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What do you think of the Castlevanis animated series on (((Netflix)))? I think it was pretty damn good but too short.
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>>84751025
>>>/v/
>>>/vr/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vp/
>>>/co/
Get the FUCK off my board.
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>>84751127
What the hell does this series have to do with Pokémon?
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>>84751025
I liked it a lot, but there are like three people on /tv/ who have a hate boner for it and spam every thread with complaints, usually saying "the show sucks because of X" where X is something that was in the games, but they don't know that or care. You can't half about it here without autists turning the thread into a fight over historical accuracy (lmao) and Christianity.
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>>84751651
isn't that how /tv/ feels about everything?
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>>84751651
die shill, you don't belong in this world

it's less than mediocre at it's best, stop trying to play this shit up like it's something special, because it isn't
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Neckbeard atheists/redditors shouting fuck yeah and cheering every time a priest dies almost put me off from watching this. It's good, not bad the voice acting felt kind of emotionless. Animation is shit when it's not the fight sequences. Dracula is the best character, Trevor is just that kid from high school who says he doesn't give a fuck. It's nice he developed from that. Everything else is eh
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I just watched the first episode and it's really bland. Does it get any better or do I go watch Vampire Hunter D again?
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>>84753042
>>84751651
OP here. I'll admit the over played "corrupt church" thing got over played. I wasn't sure how much they were going to tip the fedora but they did eventually establish that the Bishop and his followers were out for power and were just invoking God to get it. Plus the demon acknowledged the existence of God and the Priest made holy water.

So long as they don't go into 27 genders next season and stay true to the lore of Cas III it should be good.
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>>84753151
>go watch Vampire Hunter D again
is the correct choice, as of now castlevania literally goes nowhere, is completely and utterly sub-par in comparison

hellsing is also more worthy of your investment, i'm just thankful as fuck netflix got nothing from me outside of wasted time in exchange for wading through four episodes of pretty shit material
>inb4 netflix shill tells me i'm just a hater
yes i am, because i like castlevania and this is pretty much a disservice to the franchise, not unlike lords of shadow but i suppose it could be worse konami could still throw it to the pachislot wolves
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>>84753151
Literally the whole season is just a test run and a set up for the actual raid on the castle.

Trevor goes to town being controlled by a corrupt Bishop who scape goating this other religion called The Seekers. Trevor ends up fighting some millitant priests along with some of Draculs Demon and finds Alicards hidden tomb.
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I thought it was a blast, but yeah, too short. I want more Dracula mayhem. Also, I was really surprised by how gory it was.
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I just watched it and it was ok. I don't get the absurd amount of hype surrounding it, there's absolutely nothing stand-out about the entire thing, besides the IP.
The plot is solid, the dialogue is alright, nothing too amazing, but about as good as the usual anime dialogue gets, really.
After the bar fight I was hoping that future fight scenes would also be grounded, but it quickly turns into typical anime fuckery with weightless enemies, flying swords and retarded decision-making.
A solid 6.5, 7 if you're partial to Castlevania.
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This Christianity vs science stuff is so stupid.
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>>84753506
>>84753369
So it's just like a prologue?? What the
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>No castlevania music in at all
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
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>>84751127
Dude it's a Netflix show, nothing it's more /tv/ this days.
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Really cool art style
Great character designs
Voice acting was hit and miss
Animation was sometimes janky sometimes phenomenal
Dialogue was mostly standard fare with some more interesting parts and some retarded parts
Overall inconsistent but enjoyable

I will echo a common vein of complaint and say that the anti-Christianity stuff was embarrassingly bad. There is a good way to write a critique of organised religion but this was so one-dimensional and cartoonish.
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>>84751025
It was fucking terrible. People are only liking it because it's been so long since we've had anything that even resembled the old Castlevania lore since the reboot, and people are thirsty as hell
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>>84751025
I only saw its first episodes the other night and was pleasantly surprised by it. I thought it was impressive. Had some humourous moments, too.
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>>84753741
>Great character designs
Really? Which ones? I found everything to be pretty standard, bordering on generic. Especially the demons.
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>>84753626
basically, there's enough padding to fill a mattress and the 4 episode set coupled with the way it ends makes it obvious they were testing the waters to see if it was worth releasing the rest because they're probably finished and ready to go anyway

apparently it was, which surprised the shit out of me desu, but then the series itself was driven into the ground by konami/mercurysteam so fans would be desperate for more material, typical of any fanbase really
>>84753719
they weren't, normalfaggots wouldn't have noticed anyway and it probably would have been trouble with licensing tracks maybe
>mfw some dumb faggot in one of these generals told me use of any of the game music would have overshadowed everything in a show about the very material the music was tailor made for
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I gotta say i find it funny how /a/ cries that castlevania talk should go in /co/ and /co/ bitches that it should be talked on /tv/ and some people here want me to go into /a/ to talk about it.

Everyone hates it but not because it was bad, but because of reasons.
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>>84753334
I do hope the next season just has them in the castle the entire time. Maybe 1-2 episodes of them getting there/getting supplies to avoid any of that sjw fuckery
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I don't know how to feel about it. I think I am going to wait until I finish rewatching it in Japanese first before I post a review on YouTube

But some things I liked: the character design, the atmosphere, the fight scenes and much of the plot itself.

What I didn't like: the anti-Church vibe just felt really heavy handed. From what I remember from the original games, the church never really figured that prominently as a plot element beyond providing some weapons to fight the monsters. This series treads a little too close to the "the church hates science" meme, which is kinda weird in a franchise where many of the old world fears of the supernatural are indeed treated as true within the context of its story. I could understand if Dracula's wife was interested in all matters of knowledge, physical science and occult science, and was more like Merlin in Disney's sword in the stone but it just felt awkward. I actually thought the bishop too might have been an interesting character as it seemed like his desire to purge the Church of corruption which he feels has brought the scourge while believing he's the only one who could do it might have been a compelling subplot.

The reason I wanted to watch it in Japanese next was cause some of the delivery felt rather stilted and awkward, even if the script itself was not so bad.

It also feels like it ends right when the actual plot gets moving and that's another thing, I feel the pacing is a bit too slow
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>>84753615
It matches up with history. I'm a proud Catholic and I know the Church went through some...lets call them rough patches. Back then religion and politics were the same... and the church had more power then kings.

I think the writers were over reading Draculas infamous quib about religion in SotN and made him and his wife stereotypical fedora tippers.

Either that or the writers have a poor understanding of religion.
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>>84753841
>Using music would overshadow anything because its literallies from the source
I tried to think something to say about that, but the retardation of it just killed alot of me braincells.
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As an irreligious person, even I have to agree with some other lads ITT, that they laid the corruption of the church on a wee bit thick.
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anti-christianity, anti-western and anti-white lefturd propaganda. why can't they put mudslimes as the bad guys for once ??
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>>84753994
>I tried to think something to say about that, but the retardation of it just killed alot of me braincells.
this is a net win for you then, if that statement is anything to go by, you don't have many to spare
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>>84754009
Because that's not what the source materials is about, but I would very much like to see more media taking place in the past, present and future, that similarly portrays islam as something that is less than decent, which it obviously is.
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>>84754001
It just wasn't that interesting in a show about fighting monsters.
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>>84751025
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS /tv/?
why are so many people giving this praise it's FUCKING RIDICULOUS
>shitty soundtrack
>animation is subpar at BEST
>asshole main character decides to start giving a fuck for no reason at all
>voice acting all over the place
>dialogue sounds like it was written in Japanese and then fed through google translate
>super comfy and cozy then makes a tonal shift into baby eviscerating MADNESS
>4 episodes
>take a drink every time the floor falls out from under the main characters you'll be dead by the end
>all good guys literally gods of combat so no stakes

Some of the fight scenes look really good but this shit is just meme material.
>pee in a bucket
>leave my testis alone

wtf /tv/ why would any of you recommend this shit to me?

[spoilers] can't wait for season 2 desu [/spoilers]
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>>84751025
It was pretty mediocre. The pacing was slow, the script was weak, bland visuals, and really weak sound design. Everything sounded so flat, especially a lot of the dialogue. Overall a 2.5/4. I never once felt excited to continue after each episode.
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>>84754009
That would be raciest
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>castlevania gets a better anime adaptation than berserk
what a joke
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>>84754009
Read Berserk
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>>84753988
The Church was the biggest patron of the sciences around. In the 1400s practically every scientist would've been a priest or monk.

That's not even touching on the fact that the official line of the Catholic Church was and still is that witches don't exist. You were more likely to get executed for accusing someone of being a witch.

If you have to reverse the historical situation in order for your story to have the appropriate conflict then maybe don't use that conflict at all.
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>>84753801
When you are completely engulfed in the world of anime or anime looking designs, the word generic losses all meaning.
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>>84754001
>>84754009
Made no sense how those peasants killed that one knife wielding PRIEST, when DEMONS are flying around just because some random guy running around killing all the PRIESTS said he was evil. Other than that i think they atleast deserve a one bonus point for acknowledging that not all the priests were evil and they had magic powers to turn water into jesus-water-TM.
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>>84754116
>Castlevania show is shit tier
>still better than Berserk
realizing this makes me want to kill myself.
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>>84754116
Oh, my deity of choice, THIS.
I would rather have had the people responsible for this four episode adaptation adapt Berserk beyond the Golden Age Arc.
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>>84754114
The sound design was the most disappointing part desu
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>>84754178
Castlevania has the music advantage.

You can't make an anime with tunes as good, cause the videogames had to work with completely different sound standars, where it's a lot more competitive.
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>>84751025
I expected a better animation quality for just 4 episodes of 20minutes
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>>84754275
I had the same experince with Glow, I expected more production quality, they are really discount HBO in terms of production.
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>>84754235
>can't make an anime with tunes as good as the game
>could have just taken the video game music and put it in the show
>could have just put any effort into the music instead of running what sound like garage band demo tracks over every fight scene
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>>84754129
already have, hundreds of times over by now
>tfw they finally get off the goddamned boat, but are doomed to shitty animated adaptations for all eternity
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>>84754166
Wasn't the Church burning Dracula's wife common knowledge at this point? Also, earlier, Trevor pointed out that the priest had a thief's knife, and asked for a priest legitimately with emphasis on legitimately ordained to make holy water. So the implication was that the priests under the bishop were merely brigands in the cloth of the church under the bishops payroll, but I do agree that showing the new priests in town being more dickish to the townsfolk or showing the speakers being more charitable would have been helpful in making sense why the mob turned on them
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It's decent so far. First episode was uhhh. Second and third was story and little action which was nicely done. The voice acting is pretty good. Wayy too short.
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>>84754275
Wasnt there supposed to be 8 more episodes coming soon? Or something like that.
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>>84751025
The show is pretty fucking awful but FUCK those first fifteen minutes had me licking the screen I thought I was in for some vampire kino.
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>>84754320
There probably would've been obnoxious legal complications with using the games' original soundtracks, unfortunately. I've read that reason.being given for other anime adaptations of videogame IPs not using the source material's music. People need to consider things like that more often in any case 'cause the legalities of anything like this are usually nightmarish.
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>look up a pic for the other Castlevania 3 character Grant
>this shit comes up
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Not a fan of how they changed Trevor to appeal to normies who are into the 'funny banter', a lot of lines came out cringy from that character. Dialogue was garbage for the most part and it didn't help with most of the primary VA's not even trying.
Using the SotN story was for the best. Animation was more in tune with what you see in the west. It was average, nothing stood out bar a few sequences in the last fight.
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>>84751025
>be me
>browsing /tv/ on a friday night
>everyone says Castlevania is near perfection
>watch all four episodes
>it's shit
>come back to /tv/
>everyone says it's shit
why
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So do you guys think that if they get around to finishing that new Vampire Hunter D series that it will be better or worse than this series. Keep in mind Castlevania probably ripped off VHD
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>>84751025
>No Castlevania music
NOPE
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Is 71 years too old to do Drac's voice again for a Jap dub?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oma-VUECmc
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>>84754131
Well the one priest who was at the exucution alluded to being a chemist but stopped himself after the Bishop gave a look like "your next".

I really hoping this was going to be agenda free. If there was an agenda it was really inconvenient because they used fucking magic and holy water to fight demons.
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>>84754534
Proceeding with caution. Hope working with a Western production company doesn't mean filthy gaijins influencing the direction of the show, art, dialogue in any way.
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>>84753988
>Either that or the writers have a poor understanding of religion.

This show is literally directed by one Warren Ellis, so a massive amount of fedorafaggotry and historical inaccuracy should be expected.
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>>84754596
Unless he has some health issue, absolutely not. Some icon characters such as Mobile Suit Gundam's Casval Rem Deikun have had the same Japanese voice actor for nearly forty years now along with many other recurring characters from the franchise's original Universal Century timeline.

Image not entirely unrelated.
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>>84754752
>castlevania
>historical accuracy
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>>84754649
One thing in the VHD Lord's favor is that the vampires and humans made use of both technology and magic, it's more scifi. I think the guys in charge of Castlevania just thought "medieval times? Well let's just go with the church killing scientists as witches, that feels medieval right?" despite the fact that there's a difference between the 1400's and the 900's as far as the Church's attitude towards science goes
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>>84751025
I was disappointed that it was 4 eps but it's lean and mean. excited for more
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>>84754837
ah yes the 1400s by this point the church was fully committed to science
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>>84754752
>make a show based on series know for using Boomerang Crosses, Rosary Beads, And Holly Watter to fight evil.
>get a fedora neck beard to direct it.

Did Konkani hire Netflix to put the final knife in the fan base?
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>>84754131
or you are nitpicking a cartoon based on a fucking videogame for historical accuracy

you know what to do
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>>84754838
I imagine that the four episodes are actually the pilot that they made with the a small budget alotted to them by Netflix as kind of a proof of concept before the bulk of the show was greenlit (which it has been and 8 more episodes premier next january). I'm glad they got the church corruption stuff out of the way early on(which was probably only included so that the executives could have a readable script) so we can move onto pure castlekino.
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>>84754394
>Implications that priests under bishow were merely brigands
I mean still, even if they were """"priests""" it just seemed like an overkill for have the people turn on them suddenly, considering that its not modern ages but 15 century and if there are demons flying around there probably is god/hell too and murdering gods priests probably isnt the best idea. Even if they accidentally set all hell loose woops hehe.

But it was just 4 episodes so i cant really expect some super 2deep4u talks and shit.
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>>84754971
Calm down, he wrote it and the last episode has Trevor using holy water made by an actual priest as opposed to the despotic thugs that actually run the church to fight off demons.
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>>84754943
By the 1400's many of the patrons of the sciences and medicine were members of the Church and Galileo's trial had nothing to do with hatred of science even if other members of the church could be skeptical towards certain disciplines that bordered on magic or skeptical towards knowledge coming from foreign non Christian countries, Galileo's trial had more to do with his findings and interpretations contradicting the Aristotelian canons upheld by the Church, it was more about the particular theories he had contradicting established science
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>>84753739
Do you even English? Fuck off back to /co/, /v/.
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>>84754993
This!
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>>84754116
Castlevania show has nothing on the original Berserk adaption.
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>>84755175
Im pretty sure he meant the most recent abomination tbqh.
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>>84755108
>church totally ok with science
>except when it contradicted what they thought was true
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>>84754802
The Crusades still happened in the games, my Fish-posting friend. The Church also wasn't a bunch of comically evil twats.
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>>84755175
I'm not them, but would imagine they were referring to the animated abomination that is the twenty-sixteen anime television series and/or the anime film trilogy. Most people seem to agree that the original nineties anime series of Berserk is at least acceptable, if not on its own merits, than in comparison to its later animated incarnations.
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>>84754166
Those guys weren't real priests.
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>>84755318
noh tru preeeessst fellatio
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Kind of sucked the only non-generic demon we got was the Cyclops.
Really wanted to see Medusa heads and Skeletons terrorizing folks
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>>84753151
watch this
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>>84755521
Seems cool. Thanks man.
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>>84755302
the church didn't fight vampires either. The fedora tipping is obnoxious, but muh historical accuracy isn't a real argument against it when all the other historical inaccuracies are fine because they don't bother you
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Sucks how this happened in 1844 for the Castlevania world
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>>84755299
Yes, like is the case today when societies accept certain things as indisputable fact and will selectively pick and choose what scientific theories or findings they want to accept based on what endorses the current zeitgeist or power structure. Like how liberals glorify science and progress, except when it contradicts their social views and they try to explain it away in any manner no matter how convoluted.

In the 1400's, the canonical source of cosmology in the West was Aristotle as interpreted by St. Thomas Aquinas. The canonical sources of medicine were Galen as well as Ibn Sina's Canon of Medicine and one of the most sure-fire ways to get the equivalent of a medical degree in those days was to join the priesthood since it was typically in the monasteries that much of the knowledge of ancient Greece, ancient Rome and the Arabic works was most often preserved. The church was not burning any and everyone in possession of a chemistry set. And Galileo was put to trial because the majority of scientists and astronomers in those days were in agreement with the Aristotelian view.
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>>84755601
>the church didn't fight vampires either.

Depends on whether or not you consider a Muslim invasion are force to be "vampiric" in nature.
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>>84755874
these mental gymnastics
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>>84755874
What about the Spanish Inquisition?
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>>84753741
>I will echo a common vein of complaint and say that the anti-Christianity stuff was embarrassingly bad. There is a good way to write a critique of organised religion but this was so one-dimensional and cartoonish.
It isn't criticizing religion. It's criticizing abuse of power and hypocrisy.
>>>/co/93721597
>>>/co/93722415
>>>/co/93722459
>>>/co/93722560
>>>/co/93728940
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>>84756118
>Historical facts are mental gymnastics
>Disagreeing with someone's scientific theories cause they contradict everything every scientist and scholar trained in the natural sciences and philosophy has accepted for nearly two thousand yearseans you are available St science itself

Holy strawman batman

>>84756149
The Spanish Inquisition was about rooting out heretics following the reconquest of Spain and the nominal conversion of Muslims and Jews whose actual faith was questionable.
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>>84753927
>the church never really figured that prominently as a plot element beyond providing some weapons to fight the monsters
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>>84756346
*are against science itself
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>>84756346
>let me uh...just bust out my handy book of fallacies here uh...uh...ad hom-... uh...STRAWMAN
>not even a strawman
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I liked it, some parts were pretty cringey. Wish there were more of Dracula
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Are there any mermen, medusa heads or peeping eyes on this show
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>>84756346
>holy strawman
>didn't actually use it correctly
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Retard, the Shitposter? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Retard was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create dubs… He had such a knowledge of the shitposting that he could even keep the ones he cared about from getting butthurt. The Fallacy Side of the Force is a pathway to many arguments some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was getting exposed with his own logical fallacies, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in a shitpost. Ironic. He could save others from fallacies, but not himself.
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>>84756613
no
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>>84756613
Not yet, but I'd be surprised if they didn't show up later
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>>84756533
>Doesn't know what a strawman is
>Knows fuck all about history
>"Yeah, the church hated science, except when they gave money to build schools for its study and when the monks and priests made important strides in the field due to having a more privileged education than most"
>They put one Fedora tipping ass hat on trial for being a faggot with his opinions that even many scientists like Tycho Brahe of the time thought his heliocentric model was ridiculous and scientifically bullshit
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>>84756700
i keked
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>>84756776
tell me what a strawman is without googling it anon
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>>84756801
is that like a scarecrow
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>>84756700
>Doesn't know what a strawman is
>Actually bothered to type up this embarrassing pile of shit

Just kill yourself already retard
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>>84753042
>Neckbeard atheists/redditors shouting fuck yeah and cheering every time a priest dies

Who are you watching this with?
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>>84756845
does anyone here know what a strawman is? because the original poster definitely wasn't using it correctly
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>>84756845
You literally respoded to a two word post calling it a strawman because you're a knuckledragging wunderkind that is only spared from natural elimination because of this sick jewified society propagating retards like you as champions. That is not a strawman and will never be a strawman. Just because you saw someone use the word strawman once doesn't give you the right to further bastardize the english language by using words incorrectly.

Go run a freeway, you fucking mongrel.
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Do they at least use the sub weapons or roast beefs
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>>84756880

He hears them in his head when he watches any fun shows. It's sad really.
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>>84756801
Your strawman was saying that because the church disagreed with Galileo that that means they were somehow against science itself, which is trivializing the position of the church at the time and attacking a position they never even held by assuming that an argument against Galileo's theories are an argument against the study and advancement of science, something the church was never against regardless of its position on Galileo's particular findings. If I say "we shouldn't have completely closed borders" and your response is "what? you're saying we should let every spic across and just have no borders at all? We should keep America's unique identity as a nation" you're attacking an argument which was never made by assuming that an argument against closed completely closed borders is an argument for no borders.
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>>84756801
It's when you try to defeat someone's argument by misrepresenting their premises and conclusion to the point where your representation of the argument is an entirely different argument from the real one, then you pick apart the argument you invented and claim that as a victory over the real argument. The name comes from attacking a fake "straw man" instead of your real opponent.
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>>84757217
>Your strawman was saying that because the church disagreed with Galileo that that means they were somehow against science itself,
That's not a straw man argument. That's a non sequitur.

You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
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>>84757217
nice job responding to the wrong post faggot
>looks at post you meant to respond to
>still not a strawman
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>>84757052
>it's a retard posts unoriginal copy pasta and makes himself look like an underage faggot who can't form a single coherent thought of his own episode

Just put the keyboard down, son
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>>84757281
>Doesn't know anything about the history of western civilization
>Doesn't know what a strawman is
>Doesn't know what non sequitur is
>Flunked both logic and history
>All he can do now is shit post on /tv/
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I wish they would play the best theme in season 2.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fA9FhBwRtoc
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It felt like a 2 hour pilot (and given it may have been a repurposed thing from the Project 51 attempt, it makes sense.

What I liked:
>Changes in the lore to make it more consistent with SotN and everything post-SotN, including character designs, motivations, and other stuff
>Fleshing out of the world outside of Dracula's castle, which few of the games pre-LoS reboot ever explored
>Making Dracula a man of science and "misunderstood", while kind of weird at first given his origins in Lament of Innocence (not sure if they are counting that as canon) was something interesting
>Giving Dracula a slightly tragic backstory helps build up his character and I hope they actually explore this side of him, especially in relation to Trevor Belmont and the other character's disdain with the Church
>Animation was fucking beautiful

Cons:
>Lack of monster variety
>Lack of licensed music
>Too fucking short and not enough Dracula either
>Pacing felt weird, like you couldn't watch it one episode at a time, you had to do it all in one sitting.
>Possibly gonna have to wait 9 months to a year for the next season, too fucking long, especially with only 4 episodes and no new video game over the horizon to tide me over
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>>84754482
That was when the Death Note character artist decided to do character design for that one spin-off Castlevania fighting game on the Wii

We don't like to talk about it much.
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>That tease in the beginning of Dracula going around the world, traveling as a normal human being while allowing Lisa unlimited access to his sciences while he was away
>No spin-off series of Dracula touring the world in the guise of a man, to try and learn from men and gain some form of humanity

I feel like that'd be the ultimate comfy.
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>>84757495
I'm not him. And that is a non sequitur. Anon tried to draw a conclusion that didn't follow (non sequitur) from the premise.
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>>84758732
Anon didn't try to draw shit. No where did Galileo anon say the church hated science.
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>>84751025
It was incredibly cringey due to swearing whenever possible and the shot accents
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>>84755521
SO TONIGHT I'LL SING
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>>84758918
I'm not saying he did. I pointed out that such a characterization was of a non sequitur, not a straw man. The accusing anon used the wrong fallacy in making his accusation.
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>>84754988
Yes because everyone needs to just eat the Protestant lies and never question them.

You realize this keeps poping up in fiction because retards actually believe bullshit like the Inquisition killed/tortured millions and scientists were burned at the stake for thinking.
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Instead of arguing about Christianity on /tv/, let's talk about this old production blog: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/09/first-time-warren-ellis-wrote-castlevania-animation-ten-years-ago/

Pretty interesting that the goat fucking scene was basically written 10 years ago and remained unchanged all the way through several incarnations of the project until it finally landed on Netflix. Also interesting that Alucard was supposed to be naked originally. The British accent thing is even addressed.
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>>84754091
>animation subpar at best
stopped reading there, the animation was one of the best parts
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>>84759510
retards are always going to be retards friend

and more people than not enjoying this CARTOON will be such
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>>84754224
Yeah I agree with you there. The rest of the series needs to be animated by a studio who knows what the fuck they are doing.
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>>84760216
the animation looked good in 2.5 fight scenes but but it typically looks pretty bad the rest of the time (i.e. most of the show)
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>>84753741
>cartoonish.
>is a cartoon
what did he mean by this
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>>84760216
The alucard fight and cyclops fight the animation was superb. Everything else was typical direct to video.
The writing is also shit.
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They should've gone all in. That way the show would have created more buzz and maybe had a chance to be as successful as the other netflix originals.
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>>84751025
Pretty good, and too short, though desu I'd rather that shit be short and good quality then huge ass seasons with diminished qual-

>S2 will be 8 episodes

Shit..
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>>84761430
Barbra Streisand looked pretty good when she was younger.
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>>84751025
It was ok.
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>>84753927
>the church never really figured that prominently as a plot element beyond providing some weapons to fight the monsters

>Lisa getting torched was literally one of the major plot points of Symphony

>Symphony is literally the sequel to C3 (the game this show is clearly based on) from the persepctive of Alucard


Get out
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>>84753988
your religions fucking shit all catholics should die for being such fags
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I can't get over how easily Lisa walks into Dracula's life and makes him fall in love with her. We never see their characteristics up to this point, besides little quips here and there, and when she dies to the Church, I couldn't feel anything for her or Dracula. It just made him seem like a total faggot. Is it even worth it to go past episode 1?
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>>84762050
well they said homosexuality's a sin but then we found out that it's a win
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>>84751025

I thought Castlevania was about vampires and shit, what's up with all the evil church stuff?
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>>84758345
>this
They could have at least thrown some zombies and skeletons in there. Here's hoping for some bone tossers in season 2
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It was good but the animation is actually very lacking for me. It's very framey.

The fight scenes could've been animated better with more dynamic.

The show is pretty with lots of effects and lights but when it comes down to animation itself it was run of the mill.
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>>84763344
Anime is fight scenes are still way head of what westerners can do.

Maybe they should hire some Japanese animators and storyboard artist.

I forgot to mention the camera/framing/composition is also not that great.
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>>84755521
Seconding this, Gankutsuou is really good
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>>84751025
>4 episodes

Basically a prologue, goddamn tease is what it was
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I enjoyed it a lot. Only real complaints were the fact that there were only 4 episodes, we have to wait another year for more, and the animations weren't great. I'll cut them some slack because the show was just announced like 4-5 months ago but I'm hoping for more next season.
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>>84754009
Because it's set in medieval Romania, based false flag christcuck poster
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5fps fights are a thing now
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>>84755521
>Not this

I dropped Count of Montecristo in ep 9
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>>84763527
The voice acting was atrocious.
>>
SYPHA PISS
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>Church kills your wife
>you hit some things off your desk
>warn everyone before you kill them

Giving Dracula characterization should have been the easiest part but Ellis fucked it up.
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>>84756700
>he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create dubs
>gets dubs
what the fuck
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>>84751025
good but too little monster hunting and too little things from the games like for example classic castlevania monsters

also the "church" is evil plot line is getting kinda boring and overdone at this point especially since it got in the way of monster hunting

still liked it overall a lot but they want have any excuses left next time once they are finally at drakulas castle. They better feature lots of coolf figths with iconic monsters and bosses
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>>84762886
I don't think I could handle skeletons, anon. I love them so much because they make xylophone noises and stupid bone puns.
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>Everyone complaining about muh anti-church when it was clearly just a few corrupt officials and some reasonable clergy were shown to either be shut down or useful in the end.
I mean the one dude made holy water, while the bishop who started all this shit couldn't get God's protection. I thought it was handled alright from a religious perspective.
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>>84751025
I thought it sucked major dick, but there were a few good cuts of animation. Direction, music and voice acting were all terrible.
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>>84753860
It's obviously a /co/ show and not a /a/ show.
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Pretty good but if they plan on covering other games it will take years.
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>>84753615
>Trevor tells a priest to bless the water to use it against the demons
>It actually works
>Fedora show
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>>84755302
OoE church was pretty evil if you ask me.
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>>84755521
I still dont get something.

Was the MC gay for the count or something?

He refused a trap but blushed constantly at the count.
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Will Galamoth, Shaft and Death appear?
Galamoth is stronger than Dracula.
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>>84754131
What the hell?

The church held us back years in medicine and science.

They burned alive a man for proving the earth wasnt flat for fucks sake

I dont hate religion but the church was and is an organization in pursue of power and money.

Its true than in most villages the wise men were part of the church but thtas because back then it was weird for the common folk to even know how to read, cities were completely different though.
Michael Angelo hated the church and was constantly throwing shit at them right under their noses in his works.

How dare you defend the old church?
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>>84767071
>Michael Angelo hated the church and was constantly throwing shit at them right under their noses in his works.

wow this is some bad understanding of art history. Michelangelo was occasional frustrated with the censorship imposed by one cleric, and took a minor swipe at him. Other that that, not only was he exceedingly pious, he was so guilt ridden in the later stages of his life his possible damnation left him bitterly depressed and anxious.
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>>84754009
The fact that people on this board don't bat an eye at this retarded comment... Jesus Christ.
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>>84751025
Anyone have a webm of that final fight?
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Pros
>voice acting miles better than your usual weebshit
>great animation
>gorgeous backgrounds
>can tell its a passion project by someone who actual enjoys caselvania

Cons
>disliked by religiousfags who think their religion is being threatened and complain about historical accuracy in a tv show that has vampires and mythical beasts in it
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>>84753369
Hellsing is horseshit, aimed at wannabe edgey teen shooters.
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>netflix castlevania
>good animation
people sure have shit standards
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why was Planetary so good but everything else Warren Ellis has done has been total shit?
Did we even need an expiation for Dracula wanting to destroy humans? HES FUCKING DRACULA
only watched the first episode. It was """okay""" but Im not inclined to watch the rest.

>I believe in science
and Dropped
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>>84758455
Well this trevor seems closer to the trevor of judgement than any other material, that appearance is not out of the question
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>>84765068
He's a grandiose motherfucker. Plus, he understands full well that not every Wallachian deserves to die.
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>>84770363
>Did we even need an expiation for Dracula wanting to destroy humans?
It's a canonical story element anon. He was an evil bastard beforehand, but it was killing his wife that started an endless vendetta.
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>Castlemania
>no wrestlers
What were they thinking?
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>>84758345
>Pacing felt weird, like you couldn't watch it one episode at a time, you had to do it all in one sitting.

This statement makes me think of something a friend of mine said about how Netflix usually makes their own content. He said they try to make episodes feel short so people do marathons more often, like to make you stay and watch more. I'm not saying it is the case here, but it may had some influence.
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It was pretty good, pacing was alright, but I kind of expected the whole crew to gather before they took a seasonal break. There was a surplus of gore and cursing that felt almost unnecessary considering the source material, but they worked it in pretty well by building a setting where it would feel acceptable. Overall, I got high hopes for this, it's up there with Viewtiful Joe and Devil May Cry as one of my favorite vidya-to-media adaptations.
It's too bad Konami hated video games, because they could probably get away with releasing a 3 remake or a Castlevania anthology collection if this drums up enough interest and buzz on Netflix. Beats the shit out of all the gambling machines they're putting out.
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>>84767745
Agreed. Folks complaining about the religious shit don't know shit about Castlevania or its lore. I was thoroughly impressed with how naturally they interweaved the story threads that connected Dracula's Curse and Symphony of the Night. Warren Ellis supposedly has little familiarity with the source material but it seems like everyone working around him does and he willingly takes their suggestions to produce a show for long-time fans and newcomers alike.
>The Cyclops protecting Sypha
>Alucard's red teleportation after-images
>Dracula's Castle appears to travel and change shape
>Trevor also wields a sword, like all the classic art portraying Belmonts with sword and whip
>Holy Water and Salt being used effectively when prepared by a good priest, proving that Christianity isn't inherently evil, only those who abuse and defile its teachings for personal gain. (God isn't on the side of the witchburners or the tithe collecting brutes) meaning the events of season 1 may reform the church for the better.
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Will we see more games adapted if it takes off, or will it get buried under stand-up specials and cartoons? I was shocked I couldn't find it under new releases but found a pro-Gawker documentary hard pushed instead.
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