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Why do all e-celeb friendships always end in drama?

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Why do all e-celeb friendships always end in drama?
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wat happened
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>>83939182
Wtf do you expect he fucked his dog
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isn't mark just not editing for him anymore? I didn't know they had a fight
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>>83939283
He fucked mark's dog
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ALCOHOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NXLIiFDHVQ
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>>83939248
>>83939298

Where did you read that?
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>>83939453
He told it to the world on a stream
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>>83939466

Link?
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>>83939482
>please spoofeed me it's my first day on the internet
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>>83939182
Is that Adam Johnston from YMS (YourDogSuckMyCockdotORG) who is a bestiality loving hipsterfuck?
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His worldview that animals can consent to having sex pretty much, in part, turned me into an ethical vegan (because clearly animals can't consent to being fucked, they can't consent to being killed and eaten either).
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>>83939525
Big boy got a new keyboard, huh?
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>>83939283
Mark is an unfunny idiot, so nothing of value was lost.
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>>83939511

>I'm epic trolling

K fag, thanks for wasting time
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>>83939549
Or, as stronger animals we can do what we wish to weaker animals.
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what's worse, his bestiality or his ""music""? genuinely can't deicde
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>>83939182
Is there a video or post detailing everything that happened?
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>>83939634

No because OP pulled it out of his ass.
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>>83939614
That's grossly immoral.
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>>83939298
Yeah but he consented when he licked all that peanut butter out of Adam's butthole
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>>83939664
animals don't have morals and would gladly eat you. Get back to me when a pig or chicken writes code of laws
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>>83939614
Including fucking them
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>>83939845
>We're smarter therefore we have the right to murder

How do you sleep at night?
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>>83939634
twitch

/videos/150981311?t=03h16m00s
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>>83939937
thanks
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>>83939999
oh shit quads
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>>83939927
On pillows made from goose feathers after eating half a steak and throwing the other half away.

Fuck your animals, cunt.
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>>83940044
dub dubs
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>>83939927
Murder is a man-made concept, it does not apply to animals.
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>>83939937
Does he say in the vid that he fucked his dog?
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>>83939927
>i cant do it
>i literally cant
>it's too much I can't take it

wtf did happened?
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>>83940061
Oh, no argument only anger huh?

>>83940079
Completely arbitrary definition. Murder is pre-meditated killing of another sentient being. What is the difference between a human and a cow? We're human and a cow isn't?
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>>83940125
His dog's penis was too big for Adam
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You guys just memeing or what? He really fucked a dog and said so?
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Is this Adam from YMS (YourMovieSucks.org)? Did you know that he enjoys unconsented sex with animals?
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>>83940219
Do you enjoy unconsented beef from cows?
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>>83940148
>Completely arbitrary definition.

It's not. Murder literally means "unlawful killing of a person". Most animal killings are not considered a crime.
The difference between a human and a cow is that (most) humans are higher in the food chain.
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>>83940311
>It's not. Murder literally means "unlawful killing of a person".

Oh, why?
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>>83940192
>He really fucked a dog and said so?
He said something along the lines if you are fine with eating animals you should be fine with people fucking animals.
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>>83940350
Ok but he didn't fuck this guy Mark's dog right?
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>>83940402
It wouldn't go against his beliefs so I am not sure.
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>no more adum n merk watch
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>>83940327
>Why does murder mean what it means?

I don't know, ask a criminal law expert.
I'll stop being autistic for a moment, and presume you mean premeditated killing. Primary reasons for killing animals: 1) Food. 2) They're pests.
You might argue that ending the life of a sentient being is morally wrong, no matter the reason, to which I ask, why should I care?
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>>83940530
>It's not arbitrary
>but I can't explain why murder is reserved for humans

also

>why should I care to not do immoral things?

Seek a therapist, immediately.
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>>83940610
Could you please come over and fuck me in ass? I lost the argument and would appreciate if you rutted me.
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>>83940653
Another vegan created
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>>83939937
>Cryptic assertions that he "can't do it anymore" and that what Mark's doing is "bullshit" without actually delving into the issue
Okay
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>>83940610
>Explain to me why a textbook law definition is what it is.

>And killing animals is bad because I feel bad about it.

Every supermarket in the world is loaded with killed animals. Is every butcher a psycho then?

Allrighty then.
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Hopefully Mark goes on to do let's plays, he was the funniest in those videos. His Halloween videos were top notch
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Post his horsedildo collection or his """music"""
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>>83940870
>horsedildo collection
You're kidding right?
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>>83940810
>thing is written in a book
>I don't have to explain it or defend it loll because it's in a book and most people accept it lol

Explain why 'murder' is killing a human and not an animal in your own words.
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this is probably going to be some really trivial shit like Mark having a tantrum over editing or mocking Adam for liking horsecock
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>>83940928
No
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>>83940963
Murder implies malice you fuck nuts
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>>83940928
Nah
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welp looks like I can't watch anymore AdumPlazes, they're insanely fucking boring without Merk
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>>83940928
Adam "Doggy Style" Johnston
Adam "Red Rocket in his Pocket" Johnston
Adam "No whores, just those on all fours" Johnston
Adam "The Canadian Dog Fucker Extraordinaire" Johnston
Adam "Animals Can Consent" Johnston
Adam "Man's Best Friend With Benefits" Johnston
Adam "If There's Fur On The Field Play Ball" Johnston
Adam "Industrial Sized Tub of Peanutbutter" Johnston
Adam "Give The Dog a Bone" Johnston
Adam "Eat-the-puss, Rex" Johnston
Adam "Fido Can't Say No" Johnston
Adam "The Feller' for Old Yeller" Johnston
Adam "Give a Dog a bone" Johnston
Adam "Licking Lassie" Johnston
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>>83940852
DOG COCK
NOT EVEN ONCE
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>>83941037
>taking the life of another creature that clearly does not want to die and thrashes around and screams in terror as you kill it
>that's not malice
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>>83941058
What the fuck?
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>>83941089
Give the dog a bone is in there twice.
Good post apart from that.
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>>83939182
why does his profile pick look so unpleasant?
he looks like a constipated autist
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>>83940148
There was nothing to argue. He was asked how he slept at night and he answered. Personally, I envy the meat I eat because they're no longer alive in the same plane of existence as high-horse riding vegans.
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>>83941135
you don't want to open this
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>>83941163
>I envy the meat I eat because they're no longer alive

And yet you haven't killed yourself, hypocrite.
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>>83941058

so this is where the patreon money goes
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>>83941096
But I didn't murder the animal, I just ate a part of its buttocks. checkmate.
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>>83941089
>Adam "Industrial Sized Tub of Peanutbutter" Johnston
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>>83941096
>needs to engage in graphic hyperbole to convince people to not eat meat
Do you also prevent carnivorous animals from eating other animals?
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>>83941193
Because that's for quitters. Obviously. I prefer the slow death of eating fried food until my body stops functioning, as God intended.
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>>83941196
>I know it's wrong but I got out of it via this silly loophole haha

Why don't you have some intellectual integrity? If you go out and buy meat to consume you are giving tacit approval for the murder of animals.

>>83941246
Carnivorous animals don't possess reason like we do. Also

>Don't bring up the fact that animals are brutally killed because that sounds too graphic
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>>83940125
>>83940701
Apparently Mark was bad at keeping deadlines, aaaaand that's about it.

No one why Adam seems to be in near tears about it though.
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I think I'm going to stop watching him altogether.
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>>83941291
>I find nothing morally wrong with manipulating others to my side using anything and everything at my disposal.
The only problem is that it doesn't work. When done right, manipulation can work, but when you're as subtle as dynamite, people can tell that they're being manipulated and go against what their being manipulated to believe.

>eating meat is an instinct in carnivores, but sapient omnivores are morally obligated to not eat meat
Good luck getting that to work while nations are killing their own species on a daily basis. If we can't stop killing one another, how do you think we'll ever get to stop killing animals to provide sustenance?
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>>83941386
He said that he's been keeping quiet for Mark's sake because the shit he was doing is just "embarrassing". So either it's an issue that goes beyond work ethic, or he's blowing things way out of proportion.
I don't think he'd say multiple times that he was "considering suicide" if it's just about his editor not doing his job.
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>>83941386
Adam said he still paid him the money despite Mark doing no work. Adam didn't need know no videos were being edited at that time.
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>>83941291
>If you go out and buy meat to consume you are giving tacit approval for the murder of animals.

Okay, let's say you're a completely deranged psychopath for eating meat, working in the meat industry, or allowing this to happen (government). That means that most people in the world are psychos, and morally wrong. Who are you to say that most people in our society are morally inferior to yourself?
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>>83941478
Killing people is wrong, killing animals is wrong. Saying that animals are brutally killed and thrash around and scream in terror is not manipulation, it's the truth, that's what animals do when they feel like they are about to die, like in a killhouse for cows.

>People are going to keep doing X thing anyway! So why should I stop doing X thing? Why change anything ever?
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>>83941386
Well people being lazy is what drove that ember guy to go on a shooting spree.
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I never understood vegans who go out of their way to argue with literally everyone else, when killing animals to eat is essentially nature.
Nothing against vegans aswell, if it makes you feel better and shit, go ahead.

Hopefully we can find common ground in agreeing that dog fucking is disgusting and "huur duur they can't consent to getting killed either" is a terrible argument.
One day, the notorious internet criminal Adam "Your movie sucks doggy dick" Johnson will be apprehended. One day.
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>>83941575
>Who are you to say that most people in our society are morally inferior to yourself?

Well, I haven't personally spoken to those people, but I've spoken to a few of you in this thread and I feel morally superior to you, hearing the many shitty excuses for eating meat ITT such as

>Animals eat meat, why don't we act like animals and stop wearing clothes or having social norms too?
>just sheer nihilism 'nothing can ever change'

>>83941649
>Wahh don't challenge my life position let me do whatever I want
>see above, what is natural is what we should do in life?
>stop wearing clothes and try to impregnate as many females as humanly possible
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>>83940870
ah yes, the music that's so bad that blondie made a cover of it
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>>83941649
What about people who masturbate dogs for money?
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>>83941579
Except you're wrong. Not surprising since you wouldn't be caught dead in a slaughter house. Most places kill them quickly, you know, since they're on a deadline to get that meat into stores. Only the shittiest of places kill inefficiently, and trust me you don't want to eat their meat unless you're on a serious budget.

I know it steams your buns that the whole entire world will still keep eating animals long after you're dead, but pull your head out of your ass. As the world is, there is no way that the human race will ever go vegan in the next 100 years.

By not eating meat, you let those animals die for nothing. And you say we're bad for eating them? I'm going to go cook some bacon and eat it not just for me, but for you as well. You're welcome.
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>it is a vegan thinks the homo sapiens isn't an animal again episode
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>>83941731
>I feel morally superior to you
For someone who claims to be a vegan, you sure love cramming as much cock into your gaping mouth as you can.
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>>83941740
what?
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>it is a vegan thinks that humans are the only animals who use tools or clothes again episode
>it is a reprise
KILL THE BEAVERS FOR THEIR DAMS IT IS NOT NATURAL
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>>83941786
>They kill them instantly so it's okay

They don't want to be killed. What gives anyone the right to kill them?

>People do X thing
>regardless of whether it's right or wrong, without considering it, I'm just going to continue doing it, because everyone else does it anyway
>why change anything ever?

>>83941844
>>83941914
What? These are pure strawmen, they don't even begin to represent my argument.

>Animals do an X thing
>Therefore, we should do X thing

That does not logically follow, sorry.
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>>83941731
>implying I need an excuse to eat meat
>implying 80% of societal norms aren't immoral to a degree
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>>83941731
>I feel morally superior to you

You didn't need to say that, it was obvious from the start. Maybe you should start killing people that eat meat. They deserve it after all.
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>>83941876
the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBlxSwFM4xk
the cover by blondie, aka, the band that made the song "one way or another"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S41vwktphE
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>bestiality
>bad
didn't know you were such plebs, /tv/
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>>83941963
He thinks the homo sapiens is the same as all animals hahaha

lemme just suck my energy from green algae inside my limestone skeleton

vegans are so dumb holy shit
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>>83942001
>blondie are 'the band that made the song one way or another'
>not 'the band that invented rap music'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9kDW3y268Y
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>>83941975
>I don't need an excuse to kill things that don't want to be killed simply because I can
>implying 80% of societal norms aren't immoral to a degree

Such as? Other than eating meat, since we know that.

>>83941979
Why do people that eat meat deserve to be killed or where did I ever say that? Changing their mind is enough. So extreme. Eating meat isn't a problem, killing animals to produce it is and it should be stopped. That doesn't necessitate killing anyone. Sheesh.
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>>83942024
This isn't /co/
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>>83942136
>>>/mu/
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>>83942180
>Eating meat isn't a problem, killing animals to produce it is
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>>83941963
>What gives anyone the right to kill them?

Why do you keep talking about the right to kill? Who's right? Did you ask permission to be alive? You do realize that just by being alive you're constantly killing other sentient beings, right? Your lifestyle, no matter how organic, or vegan, influences the lives of thousands of animals. Many of them die as an (in)direct result of you.
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>>83942218
But I'm not posting cartoons!
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>>83942180
>owning pets AKA animal slavery
>war AKA
>clothing made from animal skins
>circumcision

Just to name a few.
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>>83942255
>>>/mlp/
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>>83939590
You fucking idiot he's open about his bestiality. He even did a le reddit AMA where he said he wants to suck dog dicks and get assfucked by dogs and it should be legal because people eat meat. He's a degenerate furfag who will yiff in Hell.
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I just wanna say that I love meat.
Like goddamn it's the greatest fucking thing to eat a 10/10 burger.
I can't even imagine what it's like to close yourself from this type of wonder for whatever reason.

that is all, thanks
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>>83942247
>trying to teach ecology to a vegan
Just stop, the man is clearly a blessed angel above and not part of nature, he isn't even an animal like us.
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>>83942180
>Changing their mind is enough

And if that doesn't work?
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>>83939664
>mo·ral·i·ty
>a particular system of values and principles of conduct, especially one held by a specified person or society.
incase you're unaware, all you're saying is: I don't like that
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Is it weird that I find his dogfucking way more disgusting because he wants to fuck and suck male dogs?
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>it's okay to neuter animals and force them to wear collars and give them shots and do whatever else you want to them without consent
>somehow the harmless act of them licking penut butter off a part of your body, an exchange in which no one is hurt, is forbidden because it feels good

never really understood this
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>>83942341
No. He's a faggot.
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>>83942373
>I don't know the benefits of neutering pets
>I don't know the malefices of fucking pets

I swear to god, I find everyone that isn't from the biologics area incredibly dumb.
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>>83941963
There are amino acid chains you only really get from eating meat.
You need to follow incredibly strict dietary regimens and see a doctor regularly if you want to attempt to be a vegan.
Sure sounds natural and healthy.
Even then you have a significant chance of your hair falling out and shit. I lived in the Bay Area for a long time and you can tell the longtime vegans by how fucking odd they look and how frail their hair is getting.
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>>83942373
You could justify pedophilia the same way. The simple truth is that it's repugnant and that indicates the person is a deviant and therefore not 'reliable' in a macro sense.
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>>83942466
i never said fucking a dog, i said a dog giving a person oral sex. what is wrong or harmful about that exchange?
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>mfw I know a pro choice vegan irl
Really makes me think
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>>83942475
Well, I don't really consider it because I am an ethical vegan, I don't see a way out of it and still be able to not have massive cognitive dissonance. My own health concerns are trumped by other sentient creatures right to live. I can get by without meat and general animal products, people have been doing it for a long time. It's discipline, for me.
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>>83942519
>why is it bad for an animal that has a totally different immunologic system to lick your shart hole

this is how you sound to me
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>>83941963
So by that logic, I can eat jellyfish because they don't have brains. Or will that make you cry. If so, why are you okay with eating vegetables? It's the same thing as eating a jellyfish, only easier and probably somewhat better tasting.
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>>83942559
kek
fucking degenerate
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>tfw you realize that a discussion about the morality of dogfucking and the pros and cons of being vegan is on the front page of /tv/
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>>83942373
Because I, like most people, find such behavior disgusting, it makes us feel sick. However, that is not a sufficient reason to make something illegal, so we need to victimize the animals.
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>Reading that twitch chat

It's like reading a reddit thread or whatever they are called. This is gay as fuck. All while some queer doghomo whines cryptically. Fucking hell.
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>>83942373
We neuter them so they don't get loose and make hundreds of animals that inevitably need to be put down. Shots prevent diseases.
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>>83942519
What's so hard about getting a human to do the same thing?
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>>83940852
I gotta go tell /fit/ that dog jizz is apparently great for bulking.
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>>83942575
So you're an animal cuck.
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>>83942597
>tfw it's your first on 4chan and you out yourself as a newfag
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>>83941089
>Adam "Man's Best Friend With Benefits" Johnston
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>>83942597
YMS threads in a nutshell
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>>83942650
When he preps the bull, it's a real bull.
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>>83942341
don't think Adam's ever said he was a bestialityfag, he owns horse dildos but as far as I know he still finds the actual thing disgusting
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>>83942591
Well yeah, jellyfish are fine, do people actually eat jellyfish? Do you get anything out of it? They don't have a brain, a nervous system or anything, I don't think they feel pain. Everything we know about jellyfish seems to indicate they are not sentient.

>>83942650
I just don't think it's okay to kill things that don't want to be killed. You do apparently.
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>>83942024
>>83942255
Yes, but are they an athlete?
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>>83942652
>tfw being surprised with the content of a thread makes you a newfag in the eyes of a manlet
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>>83942781
I'm sure the animals are truly thankful that you're willing to live a shitty life just so that they might live a few seconds more before they die from outside forces beyond your control.
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>>83942756

He all but said it in his reddit thing. He was skirting saying he blew a dog because he didn't want to get arrested.
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>>83942833
is this athletic?
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>>83941386
Thats a big neck.
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>>83940125
>>83940852
>>83941386
Did Adam come onto him and get rejected?
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>"I just have to stop trusting these people with my wrists. I have to stop walking around with my wrists out and handing these people knives. Knives to cut my wrists. That's what I have to do at this point."

Why are all mentally ill faggots so fucking overdramatic?
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>>83940402
The dog fucking is a meme that came out of him more or less defending levels of beastiality with animals in heat. He is a furry though and nobody cares.
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Mister Metokur video when?
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>>83942518
you cant justify pedophillia in the same way because we dont raise children to be house pets. Dog do not grow up to be cognoscente beings that have to make complex choices, they are cared for and pampered their whole lives. and we do faaar far worse shit to dogs than a mutual exchange of food/feelings, like crawl under vans and defuse bombs. In no way will a dogs
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>>83942247
So then don't cry about abortion either.
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>>83943011
He's working on the TGWTG crew for now. I'd also like him to do that minecraft fetish guy.
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>>83940852
Is this Egoraptor?
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>>83943072
Literally nobody ITT talked about abortion, but ok, thanks for the input.
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>>83943010
>He's a furry
>Dog fucking is just a meme though
Suuuuure.
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>>83941058
I bought a horse dildo from bad-dragon and it's way too uncomfortable to use. Feelsbadman.
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3:35:00 to hear him take a dig at Spoony.

Is there a chance we might get a long haired lazy mentally ill internet retard fight out of this? It would really make me happy.
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>>83943129
It was gonna happen, moralfags can't help themselves.
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This is what atheism does to you.
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>>83943145

inb4 Spoony comes home from the psychiatrist to find his house has been broken into and finds Oreo laying on the floor with an eviscerated butthole saying "DADDEH WHY?!"
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>>83943141
What's it like?
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>>83943145
Spoony's too much of a lethargic fuck to invest time in anything other than tweeting and drinking, Adam at least has some semblance of drive.
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>>83943195
Meanwhile religion has the largest population of pedophiles. Humanity was a lost cause eons ago.
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>>83943195
Remind me how many terror attacks are currently being done by Atheists.
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>>83943195
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>>83943256
>Meanwhile religion has the largest population of pedophiles

Source?
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A good friend of him also died in a fire and he learned it while streaming (cutting Snydoche part 5) and was talking about it
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>>83943278
What has that got to do with it?
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>>83943256
I wonder which religion you are referring to?
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>>83943195
My grandfather barely escaped being raped by a pastor as a kid. He had to keep his mouth shut because it was a small town. You can imagine why.
Yes, religion is so nice.
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>>83943145
2017 will be the Year of the Spoon. He's going to get off twitter and release a bunch of reviews and content, win back his old fans, and get that patreon up. He's going to start streaming again and deliver witty commentary in the background. He's going to improve his mental and physical health. He's going to catch up on all of the patreon rewards he's years behind on, finally release that DVD he's been promising, and finally get started on that movie. He's going to do everything he promised in this video, nearly 3 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD4bvwEDnrs

Just you wait lads, Year of the Spoon is upon us
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>>83943314
That you are boogeymaning probably the most sane, peaceful group of people on the fucking planet just to derail into a moralfag fuck fest.
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>>83943223
A little floppy, they have a varying hardness you can choose from.
The flare on the tip is too big, though. It feels like your insides are being gouged out.
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>>83943293
>needs a source for common knowledge
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Internet friend surrogacy is weird
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>>83943365
What size did you get? Also, how did it fit in your butthole?
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>>83943318
Probably the one where nearly over a hundred pastors were arrested for Pope-sanctioned child molesting?
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>>83943318
All of them
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can someone give me a quick rundown on who spoon is
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>>83943422
/our guy/
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>>83943355

Atheists are throwing stones in glass houses. When a Christian follows his philosophy to its logical conclusion, they don't rape kids. When an atheist follows his philosophy to its logical conclusion, they shove bananas up their ass and rape dogs because there's no reason not to.
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>>83943382
So you're full of shit. Cool. I'm not even a religious person it just seems really fucking retarded for you to make a blanket statement like that without any proof.
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>>83943409
Yeah that's pretty bad, I thought you meant the one where the prophet was a pedophile and they have entire societies where pedophilia is normal, but yeah a hundred also bad.
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>>83943405
this

go the fuck outside once in a while
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>>83943454
>When an atheist follows his philosophy to its logical conclusion, they shove bananas up their ass and rape dogs because there's no reason not to.

Damn, which chapter in the atheist bible is that???
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>>83943409

You sure it's not the one where they ritualistically suck the cocks of babies, or do you not know that one because you haven't seen any movies about it you literal retard?
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>>83943360
spoony fans are so pathetic
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>>83943454
>needing an old book written by long dead arabs to give yourself a moral code
or
>doing the right thing because IT'S THE RIGHT THING YOU FUCKNUT
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>>83943422
There is no spoon.
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>>83943454
These are astronomical reaches, it's almost as if you have no argument.
>logical conclusion of Atheism
Is literally nothing at all you stupid faggot. Show me atheist terror attacks, show me atheist child sex rings, show me atheist jihads

Oh, abloo abloo he stuck a banana up his ass! Surely that's the same thing.
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>>83943494
*distant allahu akbar*
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>/r/Atheism tips up the thread

Well it was fun while it lasted.
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>>83943514

Follows logically from the rejection of objective morality. If we're just stardust there's no reason not to fuck a dog.

>>83943553

How do you define the right thing? Without God you can't. Not in any objective way.
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>>83943553
>morality is objective
>being this stupid
>implying you dont need to be told what to do
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>>83943494
All religion is bad, this isn't a fucking contest. Way more Christian child rape in the US than Muslim.
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>>83941089
>>83941058
I'm going to regret asking, but here goes: What's that white tube wrapped around the dildoes for?
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>>83943524
Literally what in the fuck are you even talking about? Which stormfront article told you that?
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>>83943614
>Way more Christian child rape in the US than Muslim

lel sure there is shitskin. Muslims literally think it's okay to rape small boys.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi
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>>83943640
They are to dispense cum-like lubricant into the user's anus.
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>>83943614
>more rape from the majority population than the minority
yeah dude guess everything is bad and we shouldn't put any real thought into anything, don't pay attention to the axioms of the religions or anything.
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>>83943585
There is no objective morality, kiddo. That's fine though. You act like there has to be.
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I love how easily these philosophically illiterate atheists get triggered. They cannot be reasoned with.
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>>83943585
Actually you can.

>Would I allow this thing to be done to me? No? Then I better not do it to this guy.

You treat others the way you'd want to be treated. Not because some dickhead in the clouds tells you to or you'll suffer in some made up eternity of pain and misery.
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>>83943585
>How do you define the right thing?

Pretty easy, treat people like you want to be treated yourself.
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>>83943585
>If we're just stardust there's no reason not to fuck a dog.

Well, because the dog can't give consent, and usually shows signs to the opposite, it doesn't want to be fucked.

Conversely, if you follow one of say, the sects of Christian church, why not just do whatever you want and then ask for forgiveness as you die? Christianity itself is highly immoral, Original Sin itself is immoral, the story of Genesis and the fruit of knowledge of good and evil is immoral.
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>>83943667
>>83943682
Holy shit bud, you need to relax with your imaginary conversations. I just said all religion is bad. Not once did I condone Islam. Christian Bible allows rape and child marriage too. All the Abrahamic faiths do.
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>>83943696
>>83943720

What if I'm okay with cutting my own arm off. Can then I grab my saw and do it whoever I please? I am following the golden rule after all.
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>>83943667
Bacha bazi is an Aghan tradition, not a Muslim one.
The Taliban punished it by death when they were ruling large portions of Afghanistan.
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>>83943690
>kiddo
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>>83943696
If you losers are going to treat me nicely, why wouldn't I lie cheat steal and exploit you gullible retards?
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>>83943692
>claiming Atheists can't be reasoned with
>MY GOD IS REAL AND I DON'T NEED PROOF BECAUSE FAITH!!!
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>>83943585
If it's objective then what's with all the varying interpretations and disagreements?
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>>83943753
Great argument.
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>>83943647
>Shlomo pushing the disinfo and shrinking back when his sick religion is called out

Wow how surprising. For anyone not buying this kike's lies do yourself a favor and google "Metzitzah B'Peh".
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>>83943725

So consent is what matters? Would you say that dads fucking their adults sons is wrong? Go ahead and be honest and show everybody what atheists really believe.
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>>83943754
Because you're supposed to be the publicly moral one, therefore you wouldn't do that. If you do, your own argument falls on its tits.
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>>83943777
Because it isn't.
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>>83943770
>Wasting time arguing about a subject that can't be proven correct in either direction
lel
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>>83943745

>Moving the goalposts

This is why no one takes you faggots seriously. I don't believe in shit but I'd side with the Christfags before I sided with you edgy losers any day.
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>>83943745
got proof? seems you might be wrong
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/8559/on-what-basis-should-christians-oppose-child-marriage
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>>83943777

Disagreements are over facts of the matter, not the underlying morality.
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>>83943820
>wasting time on a gook forum
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>>83943747
Yes, you can.
Then we'll lock you up in jail.

Do you see how this is actual reflection of reality?
We don't operate from a unanimous code of morals. We come together as a civilization, vote on it, then punish those who don't follow it.
We regularly update, add, remove things as time goes on. If it was some inherent morality in all humans, this wouldn't be necessary.
Also notice how different these laws and punishments are across the world. It is all subjective.
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>>83939525
dontfuckmydog.com
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>>83943813
what are you talking about? I'm just pointing out from a game theory perspective your objective morality principle is flawed.
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>>83943585
>Not in any objective way.
Which is why for example suicide is literally the worst thing one can do in Christianity (to the point that murdering a child to get the death penalty and then confessing is more acceptable) but is absolutely central to Japanese social history to the point that it's one of the prime examples of giri.
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>>83943784
How long is it going to take to clean all the Cheeto dust you got on your keyboard from typing that?
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>>83943640
tube for fake cum, he shoots it inside his ass
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>>83942641
the protein per gram can't be beat
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>>83943799
>Would you say that dads fucking their adults sons is wrong?

It really depends on the situation, if you're providing a serious hypothetical and I know nothing about the situation, no, that's not wrong. If I found out the dad groomed the boy since childhood to be some kind of sexual slave, that's different. Highly unusual, yes, wrong, I don't think so. Certainly not worthy of any kind of punishment or attempt at stopping them.

If the son and dad had a perfectly normal relationship and hadn't seen each other in a long time and had no history of having sex, and they just so happened to do it, you would say that's wrong? How far would you go to stop it from happening a second time? What would you do?
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>>83941058
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>>83943830
I have no clue what the fuck you are on about you triggered faggot, I have continued to say that all religions are bad and this isn't a contest.
>I side with Christfags to spite Atheists
What a gutless piece of shit you must be
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>>83943869
dontfuckmydogger.com
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>>83943860

If morality is truly relative, why is there not a single society in all of history that has ever reviled bravery and praised cowardice? Surely there would be at least one case of this happening.
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>>83941291
" dont hit wilson you bastard! His my only friend!!!
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>>83939182
narcissists can't be friends with eachother
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>>83943754
>>83943770

Because the LAW
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>>83943851
Touche
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>>83943833
>got proof that the Bible condones child marriage?
It's got a lot more in it than that, bud. Did you honestly fall for that "Bible is peaceful" autism? It condones rape, genocide, murder, slavery and child marriage.

I can give you the passages and you can fuck off with your stack exchange links. The question isn't if modern Christians condone it, it's if the Bible talks about it.
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>>83943909

You moved the goalposts because you're fucking retarded. Now you're triggered as fuck and calling someone you don't even know a coward based on their beliefs, which are the same as yours. Literally fucking retarded.
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>>83943886
they you should beat faster
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>>83943920
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean, are you retarded?
There are "brave" people that do fucking horrible shit all the time.
Shoot up a cafe full of people for your religion? Probably not a coward.

Spend your entire life dedicated to science and discovery? Might shy from confrontations.

I'd much prefer the world to be full of the latter.
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>>83943789
Not even Jewish and I have no real clue what you are on about. Who sucks baby sucks? Literally what?
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>tfw you start a religious argument in a thread so people won't make fun of your boy Adam and his perfectly fine and legal sexual preference

yeh boi
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>this animal raping dogbotherer is still here and furfags are still defending him
lmao
Remember when he said animals rolling on their belly when you pet them is consent?
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>>83943949
Good luck convicting me when you have to objectively prove I did something wrong sucker.
>>83943970
>I can give you the passages
>doesn't just post the passages
really makes you think
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>>83939845
>not being a servant of Jesus Christ so you can ascend to a paradise where the lamb lies with the lion
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>>83944000

He literally told you what to google in the post you quoted you dunce.
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>>83942001
slightly less horrible than the original desu
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>>83944000
Anon's probably referring to the tradition of rabbis sucking blood off penises post-circumcision.

>>83944007
Even furfags won't defend him. t. furfag
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>>83943195
The fuck does any of this have to do with Atheism?
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>>83943974
Buddy, I think you are having an imaginary argument here. I have said and continue to say, that all religions are bad and that comparing casualties like a contest is sick.

And yes, you are gutless. If yout entire belief system is to spite people you disagree with it is because you are too cowardly to debate them.
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>>83944007
IT WAS ROLLING ON THEIR BACK AND IT'S TRUE YOU FASCIST
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>>83943454
dont you think its better to have morals because you are a good person rather than through indoctrination and fear and promises that you'll go to heaven?
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>>83944060
>LOOK AT ME IM A FURFAG
actually labelling yourself over a fetish is nearly as pathetic as molesting your pets
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>>83944060
>>83944036
>Anon's probably referring to the tradition of rabbis sucking blood off penises post-circumcision.
I'm absolutely sure that isn't a real thing.
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>>83943893
If it was possible to capitalize question marks I would put 5 capitalized question marks here.
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>>83944119
Why? I finished my answer with a question, you dodged it. Why even reply, lol
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>>83944073

I'm not too cowardly to debate them, obviously you dumb fuck. I just would rather side with them than side with people like you who spout bullshit then move the goalposts and say "NUH UH NEVER HAPPENED!" with their fingers in their ears. You calling anyone else a coward is hilarious.
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>>83944115
Welcome to religion.
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>>83944031
Tell me what you want a passage for, specifically. I've actually read the fucking shit book.
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>>83944143
>dog that can't speak
>human that can consent
not the same
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>>83944115
It was a big cause of syphilis in american Jewish communities.
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Holy shit this thread derailed.

Did anyone find out the actual reason Mark and Adam split?
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>>83944095
Who said anything about labelling? Defining yourself by fetishes or sexual preferences is retarded, just stating that even people into fictional furshit won't defend a literal dogfucker.
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>>83944159
>I side with them to spite you
>doubling down
Right.
>you moved the goal posts.
On what you triggered idiot? Which post do you think is me? Christ I just explained to you what I said.

Are you actually autistic?
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>>83944219
because faggots are literally shallower than women
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>>83944062
The dogfucker is an atheist. He even made a song where he walks around shirtless with ketchup on his head that had lyrics written by TheAmazingAtheist, a man who once raped a banana then poured hot oil on his micropenis on camera.
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>>83944219

>>83939248
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>>83943308

I swear to god, Synecdoche is a fucking cursed movie
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>>83944176
>>83944198
This is all some autistic /pol/ bullshit. Please back it up with sources because it is ridiculous and I have literally never heard of it.
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>>83944219
twitch

/videos/150981311?t=03h16m00s

There he starts talking about this.
In short, Mark is not reliable and talks shit about adam
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>>83944143
>If I found out the dad groomed the boy since childhood to be some kind of sexual slave, that's different. Highly unusual, yes, wrong, I don't think so.
>wrong, I don't think so.
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>>83944115
>>83944261

Literally google what was in his post.

>Metzitzah B'Peh
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>>83939182
thats the internet for you
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>>83944182
I'm failing to see your point. I didn't bring up the gay dad/son hypothetical, you or someone else did. I agree they aren't the same. The original question was "if we're stardust why can't we fuck a dog?" and I said the dog can't consent. I don't know why the gay dad/son shit came up, I didn't bring it up, but I'm not going to shy away from the stupid question. 2 consenting adults with no history of abuse or anything can have gay sex, I'm okay with that. I'm not okay with people fucking dogs, specifically because they can't consent. Where does God come in? God is not necessary. You're going off on some wild tangent.

>>83944280
If it's wrong, what should be done about it? How about a real answer instead of le meme face and le meme arrows.
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>>83944229

Yes, that's actually why I chose to be an atheist.
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>>83944287
No, source me directly right here where it says that Rabis fucking licked circumcision blood off of baby dicks. Source that evidence for me. You have to do the work here.
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>>83944095
hey i like it when my dog licks my butthole
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>>83944254
>atheist's nightmare turned out to be ours
How wrong, how horribly wrong he was
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>>83944115
it is, they've given infants herpes before
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>>83944261
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah#Metzitzah
and the larger section below that.
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>>83944334
>copy and pasting a phrase into google is "work"

all the sources you could ask for that talk about rabbis sucking baby dick blood
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>>83944374
Source your ridiculous as shit claims already.
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>>83944334
Holy shit JIDF or actually retarded people out in full force today.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070522001308/http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=11539

It's a practice that Rabbis have been doing since forever. Read a fucking book sometime you retard.
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>>83944334
http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/new-case-of-neonatal-herpes-caused-by-jewish-circumcision/
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>>83944401
>I don't understand how burden of proof works
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>>83944405
You are legitimately too stupid to live.
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>>83944334
>The practice of metzitzah b'peh was alleged to pose a serious risk in the transfer of herpes from mohelim to eight Israeli infants, one of whom suffered brain damage.[43][59] When three New York City infants contracted herpes after metzizah b'peh by one mohel and one of them died, New York authorities took out a restraining order against the mohel requiring use of a sterile glass tube, or pipette.
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>>83944444
yeah and everyone is literally giving you the proof

retard
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>>83944312
Sexual Offense charge.
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>>83944374
>>83944385
>>83944401
>>83944409
Alright then, it's a thing. But it's not even super common anymore.
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>>83944473
Yes I just admitted it was a thing now.
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>>83944509
google rabbi herpes outbreak and see how many articles pop up
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>>83944496
That's completely nonspecific and vague. What sexual offense is being committed? Not rape.
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>>83944446
>you are stupid if you didn't know about an ancient Jewish tradition that barely any modern Jews do
I'm not even Jewish and that's why I fucking asked for proof. Why you think it's stupid to ask for proof is beyond me.
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>>83944509
>I-I-IT NEVER HAPPENED YOU ARE DUMB /pol/ EVIL NAZIS REE!
>UH UH UH OKAY IT HAPPENED BUT IT HARDLY EVER HAPPENS ANYMORE ONLY ABOUT 6 MILLION CASES A YEAR REE!
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>>83944595
>DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>83944496
Incest(depends on state)
Would you actually condone Father-son sex?
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>>83944570
The Post article said there was a small outbreak in the early 2000s but that there is no record of the ritual being more popular from then to now and it was already barely practiced to begin with.
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>>83944595
You're stupid because you got a thousand examples of proof then kept asking for more and more proof, stupid. Go be stupid somewhere else.
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>>83944628
There is no damage control, I admitted I was wrong in the face of evidence.
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>>83944643

>no record

Hmm.
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>>83944605
It did sound like a /pol/ meme, there are not 6 million cases a year and I literally admitted you were right once you proved it.

What an autistic winner you are.
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>>83944643
if there's no records how can you claim it's barely practiced?
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>>83944643
I doubt sucking baby cock is really something they're gonna put on the books.
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>>83944220
Furfags would fuck animals if they could get away with it and we all know it.
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>>83944647
Posts are time stamped, friendoo.
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>>83944722
That doesn't make the opposite true...

Why is that crazy for you? That it's not something widespread anymore?
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>>83944720

>You calling anyone else autistic

Ironic.

>>83944751

Yes they are, friendo. You got proof in the original post on the subject. You're a fucking idiot.
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>>83944708
>>83944741
Oh right, I forgot we live in conspiracy land so it must be a big Jew cover up...despite how literally nobody is covering up that this is a practice.
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>>83944780
If there are many cases of herpes outbreaks from the practice and most people dont have herpes that means it's either common practice or only rabbis with herpes do it.
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>its a /pol/ invades /tv/ yet again episode
i hate you all
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What does this have to do with /tv/?
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>>83944641
Yes holy shit I said that. Answer my question. What should be done to punish the 2 consenting male adults? Fine them or jail them? Literally what harm comes from a guy having sex with another guy? If you had a father/daughter relationship I wouldn't support that because now you have to consider them having fucked up kids and the welfare of mutant children that might come into the world. But a male/male sexual relationship is 100% harmless.

>le shocked reaction face and greentext with no argument
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>>83944784
Nothing I said was autistic. I asked for proof, you gave it, I agreed. Christ you are dragging this dumb shit out.
>Yes they are, friendo. You got proof in the original post on the subject.
No, that anon just told me to look it up on Google myself. Why do I need to explain this, I don't have to prove YOUR points true on my own...you have to prove it TO ME.

you did, it's over.
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>>83944839
I know, right?
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>>83944839
most of the people that are in show business are degenerates so the moral discussions are tangentially related?
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>>83944839
first day on /tv/?
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>>83944263
>In short, Mark is not reliable and talks shit about adam
kek, I bet he's the one guy costantly calling him dog fucker here
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>>83944833
It was a minor and contained outbreak that happened due to a handful of rabbis it seems. That doesn't really denote some epidemic or resurgence of this ritual. It's also mostly only being kept alive through the orthodox sects. Not mainstream
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>>83944859
So, you would say that a father and a son fucking isn't morally wrong?
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>>83944817
Keep spinning like a dreidel there Hymie. I'm Jewish. I've heard about it still being done to this day and it's very divisive amongst Jewish families. inb4 threats to gas me

>>83944839
Film reviewer.
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>>83944916
proof?
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>>83944641
>Father-son
>not father-daughter or mother-son
get out of here, you degenerate fagot
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>>83944886
>he thinks moral degeneracy is both a thing or a solid argument
It's neither.
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>>83942180
how the fuck can you get meat from animals without killing them
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>>83944866

You had it proven to you by being told where the proof was in the original post. You're a retard. You don't get to say when it's over. I will shame you until 404 if I want.
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>>83944950
HOLY SHIT ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?
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>>83944930
The point is that it's not common.
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>>83944973
>cut a thin slice of meat
>eat it
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>>83944894
As far as I know I'm not Mark and I call him a dogfucker all the time.
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>>83944985
look nigger if you don't like me to an article proving your point then you can fuck off
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>>83944958
>implying your opinion matters in my moral code
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>>83945004
yeah, bt there's one guy who practically has a template for that >>83940219
It's almost harry potter pasta's level of versatility
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>>83944978
>by being told where the proof was in the original post
Again, that isn't how it works. You don't just say where the proof is, you present it. After I pressed you, you did. I agreed.

This really isn't some major victory, faggot. You were right about some dumb Jewish baby sucking thing. Great. I'm going to move on now, this is my last (you).
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>>83944973
I'm sure just like a human you could cut pieces off of them to eat and keep them alive haha.

Not that I've ever done that haha.
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>>83945012
Wait, I thought you were the other guy, sorry.
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>>83944923
If they both consent and there is no history of abuse or grooming. If the 'son' in the hypothetical is just a brainwashed slave that's been kept locked in a dungeon or something, that's fucked up and wrong. I already said barring something like that, there is nothing wrong morally with a father/son banging. You people just keep going "omg are you serious this guy's serious he can't be serious" like holy shit reply with some kind of argument.

>>83944973
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat
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>>83944950
It's in the Post article you sent me.
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>>83945060
I'm the one that linked the nypost
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>>83940928

SUMMERFAG DETECTED
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>>83945041

You got your proof in the original post and you will give me (You)s until I say we're done. Give me a (You) filthy little slut.
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>>83945037
>he thinks anyone takes the word degeneracy seriously in the 21st century
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>>83945079
did you miss the part where I said google rabbie herpes outbreak and see how different results from different years there are?
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>>83945107
>he's too dumb to read
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>>83945103
>implying I just wasn't on the board when the other yms threads were posted
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>>83941963
>They don't want to be killed. What gives anyone the right to kill them?
We have the means to kill them. That is how it works in nature. Animals didn't develop sharp claws for photosynthesis you fucking moron. Plants don't want to be eaten either but I don't see you hippies putting out for them. Germs don't want to die either, does that mean you're against medical treatment?

I can kill them, eat them to continue my own survival and they cannot stop me. Animals only have as many rights as humans give them because morality is a human invented concept.
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>>83945106
Yes sir. ;_;
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>>83945155
Who are you quoting and what are we reading?
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>>83945121
Google search results isn't a source. Are you easily duped? Anyone can make a fucking website.
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>>83945285
You find a credible website USING THE GOOGLE SEARCH.
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>>83944641
>incest is legal in some states
jesus christ america
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>>83945184
>trying to argue with an autistic ancap
he isn't even aware that he has already accepted a subjective moral principle as an objective absolute.
>>83945285
>being this obtuse
autist that really doesn't want to lose the argument or shitty jidf on damage control?
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>>83944989

Prove it's not common
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>>83945331
Yeah, I know. We suck.
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>>83945184
>Plants don't want to be eaten

Plants don't not want to be eaten either, they aren't sentient, and neither are germs. Don't be absurd, cows are not plants. They are mammals. We are mammals.

>I can kill them, eat them to continue my own survival and they cannot stop me.

That doesn't make it right. I could sneak up on you and tie you up and kill you and you would never have had a chance to stop me, you being defenseless doesn't make it okay for me to kill you, you psychopath.
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>>83945314
No you don't, that doesn't constitute research you fucking clod. You need to know where to look. Like collegiate research websites.
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>>83945439
what proof do you have that cows are sentient?
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>>83945475
>clod
wtf are you a mustache-twirling villain

also you can fucking find collegiate research websites through google
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>>83945370
>it's being obtuse to care about the integrity and credibility of your sources and research
>kids literally think "look up on Google" is an actual argument
I almost forgot how pathetic you people are about research and actual argumentation. I'm sure I'll get ten more (you)s screeching at me though...
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>>83945331

Don't blame America, it's far more prevalent in places like Britain and it's like a way of life here in rural areas of my shitty island home.
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>>83945475
I'm sure they have a lot of funding for baby dick herpes studies
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>>83945522
...then when you want to prove a point, link those. That is literally your own job when you are making an argument you lazy faggot.
>wahhhhh don't call me clod!
Kill yourself, clod.
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>>83945475

You are the dumbest person on the planet.
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>>83940852
Dayum X-23 looks like THAT?
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>>83945506
I've humoured a lot of stupid posts in this thread for the sake of argument but I'm just giving you a (You) out of pity now.
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>>83945524
Maybe you're the one who's too stupid to deduce what is a reliable source and what isn't? So when we say google it, we expect you to be like us and able to figure it out?
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when i buy meat that doesn't mean that i think animals should be killed and so it doesnt mean either that i want people to fuck dogs. the cow is already dead so why not eat the meat. if my whole city suddenly stopped buying meat forever the animals would still die, so if i alone stop buying meat will that save any animals? no, instead it will be thrown into the trash can of the supermarket
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>>83945560
>SPOONFEED ME BECAUSE I'M A LAZY FAT RETARD, THAT'S THE RULES!

lol no
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>>83945580
>make arbitrary moral arguments
>claim other people are stupid
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>>83945573
Why? Honestly, why? Because I ask you to do some fucking work when you want to prove something? Is this how goddamn backwards we are now? Saying "look it up on Google" has never been an argument. What bizzaro world do I live in? Or are you just genuinely autistic?

It frustrates me why you don't understand this.
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>>83945606
Except that isn't how burden of proof works. Do you not understand? It is NOT my job to prove you right.
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>>83945659

You're lazy and stupid. You are obviously part of the entitled generation who thinks they should be given everything on a silver platter instead of doing their own work. I suggest you kill yourself.
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>>83945659
It was not an argument it was a request for you to simply look up something on Google. There is nothing to fucking argue about there is so much already saying that rabbis suck baby dicks.
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>>83945692
>GIVE ME SOURCES
>NO THOSE [ENTIRE PAGES] OF SOURCES AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH
>THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS STILL ON YOU
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>>83945639
>me spoonfeed meme because I am lazy

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

Yes, it is how you fucking do it you low IQ retard.
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>tfw I just wanted to talk about how much of a sick dogfucker this faggot is and then I had to bring up how sick kikes are and then some retard ruined the thread with his stupidity because he doesn't know how to use google

Picture related, I'm making a face just like her right now.
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>>83945713
I DON'T PROVE SOMEONE ELSE'S POINT

You literally do not know how to argue.
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>>83945614
>when i buy meat that doesn't mean that i think animals should be killed

And that really doesn't cause you any distress? You don't see how those beliefs contradict one another?

You create a demand by being another person who demands meat at the market. If no one bought it, they wouldn't just throw it all in the trash, they would stop butchering animals for meat entirely. If you want to enact change you don't wait for everyone else to start and then jump on the bandwagon once it's all over.
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Man I haven't seen the kikes sidetrack something this hard since they got Trump elected.
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>>83945750
A general link vomit list of Google searches is not "pages of proof".

You have to be baiting me, nobody is this stupid.
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>>83945758
You fucking moron. How old are you, 15? You think it's "le edgy" to be on 4chan. The burden of proof simply states that when someone states that their argument cannot be proven wrong does not mean it's right. Fucking idiot.
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>>83945784
not like this thread was going anywhere either way
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>>83945842
well you've already accepted one of them as fact and the rest are from as reliable a source as that one so why not?
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>>83945784

I'm not going to post >her. I know you want me to. I will not post >her.
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>>83945846
>The burden of proof simply states that when someone states that their argument cannot be proven wrong does not mean it's right. Fucking idiot.
That is like, barely correct...
>The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.
>The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim
>The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim
>The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim
Fuck, how are you having trouble with this?
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>>83945842
Actually, fuck you. Here you go, idiot.
https://journals.co.za/content/m_samj/39/44/AJA20785135_37586
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>>83945830
if they stopped butchering cows you know most of them would die anyway right? It's not like they're just going to be released and survive in the wild.
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>>83945894
>and the rest are from as reliable a source
No, this isn't just true because it shows up on a fucking list. Holy shit stop posting.
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>>83945830
you are right, if no one bought it there would be no demand. but that's not gonna happen and just wishful thinking. it's a nice thought, but don't base your opinion on an impossible case. even if i stopped buying it the impact would be so small that i would never lessen the demand.

i dont want animals to get killed, but it's impossible to change the fact that animals get killed. it's never going to happen, no matter how much work i put into it. so when i stop buying meat there is no point in pretending i changed the world.

i dont want global warming but when i stop using my car it wont make a difference. and my own impact is so minimal that it, in fact, does not cause any distress.
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>>83945941
>The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever.
All you did was cut a sentence in half.
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>>83945989
Why are you trying to put words in my mouth? Is it because you lost the argument?
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>>83945975
See? Thank you! This is called providing evidence to a claim. See in adult world, you just do this right off the bat. It services to strengthen your argument. Now, the next step is seeing if the source is credible. Good job though champ! You did it!
>>
Remember when this thread was about fucking dogs?

Good times.
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>>83945991
You're lying to yourself and it's not very convincing. Why change anything ever? It's too hard. Things gradually change over time. You're just a part of the instant gratification coca cola taste bud generation, I'm afraid.
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>>83946040
>ywn be this embarrassingly autistic and stupid
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>>83946016
Did you miss the entirety of the fucking paragraph or something? How are you still having trouble with this? What do you not understand? This is basic goddamn fucking shit kid. There is always a burden on the person making a claim...ALWAYS.
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>>83946080
Thank god.
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Before 404 I'll get the thread back on track by letting you all know that my grandpa is a great kisser.
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>>83946080
>refuses to understand or even remotely follow the concept of burden of proof
>spends a dozen posts acting obtuse as all fuck
>finally produces a link
>"y-y-ypu dumb".
Literally kill yourself now.
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>>83946072
now you're just randomly assuming things about my character. you wouldn't know if i was a politician and saved my countries economy after it was shit for 200 years. you wouldnt know if i found a cure for cancer. of course i didnt. and i am not lying to myself either
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>>83946094
Can you read? Is your mommy reading for you? I'm surprised her voice got through all the rolls of fat covering your ears.
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>>83946028
>look at me I'm autistic
>but Google though!!!
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>>83946162
>implying I was the one who produced that link
>implying I care whether or not your autistic ass finds an article that satisfies your appeal to authority threshold
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>>83946162
That wasn't me.
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>>83946212
>resorting to ad hom
>not losing the argument
>>
Sometimes when my grandpa is kissing me I can taste the corn he ate the night before under his dentures.
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>>83946259
Proof or it doesn't happen.
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>>83946170
If you think it's wrong to kill animals for their meat then you cannot possibly reconcile that with giving tacit approval to the providers of the meat. Either own up to it and say you think it's perfectly fine to murder animals because they aren't human or act in accordance with how you think. That's called being a hypocrite.
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>>83946184
Holy shit, are you seriously doubling down?
>The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.
It even gives you a motherfucking example you low test faggot:
>Example: Bertrand declares that a teapot is, at this very moment, in orbit around the Sun between the Earth and Mars, and that because no one can prove him wrong, his claim is therefore a valid one.
^example of the goddamn fallacy.

Christ I am triggered, I could strangle you.
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>>83946259
>not cleaning your dentures daily
disgusting
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>>83946216
Burden of proof isn't an appeal to authority...

How do some of you honestly get this stupid? What happens?
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>>83946278
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>>83946336
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>>83946330
>unable to comprehend the meta-cognition
>other people are stupid
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>>83946244
I didn't lose anything here. I dropped the baby dick thing posts ago, when I was proven wrong. Now I'm dealing with kids who fundamentally don't understand how arguments work.
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>>83946289
what if I don't consider it immoral to be a hypocrite?
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>>83946289
well then how come i really enjoy eating meat but i don't enjoy the thought of animals being killed? that means i don't approve their killings. as i said i do not feel guilty though. well i guess not taking responsibility for your actions is the easy way
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>>83946376
>unable to comprehend the meta-cognition
Oh right, 13th dimensional cognition right, faggot? What are you even on about now?
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>>83946336
You're James Franco?
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>>83946387
So you admit you have a baby dick.

I win, thread over.
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>>83946425
>t. 13 year old
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>>83946416
>What are you even on about now?
exactly
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>>83946460
>t. baby dick
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>>83946470
>babble shit about being aware of your own thought process, as if that means anything to the conversation.
I'm so fucking sick of this board and all the autists on it who suffer from one he'll of a case of cognitive dissonance regarding their own intelligence.
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>>83946409
>I concede the argument: the post

reply

>>83946412
>I don't approve of you killing those animals
>now go out and kill some animals that I might enjoy their meat!!

pic related
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Shut up, baby dicks.
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>>83946524
no john you are the autist
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>83946517
THREAD 2
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>>83946547
>now go out and kill some animals that I might enjoy their meat!!
you're making things up again.
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