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Blood of the Dragon edition

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>>87227435
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/Ourprimeminister/
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traps are not gay
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>>87230448
>wanted to strangle Cat after the first book tbqh
I always found her reaction there believable. Always found it weird how much people hated Catelyn more than I did given I hate my irl mum.
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Wintahz cummin
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Remember when Baelish saw Arya working for Tywin and nothing ever came of it?
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/got/
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YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT LOVE IS
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aagghhh...
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>>87230502
ARYA PLEASE TELL HER HOW I DIDN'T TURN YOU IN

SHANSHA PLS
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>>87230506
>Ned, put on this dress so I can practice my wedding to Lyanna
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>>87230506
>LIKE A SUMMER ROSE
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I wish bobbyposting wasn't dead
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dany
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How can westerosi even compete?
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>>87230505
how do their bears grow so nicely
i have a patchy beard with hair growing out of my eyes literally
look at this chad, his beard is nowhere near his cheekbones
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So Jon dies (for real) in S8 right?
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>>87230506

GODS I LOOKED LIKE A FAGGOT THEN
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>>87230613
No
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>>87230603

spoilers: they shave those bits
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>>87230620
>A MAKING THE EIGHT ARMY NATION COULDN'T HOLD ME BACK
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>"Jon why didn't you just fucking lie to Cersei?"

>"Look, it may have gotten my father killed, and it may have even gotten me killed, but it's more important that I stick to my guns and be completely honest for no conceivably productive reason because if I know one thing, it's that I got this far somehow, so I must be doing something right in all those situations where I won completely in spite of every single one of my decisions"

>"Jon I really relate to your strategic abilities, fuck me now"

They really nailed the chemistry desu
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>>87230600
>Romans
How can rest of the world even compete?
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>>87230560
>GODS I WAS GAY THEN
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>>87230584
D A N Y
A
N
Y
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>>87230563
As long as it lives on in your heart, it's not truly dead
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>>87230659
Yeah we sucked each other off, but BY GODS we were MEN Ned!
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>>87230563
So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide.
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How do you deal with knowing we're going to have to have at least 500 days of shitposting ahead of us until season 8?
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>>87230546
UNCLE
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>>87230705
>Two books at one time
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>>87230600
I don't think he said that
Provide source
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>>87230651

What Jon did was stupid, but Cersei was never going to help anyway. Jon also sent a raven to Sansa that stated that he bent the knee. It literally didn't matter what he said to Cersei at that point.
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>>87230705

I've watched season 1-5 in the past 5 days, so watch a season per day for 500 days I guess
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>>87230600
>there is no gene for cruelty
>it's in their blood

God I hate that stupid fat smug hack.
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>>87230754

Too bad he didn't realize that before he got a dragon killed huh
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>>87230705
>How do you deal with knowing we're going to have to have at least 500 days of shitposting ahead of us until season 8?
Pretty damn good
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>>87230600
Did Aerion become a dragon? I think his logic was sound imo
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>>87230705
Rewatch every season and rework every phrase ever said into a meme.

Share good ost /got/
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cl76ev2GNdE
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>>87230734
NEPHEW AAAGGGHHH SAVE ME
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The drama between the two Stark sisters was complete fucking red herring.

I feel kind of mad for being tricked like that, just to create a surprise twist.
It's hard to explain, but I feel like the director makes a fool out of me when he does that shit.
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>>87230802
Modern Day Isaac is the Night King
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>>87230705
Feels good man. Shitposting on /got/ is the only thing that keeps me going.
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>>87230784

And you know that Viserion was going to live if Jon got on Drogon how?

Why are people blaming Jon for Tyrion's stupid plans? Jon is dumb for going along with them, but he is not the one making the shitty plans.
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>>87230833
It wasn't though. Baelish would have tricked them if demigodlordoflight Bran didn't fuck things up.

Say what you will about CIA, but it took Professor X to stop him. He did very well all things considered.
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>>87230833

It's unreal to me that anyone even took this seriously.

They could have put at least a shred of effort into not making it the most obvious misdirect ever, but they didn't even try to dress it up at all. It was literally "we're tricking Littlefinger teehee" the plot dragged out for like 2 or 3 eps.

I half expected them to give eachother big exaggerated winks and make sure to talk really loudly in the direction of some curtains with Littlefinger's feet sticking out under them.

After giving Sansa a speech about anticipating everything going wrong at the same time, not once does it occur to him to leave. Not once.
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>>87230833

It was suspenseful, but suspense should come from there being multiple, reasonable outcomes that would fit the character.

Instead it came from "are the the writers retarded enough to have this happen"
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>>87230935
>not once does it occur to him to leave. Not once.

How do you know?
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>>87230904

Wasn't it Jon who wanted to get 'proof' in the first place?

And the changes of Viserion living go up with Jon not just lounging there while NK loads up his ice spear.
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>>87230963

Because they never showed it, and because he was completely caught off guard.

Stands to reason if it had occurred to him he would either look a little less surprised or, you know, have left already.
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>>87230434
What do you guys think about the theory that Patchface was revived by the Drowned God who is the Great Other.
Is that the reason Melissandre thinks he is dangerous?
And what about his mysterious rhymes?
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>>87231022
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>>8723103
Melly is a smelly dumb hag who doesn't know shit.
I know. I know.
Hohoho.
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>>87231004
>Because they never showed it

How would they show his inner thought process? he can't talk about it because he doesn't trust anyone.

>because he was completely caught off guard

Yeah? that doesn't mean it didn't occur to him to leave. He simply chose not to because he didn't think it would happen.
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>>87231022
Will that be their children's sigil?
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>>87231067
Burn this fat retard
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>>87231067
*feeds you to the fires*
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>>87231106
Fires can't start under the sea the bald mermen jump out and slice off your cock.
I know. I know.
Hohoho.
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>>87230505
THE GREATEST SWORDSMAN WHO EVER LIVED GOT BACKSTABBED BY A FROG?
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>>87231088

They'd show him give some sort of look or take pause or show ANY consideration that maybe the starks aren't falling for it.

How could it occur to him to leave, ie he considers the fact that he could be in danger, and yet he "doesn't think it would happen." If if occurs to him, then he thinks it would.

And that's literally the speeches he gave:
1. assume everything has gone wrong
2. assume the worst intentions in people

That's his own advice right there. He made the mistake of exactly what he lectured Sansa about.
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>>87231168
*teleports behind you* is the ultimate move in GoT. It literally cannot be blocked or countered.
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>>87230961
That's it. Now I know why I'm so fucking mad at this.

The writers did the equivalent of "lolol I just trolled you, I was only pretending to be retarded all along".

>Sansa and Arya is arguing
>This looks forced as shit, do you really want me to believe this shit?
>Well I guess I will just roll along with your retarded plot since you're forcing it in that directiong
>Oh wow you sure tricked me all along
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>>87231022
damn the targ dragon is thicc
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>>87231182
>They'd show him give some sort of look or take pause

How would that communicate that he thinks about leaving?

He gave that speech to Sansa to make her paranoid. He obviously doesn't play this game, or at least choose the worst option, because he was fooled by Tyrion before.
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>>87230434
When will Edric Storm come back to claim his fathers Throne?
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>>87231275

Some 2 second scene where he's alone and he looks out a window at a horse or just contemplates a little or someone makes a comments about how Starks never turn on Starks. Something small to show he maybe harbors some doubts.

>He obviously doesn't play this game

which is my point. It's stupid.
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>>87230970

Jon did want to get proof. He also never came up with the Wight Hunt plan. That was Tyrion's idea. That was a stupid idea that was doomed to fail. Jon just went along with it. You might as well say that Jorah caused Viserion's death, because he was as equally culpable as Jon.

Also, Viserion having better odds of surviving and Viserion surviving are two separate things.

All Tyrion has to do is wipe his hands clean of the situation, and others will somehow manage to blame Jon for everything that goes wrong. It's truly baffling. The only good thing Tyrion has done this season is mediate a meeting between Jon and Dany, but people act like Jon is the moron. Jon is the only one keeping a Dany in check. Jon convinced Theon to grow a pair. Jon convinced Jaime to drop his psycho-bitch sister. Tyrion almost single-handedly lost Dany all of her allies in Westeros, including Jon. And then he starts brooding when she starts only listening to Jon, as if he somehow earned the right to give her advice.
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>>87231276
>not Queen Mya
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=vomq7hPTVng

If someone will ever do the Aegon's conquest I bet they will use this track for Aegon's first coronation scene
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>>87231339
>which is my point. It's stupid.

No, you said he DOES believe in this game.

tl;dr stop thinking that if something didn't happen on-screen or directly communicated to you, it didn't happen.
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>>87230434
All hail for the one girl that could so easily make me go against the general rule of "never stick it in crazy"
Just too cute
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>>87231367
Nah bro he was just brooding for Jorah who was on suicide watch.
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>>87231367

Not really, Jon stayed down in the battle for a really good chunk of time that was absolutely unnecessary.
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>>87231387
*blocks your path*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4IRQVGsBU
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>>87231403

He does believe in the game, that's why he preached it. The fact that he didn't play it himself is stupid. Stop acting obtuse.

And no, I'm not going to assume shit happened that didn't. If they don't even bother showing it it likely didn't. And even if it did but they didn't bother, it might as well not have. That's kind of how it works in storytelling. Don't mention something, don't show it, don't give even a single hint of it=probably didn't happen.
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>>87231440
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>>87231420
>No spooky skeletal yandere gf
feelsbadman
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So what do the WW actually want guys?

What's their motive?
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>>87231425

Yes, I am not saying he didn't, but I also acknowledge that Viserion was not going to survive as a certainty if Jon got on Drogon. There are simply too many factors to consider.
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>>87231487
To oppress the strong female leadership of dany
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>>87231487
to see this damn shitshow brought to an end
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>>87231487
They ran out of evil white males, so they had to escalate the thing with the evil up north.
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why was dany hot this season
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>>87231487
To kill all hoomans, as that's what they were created for by children of the forest
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>>87231440
>North Aegonica
>South Aegonica
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>>87231471
No, he preached it to make Sansa paranoid, you dumb cunt.

The writers expect their audience to have a shred of intelligence and an ability to understand characters and their difficulties without saying it out loud. Obviously they didn't expect autists like you.
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>>87231487

Night King is a secret targ
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Jon's ass should be king. May his reign be full, bouncy, and squishy
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>>87231500

I'm not saying without a doubt by any means, but if the chances are affected then it's not wholly inaccurate to blame Jon. If it was Tyrion's idea, he def plays a role, but I can't blame him for the entire execution of the plans, whereas I can blame Jon for how he acted in the moment. It's one thing to have a plan that goes awry, but to actually be there affecting it as it plays out is a lot more glaring.
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>>87231563
She wanted nephew dick badly
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>>87231563
Dragon armor is a +4 to Charisma
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>>87231487
D&D to finally end all this madness
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>>87230961
When suspense/a twist is done properly, there are hints at what is going to happen. A person watching it the first time might be able to deduce the twist based entirely on what happens on-camera (and not meta-knowledge like "of course Arya and Sansa are going to reconcile"). Rewatching will shed new light onto old events.
Re-watching The Sixth Sense, you can pick up on clues that Bruce Willis was dead the whole time. Re-watching Fight Club, you can pick up on clues that Tyler Durden and the narrator were the same person.
If D&D were competent, they would have thrown something like that in (e.g., every time Sansa and Arya are feuding, Littlefinger is in the scene so you now realize that they were just putting on an act for him). Instead, we got something that is both entirely obvious and yet came out of nowhere.
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>>87231563

She was hot because she was tsundere and then dererdere for Jon.
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>>87231420
Queen of Love and Beauty.

>>87231487
They were directly shown to be created in order to destroy mankind.
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>>87231586

It doesn't make it wrong or any less his belief

>It's autistic to never see Littlefinger show any doubt and be caught completely off-guard as if he didn't have any and thus assume he didn't meaningfully consider doubting his plan

you're just desperate to make this point even as it makes less and less sense arent you
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>>87231634
>They were directly shown to be created in order to destroy mankind.

It clearly didn't work as they intended though
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>>87231620
The "clue" was that the sisters were acting out of character.
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>>87231632
> tsundere
> dererdere
Take your weebshit somewhere else. This is a Tibetan sand mandala Gopher page.
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>>87231487
Sam's baby. That fat cunt doomed the entire world. They were mad at Craster, sure, but who was the fat cunt that stole the baby afterwards?
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So, what exactly happened with Egg at the Summerhall?
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>>87230546
*gurgling*
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>>87231563
>i need dragonglass
>bend the knee
>fuck off
>o-okay nvm
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>>87231700
Rhaegar was born amidst salt and smoke. Jon is Lightbringer
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>>87231684
They had a bug in the code that made them want to destroy the CotF as well, but they're still about destroying mankind.
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>>87231592

here's to that, and Kit's future career in gay porn
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>>87231686
Right, but they had no reason to be acting like idiots. "Yeah, we were fighting but then we reconciled off-camera just so we could have this epic twist for the viewers"
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>>87231692
Then what about the books when Gillys baby is still at the wall and didn't leave ?
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>>87231719
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>>87231763
CUTE
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>>87231751

They did take it a little far in the scenes where they were completely alone, but the idea is that even if LF had ears inside the rooms he wouldn't catch on.

It's stupid but it makes some level of sense.
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>>87231763
Emilia always looks much better when she's not playing Dany. She's got such a lovely smile.
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>>87231751
Whoa, so you're complaining about the show trying to surprise you and keep things ambivalent?

What about the Red Wedding? did you want a scene of Walder and Tywin conpiring before that?
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>>87230772
>There's no gene for X
I hate it when people say this, because while true, their implication is that genetics can't heavily influence behaviour (which it does).

There may not be a gene that brings about X, but there are a set of genes that substantially increase its likelihood.

When it comes to Danny, we are looking at:
>lack of self control
>overeating
>trouble concentrating/focusing
>rash decisions
>low mental capacity
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Chads always win
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>>87231763
>>87231790
>>87231822
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>>87231605

They literally would not have been there had it not been for Tyrion. That automatically puts the majority of the blame on him. The plan was shit from the get-go, and Tyrion is the one who came up with it. It was a complete failure, unless one considers trading Jaime for a dragon an even trade.

What Jon did was stupid, yes, but the fact that Tyrion let Dany's most valuable ally go on a suicide missionwithout a single objection, is fucking stupid. Tyrion even acknowledges that they love each other, and then acts surprised when Dany wants to save Jon.
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>>87231840
Is Euron the first American?
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>>87231712
How did he die?
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>>87231840
Except when the plot is written by a fat manchild who got bullied by Chads and cucked all his life
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>>87231883
Tyrion tells her not to go.
She still goes.
The blame is almost entirely hers.

Waifu-mentality is a poison to logic.
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>>87230600

And yet the Valyrians were originally sheep herding peasants, before they found the dragons.
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>>87231883

Well to Tyrion's credit, he didn't want the dragons there. But it still doesn't make sense that he ever thinks Cersei would help them, even if she pinkyswore it.
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>>87231564

I forgot about that scene entirely. God help Showfags to understand when it comes to the last season
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>>87231876
t. jealous roastie
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Shouldn't the ice breath from the dragon make the wall stronger, and not weaker?

Anyway, coincidentally those guards on the wall did good judgement. If it was me, I would probably just wait on top of the wall and shoot down arrows, and rocks etc.
And then I would have been incinerated.

On the other hand, if the dragon couldn't destroy the wall, those guards basically abandoned their post like cowards.
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>>87231387
I don't think there is much to do about that, Aegon hardly faced any opposition other than Dorniggers being niggers.
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>>87231967
it's hot water
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>>87231632
Imagine your brain is melted away by virginity and pedophile jap cartoons
that you use these silly rooting-tooting cringe words
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>>87230651
>"Jon I really relate to your strategic abilities, fuck me now"
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>>87231832
There's a huge difference between a twist that makes sense in-universe (e.g., a petty guy like Walder Frey getting rightfully pissed at Robbb for breaking his oath and taking revenge) then what happened with Sansa/Arya.
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>>87231967
You're a dumb fuck m8
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>>87231959
False. I also have unflattering pics of other ugly cast members.

You womanlet, inbred chubbychaser.
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>>87230498
and so am i
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first
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>>87231943
and then they became gods on fucking earth
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>>87231943

Do you suppose the hair/eye color was a thing before the dragons, or was that something that came about from having their turbo magic civilization and dragons for 5-10k years or w/e it was.

I'm just imagining these stunning, otherworldly white haired & purple eyed sheepherders going around every day. lol

Maybe it's only exotic since it's unusual to us but idk that just sounds so absurd.
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>>87231906
No.
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So who's confirmed for reading the books?

>Bobby B
>Jon
>Jaime
>Barristan Selmy
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If the Wall had magical incantations that kept the zombies and wights and WW's out then how were they going to get over the wall? How did they know Dany was going to show up with Dragons? Did they read the script?
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>>87232030
I think it was due to magic.
Also, it's implied that Valyrians were the original ruling class of the Empire of the Dawn (and also Yi Ti), or that the Valyrians were then ruled by said ruling class (who would look like the Valyrians as described in Danny's dreams).
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>>87231914
He was poisoned by our enemies
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>>87231936

Tyrion had them go in the first place.

>PLEASE, DAENERYS, DON'T TRY TO SALVAGE MY SHITTY PLAN!

You people cannot be serious. That's like lighting a building on fire and then urging firefighters to not go in there.
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>>87232044
Why didn't Littlefinger give him a fair trial before killing him?
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>>87232055
Kelly C and Theon

And didn't Jaime only read two or something like that?
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>>87232076
It was a trial by combat. Littlefinger won.
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>>87232058
ice harpoons, dude.
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>>87232058
Yeah they downloaded leaks from the treenet.
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> y u had to kill those literally two (2) persons after you gave them the choice of living and they refused it and after you burned a fucking whole entire with a dragon anyway?
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>>87232044
>Posts Irish
I don't get it.

>>87232074
>"On second thought, this has clearly gotten to a point where it's unsalvageable, and we should cut losses"
>"I'M GONNA GO THERE'S NOTHING YOU ACN SAY TO MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE"
Fucking Tyrion, all his fault.
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>>87232081
idk, I think Bobby is the only one to read them before the show existed?
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>>87231487
>So what do the WW actually want guys?

The Others want to kill all life because they are magical bio-weapons created by the Children of the Forest, who lost control of them.
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>>87231967
Basically a nozzle could do the trick
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>>87232058
Bran got molested by NK, so now NK can follow him whenever he wants.
If Mance almost got through the Wall, why NK can't?
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>>87230600
>Explicitly explain that incest works different
>But its proven by science that there is no gene for le cruelty XD
Fat lazy hack
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>>87231832

Not the anon you replied to, but I think they're expressing it feeling like a cheat. In situations where they pull twists or tricks, there have to be some small hints or cues or ways of playing it that someone can notice if they're savvy. But if they force it without giving any tells, it just feels like a cheated twist.

The fun of twists is not just that you don't see them coming, but that it makes sense and you might have seen them coming if you had paid enough attention.

It's all about having the payoff feel earned rather than tricked.
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>>87232106
No it wasn't

wtf I hate Littlefinger now
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>Patchface jumped up. "I will lead it!" His bells rang merrily. "We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh."

all hail Azor Patchface, our saviour
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>>87232151
>Mance

who?
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>>87232129

It is still all his fault. He cane up with the idea, and it didn't pan out. Just because he tried to whistle and walk away, doesn't mean he isn't culpable. That's fucking ridiculous.
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>>87232124
Literally two people who happened to be a Great Lord and an heir to a Great Lord.

Also killed them by horrifically war-crime roasting them to death, instead of something like the Ned Stark method.

Also this is bad PR, even if you are not against war crimes. And doubly so, since it reminds people of your shitty father - Targaryens tend to suck at ruling.

Stupid by every fucking metric.
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>>87231730
Imagine what it looks like when he walks unf
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>>87232058
The Night King might have some raven-like hax. He can tell when Bran is spying on him
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>>87232116

How much Targ incest porn do you think Bran watches on treenet
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>>87232135
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>>87232266
>Bran
>not a Daynefag
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>>87232129
Look at his armor dude
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>>87232225
>Great Lord and an heir to a Great Lord.
noone cares
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>>87232266
He actually prefers Stark porn
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>>87232266
He's more into BSDM and rape stuff.
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>>87232196
Mince Rider, he was king of the wild folk. He died because his knees had arthritis and he couldn't kneel so evil stannis burned him up.
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>>87232313
Then why didn't he let the legend rape Meera?
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>>87232228

do you think he does that sad clueless expression when he gets penetrated
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>>87232286
So sick of the jews, wish I was memeing
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>>87232225
Also, at first she's like
>you guys can either fight for me or you can die
But then she's like
>I don't want to put people into chains, cuz I'm not Cersei
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>>87232266
y does he have to be so fucking edgy
>>
Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright
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>>87232129
>>Posts Irish
>I don't get it.
And most Americans are all about "muh Irish heritage"
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>>87232310

Well fuck he's got what 8k years of it to choose from?
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>>87232315
haha inferior to Thormund Giantcock
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>>87232030

I think it’s a cover story (myth) created by the Valyrians themselves, who were actually the aliens who transported humans to Planetos thousands of years back but something happened among them (civil war?) and their ship (the moon) was damaged, forcing them to inhabit Planetos, giving rise to the myth that the “moon cracked open and dragons spilled out”.
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post yfw tyrion's gonna betray danny next season
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>>87232341
>GURM creates a coat of arms similar to the USA flag for donatello
>le jews xD!

kys
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>>87232355
pretty sure most Americans don't have irish heritage
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>>87232296
Except all the similarly privileged individuals, everyone who would see this as needlessly cruel and sadisitc, everyone who would see this as tyrannical, everyone who would see this as dishonorable... lol, no one.

This show can be misleading in that it sometimes implies that you can just get away with being a douche, when in fact, you have to establish some form of legitimacy as it makes it far easier to rule.
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>>87232347

he's trying to outdo arya
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>>87232384
>but something happened among them (civil war?) and their ship (the moon) was damaged, forcing them to inhabit Planetos, giving rise to the myth that the “moon cracked open and dragons spilled out”

Isn't that the plot to one of GURM's earlier books?
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>>87232395
I hope Missandei does when she realizes she still is essentially a slave and Dany wouldn't let her walk away.

>>87232410
That doesn't stop them from pretending they do.
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>>87232377
Mighta s well go look Garth Greenhand's harem at this point
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>>87232411
What was her name again?
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>>87232384
FUCK OFF, Preston, you mega-KEK
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>>87232266
Who would be the best option for someone into rape and incest? Craster and Aegon IV?
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>>87232411
To be honest, Tywin did far worse to the Reynes and he got a fucking hit song and lots of respect for it.
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>>87232467
Lady not-too-fat-to-sit-on-my-face
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>>87232467
HOAAAAAARE
>>87232135
To get
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>>87232404
hey jewboi, lighten up
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>>87232467
Mother of armhams, bane of pigs
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>>87232489

because patriarchy
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>>87232446
>Isn't that the plot to one of GURM's earlier books?

I dunno, I never read any of his other stuff.

I'd like to read the Dunk & Egg stories but not until they're all in one volume.
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>>87232489
Tywin is a better person with amazing actor while Daenarys is a entitled cunt with a piggy on two legs as an actor
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>>87231420
>>87231634
Did we ever get to see her naked or were those just scenes were it was a "see-not-see" thing? can't recall
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>>87232563
Sandkings is key I think, Varys = Shade
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Varys is a merman. wake up sheeple
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>"I AM DA QUEEN"

what did she mean by thuis
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>killing your literal best character with a retarded "subplot" involving some epic le smug teenager who can le change le faces
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>>87232589
we saw parts of her naked
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>>87232489
>respect
more fear than respect, but yeah
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>>87232595
Ice and Fire = Water. Bipeds will deny this
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>>87230647
>army nation
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>>87232600
>literal best character

Littlefinger is a shitty character that only stupid, edgy idiots like.
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>>87232600

Would you rather he die now or be a simpering stooge for eternity like Varys only to be trotted out when Dany needs to look stern and impressive.

these two go from running the entire game between themselves to this.
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>>87232595
Never fucking trust a Bolian
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>>87232613
Oh, ok..... Will have to check out a few old episodes then I suppose
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>>87232650
stfu
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>>87232489
>>87232559
Because the Reynes were actively revolting against their Lord Paramounts, who had previously been KANGs for thousands of years.

With Danny, you have her horrifically executing generals that happened to be on the other side, in a way that reminds them of the previous Targaryen tyrant.

Sorry Dannyfags.
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>>87232655
You mean they are no longer in charge here?
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>>87230705
Now it begins.
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>>87232697
I'm not a Danyfag, just saying that it's not different. I don't see how genociding a revolting house is better than executing an enemy general.
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>>87232341
>>87232513
LE ALL PRAISE KEK XD
SHADILAY MY
E P I C
P
I
C KEKISTANI BROTHERS XD
BMI AND SEX IS A CONSPIRACY OF THE LE JEWS XDDD
VIRGINITY MASTER RACE, ONLY NIGGERS HAVE LE SEX XD
CHECK MY LE BASED DIGGITS LE KEK IS AMONG US XD
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>>87232055
I think Stannis.
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>>87232286
stripes and crowns?
and the red priests are leafs then?

brainlet
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>>87230762
How much time until you can say all the lines a second before the characters do?
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>>87232758
Why is he holding a glass of milk
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>>87232489
>>87232559
>>87232697
Crusader Kings 2 reflects this in that a revolting vassal can have his lands taken away, and be executed.

But a conquered vassal who was fighting for his liege lords - as he should be according to their rules - could not be executed, nor have his lands taken away, lest you be considered a tyrant.

Sorry, Dannywaifufags, but I see no way out of this for her. She was in the wrong.
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>>87230705
sounds LITTY
I'll be around to keep the general alive in amerishart off hours I hope
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>>87232758
>posting pictures of yourself
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>>87232724
Noh.
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>>87232758
settle down fella, didn't mean to hurt your feelings
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>>87232724

nawitens
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>>87232758
you have the same wasitline and hairline though
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>>87232758
>he has to cherry pick
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>>87232837
>this guy fucked Ashara and prime Cat
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>>87232806
This isn't Crusader Kings 2. Go back to playing your autistic video games.
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>>87232806
Every lord who didn't support Stannis committed treason. The Tarlys deserved execution.
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>>87232742
>The absolute state of show retard virgins who fanatsize about that ugly thot Emilia
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>>87232862
Wasn't he warden of the north at the time? Never underestimate how sexy power is.
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>>87232886
>say i'm not a danyfag
>autistically keep believing i'm a danyfag

Kill yourself.
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>>87232869
Crusader Kings 2 aims to model medieval feudalism.

Also, it makes sense:
>Consider how you would treat a general staging a coup vs. an enemy general who was captured in battle.
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>>87232698

In the show? No, haven't been since season 4 or 5.

In the books it's Varys that kills Pycelle, Tywin's brother, and I think one other. And instead of hanging around waiting for Dany to use him, he's working on installing another pretender.
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>>87232468

We know humans (and horses, etc.) are native to Earth and Planetos sure isn't Earth, so...

Not that Gurm will ever get to the story, but I think with the Valyrians he was taking a page from Roger Zelazny's "Lord of Light", where people were transported to another planet thousands of year ago (that is, thousands of years in our future) and the people on the planet eventually became primitive while the crew of the ship that transported the colonists, essentially became "gods" thru life extension technology.

With Planetos, the crew/gods are the Valyrians, who used bio-engineering (perhaps picked up from the Children of the Forest, the native inhabitants of Planetos?) to improve their physical bodies and give them "magical" control over the dragons but when some kinda civil war or other disaster broke out among them on their ship, (the moon) they were forced to inhabit the same planet as the human colonists and this was the Rise of the Valyrians Freehold.
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>>87232337
As if anyone could get past all that rump to penetrate
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Is he the epitome of what all men should strive to be?
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>>87232883
The whole realm from Dorne to the arbor refused to support Stannis. According to you the entirety of Westeros commited treason. Going to burn them all?
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>>87232883
Lol, even if you believe that, not by YASS QWAANN, surely.
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>>87232824
>this is a 10/10 in America
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>>87232944

If you slap him around a bit until he spreads himself open for you like a good little bastard slut, then absolutely.
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>>87230705
feels good man, I look forward to the discussions and what not
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>>87232940
Wow, Preston, wow!
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>>87232940

Doesn't GRRM like mixing scifi into his fantasy too? ive heard a few of his other books are like that (fantasy characters finding a starship and shit) but ive never read them
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Who's the smartest character in the books/show?
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>>87232920
"If you kill your enemies, they win" -Crusader Kings 2
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>>87232953
Yes. This is Stannis "ambushed in the night? better set my daughter alight" Baratheon we're talking about
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>>87232815
>>87232824
>>87232854
>>87232851
>All these fat Nazis are insta triggered and have to project their ugliness
LE EPIC FALSEFLAG COUNTER ATTACK TRICKED LE JEWS XD
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>>87232940

Sounds eerily similar to the Pern series by McCaffrey
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>>87233010
tree pedo
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>>87232806
>But a conquered vassal who was fighting for his liege lords - as he should be according to their rules - could not be executed, nor have his lands taken away, lest you be considered a tyrant.

But Randyll Tarly refused to bend the knee, justifying his execution.

If your enemy refuses to surrender, you're in your rights to kill them and thus cannot be labeled a tyrant.
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>>87232996
I treat GoT as the cheap popcorn entertainment that it is, so it's not an issue at all.

If you're going into GoT post-S01 and especially post-S03 without your brain turned off, you are making a mistake.
>>
What bullshit will stop the NK?
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>>87232920
>He tries to explain Feudalism and logic to absolute Patchface level retards
Stop.
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>>87232953
>According to you
Are you debating Stannis wasn't the rightful king?
>>87232973
I don't give a fuck who kills who anymore, they've killed off all the interesting characters. It's just hilarious to see the Lannisters and their allies get btfo and all of a sudden all the contrarians come out of the woodwork saying
>"the Lannisters/Tarlys dindu nuffin"
>>
What's happening with Jaime at the end?

Did he just ride North alone or what?
>>
>implying GRRM hasn't finished the series
>implying he's not being paid to hold them off so more people watch the show instead
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>>87233048
>refusing to pledge fealty = refusing to surrender
just fucking take them as hostages lmao
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>>87233030
did you fail to notice when you became exactly the thing you lash out against
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>>87233065
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>>87233010
>Who's the smartest character in the books/show?
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>>87233122

>If people have books to read they won't watch the series

?????
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>>87233010
Eh, pretty subjective. Probably Aemon, Tywin, Brynden Rivers and Tyrion, bookwise. Possibly Varys as well, hard to tell since >muh mysterious
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>>87233065
The heart of the cards
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>>87233122
>implying GRRM isn't waiting for the series to end so that he can pay a ghostwriter to do a 200 page novelization of the last few seasons and call it a day
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>>87233188
>Tywin
>intelligent
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>>87232489
He was fighting for real values
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>>87233048
they had surrendered. maybe you failed to see they were unarmed and surrounded.

they they wont follow her isnt grounds for burning.

she fucked up, it was written with that intention.
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>>87233188
Varys part based on the books, he's been reduced to an extra in the show.
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>>87233215
Yes. I guess you're stupid.
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>>87233083
I'm not even trying to explain feudalism in its entirety, just an aspect.

Meanwhile, for some reason, people seem insistent on defending DAnny's dumb decisions, moving the goalpost to something else, always unwilling to change their minds
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>>87233010
Are we talking book smarts or street smarts?
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>>87233010
GURM's self-insert, obviously
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>>87232652
Edgy is one of the most meaningless, benign fucking buzzwords of the current years
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>>87233188
Tywin was a retarded fuck. Like he missed so much in the show specifically it's unreal. He also got himself into debt and was borrowing from the Iron Bank like a fucking moron, something Olenna realized and taunted him for.
>>
i just started watching dis

y does jon snow speak like batman
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>>87233048

being known for burning a father and son alone will hardly make people love you. regardless of whatever justification you claim people will only see the fact that you burned two people alive. Luckily it was just a yaaaaaaaaaaaaas queen moment so Danny won't face any consequences and nobody will notice
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>>87233278
t. edgy tryhard 13 years old
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>>87233269
>guy who got outsmarted repeatedly by a 15 year old
>intelligent
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>>87233287
He is retarded.
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>>87233287
He's secretly the bastard son of Ser Oswell Whent
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>>87233282
>the absolute state of shartmerican show retards
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>>87233290
>Luckily it was just a yaaaaaaaaaaaaas queen moment

How fucking dumb are you jesus christ
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>>87233275
>Are we talking book smarts or street smarts?

They're the same thing to any non-brainlet
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>>87233222

This reminds me of what has been bothering me.

Dany obviously fucked up by burning them, but everyone acts like it was the 'mad' Targ gene showing up when it's extremely obvious she just did it because she felt she had something to prove. People needed to know she had resolve and wasn't going to go easy. And Tyrion had been pushing so hard on the leniency angle, with Varys grilling about her whether she was worthy enough, people like Jon refusing to swear allegiance, etc.

Dany was clearly feeling like she needed to prove something to herself & to everyone else. You could tell she was upset and conflicted aobut whether to do it, but had had it up to here with Tyrion constantly trying to talk her down.

Nothing about that came off as "I'm unhinged time to go apeshit." It was all about pride and desire to prove herself in battle.
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>>87233282
Incorrect. It's Robert Baratheon, by proxy of Littlefinger, who has borrowed ludicrous amounts from the Iron Bank.
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>>87233310
edgy
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>>87233338
We're on /tv/ faggot I ain't talkin bout no damn books.
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>Danny
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>>87233346

Not as dumb as you danyfag
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>>87233222
>it was written with that intention.
You saw people around saying "he was a misogynist xenophobe he better get killed now LOL XDXD LMFAO :^))))" right?
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>>87233215
t.Cerseifag
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>>87233282
>Cerseifags
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>>87233045
this, he is literally to smart for westeros
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>>87233359
Non Brainlets are rare in this threads. Just look at the last fifty posts and you can tell most of the people here are unironically borderline retarded (or American lol) and the worst thing is they think they are intelligent.
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>>87233282
Are you retarded? Lannisters are the richest family in Westeros. They haven't borrowed shit. It's the BOOAAAR who borrowed.
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>>87233222
Trips o' truth.

>>87233362
Yeah, I'm not seeing the mad Targaryen thing yet. Unless, it actually means stupid decisions, in which case Dany has it in spades.
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>>87233392
>You saw people around saying "he was a misogynist xenophobe he better get killed now LOL XDXD LMFAO :^))))" right?

No

I saw Tyrion telling her it was a bad decision

It was obviously written as a flaw of hers
>>
Other than Randyll and Dickon Tarly, which characters on Game of Thrones literally did nothing wrong?
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>>87233445
Cersei is even dumber than Tywin and her stupidity got her son and most of House Tyrell killed.
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>>87233362
>YAAS IMA BURN THE HIGHEST RANKING REACH LORD AND BEST GENERAL REMAINING TO PROVE MYSELF MY DRAGON IS SUPERIOR IN BATTLE
the delusion of targfags
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>>87233144
>>refusing to pledge fealty = refusing to surrender

Yes, it in fact is.

>just fucking take them as hostages lmao

Had Balon Greyjoy not bent the knee to King Robert after his defeat, it meant Balon would simply restart the war once Robert left, thus Robert would have been in his right to execute him (and even if Balon HAD bent the knee, Robert could have executed him for treason or sent him to the Wall).

Randyll and Dickon refused to bend the knee = they refused to surrender.

Locking them up only means other lords will surrender but refuse to bend the knee, thinking to start an uprising once they're released from prison and in medieval days, prison wasn't a long term prospect like it is nowadays, it was just warehousing criminals until they were sentenced to whatever punishment.
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>>87233379
Then dont talk about the character of you barely know anything.
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>>87233470
Ser Pounce
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>>87231487
they just want to have an ice day.
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>>87233470
The butcher's boy.
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>>87233310
T. sub human retard who never learns. have fun throwing around that shitty buzzword like candy, pal
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>>87233470
Dany
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>>87233466
Was talking about average show viewers around the internet, which is prolly the effect Dungeons and Dragons wanted from them
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>>87233470
Azor Patchface
Edric Storm
Gendry
>>
NEW
>>87233587

>>87233587

>>87233587
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>>87233392
>Danny invades ENRICHED middle-eastern culture, conquers them, forces them to change their culture and submit to a foreign ruler.
>And though slavery is bad (no shit?), she went about it in a really stupid manner - trying to quit cold turkey.
Reaction:
>"Omg, Danny, gurl, what are you doing???"
(number of question marks varying between 3 and a million).

Meanwhile
>Danny invades Westeros with a foreign, known rapist army, intending to plant herself as a ruler, having been raised in the customs of foreigners (not one of the Westerosi)
Reaction:
>Known as "fire and blood" crazy bitch
>Talks of peaceful Targaryen rule, even though it involved countless unbelievably costly civil wars between incest targaryen hillbillies
>"lmfao, I bet they voted for LUMP, YASS QUAAAN"
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>>87233470
The High Sparrow, prolly
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>>87233290
>being known for burning a father and son alone will hardly make people love you.

No, but it will make the remaining nobility fear and obey you.

Do you think the Japanese loved the U.S. for nuking them them in WWII?

If they or the Germans had started up a guerrilla war afterward, the U.S. would have brutally put it down, as the Soviets did in Eastern Europe.
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I'm watching it atm.

Oh my fucking god, Baelish's death is insulting.

>How do you plead?
>LORD BAELISH!
>OOOOOOOOH TWIST!

I knew he was going to die because the terrible writers didn't know what to do, but did anyone even believe for a second that Sansa was going to kill Arya?

Fucking hell, just give the north to the Night's King and kill off these shit characters.
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You helped me win the Iron Throne, now help me keep the damn thing. We were meant to rule together.
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>>87231606
kek
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>>87234170
Was he coming on to Ned?
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