/tpg/ - Twin Peaks General

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>no set design, feels empty and lifeless
>no interesting ideas for storylines and generally bad writing
>relies on gimmicks only instead
>those are unoriginal or just bad, unfortunately ("fuck you, albert", glove, andy and lucy, coordinates, riddles, ...)
>bad acting (Bell, Lynch, Horse, Robertson, Dern, ...)
>dull characters (one-dimensional at best)
>storylines and characters are introduced for no purpose
>everything is supposed to weirdly connect and make sense
>shot in digital in a way that doesn't compensate for the technology's disadvantages (looks bad)
>roadhouse scenes (out of place, badly shot, the songs, the bands, the extras, ...)
>student-tier storytelling/editing (characters are shown walking up complete sets of stairs)
>stretched out needlessly, long takes have no particular effect
>everything above is literally cringe-tier in concept and implementation
>obviously delusional and/or inexperienced fanbase perceiving it as particularly meaningful, complex or "deep"
>can't compare to the original series that doesn't have those problems (coherent/complex and beautiful sets, costumes and make-up/well shot/well acted/well written/magnificent multi-dimensional characters and character relations, music, storylines and gimmicks/creates a unique athmosphere as a result, changing the world of television forever whereas "the return" neither manages to do something established really good nor to invent something new)
>somehow the best thing in tv history

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we get to experience 5 different realities related to Laura Palmer (referred to from now on as):
1) The first "real world" in which Laura Palmer is killed and Dale Cooper comes to Twin Peaks (the universe of the first season and at least most of the second)
2) An amalgam world of the "real world" and Audrey's dream world, connected by the roadhouse (characters walk in and out of the dream world as a connected entity via the roadhouse).
3) The brief existence of the world in which Dale Cooper saves Laura Palmer, which is then destroyed.
4) The new "real world" in which Laura Palmer disappears instead of dying, which we see in only three scenes (the road after the day/night switch, the motel, and the scene where Pete fishes).
5) The new "dream world" in which real world Laura is trapped in Odessa Texas as a different person. So it turns out the woman in the Palmer house is the real life owner of that house. Maybe that means the "dream world" is our world, and the reason we see it lose light is because once Laura breaks out of it she no longer exists in our world.
SO: The Atomic experiment creates Judy, who is inherently untied from time and who creates a servant (Bob) who is a being of pure id to serve her needs.

Did anyone else find it weird how Coop's face still stays superimposed, even after you turned off the screen and closed your eyes?
It's been here for over 12 hours now. It's getting weird now. I want him to go away;_;

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Admit he was right. Now.

>you're going back in tomorrow, and I will be with BOB again.
but who was phone in ep 1 ??

>tfw can't find a magnet for E18
goddamn it I want to rewatch it so bad

>>87305511
>not liking based hawk
just go m8

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Don't mind me, just posting best girl that everyone forgot about

anyone rewatching FWWM tonight?

>>87305511
>lel mom i posted it again

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>we literally had the VERY LAST SCENE OF THE SERIES spoiled for us back in 2015
>it didn't even matter because no one could have seen this coming

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/10/twin-peaks-leak-video-laura-palmer/

Fucking Lynch.

BAD THINGS COME IN SMALL PACKAGES

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4NWOyPp1yg

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Apologize.

FMK Candie Mandie Sandie.

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Explain to me how this ending was 'bad'

no
>muh unanswered questions

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>The Palmer house is owned by Alice Tremond
>Previously owned by Chalfont

Dude you just got Desmond'd!

>>87305574
this. i've always been pissed that I knew about this scene and then I got completely lynched. wew.

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Congrats guys!

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>>87305497
FOR HEEEEERE AM I SITTING IN A TIN CAN

>>87305572
>Laura was actually screaming at Cooper in the woods
>Her wig was factored into things by matching up with the S3 scene 25 years later

How the fuck does Lynch plan all of this in advance like that? That scene lynched me harder than anything else this season

Was it always RR Cafe?

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This was the spookiest thing I've ever seen.

>>87305543
We're living in a dream anon.

>>87305574
no wonder they went apeshit over spoilers and nearly shut down the dugpa forums

>>87305511
PARTY KIKERS GETTING GASSED TONIGHT

>>87305604
W-we did?!?

The arm repeats Audreys quote "Is it the story of the little girl who lived down the lane? IS IT?" from when she fought with Charlie in a previous episode. What does it mean?

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>all those people saying Sheryl Lee looked like shit at the beginning of the season

APOLOGIZE

>>87305634
Yeah that shit put me inte some kind of state that made everything after if feel very strange.

So what was the thematic link between Tracey and that dude fucking in the opener, and Coop/Diane fucking in the finale?

What is the point of Cooper as a character, especially as a force of goodness, when everything he does ends up hurting others and dooming him to a horrible fate? What is Lynch trying to tell us through him?

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I have to go now. My planet needs me.

>Laura Palmer was created to counter Judy. But Judy had a plan. Her child BOB was to taint & finally possess Laura. She possessed Sarah Palmer to ensure this happened.

>In FWWM, Laura defeats this plan via her own death. But to do this, she bound herself to the Black Lodge. But she was still needed to destroy Judy. And so Dale was given the means to go back in time and rescue Laura from death. He did this, erasing her death. Judy saw this happen and attacked Laura’s photo, and Laura herself. Laura was torn from Dale in the past, and from the Black Lodge. Judy sent Laura to another level of the dream: a new reality. Here she was corrupted again, remade into a killer. She was once again made like the pale horse: dark within.

>Dale still believes she can destroy Judy. He brings her to Twin Peaks; he hopes to kill 2 birds with 1 stone: return Laura to herself by destroying Judy. But when they arrive, the Twin Peaks of this parallel universe has already been tainted beyond repair. Chalfont & Tremond are the names used by a Black Lodge spirit: the grandmother. Laura is awakened to herself when she recognizes this darkness, the same darkness that has finally corrupted her. Dale and his allies have failed. Humanity’s evil is too great.

>Reality works like a dream. Parallel universes follow the logic of one dream giving way to another. Judy is slowly devouring the dream, as we devour ourselves. Our goodness, personified by Dale and the Fireman, is ultimately not enough.

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>>87305574
I got LYNCHED thinking the scene was definitive proof Laura would get her happy ending after all

Why did I hurt myself like that

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I'm really blown away by the fact that so many people are complaining about Part 18, it was honestly one of the most riveting hours of The Return, and I can accept people not conceding to that but how the fuck was Part 17 better? Part 17 was awful before 18 came along and actually put it into place. The awful implications of where the story was going in 17 left me feeling so horrible before I booted up 18.

They made the right choice with that final episode, it was somber and served as a reminder that you can't undo anything, expecting Cooper expecting salvation at the end was a mistake, it was a mistake on the audiences expectations to think that this story had any larger significance than the abuse of a young woman.

What this season did was try and mislead audiences into thinking it did, thinking there was a significance to it, that things would wrap up and have resolution, that things could be undone, that altering the past is good.

No, at the end she still remembered it and they're now left in torment lost in a world that isn't their own.

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#ImpeachTrump
#BuyMyBook

>>87305634
Without Cooper's semitransparent face, this would've been a triumphant scene. Really eerie execution.

Also reminds me of his face in the promotional posters for The Return.

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APOLOGIZE. ADMIT HE WAS RIGHT. DO IT NOW YOU FUCKS. IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. HOW COULD IT BE MORE OBVIOUS.

>>87305666
there wasn't, that whole thing was just lynch commentary on "netflix and chill" culture

>>87305634
This is my favourite visual thing anyone has done on television this year.

JUDY IS POSITIVE ABOUT THIS

>Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

>>87305674
He was too arrogant for his own good. Either that or the point was that people like Cooper don't realistically exist, tying in with the idea that a large portion of the series was happening in Laura's dreams where people were actually concerned about her.

Alright enough pussyfooting around, let's talk about Judy.

>>87305601
Tremond's house
Formerly Chalfont's

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>>87305497
What will be the first sentence Lynch utters when the commentary track of the bluray plays?

>>87305663
B A B Y W A N T S T O F U C K

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This is DAVID KEITH PYNYA, a man who raped his daughter and killed his best friend!!!

>>87305543
Yep, I've already fapped twice

>>87305557
Judy speaking through Sarah (her avatar).

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>>87305723
I'm sorry

I just remembered where I had heard that "LAURAAA" scream before besides the pilot. It's on the Xiu Xiu album.

>>87305574
Was Sheryl Lee's screaming in that scene leaked by anyone? The only spoiler I ever saw was the video of them walking up to the house.

>>87305574
I swear to god I was thinking of this as this scene was building up, half of the time. By episode 17 I thought "eh, they probably scrapped it somehow". Then this was exactly it. It was so fucked up.

However imagine this:

>They stop talking with the new owner of the house and go outside
>Instead of the whole thing where Cooper is completely disoriented and confused, they walk up to the place where the person who recorded that leak would be
>They find this person with a camera or a phone, or whatever it was that was recording it
>They just all laugh and point at the camera, including the guy recording it
>Credits scene is just them laughing

Reminder that there's no dream world

Only dimensions that exist:

>Original Dimension
>The Lodges
>Carrie Page Dimension

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Friendly reminder that we witnessed the final missing Page from the secret diary of Laura Palmer last night.

>>87305760
>"So uh... I don't really feel the need to provide explanations for things."
>Proceeds to talk about the shooting of the show.

>>87305677
>>87305710
These are good posts

>>87305663
I thought it was jarring to have just watched the scenes from FWWM and then go to this, really shows how much time has passed.

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DAVID PYNYA is a rapist and a killer!!!

Agent Desmond, are you talking to me in code?

>>87305760
>Buy the book

>>87305663
I'm glad he got to make Sheryl act cutesy in that scene and not just depressing as Laura (even if that made the last shot all the worse)

>>87305760
"Dear viewer friend, you’re a mess. You need TM!"

>>87305710
It's basically the S2 ending but even crazier. Give it time, everyone will realize how great it was and regret they didn't enjoy it sooner.

>>87305543
that shit reminded me of that old optical illusion where you focus on one spot in an image and then you see an afterimage of Jesus' when you look at the walls

>>87305666
For a moment I thought we were watching parts of DoppleCoop's journey, he acted pretty similar but didn't have the complete black eyes so that threw me off.

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What did he mean by this?

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>>87305760
"And that's how I got away with raping my daughter and making a TV show about it"

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>yfw coop really went rouge in the wild wild west.

>>87305598
The Diane romance subplot was bad.

In FWWM and original series Diane and Coop relationship were professional. Why would Coop sent a doppelganger back to Naomi watts, and pick Diane as his sidekick in a mission to save Laura?

Say what you want about Annie, but it should've been either Annie or Audrey rather than Diane

>>87305574
I never saw it. No one mentioned it here the past year
Good for me

>>87305866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CulOGisvkvs

>>87305604
Go back and stay

>>87305666
The guard that disappeared had other intentions he gave ray the ring let fucking in front of the box happen which brought the experiment into it. Since NO ONE was allowed in there, that fucked up, and Boop had to find another way to JUDAY and most of the season was boop ending the billionaire/box subplot, and getting a new way to joodai. The fucking thing came from marks book, apparently Crowley did sex rituals the same way.

>>87305805
Original dimension is TV
The Lodges are metaphysical
Carrie Page dimension is reality

Does anyone aside from Carrie Page and the Tremond actually say their name in episode 18?

Cooper could be Richard and Diane being Linda aren't too far-fetched if Laura is Carrie. They might have had a completely different relationship then what we saw. But the more important part is the doppelganger that Diane sees.

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>every time Lynch is forced to return to Twin Peaks he makes Laura Palmer's story more horrifying and depressing
>Just like we won't let the series rest, he keeps making her fate worse along with it

I hope there's not a season 4. I just want to imagine that Carrie Page was a tulpa who ultimately had nothing to do with Laura.

what happen to audrey

>>87305674
It's to show a more realistic take on pure, innocent hero types who want to save everyone. Cooper's good intentions are a strength just as much as they are a weakness. He literally had the best possible ending in 17; he got the girl, saved the world and made so many new friends along with meeting his own led ones, but that wasn't enough because Laura was still "suffering" so he had to give her a happy ending.

So he decided to trust spirits/demons with a track record for being deceitful and went back and overcomplicated things, and surprise, he ruined things for everyone. Now no one gets a happy ending.

>>87305953
>audreyfags still alive
wew lad

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Imagine being a pleb that watched the season expecting a nice and satisfying ending and not one of the best lynching experiences of the century. I haven't felt like this since I saw Mulholland Drive for the first time. I'd rather have the bone chilling horror of that final scene (Coop panicking, that otherworldly scream coming from the house, Laura screaming and lights going off, those ending credits) than any "coffee and cherry pie" scene for the finale. This one is on par with "How's Annie?" imo.

>>87305953
raped into insanity by Mr. C

>>87305897
Not directed by Lynch, not canon.

>>87305805
>Reminder that there's no dream world

So who is the dreamer then? And if not a world, then what is being dreamed?

>>87305984
>I hope we get a conventional resolution
yikes

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>tfw Twin Peaks was about fate all along

So it basically turned into JoJo

>>87305674
That Cooper's good intentions can't save anyone, he's essentially so arrogant and headstrong about saving Laura and the town in general that he doesn't acknowledge the fact that his meddling against supernatural forces is an impossible battle.

Even in the very end, the only thing he gleams from the fuckiness of going to the Palmer house is that he doesn't know what year it is. Time has nothing to do with it, he's in a whole other reality.

>>87305634
Lucy is cute for 63

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Audrey forever in last place

I've really enjoyed this season. It's been a hell of a ride. But I still think that too much was left to speculation. I mean, I can appreciate things being left to interpretation but there's just SO MUCH left to interpretation this season. It feels like an incomplete journey.

>>87305711
>Trump nukes Pyongyang and we get 5 more seasons of Twin Peaks with smoking gook hobos

>>87305991
Andy looks sorta hot here?

since diane is naido, what is diane/Linda's connection to mother? they "live" together in the mauve zone don't they?

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EXPLAIN ME THE ENDING NOW

>we can't talk about (((Judy)))
>Coop talks about (((Judy)))
>the fabric of reality falls apart

Is lynch making a commentary on the redpill?

>>87305595
Fuck Sandie, Kill Mandie, Marry Candie

>>87306034
Its because he doesn't have the beanbag chair underneath his shirt.

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>>87306034
He's been looking like a parody of himself in a SNL sketch this whole season desu.

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Who /still cries when they see the James & Laura forest scene from FWWM/ here?

>>87305984
Interesting. Among Lynch's abstract films, i've always thought Mulholland Drive is the most accessible and coherent film

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Why was one of the woodsmen in the room with them?

So did buela help boop by making ray daria and jack out of the 3 out of 4 dog legs?

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This is when James stopped being cool.

>>87306022
Josie was the true best waifu

>>87306056
Fuck you, Albert.

>>87305658
I guess Audrey is the arm or something. Maybe she is the dreamer.

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>>87305984
This. Once Jeffries showed up as a teapot (and really even earlier) the idea of a regular ending and plot lines being wrapped up jumped out the window.


>>87306016
I think he's being sarcastic.

Sheryl Lee still a cutie imo

>>87306090
It is. Most people are brainlets.

I think Wild at Heart might actually be Lynch's best work because it's the only one to have a conventional resolution instead of "lol Im David Lynch go fuck yourself you pleb"

>>87306107
If there's one thing that's consistent, is that James is incredibly dumb

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>>87306060
He warned us.

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>>87305864
There are far too many people that are crying about the implications of Part 17, without taking 18 into context.

I see so many people saying this has ruined the entire show by messing with the timeline and making Laura an angelic and god like figure, but did people not fucking pay attention to Part 18? It did everything in its power to deconstruct the idea that there is any significance to their story and that anything can be done to "save" anybody.

It was the bleakest hour of the entire show, the hour that felt the most like Fire Walk With Me. How could you finish that episode and think "Man, how could they do this? How could they undo her story and stomp on the original show"

That is absolutely not what it did. Look at how Cooper hopes to find resolution at the house, he's absolutely crushed to find that there is none for him. There is no ultimate answer, to simple solution, Cooper was out of his element he couldn't save Laura then, and he couldn't now.

Dale Cooper is a sad little man fixated on rescuing a dead girl.
So obsessed with her that he would destroy everyone's lives to bring her back

>>87306086
I LOVE YOU JAAAAAMES

Lynch did it. He got people to stop memeing and instead create a dialogue about the ending.

MC Ride was Alice Tremond's husband.

>>87305984
Everyone expected a simple bittersweet ending where Out of Sand starts playing as Coop realizes has lost all those years and friends, but the mystery would at least reach some conclusion.
Instead Coop refused to accept this and fucked with reality by trying to prevent Laura's death

>>87306010

The original timeline became a "dream" in terms of "if it doesn't exist, then it's fantasy, if it's fantasy, then it's a dream".

Cooper memories became "fantasy" because it's now a world that doesn't exist.

>>87305710
I kept thinking about how boring Coop was with his plot armour and how he knew everything that was going to happen
He works better in a setting where he's the detective trying to uncover the truth and not know exactly where everybody needs to be at the right time so he can tell everyone what to do
Then Part 18 just pissed on the omniscience he had and ripped everything apart and I can accept the seriousness of the situation a lot better, how a young girl was raped and abused her whole life before going insane and being murdered by her father and there's no way to ever resolve that. When the .WebM was around and showed Coop holding her hand and walking up there stairs, then the Russian leaks showing the synopses, I thought it was retarded that they resolve everything and Coop goes to save a reincarnated Laura Palmer and brings her home
Ultimately, I'm happy that even with all of that crap Lynch was able to subvert my expectations

>>87306091
The light in the corner is the same kind of light that they used in the convenience store/motel scene.

>>87305674
What's that line that Bobby says to Jacoby back in S1, where he quotes saying all the good people are rotten?

>>87306169
Maybe he should've give a damn about Teresa Banks and Ronette Polanski, the other victims of BOBs instead of obsessing over Laura

So, there were 2 Red haired Dianes?

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>>87306169
>W-who did SHE buy the house from?

This was so funny and sad at the same time.

>>87305604
>thinking it's a riddle you can crack, like fucking Westworld or Lost, instead of a direct audio-visual manipulation of viewers' feelings, with plot taking a backseat to atmosphere
Terrible. How can such people even exist on the same planet as us?

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>>87306138
It's not just your opinion, it's fact

>Dr Jacoby, Nadine and the shovels didn't mean a thing

LOL

>>87306151
Fix you heart or die Michael, you sick little midget

WHO THE FUCK IS JUDY?

WHAT HAPPENED TO SARAH?

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>>87306192
pic related leaked still of the season 4 finale

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> kyle maclachlan wont be nominated for Emmy award best leading actor/male

>>87306091
EP 18 really gave me some FWWM vibes in the sense that Odessa was all fucked up like Deer Meadow.

>>87306270

Plot device for Ed and Norma

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>>87305677
Sarah is a Judy?
#ohnothatsucks
#teamturkeyjerky

>>87306018
Not enough fruity poses.

>>87306270
Subplot that was completely resolved.

Next.

>>87305528
that woman is played by the real owner but she is not the real owner! She's a Tremond, people who have a history of pretending to own/live in houses that they don't actually. The rest of your post is a good theory but your 5th point is stupid

>>87305528
What a colossal waste of bandwidth that load of horseshit is.

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>>87306247
Glad i'm not the only one. That part made me really sad. Coop really had no fucking idea what he was doing.

How does the ending of FWWM tie into S3? I thought the ending of FWWM was supposed to be the very end and I thought S3 would elaborate on how Coop eventually saves Laura in that scene. Instead I got a bunch of nonsense that ended in the complete opposite way.

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f you look closely you can actually pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks in two.

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Okay, so Dougie is Coop, who is also Richard, who is also Doop, who is also BOB, who is also Leland, not to be confused with Bobby who is best friends with Mike, not to be confused with MIKE (who is the other half of The Man from Another Place, who is also a tree), who is also Phillip Gerard, not to be confused with Phillip Jefferies who is also a tea kettle. Then there's also Diane who is also not Diane, and she is also Linda. Sarah may or may not be Judy, and the Fireman may or may not be the Giant. Then there's also Laura Palmer, who looks a lot like Maddie, and she's also Carrie.

WHEN YOU WALK AWAY

>>87306270
whole point was to make Nadine realize how possessive she was towards Ed when it came to Norma.

don't understand why people are so fixated on the little points that didn't get wrapped up neatly even though there's enough in place to draw your own conclusions. this season was always going to be about cooper and laura

>>87306294
he obviously will

REAL QUESTION! HOW DID THE RED CHAIR LOOK IN ANDY AND LUCYS STUDY?!

Also I wanted wally to come back.

Are people so retarded that they think this was meant to represent Cooper fucking up in his arrogance? This is all part of the Fireman's plan since he knew about the Richard and Linda world. Coop just doesn't have the full picture yet.

>>87305666
Great love(which I guess can be strictly physical) and great horror open the gate. In S2 finale it was Annie's horror, in S3E1 and S3 finale it was love.

>>87306343
Laura was able to reach some kind of peace through her own death. Cooper came through in S3 and fucked it all up.

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>>87305711
The answerfag is an anti-Trump nutjob? Really activates ye olde almonds.

>>87306252
I don't know if I would say that about LOST. I watched it all at some point and at some points it felt more like they just forgot altogether.

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This was the plan since FWWM, right? The follow up movies would have gone in the same direction

Am I the only one who laughed at the fact that Cooper not only never acknowledged James in the police station, but he was staring right by him at Naido for like a full minute while James was right next to her, waiting for Coop to look at him? Fucking kek

>another meme ending for brainlets larping as smart people

>>87306373
Who is the fireman?

>>87306414
go back to GoT

>>87306355
>the Fireman may or may not be the Gian
Only a retard that edits the Twin Peaks wiki would think that.

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So what did you guys think of this guy just being thrown in towards the end and saving the day?

>>87306414

t. brainlet who cant come up with his own interpretation of what he's experienced

>>87306400
Lost is definitely presented as a riddle. That the writers weren't clever enough to make it solvable, and rather opted for making every episode end with a cliffhanger, is another matter.

>>87306425
The bald giant got credited as the fireman so everyone started to call him that.

It is unclear whether the giant = the fireman

>>87305998
It's 100% for sure that she was in a coma after the bomb, and was raped by evil cooper while comatose.

The only thing that is unclear is whether she ever came out of her coma or not. Based on the white room she is stuck in, I'm guessing not

>>87306343
Episode 18 and the whole series drive home the point that time isn't linear in that final sense. Yes, at the end of FWWM Laura was saved but that wasn't forever. Past dictates the future, Cooper changed the past and thus dictated a different future.

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Who else was spooked as fuck? I'm sure those were supposed to be eyes.

>>87306414
>liking something and talking about it
like lmao dude. nice bait btw, here's your (you.)

>>87305674
But he fixed everything in the end...

>>87306438
As soon as he was introduced I figured he would punch Mr. C, Bob, or Judy/Experiment and kill them. It's cheesy but I don't have a problem with it.

>>87305797
>"What year is it?"
>Gordon Cole shows up
>"COOPER, THIS IS NEITHER DREAM OR REALITY. IT IS A MOTION PICTURE. ZOOM BACK CAMERA."
>camera pans out to reveal the crew
>(speaking now as Lynch) "Twin Peaks is over. We return to the real world now."
>everyone walks out
>starring kyle maclachlan

>>87306377
Love opens the White Lodge gate. Fear opens the Black Lodge gate.

>>87305497
Does Cooper still exist? Do you think there will be a season 4? Would Showtime be on board?

>>87306252
Lost wasn't even a solvable riddle. They ponzied that it was and then tried to invoke kino to keep up the illusion that they should have jobs. This was just basically six Fire Walk With Me sequels done in the same surreal fashion.

Just want to say. Grace Zabriskie was legit my favorite part of S3.

>>87306206
No proof of that

>>87306451
I'm just saying, at some points it felt rather cheap.

I don't watch the show, did it really end with Cooper escaping from TV?

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>tfw you have no idea what you're doing and are about to end up in another hell for who knows how many years

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Ever since FWWM, the names Tremond and (especially) Chalfont have been a chilling, dread-filled omen that something really really terrible is happening.

Seeing Cooper helplessly try to save his failed plan only to be confronted with Tremond and Chalfont was bleak as hell.

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Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Eddie Vedder recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Agent Cooper never gets his mind back. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://youtu.be/pXth84G7dkM

>>87305557

Sarah

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At least we had one resolution.

>>87305574
IS IT FUTURE OR IS IT PAST

>>87305806
>Friendly reminder
Disregard everything you say, lol.

>>87306090
>not elephant man
>not eraserhead
>not blue velvet
>not straight story
>not wild at heart

>>87306401
Lol no. Back in FWWM era Judy was going to be Josie's sister.

>>87306438
Eh, to be honest it could've been worse. He seemed like a pretty cool guy. Punches evil and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>87306438
I liked it desu. It was pretty silly and kind of felt like a superhero parody.

>>87305711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZg8E72xXFA

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>>87306169
>>87306340
Throughout the entire show, Cooper has been a very kind, easily pleased, somewhat naive everyman who had a vague connection/psychic power with another layer of reality outside his understanding. This otherworld has given him cryptic clues that allow him to help his world in small, relatively earthly ways. The whole point of the ending is that he started to believe he, as a human/mortal was more than insignificant and when he tried to fuck with forces he didn't understand and REALLY do something outside his comprehension he utterly fucked everything up.

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>>87306475

>>87306525
But it never happened because Coop changed the past

>>87306517
>Confirms Cooper never gets back to twin peaks
>(pic is texas)

Why are people trying to line up all the threads and "solve" the plot.

The point of the show isn't to weave complex layered narrative with a riddle to crack.

>>87306499
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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>>87306525
the finale proved that dougie was the best version of cooper

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Honestly, how does it feel knowing you got owned so hard by this fucking gremlin? I'm laughing my ass off at all you sheep.

>>87305511
>complaining about how everything is supposed to make sense
???

>>87305953
Raped, while in a coma?
Had a demon babby?
Married a demon man?
Had to guest star on Psych?
Audrey had a hard life.

>>87306246
One was her sister, Janey-e

>>87306464
Interesting little tidbit:

The headlights following them look very similar to the circular headlights of the car that Cooper & Diane were driving in the night before.

>>87306485
Agreed, every one of her scenes was spooky and terrifying in a fucked up way even tho nothing much happened besides her face killing some dude at the bar kek.
Judy doesn't fuck around.

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We should have never talked about Judy.

>>87306438
I think they put him in as a way to point a mirror to the plebs. I've read all these idiotic reviews, like those by Alan Sepinwall, where they kept expecting Dougie to turn back into Cooper so he could go back to Twin Peaks and face Evil Cooper in a climatic battle. The opinion of a complete idiot who has no idea what TP(especially post-FWWM TP) is about.
I think this guy, and the BOB punching scene, was put in as a way of criticizing guys like that. Like, 'is this really what you want?'

>>87306475
>"It's just a prank"

>>87306485
My biggest blueballs of S3 is that we didn't get more of her than we did. Everything they did with Sarah was fascinating and fucking great, but it never came to a climax. If Lynch ever does a continuation I dearly, dearly hope they revisit her.

>>87305674

Sometimes, there's simply nothing you can do to change things.

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What's her problem?

>>87306587
mja pls go

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>>87306138
this

>>87306456
he literally says "i am the fireman" to andy

>>87306622
She remembered. Cooper made her remember.

>Judy
>Judas
>Jew

How did Lynch get away from this?

>>87305634
legit felt like I just snorted a really bad line of ketamine

>>87306373
Exactly
Cooper is the eternal champion (except he ages so that didn't make sense) cleansing each alternate reality at a time

>>87306499
>"Diane..."

I was really expecting gottalight would do the same magic words over jacobys radio podcast

Why have a scene with Dougie reuniting with Janey-E if none of that happened anymore? We already knew about the time travel at that point and Laura being rescued. My only theory is that it is a sign that nothing actually changed in the real world and it was part of the lodge magic.

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>tfw currently unemployed reading Catching the Big fish

>So much of what happened to me is good fortune. But I would say: Try to get a job that gives you some time; get your sleep and a little bit of food; and work as much as you can. There's so much enjoyment in doing what you love. Maybe this will open doors, and you'll find a way to do what you love. I hope you do.

>I hope you do.

>>87306579
it's literally a mystery about a detective in the FBI

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>>87306138
I want to HUG Carrie!

>>87305710
But the "you can't change the past" is there when Coop loses Laura in the woods. And we got to see Pete Martell one more time. I loved it.

>>87305634
>tfw it's the same face he makes when he realises he fucked up in ep18

>>87305710
good post

>>87306438
Reminder that James went through the same door as Cooper and Diane

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>>87306475
>Jodorowsky cries as the man who got to make a Dune movie steals his famous ending

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>Jeffries: Do you have a Miss Judy staying here by any chance?
>Man: This is for you. La seniorita... the young lady, she left it for you
How was Judy a young lady and what was on the paper she left for Jeffries?

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How come it created a hard shadow where it would've been beaming solid light? What did it mean?

So Carries initials are CP, does this have any meaning?

>>87306138
she aged the best of the original women for sure, Madchen is close but I'm pretty sure she's had light plastic surgery

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>>87305528

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>>87306022
>couldn't get into lauras pants like everyone else could
What a shit character.

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>lynch shitting on muh escapism
>lynch subverting audience's expectations of characters
>people being surprised

TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

>>87305675

NOTE: coop died on the way back to his home planet

>>87306703
Could've been a reference to Señorita Dido from the White Lodge.

>>87306622
She left her wallet in Odessa

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>recorded scratch
>freeze frame
>your probably wondering how I get into this situation huh?

HELL GOD BABY DAMN NO

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>reminder that Chuck will never get his mind back and will forever be trapped in a suck & fuck limbo

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Is episode 18 the creepiest thing to have aired on television?

>>87306703
it's obvious that Judy was meant to be something/someone else at that point in the story.

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>>87306340
>>87306352
That look she gives here fucking crushed me, like she knew something was horribly wrong but like Cooper she was entirely displaced

>>87306401
Some of it
But some of it is lynch laughing at the fans obsessing over Judy in fwwm
And also it's changed with the way lynch ends his films
This is close to inland empire whereas original series was closer perhaps to mulholand drive

>>87306707
It's a clue you are watching a dream world.

>>87306290
MC RIDE IS THE DREAMER

>>87306525
>the real Cooper is living his life as dougie
>the tulpa is stuck with carrie

>>87306622
She realized there was a dead man in her house

>>87306499
I don't know, I think part of the magic of the ending is that literally anything could happen after those lights go off.

I saw James Hurley at the R&R in Twin Peaks yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay my bill up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen cups of coffee without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the coffees and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually because "It all makes some kind of terrible sense that she died… that someone killed her. I don’t know. I can’t explain it.”and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even know who he was talking about. After she scanned each cup of coffee and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by singing the words "Just You and I" really loudly, and then he took off in his hog.

>>87306707
the switch was for the ceiling light my dude

>>87305711
(((Frost)))

>>87306373
>muh Cooper is perfect he didn't do anything wrong!

Cooper fucking up has been reiterated by this show over and over

>>87306776
Inland Empire had a conclusive ending even if you can't make sense of the rest of the movie.

>>87306766
the entity we saw emerge from the glass box and who was in ep 8 was Judy

>>87305792

What song?

>>87306765
Not really. The final 5 or so minutes were pretty spooky, but the original series had far more unsettling scenes.

Are you looking forward to the mandatory "fan edit" that adds Badalamenti music to all scenes are cuts the Audrey parts?

>>87306758
>The poor dope! He always wanted a Laura. Well, in the end, he got himself a Laura - only the price turned out to be a little high. Let's go back about six months and find the day when it all started.

>>87305910
>not wanting to bite Diane's rock solid nipples
Subplot was badly needed

Can you imagine if MatPat knew twin peaks existed?
the horror...

>>87305677
CORRECT

JUDY WON

FUCK THE FAGGOTS WHO ARE STILL BELIEVING "IT WAS ALL JUST A DREAM"

>>87306514
Wasn't there that moment in the original run when Donna went to see Mrs Tremond only for a different woman going by the same name to open the door?

>I am the arm and I sound like this
Twice we were told. TWICE and they didn't even use it, never even heard the sound. Why???

>>87306707
It was for the ceiling light as said but yeah I did think that lamp was somewhat intentionally placed

>>87306615
exactly my thought, especially considering the fact that they got that whole scene out of the way in the first ten minutes. That part and then all the new and old characters standing there together celebrating were definitely Lynch mockingly making a stupid ending that dumb people want. People unironically wanted Bob to get punched to death and Coop to just live happily ever after with everyone.

>>87306572
>implying it doesn't all still exist as its own timeline

So what exactly did Doppelcoop wanted? Dale and the double were going for the same objective at the end but one was carrying Bob and the other Laura.

Why does nobody mention how strange it is that Cooper still acts as quirky as before he entered the lodge?

>>87306770
Both believing that something big would happen when they knocked on that door and it being fucking nothing felt so strange. I sure as hell got fucking LYNCHED.

GODDAMN WHAT A POWERFUL ENDING, CAN'T FUCKING STOP THINKING ABOUT IT, AND NONE OF THE FEELINGS ARE GOOD FEELINGS.

>posting in the final /tpg/

W-wait. So was it a happy or sad ending? I don't see how it could have ended badly, the giant set Coop up for this, surely that is what was supposed to happen... It seems to me like Laura remembered and will wake up from the fake Odessa reality. So it was a success right? Coop didn't fuck everything up eternally did he? How could that have happened?

>>87306387
Did you miss the Texan cowboy Trump voters getting btfo?
In fact the whole pissing on Texas as a state with its neglect whilst having assault rifles etc lying about is pissing on Trump heartland

I spent 8 hours thinking about the fucking ending. I need to stop this

So can we agree the gangster brothers were the best characters in the show?

BluRay when?

>>87306862
Someone pointed out that when he creates Dougie, he loses that quirkiness.

The REAL question Cooper/Richard should have asked Tremond is if she had a daughter... and if she is still alive.

>>87306770
>her smile and optimism: gone

>>87306813
What's the actual evidence to support this?

>>87306252
LOST IS ABOUT THE CHARACTERS
NO ONE KNOWS FOR CERTAIN SO ITS ALL THE SAME TO ME
JUST LET THE MYSTERY BE

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is this the best scene of season 3?

What always bothered me is how people took such insane supernatural shit, so well.

The blind asian lady was the first time any of the Twin Peaks PD saw anything seriously supernatural and weird, and they were all just like ok. Then during the Bob-Sphere sequence the two casino guys were just like 'woah man,' instead of having a melt down

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HAHAHAHA What the fuck was this hat shenanigans?
>slide whistle plays

>>87306875
Coop won in the original reality by ensuring BOB got killed which was the giant's goal
Going back in time to change things was not part of the giant's MO

>>87306779
WHEN YOU COME OUT YOUR SHIT IS GONE
IM IN

What's the significance of the owners of the Palmer's house being called Tremond and the previous being called Chalfont? We know those are the names of the old lady and her grandson in Twin Peaks and in Deer Meadow.

>>87305760
>We're never going to make a sequel to explain any of this shit

>>87306931
But WHO WAS HEADLIGHTS?

>>87306921
fireman shows andy the ceiling memories it shows the scene from that box followed by the thing cumming bob into space. So we can assume they are the same.

>>87306939

Just fucking imagine how great this scene would have been with Harry.

Frank Truman was the worst character in the whole series.

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Why didn't Cooper just accept the fact that Carrie wasn't Laura but was the next best thing and have her be the "beautiful woman" he talks about wanting to make love to and settle down with in S2

I mean Coop is clearly obsessed with Laura, just take her physically being back as good enough and live with that

Why Cooper, why.

>>87306939
>hulk hands boxing match with a basketball
>looney tunes jumping hat

lynch can do whatever he wants, the ultimate emperor's new clothes, and everyone will praise him

>>87306961
>What's the significance of the owners of the Palmer's house being called Tremond and the previous being called Chalfont?

To show how in the new reality that Black Lodge influence abounds

>>87306964
cooper and diane

>>87306939
Really felt cheap that DoppelCoop didn't kill any relevant characters

>>87306940
>Going back in time to change things was not part of the giant's MO
But it is. The giant/fireman were talking about 430 and Richard/Linda

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>>87305595
Fuck Mandie
Kill Sandie
giv Candie

>>87306977
>Frank Truman was the worst character in the whole series.

That's just false desu

>>87305904

Friendly reminder that it's been confirmed that Lissie recorded a song that plays during the Twin Peaks finale. It confirms Agent Cooper goes rogue and loses everything in Texas. (Pic is evil Cooper)
Listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwiywQBjjEk

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>>87306703
it's a deleted scene, just because some of the deleted scenes were reused and made canon doesn't mean they all are.

>>87306671
You are correct. Only edgelords think Cooper fucked up realoty because
>hehe there are no heroes and you can't save everyone, kiddo

What's the deal with these depressing non endings in the west lately ? First Half Life episode 3 and now this ? It's so similar and comes at the same time...

>>87306963
>we're going to make a sequel and still not explain any of this shit

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>>87306931
this was IMO, spooked the fuck out of me

>>87306572

No, Coop himself went into another timeline. Everyone in the main timeline is fine, they'll just never see real coop again.

>>87306940
Yes it was, he specifically told him about 430 and Richard and Linda

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean

>Bad guy kills the Main cast except for one kid
>Bad guy speeds up time
>Creates a new world where the Main cast is replaced by alternate copies
>Bad guy tries to kill the kid so he can create a new world again without the kid
>Kid kills the Bad guy after he speeds up time again, creating a new alternate world.
>Kid meets with the Main cast again, but notices that while they share the same personality, dreams and attitude from those of the original world, they have a different life story
>The kid becomes an outsider, as he's the only character of the original world to live in the new one.

Episode 17-18
>Cooper beats the bad guys except for Judy
>Cooper travels into the past to save Laura
>While traveling into the past, Judy (Sarah Palmer) "kills" Laura.
>Creates a new world where everyone is replaced by alternate copies.
>Cooper becomes an outsider of this new universe.

Cooper's Bizarre Adventure

>>87307003
Welcome to Trump's America

>>87306985
no relevant character has been killed in all of s3 unless you count those whose actors died

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>post yfw we didn't get to see based Harry in season 3

>>87306988
430 and Richard/Linda were different in the original timeline
Coop fucked up

>>87306816
doppleDiane was spookier than anything in the first run

>>87306673
>lol just be urself it worked for me

>>87306939
brief homage to Sergio Leone

>>87306703
Judy was possessing Josie's sister at the time who also had the name Judy.

>>87307003

Half Life 2 EP 3 never came out you idiot. Some writer leaked what the script was before it was scrapped. Do you have any other examples other than this autistic shit you just sperged up?

>>87307017
post the webm of Harry screaming PUT THE GUN DOWN

Does anyone know what Mr C was doing exactly? He was going into the White Lodge only to get put by the Sheriff Station? And he says "What is this?" when he sees the Sheriff Station as if that wasn't supposed to happen. What was his end game?

>>87306671
I think it was more of an alternate reality thing, Dougie was recreated and sent back to Janey but in another reality Cooper (or whoever the hell that was) was with Carrie

>>87306807
This. If you aren't aware by now that Cooper is and has always been a massive fuck up you're either a skipfag or someone who completely glossed over the most important part of Coop's character.

>>87306979
>lynch can do whatever he wants, the ultimate emperor's new clothes, and everyone will praise him
and he knows this. it's the point of the "dougie scribbles all over his work and bushnell somehow finds meaning in it" scene

>>87307014
>>Creates a new world where everyone is replaced by alternate copies.
No.

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>>87307046

>>87306977
But the whole premise only works because Frank never actually met Coop.

>>87306765

No. S2 finale was considerably creepier.

>>87307048
To inflitrate the White Lodge to get to Judy.
But Briggs is there with a cage and he gets redirected to the Station.

>>87307052
Lynch is a skipfag though

>>87306992
>>87306977
tammy is and was the worst acting to be done in the series
>muh thicc
there are literal pornstars that can act better

>>87307030
That wasn't spooky at all. Laura's killer reveal scene was infinitely more unsettling.

>>87307014
Don't compare the return to the worst part of jojo

>>87307009
Was waiting for something to come up alongside the car.

PUT IT DOWNNNNNNNNNN

>>87306931
At least up there. It showed what Lynch is best at: mood.

>>87307083
That makes sense.

>>87307068
Ontkean's yelling is so bad.

>>87306828
yeah it's pretty sad how he wont do a video on it considering his videos are pretty great

>>87305663
I want to impregnate that fifty year old.

>>87307068
Thanks. My father laughed hysterically at Micheal's acting in this scene.

>hooray we killed Bob now let's undo this so I can get my Laura Palmussy

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>>87307014
>Creates a new world where everyone is replaced by alternate copies.
>Cooper becomes an outsider of this new universe.
Wait, is this just the ending to Mystery Incorporated?

>>87307087
Tammy ain't even thicc. She's tall lanky lizard women. She has wide hips, yeah, but her ass still flat.

>>87307097
Someone needs to edit Josie's death scene with Harry's face superimposed like Cooper's in BOB's death scene.