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>last thread died with 6 posts
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i feel bad for /lbg/

Three Ages is shit.

First for Surf Ninjas.

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>>83802640

>>83802584

>>83802743
nice try dropout_gorro

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>>83802873
D-delet this.

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>>83802873
D-delet this.

>>83803096
I fucked that chick.

>>83802888
>>83803096
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2CLmjRYxxcU

Sometimes I leave the seat up on purpose

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>>83803128

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>>83802249
the entire GITS review section is a shitshow. I hate this website sometimes

What are the best looking 3D films? Is Batman v. Superman good looking in 3D?

>>83804275
The Great Wall (2016)

>>83804275
i haven't seen a film since Dredd that used 3D well.

>>83804342
so underrated

>>83804342
thanks i'll test it out

>>83804375
not especially. it's got a decent cult following and constant fan requests for a sequel. there's a TV series coming relatively soon, and the producers are trying to get Karl Urban back.

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I wonder how it feels to make over 500 works, each one being a milestone in their respective medium, creating the best works of a medium, and pioneering all techniques within a medium.

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>>83804428
Which milestone works did Griffith create outside of the medium of film?

>>83804428
Griffith=Reddit

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>>83804428

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>>83804428
Tell me about the master work The Idol Dancer

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>>83804508
He was a brilliant playwright.

>>83804509
>Reddit
'Sup, reddit

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>>83804535
Pure poetry
The Idol Dancer>The Red Shoes

Griffith did it all first

Idol Dancer was done on location while 28 years later Red Shoes was still done on a stage

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>>83804595
pronley cuz the story is about a stage play

Idol Dancer used non-actors while Red Shoes was filled with theater actors. Griffith did all first and best

>>83804632
>about a stage play
Why make a film then. Griffith didn't use scripts and whenever something was adapted he practically reinvented it by adding entire chunks. The entire first half of Birth of a Nation isn't even in Thomas Dixon's novel.

>>83804700
why make the film? because they wanted to tell a story about conflict behind the scenes of a stage play

>>83804731
Could've done it on stage.

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And that's hardly original. Extra Girl+Stage Door>>>>>Red Shoes

>>83804775
not many people want to fly to new york to see a single play bro.

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Office >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>*

I wonder how PUNQ's wife reacts when he tells her she could've done it on stage with his nigger babies

I'd fly to see Emily Jean in Cabaret tho :3

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>>83804299
American Guerrilla in the Phillippines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Great Wall

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How can Dont Watch Griffith even compare

why build a wall for the purpose of stopping illegal immigration from the U.S. southern border when the Chinese already did it first

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protip: he does not

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>>83805133
Trump BTFO

>>83805126
>>83805155
>Larry Fong passed on Justice League to shoot the fucking Predator reboot
>they hired some random asshole whose largest credit to date is the shitty Frankenstein reboot from last year and 6 episodes of Game of Thrones
jesus fucking christ

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>>83805175
Wait, I thought Zack was directing JL? That's also what Google tells me.

>>83805201
he did. reshoots are being handled by Joss Whedon so Snyder can take time off to deal with his family, but they're being shot based on guidelines from Snyder. i don't see what that has to do with the DOP, though.

>>83805155
Who the fuck stands like that. Doomsday looks like a wannabe Victoria's Secret model

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>>83805099
The Sterile Cuckoo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American Guerrilla in the Philippines

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>>83805271
Kidnapped >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Sterile Cuckoo

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>>83805295
Danger - Love at Work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kidnapped

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>>83805336
Sunrise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danger - Love at Work

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>>83805418
Wild Oranges>>>>>>>Sunrise

>>83805581
>Wild Oranges
it's not an animal how the fuck can it be wild

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>>83805581
Like Father, Like Son >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wild Oranges

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;_;

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>>83805691
Surf Ninjas >>>>>> Like Father, Like Son

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Griffith makes you think, Griffith makes you ponder.

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>>83806004
Sticks kicks your ass, Sticks kicks your face.

>>83805733
You win.

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https://letterboxd.com/samturret/
hey im back did anyone miss me?

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https://letterboxd.com/tachikoma/

I have about an hour to decide whether I want to see Wonder Woman, The Mummy or this movie about kitters: https://letterboxd.com/film/kedi-2016/

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What are some good Bildungsroman films?

>>83806763
i wonder what happened to this guy

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>>83807480
Not that.

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letterboxd.com/OriginalName3/

>>83808148
niec 1

Lads what are some legit arthouse classics that happen to include a lot of female nudity and sex?

>>83808252
Salo

>>83808281

Stuff like Salo or In The Realm of The Senses is probably a bit much, I mean something more like The Woman in the Dunes

>>83808252
Caligula
Flaming Creatures
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover (Helen Mirrin is nude for about 70% of the film)

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Earth is a dinosaur

>>83804568
>no technicolor
dropped

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https://letterboxd.com/farre/

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http://nausea.club

I'm Watters, this is my world.

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>tfw signed up to film classes for the next Autumn. What should I expect?

>>83804275
Dial M for Murder? I haven't seen it in 3d yet though.

>>83811576
faggots, faggots everywhere

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Looks like dropout_gorro and his pack of discord circle-jerk ass-clowns are out if Sunday school.

>wanna r8 movie
>watch half in the bag review
>rlm has a dissenting opinion from mine
>dont know what to r8

wat do????

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>>83811251
>>83811251
Now streaming pic related.

>>83804568
Does this feature beautiful women dancing sensually? If so, I might consider watching it.

>>83805126
>>83805155
Based Steakbro exposing the fuck out of mega autist

>>83809984
>dialogue
dropped

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>>83812285
>implying i respond to megaautist

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>>83811576
>tfw they're going to show you Griffith

>>83812364
Griffith is b& from colleges because racism ya dingus.

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https://letterboxd.com/machill54/

Rewatching on big screen, it has changed my opinion from the first watch and now I think evil dead 1 is better than 2
Skippers Wooing was a pleasant surprise, really good

>>83804275
Caves of Forgotten Dreams, Pina, 3D rarities, Jackass 3D are best use of 3D in film. Best as in best 3D effects might still be avatar, haven't really followed for a couple of years though

>>83804568
did Griffith do anything approximating found footage as a narrative technique?

>>83812400
>going to a liberal arts school

>>83812477
Griffith invented everything important. Griffith invented shaking the camera to show psychological state in 1909

>>83812761
Ok so is that 'no'
It wasn't an attack, just curious

>>83812477
wahoo!!!!!!!!!!

>>83812848
You have to be more specific if you want a clear answer. If you mean real footage of non-actor natives, yes. If you mean using real footage of battles, yes.

>it's a megaautist pretends to not know what someone's asking him so he can misdirect and continue to say Griffith invented everything even though he's clearly been proven wrong multiple times episode
i love these

Griffith did not birth Emily Jean, who care not me.

>>83813370
agreed

>>83813589
I mean the plot device of characters watching footage found somewhere else (that's actually fictional, but real within the context of the film)

Like cannibal holocaust/Blair witch

>>83813675
Griffith invented everything important. I'm still right.

>>83813782
so now we've gone from "Griffith invented everything" to "Griffith invented everything important"? sounds like you're admitting you were wrong to me.

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>>83813675
There needs to be clarification since newsreel documentaries didn't become an established thing until the 30's. If he means using real footage yes. Griffith is so real though, people might as well consider everything he made as "found footage". Jonas Meka made note of that. Many peple on /tv/ have consistently said Birth of a Nation is the most realistic film about the Civil War.

Found footage from 1860s America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVrDv-4aaNI&t=51s

>>83814005
i can't imagine you're so ignorant of modern cinema that you don't know what the term "found footage" means in this context, especially since it was explained to you here >>83813723

also
>Birth of a Nation
>realistic
it's pro-KKK racist Civil War fanfiction with almost no relation to how events actually played out

>>83814137
>it's pro-KKK racist Civil War fanfiction with almost no relation to how events actually played out
he'll only address this part of your post, i guarantee

>>83814137
Found footage from 1860s America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVrDv-4aaNI&t=51s

>>83814188
yes, i saw this the first time you posted it. it bears no resemblance to the found footage techniques machill was asking about.

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>>83814137
>it's pro-KKK racist Civil War fanfiction with almost no relation to how events actually played out
Got any found footage to prove otherwise. I'm guessing pic-related is your preferred version.

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>>83814005
pic related is the only footage that matters

>>83814480
why would i bother watching a glorification of a slave uprising that involved the massacre of children? it's the same concept with opposite application. also, you're not actually addressing anything i've said.

>>83814411
Machill's talking about horrorshit. If he actually wanted to start a serious argument, he would've said Citizen Kane or Fury 1936.

>>83814564
why does the genre of his examples matter? also, neither of those films use found footage either. quit talking out of your ass for one second, please.

Clarification needs to be made. There were no digital camcorders or newsreels established, and if anything, "found footage" is a matter of perspective. I wouldn't say Cannibal Holocaust or Paranormal Activity was genuine unless you were an infant. Now if you mean watching a film within the film, yes. If you mean using imported footage of battles or filming non-actors and natives within the film yes

>>83814736
>neither of those films use found footage either
Citizen Kane has the News on the March segment and Fury 1936 has the footage of the mob a bystander used for the subsequent trial in the later half of the film

>>83814507
I liked the part where the martini covered her retarded amphibious face

>>83814871
that's not even remotely similar to what you're being asked, and i think you know that.

>>83814797
clarification WAS made. at this point it's fairly obvious that you're wrong and just don't want to admit it. also, Cannibal Holocaust was genuine enough that the director nearly went to jail because people thought he murdered the actors in the film.

>>83814930
Birth of a Nation was genuine enough President Woodrow Wilson said it was "like writing history with lightning."

>>83815011
that's a false quote that was attributed to him by Griffith to try and promote the film and has been debunked repeatedly.

Dixon conceived a bold scheme -- to arrange a private showing of the film at the White House and thereby to obtain the President’s implied endorsement. [41]

Wilson fell into Dixon’s trap, as indeed, did also members of the Supreme Court and both houses of Congress. Then, when the N.A.A.C.P. sought to prevent the showing of “The Birth of a Nation” in New York, Boston, and other cities, Dixon’s lawyers countered successfully by declaring that Chief Justice had seen the movie and liked it immensely. [42]

The Chief Justice, a Confederate veteran from Louisiana, put an end to the use of his name by threatening to denounce “The Birth of a Nation” publicly if Dixon did not stop saying that he had endorsed it. [43] Perceiving the political dangers in the situation, Tumulty suggested that Wilson write “some sort of a letter showing that he did not approve of the ‘Birth of a Nation.’” [44] “I would like to do this,” the President replied, “if there were some way in which I could do it without seeming to be trying to meet the agitation . . . stirred up by that unspeakable fellow Tucker [Trotter].” [45] He did, however, let Tumulty say that he had at no time approved the film; and three years later, when the nation was at war, he strongly disapproved the showing of this “unfortunate production.” [46]

>>83814930
>maming and impaling
So what you're really asking is if Griffith invented torture porn. Which the amount of torture he put Lilian Gish through, he did. And he did it better since she was actually about to fall to her death on that icefloat at the end of Way Down East.

>>83815131
that's not what i'm asking and again, i think you know that.

>>83815088
>NAACP
Yeah no, I'm going to trust Arthur Lennig, certified Griffith historian.

>>83815088
I can't believe megaautism used that quote, when he had to have known it is false.

>>83814909
I'm guessing that you're probably not too bright.

>>83815228
just because they're mentioned doesn't mean they're the source of the information

[41] Dixon tells the story in “Southern Horizons: An Autobiography,” unpublished MS. in the possession of Mrs. Thomas Dixon, Raleigh, North Carolina, pp. 423-424.
[42] For accounts of the hearings in New York and Boston, see Mrs. Walter Damrosch to J.P. Tumulty, March 27, 1915, Wilson Papers; Mrs. Harriet Beale to J.P. Tumulty, March 29, 1915, ibid.; Representative Thomas C. Thacher of Massachusetts to J.P. Tumulty, April 17, 1915, ibid. enclosing letters and documents relating to the hearing in Boston; and Thomas Dixon, “Southern Horizons,” pp. 425-441.
[43] E.D. White to J.P. Tumulty, April 5, 1915, Wilson Papers.
[44] J.P. Tumulty to W.W., April 24, 1915, ibid.
[45] W.W. to J.P. Tumulty, c. April 25, 1915, ibid.
[46] J.P. Tumulty to T.C. Thacher, April 28, 1915, ibid.; W.W. to J.P. Tumulty, c. April 22, 1918, ibid.

>>83815256
>Thomas Dixon's autobiography
Yeah no, I'm going to trust Griffith's autobiography.

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>>83815228
>certified Griffith historian

grant, whats your favorite animal?

>>83815333
>i'm going to ignore the facts because they don't reinforce my beliefs
classic megaautist

are you going to continue embarrassing yourself

>>83815384
Frog.

>>83815372
If it makes you feel any better, he's taught at universities.

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>>83815391
>I'm going to ignore history just to spite someone I don't like
classic anti-Griffith haters.

>I'm going to change my opinion of somebody I like just to spite someone I don't
classic /lbg/

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83619556/#83627315

>>83815601
you're the one ignoring history, dude. the only contemporaneous sources that cite Wilson's "like history written with lightning" quote are Dixon and Griffith, who provided no evidence for it and had a vested economic interest in the endorsement, and the existence of numerous sources that disavow the existence of the quote.

I'd sniff her butt anyways, what's she gonna do about it? I'll just beat her up.

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>yeah, I'm American. Yeah I'm a film buff, but I've never cared about DW Griffith in my life

veyin: i tend to like scores written for restorations more

>>83815697
not to mention the existence of**

>>83815697
>political figure retracts controversial statement
Where have I heard this one before

veyin: im a german hurr durr

>>83815872
whatever you have to say to justify your cognitive dissonance, dude

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>yeah I'm from Kentucky. Yeah I think Tarkovsky and Kurosawa have contributed more to film than Griffith

griffithfag: yeah i like being confrontative and making arguments out of inane stuff

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Is this good or is it just rated highly because long runtime like Satantango and Out 1

veyin: good night
(0 results found)

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>>83816033
kek, nailed it

>>83816034
depends on if you like Fassbinder

>>83816055
praise kek

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http://nausea.club/kino.html
Nao streaman

>>83816034
Fassbinder has no weakness
except drugs and crippling depression

>>83815970
Maybe you should use a reliable source next time, guy.

Arthur Lennig , “Myth and Fact: The Reception of The Birth of a Nation,” Film History 16 (Apr. 2004): 117–41.

>>83816123
Days of heaven is fucking shit

>>83816123
[wheat intensifies]

>>83816200
personal letters between the president and his secretary seem fairly reliable to me, bud

but i gotcha. any source that doesn't support what you believe is just unreliable. that's probably what Lennig thought when he was writing that book, too, knowing that attitude of certain Griffith fans.

>>83816243
i hateee Hollywood so much my faves? everything by the criterion collection :<]

Almost time for VIDYA :D

>>83816345
Days of heaven is in the criterion collection you fucking retard

>>83816366
Cancer

>>83816369
hah trigert

>>83816366
Just 100%'d Dark Souls 3 + DLC packs.

>>83816366
>>83816829
fuck of nosaj

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What did he mean by this?

No, really, what does any of this nonsense mean?

>>83817211
How come everybody on letterboxd spouts pretentious nonsense and thinks they're certified film academics? How come you don't see them on imdb?

>>83815717
what does a girl's butt smells like?
serious question

>>83817397
they have liberal arts degrees and too much free time

>>83817769
poo

>>83817769
Smells like ass

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>>83816123
Applause >>>>>>>> Days of Heaven
Also Mamoulian>Malick

3h 30m to Bethesda guys

>>83818488
Go back to >>>/v/

>>83818589
I'm not from there, so how can I go back there?

eeminder that i will fricken k*ll you if you keep posting at nosaj the way you are posting at nosaj

>>83817769
emily jean's smells like peaches

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>>83818452
>>83805099
>>83805271
>>83805295
>>83805336
>>83805418
>>83805691
If you're going to state a film is better, make sure they're at least remotely similar.

>>83816123
Our Daily Bread>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Days of Heaven. Get better taste, criterionbabby

One above all tier:
>poetry

Pure tier:
>literature
>painting
>sculpture
>music

High tier:
>opera
>theater

medium tier:
>dance
>cinema

Shit tier:
>anime
>comic books
>television
>western cartoons

Not art, not anything tier:
>web comics
>video games

>>83817769
emily jean's smells like nigger seed

>>83819167
Music is for children and niggers and dance is purely nigger now

>>83819167
>anime
>art
Weeb puppet go back to >>>/a/

>>83819167
this, music can be debatable though

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>>83819167
Corporeal mime and lithography is superior to all that shit you just mentioned. Get better taste in mediums, babby.

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>>83802249
https://letterboxd.com/necrofu/
Today I tried reviewing as many films as I could remember seeing and my reviews are all based off of my personal taste, not the objective merit of the film. I am by no patrician, just someone who wants to learn to appreciate and discover better movies than the ones I've already seen. Really open to any criticism if anyone has any recommendations.

>>83819162
rice>bread
Get better taste, amerilard.

>>83819281
New Mystery Men poster is :poop:

>>83819281
I am by no means a*

>>83819280
good guy D.W. fan dissing the weeb

>>83819280
dowsers > mediums
Eliminate your own map.

>>83819167
cinema is a place. If you implied film was art, that would be a contradiction. Poetry is literature you dunce and they're both shit-tier next to music.

>>83819216
>>83819263
start listening to anything other than Billboard Hot 100s anytime, embryos
music is literally the most transcendent, expressive of all artforms

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Every word out of the mouth of God >>>> bread

>>83819379
There only so many possible intonations. Painting is superior

>>83819379
Weak strawman, /mu/dslime

>>83819162
If you're going to state an opinion, make sure it's not absolutely mentally retarded dogshit.

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>>83819314
>rice>bread
'Sup ricenigger. Who has the largest economy again

Cinema has been largely stagnant since Bresson. Music is literally being reinvented over and over again every 50 years since Palestrina

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>>83818452

>>83819500
If you're going to shittalk opinions, make sure you graduate pre-school first.

>>83819526
luxury>economy
Get some taste, poornigger.

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>>83819347
Damn straight. There's no need to fix what isn't broken.

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>>83819585
Get better genes, aspie

>>83819543
Pressing keys on your computer isn't music. And cinema hasn't evolved since Griffith. Griffith already did acting divorced from theater first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-DmyUI1PsQ

>>83819689
Thanks for making your ignorance abundantly clear

>>83819582
>shittalking opinions
If you're going to characterize responses, at least learn to read first.

>>83819788
Me>you
If you're going to futilely try to assume superiority, know facts first.

>>83819651
nurture>nature
Get better theories, victim of child abuse.

>>83819757
>posting German music from 18th century
Thanks for exposing your shit taste.

Oswald von Wolkenstein>Robert Schumann

Also, name a single thing Bresson did formally new that wasn't already done by 1939. L'argent 1928>L'argent 1983

>>83819831
last>first
Those who are last now will be first then, and those who are first will be last, ignorancebabby

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>>83819651
>5'11"
>good genes
nice try manlet

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>>83819902
>nurture>nature
Explain why it's a coincidence that Obama was the worst president in the history of the United States, bubble-boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noCAzGP_lig

who's the Chopin of film?
inb4 griffith

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>>83819996
>google search
Find an academic source, projectionist.

>>83820059
He was raised by blacks. What coincidence? Bad nurturing.

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>>83819603
this one gives me 90s nostalgia

>>83820103
you do that shit all the time bruh

>>83820169
>bruh
Found the nigger.

What's this right here, wikipedianigger >>83816200

underaged music children EXPOSED

>>83820116
Explain why it's a coincidence you're dumber than me.

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Your first mistake was existing. Your second mistake was thinking you knew more than me, /lbg/. I'm going to correct both of those mistakes, no matter how much time it takes. From now until the end of time, I'll be here to prove you wrong and destroy you. Give up, /lbg/, you haven't a chance of winning against a superior genetic specimen like myself.

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metaphoircal cinematography and emotive cinematography are different things

metaphorical: citizen kane - mirror shot
emotive: colonel blimp - wiping condensation off a carriage window

what i'm calling emotive cinematogrpahy needs a new name. it is about physically understanding deep inflections and associations with certain actions, surroundings, common human processes. it is about illuminating exactly what is happening in a scene by way of relatable physical moments, it works like how nostalgia works. you can fully understand the moment for the character because you recognise what they are doing from moments in your own life.

there is a film that exists which consists almost entirely of this 'emotive' cinematography/direction. it is called miami vice.

this is almost certainly not going to become the future of cinema technique, but only because the technique is too indefinite to learn or teach; it is a product of feeling and observation, nothing more. the 'craft' of cinema crumbles before this paradigm.

>>83820214
>>83820305
>>83820326
Both Griffith and Mann are shitty artists compared even to mid-tier composers
Film will never be a serious artform

<<83819978
Me
(you)

>>83820384
Griffith makes sunplays

>>83820384
silly>serious
Lighten up and laugh a bit, humourless old maidnigger

>>83820452
moonplays>sunplays
Learn to embrace the feminine, misogynistbabby

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/thegr1fter

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>>83820326
Griffith invented both.

Griffith also invented something far superior. Visual rhyming: revisiting the same locations and exact shots to see (de)volution over the passage of time. For example in Birth of a Nation, the revisiting of the same few shots of the homes and seeing the ravaging caused over time as the same shots get progressively longer emphasizing the deterioration and destruction.

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>>83820985
visual prose>visual rhyming
Rhymes are for babbies, go listen to Mother Goose.

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>>83821338
>visual prose
Griffith invented and mastered that as well

>>83821556
fog harvesting>well
What's it like living in the 19th century, grandpa?

ITT: Who knows more about cinema history and let me know why I am a complete homosexual for Griffith

>>83820985
isn't that 'technique' just a happy accident resultant of economical filmmaking?

Embarrassing thread for music fans. Good thing you're anonymous.

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>>83821993
"No."

>>83821873
Isn't wiping condensation just an accident resultant of a what was written in the script>>83820326

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>>83821873
Answer the question. When did static shots of environments become invented in 1995

>>83819404
Best post ITT.

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>>83822065
perhaps. still a good example of emoting through action as opposed to unnatural orchestrated visual manipulation.

you are trying to undermine the 'technique' by saying it was already in the script but the entire reason it's good is because of its closer relationship with the literary; its ability to display things that certain types think cinema is incapable of expressing.

Answer the question. Why is there a James Joyce day but not a DW Griffith day

>>83822373
who the fuck names themself roberto pancake

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>>83822373
no idea what you're trying to say, sorry

>>83822411
crepe > french toast >pancake
Grow a palate, philistine.

>>83822383
Griffith invented spontaneity and characterization through action. He didn't use scripts.

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>>83822458
pepe > crepe

>>83822412
You're implying manual choice like choosing the same shooting locations and purposely extending takes as the film progresses is an accident. What makes wiping condensation not an accident.

>>83822522
characterization through inaction > characterization through action
Michael Bay movies sound more your speed, ADDbabby

>Miami /v/ice tard doesn't understand film terms
imagine my surprise

>>83822615
>wiping condensation is inaction
Sound like preschool is more your speed.

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>>83822615
>characterization through inaction
Isn't that "technique" a happy accident of economical filmmaking?

>>83822739
sight > sound
>>>/mu/ is that way, earfaggot.

>>83822611
already answered this >>83822065
using the same locations is going to happen back them because silent era films, particularly hollywood, were pretty economical where possible, not to mention narratively straightforward. consider that as well as the fact that it is perfectly natural for a film to spend more time in its known locales late in the film (as opposed to when it is setting its stage early on) and all you have is a happy accident of economy and normal intuitive film structure. it's more of a scientific device than artistic

not that i care - you don't seem particularly interested in the art itself, you're obssessed with technique and i despise that type of scholar. good luck on your merry travels.

>>83822833
Silent sunplays>talkies

Go listen to radio, earfaggot

>>83822641
what the hell are you even referring to? scared to quote a post? kill yourself, child

>>83822843
>straightforward
There's not a single talking moving picture in the history of sound that is more visually complex than any of Griffith's sunplays. Go listen to radio, earfaggot.

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Emily Jean invented all of Griffiths techniques first. She is God

>>83823063
You're fucked.

>>83823109
she loves Planes Trains and Automobiles

>>83823053
go watch miami vice for the rest of your life babcunt

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>when you purposely change your mind about something just to spite someone

>>83823149
>audible dialogue
Go listen to radio for the rest of your life, earfaggot.

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>>83823217
>i don't think cinema should have audio
fucking lol. are you some 130 year old dinosaur woman? ever used a smartphone? kill yourself codger cunt, you've been surpassed, make friends with the new or die your bitter self

There are no Michael Mann films on any of the Sight and Sound lists and tsar is a neet that has never got a degree in film

>amazingness
Watch Emily Jean for the rest of your lives, fagfaggots

>>83823351
Sight > sound

>>>/mu/ is that way, earfaggot >>83822833

>>83823374
Griffith will be removed from the next poll.

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>>83823374
sight and sound, like all magazines/journals are pleb as fuck, it doesn't help your argument

>>83823415
you literally admitted that you don't understand the power of visual emoting. not once did i mention sound. neck yourself. goodnight.

Why is Tsar so afraid of mega autist? Is it because tsar is a fraud with no knowledge of film?

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>>83823472
No he won't. Trump's in office now, so he'll most likely be higher. Regardless, you couldn't delete him from history no matter how hard you try. Birth of a Nation remains the highest grossing silent film and his entire body of work is too vast and intelligent to ignore. Every single popular filmmaker throughout history that you most likely like (because you have shit taste based on your genetic makeup) from Kurosawa to Rosselini to Jonas Mekas to Louis Delluc to Jean Renoir to Sergei Eisenstein to Bergman to John Ford to Orson Welles to Werner Herzog has consider him the all-time benchmark

>>83823483
>not once did i mention sound.

>>83823351
>implying cinema should have audio

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>>83823472
>Griffith will be removed from the next poll
It would be different if he only made 4 films like Jean Vigo. No, Griffith made over 500 works and had a systematic relationship with pioneering the entire language of a medium. Each one is an all time great.

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Look at me I'm Jean Vigo!

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Even in sound he pioneered everything once more by implementing mobile camerawork and shooting on location

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>>83824064
>Topsy and Eva
>good

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>>83824288
Everything he touched turned to gold, pleb.

>>83824064
>Jean Vigo
Not as good as Emily
>>83823847
>Jean Renoir
Not as good as Emily

>>83824398
Name 1 (TWO)

reminder to spank your monkey at least once every two weeks to prevent prostate cancer

>>83825450
Nice try, Satan

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>>83825450
always

gta5