/who/ - Doctor Who General

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Doctor Whore

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>/who/ presents:
DOCTOR WHO: SHIT TRIPS Vol. 2
- The Anthology -

>Are you a true fan of Doctor Who?
>Have you ever written down a sequence of words?

If the answer is yes or no, then you are ready to contribute a literary masterpiece to the second /who/ collection of original Doctor Who-based short fiction.

/who/ did it once. Now, we're gonna do it again! Yet another entry in an age-old tradition of p̶a̶c̶k̶a̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶f̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶i̶t̶i̶m̶a̶c̶y̶ / celebrating the magic of Who and the talent of a community.

There are no limits (except the story must be at least 1 word long, and preferably not in excess of 10,000, it's short fiction you fuck).

>- Can involve any Doctor(s), companion(s), side characters, spinoff characters and beyond, as your heart desires
>- Can be in any style, whether it's "legitimate writing", "pisstake", or "shitpost".
>- Can be about absolutely anything
>- The main focus is on good fun in the vein of the wiki, although serious entries are allowed. (If you're going to write smut, maybe approach it with a degree of levity)

Stuck for ideas? Try starting with your favourite TARDIS team (or for timeliness, Whittaker 13th Doctor) and one of these authentic titles:
http://www.saberpunk.net/DoctorWho/DoctorWhoSerialGenerator.php
https://glyphobet.net/drwho

We are going to be starting an index on the wiki for the collection. Anyone can contribute, no signups/pitches required. If you have ideas, feel free to broadcast them.
The rest is self-explanatory. Format for uploading your work is up to you, as long as it can be conveniently copied across (and ideally don't spam long texts in /who/ directly). (Pastebin works well.)

BONUS: Anyone who wants to do cover art or "illustrations" is encouraged.

WE need more entries for classic as well as NuWho Doctors. Entries for Thirteen are accepted as well. Aug 10th is deadline

>>85598911
When she meets her prior incarnations, do you think they would fuck?

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>>85598924

>>85598933
that raises a question:
if time lords can change gender on regeneration, what is stopping them from impregnating a past/future self and keeping the species from dying out?

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>>85598892
>>85598911

>>85598933
Maybe Nine to Twelve.

marthas theme is GOAT

I guess this is the most fitting thread theme |:

https://youtu.be/7vHnCoURs7E

>>85598955
looms

Doctor Who is dead

I'm preparing to masturbate on Claudia Boleyn
Ask me anything

>>85598892
>>85598940
>>85598962
Can you please stay on topic and stop spamming this ugly 'woman'?

First for jack miles is a genuinely shitty human being who rewrote scripts after claudia was cast so he could kiss her and she rightfully jumped ship because of it

>>85599004
The genderfluid genius indeed has their flaws

Friendly reminder the /who/ Foreman audio is nearly done, just needs a lady to do Nirvi's lines

>>85598988
are you the anon who was meant to post his dick after S10 wasn't all kino?

>>85599004
who
what

>>85598988
What lube do you use, or do you go in dry?

>>85599018
If Edge won't do it, can't someone just do a Miss Piggy voice for Nirvi?

>>85599018
does it need to be a lady?

>>85599004
Also, not discounting what you say because I'm sure it was a factor, but the official line is Claudia dropped out after her overdose/suicide attempt? cause of stress and all that
In case some anons aren't up to date on their Foreman lore
>>85599028

>>85598996
Hey man, I just posted the OP, I'm not the one spammin'

>>85599028
you need to read up on /who/ lore

>>85599028
https://www.blackveilentertainment.org/foreman

>>85599056
But you are CONTRIBUTING TO IT!

CEASE CONTRIBUTING

CEASE CONTRIBUTING

CEASE

>>85599045
>>85599044
I'm not the director of the audio, who seems to be a lovely bloke that's done good work organising it all, so I can't really answer that. I i r c he said as a last resort a man doing a lady's voice would have to work.
The director guy has links to the scripts and stuff, he'll read this eventually I'm sure

>>85599032
we aren't all circumcised americans you know

>>85599076
Let /who/ die amirite

Who's better? Luke Newman or Jack Miles?

>>85599028
>>85599072
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Foreman
^ Better source

On a more meta level I think a tonne of wind was taken out of Foreman's sails when Capaldi Who started and was a lot more noticeably...ugh, how to put this. There were less flippant things to get misconstrued as sexism and whatnot, and it was character-based enough it was pretty clear that Moff deeply cared about characters like Clara and Missy. So the "WE'RE REBELLING AGAINST SEXIST DOCTOR WHO BY MAKING A PROGRESSIVE DOCTOR WHO" narrative that Foreman was born out of got undercut really badly. What was left was basically the genderfluid genius' vanity project, which explains a lot of why it hasn't gone well since. What passion is left? Why does it need to exist?

>>85599072
>Nirvi was raised in a loving family and always found her interests nourished and her choices supported - even when she abandoned her faith in Islam

This isn't a very realistic narrative tbqh

>>85599108
edgy

>>85599117
I remember Foreman was announced right after Series 8 ended though.

>>85599146
Was it? More fool I then. I guess I could weakly push my point as by the time now of S9 and S10 it was pretty clear Capaldi Who was fundamentally different from Matt Who in those ways, but t b h there's not much meat on that bone.

I am convinced that Neo is Claudia
it explains so much

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>>85599189

/who/ I challenge you to the Moff challenge
Between now and Christmas, watch the following episodes
>The Empty Child
>The Doctor Dances
>The Girl in the Fireplace
>Blink
>Silence in the Library
>Forest of the Dead
>The Eleventh Hour
>The Beast Below
>The Time of Angels
>Flesh and Stone
>The Pandorica Opens
>The Big Bang
>A Christmas Carol
>The Impossible Astronaut
>Day of the Moon
>A Good Man Goes to War
>Let's Kill Hitler
>The Wedding of River Song
>The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe
>Asylum of the Daleks
>The Angels Take Manhattan
>The Snowmen
>The Bells of Saint John
>The Name of the Doctor
>The Day of the Doctor
>The Time of the Doctor
>Deep Breath
>Into the Dalek
>Listen
>Time Heist
>The Caretaker
>Dark Water
>Death in Heaven
>Last Christmas
>The Magician's Apprentice
>The Witch's Familiar
>The Girl Who Died
>The Zygon Inversion
>Heaven Sent
>Hell Bent
>The Husbands of River Song
>The Pilot
>Extremis
>The Pyramid at the End of the World
>World Enough and Time
>The Doctor Falls
Are you Moff enough to complete the challenge?

But like, seriously, where did you get these photos

>>85599189
>>85599220
i bet every doctor who dvd i own claudia has no idea what a drashig is. meanwhile neo spams them all the time.

>>85599222
I have literally been doing this already since the finale, except I'm watching every episode not just the Moffinator's ones

>>85599222
Nice trips, but wouldn't a better idea to stream all these episodes so that we can comment and watch them all together?

>>85599222
Nice trips
And looking at A Good Man Goes to War through to The Snowmen, I never realised how shit Series 6 part 2 and Series 7 part 1 sucked.

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could you guys politely never make another thread on /tv/ again? thanks :) !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phhgNy319X8

>>85599222
>no Continuity Errors, Curse of Fatal Death, the Least Important Man, What I Did on My Christmas Holidays by Sally Sparrow, Corner of the Eye, or Letter from the Doctor
Pleb.

>>85599249
I fully endorse this suggestion

>>85599227
I didn't post those photos. And I don't know why anons are acting like they're some big secret, if you google "Claudia Boleyn" they're right there on the google images first page, from her tumblr

>>85599267
>forgetting time crash and the night of the doctor
embarrassing

>>85599222
That's easy mode. Hard mode would be including every other show that Moffat wrote. Press Gang, Joking Apart, Chalk, Murder Most Horrid, Coupling, Jekyll, Sherlock, etc.

Bonus Round: The Adventures of Tintin movie.

>>85599308
>Press Gang, Joking Apart, Chalk, Murder Most Horrid, Coupling, Jekyll, Sherlock
I'm planning to go through all those next year, to combat Moff withdrawals when he leaves Who

>"IS HE HERE? IS THE DOCTOR HERE?"
>AND
>MATT LUCAS

>>85599222
im doing a full nu-who rewatch so

https://youtu.be/rY-FJvRqK0E

>>85599352
you have 6.34 seconds to defend posting this video by explaining how it is /who/-related

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>>85599352
this is epic

>>85599261
nardy or nardie?

Eve Myles is a great actress. Do you agree?

>>85599394
poor defence

>>85599269
Me and you anon? Right now? In the stream? You'll have to find the episodes but I'll be up at least another 4 hours.

>>85599413
Yes. The whole Torchwood cast is comprised of genuinely fantastic actors.

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>>85599369
Vicki's space dog was a shrimp

>>85599413
yup torchwood cast is all great

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>>85599409
>>85599414
Introducing KERO KERO BONITO
as
THE WAR SHRIMP

>>85599413
She's good

>>85599441
Love this

Torchwood and SJA had GOAT casts, so why did Class have none of that?

>>85599413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYAiKHnFoY

>>85599460
Their audios together are GOAT

>>85599458
because it turns out spin offs are better when people actually care about the part of the main show that your spinning off.

Torchwood's characterkino > Capaldi's era characterflick

you can't argue with that
Owen's trilogy is amazing stuff
Deaths of two main characters are amazingly touching

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Introducing
TORCHWOOD
as
THE WAR TORCHWOOD

>>85599460
when rhys "died" in series 1 I was legitimately upset because he was so fucking good
thank christ he didn't actually

>>85598892

Her Tumblr is all Emmerdale Farm memes. Mental health is a serious.

>>85599488
t b h all i remember was sex gas and kid meth

Does she have hairy arms? How much can she grow?

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I want to cum in her mouth badly.

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>>85599517
anon...

>>85599506
Hey, I like how you write out your abbreviations!

>>85599501
He gets some audios to himself

>>85599488
I loved how gwen was the main character at the beggining and then the show slowly treated everyone the same

>>85598984
i can't believe she made an 8min song personifying her vagina. and it's actually good

>>85599539
Is that what it's about? I can't really hear lyrics in music

>>85599488
>Deaths of two main characters are amazingly touching
Tbqh while it was sad to see Owen and Tosh die, Exit Wounds was a legitimately bad episode and ruined it. The "touching" part of Torchwood was all the actual character building, not the lazy knocking of it all down. Ianto's death was possibly even worse, since it wasn't just done because the actors were leaving, and the cast of the show was already too small - without him it just feels lacking, and I think Ianto's absence is part of why Miracle Day was mediocre.

>>85599494
Why is she still wit that loser? She needs to be true to herself and sleep with everyone, like Jack does. Didn't Owen fuck her too, what a slag?

>>85599460
Holy FUCK I forgot how good they were together. I need to rewatch Torchwood very badly.

>>85599554
Exit Wounds isn't bad. Maybe it's underwhelming, but I don't see how its bad
Fragments is golden though.

>>85599506
the sex gas episode is legitimately good and I will fight you

>>85599548
yeah, "celestia" is her vagina. the lyrics are about rape culture and how society forces her to cover it up both physically (clothes) and socially (by not talking about it)

she also has a rap feature apparently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQ9Ua9PcjE

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>>85599517
>Half-Indian Half-English
one of the best combos

>>85599554
Before Miracle Day, I thought they were building Lois Habiba, that one woman who blew up Jack, and Rhys as the next generation of Torchwood that Gwen would train. But that didn't amount to anything.

https://youtu.be/Ta3ENPUP5k4

Some Torchwood character building scenes from a great ep by Chibnall

>>85599579
lol some of the s1 character stuff is so dodgy I try to pretend it didn't happen

>>85599588
Damn I thought it was an Anne Boleyn thing. Song's p good for the genre though, i d k how some musicians just do singles then let years pass though.

>>85599579
Her fling with Owen was following Countrycide, and was simply a result of a buildup of sexual tension and the right amount of pressure from work to cause something to happen. It wasn't love, and it didn't amount to anything.

>>85599588
j f c cats, this rap song is terrible, bring back celestia

>>85599590
nirvi 3.0

>>85599590
I saw a chick on youtube and she was Italian and she said that her cousin (Naomi) is in the movie and the's proud

>https://www.instagram.com/p/BSoy9QaBkWK/?taken-by=clari_borghi
>[email protected] not yet! I said it beacuse my cousin Naomi is the Pink ranger in the movie, i'm proud

How is that possible that she's 'indian english' but has an italian cousin?

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>>85599504
Yeah but there's also the occasional gem

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>mfw someone says doctor who isnt real

I want Chibnall to make S11 have a slightly larger TARDIS team and make it have a GOAT ensemble of lovable chums like Torchwood

>>85599644
>j f c cats, this rap song is terrible, bring back celestia

i know right? british rap (grime) is generally shit because of the accent. it's just not made for hard music

>>85599655
it's real alright

real gay

lmfao

>>85599666
I agree, and support a shrimp companion

>>85599655
man I still forget that they really did an episode with emojis
what were they thinking
it's not like the emojis serve as some sort of urban horror and take on the modern world's reliance on smartphones, they're just fucking future robots with emojis for faces
god that episode was shit

Cyberwoman is at the very least okay episode.

Claiming it as the worst ever is the meme. Costume of black chick is kind of embarassing, yea, but aside from that it's a pretty emotional episode with some cool stuff in it.

>>85599683
I've never really listened to Aussie rap, is ours even worse?

>>85599699
Ep was shit cause of the writing, I thought the emojibots were cute

>>85599683
try this, then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEmqJBcQ2lg

shuttity up up up

>>85599702
tbqh if the costume for the cibberwoman wasn't so shit it would be fine. the story is pretty good.

>>85599699
The emojis weren't even the worst part. It was the ending where the emojibots are let off scot free for murdering innocent people and turning them into mulch just because they were on the cusp of becoming a sentient species, and how they'll allow humans on their colony in exchange for money.

>>85599588
>"celestia" is her vagina
fuck I never realised that

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Out of Time and Captain Jack Harkness are both GOAT episodes better than anything in NuWho

>>85599727
Something interesting could have been done if the show more explicitly tied Smile and Oxygen's politics together, or the issue of consent that reared up blatantly in the Monk trilogy with the the tangles of Smile's ending. But nope.

>>85599705
>I've never really listened to Aussie rap, is ours even worse?
absolutely. as a white guy even i have to say that "white-sounding" accents, american, british, aussie or whatever just don't work with rap music most of the time. the only poppin rappers here seem to be white so there's nothing worth listening to.

>>85599754
So what was the deal with that old guy Bilis? Or that one girl with the tarot cards?

>>85599754
I agree. I like adrift alot too. It's more straightforward, but the emotions and the ending just destroy you. Pure chibskino.

>>85599754
>when john tells jack "don't condemn me to live"
>the scene in out of time where jack stays in the car with john while they leave the engine on to kill themselves and jack is still alive the following morning
utter god tier
cry my eyes out desu

>>85598962
>>85598940
>>85598923
WHo the fuck is this?

>>85599754
Both are written by Catherine Tregenna too. I was really looking forward to The Girl Who Lived since she was writing that but eh it never really clicked for me.

>>85599804
Claudia Boleyn.

Neat comment on Sandifer's Jubilee post (abridged for space):

"This is what Big Finish is for. JNT thought of Doctor Who and its history as a series of superficial fetishes with no deeper meaning, and that all of which Doctor Who was capable was that superficiality. Haigh-Ellery, Briggs, Shearman, and many of the other writers of Big Finish understand the complexity and power of the images and concepts Doctor Who has developed.

A story like Jubilee can use the iconography of Doctor Who to show the power of an idea that has come to be treated superficially. And in the Eruditorum's narrative, it examines the social problems of refusing to take history seriously, which is also a look at the causes of the cancellation. The continual downgrade in quality from 1982-6 that resulted in the 1989 cancellation was based in having taken the show to be capable only of superficiality. In the larger political sphere, when one takes the ugly elements of one's history superficially, as empty signifiers that could never have had any weight, that's the greatest moment of danger of repeating those destructive acts.

To overcome the mistakes of the past, you must never take yourself to have overcome them, and safely sanitize those mistakes as superficial toys and icons. Jubilee articulates the show as a living history, an ongoing process. And politically, we as humans have to understand history as a living process by which we are the products of our destructive pasts. Only by understanding this element of our current identities can we genuinely become a better society. Overcoming past ills isn't a matter of learning to forget them, but including them in your identity in a way that makes you stronger through accepting the possibility of weakness."

>>85599710
too happy sorry

>>85599815
That's the same problem with a lot of Who writers. Guys like RTD and Chibnall are great at writing character stories, but they for some reason decided to do goofy monster stories instead for most of their Doctor Who work. They were gun writers thinking they could write frock.

>>85599863
I dunno on Chibnall, I think The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood are great tbqh. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship is decent if a bit too ambitious for 45 minutes and has some shoddy directing. The Power of Three has some great character stuff the first 30-40 minutes and a shit ending.

>>85599702
>>85599724
To be fair, Chibbers thought the Cyberwoman costume was shit too.

>>85599843
Imagine not listening to music because it's happy.

>>85599815
The trouble with Girl Who Died was that Tregenna couldn't just wirte a character piece because it was Doctor Who, so she had to stick a pointless alien monster plot in it, and the two things just don't mesh.

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>>85599843
I thought you'd like something softer 'cause you can't take it hard

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>>85599818

Where the fuck do you find these people?

>>85599894
no he didn't. in the commentary for that episode he goes on about how the effects department did wonders for it. where are you getting this?

>>85599910
Claudia's a fairly old meme m8

>>85599863
Mate RTD was great at making monsters
judoon
ood
slitheen
cassandra o brien dot delta seventeen


[spoilers]not tritovores[/spoiler]

where did gareth roberts go wrong
will chibnall absolve him of his sins

>>85599900
I'll put you on something hard, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iI3B-vuLPA
Can you feel that?

>>85599916
to be fair dead asian guy was pretty impressive
and cgi pterodactyle fight scene

I wanna binge watch Torchwood now.

>>85599971
right but he specifically was talking about the costume.

>>85599900
>>85599969
ooh

>>85599986
been rewatching it listening to the commentaries, it's fun.
chibnall seems like a good dude and I reckon he'll make a good showrunner honestly.

>>85599863
>Chibnall
>great at writing character stories
Not really. Broadchurch is only good because it keeps you curious about how the season's storyline will end.
Most of the characters are pretty mediocre. Whittaker has to play a one-note (and frankly insufferable) "grieving mother" character with no additional dimensions to her the whole time.

>>85599986
There is the stream anon...someone (You) could put on season 1....

>>85600006
have you listened to his screenwriting podcast where he talks about writing with some dudes?
we had it on casualwhostream and we might relisten to it if people are interested
he seems like a really humble and honest guy
less emotional than rtd and less quirky than moffat but he really seems just like a guy who wants things done right

http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/time-can-be-rewritten-25-jubilee/

The comments here make me fucking furious. Some guy has a go for 3 of Shearman's audio stories sharing some similar ideas (as if authors having pet themes is a bad idea!?!?!?! Wtf. That'd make Shakespeare and Dostoyevsky hacks too, fucking idiotic idea) and Shearman himself shows up in the comments to agonise about it and say that idea was why he stopped writing more Doctor Who audios or writing for NewWho again

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>85600018
I disagree honestly. I don't know why you think Whittaker's character is strictly a grieving mother, since that's really the role of Buchan's character. Whittaker plays a mother trying to hold her family together, who eventually hardens up because she knows she has to.

>>85599754
>>85599791
I don't remember any of this. Maybe I should rewatch Torchwood but I really don't want to.

>>85600051
kek I wish this could happen to moff

>>85600051
expanding on my rage

REEEEEEE THE FUCKING STUPID COMMENTER BASICALLY CALLS SCHERZO AND JUBILEE SHIT TO SHEARMAN'S FACE AND SHEARMAN TAKES IT SERIOUSLY AND NOW HE DOESNT WRITE DOCTOR WHO ANYMORE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85600072
at least rewatch that episode. it's fucking great and pretty self contained.

>>85599916
Just kinda remember reading it somewhere, if I'm wrong my bad

>>85600087
poor shearman :(

>>85600087
based commenter saving who from shearshit

>>85600057
>I don't know why you think Whittaker's character is strictly a grieving mother
Because her main function in the story, and her main motivation, is that. Everything else is secondary. She's also the same exact character as Ambrose from The Hungry Earth.

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ALRIGHT YOU FUCKS

SOMEONE BETTER GET IN THE STREAM AND PUT ON THAT LIST OF MOFFAT EPISODES OR THE WHOLE OF SERIES 1 OF TORCHWOOD OR ELSE I START SHOOTING

Final rage vent

THESE BLOODY STUPID IDIOTS JUST WANT DOCTOR WHO TO DO SUPERFICIALLY DIFFERENT STORIES, THEY HAVE EVERYTHING BACKWARDS, THEY WANT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MONSTERS ON SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DRESSED SETS EVERY WEEK, BUT BALK AT ANY THEMES BEING REVISITED

Themes and motifs have to repeat that's how they fucking work and pet themes are one of the greatest ways authors can examine ideas in depth ahgrhgrhgr this is why Moff is so interesting too, Girl in Fireplace and Amy Pond are same "basic" idea but look how much more he mines out of the idea by doing it twice

It kills me, it truly fucking depresses me, that there are fuckwits like this basically directly telling big finish "MORE BRIGGS """""SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT""""" DALEK SHIT EVERY MONTH PLEASE, NO MORE OF THAT SHEARMAN CRAP!"

>>85600106
ahgrhgrhgr can you imagine? Poor guy sounds so self-conscious, he comes into a gushing post by Sandifer calling it as a masterpiece and says "the ending is terrible i screwed it up so bad :(" and some commenters egg him on and make him feel worse, it's so fucked up, what do they even want out of Doctor Who :'(

>>85600107
he could have done
SO
MUCH
MORE

>>85600051
must suck to be a writer on who.
the doctor who fanbase in general seem like total cunts to the writers.

>>85600139
YOU'LL CALL NOW!

>>85600149
Definitely need thick skin. But why do some of the best writers have the thinnest skins :'(

>>85600139
check out casualwhostream, I think you'll be pleased :^)

>>85600142
I know your pain. It happens for the TV series too. You go on Planet Mondas and people are campaigning for a return to "good old adventures" with corridors and ray guns and generic aliens and no story arcs. For fucks' sake, there were even people saying that RIGHT AFTER Heaven Sent aired.

I totally appreciate that Moffat is a brave guy who is exploring new themes and concepts and goes for risks instead of writing "INT. SPACESHIP." every week like 95% of scifi writers do.

But I don't think that going for risks and being brave works for itself, it has to be followed with good execution. I think Moff deeply lacks on that unless he's working on it for a long time (his RTD scripts, heaven sent, eleventh hour etc).

I'd prefer INT. SPACESHIP stories if they were engaging and good enough for me to enjoy them rather than something ebin and risky but poof in the result

>>85600186
I do want story arcs to go desu

gridlock is fucking awesome

>>85600203
>I'd prefer INT. SPACESHIP stories if they were engaging and good enough for me to enjoy them rather than something ebin and risky but poof in the result
Huh, it's the opposite for me.

>>85600203
The difference is, I imagine you don't go writing e-mails to Moffat saying "FUCK YOUR IDEAS, REMAKE THE ARK IN SPACE EVERY WEEK". There's a difference between preferences and being a dickhead to a clearly self-conscious writer. Moff's got thicker skin too.

>>85600186
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>85600254
hahaha no

im gonna bully shearman into giving me his abandoned doctor who ideas so i can publish them instead. ive talked to him before and i bet he's a total pushover

>>85600051
To be completely honest, I don't disagree on the argument that a lot of Shearman's stories are very similar to each other. Most of his audios share the basic story of breaking out of a loop, so as I listened to more of them (The Chimes of Midnight, then Scherzo, then The Holy Terror, then Punchline), great as they are, they became more and more predictable to me.
I think Jubilee and Deadline are his best audios because they have more original plots.
(that said, the guy who insults Shearman is still an asshole and TARDIS Eruditorum is still a shithole)

im gonna bully the anon that is going to bully shearman into giving him his abandoned doctor who ideas so he can publish them instead, so i can publish them instead. ive talked to him before and i bet he's a total pushover

Doctor Who hasn't been good since series 5.

>>85600305
I disagree

>>85600305
Are you ian from planet mondas?

>>85600258
Same, I'd take a messy but ambitious story over competent baseline stuff any day. But I don't begrudge people that think the opposite as long as they aren't cunts to writers about it

>>85600288
I'm not disagreeing with that either, Shearman absolutely has pet themes, I'm saying that's not inherently a bad thing, and a DOCTOR WHO FAN to tell a guy who's repeated some similar ideas ~4 times is like a hack is just hilariously tone deaf. Why doesn't he go after Briggs cause of MUH PARTICLES

>>85600294
Intriguing idea

>>85600305
i think doctor who started being good at series 5 and it hasn't stopped

neo why are you so infatuated with claudia
seems like someone is being a bully

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>it's an RTD episode

>>85600351
How am I bullying her?? I've never insulted her. How is linking to her content 'bullying'?

>>85600378
bully!

>>85600401
Was that bullying joke REALLY necessary?

>>85600305
go back to /r/television

>>85599369
The Invisible Enemy.

BTFO.

>>85600288
listening to shearman's stories taught me that once an interesting mystery is explained it's no longer interesting, and so you should wrap up the story pretty soon after that point. chimes of midnight is great but once you learn the house is alive or w/e it's no longer compelling. similarly the worst part of the holy terror is when the baby is introduced but i think mostly that's because of how disgusting the voice is lmao

i dont mean that in a bad way either, it was a genuinely good lesson and neither of those were bad endings. its just once you get to that point, the story needs to end asap

>>85600336
S6 and 7

who /infp/ here?

>>85600510
>meyers-briggs meme test
come back after you've done an OCEAN

>>85600378
>How is linking to her content 'bullying'?
Because you're aware that most people here view her and her content in a mocking/negative way. It's like showing pictures of somebody to a person that hates them. If you do it without comment it's basically a form of bullying because you're facilitating/endorsing hateful discussion towards that person.

I don't know if you were serious about your question or not but there's an answer to it.

>>85600551
I was serious about my question. And I disagree with your assertion that it's bullying to link public content to a public forum. You're assuming a lot about me and about other /who/res.

Neo why are you buillying RTD

yo claudia's hot as fuck

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>>85600614
>It's a questioning my "buillying" thread

>>85600524
just tried it out and got high Openness and Neuroticism and low everything else. it's not wrong but desu that description fits me much worse than INFP

>>85600580
>And I disagree with your assertion that it's bullying to link public content to a public forum
You're oversimplifying what I said in order to make it sound absurd.

>You're assuming a lot about me and about other /who/res.
No I'm not. I didn't make any assumptions or assertions about your opinion towards Claudia whatsoever, and I've been a part of /who/ long enough to know what the general consensus about her here is. It's not inaccurate to say that there is a significant number of people here that have negative feelings towards her.

>>85600662
Neo is a full on commie, I think he unironically supports Claudia

>>85600662
I personally would like to see more of Claudia's body of work.

>>85600662
And you're twisting my actions to make them sound spiteful. We can play the semantics game as long as we like.

>It's not inaccurate to say that there is a significant number of people here that have negative feelings towards her.

Sure. How does that make my watching and linking of her videos bullying?

>>85600662
>>85600677
this, have you actually hung out with him on stream? i assume he gets a laugh out of linking her from cletuses reacting to it, by all accounts hes as sjw

>>85600658
That's because myers-briggs is horoscope tier generic/optimistic since it's vague enough to apply to people at least remotely and it provides a positive message that people are more willing to accept

>>85600700
I'm not twisting anything though. I don't know how you personally feel about Claudia and I haven't made any claims about that. You asked a question and I answered it. You can bully or contribute to bullying without it being your intention. You're being weirdly defensive instead of just properly reading what I said.

I never intended this to be an argument, especially because it's not something I'm particularly invested in.

>>85600740
Uh I never said that the OCEAN one was negative. It was just less fitting, I didn't feel any other type of way about it

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Can it get any comfier than this?

>when you realise jack harkness had more episodes than literally every other nuwho character.

when will orb bring us fire

>>85600755
It's disappointing to try and engage earnestly with someone's opinion, and get met with "you're being defensive", "I don't want to argue", "You asked a question and I answered it" and other dismissive statements like that. Or for a discussion to get framed as a hostile argument.

You made a claim, I responded to back, how come all of a sudden you're shrinking away from it after I took what you're saying seriously? This "you're defensive!" game is always tiresome because it's basically shaming someone for engaging unironically and earnestly in a conversation. Maybe it's a joke to you, or something you're not invested in, to claim I'm bullying someone, but I'll take it as seriously as I please.

Sure 4chan isn't always the most conductive place for being earnest, but I'm happy to engage earnestly on /who/, I don't care if that gets derided or misrepresented, because it's there plain to see and people can make up their own minds on it.

>>85599636
Cool motive, still Just a slut

i just fuckin miss torchwood lads

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>>85600888
It's back, in audio form!

>>85600888
And uhh some more helpful links
https://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/torchwood

https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/new-series-5-of-torchwood-aliens-among-us

I know it's not the same though :/

>>85600614
because he hates doctor who

>>85600844
>It's disappointing to try and engage earnestly with someone's opinion, and get met with "you're being defensive", "I don't want to argue", "You asked a question and I answered it" and other dismissive statements like that. Or for a discussion to get framed as a hostile argument.
I agree. I'm feeling a similar feeling of frustration because I made my point and you haven't actually addressed it other than saying "I disagree" and then following that up with a misrepresentation/misunderstanding of what I said. None of my responses have been an attempt to dismiss what you're saying because I feel like you haven't actually responded earnestly to it in the first place. From my perspective, you've been the dismissive one. All I've been doing is trying to avoid having to restate what I said because I feel like saying it once should have been enough and I'm lazy.

Your post almost feels like you're making fun of me because it's basically exactly how I feel about you in this situation. All I wanted was for you to earnestly respond to my original point, which you haven't.

Just to stop us from going around in circles anymore where we both just tell the other one to respond properly I'll try to restate/clarify it:
The reason I personally believe what you're doing can be seen as bullying isn't because I believe you personally dislike Claudia but it's because you're presenting her to a forum where you know she is disliked without comment. So it's facilitating/endorsing hateful discussion towards her, regardless of your intention or personal opinion.

That's all I was saying. I never twisted your words or made any assumptions about your personal views whatsoever.

>>85600919
>came out this month

might buy this just to show support desu. stars are alligning for a torchwood reboot

I don't like Hell Bent and I'm not a big fan of late Smith era. I also don't like Clara as a character and, in fact, I find her annoying in a bad way.
Please treat my opinion with respect.

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>>85601048
im not gonna treat ur opinion with respect until you treat my waifu with respect

>>85601048
I disagree, but your opinion is fine by me.

>>85601048
fag

>>85601048
no.

>>85601069
do you disavow homophobes?

>>85601059
I'd be delighted to show her my respect.

>>85601059
I'd respect her all night long in various positions

>>85601048
"[Character] annoys me" is less a respectable opinion and more an allergy.

Favorite finale - Bad Wolf / Parting of the Ways
Least favorite finale - Name of the Doctor

Favorite companion introduction episode - Smith and Jones
Least favorite companion introduction episode - Bells of Saint John

Favorite Doctor introduction episode - Rose
Least favorite Doctor introduction episode - Deep Breath

Favorite experimental (breaking the formula) episode - Heaven Sent
Least favorite experimental episode - hard to say. Listen? Not a fan.

Favorite classic monsters are back episode - Dalek
Least favorite classic monsters are back episode - Sontaran Strategem / Poison Sky

do for yourself

>>85601059
I'd shoot my respect all over her face.

>>85601178
Fuck off RTDfag

>>85601209
rtdfags doesnt exist anon

>>85601224
Granted they only make up 25% of /who/ but they DO exist

>build threat during multiple episodes
>it get resolved in ten minutes of the last episode
Is this going to be a common trend?

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When did Lawrence Miles become so based? This and his earlier commentary on how Whittaker will be blamed for Chibnall's fuckups is absolutely on point.

#BRINGBACKMOFFAT
#CHIBNALLOUT

>>85601209
do you think it's fair at all to treat people with other opinions like that

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>>85601279
Yes

>>85601178
>Favourite finale
The Doctor Falls
>Least favourite finale
Hell Bent

>Favorite companion introduction episode
Unironically The Pilot
>Least favorite companion introduction episode
Voyage of the Damned

>Favorite Doctor introduction episode
Deep Breath
>Least favorite Doctor introduction episode
The Christmas Invasion

>Favorite experimental (breaking the formula) episode
A tie between Sleep No More, Heaven Sent, and Flatline
>Least favorite experimental episode
The Long Game, A Town Called Mercy (if the blockbuster episodes could be considered experimental)

>Favorite classic monsters are back episode
Dalek
>Least favorite classic monsters are back episode
Asylum of the Daleks

>>85601178
Favourite finale: The Pandorica Opens / The Big Bang
Least favourite: Journey's End

Favourite companion introduction: The Eleventh Hour
Least favourite: Rose

Favourite Doctor introduction: The Eleventh Hour
Least favourite: The Twin Dilemma (or if NuWho only, The Christmas Invasion)

Favourite experimental episode: Amy's Choice
Least favourite: Sleep No More

Favourite classic monster episode: World Enough and Time
Least favourite: The Sontaran Stratagem / The Poison Sky

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Scaroth reporting in.

>>85601059
I'd respect her in the arse

>>85601178
Favourite finale - Either The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang or World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
Least favourite finale - The End of Time

Favourite companion introduction episode - The Eleventh Hour
Least favourite companion introduction episode - Rose

Favourite Doctor introduction episode - The Eleventh Hour
Least favourite Doctor introduction episode - The Christmas Invasion

Favourite experimental episode - Heaven Sent with Listen close behind
Least favourite experimental episode - Sleep no More

Favourite classic monsters are back episode - World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
Least favourite classic monsters are back episode - Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks

is it worth watching SJA if ive never watched classic who?

>>85600999
Yeah it's a great thing they're doing. Hope it turns out well

>>85600985
I assure you I was not trying to subtly make fun of you or anything, I apologise if I came off that way. Does that sound like a weasel word-y apology, "I apologise if"? That's not what I mean. If I've unintentionally been a dick to you, I really am sorry dude.

Ultimately I just disagree with your statement about presenting Claudia's content to this forum constitutes bullying because a certain subset of the forum (maybe the majority, although I'd hesitate before just assuming that, not saying you're assuming that though) dislikes her. We can discuss that if you want, I get the feeling both of us are probably pretty firm in our view that it either is or isn't bullying, but if you'd like to chew into why, I'm game, as long as it's clear I'm not trying to be hostile or anything to you mate. Again, I'm sorry if I come across that way, it might be a cultural disconnect thing. I like to laugh and bantz around but I'm profoundly uninterested in, and t b h repelled by, hurting people's feelings.

>>85601048
I'm not a huge fan of Smith's era, although I'm a massive fan of Clara's, but I don't see why anyone wouldn't treat your opinion with respect.

>>85601178
Favourite finale - Hell Bent
Least favourite finale - Wedding of River Song

Fav companion intro - Rose (we're just doing NewWho yeah?)
Least fav companion intro - The Runaway Bride if that counts

Favourite Doctor introduction episode - If NewWho only, then Rose
Least fav - The Christmas Invasion

Favourite experimental episode - Heaven Sent
Least favourite - depends what you call experimental

Favourite classic monsters are back episode - ahgr hard to choose between Dalek and the S10 finale
Least favourite - The Hungry Earth / Cold Blood

>>85601592
Sure, it was primarily made for kids who wouldn't have been around when Sarah was on TV as a lass anyway

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>>85601680
>Favourite finale - Hell Bent

I liked both Hungry Earth and Cold Blood on first viewing back in 2010. I thought it was good base under siege with politics involved. It was more of a character piece with people acting out of fear and thus being dumb.
I was kind of shocked when I got back into internets and people were all like it's terrible.

>>85601779
Do you like it as much as you did back in 2010? Fuck the critical/fan consensus, your take on an ep is your take

>>85601779
On the internet everything is either brilliant or irredeemable shit.

>>85601818
Part two falls off a bit and I find direction a bit... weird sometimes but I still like part 1 alot and I love the moment of realisation when Doctor is like 'what have you done fools'
So I'm still positive about it as a whole, but part 2 is more 'ehhh' than before.

do you think the female doctor will get guys being creepy on her.

I MEAN on the show, the fanbase can be taken for granted.

>>85601910
Maybe here and there. Although I can't remember the last time a side character was creepy towards one of the female companions.

>>85601910
Maybe.

>>85601906
Have you seen the ep it's kinda based off, Doctor Who and the Silurians? Interesting to view em together.
The Welsh folks in the 2 parter worked better for me than the Silurians.

>>85601929
>>85601936
I was thinking about Peri and how nearly every story had a guy wanting to fug her, it was more to do with lazy writing desu

>>85601910
i hope not

will we get a good spinoff in the chibnall era?

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Sine we've already had posts about Jack Miles and Eve Myles, I gotta remind you LAWRENCE A BEST MILES

>>85602052
>Class 2: Class Harder

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There was a missed opportunity, I feel.

Ian Levine has deleted his tweets.

>>85602206
All of them or just the 13-related ones?

>>85601048
>Please treat my opinion with respect.
You know where you are right, niggerfaggot?

>>85602206
he's replaced them with info about his big 500-person jewish family reunion. the BIGGEST EVER jewish family reunion in the united kingdom. big congrats to the kukla family and levine himself, who appears in the centre of the family picture as its "organiser"

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>>85602441
>it's an "anon tries to intimidate people with how much of an edgy 4channer he is by spluttering the rudest words he can think of" episode

>>85602257
The 13 ones.

>>85602441
/who/ is not 4chan

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>>85602554

>>85602441
Cringe

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How can Moffat ruin 13 if he wrote Missy who is arguably the best master since Delgado?

>>85599646
>How is that possible that she's 'indian english' but has an italian cousin?
>Italian chick has an italian mum and an english dad
>Indian chick has an indian mum and an english dad
>Dads are brothers or cousins
Christ, how is this complicated?
Is this why people keep asking why my family reunions are so fucking multicultural?

>>85602824
fuck off boardie

>>85599517
>>85599646
>>85602854
What does this have to do with Doctor Who?

>>85602824
>How can Moffat ruin 13
He can't first and foremost because he won't be writing her, so such a thing is physically impossible.

>>85602824
you mean 14

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@Edge

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>>85603028
>"IT'S THE PROUDEST MOMENT OF MY CAREER!"

>>85603023
>>85602966
>>85602873
You know what I mean you pedant retards

>>85603127
know we literally dont.

Chibnall didnt write missy, moff did.

moff isnt writing 13, chib is.

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>>85603142

>>85603127
I'm afraid we really have no clue.

>>85602824
>Missy who is arguably the best master since Delgado?
Good character but definitely not a good master, wouldn't even consider her a master

>>85603127
but I thought Capaldi was the 13th doctor

>>85603142
Yes you do cause it isn't that hard to understand fucking idiot

Since when was /who/ this retarded?

>>85603256
Sigh

>>85603270
When you started posting in this thread.

>>85603270

But your point is that 13 cant be bad because missy was good. but missy being good has NOTHING to do with it

>>85603256
>It's a good x, but not a good y x
I thought only /v/ did these mental gymnastics.

>>85603288
Fact of life mate

>>85603360
I can't imagine approaching the character like that, what an awful shame.

>>85603308
So always? Since I made the fucking thread dipshit

>>85603315
I'm saying if 13 was written by Moffat she can't be bad since Missy was good. Jesus fucking Christ it's not that hard to understand

Prime Minister Simm > Gomez

>>85603400
>Since I made the fucking thread dipshit
>implying

I was just rewatching Deep Breath
The Doctor has a line where he compares the android to a broom that has had the handle and the brush replaced multiple times - hence no longer the same broom. He then asks him if he even remembers where he got his face and gives him a reflective plate to look into, the camera showing the doctor seeing his own reflection.
While this is obviously touching on the fact that Capaldi has been on the show before, I'd be interested in seeing this idea of "changed different aspects so many times, no longer the original anymore" brought up when 12 and 1 meet.
That'd be neat.

>>85603400
>if 13 was written by Moffat
You mean in the hypothetical sense?

Then you should have made that clear to begin with. "How can Moffat ruin 13" was not sufficient. It sounded like you'd forgotten Moffat was leaving.

>>85603468
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus
It's a very interesting idea. Definitely a parallel between the Doctor and the half-face man

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pics plox

>>85603351
>I love meat loaf
>Ok then you'll eat meat loaf for dessert
>No, meat isn't a dessert
>So you hate meat loaf now
>No, meat loaf is great, it just isn't a bloody dessert
It baffles me how such a simple concept gets lost in the empty heads of such daft cunts

>>85603588
>food analogies

>>85603588
>food analogy
>a real shit food analogy at that
It's like I'm really in /v/

Here's your statement in a better thought out food analogy:
>I like Coke, it's a good drink, but not a good softdrink.

>>85603588
>shitty analogy

>>85603614
>>85603698
>>85603717

>I love my new audi
>Ok then you should marry it
>No, my new audi isn't a person
>So you don't like your new audi
>No, my new audi is great, it just isn't a bloody person you illiterate fuck
There, fucking blow me ya cunts

>>85603769
>This audi si shit
>it's not a good audi but is a good car

>>85603769
>still using a shitty analogy

Again, here's your statement in a car analogy:
>I love Ferrari, it's a good car company, but definitely not a good sports car company

>>85603769
so are you saying women aren't people?
woooow

Analogies are for people who can't just explain things properly.

So essentially people on here are saying that the 13th Doctor is going be like Gwen from Torchwood. Works for me ... ;-D

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You have been visited by Paul JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP Cornell. You don't need to post anything, he will bless you with creative powers and the Shagger ability.

>>85604140
how u want ur doctor senpai

>>85604107
A bitch who cheated on her boyfriend, confessed to see how he reacts, drugged him to forget and never told him again and went on to marry him?

>>85604215
>le if a woman makes a slight, forgivable mistake even just once, shes le evil drugging slut meme
get in the real world

>>85604215

Sounds awesome as fuck. So it's official then.The golden age of Doctor Who starts now ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl4Oms4qcoE

>>85604275
To be fair, that seems like quite a few significantly large "mistakes"

>>85604336
>lets participate in the hourly hating women circlejerk for something they barely even did!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr757sFsIiI

Pertwee is quite honestly one of the best Doctors and is indisputably the comfiest. His UNIT era is GOAT.

>>85598892
That's that half indian BPD femanist bitch, would hate fuck her though.

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>>85601288
>we had shitty marginal antirayciss art in the 70's so BBC going full WE WUZ is OK
What a faggot

at least moff made it cannon that the doctor regenerates to previous incarnations at some point in his life, maybe Matt can come back since he regrets leaving so much

>>85601559
Ditto from this anon

>>85604536
I'd love to see him reprise the Curator role in the 100th as a neat nod to the past of the show and the 50th.

>>85604536
>since he regrets leaving so much
damn, his career must be really bad

>>85604568
That would be beyond GOAT but if Tennant's still alive they'll end up getting him (more "iconic")

>>85604573
He's got the crown, which Her majesty herself watches so he's probably okay, just misses what could have been. He easily could have lasted as long as Tom Baker did without much resistance from the beeb

>>85601771
Neo's a massive fan of Clara, so it's a done deal that Hell Bent is his favorite finale.

>>85604656
>>85604656
>>85604656

migrate

>>85602052
Torchwood S5 maybe?