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realistically who can beat him? is he a mary sue?

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realistically who can beat him? is he a mary sue?
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Any fag can kill hin with a kryptonite shard and the balls to slash Supes throat with said shard instead of just holding close to hin
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The Mask
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>>>/co/
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One Punch Man
Dr Manhattan
Scarlet Witch
Bugs Bunny
The Mask
A regular guy in a bat suit
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Kryptonite bullet
#murica
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>>84192127
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>>84192127
>gets beat by a piece of rock
>mary sue
nigga
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Post-crisis supes? A lot of characters
Pre-crisis Supes? No-one
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>>84192508
>opm

This meme needs to end
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>>84192593
He was defeated sometimes actually.
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>>84192127
Wonder Woman
Batman (with prep time)
Plastic Man
Martian Manhunter
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>>84192766
I'm assuming we're talking about non-DC characters going toe-to-toe with supes
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>>84193081
What would any of these do if he let his heat vision off full blast?
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>>84193261
Plastic Man would get burned, then shake off the ash and mock Supes.
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>>84192686
Sorry but that's the way it is. His superpower is basically not being able to loose.
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>>84193419
Doesn't plastic melt though?
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>>84192127
technically Doomsday is designed to kill Supes
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>>84192127
>realistically
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Superman is a Mary Sue, he was written to appeal to children and given a strong enough arsenal of powers to solve any problem over the course of twenty pages. That said, it takes a great writer to be able to create a convincing story enough to defeat Supes that doesn't rely on him doing something really stupid or falling or an obvious trap. There are a handful of great stories that highlight the cunning of Lex Luthor in this regard, and I enjoy the ideological opposition of not being able to physically beat your opponent. Usually much more enjoyable to read than Mortal Mary Sue beating up a clown.
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>>84192127

Wonder Woman and Doomsday.
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>>84193450
No characters under 10 years old weeb fag. I have a blackhead on my back older than that gay shit
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>>84192127
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>>84193081
>Batman

Did you even watch BvS?
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>>84193639
Wtf did I just say you autist?
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>>84192127
The Karate Kid
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>>84192127
>is he a mary sue?

Pretty much every comic book superhero is with the exception of a couple anti-heroes (Punisher)
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>>84193081
>Batman with preptime
Actually he doesn't even need it.
Batman outran Flash without gadgets
Batman knocked Diana out in one punch
Batman survived reentry on athmosphere and crushing against Eart at mach 20 thanks to his kevlar costume
Batman survived being punched by Zeus and Ares and Darkseid
Batman beat using only martial arts two fullpowered Kryptonians who previous were laughing at how weak human weapos (including nukes) were because they didn't even feal tickles

In a 1vs1 Batman will completely obliterate Superman if he wanted
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>>84192127
>realistically who can beat him?
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>>84192409
How can Kryptonite affect Superman if Superman travels faster than the radiation that rock emits? This question always bothered me, is like Superman wants to be affected by Kryptonite
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>>84193624
Bro are you autistic? No one is forcing you to watch OPM. That character could beat superman, it's as simple as that.
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>>84193776
He also beat GL, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter at the same time using only martial arts.
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>>84193812
18+ thread bro
Your gay ass weeb shit is discarded bro
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>>84193812
No, it depends on what Superman. The truly OP versions of Superman can kill OPM before he could formulate a thought
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>>84193867
>Superman
>18+
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Capeshiters are so funny, you're no different than those who read anime
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>>84193812
>>84193639
>>84193450
Has he ever beaten anyone on supermans level?
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>>84193812
Superman is faster than him, no he couldn't
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>>84192127
the wall would maybe defeat?
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>>84193904
The strongest guy he beat could blow up Earth in one attack, so I think no?
But the author said that Saitama could destroy half the universe in one punch (because the other half would be behind him).

It's a joke character who runs on cartoon physics, is not meat to be taken seriously but people still do.
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>>84193900
Says a fag who worships a 8 year old character. Supes has been around before your grandad was born little fag. He's done it all, there's versions of him that can just think your weeb shit characters out of existence. You're embarrassing yourself kid. Move on
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>>84193992
>Someone's oppinion is different than mine that must be the same guy as before
Try again
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>>84193978
The author never said that, that just a rumour
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>>84194034
? well, that rumor appears in Shonen Jump
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>>84193978
These weeb kids are aware that Superman once sneezed a galaxy away? And his future version is only second behind the DCs god in power?
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>>84192127
>realistically who can beat him?
Dude, he gets rocked by shit all the time

>is he a mary sue?
No, that would require him to be perfect and a self-insert, of which he is neither
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>>84193978
>The strongest guy he beat could blow up Earth in one attack, so I think no?

Lol thats it? Jesus, the way he's wanked makes him seem like he's on multiverse levels
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>>84193776
>>84193850
I hate Batman so much. Worst character ever, worse than all anime mcs together.
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>>84194021
You weeb fags are all the same, there's no difference
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>>84192127
>realistically who can beat him? is he a mary sue?
He's literally a golem.
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>>84194063
sauce?
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>>84194095
He beat him incredibly easy though. But again, Im already agreeing with you, why you reply to keep the argument?
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>>84192508
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
Definitely not.
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>>84194104
Try again, you have one more chance, you might get it right this time. Btw, you read the same shit with colored pages.
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>>84194168
Not arguing at all. I've never seen anime and this character gets hyped to no end
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Elder God Demonbane
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>>84193776
Superman survived a star going supernova in his face. I don't care what fucking tech Bats has he'd get obliterated. Also where was bats when Doomsday ran wild or when Superboy prime one shorted all of Earths heroes?
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>>84194196
>t. Weeb fag
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>>84194204
Because he's japanese droopy. He's drepressed because he doesn't enjoy fights anymore, that planet shattering dude was bragging about conquering countless galaxies and Saitama (OPM) didn't even care, for him that dude wasn't even an ant. We never saw Saitaman's upper limit (so far he didn't even show 1% of his power), but I don't think he can come close to most Superman iterations.
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>>84192686
Agree. Character is retarded
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>>84193978
>its a joke character who runs on cartoon physics
tell us more about the guy who can shoot lasers out of his eyes, kryptonite, and the speed force
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>>84194276
Strike 3, thanks for playing. Next player? Also >>/co/ >>/a/, we don't want your shit here.
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>>84194095

There's different versions. Try and pay attention.
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>>84194235
Forget the supernova he held a black hole in his hand

He also had a fight that threatened the universe as mere collateral pic related
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>>84194204
You should check out the manga, shit's pretty good
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>>84194358
And Batman can still beat him with preassure points and martial arts.
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>>84194313
>t. Triggered weeb

kek
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Any magic user. Even washed up magician performing at birthday parties
Seriously DC magic is OP as hell
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>>84193581
Superman is not a mary sue, you ding bat. He's vulnerable to Kryptonite, magic and the solar radiation from a red sun. And he could be beaten to death by stronger villains, Doomsday. Now, Doomsday is a mary sue. if you happen to defeat him, he evolves over whatever it was that kills him. Yeah, that's op.

>>84193639
Yeah, no, That'd be Rey of The Shit Awakens. A Mary Sue is also loved by everyone, this guy's shat on by literally everyone.
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>>84192127
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>>84193914
>>84193904
We never see the upper limits of his power. He is as powerful as he needs to be to win. Keep in mind that OPM is a parody and being laughably over powered and always winning no matter what is part of the joke. He was punched to the moon and he wasn't even scratched.
It's basically cannon that no matter what OPM wins.
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>>84194393
You know Batman has never actually taken on Superman when he's completely serious right?

>>84194424
Doomsday's not a mary sue either. He just gets dropped in to beat up some big dude to show shit got serious and then they drop him back into the Phantom Zone or whatever when the writers are done with him.
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>>84194542
>cannon
>>84194544
He outran Flash, beat a serious Diana and beat Zeus, Ares and Darkseid when they were angry. Superman is small bussiness.
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>>84194544
He's literally unbeatable, that makes him a Gary Stu. He's not weakened by Kryptonite, or Red Sun or any of it. I've never seen them use magic on him.
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>>84194564
Yes, those scenarios where the writers stacked the deck in Batman's favor to not get stomped sure are proof.

>>84194648
First off all, being unbeatable doesn't make one a mary sue. Second, he gets beaten pretty much every time he shows up. He just he gets better and then they find another way to deal with the fuck
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>>84194544
>Batman has never actually taken on Superman when he's completely serious right
same armor suit with kryptonite instead
gg no re
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>>84194770
>Not muh head canon!
Yeah, sorry Superfag, Batman could destroy your boyfriend any day
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>>84194802
These discussions are autistic because the core of both characters is that they always hold back and never go all out
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>>84193081
>Dead
>Maybe
>Dead
>Dead
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meme to surpass all
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>>84195078
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>>84192508
Scarlet Witch?
Idk about that
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>>84195417
Comic book version. She could just wish him out of existence.
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>>84192508
Bugs bunny would defeat him mentally
He'll be unscathed physically but will be rendered useless, he'll be nuetralized and emotionally distraught
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>>84195500
If you count being a giant burnt matchstick with eyes as " unscathed"....
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Could Superman avoid getting turned into LCL during the Third Impact in EoE?
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Who's ultimately the most powerful super hero?
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>>84192686
You get that the point of the character is to always end these endless powerlevel fights, right?

>Supes could beat the Flash easily!
>Nuh-uh!
>Yeah, too!
>Prove it!
>Quiet down children, you're both wrong and stupid. One Punch Man kills both of them in one punch. Now either leave me alone or go kill yourselves for liking capeshit

this is literally me with my nieces and nephews, by the way. I am truly an enlightened gentlesir, above such petty squabbles.
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>>84193809
>spend the next 10 trillion years trying to outrun every bit of radiation from kryptonite
Are you talking about when he flew so fast around the Earth that it reversed rotation and time went backwards? Because I'm pretty sure they didn't make that part of the official Superman thing, and even if they did, it took him some time to come up to speed and I don't think he has the time to do that so often if he wants to help people, so he takes the handicap of the spare particles here and there counting on the sun to be enough to keep him super.
>>84192127
A while back someone was talking about a Hulk encounter in which the Hulk just got angrier and angrier every time superman hit him, and each time he got angrier he got more powerful, eventually knocking superman into a black hole or some such.
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>>84194770
But beating him one way will not defeat him twice. So that's someone to be weary of. Superman's a battery, keep him from a yellow sun or have him near a red sun and his power wanes.
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>>84195774
God
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>>84192127
Mr. Mxyzptlk
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>>84197268
kek mah boy Superman Prime fucked that bitch hard
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>>84192127
Any writer from WB. The thing I hate about superheroes is that their power levels are never consistent. Asspull after another, multiverse after another. Just make them a certain way and keep them like that. If they can't come up with a way for the hero to beat the bad guy, let him lose.
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Martian Manhunter.
Batman.
The Question (maybe).
One Punch Man.
Dr. Manhattan.
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Kind of, but that's the point. With Superman you're not really supposed to focus so much on how strong he is in comparison to the peons on Earth, as much as you're supposed to focus on the stories where he's the only guy who can stand up to these world-ending characters.

His villains are more or less tailored to fuck him, in some way (Parasite drains powers, Metallo is literally a robot that's powered by his most famous weakness, Darkseid is Darkseid, Zod is him but more strategic and willing to murder, etc).
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>>84197907
>The Question (maybe).
That's a first for one these threads
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>>84197907
>The Question
Well, you have my attention. How in the fuck can the Question possibly go toe to toe with Superman?
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>>84192127
Superman is only an interesting character when he has a morale struggle over his god tier power. Otherwise he ruins the point of all other super heroes unless he's up against god tier threats like other Kryptonians, Darkseid, Mongul, ect.
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>>84193081
>Martian Manhunter
more OP than supes.
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>>84194097
Stay mad.
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>>84199349
I never seen a character with more plot armor, he's even a match for the bat.
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>>84199349
Not who you're replying to, but he's basically just a more paranoid, poorfag version of Batman.

I can see him taking Superman on. Maybe not winning, but I'm sure he could do some amount of damage, if not physically or psychologically, then at least to his reputation or ego.
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>>84194146
We all know about Superman's jewish origins, but how is he a Golem? A golem is a clay figure brought to life by a rabbi, superman is just an alien jew.
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Why do people underestimate The Flash?
He can solo the justice league if he wanted.
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>>84192508
Does one punch man have kryptonite or use magic? If not, then he would lose.
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Batman is essentially a rich gay man who beats up on the poor.
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>>84200120
Most OP character ever. No fucking wonder DC is having issues with the script and finding a good director for the movie.
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>>84195673
Wouldn't Kryptonians be a different Angel? Or do they count as Lilin?
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>>84200168
The poor and deranged please.
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>>84200177
He's comfortably broken though. Like his time travel and death escaping shit takes a lot of focus to achieve that speed, he can't always pull an I win button out of his ass.
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>>84200120
Over thinking superpowers is good as a joke, but that's it.
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>>84193505
Plastic Man is really a shapeshifter, and afaik he can't be injured
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>>84200120
Superman can beat The Fla-
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>>84193963
>Cement Joshua
What did he mean by this?
Is Cement Joshua related to The Wall? Why bring him up now?
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>>84199974
Let me just peer into Superman's mind an... AAAAUUUUGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
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>>84193776
someone who actually reads comics. good see at least ONE person knows what they are talking about, TOP KEK.
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>>84200344
>>84200120
god DC comics is so fucking stupid

Is Marvel even close to being this bullshit?
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>>84197773
You forgetting with character like these, they span all the way back to your grandparents, of course things change, power levels drop and go up.

Welcome to comic logic 101.
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>>84192127
Saitama, easily.
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>>84192127
>Yog-Sothoth has control over all of space and time
>Yog-Sothoth sees all, knows all, and is all
>Yog-Sothoth is itself all of the spacetime continuum and is omnipresent
>Every being that possesses intelligence is considered a mere facet of Yog-Sothoth
>Yog-Sothoth is coterminous with all time and space yet is supposedly locked outside of the universe we inhabit
>He is considered to be absolutely boundless
>Nothing can exist without Yog-Sothoth

It was an All-in-One and One-in-All of limitless being and self—not merely a thing of one Space-Time continuum, but allied to the ultimate animating essence of existence's whole unbounded sweep—the last, utter sweep which has no confines and which outreaches fancy and mathematics alike.

Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth.
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I like to think Superman would beat Saitama simply because he has an edge in charm and intelligence.
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>>84192127
>realistically who can beat him?

A lot of people. Supes has been beaten before by street levelers.

It depends on who is writing and whether Clark is jobbing or not.


Garuenteed losses though. Anyone above skyfather tier. Gos tier Reality warpers like Mxyzptlk.
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>tfw no fanart of superman being kept as a high end cumdump for super villans
>he is kept weak by a kryponite cockring and another kryponite bead lodged deep inside his anal cavity
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>>84201199
Be the smut you want to see in the world.
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>>84201199
Are there any canon details about Superman's reproductive organs? He probably has an average or below average dong
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Not even all of /tv/ characters combined can beat pic related.
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>>84201199
HOT

I WANT DOUJINS OF THIS
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>>84201333
He can't even beat a pink ghost
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>>84192127
Current Goku can defeat any version of Superman, he's that OP now.
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Madara uchiha
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>>84201481
Madara got beat by a bunch of edgy teenagers with knives.
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>>84201333
>literally who?

Come on nigga. My chinese cartoons knowledge extends as far as dragon ball super
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>>84201514
Google it, normalfag.
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>>84201504
Nigga has reality warping powers but hes still too slow.

Madara nearly got killed ONLY from a speedster fighting for a few minutes. Superman is faster strong more durable can fly and fight on indefinitely.

Although its all kinda hopeless, madara could just use magic. And magic user that is fast and durable wins really
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>>84196206
>in which the Hulk just got angrier and angrier every time superman hit him, and each time he got angrier he got more powerful, eventually knocking superman into

Things that never happened
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>>84201538
Nigga I dnt care enough to Google your Korean cartoons
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>>84201698
Then why are you in a cartoon thread?
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>>84193081
>Martian Manhunter
lol no
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Luke Skywalker in his prime (in the old canon)
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>>84199349
There is a debate if Question's intelligence is more than/equal to Batman's. Although Batman has basically unlimited resources, Question has a much looser moral compass than Batman. Maybe Question is desperate enough to pull some suicide bomber shit in order to discredit Superman?
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>>84192127
Would get BTFO by Bugs bunny
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>>84201993
>Maybe Question is desperate enough to pull some suicide bomber shit in order to discredit Superman?
>Maybe
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>>84201945
George please
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>The Question

The absolute madman.
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>>84201776
Cause I'm high as shit
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>>84192127
popeye, that guy is unkillable
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>>84192127
Majin Vegeta
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>>84202105
I thought it was bullshit when I heard it too. Google his feats from NJO. George has nothing to do with it.
He can become ethereal and survived standing next to the black hole at the center of the galaxy and can move ftl, he's absolutely fucked
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Bobobo Bo Bo Bobo

I'm not even joking.
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Elder God Demonbane
TOAA
Saigyouji Yuyuko
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The OBVIOUS fucking answer

-lifted up the earth
-dog paddled an island he and Olive were trapped on back to the mainland
-used a lasso and pulled the other side of the Grand Canyon closer just to get to Bluto
-knocked a comet thst would have destroyed the earth into tiny bits
-punched Bluto so hard, he hit the moon, knocking it into a crescent
-pulled the moon closer to the earth
-stopped a Martian invasion by punching the fleet back to Mars
-pulled the world continents together with only a lasso
-punched Bluto so hard he broke the time stream and de-aged to an infant
-knocked Bluto so hard he altered the constellations in the night sky
-can punch fast enough to deflect machine gun fire with his bare fists
-has ran down Bluto, on foot, as Bluto was in a race car in an attempt to kidnap Olive
-can leap in the air and punch out fighter jets in mid-flight
During WWII, once put out all the lights in his hometown during a bombing raid
-built 8 battleships by himself in 5 seconds
-survived having a battleship dropped on his head, beat up Bluto as a result
-survived being shot in the head point blank by a cannonball by the pirate
Blackbeard
-can be resurrected from the dead by spinach
-can master any discipline just by taking spinach. Led a 20 man band where he was the band himself, became a master musician, sculptor, scientist and magician
-can manipulate and stretch his body, even breath in space
-once punched a mountain into a hill cause it was blocking his view
-has juggled planets
-punched elephants, alligators and mad bulls into full leather jackets
-punched Bluto around the earth which traveled faster than the speed of light, no spinach
-beat over 50 thugs in 30 seconds, no spinach. Then 40 more in 3 seconds on spinach
-was shot in the back of the head by a bandito, which the bullet then bounced off his head and hit the bandito. Popeye was unaware
-can beat up multiple people at once while simultaneously lighting his pipe and smoking it

You fags even tryin?
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>>84192556
SHAZAM
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>>84192127
Easy
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>>84200120
wouldn't living be torturous as fuck for him if he's perceiving everything on that sort of time scale? even talking would feel like eons
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>>84203494
This has been beaten to death...twice.
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>>84203351
lmao manlet
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>>84204142
Still gets more pussy than you, shitbag

*toot toooooot!!!*
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>>84192127
Any God or New God with New Genesis or Apocalypsis technology.

Magic Beings or someone with Magic Weapons.

Someone with the power of generating different types of radiations.

Someone stronger than him (there are).

To name a few:

Captain Marvel
Black Adam
Captain Atom
Flash or any other speedster.
Plastic Man
Martian Manhunter
Lobo (if he wanted)
Orion
A fifth dimension being like Bat Mite or Mr Whatshisnamxptys
Zatara
Zatanna

DC superheroes/beings are way too OP, and while Superman is very powerful there are plenty of ways to beat him. Unironically, you cast a spell on a rock and you can knock him out with it, and magic is something every living being in the DC universe has access to.
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>>84192509
>Faster than a speeding bullet

Nigger please
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>>84204711
plus guardians, imaginative lanterns and the entities.
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>>84203679
When he get's bored, yes, it's pretty much like that as far as i remember.
That's exactly why i like Mercury more, he actually suffers because of his powers, life for him is boring, he's living in hell.
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>>84203679
Yes, also, one of Wally's biggest fears is to live faster than everything and not being able to experience life or interact with anything.
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>>84194848
Supes could end batfag in a second if he wanted too.
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>>84200120
This is it, this the stupidest thing I will ever read.
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>>84200514
Ha, fucking newfag, marvel is worst by far.
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A Mary Sue?

Are you people insane?

Superman is the singl greatest jobber in the DC universe.

"The Justice League faces a great threat! How do we show the threat is great? Why, we have to immediately down the member who is perceived to be the strongest! Bye Bye superman!"

the actual mary sue is Wonder Woman, who is basically unbeatable
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>>84201945
Nice joke
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Why does he trigger capeshit fags so much?
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>>84205704
He triggers capeshit fags in two way

1) The people who actually read comics love him and know how many great stories he has, o they go ballistic when other people dismiss him as a boring character

2)Batman fags. He's batman, he's the best. Because he's the Batman. The Goddamn Batman
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>>84193978
>again bringing anime characters
Most anime characters are written like how we used to compare shit in kindergarten
>my guy is the strongest
>nuh uh mine can beat gods
>but mine defeats gods gods
>mine can kill a god with a single punch
>mine can wipe out the universe with a single punch
>sure but mine has a shield that can survive that
>but mine has a device that turns the shield off
And so on and so on
Anime is fucking boring, always the main guy gets beat up and then trough power of love/friends/family/monologue they stand up, the villain goes "n-Nani" and happy ending
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>>84205704
I don't know about trigger: I think it's more that OPM is a boring, onenote gimmick character. He tends to attract the most obnoxious and autistic fans too. People with real personality issues.
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>>84205823
anime really is ridiculous, i like vamps myself so i decided to check out Hellsing, and Alucard, a fucking vampire, has the power to wipe out entire human armies by himself and probably crack the crust of the Earth itself, because why the fuck not?
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>>84204711
>captain marvel
You are having a laugh.
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>>84205704
Because he's the only good superhero around and his show is better than any of the capeshit movies which triggers people who came to 4chan to discuss politics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4_zFYnnn2Y
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>>84192508

Bugs Bunny is practically BvS version of Lex Luthor
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>>84206000
Show is boring and predictable as fuck. A snooze fest only enjoyed by people with extreme cases of autism
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>>84205970
- Captain Marvel is faster than Superman, Superman is stronger, tho, but he is still near his strength level. Taking aside their others powers and based only on this, one can beat the other.

- Captain Marvel has magic lighting, a power which he can use to incapacitate Superman, totally.

- Captain Marvel has the stamina of Atlas and the Power of Zeus, aka, while in his Champion form he will never get tired. Superman powers come from the Sun and he works like a battery, without a Yellow sun his power will run out accordingly to its use. Captain Marvel can unironically tank Superman until his powers run out, and I mean eternally.
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>>84205873

THATS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU THROW RUBIES THE SIZE OF TANGERINES AWAY!
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>>84192127
>More Powerful Heroes
Alan Scott
Dr. Fate
Mogo
The Spectre
Highfather

Comperable Power Heroes
Green Lanterns
Captain Marvel
Orion
Other Kryptonians or Martians
Mr. Majestic

Hard to Measure/Superman Specific
Triumph
Captain Atom
Firestorm
Aquaman (full psychic powers)
The Wizard
The Phantom Stranger
Hourman
Metamorpho
Swamp Thing
Various Magic Users
Flashes (mostly Wally)

I'm sure there are others.

Count villains or future heroes and the list becomes longer.
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>>84194564
>He outran Flash, beat a serious Diana and beat Zeus, Ares and Darkseid when they were angry.

Bullshit. In league of one Diana solo'd the entire league including Batman.
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Mr.Purple or whatever his name is from J.Jones
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>>84200344
I mean Wally was borrowing the speed of Bart, Jay and Jesse just to keep up in that fight, but ok
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>implying Jesus isn't the greatest and most powerful superhero of all time
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>>84192127
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>>84192127
The Flash, obviously.
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>>84194483
Buu is a being comprised of a large perecentage of magic, and several of his attacks are magical in nature

Buu's candy-beam for example would fuck Superman up, and since Supes doesn't use Ki (and is vulnerable to magic) he's completely fucked when that happens
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>>84200120
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>>84208104
>stop talking about things I don't like because I'm too stupid to understand people derive enjoyment out of talking and playfully arguing about their interests and hobbies
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>>84203351
Better question is...there is any fictional character that can put down Bluto once and for all?He is the ultimate tank.
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>>84194181
>Dr. Manhattan
>no
Lol, k superfaggot
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>>84208104
power man reminds me of one punch man
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>>84192127
Batman (with the element of surprise of course), Wonder Woman, Flash, and Darkseid could all beat him to death
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>>84193081
>Batman (with prep time)
Any time he's beaten supes has been a result of supes holding back.

Even the DKR Batman victory was retroactively sullied by the ending of Master Race. Superman was holding back, all his life, by an incredible amount.
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>>84203351
>Still can't beat Bluto, just a regular sailor guy
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How has lobo been only mentioned once this thread? Or did they nerf him into shit with some recent interpition
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>>84192127
goku, beerus, etc
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>>84205702
>>84202257
Look it up or get fucked
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Batman with prepare time... but batman always; prepare time is his secret weapon. He can always just prepare to prepare for the battle, therefore he will always win.
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