Why does everyone hate this film so much? It was much better

Yeah it's pretty fun. All the hate are from fanboys of the franchise. That gay kraut can shoot a fun dumb blockbuster.

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>it's a puff daddy raps over kashmir episode

It's fun.

>>84180031
GOAT tier poster

Godzilla looked like shit but the film was bretty fun

The Helicopter chase scene through New York is kino

>>84180131
uh yeah
da da dum dada dum
da da dum dada dum

The only good thing about it is Jean Reno not giving a fuck

My first and best cinema experience.

I don't get why people hate it either.

I wore out the VHS tape of this when I was a kid

>>84180727

Jean Reno saves this film

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It was and still is a terrible film, but the Godzilla design was leagues better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_oiHWXLIFI

The spinoff series was GOAT

>>84180889
Why is it terrible though? I hear people say that a lot but they never ever give reasons

>tfw we'll never get the sequel the ending was setting up for

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>>84180983
Watch the cartoon

>>84180727

DUDE COFFEE LMAO

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>>84180889
I have this as a hand puppet, 1998 was the best Christmas ever

I liked it but no godzilla movie should feature hundreds of man-sized baby godzillas. just stick with giant monsters

Agreed. Half the Jap films are unwatchable and another 4/5 are slopes trying to morally browbeat us for being the undisputed victor in a military conflict when we should simply laugh at their pathetic nation and its subhuman culture

This is just a dumb film to entertain and it is well paced. Special effects were shit but so was everything else at the time.

Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2 are the GOAT kaiju films

>>84180956
It's basically Friends + Godzilla and the acting is subpar. But I still love it.

>>84180917
>>84181069
>>84181039
The more I look at this design I can see the homolust behind it.

Sage for fags and >we want the Jurassic park audience herp derp

>>84181180
what did jean reno buy with his first paycheck?

>>84180031
>It was much better than the 2014 snorefest

underageb&

>>84181235
a prostitute? fuck if i know

>>84181027
>Pacific Rim will never have a cartoon by this studio

>>84181235
a hot coffee

>>84181283
I heard it was a hot meal.

>>84181172
>g2k
my man, saw it when it came out in theaters

>>84181172
>GOAT kaiju films

Why are you using /v/ phrases? GOTY = Game Of The Year, GOAT = Game Of All Time.

For movies it's MOAT not GOAT.

>>84181172
Actually the effects are pretty fucking good for their time. I recently watched the movie on Mastered in 4K Blu-Ray and it looks a lot better than I remembered.
The whole movie is fun big-budget monster flick.

>>84181465
Greatest of All Time is what I meant

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>>84180954
I just remember getting sick one time in my childhood and having fever dreams of the cartoon and seeing it projected on my bedroom walls/ceiling one night. Really vague as I must've been about 5 or 6 but it cemented in my memory nonetheless. Don't remember the actual show at all though. It wasn't made by the same people that did the Men in Black cartoon was it? They both seem so similar in memory.

>>84181050
Me too! I still have it

>>84180889
The design breaks square cube law, big heavy animals become fat unless its just height. this is especially true in reptiles, its a physical law.

But who really cares about why thy design is good or bad. Everyone knows that the true conflict is that they called that creature godzilla. If they named it anything else it would probably be more appealing

I do have to draw a line on them putting a vagina on the CG model

>>84181538
It's fucking great and still holds up. Don't know if the creators are the same as MIB, but the style is similar.

>>84180131
mfw when I was a kid I fucking loved that song and didn't even know led zeppelin was a thing

>>84181597
Since when have movie monsters in popcorn films been known for following scientific accuracy? You can say that every godzilla design or large monster is physically impossible that way. The cloaca makes it more believable so now you are coming in here with personal preference as fact? get over yourself faggot

>>84181538
>>84181622
Yeah it's by the same creators. They also made Extreme Ghostbusters and a bunch of other shows, but these three seem to be the ones people bring up the most.
Also, the people in charge of the Godzilla show were huge fans and they were apparently kept in the dark about some of the movie's details, and that's why the cartoon was more faithful to classic Godzilla.

>>84180031
I actually really enjoy the film, the only thing that people were complaining about when it came out is most of the scene is at night (like all monster movies out there -except for the new Kong)

And we can't really see much shit. The only thing that makes it pain to watch for me is the baby godzilla scene... totally unnecessary.

>>84181750
You didnt read the rest of my comment at all. I dont care about it breaking the laws of physics, it could have fucking laser fingers for all I care,
Square cube law is just a point people make

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>>84180677
Yeah dude, this looks so much better, le cult classic, am I a nerd yet????

The characters are annoying cliches and all of the CGI action has aged like milk. Independence Day is a 10/10 masterpiece compared to this shit.

>>84181750
Since always faggot. Drop your fine arts degree and enroll in a real fucking program.

>>84181750
You know why the original jurassic park dinosaurs have form and definition to their models? Because they used the most up to date research at the time

Zilla was based on nothing, the CG design has a human vagina on it despite the fact that lizards any regular person would be familar with do not posses genitals

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>>84181903
It's a dumb point that's irrelevant
>>84181992
pic

>>84181750
Zilla had a vagina, not a cloaca. There is no escape.

>>84182108
For the record, I was only bringing it to light, I like zilla's design and hated the classic godzilla design until it was brought back and updated for 2014

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Winston's original design was leagues better than the shitty faggot iguana

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Say what you want about scientific accuracy, Zilla will always be a top tier design to me

>>84181027
One of the best cartoon intros

>>84181465
Nigga... just lurk more...

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>>84182243
>liking any of the fatzillas

Subverting that chubby look is the one thing this movie did right

>>84182090
>Do not possess genitals
Reptiles have a multipurpose hole that is shaped like a side-ways vagina. If they had changed the alignment it would have been more accurate.

>>84182318
It depends on the species actually

>>84180102

This.

All the hate is from the "purists". Godzilla is a garbage franchise for japs, at least the 1998 movie was fun. The worst part about it was fucking Broderick.

>>84182318
Yes, I know, the cloaca is very much not a human vagina slapped onto a reptile, however.

Look, I like Zilla, but pretending that theres anything well thought out about it is just lying to yourself, Zilla has mammal musculature, someone in the film thought he was at all comparable to an allosaurus.

Human pregnancy tests work on him?

None of this makes him WORSE, it just makes arguments that he's accurate silly. The most logical godzilla appearence yet is the 2014 design and even then that one has gills designed for animals that cannot leave water.

>>84182366
If we're dealing with an iguana mutant, it would have a cloaca

>>84182455
>>84182366
>>84182318
>>>/an/

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>People actually pretending to like "Iguana Rampage: starring Inspector Gadget"

>>84182455
Who's ever argued that he was accurate?

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i like the 2014 version. stubby nose, pure tank mode all around.

>>84182455
What if it is part human?

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>>84182539
>Inspector Gadget

>>84181944
unironically does

kill yourself zillautist

>>84182599
>He never saw the DVD extras
>>84182677
That fixes basically every anatomical error except for the fact that he'd still be pretty weighty

>>84181465
>Game of all time

What the fuck

>>84182243
That is honestly really dumb looking design and nobody would have taken that upright walking design seriously in the 90's after Jurassic Park. I'm glad we got a fresh new take on the monster. The only problem was that it wasn't powerful enough.

>>84183070
>muh realism

>>84180031
>>84180102
I just can't get over the slapstick/pratfall type shit they did in it. It was too goofy for me to be a decent giant monster movie.

>>84183371
>slapstick
>pratfall
>goofy

What movie are you talking about?

>>84180031
>It was much better than the 2014 snorefest
Let's make things clear. Godzilla (1998) is a bad film. But it definitely holds your attention better than Godzilla (2014). The latter is a dull exercise in filmmaking with nothing to say. It looks nice (whenever you can actually see it). But that's literally about it.

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>>84183371
People that hate this movie don't realize it's not for them, this movie was for children, so they could sell toys and capitalize on the Jurassic Park hype. That's why I loved it when I was 4 years old, the people that hate on this film are no better than the manchildren that enjoy capeshit, it's a children's movie.

>>84183070
Only problem? Godzilla (1998) was expected to become the biggest film of its time. Surpassing Star Wars, Titanic, and Jurassic Park. The marketing campaign was huge and other studios avoided placing anything important near the date of its release. Instead it barely made a profit. This was rejected by virtually everyone. Reviews were scathing. Countless toys went unsold and sat on shelves for months.

>>84182687
>BROOOOOOOOOOOWN

>>84180031
>any roland emmerich film
>good
Good one, OP.

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This movie gets a lot of shit cuz if feels more like a Jurassic park movie set in New York then it does an actual Godzilla movie. Granted, most Godzilla movies aren't particularly good and are dumb fun to begin with.

>>84183617
I meant the creature. The actual movie has many problems. The marketing campaign is one of the best in our history. It was a huge mistake to release the film on Wednesday because the bad reviews got in before Friday so that crushed all the hopes for the record-breaking first weekend.

>>84183617
It was still relatively successful overseas and it was one of the top grossing movies of the year, so that makes me wonder whether they'd go forward with a sequel if it was released now, pandering to the foreign market.

>>84183691
>Roland Emmerich directed The Patriot

Really makes you think.

>>84180031
Because not muh godzilla. Same reasons people hate JP3 beyond reason because muh Trex.

Both are mediocre as fuck.

>>84181720

Me too. As a black kid growing up I was hit with this new sound and didn't know what to make of it but I fucking loved it.

when the album was bought for me it eventually got me out of rap

>>84181050

I had the remote control godzilla. I was so hype for this movie. Still love it.

90's monster movies are my favorite things to rewatch. Evolution is also a great one

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Uh huh yeah

>>84180031
>Be Roland Emmerich
>Direct Independence Day
>Independence Day becomes the highest grossing movie of 1996
>Tristar offers you their next project, Godzilla
>Don't give a shit about Godzilla
>Your producer partner loves Godzilla and begs you to make the movie in hopes for another smash hit
>Independence Day had that cool destruction scene and Godzilla movies have lots of destruction but that still doesn't make you an ideal choice for the job
>Dean Devlin doesn't give up
>Finally give in but only if you can change the character enough so you could care at least a little bit
>All the changes are approve by Toho, the company that created and owns Godzilla
>Make the movie
>The movie comes out
>Everybody hates it
>You wish you had never agreed to do it and instead would have made a movie about a giant asteroid approaching Earth
>It was your dream project
>Michael Bay makes it instead

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>>84183643
BRICKS

>>84184484
Top kek, he got cucked hard.

>>84184608
>Armageddon becomes the highest grossing movie of 1998, beating the shit out of Godzilla

Fucking sad

>>84180031
>It was much better than the 2014 snorefest

Reddit is that way

>>84180102
>tfw that French secret service arc
Godzilla 1998 is my favorite guilty pleasure. I'm more one for the mood of Godzilla 2014, but the other one is good action and hilarious acting which makes it almost as good.

>>84184673
>Elvis Presley Movies

>>84184484
Lets not forget Jan de Bont, TriStar's previous choice for a director
>big Godzilla fan
>wants to make popcorn movie about Godzilla fighting a new monster with Stan Winston at the helm of the SFX
>make special deal with ILM to guarantee the effects wouldn't go over budget
>years of no progress
>quit because TriStar doesn't think a classic-style Godzilla would work in the US and because they think two main monsters would be too expensive
>they hire Emmerich instead, under whom the movie goes over budget anyway
But at least de Bont got his working fee.

>>84180031
>/tv/ is so contrarian they're now going as low as defending 1998 godzilla
amazing.

>>84183617
That's one of the weirdest things about Roland Emmerich. He somehow always has this great networking set up; pulls off massive promotional campaigns and get toy deals and shit but his movies always end up being cliche loaded, "cool special effects" subpar sci-fi garbage.

Where did investors get off thinking he was a big deal? Universal Soldier?

>>84182259
Men in Black's is better

>>84185003
i always defended it since i went to see it in theaters when i was 6, liked it the entire time

>>84185003
I think most anons here are just comparing it to other Godzilla films. Yes it's a shitty movie but most of the Japanese Godzilla films are even worse.

>>84184301
Didn't Evolution get a cartoon from the same studio that did the Godzilla cartoon?

>>84185060
Stargate. Sleeper hit of 1994 and launched a long running tv show.

>>84180031

It's because this movie was released in a time when good movies were made. So by comparison, it appeared to be a lot worse because all the movies around it were good. Nowadays it's all shit so this movie would fit right in.

>>84181597
They called it Godzilla because that Japanese guy called it that
Presumably because the closest thing to whatever the fuck trashed his sub looked like the Jap Godzilla

>>84185151
Stargate was sub-par compared to the show though.

>>84185117
yes https://youtu.be/Y61h1mOQvhc

>>84180102
I'm not at all a fan of Godzilla and that movie is a piece of shit. Awful cgi that looked bad even for the time. The scene in madison square garden was a jurassic park rip off

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>>84185003
I've always defended it. I literally skipped school when I was a kid to see it in the big screen.

I always said that despite everything and the flaws of the movie (Matthew "Murder" Broderick and the reporter chick being the biggest), Zilla was still the best design ever, leagues ahead anything produced in Japan.

You're a contrarian, autistic """purist""" to deny that. Even the 2014 design is better than the vast majority of Japanese Godzillas.

>>84185259
Yes but it made money. Look at Michael Bay who makes shitty Transformers movies. Why do people still hire him? His shitty Tranformers movies make billions of dollars. That's why.

>>84185275
Wasn't that red creature some sort of sentient entity that existed within the alien genome, which is why he kept returning?

>>84185363
>leagues ahead anything produced in Japan.
gojira, moegoji, biogoji, final goji, and shin all assfuck your retarded iguana six ways from sunday

>apache chase scene
>all the us army en-masse attacks
>the submarine scene

As a kid these scenes were fucking GOAT, so i love the '98 godzilla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBZF7nuoD50

Although the halo jump from the 2014 version was pretty cool.

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>>84185649
>Discussing powerlevel shit when I'm talking about design exclusively
Jesus you Gojirafags are on par with Sonic autists when it comes to your hobby.

Besides, Shin looked like shit. I legit don't get the hype. Wasn't scary or even unsettling.

>>84185801
what's that i hear about there being a director version that's a lot better than the theatrical one? speaking of 2014 ofc

>>84185955
Im talking about design wise you retarded faggot
But I wouldnt expect a tripfag to understand something that was simply typed out for them

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>>84186063
>2 posts in, already bitching about my trip
Exactly what I said: on par with Sonic autists.

>>84185060
Stargate and Independence Day. The latter made almost a billion $$$ (one of the highest grossing films of the 90s) and became staple on television. Naturally studios had faith in him to keep delivering.

>>84180956
>Why is it terrible though?
The characters.

>>84186056
They still haven't released the director's cut and probably never will. You'd assume it's better than the theatrical version but who knows...

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>>84185955
Even from Western critics Shin Godzilla received a better reception than either Hollywood Godzilla flicks. Meanwhile, in Japan, Shin Godzilla was a major box office hit and won seven Japanese Academy Awards. Give up. Most people consider Shin Godzilla to be a good movie.

>>84186285
You can't expect anything other than kino from master Hideaki Anno.

>>84186194
2012 got even closer to the 1 billion mark.

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>>84186285
>Critics
Sharknado is like 80% on RT, that means jackshit.
I've seen Shin. The design was shit, the CGI was shit and don't get me started on the story. Even Final Wars was better.

Jesus, you niggers are really rubbing your dicks to this Shin shit.

>>84185955
The scary thing was not just shin, but the trigger happy burgerus

>>84186845
> Final Wars
> Better

You mean that critical and financial failure that, at best, has an extremely mixed reception even among Godzilla fans?

By like every metric Shin Godzilla is considered a success. Praised by critics. Most attended Japanese Godzilla film since the 60s. Merchandise sold like hotcakes. Showered in awards. And many fans regularly consider it one of the best the franchise has to offer. Look. Obviously the movie wasn't for you. That's fine. But don't pretend your opinion is fact.

As for your example, Sharknado is enjoyed ironically. If you did more than look at a number and actually read the reviews you would see that.

>>84180031
Maybe if you were into Mathew Broderick when you were younger.
I would rather watch the Japanese Gozillas around that time.

>>84181465
God I can already picture the grease and sauce all over your keyboard and on your shirt sitting in your bedroom while your mom serves you chicken tendies. Go outside and get with the groove of the world you social reject.

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>>84181172
> Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2
> GOAT kaiju films
wew

>>84182136
>>84181597
>>84182455
>>84182318
>>84182090

does anyone have a screenshot of the zilla vagina? I don't remember this from the film and am intrigued.

>>84181172
>not including gmk

>>84187572
It was probably on the CGI model, since they tried to mask the entire creature to hide the lower quality CGI there probably isn't a good shot of it in the film.

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Was this guy in the movie? Is he wearing a hat? This bothered me as a kid but I think I'm just looking at it wrong.

>>84186222
Reno is great, so is Moe Syzlak, Mr Burns and the mayor guy.
Only bad ones are Nick and the woman

>>84187908
eh, can kinda see it

>>84187981
How's it supposed to look? I can't see it the right way

>>84188008
what's the wrong way to be seeing it? I only see Zilla

>>84180031
It had the best Gozilla design BY FAR. Everything else looks like shit in comparison

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>>84187107
Ah'sppose.

>>84187119
>You mean that critical and financial failure
Yes, that one. I tried to make a point by naming one of the worst Godzilla movies.

Using critics as a metric is irrelevant. Avatar is the top selling movie of all time (if we don't adjust for inflation and even then it's in the second place). It's pretty much agreed by most people it's shit. You're confusing the fruit of a successful marketing campaign with actual quality.

Why are you so invested in selling me Shin? I don't like it, it being a success won't change that. There's more successful things out there that I dislike. You can yell till you're blue in the face about how it was a big blast with lots of awards, at the end I'll still say "Zilla looked better".

Exactly why are you wasting my time and yours for that matter?

I thought it was great, autistic godzilla fanboys seem to hate it though.

>>84188051
To me it looks like a skull with a hat on. Where are his eyes?

>>84188127
Just to make sure you're not one of those people who gets opinion mixed up with reality. Had to cover all my bases. And taking two minutes to type something out while I wait for other things that matter isn't much time in the grand scheme of things.

> Avatar
> It's pretty much agreed by most people it's shit.
And who are these people?

>first the Prequels and now Godzilla 98
what shitty Windows 95 CGI ridden abortion will /tv/ meme itself into liking next?

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>>84188327
We're talking about a subjective topic. Thank the Modernists for distributing the power of opinion democratically and later on thank retards spouting "Appeal to Authoritah" as a means to discredit every critic in existence. Everything is qualia.
With all that in mind, I'm telling you this isn't a debate. It requires both parties agreeing to change their mind when confronted with """evidence""". As I'm neither willing to do so (nor would you be able to provide objective evidence in a subjective matter) and neither are you, this is a pointless, time wasting piss contest.

>Who are those people
Literally every single human being I have ever spoken to, yours truly included. Are you trying to sway this into a debate about Avatar?

Why not make it about films I truly care, then? So you get some investment from me.

>>84180031
It awful.

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>>84188700
Yes. I'm aware there's a great deal of subjectivity in the realm of critiquing. But how are supposed to gauge the quality of a film? The amount of money it generates? The number of critics or members of the general audience who give it a positive review? Winning a certain number of prestigious awards? Whether or not a film gets a pleasurable reaction out of you? Production value?

Just out of curiosity, what do you consider the best of the medium and why do you feel that way about them?

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>>84180102
>All the hate are from fanboys

Gee maybe A FUCKING MOVIE THAT IS PART OF AN ESTABILISHED SERIES SHOULD CATER TO THE FUCKING FANS OF THAT ESTABILISHED SERIES
WHAT A NOVEL IDEA

Bet you're the same pieces of shit that cry all over this board when a franchise YOU like is bastardized.

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>>84188276
here you go

>>84180031
I like both

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>>84189162
I don't do that anymore. In 2012 I had my music organised by genre, "best artists", "best albums", what have you. It was eclectic in terms of variety but very rigid in terms of "rating" and quality sorting. If you ask me today what I listen to I'll just show you my phone or my last.fm because I've gotten to the point where I don't even have a favourite band or singer.

Something similar happened with movies, I used to force myself to watch Arthouse shit because I thought that time was precious and it shouldn't be wasted with anything that isn't quality. You know this infographics that used to get posted on /tv/ with lists of films. You'd see names like Vilgot Sjöman, Claude Chabrol, Godard, Jean Cocteau, Rossellini and all these other assholes most people who watch movies as a means to relax (which is most people, really) don't really know about. I'd go out of my way to watch Cinéma d'auteur bullshit because I thought it'd add to my character. I was a teenager whilst doing this mind you.

Nowadays if you asked me about my favourite movies I'd probably say Conan, Time of the Gypsies, Trainspotting, Control, The 13th Warrior, Mad Max 2 and maybe The Last Battle. A week later that answer might change. This is all to say that I don't "rate" movies anymore in the same way I used to, I rate them based on the enjoyment I got out of them (be it "fun", intellectual stimulation, putting me in a good mood, whatever). I can "get" the message from the vast majority of critically acclaimed films (well known or "underrated" by the general public), but if I take no enjoyment out of the film I'll consider it garbage.

Tl;dr the quality of a film is a matter of personal intuition. Nothing more, nothing less. You enjoyed it, it's good. You didn't, it's not good and there's no need to force yourself to think otherwise because critics disagree. My two cents, I suppose.

>>84187908
>>84187981
>>84188008
>>84188051
>>84188276
>>84189557
what the fuck are you people talking about

>>84189557
Is he screaming?

>>84189701
>I used to force myself to watch Arthouse shit

Honest question: are you mentally retarded?
Do you think people make artsy movies to be pretentious and that's it?
Do you think people watch artsy movies to be pretentious and that's it?

For fuck sake your mental gymnastics to excuse your own pleb brain are amazing.
Being a pleb isn't "this guy doesn't watch kino", it's literally what you described, an individual that is born a pleb, remains and pleb and forces himself to watch kino to pretend he's not a pleb.

>>84180102
yeah just turn off your fucking brain for 2 hours you stupid fucks

>>84189798
As I understand, someone thought a low-res image of Zilla from the front looked like a skeleton person wearing a hat. Quality discourse.

>>84189701
>I rate them based on the enjoyment I got out of them (be it "fun", intellectual stimulation, putting me in a good mood, whatever). I can "get" the message from the vast majority of critically acclaimed films (well known or "underrated" by the general public), but if I take no enjoyment out of the film I'll consider it garbage.
That's what I do but my asshat friend can't grasp the concept of that. I said I loved the new Power Rangers movie because it made me feel good. And he just kept bringing up critics and box office numbers. It's also why I don't judge people anymore for their tastes. If it makes them happy, who cares

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>>84189942
Sounds like a triggered yet another autistic "YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?" dummy.

Call me a pleb all you want, understanding a film isn't going to make me enjoy it more. Plus, you're pretending the decision making of a teenager who is (like all teenagers) on an active process of individualisation and individuation is not common at all. You like to pretend you and only you were a genuine human being from the start to finish to mask your own insecurities instead of owning up to them, which rather pathetic considering how much you're sperging out over this.

>Pretentious
Never once did I use that word. Seems like you read the post and stopped half-way through. This is yet another one of your insecure projections stemming from a deep hatred for yourself.

Answer me this, have you ever been with a woman? To make things clearer so you don't play a game of intellectual dishonesty with yourself: have you ever been with a woman sexually?

>>84190087
>It's also why I don't judge people anymore for their tastes
It's that alright. I unironically enjoy Mean Girls and there's nothing anyone can do about it. It takes a special kind of autist to go out of his way to segment things into categories of "pleb" and "patrician" when it comes to these matters. I'd understand if we were talking about something that can quantified and measured, but this?

It's a means of enjoyment and stimuli, nothing else.

Can anyone explain me whats the appeal of jap gojira? Is it supposed to be a horror movie? action? comedy?
They all look silly and goofy as fuck. I understand the american ones are shit, but pretending the japanese is any better is irrational to me.

>>84190653
Have you actually sat down and watched any of the movies with an open mind? Did you watch the right ones? For instance, would it be fair to watch Superman IV and judge Superman: The Movie, Superman: The Animated Series, and Man of Steel and sweep them under the rug?

>>84190653
Are there not any monster movies you enjoy?

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>>84191675
fuck off retards

As a The Beast of 20000 fathoms remake is TOP

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>>84191730
your elementary school tier insult has no value here, m80

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>>84184111
>As a black kid
Sort yourself out

>>84191730
It's a question

The only bad thing the movie has is the name

>>84180031
Nah, this movie is shit. Particularly sucky even for blockbusters.

I liked the constantly rainy New York setting, it was comfy.

>>84192826
Godzilla fans despised it, mainstream audiences rejected it (little if any repeat business), studio executives wanted to postpone its release to make some major adjustments (Emmerich only completed it right before deadline and there was no time for an overhaul), and critics ripped it apart. This movie had one of the largest promotion campaigns in the history of film and it at best broke even. The merchandise went unsold after it released and obviously stores were upset. What more do you need to accept it was a failure?

>>84192976
Agreed. And I was fond of the John Williams inspired score too. Doesn't get enough love. One of the best imitations of the legend.

>>84193445
But because of the name
It should ve been the beast from 20000 fathoms

>>84187908
tip, tip m'lady

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This thread...

>>84180031
Who cares? Is just a fucking godzilla movie not the seventh seal

>When the plebs can't understand the master's greatness

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They even used a rubber suit in some of the scenes.

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The greatest marketing campaign for a movie. Period.

>>84194575
pleb detected

>>84180131
don't forget he even tried singing on it too.

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This was the best Godzilla.

>>84180031
I liked it.
>>84184673
The French Secret service arc was pretty cool.
>>84182255
Now that you have filled the thread with pics of zilla, I don't like the design any more. I think this is better>>84182243

i used to hate it but now im neutral. if you like it fine if you hate it fine. Its just a dumb movie in the godzilla franchise. As much as i love godzilla it has its shitty movies. Not everything in a 25 plus movie franchise will be good.

>>84180031
Agreed. It's a fun movie that was undeservedly pilloried. Is it a good movie? No. But it did not deserve to be singled out as uniquely bad while the average Hollywood blockbuster, in reality equally bad, gets a pass.

>>84181465
I'm pretty sure "GOAT" comes from sports fandom and has always meant "Greatest of all Time". As in, "Michael Jordan is the GOAT".

anyone have good pics/can point out the vagina in this model? I'm not seeing it desu

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>>84184437
I just realized how much of other people's music he uses..

>>84184568
what does this have to do with godzilla

>>84180031
Well, for starters it has Mathew Broderick in it. That guy is a blackhole of charisma, any movie that he's in suddenly becomes the most boring thing ever.

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>>84184111
Found the BLACKED poster

>>84183617
One of my clearest memories of this movie from when I was a kid is of the ubiquity of the toys. They were everywhere, dominating toy shelves, gas station knickknack racks, Burger King kid's meals, etc. And it stayed that way for an entire summer. Never seen anything like that since, but then I haven't paid any attention to toys or movies marketed to kids so maybe that kind of massive merchandising campaign is normal.

>>84197328
""""sampling""""

tbf he does it really well

>People think Godzilla 98 is hated by all Godzilla fans
kek

Nah, the general consensus with Godzilla fans is that it's fine as it's own thing, but a shit representation of what Godzilla is.
They mostly think the movie is alright and that Zilla was cool as it's own monster but not as THE Godzilla.