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What went wrong?
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Nobody gives a shit
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>>87065140
Music is more accessible nowadays and the channel stopped being about music. There's literally no reason to watch the channel.
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MTV still exists?
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>>87065140
White people.
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>>87065194
Outside political memes this, when likin park came to my city they had the nice idea of putting an advance of some of their stupid reality shows before the concert and of course everybody boo'ed them, even the sheeple they pander doesnt buy their shit anymore
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>>87065140
Good. I'm happy to see MTV fail.
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look how awful these performances are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4hUmKZvBBE
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press F to piss on mtv
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Who the fuck watches MTV any more? Their entire god damn format is basically replaced by you tube.
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>>87065595
teenage girls maybe?
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>>87065140
I'm honestly surprised any awards show continue to exist. I honestly don't know why you would watch a 4 hour show for a list of bullet points that can be read in 30 seconds, and not miss anything relevant. At least the Oscars have the benefit of being on an actual network as opposed to MTV.
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Genuinely curious since I'm out of touch with the youth. Does anyone even care about mainstream music pop culture anymore other than blacks, teen girls, and black teen girls?

It seems to me that with the Internet music tastes have fractured and old media outlets are no longer the tastemakers they once were. All that's left is sucking every ounce of attention and money Beyonce can produce hoping against hope the well never runs dry.

Who's even going? Taylor Swift? Who fucking cares?
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>>87065595
find something that shouldn't exist anymore and you'll also find teenage girls and old people are the main people supporting it
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MTV doesn't play a SINGLE music video, ever, anymore.

It's literally Teen Moms and Catfish 24/7.

MTV is no longer culturally relevant or music relevant.
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>>87065486
I'm actually fine with this.

>VMAs are a mess
>Everyone is lip singing over a track anyway
>Fuck it, why bother pretending, I'll just do an interpretive dance
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>Mtv
>"MUSIC" Television
>95% of their programming is dedicated to subjects other than music like teen pregnancy and online bullying
>ratings are shit

hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>87065140
shilled music sucks and so does MTV, a proper binning
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>FUCK WHITE PEOPLE LMAO
yeah i wonder why

they never mentioned the linkin park guy's death or chris cornell wtf, instead they had some distant relative of robert lee disavow "white supremacy" WHAT THE FUCK
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>>87065140
>less people have cable
>MTV's demo probably the least likely to have cable
>people are getting wise to the fact that awards shows are just elites patting themselves on the back for hours
>no one watches music videos on TV, if anything they should have an awards show on YouTube
>MTV has no credibility left in the music department
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>>87065723
they had jared leto mention chester

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9uK8T49aLI
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>>87065661
Agreed with this. I have no understanding of what mainstream music even is anymore. Without radio to dictate what's popular I have no idea how something is determined to be popular or relevant.
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>>87065723
>instead they had some distant relative of robert lee disavow "white supremacy"
Did they really? Jesus. What the fuck is MTV?
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>>87065806
oh cool ok
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mtv wasn't that bad early on, what really destroyed it was the real world and all the reality tv crap offshoots they created because the real world was such a big hit.
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>>87065810
I assume this shit is just determined by word of mouth through the internet now.
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>>87065661

This. I don't know if it's the fact that I'm older now or if the internet really has fucked the way the music scene works on a fundamental level. I remember back in high school everyone liked Linkin Park and girls like boy bands. I don't know what the kids like anymore. Even Bieber is basically a relic and that was well after my time.

That aside MTV is failing because the internet has been a thing now for a while and all they show beyond that is the absolute worst bottom barrel reality television garbage.
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>tfw you lived long enough to see the slow, painful, miserable death of mainstream media networks
It's only just beginning
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>>87065861

Jackass as well. All that together is when it started being way more about teen culture and nothing about music.

Then, Youtube came along at the absolute perfect time to take that entire demo away from them. They've been in a slow freefall ever since.
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>>87065140
>tfw they literally cut to commercial break during the Chester Bennington memorial and advertised some shit for tobacco


Holy hell I couldn't stop laughing.
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>>87065806
why did 30 secs to mars perform in infrared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKn5-6FP5iY
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>>87066231

>advertising for tobacco

Are the literally retarded or does MTV air in other countries like the Indonesia? The tobacco industry is dead here in the US outside of the deep, deep South.
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>>87065861
MTV did have some good non-music programming in the 90s/early-00s -- Beavis and Butthead, Daria, Sifl & Olly, FEAR -- I loved FEAR; I rewatch episodes in October -- and some more.

But, it's shifted so far from music, that it's not even worth being called MTV OR having VMAs.
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Entertainment is fundamentally changing.
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I remember when I recorded Evanescence videos and watched Counter Strike tournaments on MTV. it was so cool. this channel died in 2004
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>>87066305
It was Anti-Tobacco which they are on a crusade about for some reason.
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>>87066227
jackass and wildboyz were pretty much the only things worth watching on mtv when they were airing, i can't remember anything else worth a shit on mtv during that time, just a bunch of fucking reality tv shows for airhead teen girls
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>>87066385

Oh, well that makes more slightly more sense but what a waste of money and time. Everyone with half a brain has stopped. Vaping saw a bit of a revival but it's just as expensive.
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Can't believe millions of people missed such quality programming.
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>>87066296
Probably Jared Leto's idea
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>>87065140
>best fight against the system
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>>87066452
Why do I get the impression that Elen is kinda redpilled.
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>>87066385
>for some reason
They've been doing that shit for a long god damn time. Though, you would think that opiates and meth is the bigger problem than some assholes vaping.
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>>87066452
Ellen looks like she doesn't want to be there
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>>87066452
>Ellen's face
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>>87066488
Because it stands out and looks different and people don't care if it sounds like shit

also the mom of the girl from the protest came on stage as well
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>>87066508
>Elen is kinda redpilled
That or soulless. It's hard to tell.
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>>87065140
>What went wrong?

People are still watching that shit?
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>>87066518
its virtue signaling at its best because you go and google these young celebrity and theirs plenty of pictures of them smoking
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>>87066452
I wonder how much Ellen got paid to be there.
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>>87066579
No, that's why we're wondering what went wrong.
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>>87065486
>look how awful these performances are

No.
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Same night as the McGregor and Mayweather fight
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they tried to tap into the sjw crowd too much and made the mistake of thinking they are more than a very loud vocal minority

mark my words, they will attempt to appeal to a politically incorrect market next
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>>87066743
Nah, I think the VMAs were last night, not Saturday.

They had to compete with the season finale of GoT which probably has a lot of overlap with the potential VMA audience.
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>>87065140
its always been marxist kike niggger trash but lately the the jews are shifting into maximum overjew
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>>87066401
>jackass

Was always fucking stupid and contributed to creating the pathetic manchilden that exist today.
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>>87066452
state of Katy Perry, is this her final form?
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>>87065860
>>87066296
They cut the actual tribute out with a commercial mid broadcast, check the comments.
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>>87066452
Unironically, this is fascinating
>Katy, still bretty hot using a fidget spinner like a retard
>the audience clapping like seals
>Ellen with "wtf am i watching" face
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>>87066911
the show is called jackass and you are saying it was always fucking stupid

are you literally retarded?
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>>87066452
>oblivious, propaganda peddling bimbo uses meme co-opted by normies
>finding white people in the crowd amongst the jews and mud people is like going through a where's waldo book
>Ellen screaming internally
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>>87065140
I didn't know it was on until after it had already aired.
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>>87066821
Yes Ellen joked that she was missing the finale and hoped her wife was recording it at home then gave some award to pink for making music videos and Pink went on some tangent that her daughter that acts like a tomboy thinks shes ugly and not cute and then pink was saying how it's not ok for kids to feel this way and that all kids should be themselves. Also she had some fuck trump sticker or something on her clothes
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>>87066602
Every - EVERY - single actor and famous musician is on cocaine and likely heroine. There are ZERO exceptions.
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>>87065140
The biggest artists in music stopped going to it. The same thing is happening to the grammys. Yes the VMAs were always shit but it was hands down the only place where wildly popular artists from all forms of music would get together and you'd see shit happen.

When it's come to the point where Drake is at an English Music Festival instead. Taylor drops a video during its airing and doesn't go to it, The Weeknd doesn't go to it because doesn't feel like it even though he's scheduled to fucking perform. Kendrick only being there because you gave him like 5 awards as well as perform. And No Kanye.

The VMAs used to have fucking moments. They stopped letting the artists get totally shitfaced at the awards show (which they used to it was an open secret that half the audience would be drunk) because of the Kanye Taylor shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc_39aTxsP0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaakT52RjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAy-NtCQCB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udDlSRgyxMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiV0Y6XjgnI

All moments that were discussed and remembered for days, if not years.

It's just fucking dead like everything else in this very boring era of music right now.
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>>87067065
>heroine
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>>87066111
Yeah, but they will cause the most damage possible to new media before dying.
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>>87065140
Same night as GoT finale. Really retarded of MTV.
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>>87066769
MDE music videos when?
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>>87067108
>that Gimme More performance
Jesus, was that supposed to be as uneventful as possible?
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>>87067357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k06lLDDe-b4
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>>87067027
If I was defending that stupid shit, then yes, I would be retarded.
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>>87065661
>>87065810
>>87065933
>>87066025

there's still a mainstream pop culture but not mainstream in the sense that it's determined by radio stations and tv networks. it's mainstream in the sense that it's the majority of the population.

and it's social media now that helps in making a song popular.
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>>87067507
So is that trash Mexican song I've seen around gonna sweep at the Grammys?
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Kikes.

They outkiked themselves. No one is buying their shit anymore. The world is waking up from the nightmare we call the Jew
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>>87066452
Ellen has the look of a woman who is acutely aware of the fact that she's being used as a prop due to her sexual orientation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5L1R_b64e0
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I miss the old MTV, back when it played music videos and stuff like Liquid Television.
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It went wrong when MUSIC Television has nothing to do with music.

Same as Discovery Channel and nothing but PAWN STARS CANADA TURBO EX 2 + EDITION.
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>>87067700
DELET
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69nsT_WaIo
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>>87065140
they don't play music anymore?
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>>87065140
Anti trump nonsense
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>>87066622
they're pretty awful
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>>87067425
>uneventful

What? That disastrous performance was the event. That's all people talked about with Britney for days until she did some even crazier shit. 2007 Britney was crazy as fuck, very entertaining. Fun fact, Britney Spears still has no legal control over any of her money, ten years on.
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>>87067108
>justin timberlake bopping his head as madonna cucks him
Wh*tes
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>>87067898

Generation Z is the meme generation
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Like the comments before me stated, it's shocking that MTV still exists. I'm from a third-world country and everyone here finds music (our most famous genres are limited to this country) through friends, snapchat groups, twitter, youtube and a big site to download mp3 where the artists post their work.
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>>87068111
Generation Z is the cuck generation. They all would rather watch someone do something rather than do it themselves. From watching someone play videogames, to watching people fuck even just watching other people eat.
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>>87067108
It used to be bigger than that in the 90's and late 80's. EVERY musical act wanted in on it. Now it's literally useless.
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>>87065140
>put your awards ceremony circlejerking musicians with insane egos on the same night as the Game of Thrones finale and the new episode of Rick and Morty
gee, I wonder
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>>87065705
>history channel
>it's a show about retarded canadian rednecks driving trucks over ice lakes
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>>87067700
I can confirm this. I haven't bought any CDs since 2003, DVDs since 2007, I don't own any Blurays, I pirate movies, tv shows and music, and rarely go to the cinema.
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>>87065486
jesus... what level of meta is this?
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>>87068208
Nobody who is big in music goes to the VMAs anymore. Even the Grammys have more pull.
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>>87065140
It went from Moonmen to Moon(((people)))
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>>87065486
This is the least streamed song on her entire album if she wasn't going to sing why the fuck would she choose that track.
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>>87068204
>pay 60 bucks to experience a shitty microtransaction laden game
>watch a free jewtube video to get an idea of what the game is
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>>87066604
Why was Ellen even there? Wasn't mtv supposed to be edgy and current? Let's tribute gay milquetoast Oprah 2.0. She's there because she probably peddles some gay youth charity. What else was there, a suicide prevention song tribute and a condemnation of white supremacy.

Everything about the show was lame. Liberals are so boring and deranged these days and none of them have a clue.
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>>87067057
I found out reading the thread. I'm not joking.
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>>87068205
Like people have said it was the place to get your band shown to the most people possible but of course with new channels and award shows and the internet plus MTV's decision to move into live action shows in favor of ratings led to there popularity diminishing.
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>>87068467
>to get an idea of what the game is

No, they just watch them play the game. I used to do it because my asshole brother wouldn't let me play when he was playing. That retard, he should have been streaming it.
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marketing team and researchers from the last 20 years should be publicly executed.
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>>87068595
They are called Social Media Influencers now.
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Only win worth noting was Kendrick. Everything else was utter trash.
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>>87066452
Ellen thinking 'Wow, short hair does not suit women'.
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>>87065140
>The VMAs show a steady decline year to year. In 2014 they had 10.3 million viewers. This means their viewership has been cut by half. Each year they lose another million people. What could it be? The disposable music? The horrible performers? You tell me.
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>>87068467
I'd rather pay for it. But even then, I wouldn't watch anyone play a game under any circumstances.
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>>87066371
I met the hottest chick playing cs back in the day
[EUG] CLAN
Wee
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>>87065140
Bad comedy
Too much SJW, I think its allowable and even I think it went too far, when they had the Robert Lee decendent apologize for white people, that was disgusting.
Katy Perry had too many cringey lines

The one less obvious thing was how confusing it was to older viewers.

So they'd say 'Artist--Song' and if you weren't aware it would make you think the artist was the song, then you had to mentally adjust but since everyone is so bizarre it was hard for your brain. I am a Gen X nostalgic for MTV so decided to watch and that is my old person opinion.They will also never show the video.

They showed about 10% of the video in question so nobody could know if these videos were good quality or not...I think most of them were at mansions? So that's good?
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They started letting drumpf's alt-right butt buddies to the event
>https://mic.com/articles/184117/who-invited-alt-right-transphobe-milo-yiannopoulos-to-the-vmas
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>>87065661
*spoon clink*

*sips*

That's about all. Peace out.
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>>87065140
Several years ago I was called by a phone survey from MTV's marketing department, trying to get a fix on what would persuade me to watch MTV. I said if they actually played music videos I would watch it almost constantly, I would pretty much just leave it on in the background. The girl agreed but said that it wasn't an option: the choices were various fraudality shows with irritatingly stupid premises.
What we are seeing across the board in dinosaur mass media is the third generation that cannot retain the family wealth, like in the Chinese proverb. These people just don't know what they're doing.
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>>87065861
It was good when it was 99% white people music.
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>>87065661
There will always be mainstream pop fans. The internet is making tastes more diverse but there are still basic stereotypes that most people fall into
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>>87068383
Holy fuck this pissed me off so bad, its so irrelevant but it was just like someone snuck a pincushion under my seat anyway.
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>>87066111
And then because in America those mainstream media companies are the same companies that provide your internet service they'll do everything in their power to obstruct your ability to access opposing new media companies in favour of their streaming platforms and their online news outlets
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>>87065140
Every award show is retarded. MTV award shows will probably be done away with shortly. And yet the faggots on here still watch the Oscars and golden globes religiously. I just don't get it.
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>>87068650
I'm sure there is much worse than "Humble" but it doesn't do much for me. Kesha's "Praying" was more deserving of the win both in song and video.
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>>87068204
>gen z is the first to enjoy porn
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>>87067065
>and famous musician
Deadmau5 is genuinely straight edge. He got really pissy because Madonna asked for E while at ultra.
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I genuinely didn't even know it was happening on Sunday
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>>87065140

It became literally everything it was created to lampoon
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>>87069236

I stopped watching the Oscars after the whole #oscarssowhite thing. Not even trying to be /pol/ tier here but when you're injecting race into something that's supposed to be skill based and wiping out a portion of the people who vote on it just to gain minority credentials you're ruined the basis of what you're there to vote on.

It was always a bit silly but that year soured it permanently for me. I don't give a shit about the Oscars anymore and haven't watched since.
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>>87069020
>Milo
>alt-right

He's an attention seeking parasite, nothing more nothing less.
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It means there aren't as many SJWs/cucks/coalburners as social memeia would indicate.
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>>87069467
Oscars were always shit
If that seriously ruined them for you then you weren't paying attention
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>>87069536

They may have always been a bit shit but when the entire Academy capitulates to social media pressure and pushes out people that had been there for decades for brownie points and good press they lost the last bit of credibility and nobody should take them seriously.

In reality they started down this road that year they started adding in capeshit and random big blockbusters just for ratings. They've made a lot of shit calls over the years though.
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>>87069452
This. I was busy shitting on mmafags about the fight.
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>>87067541
DES
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>>87065140
katy perry is a peasant
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>>87069756
PEPECITO
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>>87069452

Hollywood and even television are blaming a perfect storm of events on shit ratings.

I mean you've got one of the biggest boxing matches in a quite a while and a massive fucking hurricane battering Texas. Nobody gives a fuck about your shitty movies (in August of all months) and terrible awards shows.
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A bunch of bourgeois and aristocratic pigs clapping and cheering each other on is no longer appealing to people.
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>>87069456
Severely underrated post. The whole point of the awards were to congratulate the new young and up coming artists out there. The music industry devoured itself and then set it's eyes on piracy over the years. Destroying that young audience and driving them away.

The quicker it dies the better. It's a sign of the times.
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>>87065140
HAVE MILLENIALS RUINED AWARDS SHOWS?!?!?
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>>87069467
Maybe it's just a personality type or something because I never liked award shows. Even if it's in something I like a lot.

I always assumed the only people who liked award shows were women or gay men.
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>>87065140
Nobody wants to watch stupid niggers complaining about da rayciss wypipo.
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>>87065486
why isn't she singing? why is this allowed?
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>>87065140
why can't niggers behave like O.J.
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>>87070167
I'd honestly almost say yes. Heck, the only legit winner of that whole thing was a Gen X black guy. That said, its unfair to blame millennials because I don't think they literally run the shows yet? Its probably majority X and Boomers have all the money and Millennials are the actual people who look pretty.

It is undeniable that awards shows went to shit once millennials went on social media and forced all this stuff on us by popular demand.
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>>87070188

Well, it's not that I ever gave them a ton of credence but before the internet got huge I'd usually use them as a sort of guide to your better than normal movie. Serious shit basically.

Worked fairly well. I'd say 2008 was the last year it really fucking worked. No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood. Both swept and both were amazing movies. Didn't see them initially in theaters but they deserved every accolade. It was a hit and miss system before the internet really swept up into the whole youtube review shit.

Now? Yeah, I couldn't give less of a fuck about award events.
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>>87065140
>>87065140
hahahaha

because music is fucking garbage today, everyone knows it, we're just pretending like this era of mumble trap and samefag sounding pop rock bands is passing.

theres good music being made, but you won't see it on an MTV award show. I bet Lil Uzi and Taylor Swift won awards, oh wewww.
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>>87065140

Literally everything
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Modern Hip Hop and Pop killed it pretty badly, I can't think of a single memorable song from the past 8 years and I'm only 25.
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>>87065140
People aren't as stupid as the left, whose agenda they're trying to push, want to think they are. Media isn't blind and people see that they're full of shit for trying to sell the idea that they aren't exactly as racist and sexist as they say everyone else is.
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>>87066385
>mfw adult swim runs those stupid fucking truth campaign anti-tobacco ads every fucking commercial break now
I don't even know why I watch it now outside of Toonami and some stuff on sunday nights, like it's good background noise but it's almost all MacFarlane garbage reruns for the most part (which they just repeat past 12 AM instead of playing their original programs late at night like they used to).

I wish Toonami was just its own network at this point.
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>>87065140
>TV channel doesn't even show music videos anymore, just reality TV
>Wonder why millenials don't watch their "Music Awrads"
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>>87066452
Literally "hey fellow kids".
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>>87070569

I think it has less to do with the "left" and more to do with content creators hitting the brick wall that is the internet. A million ideas at a million miles per hour.

There is no safe harbor anymore. Everything is a one hit wonder. Everything is a meme. It's not sociopolitical matter at all. It's the endless brainstorm of the Internet. Literature and television/movies are safe from this. Music has always been a frail thing.
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>>87066452
Ellen's always struck me as being a pretty wholesome person who's stuck having to adapt to modern culture.
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>>87070559
Party in the USA
Shake it Off

that's all I've got
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>>87066537
>in the next few years we're going to have parents encouraging their kids to stand out in traffic to protest in honor of that dipshit
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>>87070838

>pretty funny comedian
>get a good show
>turns out she's a lesbian
>goes into hiding for years, show cancelled, shat on by media
>comes back
>still very funny
>takes Oprah's spot at top

Top 10 Anime comebacks easily.
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When people think of music, they don't think of MTV.
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>>87065140
music died (streaming services, youtube), 90% of popular culture is knee grow sounds that nobody wants to buy.
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>>87070373
Slightly paying attention to winners of award shows is one thing. Actually watching the show is another.
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Anyone else feel like we're in a huge cultural stagnation right now?
Like everything feels way too meta but without any creativity backing it up, I don't see it ending for another decade at least.
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>>87071047

Completely true. I would watch the intro few things and then hear about Best Picture the morning after. Never a thing I'd stay up for. Last few years were shitposting with you fine retards.
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>>87071110

Sort of but I like it. It's like a whirlwind of mashing shit together. It's barely chugging along but it's good. I feel it in my memes.
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>>87070937
>women
>funny
>ellen degenerate
>whole schtick is that she's a lesbian
>part of the untouchable minority class
>not part of the hollywood rot

Refn was right, LA is a fucking wasteland.
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>>87069391
Madonna is fucking disgusting, I've never seen someone so desperate to stay relevant and youthful while failing on both counts.
It's a shame because I really enjoy her old work a lot.
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>>87071158

Her early standup was great. Even that short lived show was good. She's sharp in her wit. I wish she still did stand up. That was when she was her best.

She's got Oprah's gig now. She doesn't have to give a fuck. Redemption Arc complete. She got fucking robbed of an early career because of "yeah I like pussy." She never made it her act. Media crucified her. It was bullshit.
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>>87065668
Like FM radio?
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>>87065140
Not even useful idiots like marxist propaganda.
>>
S
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>>87065140
GOWPLE YRUMP!!!!
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>watching music instead of listening to it
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>>87071115
well maybe the oscar threads around here will go down then. If you are any indication of the average viewer of this garbage.
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>>87071257
I still listen to dadrock FM radio stations
pretty comfy desu
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>>87071212
>Madonna is fucking disgusting

ummm. no sweetie. Madonna had been hot as fuck for decades and continues to be a smoke show
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>>87065194
people are sick of (((their))) marxist political bullshit, same reason movie theaters are struggling
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>>87065191
fuckin underrated
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>>87071308

>/tv/ not shitposting and spamming the front page with the latest garbage
>after the last week or so of 10 /got/ threads and not a single janny cared

This is how I know you're not from here.
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When did MTV die? I'm thinking around 2002 at the height of Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit. I don't really remember MTV being relevant after that.
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>>87071434

They're still a major part of cable/satellite packages. They're not dead until they rebrand. G4 died. They're gone. In the grave. Esquire is them and I don't know anybody who receives that channel.

That's a dead channel.
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>>87071110
>(((cultural stagnation)))
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>>87071430
I fully expect the homosexual community of /tv/ to continue spamming their oscar threads. But maybe just maybe the nonfags will stay out of it for once since they have come to realize the show it 0/10 shit.

/got/ is 100000X better than the oscars and I haven't been in a /got/ thread in years.

one can only hope.
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>>87071434
get real MTV two last saving graces were The Hill and Jersey shore. They have absolutely nothing now
>"but I didn't like those shows"

I didn't ether but I was in High school at the time and thats all chicks would talk abou
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>>87071242

A lot of lesbian comedians tend to have those qualities early on anon, it's how they compensate for being women, it's why they try and act and look like men. She hasn't had it that hard either, she wouldn't be in that top spot otherwise, she fits the medias current ideal as their darling.

It's not like the film industry where coming out as a dyke for more recognition gets you rightfully destroyed for being an obnoxious entity, see Ellen Page, she's been relegated to that leftist rag Vice.
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>>87065423

I wish I could go back to when MTV was good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C-4gdI7uzU
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>>87071494
Well I meant the old format. When the VMAs and the Movie Awards were actually a big event. When MTV played music videos and had some of the best programs (Liquid Television, Headbangers Ball, Beavis & Butthead, Unplugged etc...) I miss that shit.
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>>87071669

>homosexual community
>is pro /got/

Holy shit, I know when my daily level of taking hypocrisy even semi seriously is over. Thanks for the wake up call of this discussion. Laughed hard at that.
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>>87070838
She's a degenerate dike.
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>>87071367
thanks to this image, the rare, beautiful species known as 'boner' is extinct.
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>>87067108
Thugger won an award and only find out cus of twitter lol
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>>87068228
>The Learning Channel
>about fat fucks and hoarders
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>>87065486
What the fuck did I just watch? Remember when there were actual bands playing actual instruments on stage, and actually singing?

When was the last time there wasn't this black shit on there? Where are the "rock" bands? They don't even pretend to have actual bands anymore. And people are so stupid, they actually accept it. Look at the fucking comments. "Lol, so relateable!" "Aw, she's so cute, I wub her!"
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>>87071434
Jersey Shore was their last great contribution imo
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>>87069756
>>87069892
>that shit has nearly 3.5 billion views in just 6 months
Fucking how?
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>>87071843
>the rare, beautiful species known as 'boner'
>>>/lgbt/
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>>87066452
Why do Americans love watching this garbage?
>>
CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE
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It's only nigger music.
Millennials are shit and it never was a meme.
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>>87065140
Too much virtue signalling.
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>>87071110
I think that's why the media needs Trump, he's the cornerstone they can build from. Everything else is so random and unpredictable, especially what the youths want to do that media can't keep up.

>>87071669
Man fuck off I am tired of reading people bashing the Oscars like its so cool, movies are or used to be the #1 artform and of course we want to celebrate that. I guess I come from an older generation where we liked our actors and actresses and didn't mind seeing pretty ladies in dresses doing things.

I mean without the Oscars we'd never see Amy Adams almost fucking topless with her huge mommy jugbos hanging out. It feels like we are almost toward the point of hoping they cancel The Oscars and I just can't agree, its one of the biggest cultural events of the year and belongs as a once a year celebration of film.

Millennials shouldn't be allowed to tear everything down in society because they are a bunch of avocado toast eating motherfuckers. Go play some Witcher asshole and shut up.
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>>87071110
you think?

just look at the movies and music coming out today

>capeshit
>disneyshit
>1,000's of trap songs
>1,000's of generic pop songs
>1,000's of generic electronic songs
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>>87065668
Like typewriter repair shops?
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>>87072194
Spics have internet now.
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That's what you get for not letting lil kodak win best new artist
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>>87071784
I honestly have no clue what this post means.

>fags and women are the only creatures who like award shows

these are the same people that watch friends


Has /got/ become a total homosexual circle jerk or something recently?
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>>87071902
Thugger won an award for a video he didn't even shoot.
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>>87072345
no we don't
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>>87065486
>those comments

oh... wow
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>>87072422
She's having fun :)
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i hate mtv so much they did so much damage to music by replacing it with their shit teen mom shows why not just put those faggot shows on mtv3 or 4. The days are gone now of bands putting out epic music videos except for a few leftover like Korn.
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>>87065140

it literally began with Robert E Lees great great great grand daughter coming up on stage to talk about how bad racism is, then it played a segment on the alt-right. Im not kidding. This is how the video music awards was
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>>87065140
no talent popularity cunts like beyonce and swift
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Less people listen to top 40.
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>>87072207
Apparently they don't given the OP pic.
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>>87072403
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>>87072304
I never thought the media would have such an autistic reliance again like they had on Bush jokes, shit feels so played out.
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>>87072304
>the oscars are one of the biggest cultural events of the year.
>the oscars
>cultural
I really, really hope that you don't have children. You are literally a retard.
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This will probably be the last time she attends this event.
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>>87072357
I honestly don't know any newer rappers from the past decade besides Kendrick Lamar, shit all sounds the same to me especially compared to all the good shit from the 90's (not to sound like one of those le 90's kids fags or anything, it just all sounds boring).
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>>87072741
Actually- no, her dad is too money hungry.
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>>87072304
>Man fuck off I am tired of reading people bashing the Oscars like its so cool, movies are or used to be the #1 artform and of course we want to celebrate that. I guess I come from an older generation where we liked our actors and actresses and didn't mind seeing pretty ladies in dresses doing things.

I love movies and tv. yet I have literally zero interest in these award shows.
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>>87065661
Pretty solid analysis.
They lost the WHITE MALE audience long ago
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>>87072845
Reminder that MTV actually fucking made this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBluYsydAVc
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>liberals catering to minorities
>minorities commit the majority of crime in the US, they dont watch fucking MUSIC TELEVISION and fucking teen moms, theyre LITERALLY THE TEEN MOMS
>dont cater to white audience
holy fuck theyre actually retarded, good riddance
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>>87072453
how many great great great grand kids do you think Robert E Lee has?

not that it matters. but still.
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most of you will never experience an MTV where hair metal is played all day and depeche mode type bands are played all night
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Just go look up the two and compare, hell any of the 90s or 80s era for that matter. That's all I need to say.
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>>87072759
Kendrick makes wack music

Why not drop rap altogether?
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>>87066452
>tfw my waifu butchered her hair and looks like a man now
>>
Music has gone to shit today. Without cultural advancements from white master musicians like Queen or The Beatles, this generation has devolved from meaningful, structurally and intellectually innovative sonic artistique into shitty nigger music. This is the problem that we as Americans face in the music industry! A disease! We have to remove the herd, and we have to do it quick before the cuckoldry and brainwashing gets to our children! This is a fucking war. And we have to fight this war... or else.

-The Truth Revolt
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>Make your entire channel a 24/7 propaganda loop about how you should kill yourself if you're white
>Oh man why is noone tuning in anymore :(
They dug their graves tbqh
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>>87073117
and got fat
not thicc
but fatt
and that stupid short hair does not help her fat face now

>5 years ago
why can't we go back in time

but then again, she finally has done squats in the last 2 years, where before she had no ass but decent hips
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>>87065140
>pop music
>shitty rap
>non-reality reality shows
>pregnant teens

is there any reason to even watch this shit?
i have access to every song i could ever want and even some i dont want any time.

>the internet wont be this cool forever just w8 for streamlined internet its gonna happen remember the good days
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>>87073203
If you consider that fat you're gay
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>>87065861
Realities were a mistake.
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>>87073036
I still like old school hip hop a lot, I can't get enough of Rakim and A Tribe Called Quest.
Shit I'll even listen to Kayne West's stuff from 5 years back.
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>>87073234
reality was a mistake
>>
We have to hang every cuck, kike, nigger, chink and every such shitskin from every lamppost in this fucking country to show who these kikes are fucking with. We are a resistance. We are a movement. We are a rebellion. We are an army. We are intellectuals. We are Americans. And we don't fucking take any shit lightly. We are...

The Truth Revolt
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>>87065486

> singer
> dances instead of sings on stage
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>>87073203
>Make refreshing pop music
>Get popular
>Start making generic pop music
>Popularity stagnating
>Better cut my hair and make shitty trap pop music
Is there any popstar out there right now more JUST than Katy Perry?
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>>87073232
that's 5 years ago you fucking illiterate retard.
i even memetexted it.

here, ill spoonfeed:
>Katy Perry rooftop pool in Miami Beach, Fla. on July 27, 2012
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>>87073340
oh there is I just don't care to try and remember nor really listened to any of hers or ones Id try to recall
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>>87073281

Go to bed Hugo you've got school in the morning
>>
Itt member
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>>87073340
>Is there any popstar out there right now more JUST than Katy Perry?
No, that Swish Swish music video is just embarrassing.
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>>87065140
MTV is for old people now
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>>87073458
>mfw that part where it literally just uses the shooting stars memes out of nowhere for no reason at all
>>
Every single day I've been trying to preach the message to the mindless, brainless pigs of society, or what some may call, the "majority". Americans have been so blindsided by the thin-skinned idealism of racial equality, moral relativism, anti-freespeech, anti-leadership bullshit. As a proud atheist, a savant with a particularly high IQ, an intellectual with the vigor in exploring the psyche of the human existence, and a, self-taught, well-educated individual in political and cultural relationships of the global scale, I have seen so many things that the deluded American liberal has been so ignorant towards, so much to the point that the idea of a helping hand deems itself futile. America turned itself into a cuckold safe space SJW hellhole, brainwashing our children into whoring themselves to niggers on the street. Chinks and those subhuman jungle gooks have taken over the jobs that we rightly deserve. Indian street shitters have taken over our businesses with their stench poisoning the American people and their opportunities for growth and success as white people. And lastly, it was the kikes that caused all this chaos proving well the definite downfall of the American society. And I, knowing well my foes, stand proud for my country and my race, and I will fight until every millimeter of my blood boils.
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>>87073595
ok
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>>87065486
reminder
>>
I haven't watched this shit since the 90s
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>>87073595
At least you're tripfagging now so I can easily filter (You)
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>>87073747
Based white people!
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>>87071767
You also have to remember that popular music turned to complete shit. It's not just the network but both things at the same time.
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>>87073281
>We have to hang every cuck, kike, nigger, chink and every such shitskin from every lamppost in this fucking country

unironically this
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>>87073560
Don't remind me.
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>>87065194
this
social media are now the middle man in the comunication between artist and public
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>>87070010
Correct, comrade
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>>87065140
Didn't they bring the mother of that fat cunt that got killed on to attack trump?
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>>87073232
I wasn't talking about the picture, idiot
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>>87071370

It's values dissonance. The actual definition not the 1984 definition they tried to change it to

When someones values dont align with the media being produced the form of media will cause disgust in the viewer.

By pandering to smaller and smaller minorities they increase the likelihood of triggering values dissonance amongst more viewers thereby causing them to tune out
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>>87065220

White people are tuning out. (((They))) are learning that nonwhites wont prop up their failing businesses and by alienating whites they kill their channels
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>>87073747
>all white people are responsible for this system
that's a weird way to say some jews and gentile stooges
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>>87065140
youtube
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Ugh.
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>>87066518
what's really hilarious is the same people who are anti-tobacco are pro-weed which means in 20+ years we're gonna be in the same fucking mess again just with weed not tobacco because as soon as it is legallized big tobacco will just switch and start throwing all the additives that made tobacco so harmful into weed
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>>87065140
Gee, I wonder.
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>>87066605
pretty sure people not watching this shit is being right though
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>>87074243
This shit was awful. There is no way it wasn't staged.
>>
It might have something to do with the fact that literally every single time I've looked at MTV in the channel guide in the past 5 years they've been playing all day marathons of 16 and pregnant
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>>87073859
Never gonna happen.
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>>87065140
>Video Music Awards
>no music
Gee I wonder what went wrong
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>>87065140
Should I get a samsung 4k hdr tv or an lg 4k hdr tv?
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>>87073595
>>
>>87066385

As part of the master settlement tobacco companies have to fund Truth which is an anti tobacco advertising organization. It's retarded for that reason
>>
isn't mtv owned by the jewish discovery group?
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>>87066452
kek..this is hilary clinton levels of 'fellow kids'
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>going 100% all in on the #woke audience
>massive failure AND they still complain about some shit

kek
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>>87065486
Lorde is lucky she is QT because that was the dumbest thing I've seen in music
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>>87065619
Teenage girls don't watch TV anymore. They have smart phones now.
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>>87065140

MTV relentlessly panders to a tiny fraction of the population. Most Americans are not urban Millennial leftists.
>>
Catfish is a GOAT tier reality show, show it respect. So comfy and compelling

Beyond that, MTV got nuffin
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too many white people. fucking nazis
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>>87065140

>cutting to commercial during beloved singer's memorial
>virtue signaling with nu-D.A.R.E. ad
>cutting out singers performances
>airing show during biggest GoT season finale
>cutting out last parts of 2 singers performances for another commerical

this kill the network
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>>87074507
I just remembered that "POKEMON GO TO THE POLLS" actually happened
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>>87074605
>thinks urban millenial leftists pay attention to this stuff
Nigga this show is strictly for 13 year old girls.
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>>87065661
For decades they've focused younger and younger so that their audience has whittled down to brainlets: preteen girls and negroes. I've also read that music companies are focusing on pop singers and "rappers" because they're relatively cheap versus having to pay entire bands.

Taylor Swift didn't even show up, btw. The VMAs had no star power.
>>
It has nothing to do with blacks or degeneracy or whatever the fuck, it's because people don't need to watch MTV to see music videos anymore, which is what built the channel in the first place.
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>>87074654
Nazis don't want to fuck you.
They want you gone for good reasons.
>>
I want every award show to go away forever

Too bad that they are in declinr, more than enough retards still watch the Oscars/Grammys to keep them here for the foreseeable future
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>>87065688
>lip singing
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>>87065723
>instead they had some distant relative of robert lee disavow "white supremacy" WHAT THE FUCK
Well it's only fair since a muzzie disavowed the Orlando shoot--what's that? They didn't? Oh. It's almost like MTV has an agenda or something.
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>>87074805
>it has nothing to do with blacks or degeneracy

t. joe bernstein
>>
people don't have to just watch absolutely lowest common denominator shit. when these media ((outlets)) were in their prime, someone in a small town would have a handful of relatively mainstream media choices, a small handful of slightly alternative ones, etc. nowadays you can find something exactly to your specific taste in seconds, for the most part. of course, some people have no opinions whatsoever and some are still too dumb to do so, which is why SOME people still watch this kind of shit, but their numbers are on the decline.
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>>87065680
This
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>>87067108
>Moby
How the fuck did he eer become relevant?
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>>87065140
>spend the last decade relentlessly spreading anti-white-male sentiments
>white males are the primary consumers and thus primary financial supporters of these mediums
>these mediums bottom lines are plummeting and everyone is ripping their hair out wondering why

HMMMM REALLY GETS THE NOGGIN JOGGIN
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>>87066452
For fuck's sake, I thought this was Miley Cyrus since the very first moment I saw her.
It just dawned on me it's fucking Katy Perry.
I literally understand everything now.
>>
It has everything to do with Jew degeneracy.

Everything they touch is failing. People are sick of it.
>>
I feel like a fucking dinosaur watching that Lorde awkwardly dancing clip. Not only was her "performance" bad, but the empty-faced teenage girls in the audience barely even know what to do.
Contrast that with the VMA's from 15 years ago and it's hardly a comparison at all.
I'm only 24, but I feel a weird sense of accomplishment that at least I didn't fuck up enough to actually pay attention to mainstream shit. I might be biter and miserable all the time, but fuck it- I'm glad I don't have a single friend to mention something as vapid as the VMA's to me in casual conversation.

Also, yes- blacks were the best things to happen to music last century, but now they're the worst. And fuck teenage girls. They ruin everything.
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>>87074972
by making one of the best ending themes to a film ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTunCVWzkFA
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>MUH JEWS, SJWS, etc

It actually has nothing to do with that shit, and way more with the fact that it's an antiquated unsustainable medium. The age group that has always been the primary target of MTV (teens and young adults) have grown up with the internet, most of them don't remember a pre-Youtube world. Because of this watching music videos has always been a matter of a few clicks whenever the hell they feel like it for them. They've had no reason to ever care about MTV.

In fact all the retarded SJW trash MTV does on Youtube now seems to be a last-ditch effort to attract those aforementioned young crowds that don't give a shit about them by playing into their retarded world views. It's not working.
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>>87075360
MTV could easily jump over to digital distribution. It's just going full bore with the sjw bullshit ensured that they get no audience outside of the NPC audience
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>>87073747

She won't ever realise how racist she was with that comment. Blaming a whole race for some make believe crime.
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>>87075355
Didn't know that was him...
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>>87071936
i thought tlc was tender loving care :(

now it makes both more and less sense
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>>87066452
I wonder what toy Katty would have pulled out if Hilary had won?
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>>87074426
>lose
Bitch we subsidize inferior races. All it would take is an even playing field for them to wash down the drain.
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>Katy Perry hosting instead of someone entertaining
>cringe political commentary
>scheduling the same time as the GoT finale
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>>87066508
Because she fought against the msm 20 yrs ago
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>>87074426
>>87075360
>>87074805
>>87074654
>>87073405
Cuck

>>87075943
This
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>>87071494
>G4 died
;_;
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>>87066452
>when even cancer thinks you're cancer
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>>87074654
two hours later that hood rats bf was caught doing this at KFC. When asked why he did it by a cops he blamed Trump, and the boogeyman who lives under his bed .
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>>87071110
>everything feels way too meta but without any creativity backing it up
don't wanna say I told ya so but...
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>>87072741
What the fuck was she looking at. She looks disgusted by something or someone.
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>>87065140
makes you think
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>>87072927
>Ostracizes over 30% of the U.S. population for the past several years
>WAAAAH!!! WHY AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE WATCHING OUR NETWORK!? SUPPORT US WITH YOUR MONEY YOU CIS WHITE MALE SCUM!

I'm glad to see this cancerous channel wither and die.
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>>87073281
fuck off pig, if you fat fucks try to take me I'll make it as miserable and bloody as possible. Pasty white boys faces are gonna meet the bottom of my boots
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>>87075297
>blacks were the best thing to happen to music in the last century
Nigger go to hell
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>>87074605
lmao urban leftists dont watch mtv bud
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>>87074805
seriously, this sub is so fucking pathetic. Everything has to be tied to their grand image board narratives. MTV hasn't been culturally relevant for more than 20 years, who the fuck needs a channel to watch music videos when people have the internet?
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>>87077521
>not enjoying the plethora of great black music made in the past century

kill yourself faggot
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>>87070691
>I wish Toonami was just its own network at this point.

I agree, but they can barely keep the paltry Saturday night block they already have alive at this point. I would love to watch it, but it's on when either I'm working, or I'm doing something else with my weekend.
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>We hate Nazis, look how good we are
Congrats on agreeing with 99% of the country, dont need to brag about it on an award show
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>>87071110
Yeah, I feel you. I feel like there was a period of unbridled creativity that started somewhere in the late 60s, and ran through until somewhere in the mid-00s, and then ran face first into a brick wall.
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>>87071434
Jackass and Wildboyz was the only think that kept me watching in the 00s.
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