Battle of Bastards

>battle of the bastards
>Jon isn't even a bastard

>>86628676
>Jon isn't even a bastard

He is.

>>86628676
>from start to finish.
No, Dany's section sucked.

>>86628676
The buildup to this really pissed me the fuck off.
Why the fuck would Sansa withold that she knows the knights of the Vale are coming to help? As far as im concerned all the deaths are on Sansas hands because she was too busy being a stuck up cunt thinking that letting half the people on her side die was some genius political move.
But even then, why didnt Jon Snow just bring more wildlings? "im not their king" oh come the fuck on. There is a whole god damn horde of them im sure there are at least a couple thousand more who gladly wouldve come with you especially after the heroics at hardhome and Tormunds pretty much complete trust.
The one thing that pisses me off more than anything else though, why the fuck was Wun Wun not armored at all? I get that it was probably an impossible task to make armor for a giant, but why not at least give him a huge tree branch to swing around? Are giants all supposed to be retarded or something?
And where did all the Bolton cavalry go? They had enough to completely envelope and overwhelm Stannis's soldiers in season 5, so what the fuck happened?

Unironically kill yourself.

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>gee, how could we possibly escape from this thin shieldwall ?

>>86628952
>Circling your enemy
Tactical failure

>>86628992
Tell that to Hannibal.

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>>86628676
No, too many historical inaccuracies and lost opportunities.

>>86628676
Battle of the Blackwater / Watchers on the Wall battle / Hardhome, all far better battles/episodes.
Shit taste senpai.

>>86628676
nothing post-season 4 is the best anything

>>86629010

>historical inaccuracies


??????????????????????????

>>86629005
>thinking that Hannibal would approve of this
You have to allow your enemy a path of escape because that way it will create more chaos in their ranks when some of them inevitably try to run.

>>86629046
I do approve that they have cut down on the gratuitous nudity and banging scenes in the later seasons. If I want porn I'll watch porn.

>>86629039
Hardhome was shit, probably even worse than the bastard shit.

>>86628952
>Giant is a huge fucking beast
Seriously, he had several options.
1. Take some bodies in each hand and use them to charge your way through the shieldwall
2. Walk to the back of the line and start throwing bodies from the pile
3. Simply lay down and roll and have the wildlings behind you to start killing shit when the shieldwall falters

Ugh. I watched the battle once and still get mad when I see the giant standing still and casually swinging shit on the tip of the spear heads that is pointing forward.
It's just so fucking stupid.

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I agree OP. I know it's fun to hate on this show, but overall this was a great achievement overall for Tv and a cinematography perspective. I hope season 8 gives 1 or 2 episodes comparable to this.

>>86628676
Hardhome was better. It managed to set up Night's King as the show's main villain with the short final scene perfectly.

Battle of the Bastards on the other hand was another opportunity to show off Ramsay as an edgelord just for the sake of it. We already knew he was grade A psycho after seeing him torture Theon in season 3, but then we have him rape Sansa [which served nothing for Ramsay's character arc and regressed hers by turning her into a victim again after her Vale episodes], murder a woman and child, kill his father and so on. And the battle itself was cool but kinda stupid. We have the scene where Jon is almost squished by his own men as an attempt to make us worried about his life when we know for a fact that he wasn't gonna be resurrected only to be killed off in such a lame way, only Barristan Selmy can die like a pathetic dog for no reason whatsoever.

>>86629149
They only did that because there's no brothels in the North in the show.

>>86628676
Isn't this the episode where both armies run at each other and meet each other at the same time even though one army started running first?

>>86629088
Hannibal circled the Romans in Cannae and created a pit of death around them.

>>86629305
Hardhome was indeed close to perfect because they managed to show how powerful the Night King really is and how he use his forces to actually surge the living shit out of defences.
We could actually paint a picture of how the siege of cities will happen when he passes the wall in season 8.

I'm still a bit confused how he will manage to get into a city when the walls are made out of thick stone though.. but I guess he could just let the wights lay siege to cities since they don't feel cold and doesn't starve.

>jon snow resisting a cavalry charge with a greatsword

?????

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>>86629412
>meet each other at the same time even though one army started running first
how the fuck would one army meet the other one first?

>>86628791
had she any?

>>86629412
How the fuck are you going to make both sides NOT meet at the same time? This isn't Doctor Who, mate, one side can't timewarp their way into fighting the other side before they've met.

>>86628690
true he's a dwarf AND a bastard

>>86628992
t. mr strategist trained on World of Tanks and Red Alert

No. The whole season 6 was shit and disappointment. Also, why the fuck couldn't the giant get a fucking tree?

Hardhome might just be the episode where they really jumped the shark.

They changed everything about Others into "le cliche movie villains, literally darth maul" to have a fight scene that goes nowhere, accomplishes nothing, does nothing to the characters AND is basically retconned in the next episode because the stupid fucks who write it can't write. All the while they actually had two much more interesting and important fight scenes to film.

Just kidding it didn't actually jump the shark there, it had been utter shit for at least a season already.

>>86629088
>reads Sun Tzu once
You don't generally encircle your enemy because it causes heavier losses among your own troops, and as long as they flee you've won the battle.
Hannibal wasn't looking to simply win. He'd already won two resounding victories in a row. He wanted to completely annihilate the Roman fighting force. Surrounding completely was the right thing to do.

>>86629496
The leaked episode shows quite a bit about that, it's not implausible to see the Night King taking castles in Westeros with what he has.

>>86629088
Sometimes you don't want them to run away, because they'd be able to regroup.

>>86629088

>Read sun tzu once

Except when you have the opportunity to absolutely skullfuck them.

>>86629496
>>86629305
>>86629039
>Hardhome was better.
is that mediocre war episode where they showd the strong woman wildling with her kid and dieing? no that wasn't better at all

>>86629512
>>86629538
I think I worded that wrong because I don't actually watch the show, I just remember a friend complaining about it and I can't ask him what he meant because he's dead. Maybe it was that they met each other in the center? The point is that there was apparently something unrealistic about the way the armies collided.

>>86628750
Nope,his parents were married.

>>86629506
Are you that retarded still? The 'Gods' are keeping Jon alive. He can't die. He's been revived for one reason only, and we don't know it yet.

>>86629506
>i didn't watched the episode
literally kys

>>86629720
>completely ignoring how menacing the Night King and his army was revealed to be because he feels insecure seeing women doing stuff
Wew lad

>michael garbage to appease redditors

>>86629836
michael bay*

>>86628676
Snow has too much plot armor, Remsy fighting outside of Winterfell although he is in the defense, teleporting archers
bad shit

>>86628915
I tried to figure out what Sansas game was, but no matter how long I think about it there was no reason or excuse for her not telling Jon about the Vale.

Pretty sure Jon had all the wildlings left alive, which were only 2 or 3 thousand.

>>86628676
The battle was absolute kino, but the incircle scene even tho cool, was absolute inaccurate garbage.
When such tactics were performed, they needed a giant manpower so that enemy wouldn't be able to espace, but that line was too thin and was easely punch through.

>>86629808
not because of that. it was a needles introduction of that character, and overall it wasn't better than BoB. i think NK was introduced already several times

>>86628915
>>86628915
also the fact how sansa braggs about her winning the war this last episode
FUCK RIGHT OFF
if her and the knights attacked first they would have got wrecked then jon could have finished the job just as equally as the former

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>>86629673
and how did it end up for him?

>>86628676
Battle of the Bastards was fucking shite. Transformers-tier action with no substance nor coherency.

>>86628676
it's not even the best game of thrones episode. it's not even the best battle in game of thrones.

>>86629836
This shit isn't even close to being in the same category as Michael Bay.

>>86628690
Yes he fucking is. Are you fucking retarded? Do not waste our time with this and put this you cretin. Absolute fucking mongoloid.

All those arrows misses Jon somehow.

>>86629496
>touch the walls to freeze them
>walls shatter like glass

>>86630146

But Jon isn't a bastard. Rhaegar and Lyanna were married.

>>86630212
The Lord of light was protecting him

>>86630146
They were married. Try paying attention in future.

>>86630212
100% evasion

>>86628676
the wildling siege on the wall was way better

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>>86630146
You're the fucking retard here Speedwatcher. Go rewatch last week's episode

>>86628690
The Snows of Winterfell was a better name I saw suggested somewhere

>>86630146
This is what happens when you shitpost while watching episodes.

>>86630214
this is not how it works

that's how we know D&D will do something like this

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>>86628676

>that mountain of corpses

who thought that that was a good idea?

>>86629958
In the best victory that he could have accomplished. Doing things differently at Cannae wouldn't have changed the outcome of the war.

>>86629412
Generally anon, if two objects are moving towards each other, they meet at the same time, regardless of which one set out first. Generally speaking obviously, but that's how objects meeting usually works.

>>86630296
It made no sense to me. Apparently there were thousands of wildlings and only 100 night's watch men. The entire time is night's watchmen getting slaughtered but the wildlings ended up retreating anyways?

>>86629175
Yeah, there's half a dozen ways they could have taken the giant out of the equation sensibly, having it stand around ineffectively swatting at pikemen with it's hands was retarded and immersion breaking.

>>86629412
How the fuck can they not meet at the same time? Are you retarded? You expect them to run forward forever and never meet? Kill yourself you fucking cretin.

>>86630891
The point in books was that they did a test attack and were ready to attack again the next day but then Jon went to negotiate and Stannis came.

Don't remember how it was in the show.

>>86628676
A highlight of the later seasons. Once you overthink it, it becomes stupid though, as already explained in this thread, but overall it was put very well onto camera. I was having a hard time breathing when Jon was burried by the corpses of his men. Never expirienced this while watching a film, a TV series no less.

It's pretty great.

>>86631098
something quite similar

The Watchers on the Wall is the best episode of GoT, there's no competition

>>86631098
In the books the battle lasted several days, with Jon being imprisoned for most of them.
I would assume the reason the wildlings had such a hard time against such a small force is that the wall is one of the best defensive "fortresses", like Moat Cailin or Harrenhal

>>86628676
More like 2/10 from start to finish.

>>86629412
This is the stupidest shit I've seen today. What are they, parallel lines?

>>86628676
>greatest TV episode
>GoT
funny OP

>>86629637
Yeah Hardhome is bad. It was like a Walking Dead episode.

>>86629740
He was probably talking about how the two armies met exactly at the point where Jon was standing, which was a bit silly.

>>86629062
the wight walkers weren't real anon..

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>>86628676
the battle of the bastards is one of the greatest examples of television that was legitimately almost ruined by these fucks and their obsession with 70 live horses.

see the director of the episode quickly ran into a roadblock when he began production on the episode. the script called for 70 live horses to be involved in the shooting. with the limited time they had on the shooting location this wasn't possible, training the horses alone would've taken weeks of their 30~ days of shooting. on top of this, horses cannot even touch eachother during filming for legal reasons. filming an actual calvary charge with live horses was not doable.

despite the directors complaints d&d pushed for live horses which severely obstructed shooting. the matter of the horses wasn't decided until days before shooting began and the director was seriously set back by it. because of that set back, the director failed to account for rain days and was on a tight schedule.

d&d ALSO insisted they shoot the scenes in chronological order, so that kit harrington looked just as exhausted as jon snow would realistically be. this created further set backs.

but to make matters worse, it rained for the last three days of shooting. having failed to account for extra days due to d&d's meddling and having to shoot the episode in chronological order, the scripted ending of battle of the bastards was ruined. the director had to call up d&d and, fearing for his reputation, explain the situation.

d&d told him not to worry about it and just improv the end battle scenes. while he was taken aback by this he obliged, and shot a bunch of scenes of men wrestling around in the mud. what he created ended up being the best shots in the entire episode, including the human crunch scene.

whatever ending d&d originally envisioned will never be known now, but we can only assume it has to do with 70 live horses.

>>86631906
So what makes him believe Jon was at a exact mid point? He could've been closer to his own lines.

>>86629477
The point is you should give them an illusion of escape not a real one.

>>86632015
Thanks for the trivia. 70 live horses would've been pretty sweet but a logistical nightmare even for 200 million dollar Hollywood blockbusters. Atleast they trusted in the director enough to solve it.

The ending was stupid.

The twist should have occured with the Bolton army partially defecting/turning on Ramsay due to Ramsay's cruel execution of Rickon.

>>86632112
There was no illusion of escape at Cannae. The Romans were encircled on all fronts and according to stories they started to go completely mad by the realization that death was inevitable. Some even buried their heads in the sand to escape the madness.

>>86632163
Just like the war with emus where Australians did the same.

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Hardhome and the battle where dany ambushed the lannisters (does the battle have a name yet?) was much better imo

Hardhome since it showed the desperation, and hopelessness of the situation. It also established how big if a threat the Night King and WW really are

The Dany/Lannisters battle was great since the show attempted to portray a somewhat realistic organized tactic (spear wall) instead of 2 armies blindly running into eachother full speed. It also served as great character highlight/development for both jaime and bronn continuing to fight a losing battle.

>10/10 from start to finish.

not true, there's a Dany segment in the beginning.

>>86632113
if you want more trivia on the production of game of thrones you should check out dragon demands on youtube. he goes full autismo in 2~ hour videos mostly ranting about how d&d are ruining game of thrones, but theres some really interesting bits of trivia in there that he's scrubbed from interviews with the cast and directors. like how masie williams had to talk them into including shots where arya struggles with her wounds during the braavos chase - there were originally going to include none of that and much more acrobatic stunts.

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I was re-watching the older seasons and it made me wonder. Where the fuck did the Boltons get all these fucking horses from? What the fuck happened to that fuck huge cavalry army that stannos has when he first arrived at the wall and attacked the wildlings? Was it implied that the sellswords stannis had defected to the Boltons? I know he lost half his army after he burned his daughter but damn. I remember how hyped I was when he arrived at the wall and was going to march on winterfell. I was so pissed when this fucking episode happened.

For some reason the greatest strategist in westeros doesn't know how to dress his army for cold weather when he's going to the fucking north in winter

>>86632232
>the battle where dany ambushed the lannisters (does the battle have a name yet?)
>(does the battle have a name yet?)
The Massacre of The Lion

>>86632697
tweentygoodman fucked stannis over

>>86628676
it was pretty kino, one of the better GoT episodes.

>>86632697
TWENTY

>>86632805
Field of Fire 2.0

>>86631187
IMO that was the last highlight of the show. That and the Oberyn fight.

>>86634313
Oberyn fight didn't even have to try, though. That scene was already perfect in the books (probably the most memorable fight) and they pretty much just replicated that.

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>>86629175
>give him a big stick
>make him an iron boot to kick fuckers with
>give him a giant sling like a reverse david vs goliath
a fucking giant is basically a living trebuchet that reloads faster

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>>86632809
>>86632949
To be fair, they were really good men.

>>86628676
It's the shittiest episode of a shit season.

Which season was the worst, 5 or 6? Both are 1/10 turbopleb trash but which one is the worst?

>>86630500
they needed something stupid to trap Jon and force peril before the predictable save

Thats why the corpse wall comes out of nowhere and in the geography of the battle makes little to no fucking sense.

HARDHOME>blackwater>watchers on the wall>battle of the bastards>beyond the wall

2bh

>>86628676

it's trash redditbait

>>86629175

well it's a stupid show so...

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>>86628676
>Is this the greatest TV episode ever made?
I'm sorry to have to post the right answer, OP.

>>86630315
Snowfall

>>86634947
is he actually punching him? looks fake

If you are a low iq retard you would probably find this shit distracting.

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>>86628676
no because we lost the battle in the ice for this bullshit

>>86629937
I like to think Sansa was lying to Arya so Arya wouldn't dare to undermine her
But I know it's not the case

>>86628676
>Rickon didn't zigzag despite being targeted by an archer
>Jon goes full charge alone
>Everyone follows him
>Ramsay could've killed him now just by using his archers but chose to send his men first THEN throw arrows at them
>Giant useless, doesn't have a trunk or anything. Hell, he could've rolled to Ramsay's army and would've been more useful
>Stupid fucks let themselves be surrounded
>Jon's annoying plot armor
>Ramsay still has a 2nd fucking chance to kill Jon but uses his arrow on the giant useless cunt
That was dog shit packed in a pretty box

>>86634947
lane price's technique is archaic and bad, I would expose this sucker big time

It was very well orchestrated. GoT's writing has gone to shit and everything is built around set pieces, which is what we're all watching it for now. This was a good set piece. It was worth it. The same director also did very well with the burning of the Sept of Baelor in E10.

>>86629412
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

>>86630146
>Samwell, his wildling waifu and his wife's son reading a book written by High Septon so and so
>"annullment of the marriage between Rhaegar and Elia and marriage with ... under a heart tree"
hmm i wonder what this could possibly mean

also its a shit move, they should have kept him a bastard

>>86628676
The battle is an absolute mess. amateur hour direction

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>>86634871
Yup

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>>86628676
The episode was a fucking mess.
They were talking strategy in the tent about how they were going to beat a numerically superior army, since Ramsay is overconfident in success and isn't a real battlefield tactician. I was hoping they were going to actually utilize the FUCKING GIANT by maybe arming and armoring him.

Instead we got this.

>>86634693
>give him a giant sling like a reverse david vs goliath

You don't even need to do that. We've already been shown that they use fuckhuge bows that could smash a line through a shieldwall easy-peasy. Where the fuck did that go?

>>86628676
No.
>Edgey mememan Ramsey sniping Rickon from an absurd distance
>Thousands die for no reason because Sansa doesn't tell Jon about the Rohirrim/Vale knights
>Ends with Ramsey killing the giant instead of Jon
It looked cool but D&D writing fucked it up as always

>>86635774
>Ramsay still has a 2nd fucking chance to kill Jon but uses his arrow on the giant useless cunt

To be fair, how would you want to go down? As the dude who just killed some bastard, or the crazy bastard who killed a giant for the first time in centuries(south of the wall)? The way Ramsay wants to prove himself(which is what sets him apart from Roose) in extraordinary fashion I can totally see him focusing on the giant just because he wouldn't want to miss the opportunity of becoming a giantslayer.

>>86628676
Hardhome

>>86629412
yes I remember them turning 180 degrees and running towards eachother

>>86628952
god that surrounding thing was so fucking stupid, I don't know why Dumb & Dretard can't just hire an expert on medieval warfare or something to at least make the battles somewhat sensible

>>86628992
Why?

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>>86632697
>the greatest strategist doesn't know how to dress his army for cold weather when he's going to the fucking north in winter

>>86628676
Would have been better if had some strategy. The Knights of the Vale would have just supplemented a superior battle strategy. Jon would be comparable to Robb who was like MacArthur.

>>86636722
Truthfully it wasn't even satisfying from the perspective of wanting to see Ramsay suffer. Ramsay never made a mistake, he baits Jon with Rickon, forces the rest of his army to come within range of his archers to save his stupid ass, then lures Davos and co to abandon their position so Jon's army can be fully surrounded. They're in the midst of being slaughtered before the Vale cavalry arrives but Jon had no part in that happening. Jon then blindly runs forward only with Wun Wun by his side where he could have easily been killed even with the shift in tone and music. Keep in mind that all of Ramsay's maneuvering goes perfectly executed by his bannermen and he still has men fighting and dying after the Vale cavalry arrives and a giant smashes through their gate. No kind of betrayal ever happens and he has his men's loyalty to the end, it was complete bullshitting Sansa made about them being disloyal in their parlay. He did get punched in the face a lot and eaten by his dogs but that's the most pleb tier of revenge porn.

>>86632232
>Not ussing TWW icons

comeon son

>>86629512
>>86629538
>>86630856
>>86631081
>>86631752
>>86636065
>>86637631
>guy doesn't word himself properly
>seven (7) retards are unable to fill in the gaps and ascertain what he meant

Ramsay's cavalry started charging towards Jon first and they were closer to begin with and yet both cavalries reached Jon at the same time.

>>86628676
They should have given wun wun some armor, full plate with a shield. He probably could have wiped out half of their army.

>>86638969
Jon isn't Robb though

>>86639101
>guy talks like a retard and gets treated like a retard
We don't give a fuck about what he meant. He couldn't even explain what he meant because he hasn't seen the episode so why the fuck should we humour him with discussion?

Can somebody explain to me why everybody's always sucking off Stannis? I'm not a bookfag but in the show he just seemed like a loser. Didn't do anything special and just died like a loser.

>>86639361
It's because he's the only king worth a damn in the books, where he's not a retarded asshole burning his own heir. D&D had something against the character and utterly ruined him in the show, down to not even giving him a good death.

>>86639361
Book and show Stannis are little alike. Book Stannis is hard, firm but also just. He's a fairly mediocre king but even then he's the best one in the seven Kingdoms. He listens to council and acts accordingly.

>>86632015
also the end of the battle was the other northern houses switching sides against the Boltons, Small Jon Umber was to give a speech about the north remembers to proclaim Snow king in the north

>>86628676
its fucking shit you retard

fuck right off

>>86628915
>>86629898
>>86629937
Why the fuck do people keep asking this? She literally fucking says why the very next episode when her and Jon are in Winterfell. Is it the best reason? Maybe not, but it's her reason so it's not ambiguous or anything. Jesus christ why don't people pay attention before asking dumbass questions over and over

>>86634810
5 because both stannis and barristan got raped by d&d

>Running in a perfectly straight line instead of zigzagging when you know someone is trying to kill you with an arrow.

Anyone else pissed off by this?

>>86640350
He hadn’t played enough video games to know this

>>86628676
It's well executed in how it was shot and it has some nice set piece scenarios playing out but it's actually pretty retarded in general. Jon snow 100% should have lost this battle.

>>86640271
What was the reason? I forget.

The whole "wall of corpses" thing is absolutely fucking retarded and stupid, but it's a great episode regardless.

>>86640350
yes, jon dodging a million arrows also annoyed me and dont give me that "well its fantasy brah" bullshit excuse

>>86638858

I'm rusty on my napoleon history. How did he fuck up his campaign in Russia? Detailed summary would be nice

>>86639361

Show Stannis was still somewhat based even tho they fucked up his character
>Has actual claim to throne yet is the first major leader to realize WW is the real threat
>Led the charge and was the first person to land on the beach during battle of Blackwater Bay
>It was his idea originally to pardon the wildlings and to reward them with land and citizenship if they joined his cause and fought for him

I was so fucking pissed how he was defeated

>>86640350
>Anyone else pissed off by this?
No. Because I'm not an autist that can't see how a frightened boy wouldn't just run for his life.

The first season of this show is still the best and it featured zero episode-long action set pieces that were resolved by an unexpected ally riding in to save the protagonist at the last second

>Jon casts protection from arrows

>>86640580
And the best part? even if you read the books it was still really enjoyable and surprising. 1st season is best.

>>86628676
Hardhome is the best GoT episode

I really do not like that no arrow killed Jon Snow.

>>86630330
>>86630303
>>86630282
>>86630220
>>86628690
>>86636264
>"annullment of the marriage between Rhaegar and Elia. POINT
they didn't said yet he married again. And even more didn't was this the state at BoB, so yes he was known as bastard there, and still today

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>>86630146
I bet you feel like a spastic now

>>86640536
>i enjoy watching garbage

>>86639701
>>86639468
>>86640511
He killed his brother that led to the Lanisters winning .

>>86634693
dont forget big ass armour as well

>>86629412
holy shit

>>86636900
But fucking slinging boulders would basically be artillery

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>>86628676
>he hasn't seen The Lost City

>>86640756
Watch the scene again you fucking mongo.

>>86640845
He didn't know the shadow would kill Renly. Or atleast he's lying to himself not knowing.

>>86640845
and if he didnt he wouldve been killed after the renly and reachfags steamroll lannisters

>>86640911
I miss Stargate

The effects are nice, but there's a lot of really stupid shit going on in that battle

>Not arming your one ace, a fucking giant, with like a huge tree or something so it can completely steam roll the enemy
>The forces aren't large enough, with no forced kill zones narrow enough that those huge piles of bodies would make any sort of sense
>Jon's force charging straight into an envelopment and not doing anything as they can see themselves being surrounded
>Vale army conveniently arriving right in the nick of time, and also somehow completely unnoticed by Ramsay or any scouts in the north
>Jon in general being the most inept commander ever as he manages to go through the entire battle without issuing any orders and plays right into Ramsay's plan

>>86641279
We all do anon, we all do.

>>86641419
The main issue is that hardly anyone is using shields or helmets. That's just retarded.

>>86641542
You just have to accept that television is always going to have the visible helmet toggle set to off. It's simply too hard to depict facial expressions under a helmet.

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>>86640952
you fucked faced autist, he was still known as a bastard at the battle

>>86628676
I really don't understand all the hype about Battle of the Bastards. I thought Blackwater and Hardhome were both much better. It was fun, but it's strange to see people praising it so much. Is it because it was the only good part of an otherwise mediocre season?

>>86640350
Not really, he's a spoiled child who's never fought a single battle in his life. Also, he had no way of knowing that Ramsay was going to murder him, given what a valuable hostage he was. It would have been unrealistic if he zigzagged.

>>86641419
There are no scouts in game of thrones lad. Lannister army marched for hundreds of miles deep into Tyrell territory and managed to sneak right up to their castle doorstep.

Huge fleets go unnoticed until they are literally crashing into eachother.

Stannis managed to land beyond the wall with thousands of horses unnoticed.

The list goes on.

>>86638081
Unless you have far, far more troops than your opponent, doing so only thins out your line and allows them to use local superiority of numbers to multiply their effectiveness and break the encirclement.

The proper move would be a simple pincer movement, hard and fast, as Stannis would understand.

>>86629412
one of the most retarded things I've ever read on this forum, congrats bro

>>86632697
D&D lobotimized show stannis, whe have been over this a thousand times now.

>>86639468
Isn't it possible that Mellisandre will burn Shireen (with permission of the mother) at the wall? Without Stannis knowing.

>>86642851
Yes, but it's not possible that Stannis will order her burning himself, much less stand and watch while she screams.

>>86642555
There were scouts in the early seasons. Remember when Robb captures a Lannister scout and purposely misleads him in order to trick the Lannister army?

>>86642851
That is very possible, because her mother doesn't even like her. But it won't be Stannis who does it, which is too major a point to ignore. Making it so that Stannis burns her while the mother suddenly doesn't want to burn her because "muh mother's love" was pure character assassination and hack writing in one.

>>86629313
>there's no brothels in the North in the show.
Do you even watch the show?

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Dany, Dany, Dany!

>>86642900
>>86643172
Thanks for the refresher, it's been a while since I read the books.
Book 6 when?

>>86643227
>>86629313
There have been plenty of opportunities for gratuitios sex or nudity
>Elaria Sand and Yara bang
>Cersei abusing Elaria and/or Yara while captured
>Euron raping someone
>The mountain raping Unella

That's just off the top of my head

>>86642813
He better not turn into a fucking retard in the next book, assuming it's ever released.

>>86642182
I'm not disputing that, but he annulled his marriage to Elia and was simultaneously remarried to Lyanna.

>>86629412
This post takes the crown.
There are unironically people in this board who are this brain fried.

>>86628952
What were they thinking using an aerieal shot? It just exposes how stupid this is, and how ridiculous that pile of body looks.

>>86643977
stannis wil probably be defeated in the north, maybe at winterfel by the boltons, but it wont be some bullshit reason.
GRRM gave his notes about how the books will end to D&D afterall in case he dies from being to fat.

>>86629412
is this a bait of an artisan?

>>86632027
Well, he's dead according to anon, so we'll never know I guess. It's too bad really, if you're going to theorize about Got at least make sure your sources aren't dead just in case you're called out and need further clarification from said dead sources.

>>86629808
>call something the night king
>its scary you guys I swear
the night king is gay as fuck lmao.

Also we already knew the walkers were scary. did we really need a shitty boring hour long reminder?

>>86630055
it is reddit bait however

Why name of the enemy is night king?

>>86644666
>grrm
>notes
tell me you don't actually believe this. The man never plans anything, that's why the books are so ridiculous

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>>86628676
No. True Detective S1E4.

>>86638858
Napoleon's army froze on the way back. If the Russians weren't fucking niggers and fought instead of burning their capital, he would've won

>>86628690
Stfu buttmongle

>>86629720
>>>/r9k/

>>86629412
austism: the post

>>86642182
You stupid fucking dickwrinkle whether or not he's known as a bastard is irrelevant. The fact is he isn't a bastard. Now end your pathetic, worthless life and spare us all from your ignorant shitposting.

>>86628676
"you havent fed them for days, you said so yourself" SHE LEFT BEFORE HE SAID THAT

spend millions on CGI, forget basic storytelling

>a game of deus ex machinas

>>86628750
It was revealed in 07x05 that there was a secret annulment of Rhaegar's marriage to Elia Martell and was remarried to Lyanna Stark, which makes Jon legitimate.

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>>86628676
Blackwater is the best battle. If you liked any other better you are a pleb.

Particularly BoB with...
>Wun Wun with no armor
>Jon charging blindly into the frey like a retard
>Teleporting CIA army
>Encirclement done wrong
>Butthurt Salsa thinks herself a master strategist

It was shit.

Blackwater is a millionth times better both in realism, visuals, characters, and narrative.

>>86628676
why did he fight with his brother Ramsay Snow?

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>>86629412
Is this the most brain dead poster in 4chan's history?

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>>86629412
Retard KYS.

>>86648532
Mah nigga
Blackwater really shone because it showed multiple parts of the same battle
>Attacking with Stannis
>Defending with Tyrion
>Hoping for the best with Cersei and Sansa
Also tyrion's speech was great
"Don't fight your king, don't fight for glory, don't fight for richies, because you won't get any. This is your city Stannis means to sack, if he gets through it wil be your houses he'll burn, your gold he'll steal, your women he'll rape"

>>86649627
>if he gets through it wil be your houses he'll burn, your gold he'll steal, your women he'll rape"
i guess d&d forgot Stannis allows none of these things didnt they?

>>86649984
IIRC this is also said in the books
And it's a speech to embolden the soldiers defending the city by stating that all they have is at stake

>>86632015
Nice pasta

>>86649984
>lying isnt allowed

>>86640511
>I'm rusty on my napoleon history. How did he fuck up his campaign in Russia? Detailed summary would be nice
He invaded Russia and the Russians retreated.
On his march to Moscow there was only one battle afaik and he won, everything went without a hitch, he was fully prepared and his army was superior, but when he occupied Moscow he went full retard.
He wasted one month on the city while the weather became colder and the Russians had sacked the city and burned it. Napoleon was then forced to retreat and more than 90% of his army was killed on the way back.

>>86629538
I don't even know you and can already tell you're a Cunt. That clearly wasn't what he meant

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>>86629412
I need to leave this place..

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>>86649984
>Stannis allows none of these things
Rh'llor hungers anon.