/who/ - Doctor Who General

poo

I invented Doctor Who.

The new Doctor will clearly be a woman. It just seems like the perfect time to do it now.

>>84533200
Fuck off Sydney

Dr POO hahah

i am still going with doctor who's name being doctor who because it would be amusing

>>84533296
This joke is getting worse and worse every time someone says it.

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>it's a Rachel isn't my wife episode

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>>84533296
woah nice one

>>84533205
>Perfect time
>When the ratings are at the lowest
You gotta time that shit for when the show hits its stride otherwise it'll be a shark jumping moment for a decent chunk of the audience.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/13337692

Also post people who would make/would have made a good Doctor.

>>84533205
If they do that, they should just cancel the show after Christmas. Series 10 was a mistake.

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GOAT

Anyone else feels like effects are absolute shit even considering the budget
Maybe because we had less lazer beams and pew-pew before, but I have a feeling I wasn't so mad about shitty CGI and effects even in RTD's run

>>84533376
>McCoy only getting my vote
;_;

>>84533515
Watch the episode again. the same stock explosion effect is used four times in a row

>>84533515
The effects were great for a TV budget >>84533510

>>84533575
>great
Don't kid yourself, they're okay for Big Budget Cuts

>tfw normies actually liked that episode
How? It was objectively trash that appeals solely pandering to retards who actually think Bill flying away into a water paradise was a good finish.

List things you want Chibnall to erase from Doctor Who

>regeneration energy as plot instrument

>>84533638
Cybermen being a hivemind of robots rather than mangled Humans despserately seeking survival.

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>Almost 50 years old
>Modern day setting
>Had to hastily get padded to 8 episodes
>Still somehow the best Cyberman story

Second Doctor was fucking GOAT. Why is it so hard for them to make the Cybermen compelling?

Earthshock was close but no cigar.

>>84533665
>>Still somehow the best Cyberman story
thats not world enough and time

>>84533665

I've been thinking of getting into classic who for a while, but I always put it off because I always have to watch things in order and it really bugs me that there's so many missing episodes

>>84533665
Because it's mainly about Vaughn, an incredible villain written well and portrayed amazingly by Kevin Stoney. The Cybermen are secondary, dialogue-less, but menacing and utilised brilliantly. The Cybermen work best when they have someone else doing all the talking and plotting for them.

>>84533515
RTD's episodes had a lot of practical effects and invisible CGI with the occasional ship or ayylmao, so it's aged pretty well overall. Moffat's episodes are more blatant CGI so it sticks out more. Their compositing is also pretty lacklustre.

>>84533340
Make a trip so I can filter you

>>84533762
RTD's CGI looks terrible in comparison, but it's used a lot more sparingly than when Moff's era uses it.

>>84533802
The later CGI looks a lot better than the earlier CGI. Something like the wasp in Unicorn and the Wasp or the Adipose ship looks a lot better than the Reapers or the World War 3 crash-landing ship did.

>they made the mondasian cybermen fly
ffs

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>>84533762
Husbands of River Song has some of the best use of practical effects in the show.
The only bad bit was how Hydroflax's head bent part of the TARDIS console in one shot.

>>84533842
>the mondasian cybermen that had been sitting around for decades eventually were able to fly
oh how terrible

Excited for the Clara+Ashildr+Bill+watergirl adventures show.

>Be moff
>5 straight season finales where the first thing that happens is the universe resets itself and at the last second someone gets a superpower with no foreshadowing with super important female companions
>first season finale I write is a meta criticism on the universe resetting itself with no consequences
>get criticized for not enough foreshadowing. Whatever, I'll foreshadow enough to destroy subtlety. Thatll show those fucks.
>properly foreshadow ending. You fucks aren't satisfied because its now too overt
>next ending I say fuck it and give you guys an rtd style ending
>WHY DID YOU GIVE HER SUPERPOWERS OUT OF NOWHERE? NOT ENOUGH FORESHADOWING! NO CONSEQUENCES RESET BUTTON!
>say fuck it. Ill do what I want for christmas. Whatever. Tie up my loose ends. KINO Cybermen companion.
>new doctor. Ill get this right.
>"HE CAN'T WRITE CYBERMEN! WTF MOFFAT WHY COULDN'T THE MASTER BE A LESS TALEMTED MAN! REEEEE"
>write a finale with no villain
>RESET BUTTON! SUPER POWERS! NOT ENOUGH TOO MUCH FORESHADOWING! REEEEE!
>Write the greatest cybermen story doctor who has ever had. Have two masters so people can stop complaining. No super powers. More than enough foreshadowing. No reset button.
>REEEEEEE! WE WANT RTD AND RTD ENDINGS.

Fuck it. I'm just going to do whatever the fuck I want to again. Fuck all of you /who/. Going out with the two doctors. My way.

>>84533861
But no, it can't be true
I could fly if I wanted to
Like a bird in the sky
If I believed I could fly
Why, I'd fly

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>>84533762
>Moffat's episodes are more blatant CGI

>>84533900
Fuck off, that was a Gatiss episode

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Series 1 Dalek ship: nice CGI render but quite 'plain', lacking a textured edge

>>84533917
No it wasn't

>>84533887
I liked every Moffat finale
There I said it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HgNKX72404
watch this video and tell me he won't be GOAT Doctor

>>84533900
because doctor who has always been known for its amazing special effects

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>>84533921
Series 7 Dalek ship, 8 years later: extremely detailed HD CGI render with lots of stuff added to beef it up

>>84533921
Hey what nintendo 64 game was that from?

>>84533917
It was a Greenhorn one, it just starred Gatiss

>>84533959
that's from the 50th, it doesn't count. the budget was way higher there

>>84533955
I'm just saying that RTD used it a lot more than just the occasional ship or ayylmao

>>84533921
I remember watching this as a kid and feeling real awe when it appeared. Mainly because of the music, to be honest.
>"DaLE-oompa, DaLE-oopmpa, dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dahr dhar dahr dee dahr da, da-da, daaaaa, dum!"
Plus Eccleston was GOAT in that role.

>>84533947
At least someone is honest.

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>>84534024

Post yfw that "leaker" posts the pictures in a few hours thus confirming Marshall

>>84534103
the special effects were far from the problem with this

>>84534049
YES. Absolutely brilliant. So many moments of holy shit too, such as the Daleks floating up to the window right before they exterminate Lynda with a Y.

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>>84534103
delet

>>84534102
he said 6 or 7 pm monday lad
tomorrow

>>84534136
Hey guys, who was Linda with a Y? I don't remember her from any Doctor Who episodes.

>despite based Nardy's best efforts he is unable to hold of the Cybermen forever
>Is forced to watch the people he was charged to protect get shot down (Time of the Doctor 2.0)
>Still he plans to fight to the end, when he notices out of the corner of his eye...
>A child being dragged off by a Cyberman kicking and screaming
>The realisation dawns on Nardole that death is far from the worst fate in store for these people, that they still have all the horror of Conversion waiting for them
>He has to make a choice to spare the suffering of not only these colonists but also the entire galaxy - the Cybermen cannot be allowed to spread to other worlds

***
>Blue man wakes up on the bridge with a distress call from floor 500
>Nardole appears to be giving him instructions on how to overcome the time dilation problem
>Blue man (janitor) doesn't understand what he's doing but follows instructions hoping to put an end to everything that went wrong
>His face falls as the engines are switched off
>Nardole covers a little girl's eyes and calms her with his stories of the Madman in a Box, right up until the ship is torn to shreds by the event horizon

Make it happen

>>84534152

Oh, I'm an idiot

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>>84534161
Series 1 finale

>>84534136
Honestly forgot about that, GOAT scene.
>>84534161
She was on space big brother, or space weakest link, one of those meme tv shows where they kill them. Rose helped her escape and she tried to seal down a room.
The Doctor told her the Daleks could NOT get through the door behind her, whatever they did, then a bit later we see a Dalek fly up to the space windown in front of her, and blast through it.

Why didn't the Doctor just use the TARDIS to tow the ship out of the black hole? You telling me he can tow a planet but he can't tow a ship?

>>84534193
Find a more noughties outfit than this.
Hardmode: No nokia phone and flame tshirt

>>84534165
the space malteser of doom

>>84534235
>CANT FLY THE TARDIS NEAR A BLACK HOLE

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>>84533376
Who was the other anon who voted McGann? I want to give you an Internet Wilf Salute

>>84534254
That's through space AND time, and it was more about precision than anything else.

>>84534254
There's literally an episode in series 2 where he flies near a black hole.

>>84534235
>>84534254
He towed the spaceship out of a black hole's pull in The Satan Pit bro

I didn't watch Dr Who since Clara left. Couldn't stand Bill. I didn't like Clara much either but at least she was eye candy.
Just watched this episode. That girl from the puddle was qt. Why couldn't she have been the companion instead of some black bulldykes gf ?

btw somebody explain who she was

>>84534310
She got absorbed by space motor oil and turned into a living tardis fueled by her gay lust.
Also apparently she's a god now because the writers are hacks.

>>84534271
It was me.
Those ten minutes he was in that video for the anniversary special were better than the whole of 9 - 12's run.

>>84534310
>Couldn't stand Bill.
>Never watched one of her stories
Stopped reading there. At least keep your shit consistent.

>>84534310
In episode 1 they all traveled to WWII and drowned Hitler. He regenerated into waterfu.

>>84534310
puddle girl was a dumb slut that bill liked in the first episode. they both agreed to run away together but then puddle girl got eaten by a puddle, but then it turns out she now had super powered and was able to basically go anywhere throughout the universe in the puddle so she kept following bill.
then bill was like 'wtf why are you following me' and then she realized it was because they promised to stay together and bill is like 'okay but no thanks i wanna travel with the doctah instead' and so puddle girl fucked off but she left her tears with bill and that's how she came and saved bill at the end of this episode or some shit.

>>84534375
>what are trailers?
>what are commercials?
>what is youtube?
>what are photographs?
>what is word of mouth?
>what are moral principles?

>>84533623
>Unexpected yet well-hinted return of a loose end from series pilot ep
>Dramatic bittersweet companion send-off
It wasn't perfect by any means but I'd call it a good finish overall

>>84534407
TV's greatest hacks

POST FINALE RANKINGS

>ABSOLUTELY GOD-TIER
Pandorica Opens/Big Bang
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords

>GOOD TIER
Turn Left/Stolen Earth/Journey's End (shut up it's fun)
Heaven Sent
Dark Water
World Enough and Time

>MEH TIER
Angels Take Manhattan
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
Name of the Doctor
The Doctor Falls

>CANCELLATION TIER
Wedding of River Song
Hell Bent
Death in Heaven

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It was me Doctor, I was the author of all your pain.

>>84534241
Fuck, I miss the noughties. Better times.

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>>84534430
>Dramatic bittersweet companion send-off
lol bill is literally coming back in christmas

>ABSOLUTELY GOD-TIER
Pandorica Opens/Big Bang
Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords

>GOOD TIER
Turn Left/Stolen Earth/Journey's End
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday

>MEH TIER
Angels Take Manhattan
Name of the Doctor
The Doctor Falls
Heaven Sent
Dark Water
World Enough and Time

>CANCELLATION TIER
Wedding of River Song
Hell Bent
Death in Heaven

>>84533114
Chibnall, yes. Kris, no.

>>84534429
Oh I see, you're one of those people that have to have your opinions told to you instead of forming them on your own. ;D

>>84534458
That's a shot from The Doctor Falls, they're in the exact same location.

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>>84534241

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>>84534440
>This much bait in one post.

>>84534165
I remember being disappointed that this was "just" Daleks. They had the potential to create something new and kickass from a totally different universe but nope just the same old Daleks.

>>84534487
Black Dalek tho, which was neat, and the Cult

>is the future going to be all girl?
>we can only hope

jesus fucking christ

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>>84534479
The right image is The Doctor Falls, the left is one of the new filming pics from the Christmas special.
That carriage is also new, and wasn't in The Doctor Falls.

>>84533376
I would vote in your poll but I can't get past the fucking captcha, no matter how many times I try.

Am I a cyberman?

>>84534536
ROBOTS OUT

>>84533515
The only time I thought it watching this episode is when the spaceship flew out of the ground, that looked liked shit.

>>84534531
Nobody can be this retarded.

>>84534536
>>84534550
Why didn't they just put a CAPTCHA on the lifts?

>>84534487
I was literally shaking, hadn't been shocked before like that ever. I remember thinking "hmm what the hell is it" and then fucking Daleks showed up and I was flipping the fuck out. I was like 12 though.
Shame that whenever I rewatch that episode I fucking hate it. I wish I was young and not cynical again.

>>84534562
Well, look at you.

>>84533849
>Husbands of River Song has some of the best use of practical effects in the show.
The man in the restaurant opening up his own head looked amazing. Possibly my favourite bit of practical effects in the whole show.

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>>84534467
Doctor Falls = Heaven Sent > Big Bang > the rest

>>84534477
How in any way did what I said indicate that to you? I just explained the various media from which my opinions were formed. That's called forming your own opinion you knob.

>>84534440

>GOD TIER
The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang
World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls

>GOOD TIER
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways
A Good Man Goes to War
Dark Water/Death in Heaven
Heaven Sent/Hell Bent (Heaven Sent is kino though)

>MEH TIER
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday
Utopia/Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords
The Angels Take Manhattan
The Name of the Doctor

>SHIT TIER
The Stolen Earth/Journey's End
Wedding of River Song

>>84534562
Apparently you can be. I don't know how to make it any clearer. Bill is on the set of the Christmas special wearing the same outfit she had in this episode. The set they were filming on was a WW1 style set, so of course it looks a bit similar to the wreckage from the finale, but it's not the same place.

>>84534597
99% this. Though I actually liked name of the doctor

>>84533205
Reminder that women only have X chromosomes, but men have X and Y.

Women are the enemies of diversity.

>>84534589
The thing is, I had a similar reaction to you but after watching it I thought Bill was a pretty good character.

>>84534574
and then they reused it in the return of doctor mysterio

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>>84534564

Was there really any reason to have the Cybus and Nightmare Cybermen designs in this episode?

Seems like it was pointless "LOOK AT ALL THE CYBUHMANZ" wankage.

>>84534598
>The set they were filming on was a WW1 style set.
Yeah, it looks like the Christmas Truce. But someone on GBase said that it's not actually WW1 and many are speculating on it being Skaro. All speculations now tho.

I cried when the doctor said he wanted to watch stars while dying.
First time ever crying to the show. I regret nothing.

>>84534660
>Peter Capaldi and Jenna Coleman filming on board the Death Star, -8BBY

>>84534678
my first time was vincent and the doctor

We can now safely say that :

Series 5 > 8 > 3 > 10 > 1 > 6 > 4 > 9 >7 > 2

>>84534678
I cried during The Beast Below when Amy discovers the parallels between the Star Whale and the Doctor. I cried again during the scene in The Name of the Doctor when Matt was crying. Dunno why, I barely even remember the episode. Those are the only two times I think I cried at the show.

>>84534597

>God Tier
Bad Wolf/Parting of Ways
World Enough and Time/Doctor Falls

>Shit Tier
Everything else

>>84534666
Because nightmare cybermen look like an army. Mondasian cybermen look more human. When you want the cybermen to play the horror once human element, you use the cloth faces. When you need a threatening army, the mondasian cybermen dont look like much of a threat

>>84534666
Probably still had a load of the outfits lying around so it would save budget.

>>84534720
I think you forgot to add another ten > before 2.

>>84534670
>and many are speculating on it being Skaro
please no

Doctor Falls was so good, I hope Moffat doesn't drop the ball now

>>84534678
I teared up a few times. Lying on his back and saying the lines about stars would've been a great last line

>>84533515

Flying cybermen were embarrassing. The way they cut away from the ship crashing, and the way the ship moved in general, was teletubbies-tier.

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>dude is the future gonna be all girl
>we can only hope
in real drama tone with 100% seriousness, yes I really enjoy this revolutionary battle towards human identity too to the point where it exhibits as mass suicides in psychotic hallucinations but I sure would like science fiction without the nonsense.

Explain why series 2 is so, so much worse than every other series. In your argument you must make direct comparisons between series 2 and "better series," and you must not list problems in series 2 that other series suffer from. Your argument must not focus wholly on the series finale, nor should they place an unfair amount of weight on the bad episodes of series 2 as opposed to the bad episodes of other series.

Shit Trips Vol 2 submissions is officially started!

Have you seen Death in Paradise? I thought it would be cheap boring procedural, but in fact this show is dictionary definition of comfy. Tons of likeable charatcers, Marshall plays quite literally The Doctor, mysteries are actual mysteries and are quite intriguing. It's kino.

>>84534788
Can we try to guess what his last line was ?

>I guess it's time to be another good man
or some shit like that

>>84534854
grow up

>>84534888
The best last line/s for Capaldi were already given to Smith, dammit.

Maybe 12's will be something reflective and fannish.

"I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. No tears, no regrets, no anxieties. Onwards."

>>84534885
This, I've always sold it as Twin Peaks in the Caribbean but with no dream weirdness.

It's supreme comfy.

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Here's the one pic I saved from S10 some time ago.

No hope. No witness. No reward.

>>84534720
4=3>6>5>1>2>9>10>8

why are all tumblr-homosexuals and reddit shitlibs so obsessed with this show? gimme insider info fags.

>>84534271
I voted for mcgann as well. Chimes of Midnight is possibly the greatest doctor who story ever made.

>>84533887
>5 straight season finales where the first thing that happens is the universe resets itself and at the last second someone gets a superpower with no foreshadowing with super important female companions
When the fuck does the Universe reset in any series finale other than S3 (and only a year at that)? Who gets superpowers at the last second in series 2 and EoT? Why are important companions a bad thing? What the fuck are you smoking?
>first season finale I write is a meta criticism on the universe resetting itself with no consequences
But anon, there ARE no consequences once the Doctor gets wished back to life by Amy
>You fucks aren't satisfied because it's now too overt
Don't pretend it wasn't the most predictable shit in the entire showrun.

>>84533947
Series 6 finale was utter shite and Hell Bent was a disappointing Mary-Sue wankfest but the others were honestly great

>>84534955
Or
>I thinks it's time to go
to show that he wasn't a cry baby like ten when he said he didn't want to regenerate

>>84534857
because rose a shit

>>84534955
I think come the end of the episode, he'll accept the regeneration and go out with a smile.

>>84534994
cute!

>>84535001
>yfw you realise missy stood for the doctor with no hope, not witness, and no reward

>>84534955
>The best last line/s for Capaldi were already given to Smith, dammit.
I don't think Smith's speech would suit Capaldi. I think for Capaldi it should be something that subtly acknowledges how the series has been a part of his whole life. I absolutely don't think he should repeat what Hartnell said, at least not as his last words. Every Doctor should have different last words, I believe.

>/who/ presents:
DOCTOR WHO: SHIT TRIPS Vol. 2
- The Anthology -

>Are you a true fan of Doctor Who?
>Have you ever written down a sequence of words?

If the answer is yes or no, then you are ready to contribute a literary masterpiece to the second /who/ collection of original Doctor Who-based short fiction.

/who/ did it once. Now, we're gonna do it again! Yet another entry in an age-old tradition of p̶a̶c̶k̶a̶g̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶f̶a̶n̶f̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶m̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶i̶r̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶l̶e̶g̶i̶t̶i̶m̶a̶c̶y̶ / celebrating the magic of Who and the talent of a community.

There are no limits (except the story must be at least 1 word long, and preferably not in excess of 10,000, it's short fiction you fuck).

>- Can involve any Doctor(s), companion(s), side characters, spinoff characters and beyond, as your heart desires
>- Can be in any style, whether it's "legitimate writing", "pisstake", or "shitpost".
>- Can be about absolutely anything
>- The main focus is on good fun in the vein of the wiki, although serious entries are allowed. (If you're going to write smut, maybe approach it with a degree of levity)

Stuck for ideas? Try starting with your favourite TARDIS team (or for timeliness, 12/Bill “I'm a lesbian” Potts) and one of these authentic titles:
http://www.saberpunk.net/DoctorWho/DoctorWhoSerialGenerator.php
https://glyphobet.net/drwho
And free scenario prompts:
http://games.usvsth3m.com/drwho/

We are going to be starting an index on the wiki for the collection. Anyone can contribute, no signups/pitches required. If you have ideas, feel free to broadcast them.
The rest is self-explanatory. Format for uploading your work is up to you, as long as it can be conveniently copied across (and ideally don't spam long texts in /who/ directly). (Pastebin works well.)

BONUS: Anyone who wants to do cover art or "illustrations" is encouraged.

>>84534193
Still drawing a blank. Why do other people remember her?
>>84534210
So shes memorable because the daleks kill her?

>>84535130
>I think for Capaldi it should be something that subtly acknowledges how the series has been a part of his whole life.
"I will always remember when the Doctor was me" would've been glorious for the guy who waited all his life to play the part.

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>>84535111

>>84535111
i just realised that.

btw, i like the phrase, sounds nice, but why no hope per say? isn't hope a good thing?

>>84534885
I've been a fan since the first series, back when Ben Miller was the lead. It's a superb programme and it deserves the ratings it gets. I might be slightly biased because I am a huge murder mystery geek so I love it.

Also, they always air the series in January/Februari when it's cold outside. And there's nothing comfier than watching a light-hearted murder mystery set in the sweltering hot Caribbean while snuggling up on the sofa with the heating on. Long may it continue.

Oh and yes, Marshall was perfect in it and it's his portrayel in Death in Paradise that makes me think he'd make such a great Doctor.

>>84535162
It's glorious for anyone who's played the Doctor. Smith was incredibly in love with the role, and he became a huge fan of the culture and series because of it. I don't doubt that they would've been great words for Capaldi to go out on, but I think there are better ones that are a bit more personal than that. If there's anything I trust Moffat on, especially after the fantastic ones from last night's episode, it's writing a good speech for Capaldi.

>>84534885
>>84534970
>>84535184
I'm intrigued now, can I just start with the season with Kris?

>>84535178
Hope is good. But when you do the right thing, even when there's no hope, that's the greatest proof of your goodness.

And Missy proved that.

>missy stood for what she believed in, and where she stood was where she fell
pottery
bravo moffat

Hey /who/, now that the season is over are we doing shit trips 2?

>>84535265
>>84535154

>>84535265
See >>84535154

>>84535261
Missy backwards is "y simm", the last thing she thought before her death.

>>84535295
kek that's mmisy

>>84535184
>>84534885
Can you recommend some episode to stream for /who/ when he's announced?

>>84535312
Yeah there's two m's, the first one stands for "Master".

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DOCTORS ARE NOT REQUIRED

>>84535246
thanks for the explanation i like it

How confirmed is it that Kris Marshall will be Doctor?

Watching clips from My Family back in the day. He's pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rwScL3YGac

Why was Danny Pink in the future or whatever?

What happened to Moff's plan to lay the Daleks to rest after Asylum? Is the "every season or they lose the rights" thing true?

How come everyone forgot about the Doctor then everyone remembered who he was again? Why write that in just to undo it?

>>84534857
>Explain why series 2 is so, so much worse than every other series
Why? Is that the general consensus then? I loved it. Had a lot of great episodes (Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet/Satan Pit), some good ones (Tooth and Claw, Cybermen two-parter, New Earth), it had the return of Sarah Jane Smith. The final quarter of the series was a bit of a let down what with Love and Monsters and Fear Her, but the finale was pretty good and redeemed those previous two bad episodes. Maybe it's because I was 14 years old back in 2006 when it aired, but Army of Ghosts/Doomsday had me so fucking hyped. My 14-year-old mind just couldn't handle the idea of the Cybermen AND the Daleks showing up to fuck shit up.

I generally don't like to put series in a particular order in terms of quality or anything. They all have great episodes, good episodes and bad episodes. I just view the show in its entirety. And hey, I'm still watching it, so it's still good in my book.

>>84534857
Ok anon
The only real problem with Series 2 is how Rose was handled.

Rose turns to shit. She went from being a pretty good character to "Muh doctah he's my doctah I love him we're gonna be together forever" it really doesn't help that Ten nearly spent half of his run/lifespan crying over her which is really out of character for the doctor even if he was suffering from PTSD.

The season character arc is literally "Get away from the Doctor rose he's gonna ruin your life or all things have to end sometime" with no conquences whatsoever with how she ended up in JE.

>>84535375
About as confirmed as Rakhee being the actress playing 12's Series 10 companion.

>>84534857
I don't think it's worse than any other series, in fact I like s7 even less. But it's definitely much worse than anything else in s1-5.
The main reason is that it has poor episodes.

>New Earth: far too much stuff going on, pointless 3/10
>Tooth and Claw: okay 7/10
>School Reunion: mediocre, people only like it because of SJ 5/10
>Girl in the Fireplace: don't like this as much as other people do, it's a bit too manipulative and goes for easy tears, but for what it is it's good 7/10
>Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel: not bad if you can switch off your brain and enjoy it for the big dumb spectacle it is 6/10
>Idiot's Lantern: Gatiss tier 4/10
>Impossible Planet/Satan Pit: only genuinely great story of the series 9/10
>Love and Monsters: an 8/10 episode about the Doctor's impact on other people's lives brought down by the monster 6/10
>Fear Her: only excusable because it was written on the fly after Stephen Fry couldn't deliver his script 2/10
Army of Ghosts/Doomsday: good build-up, but the second part focuses too much on family drama, on the whole decent 6/10

A big problem with the whole season is Rose: she's absolutely useless throughout. The only episodes where she takes control of the situation around her is The Satan Pit, and partially Fear Her. Otherwise, she's just getting dragged along, kidnapped or body-swapped the whole time. Also you can tell the writers haven't really gotten a grip on the Tenth Doctor yet, he doesn't have many memorable moments in this compared to other series.

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>>84535240
Eh, you could start there but it's spoil a great plotline for you. I'd just start from S1. You'll enjoy the set-up and the characters a lot more than if you just step in with Kris. Your choice though. But it's only two series with Ben Miller and he's great as well.

Is Ten confirmed for the least-living Doctor with only about 5 years? Or is that still with Pertwee with about 4?

>>84535440
>School Reunion: mediocre, people only like it because of SJ

It had K-9 and Giles from Buffy too.

>>84535261
Without hope. Without witness. Without reward.

And the Doctor will never know she stood by him in the end.

>>84535453
god I'll bet it fucking hurts to fall over like that in one of those suits

>>84535460
aight thanks, will do in due time

>>84535409
Shame she wasn't. Shabnam was a qt.

>>84535502
They're actually pretty comfy. Was an extra in Series 2.

god the conclusion to the master/missy arc was so fucking good I'm now mad at moffat for actually writing it well since I can't complain about it

>>84535534
She's playing Eight's companion in his Time War audios.

No, seriously: https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/new-companion-announcement

>>84535460
Anon pls => >>84535313

>>84535387
>Is the "every season or they lose the rights" thing true?
I've always been intrigues by the rumour. Because there's never been an official source, yet whether or not its true the Daleks HAVE appeared in some way or form every single year since 2005. Even if they don't get a story, they get a cameo like in Waters of Mars where the older woman companion has a flashback of seeing a Dalek fly past her window as a kid. Or this year in The Pilot, where The Doctor takes Bill to a Dalek fight.

Either the legal rights thing is true, or the producers just want the Daleks to appear every year to keep them in the public's mind, even if they don't get a full story. Could be because they want them to stay iconic, could be because they want to sell merchandise. But it seems we'll never know whether the legal rights to the Daleks thing is true or not.

>>84535313
They're all quite good anon. Once Kris Marshall is announced I'll have a look through to find some of the best episodes where he shows off his best Doctorish side if people want to watch it here. But honestly, they're all good episodes. There's a reason it gets double the ratings that DW does, there's a reason it keeps on getting recommissioned, there's a reason they won't drop the show even when the main actor decides to leave. In many ways it's like DW, the main character detective stays on for 3-or-so years, then retires and a different man takes over. It also keeps the show fresh. Watch it anon, it's really good.

>>84533482
I really liked this series and did not like the previous. The problem was the companion, not the Doctor or the writing. Bill was great, her being lesbian didn't interfere with the stories once. If the Doctor turns out to be a woman now I will be disappointed because that was hamfisted, besides, we already had the Master be a woman.

>>84535627
see
>>84535719
I'll recommend some episodes if Kris is announced. No point in streaming any episodes now. Just go watch the show. It's very well-written, funny and has a great cast.

>>84533575
It's like no one remembers the effects always being shitty and giving that charm to the show. The effects were great for the episode, I had no problem imagining the war zone The Doctor found himself in, no problem imagining any of this was totally "in universe".
Has anyone of you people ever seen a Dalek?

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>>84535597

>>84535337
you're mums not required m8

>>84533376
>top is all NuWho
I didn't expect /who/ to be such plebs
Wh doesn't Hartnell have more votes?

>>84533623
>doesn't remember how the Ponds ended up
>doesn't remember how Rose ended up
>doesn't remember how any of the companions have ended up for the reboot.
You're just hating it because you need to hate it because it wasn't exactly the same thing as it was when you started watching. You call people who liked the episode normies because you can't enjoy watching Doctor Who anymore. You're jaded, plain and simple. It's sad. Do consider a rope and a chair.

>>84533762
>RTD's episodes had a lot of practical effects and invisible CGI with the occasional ship or ayylmao

You should REALLY rewatch the RTD Era. You're way beyond rose-tinted glasses at this point.

>>84533700
I agree

>>84535747
>The problem was the companion, not the Doctor or the writing.
You're talking about S9 now right? Clara was terrible, I agree.

>Bill was great, her being lesbian didn't interfere with the stories once.
Fucking finally who agrees with me. Bill was a great companion and the fact she was a lesbian had no impact on any of the stories. She was a nice, fresh addition and a good one-series companion.

I'd like to see more one-series companions. Clara really, REALLY overstayed her welcome in my opinion. Martha and Donna worked because they were only around for a short time, so there was no time to fuck up the characters. Rose became terrible because of the whole love thing (okay, Martha had the same problem, but she had more going on than just that). I loved Karen but even she stayed on a bit too long.

When I look at an incarnation of a Doctor I want to think of all the adventures he had with his different companions. Companions sticking around for four years should not be a thing

>>84535831
>The effects were great for the episode
Let's not lie. For Doctor Who, the effects this episode were stellar.

>>84535490
It was great. I loved it.

Cathartic Spurious, are you around? The writer of the Hybrid, I mean?

>>84535980
Absolutely. I'm downplaying it for the scrubs who watch this show to hate it on.

>>84533515
Didn't feel like the effects were rubbish at all this episode. Only thing that niggled me was the shot at the beginning of the episode, with the shot of the CGI hospital with the Master, Missy and Doctor on the rooftop. It just looked completely fake.

>>84535313
Watch the first few seasons of My Family where he's the eldest son Nick. He'll show the zany side to his Doctorishness in that show too.

>>84535600
That's all well and good but I can't look at her if she's just on the radio can I?

yesterday finale was pure shit

god that heather comeback ...

the doctor death...

master dead...

>>84534103
Dobby is a free elf!

>>84533528
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13337692
Capaldi getting all those votes is odd to me. He is damn good but his seasons were very bad to mediocre at best.

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To be honest, I don't expect amazing CGI or special effects in Doctor Who. It's a tv show with a limited budget. I'm amazed at what they accomplish with the money they have honestly.

That said, remember The Lazarus Experiment?

>>84534049
The reveal was just great in every way. And this was back when the Daleks were still completely new to the revival. We'd only seen a single Dalek before and it had wiped out almost an entire underground base. It was exciting as hell to imagine an army of them because the writers had yet to cheapen them and make them boring.

>>84534720
No.

>>84536117
/tv/ are all plebs.
most of them have only seen nuWho
also remember it's summer

>>84535966
Yeah, it's almost a shame Bill couldn't have 1 season more, or half a season, but then again it might ruin her run. A way better actress than the one playing Clara, who honestly came across as just a pretty face for the Eleventh after he'd lost Amy. I can't really say what Clara was about except being suicidal after her bland boyfriend got upgraded (for once it truely was an upgrade, he suddenly became interesting)

>>84536111
You sound like you've really thought about this.

>>84536068
I saw My Family while growing up. I'm afraid of watching Kris back in that. I liked his goofy character, but I don't think watching him in that will convince many anons that Marshall's a great choice for the Doctor. Death in Paradise is your best bet. He was also in Murder City, a short-lived detective series where I think he played either the lead detective or the side-kick and he was some kind of maths genius. I'd have to watch it back but I think he shows off his potential as the Doctor in that too.

>>84535007
move 6 down a few spaces and put 7 around the bottom and we are good.

>>84536224
Second and Third doctor deserve more votes. Man they had some great stuff going on.

>>84536224
I remember being 16 and coming here for the first time. Fresh off /b/, wanting to troll with all the memers, stumbling across this page where I could talk about tv-shows and movies and tell people they're plebs.

I only visit every few months now. Makes me less jaded.

>>84536117
>>84536224
Stop spamming this meme

>>84536182
>that filename
I actually liked the Lazarus Experiment episode but yeah the CGI was terrible, even for 2007. The creature design was genuinely terrifying though. If they had that monster in a blockbuster film with a huge budget it would be sick

>>84536263
I wouldn't worry too much
The BBC execs are probably going to fire Chibnall when they realise he's going to cast white people in his show.

Shit Trips submission-

A Farewell to Friends by Nacho

https://pastebin.com/TzgGJiNM

A regeneration short story of 8-Shalka.

How'd I do, /who/?

>>84533205
>after years of confusing moffucking the ratings are low
>Beeb is on its knees with Top Gear and Bake Off dead

It's too big a risk. They need to win back Tennant fans who have no watched in ages. A female doctor is only going to confuse the casual viewer

>>84536336
Just because you disagree, doesn't make it a meme.

>>84536362
I remember you wrote for Metacrisis. I'll check it out.

I am genuinely going to miss Nardole. If you told me a year ago that I would feel this way I'd have laughed my ass off. In the end he was an amazing addition to S10 and I'll really miss him. Let's hope we get more alien/non-human companions in the future. Doesn't have to be a Silurian/Sontaran or whatever because the budget wouldn't take it. Just someone who looks human but is actually alien and knows a bit about the universe. The Doctor being the all-knowing hero and his companion the clueless eye-candy can get old. This S10 dynamic of Doctor/Bill/Nardole was perfect

>>84536117
His era is far better than Tennant's, whose only good era was the second half of series 3.

>>84536461
He's the only companion I liked out of everyone twelve was with.

>>84536399
Oh man, I only just realised that. BBC's top three flagships are DW, Top Gear and Bake Off and they've lost the last two. I really wouldn't want to be Chibnall right now. He must be under some intense fucking pressure. He'll either be known in history as the man who saved DW or the man who killed it. And then in 20 years time, they'll revive it again.

>>84536475
It really wasn't. Calpaldi's era is only above Colin Baker.

>>84536451
That one was hard to do. I think this one turned out better in terms of plot/characterization

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So can someone please explain to me what fucking connection Bill had with Heather that made this some kind of happy ending?

>They see each other once at a bar
>They meet again some time later
>Heather immediately unloads her angst to a total stranger because fuck actual conversations
>Convinces Bill to come look at a weird puddle
>Gets killed
>This constitutes a relationship to Moffat
And Bill's happy ending is to spend the rest of eternity with this fucking puddle-obsessed headcase?

>>84536544
Stop spamming this meme

>>84536800
You're going to have to stop spamming this shit.

>>84534653
In the stupidest way possible. I still can't believe anyone thought it was okay for the dude to keep his gun in his head.

HE HAD POCKETS

>>84535597
It's amazing. It's like the best chocolate you ever had on a bacon strip.

>months of simm hype
>he finally shows up in episode fucking 11
>spends the entire time playing a completely different lolsozany character
>FINALLY we get simm master in ep 12
>he gets foiled in the first 5 minutes and then does literally nothing else for the rest of the ep except try to fuck himself and kill himself

What a fuckin waste

>>84536905
the moffucking is real

>>84536756

That's why I think that episode was pure shit.

Heather and bill weren't even in love in the first place.

No real relationship.

Moreover, Heather had no more free will and basically was dead.

Now she helps and saves bill and fuck what.

I mean really, FUCK THAT !

>>84536565
>with a sense of revulsion at the physical comfort she had given him

Why was he repulsed?

>>84536756
It's love at first sight. I mean, I don't agree with it at all, but that's Moffat for you. His recent interview comments on the whole business and it basically boils down to Moffat believing that love should be a big part of DW, and that you shouldn't kill off companions.

Now while I didn't like the conclusion, I can sort of forgive it. But the fact that Bill got exactly the same exit as Clara is some real bullshit. Two companions in a row living happily ever after travelling through space and time with a magical girl.

It's stupid because Moff actually showed us that he has the ability to write off a companion decently like he did with Amy and Rory. They died by being sent back in time and they lived a full and happy life together as a married couple. It was bittersweet because the Doctor could never see them again because plot reasons so in essence, they are dead to him. But they had a great life after their adventures with the Doctor.

>>84534678
>>84534723
I'll admit I cried during The Time of the Doctor just before Matt regenerated because it felt like losing a really fun brother and because Matt was such a great Doctor wasted by some really shit scripts

>>84536905
The first five minutes of DTF were amazing, with Missy and Simm teaming up on that roof. Simm did such an amazing job. But then it turned to shit and now he's dead and gone for good (his incarnation/portrayel at least).

>>84536964
The Shalka Doc is someone ive always pictured as a bit of an upperclass posh twit. Like the third doctor without the charm or the first doctor towards the beginning. He's being stuck up here, like "don't touch me, I don't need help". Thats how I picture him in scream of the shalka. A bit indignant, just short of being a jerk; more insufferable.

Is it any good?

>>84536962
So you only think its shit because of one thing?

Aren't you the same retard that started the retarded "woman's hand" meme/

>>84536965
>It's stupid because Moff actually showed us that he has the ability to write off a companion decently like he did with Amy and Rory.
>decently like he did with Amy and Rory
>decently
That was really not a good send off. The issue with Moffat, and to a lesser extent, RTD, is that they can't seem to feel convinced that anyone would leave the Doctor of their own volition. This is especially egregious with Moffat since he's so desperate for all his companions to lead double lives. They have jobs and lives on Earth but travel with the Doctor in their spare time for some reason. Yet they need some huge convoluted plot reason to keep them from the TARDIS. They can never just say "Okay, I've had enough of this", which is ridiculous because what's even the point of them having the double life if they're not going to eventually choose between it? This would have worked best with Clara or Bill. In fact, Clara's "exit" at the end of either Kill the Moon or Death in Heaven would have been one of the best companion departures ever in my opinion especially since it demonstrates the autonomy companions so rarely get to express.

It would have worked for Bill as well because in World Enough and Time she was legitimately scared of the adventure and desperate for The Doctor to keep her safe. He obviously couldn't keep the promise. She should either have sacrificed herself as a cyberman, or been reverted in some way and decided that she can never travel with The Doctor anymore because she has no trust left in him. Fuck this constant time travelling lesbian adventure shit.

>>84537100
Yeah, it's good.

So what's the deal with River at the moment? Because at the end of The Husbands of River Song the Doctor says that this is their last night, then surprises her by saying that a night on Derillium lasts for 70 years (or something). Now I took that to mean that there's possibilities of River getting off Derillium for more adventures in the future, she just needs to be back on Derillium before that night is over.

But Nardole's dialogue in Extremis and Capaldi's interchange with Gomez in the same episode make it sound like she's dead. Gomez mentions that "word around the Daleks is you were living in bliss on Derillium" or something. And then the Doctor went silent and Missy offers her condolences, as if River has died. It can't have been about Clara (which would've made more sense) because Missy explicitly mentions Derillium.

So what's the deal? Was Husbands really the end for River? Did I read too much into that final reveal of her last night on Derillium lasting 70 years meaning she could easily get off and have adventures before returning?

>>84536905
i'm torn because the way moff wrapped up the missy thing was genuinely fucking cool, one of the best things he's done in a long time. but simm himself felt like an accessory - moff needed another master, but it could've been anyone. he clearly wasn't interested in actually doing anything with simm

I have this idea for a Doctor Who serial where an event happens which separates the time lines so that Shalka, Cushing doctor, and the Curse of Fatal Death can all be canon.

>>84537201
This is why I love Martha's low key departure. After seeing the world basically be destroyed, and her family enslaved for a whole year, sure it all reverts and the day is saved but enough is fucking enough, and she wants out.

>>84537251
Oh hell yeh.

>>84537039
I can only hope in the future, there'll be a writer who wants Simm back and decides to go for the excuse that it's between The End of Time and World Enough and Time.

Honestly, Simm hasn't had the opportunity to be the Master he so obviously can be. His first appearance was close enough, but in The End of Time he gets wasted as an absurd hobo-eating skeleton with that stupid MASTER RACE plot. In his return he can finally go full scheming Master, demonstrating some really quality cruelty but then he doesn't get to DO anything. He just grumbles and makes dick jokes. If he was used to his full potential he would have been a cunning villain with an actual plot and some great villain speeches, rather than just a dude stuck on the fringe of the plot looking for a way out.

>>84537201
the ending of death in heaven is one of the most kino exits in nu-who. two friends lying to each other to protect each other's feelings and then going their separate ways. it showed an emotional maturity that i thought was beyond moff's characterisation abilities. if that had been clara's actual exit maybe i wouldn't hate her so much

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>Winning? Is that what you think it's about? I'm not trying to win, I'm not doing this because I want to beat someone, or because I hate someone, or because I want to blame someone.

>God knows it's not because it's easy, it's not even because it works because it hardly every does, I do what I do because it's right! Because it's decent! And above all, it's kind... it's just that... just kind. If I run away today, good people will die; if I stand and fight, some of them might live, maybe not many, maybe not for long. Hey, you know, maybe there's not a point in any of this at all? But it's the best I can do so I will do it, and I will stand here doing it until it kills me; You're going to die too... some day... How will that be? Have you thought about it? What would you die for?

>Who I am is where I stand, where I stand... is where I fall. Stand with me, these people are terrified, maybe we can help, a little.

GOAT speech or GOAT speech?

>>84537039
If The Doctor can resist regeneration, so can Simm

>>84537231
I think we're meant to believe the Doctor spent 27 years or whatever with River on Darillium before saying goodbye as she headed off to the Library.

Although when she gets to the Library, she seems to have no clue the earlier Doctor sent the message on her psychic paper and she's with that archaeology crew????

>>84537201
You make a good point. I'd like to see a companion leave of her own volition. Maybe because she's had enough, maybe because real life has become more important to them. You don't always have to kill them off or seal them in a parallel dimension or give them magic powers to travel the universe indefinitely.

The closest we got was Donna at the end of her first appearance in that Christmas Special. I think Tennant asked her to come with him but she was freaked out by his genocide of the spider aliens and was like "fuck no, back to reality". Martha left on her own volition as well I think.

>>84537229
Awesome. First one in the can for the season. Ill have to think of a different idea for the next one.

>>84537326
GOATGOATGOATGOAT

>>84537300
His first appearance was way too camp and flamboyant for me. End of Time was terrible, yes. But in this episode he was perfect as the Master, he fucking nailed it.

>>84537329
But he's going down to his TARDIS to get off and regenerate into Gomez. Gomez knows this is true because she knew all along about everything in this finale. That said, you could easily write around that. They always do if they want to.

>>84537292
>>84537251
Don't know how to do it

>>84537351
Yep. Thanks.

Give me more entries, people!

Okay, guys, have you been watching anything to distract yourself on the hiatus?
I've been watching this show called Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, I've only seen the first ep, and it's already pretty good.

>>84537344
>>84537279
Martha left of her own volition, but unfortunate RTD can't leave his own characters alone. I like that she came back as a more competent character and never actually wanted to travel with the Doctor again but it sort of bothers me that her exit from the TARDIS wasn't an exit from the show.

>>84537446
If someone wants to bring Simm back, the best thing honestly would be to just bring him back and not reference where he is. It'll be a good few years down the line and only extreme autist fans will care enough to squabble for hours about it.

>>84537495
Remember when Fourth Doctor showed up in the Day of the Doctor and told Eleventh that you can regenerate into the same form twice?

>>84537539
>>84537495
Remember Time Crash: 10 asks 5 where in his timeline he is, reels off a couple of references, and they just move on. Don't need to pinpoint it accurately for autist fans who care about tiny tiny details.

>>84534888
>Will I be a good woman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3-0ZIRU7Ic

Don't post on /who/ at all, but I've been watching Victoria, and let's be honest, I feel like it's important, I would very much like to put my penis inside of Jenna Coleman's warm, wet, tight, and extremely accommodating vagina.

alright lads it's been a day who's hand was that
you autists should've got the answer by now

>>84537468
Is that the Netflix series? Haven't seen that one. It's based on a book series I believe and the BBC did a series of it featuring Stephen Mangan and it was pretty good. I'm wary of the Netflix one because it's Americans.

>>84537178

No. Also because of the master death, the dei ex machina, the mere fact of reversing one character's death... etc...

And yes I'm the retard who started the "woman hand thing".

:)

Am I right in thinking I can hear the Auton sounds from Spearhead when the Mondasian Cyberman fires its weapon?

>>84537725
Wouldn't we all... and spray all over her tits.

>>84537914
That's disgusting. Pervert.

>>84536182
>>84536348
I loved that episode, thought it was really creepy and the CGI was okay for DW
It's not talked about much on here though.

So actually, what's your favourite episode from S3, /who/?
>Smith and Jones
>The Shakespeare Code
>Gridlock
>Dalek two-parter
>The Lazarus Experiment
>42
>Human Nature/Family of Blood
>Blink
>Utopia
>Master Finale

Fuck me, looking back series 3 actually had some really great episodes

>>84537759
>alright lads it's been a day who's hand was that
what hand

>>84537759
It was clearly a woman's hand

>>84535597
It's like from another show completely, truly beautiful. Possibly my favourite scene from Moffat. The laughing and everyting is so fucking perfect.

>>84533510
FOR MONDAS
FOR CANARY WHARF
FOR EVERY TIME CYBERMEN ARE USED UNDERWHELMINGLY IN A DOCTOR WHO SERIES FINALE

>>84538164
What's this talk about a hand?

>>84537987
>looking back series 3 actually had some really great episodes
2,3, and 4 had some of the greatest nuwho episodes.

>>84536533
>they revive it
>One of Tennant's kids is the new Doctor
>Tennant cameos as Meta 10 in a universe crossover episode

Beautiful

>>84538347
>Series 3 and 4 had some of the greatest episodes

Ftfy

Give me ONE (1) good reason that Cybermen are bad and not a perfectly reasonable upgrade.

>>84538506
no penor

>>84538506
Because you might become a Nightmare in Silver Cyberman instead of one of the good ones.

>>84538418
2 had Girl in the Fire Place which is one of the best. They had a 3 others that were pretty good.

>>84538506
Because at the end of the day once all of humanity is cybermen, what happens? Do they paint cyber-still lifes? Do they compose cybermen symphonies? Do they go watch cyber-hulu or go play some cyber-footie?

NOPE! They don't have any sort of life anymore they just exist. They can't masturbate or have back massages or write shitty fanfictions or even enjoy a nice slice of cheesecake. They just exist

>>84538506
you'll look ugly

>>84538506
Because they are a virus. They think that they're just logical, but they are the worst sort of smart person--the one who forces their logic onto everyone else, without thought to consent or agency. The Cybermen are a literal spreading cancer on the 'verse.

There's a theory I've seen that the Pilot tech is what happened to the Cybermen after going to the top of the ship, and all those millenia of evolution. So, Heather is the final, mst Enlightened version of the Cybermen

>>84535462
didn't the Third Doctor spend 100 years in between leaving Metebelis III and arriving back on Earth to regenerate

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>>84538737

I want to marry Jenna Coleman

>>84538678
You are a virus. Stop forcing your tripfaggotry onto us.

>>84538782
pancakes

>>84537326
I liked how there was no over-blown music here

>>84538327
When the doctor regenerates, he has a woman hand at some point.

Some tards don't believe me and keep insulting me for that.

>>84538628
1 goat episode
2 good ones

Thats less than 1/4 of the series being good.

Hell, series 7 had 6 episodes that were at least decent by comparison(if not mediocre) for a better average

>>84538859
post caps then m8

The worst thing about Series 10 was how Moffat ruined Missy as the Master.

Firstly, the scenes of her crying and showing remorse, composing her "redemption arc", were completely unconvincing and came out of nowhere. I assumed she was faking as part of some evil plan that she would spring in World Enough and Time. But, no. Apparently those scenes were meant to convince us that a leopard really had changed its spots. And then she presumably turned evil again (sort of) offscreen(!) after she met her past self because...reasons.

Also, are we supposed to believe that it's just a coincidence that the Master only went soft and weepy and all sexual-tension-y with the Doctor once the character became female? I never really bought the "Moffat is a sexist" arguments before. I do now.

Also, how the fuck is Chibnall supposed to bring back a proper villainous Master now that she has reformed and was given a pretty definitive "death". Moffat's made it very difficult for him.

Michelle Gomez gave a spectacular performance as usual. And I remember reading an interview were she said she wanted the character to go DARKER in Series 10 after the frenemy stuff in Series 9. Missy was a much stronger and more entertaining character when she was bad/the Doctor's enemy. Y'know, like the Master is supposed to be...

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>>84533345
>mfw the director asked capaldi to crouch so that simm didn't look like a manlet

>>84538903
A cap was posted yesterday.
Feminine roughly 40-50 yo hand.

>>84538895
Finale's decent, Satan two parter was good, cybermen two parter was good, only reason people don't like it is literally not muh cybermen, which is a dumb reason given by dumb fanboys, other than that, new earth was fun, school reunion was great, there was presumably a bunch of bland forgettable episodes I can't recall or have repressed, and Girl in the Fireplace is just River Song's utter shite storyline condensed to a nonsensical montage so Moffat can drool to "history's greatest prostitute".

>>84538923

I'm thinking that, basically, if Missy even vaguely remembered the events as they happened, she remembered being back-stabbed by Simm, and prepared for it, Book of Saxon style, or w/e the fuck they called it.

>>84538968
It was Capaldi's hand you autist.

>>84537987
The ones I really liked:
Gridlock was great. Good, solid science fiction stand-alone episode with a good story.
I also liked Lazarus, which was decent and it was helped by the "reversing the polarity" line being used again for the first time in NuWho.
Human Nature and Family of Blood were kino, honestly some of the best episodes in NuWho.
Blink was obviously great. I don't think a single person would disagree that it was phenomenal.
Utopia is very special to me. The premise and the trailer shown at the time left me feeling like it was a filler episode thrown in before the finale and I had very, very low expectations. But then the end blew me away and I haven't experienced that level of hype while watching Doctor Who ever since. I don't think they will ever top it.

Lesser episodes:
Smith and Jones was just ok. Old lady vampire with a straw was silly, didn't like the Judoon. For episodes that introduce a companion I always set the bar low. It was just ok.
Shakespeare Code was funny, but not that good. Didn't like the portrayal of Shakespeare at all, no idea why they went that way with him. Defeating the aliens by using poetry was stupid but the Doctor saving the day by yelling Expelliarmus was funny.
The less said about the Dalek story, the better. Pigmen roaming the sewers? Dalek/Human hybrid? Fuck off.
42 had an interesting premise, basing it on tv's 24 but with the twist that an average DW episode lasts 42 minutes if you cut out the credits. Like I said, great premise and nice idea to set the episode in real time, but it failed in the execution.
The finale was alright. Master as the Prime Minister was a funny and original idea and I loved it. But yeah, Dobby Doctor, Jesus Doctor, you know the rest. Toclafane origins was good and gruesome even though I predicted it.

>>84538968
A middle-aged woman as the Doctor could be awesome. But I don't see it happening yet.

>>84538923
Quite good bait. I like how you put the sexist thing sandwiched in the middle to make it more subtle. It shows that you at least put effort in.

Why can't the next companion be a young girl aged 9 - 12? I'd want to see it

>>84539041
Agrees. but fuck that jesus doctor thing

>>84539077
Why is it bait because it mentions sexism?

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>>84539115
Low-effort bait.

>>84538923
>Also, how the fuck is Chibnall supposed to bring back a proper villainous Master now that she has reformed and was given a pretty definitive "death". Moffat's made it very difficult for him.

It was either that or Missy being pregnant.

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>>84533887
>My way.

>>84538347
Agreed. 2 had the Ood two-parter which I loved. I think one of the best base-under-siege episodes in NuWho. I also liked Tooth and Claw and am amazed how the CGI still holds up.
Series 3 had so many, Gridlock, Human Nature two-parter, Blink, Utopia.
Series 4 was hit or miss for me, but I think Planet of the Ood, Unicorn and the Wasp, Library two-parter and Midnight were great. Especially Midnight, which I think is my favourite ever episode of NuWho. The rest of the series wasn't that great but it was saved by Donna who has a great companion and had great chemistry with 10. Also very refreshing to have a) an older woman playing the companion and b) the companion finally not having a crush on the Doctor. They were best mates going on adventures

>>84539162
So you keep saying, but why is it bait specifically because it mentions sexism? Are you saying that sexism doesn't exist, or that Moffat isn't a sexist?

>>84536756
Because lesbians are degenerates and cannot feel an actual connection or bond beyond sexual attraction.

>>84539237
Turn Left was fantastic. It also had some of the best Wilfred.

>>84538651
Yeah honestly. Once everything's converted, what do you do? No pain, no joy, no sorrow, no love. I doubt they communicate with each other unless it's for tactics to upgrade someone. So once everything's converted, it's over. They would just all stand there. Forever.

>>84539078
Child actors are horrible. We've seen them time and time again in DW. It would be terrible.
Imagine young Amy being there for a whole series? Or that black girl who Clara taught? Fuck no.

>>84539499
All the BBC need to do is find a good actress who can pull off sexy.

>>84537987
Utopia is best. I like every episode though, except the New Yorkian daleks.

>>84538923
>the Master only went soft and weepy and all sexual-tension-y with the Doctor once the character became female

Simm in EoT is an irrational mess, one second he's hitting the Doctor and the next his almost crying as he remembers their childhood. He keeps Ten in the kinkyest fucking chair in all of Doctor Who while bitching about "earth girls".

Missy is much more coherent, she has at least some control over her feelings and is able to even analyze them.