest.

>Much love and gratitude,

>Me
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>>87312556
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>>87312532
He did during the ride with the Mitchom brothers.
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>>87312358
to all you retards saying it won't happen: WRONG
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>>87312154
>>87312177
>>87312207
I watched it with both of my parents.
We all loved it.
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WHY DIDNT THIS SEASON HAVE ANY OWLS
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Was MIKE good or a bad guy?

Did he know what would've happened if Laura was saved?
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>>87312564
He never said "mm coffee lmao" and that's what I have a real issue with
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where was the scene of laura's mom calling out laura from? which scene did they grab that audio clip from?
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HELL GOD BABY DAMN NO
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Leland's death is where this shit should've ended.
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>>87312482
He needs to give Ray Wise something to do too.
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>>87312598
Those things spook me
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>>87312185

CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF
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>>87312556
four lynched
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>>87312601
he's a good guy, he cuts off his arm to plant trees
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>>87312451
this has gotta be bait
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>>87312601
Neither. Mike is god.
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>>87312087
>bad acting
>Dern
There was a lot of bad acting, but Diana was greatly fucking well acted
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>>87312500
shit opinion you got there
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What year is it when Sarah Palmer is showing stabbing Laura Palmer's picture in the floor? Was that from S1-2 or FWWM? I don't remember.

She is upset that she got killed? Genuine upset.

or is Judy mad that Laura Palmer didnt die and its anger? in that scene
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>>87312422
Apparently twin peaks drove a lot of new subs to their streaming service though
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>Jerry's whole plotline

k i n o
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I KNOW YOU LOVE ME LAURA
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>>87312598
Yeah, no owls. It did have crows though. The subtitles always mention the crow sounds as though they are meaningful.
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>>87312658
That was in the present, while Sarah was possessed by Judy. Not from any previous season or movie.
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>>87312658
Laura is Judy my dude.
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>>87311990
>Memes aside, what was Booper's end game?

I always assumed he was trying to kill and replace real Cooper and that was his end game.. hence the hitmen etc
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>>87312598
Those owls are dead, Lynch didn't recast them out of respect.
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>>87312654
I found that every, even smallest character, pulled off their roles well and made for memorable impression, in a positive sense.

Well except Green Hand and James.
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>>87312658
It has to be during S3 because of the state of her house, it's the same as the other scenes.
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>>87312592
Do you know anyone IRL that watched this show?

There's your answer to why they won't do a new season.
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>>87312609
Probably the pilot when she is calling her for breakfast before realizing she's missing/dead
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>>87312320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPM8myAnLY
2:30
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Most important question
http://www.strawpoll.me/13860571
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>everything was a dream
Wow really? Really? Still this shitty lazy gimmick? Haha, you guys are Lynched.
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>>87312451
>Because the artist shouldn't make art solely for himself. Art is made to be shared
i think we fundamentally disagree on the purposeo f art, but i can respect your interpretation. additionally i don't necessarily think art made without an audience in mind is art being made for pure pleasure, although it certainly can be. an individual can channel their emotion and create art that has significant meaning; that isn't hedonistic in any way.

i do agree with your last point however. those who pay for something should have their feelings taken into account in relation to this thing. i don't think lynch did intentionally go into this trying to piss anyone off however. we wanted lynch, he gave us lynch.
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>>87312654
This. I may not have liked Diane's character that much, but Dern still fucking nailed it and pretty much outshone almost everyone else on the show as far as acting.
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>>87312574
Ah, the "LYNCHED" meme - a flak shield made by insecure fans to protect their beloved director and all his stupid decisions. Keep on lapping up that Lynch kiddo
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>>87312658
>or is Judy mad that Laura Palmer didnt die and its anger? in that scene

that imo
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>>87312654
>fuck you
wow laura really put her heart into those lines
what a great actress
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>>87312609
from the pilot, and it confirms this >>87311951
theory
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>>87312675

I AM NOT YOUR FOOT
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>>87311990
>>87312428
>>87312522
His goal is unironically the same as Windom Earle, to gain the powers of the lodge.
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>>87312598
there was an owl when the limo driver dropped dougie off at his house

think that was the only one though
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>>87312696
did you miss that floating cgi owl face?
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>>87312720
ahahaha
L

Y

N

C

H

E

D
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>>87312688
Yeah so it's Judy angry that Laura Palmer is not dead, ok.

>>87312691
How

>>87312702
Oh, yeah. Stupid me.
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>>87312522
Seems like Bob is just that much of a greedy son of a bitch, he wants all the garmonbozia.
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>>87312711
>laura's father
>3%

how could so many people be tricked? or were americans just too stupid?
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now just think about how good the show would have been if Showtime didnt give Lynch what he wanted and got someone else to do it. Would have been much better than this shit.
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>>87312714
that is the pleb interpretation, so much that the original post who suggested it was instantly turn into a pasta and imported to reddit
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>>87312598
Owl Cookie Jar in Dougie's kitchen
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>season three left more unresolved plotlines than the second season did
How the fuck is this possible?
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>>87312451
>Because the artist shouldn't make art solely for himself.

oh fuck off
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>>87312658
she's upset because dopplecoop was supposed to meet up with her at the palmer house, but instead he gets tricked into going to the police station and gets hulk smashed, and coop saves laura from being murdered and alters the timeline completely which erases all of Judy's hard work
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>>87312658
she is possessed by (((Judah)))
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IT'S SLIPPERY IN HERE
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>>87312711

4:59
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>>87312745
>could've got based bob as an evil dentist instead of lynch jerking off with shitty contacts for thirty minutes
I want frosts original ending back
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>>87312750
Pretty sure there was one in the fbi hotel room
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Anyone else find the Coop/Diane romance really random?
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>>87312798
Yeah, well put. I stand by that there is only 1 timeline and 1 timeline only.
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there's a lot of stuff left to be explored in the twin peaks universe. i really hope there's a film or another series that explores the entity within sarah palmer and the attempts to stop her.
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I love the guy with the glove on his hand, standout character.
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>>87312707
joke's on you: I don't know anyone IRL
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I wanna ejac on Tammy
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AYOO AYOO HOL UP LYNCH

So waz u be sayen iz ..

IT WAS ALL A DREAM
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>leave for 20 minutes
>whole new thread and it's already 250 posts

/tpg/ is dead
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>>87312556
Ignoring exaggerations, you need the car scene to be as long as it is. There's no other (non-pleb) way to establish what an awkward, unfriendly trip that whole long drive from Texas to Washington was. This wasn't the sheriff station reunion with Andy giddy as hell. This was Cooper delivering Laura back home, but it was already clear this was a darker situation.
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>>87312823
Not really. He kinda "wrote" to her every day back in season 1.

In deleted FWWM scenes, he was practicing his romantic advances towards her.
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>>87312823

Other than the fact she mentioned she kissed real Cooper before, it's pretty random.
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>>87312829

If there was one timeline, either Laura and Cooper couldn't exist.
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i loved the fact that sarah was left being the big boss, grace did a fantastic job
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>>87312823
I can't be the only one who thought Diane was just a name Coop gave to his tape recorder.
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i think i would've preferred an ending where coop gets laura back to sarah, who then proceeds to rape and abuse her just like Leland did since she's possessed as well.
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>>87312587
Sheryl is genuinely a great person
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>>87312731
was it really? has someone proven it was the same
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>>87312798
this is accurate i believe
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>>87312522
>i don't remember that.

First episode, when Booper kills Daria in the hotel room.

>why does he want it?

Power? Control? Any of the things he's exhibited a desire for through his actions.

>>87312534

Literally the physical representation of the entity Gordon describes in episode 17, created by the white sands nuke test.
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>>87312503
This poster is confusing it with Julee Cruise's meltdown.
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>>87312720
>Ah, the "LYNCHED" meme
Can you stop talking like a fucking fedora wielding redditor for like a minute please
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>>87312711
WHERE IS LYNCH?
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IT WAS ALL A DREAM

I USED TO READ BLACK LODGE MAGAZINE
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>>87312609
It's from the pilot, and Cooper hears it as well in his dream: >>87311973
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>>87312823
It feels like Lynch was giving Dern special treatment.
>>
Why did laura scream and then disappear in the past?
Why did Cooper return to the lodge after that?
Why was Laura here if she disappeared? Why did she disappear again and scream?
Why was everything the same as episode 2 except Cooper leaving the lodge instead of falling for the trap?
Why was Diane there when he left the lodge?
What did they drive 430 miles away from?
Why did Diane see herself at teh motel?
Why did Cooper and Diane go to the motel just to have sex?
Why did Diane disappear?
Who is Richard and Linda?
Why was Cooper's car and the motel different?
Why did the diner he go to happen to have Carrie Page as a waitress?
Why was Laura calling herself Carrie Page?
Why was there someone else in her house?
Why did the lights go out at the end?
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>>87312520
I don't remember them telling the story... only remember it mentioned
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s04 all about leaping lads escape WHEN
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>>87312823
It was richard and linda

the more I think of episode 18 and all of season 3 as it's only separate thing that has nothing to do with Twin Peaks the more I appreciate the work lynch created
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>>87312839
IT'S MORE DAN MY JOBSWORF
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>>87312866
seriously everyones mind was so thoroughly fucked that we are just oozing out as much random splurge as we can to make sense of it
>>
Ok, but what happened to my lad Freddie?
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>>87312675
Why was he naked?
>>
I'm not going to pretend I understand what the fuck is going on with ep18, felt like a Lynch decided to add another movie after the ending of Twin Peaks.
I thought I had a clear understanding of every plot thread at the end of ep17, and then Lynch took that ground away and kept my mind racing.
10/10, best 18 hours of my life, we're all Audrey
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>>87312839
i found out he's the same guy who did that really popular youtube video with all the accents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM

really surprised me
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>>87312428
Prepare for almond activation
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>>87312604
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>>87312893
that's true in the black lodge
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>>87312999
ELECTRICITYYYYYYYY
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>>87312823
Last thing we knew about Diane was that she got raped and trapped in the convenience store by DoppleCoop. And then she comes back and already knows the good Cooper saved her?

Also the scenes with Coop and Diane in the middle of nowhere seemed very Dopple to me. Even the sex scene. There's also the part of Diane seeing her double in the car.
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Anyone else pissed off Cooper gave zero fucks about Harry?
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>Frank just stayed sat behind his desk for the entirety of that One Punch/Bob fight
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>>87312987
People are under a lot of stress, Bradley
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>>87312760
xDDD

>>87312716
Finally, a rational post.

But I think all art is made with an audience in mind, unless we're talking about outsider art, which might arguably be made as a means of therapy. No one truly makes art solely for themselves, and if they do, then there's no need to showcase it to others.

>i don't think lynch did intentionally go into this trying to piss anyone off however

If it wasn't intentional, then whatever feeling he was trying to transmit failed to transmit. Therefore it is bad.
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>>87312277
>>87312458
Alright, thanks. Guess I'll have to do something this. I think I have some time to take her out on a fucking monday out of nowhere and unnanounced.
Weirdly enough "just discussing it" was the thing I was dreading the most about this because even I'm not really sure of what I thought of the finale. Either way it's better than leaving her bummed out for a whole week.
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>>87312720
>the finale was bad because it didn't pander to people

your post was pathetic and why we get so many shit tv shows and movies

leave.
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>>87313038
What do you mean, he told Frank to send his regards.
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>>87312985
what happened to literally every character since there is zero closure asides from with Dougie, Janey-E and Sonny Jim?

honestly it feels especially odd to me how Lynch explicitly gave us closure for those characters but then neglected to do so for anybody else.
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>>87312999
NICE TRIPS
NICE TRIPS
NICE TRIPS
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>>87312564
I love how Jim Belushi gets a fully dressed Bloody Mary in the back of the limo, I'd watch a Mitchum Brothers spinoff show in a heartbeat.
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>>87312989
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>>87312839
great original character
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>>87312996
Jeffries is played by the Evolution of Dance guy this season
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>>87311950
>Real coop is getting Janey-E pusy
>Left fake coop with laura
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>>87312500
fuck you
>>
BONG PAWWWWWWNCH
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_QCjmZnUmM
>>
FUCKING JERRY CROSSED ALL OF IDAHO BY WALKING
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>>87312996
wow holy shit
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>>87312508
It's lynch's self insert fantasy
>>
Was anyone else really suspicious of it actually being Dopplecoop in the car with Diane? He acted really fucking odd in that diner as well.
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>>87312598
You hear that bird this morning.
>>
>Laura Palmer was created to counter Judy. But Judy had a plan. Her child BOB was to taint & finally possess Laura. She possessed Sarah Palmer to ensure this happened.

>In FWWM, Laura defeats this plan via her own death. But to do this, she bound herself to the Black Lodge. But she was still needed to destroy Judy. And so Dale was given the means to go back in time and rescue Laura from death. He did this, erasing her death. Judy saw this happen and attacked Laura’s photo, and Laura herself. Laura was torn from Dale in the past, and from the Black Lodge. Judy sent Laura to another level of the dream: a new reality. Here she was corrupted again, remade into a killer. She was once again made like the pale horse: dark within.

>Dale still believes she can destroy Judy. He brings her to Twin Peaks; he hopes to kill 2 birds with 1 stone: return Laura to herself by destroying Judy. But when they arrive, the Twin Peaks of this parallel universe has already been tainted beyond repair. Chalfont & Tremond are the names used by a Black Lodge spirit: the grandmother. Laura is awakened to herself when she recognizes this darkness, the same darkness that has finally corrupted her. Dale and his allies have failed. Humanity’s evil is too great.

>Reality works like a dream. Parallel universes follow the logic of one dream giving way to another. Judy is slowly devouring the dream, as we devour ourselves. Our goodness, personified by Dale and the Fireman, is ultimately not enough.
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Charlie is still the best new character
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>>87312996
i like to think david lynch found him through this video
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>>87312947
>Why did laura scream and then disappear in the past?
Cooper looked back, several times. Imperfect courage. You then hear Judy take her (same sound as the Fireman plays at the very beginning of the season).
>Why was Laura here if she disappeared? Why did she disappear again and scream?
Do you mean why they showed the same scene at the end of 17 and beginning of 18? I don't know. Lynch must have really wanted them to be able to be watched independently.
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>>87312947
>Who is Richard and Linda?
The Fireman warned Cooper that Judy would try to confuse his mind into believing he was someone else, after he had saved Laura. The Fireman, like God is aware of the future, so he knew what kind of shit Judy would use to confuse Coop and Laura. She fell for it and believed she was Carrie Page (the missing page) but at the end, by asking the year, Coop breaks the illusion, the electricity fades and Laura remembers who she is.
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>>87312675
>he says his binoculars killed somebody
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>>87313146
>>87313146
>>87313146
>>87313146
>>87313146
NEW THREAD
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It's amazing, we finally know about Judy.
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>>87313143

>>87313143

>>87313143

New thread fellers
>>
Thread is moving so fast no one will know that I'm gay.
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>>87313039
I think everyone except for Coop and One Punch Brit were entranced and didn't quite see what happened.
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>>87313132
He was a tulpa
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>>87313038
He just saw concentrated evil in the form of a meteor come out of his doppelgangers body which then got punched to bits by a brit with a superglove. I think he was too busy to woprry about someone he hasn't seen in 25 years.
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>>87311971
based rating poster
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>>87313151
He did.
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>>87312823
Yes it is. All their lives in the original series and FWWM the relationship was professional.

Unless they became best buds, then lovers when trapped in the black lodge for 25 years there's no reason for DianexCoop to exist.
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>>87312730
How about when she was describing Booper's rape?
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>>87313166
>>87313173
oops i made one too lol

>>87313177
>>
Guys, I just wanted to thank you for the last months. Especially the threads today and last night were amazing. Lynch is fucking great and making stories with an "undecidable" narrative structure, which means there are multiple ways to interpret it when you realize that something is not really what it seemed to be. I really enjoyed all of your theories and your discussion here. I really whished it wasn't over yet.
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>>87312695

He wanted to kill Cooper to prevent being sucked back into the Lodge.
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>>87313173
>vedderfags are newfags

who would have guessed
>>
Fucking hell this thread didn't even last 30mins lads
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>>87313199
>he didn't see the missing pieces scene
skipfag
k
i
p
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>>87312947
>What did they drive 430 miles away from?
Twin Peaks, I guess. The point wasn't "drive 430 miles in this direction." They went to coordinates, and it happened to be 430 miles. This is like in season 2 with clues like the smiling bag. The giant gives clues that Cooper will find to be true. This assures him he is on the right path.
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>>87313132
When he and Diane went through the barrier after 430 miles, something happened to Cooper.

I think the Good Cooper and the Bad Dopplecoop were sort of merged into one, like what Andy sees in the Fireman's montage.
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>>87313080
>honestly it feels especially odd to me how Lynch explicitly gave us closure for those characters but then neglected to do so for anybody else.

It's the final clue.
The real Cooper returned to Janey-E and Sonny Jim in the original timeline.
The tulpa he asked to be manufactured was the one that went with Diane to another timeline, that explains why he's so different and almost a weird mix of Booper's Evil, Cooper's Good and Dougie's ability to fuck everything up.
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>>87312999
Thank you for activating my almonds on this. Really interesting stuff.
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>>87312868
>trying this hard to like something that is objectively and purposefully shitting down your throat
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>>87312935

The name of the magazine was Wrapped In Plastic and it was real.

Fucking newfags.
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>>87311948
It sure is a mystery
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>>87313268
oh shit i really like that theory anon
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>>87313268
fucking things up is something all coopers do
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>>87313140
I really like this interpretation. Especially the last few lines.
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>>87312947
>why why why why
Not all scenes are shown in chronological order in this show
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>>87312285
worked on my machine
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>>87313281
How is it shitting down my throat? Do you have a set of formal rules hanging up in your room that TV isn't allowed to make you feel uncomfortable, etc. and literally go into an autistic fit if it breaks them?
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>>87312711
>Leo's hair
What the fuck
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>>87312999
literally the point of no return

"you dont ever want to know about that"
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>>87313204
we literally meme'd a better rape description months be for that 90 second scene where she says he raped her and shakes a little bit
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>>87313038

I'm more pissed he didn't say anything to Albert or Hawk.
>>
>>87312798
What was Coop trying to achieve in the police station though? If the whole process was for Sarah and Evilcoop meeting, why didn't they just simply meet before without going through all these shenanigans? And is Judy really Sarah? When did that fucking happen?
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>>87312711
>90s aesthetics

fuck me dude
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>>87313449
try to keep up please
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>>87313368
I just want to understand it so I can be cool
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>>87313449
maybe judy could only inhabit sarah after she had stewed on her horrible experiences for ~25 years

doesnt explain why badcoop hadnt found her yet though
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>>87312772

Oh, fuck right off. I get why the ending was controversial but god knows noone could have done something better or more interesting with this season than Lynch.
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>>87312823
I was kind of hoping he would get back together with Annie or Audrey to be honest.
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>>87313080
How could you forget Big Ed & Norma getting a happy ending
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>>87311971
it doesn't get any bluer
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>>87313449
>why didn't they just simply meet
What do you think the glass box was for, Mother was in her own dimension, she broke through only recently and then possessed Sarah (Mr. C is not omniscient, he couldn't have known where she went)

Also I'm not sure how Judy would like to meet him, since like I've said in the previous thread, she HATES men.
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I don't see whats not to get, Coop never went back through the 'portal'..... thats why he ended up in the wrong place.
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>>87312212
This.
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>>87313594
yeah, certain characters got closure prior to episode 18, but then a whole bunch didn't in the final episode for some reason. fair enough if Lynch wants to withhold closure, but just dishing it out every now and then seems arbitrary
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Explain:
>The Jane Levy cameo
>The Ashley Judd storyline
>The Amanda Seyfried storyline

I'll be here waiting.
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>>87312189
I loved it. Actually rewards paying close attention to S1+2+3 and FWWM.
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>>87312658
>>87312688
Where did Sarah being possessed by Judy come from?
Clearly she was possessed by the Jumping Man
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>>87313776
I won't
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>>87311980
Yes. The Return needed more casual filters.
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>>87313397
It's funny how it all actually makes sense when you stop to think about it
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>>87313180

I know, but I wont judge you.
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mfw after the finale
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>>87313039
Robert Forster is a god at playing characters who give no fucks
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>>87313623
So Judy didn't have an endgame. She was chillin?
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>>87313039
frank is based. anyone got a pic of him browsing fish jpegs?
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>>87313817
when mother broke through the glass box where do you think she went

the jumping man was never fully explained, his "appearance" is more likely to illustrate possession metaphorically than literally, either way, if you are right (you're not) even then he still would be just a puppet of judy, to contain sarah's psyche while she inhabits the body. the jumping man is as important as any lodge minor spirit, their presence serves only to show that there is something fishy going on and larger forces behind it.
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>>87313776
Great television.
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>>87313982
see this >>87311062
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Did we lose the real Coop in the Twin Peaks police department when he saw Diane and Coopers face was superimposed onto the screen? Seems like part of him went back to the lodge or something.

And then at the end he realised he hadn't returned to his universe or something.... anyone care to explain?
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>>87312893
She sends him earplugs in the second episode of the whole series tho...
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>I had the opportunity to meet Sabrina at this year's Twin Peaks Fest and I can assure you that this will be a very interesting event. She is extremely knowledgeable and very willing to answer questions. However, I must tell to you that she has warned me that there are still things she can't answer, despite the series finishing. Make of that what you will.
follow-up movie/season fucking confirmed
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>>87312893
Me too. DIAane
DIAry
It was reasonable, couldn't really imagine him saying "Dear Diary"
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>>87312177
I actually feel like I remember you back in May. I can't believe it's been this long.
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>>87312177
this kinda makes me glad my mom gave up after episode 2 despite liking the original show and even somewhat FWWM
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