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War Doctor edition.
Now that the dust has settled, what did you think of Big Finish's War Doctor series?

Last: >>83645570
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>>83671582
By the nulbdr, lediocre and disappointing.
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why do so many people have their minds made up about the chibbers era already?

i remember everyone hating on matt smith before he'd so much as opened his mouth and he turned out to be the definitive nuwho doctor to a lot of people (probably still second to tennant but still incredibly popular) and was on the show when it really broke america

conversely everyone was hype for capaldo and his has indisputably been the worst era (whether or not that's his fault is irrelevant - it's the end product that matters. i don't tune in every week to watch one good actor desperately try to bring life into awful scripts)

everyone turned their noses up at matt lucas/ catherine tate/ billie piper based on their pre-who fame as well.

everyone thought moffat who would be as GOAT as his pre-showrunner eps...

face it, you can't make any worthwhile predictions based on chibbers writing a tiny handful of eps (but nothing for 5 years) and marshall starring in a shitty sitcom over ten years ago. just wait and see what we actually get
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I couldn't finish the first season and the last.

But what I heard I enjoyed (Until Obsidian Lady which was just non-stop exposition about the dumbest shit)
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>>83671582
Not the horse shit that everyone else thinks, but not particularly memorable aside from a couple scenes. I know Shearman still has writer's block, but it's a fucking shame they didn't bring in someone like Parkin to write a story.
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The Doctor should always be played by someone who is male, white and British.
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>>83671632
>nuldbr
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>>83671644
I agree anon but it's fun to speculate
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>>83671731
But we've had three Scottish Doctors already.
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WHOVIANS EPISODE 8 DOWNLOAD WHEN?
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Just reposting the Moffat interview from last thread for those who did'nt catch it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sks49

Talks about the Christmas special regeneration twenty-seven minutes in
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>>83671644
don't forget more recently people were hyping the monk trilogy up to be GOAT series-saver

the sad truth is, /who/ is retarded and falls for its own hyperbole
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>>83671798
Fuck off amerifat.
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>>83671910
tl;dr: it's gonna be a whopper
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>>83671747
covfefe :p
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Doctor Who? More like
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I still think Pyramid was OK.
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STREAMING THE SPACE PIRATES
https://cytu be/r/casualwhostream
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>>83672053
DOC
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>>83672053
Doctor Poo.
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>>83672053
Dr. Who
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>>83671644
Capaldi's era has indisputably been the best of any nuwho doctor if we just include series 8 and 9 which were masterpieces, far better than anything from tennant
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>>83672089
TOR
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>>83672053
Doctor Woo
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>>83672131
POO!
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"Strawberry blonde! I'm no longer chalky blonde!"
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>>83672100
will you fuck the fuck off already? I've had it up to hear with your insults and I can't fucking stand it any longer, Doctor Who oesn't deserve to be treeated like this, WE don't deserve to be treated like this, just take your dirty, trolling callous ways and get out of here, I'm deadly serious, you've made me angry and I am good at hurting people when I am angry, so GET OUT before I seriously harm you!!!!! I won't warn you again GO AWAY!!!!!
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>>83672127
thanks anon. just reminding the others whose territory this is
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>>83672238
Based Whovian Guardian.
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>>83671644
Admittedly I was pretty apprehensive about Matt Smith. By the end of the eleventh hour though I was pretty sold and he's probably one of my faves now. As for Chibnall I'm not really sure what to expect. Haven't seen BroadChurch and his NuWho episodes were pretty much just ok and Dinos on a spaceship was pure _fun. As much as I don't care for change, this time I'm kind of looking forward to a clean slate. The rumours of him wanting a tennant clone for the doctor rubs me the wrong way, but /who/ nose, it could be great. or shit. Either way I doubt I'll drop the show. There will always be something to like or hate to post about. Very sad that Capaldi is leaving though. It sees like we've just gotten to know his doctor.
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>>83672053
Dr. Poo
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>>83672299
>Haven't seen BroadChurch
get on it man. if nothing else it's a great reminder that chibnall can do characterisation, which will be refreshing after moffat's recent output imo
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>>83672489
I'll check it out sometime before series 11 surely. I've been curious since it came out, just been saving it for a rainy day in which I can marathon it. I want to wait until the next doctor is cast I think. In the off chance that he casts someone from broadchurch as the doctor, which an anon speculated/brought up the possibility of.
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OK three questions.

1. Is pic related the most wasted opportunity to have a great companion?

2. Do we know if episode 12 is Capaldi's last or will it be the Christmas special?

3. Serious answers - why should the doctor NOT be a white British male?
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>>83672902
1. Yes
2. We know Capaldi is in Christmas special.
3. Because good actors exist outside that range too.
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>>83672058
Nooooo, like all good /who/res you're supposed to complain about the major plot hole.

>Bill: " Doctor! Send me a photo of the number dial, then I can help you up/down the numbers"

>Doctor: "Bill! I can't! I adjusted the camera on the sonic shades so I could have limited vision, but I'm still blind dammit"

>Bill: "Oh shi--"
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>>83672058
It was paced better than most of S10 and had an okay, not rushed conclusion.
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>>83672053
TARDIS more like TURDIS
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>>83672949
1. Shame.
2. Ta.
3. I know but why should that mean the Doctor shouldn't be a white British male when he always has been?
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>>83672053
Docturd Poo
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>>83672902
The Doctor should always be played by someone who is male, white and British...
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>>83673408
He will be........
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>>83672902
This only reminds me how fucking GOAT Perkins was in Mummy
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>>83673408
Funny how there's never an actual reason attached to this claim
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based Gatiss
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-06-06/doctor-who-writer-mark-gatiss-says-he-doesnt-give-a-monkeys-when-fans-complain-about-changes-to-the-series
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>>83673618
Don't question Terrance Dicks please.

The Doctor should always be played by someone who is male, white and British.
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>>83672902
it really annoys me that they don't do the mid-season companion thing more often like they did with captain jack and adam in s1

in fact i think the only random character that has temporarily joined the tardis crew mid-series in the moffat era is fucking courtney woods. give me a break
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>>83673684
What are all those dark spots around his neck? Is he OK?
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>>83673739
those are the remnants of the negros he crushed and absorbed
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Why do kids ruin every episode?
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>>83673739
>>83673831

What this anon said.
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>>83673739
He's 82. Age spots: should've used sun block when he was young.
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>>83671582
>listening to big finish
lol
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>>83673908
Why do kids ruin everything?
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>>83673963
What, you read the scripts instead?
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>>83672902
1. yes
2. supposedly regenerates in ep.12 but is still in the christmas special, dunno how
3. dunno
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Doctor Who? More like Doctor Poo.
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Would it have been good, lads?
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>>83674628
That's it. That is the gosh darn straw that broke the frankly patient camel's back. You choose to come in here, a place where we have poured hours of our lives into watching, analysing, and theorising about one of the, if not THE greatest science fiction fantasy drama world history has ever known. Were it not for the relatively small size of our island nation and its population, Doctor Who would be a world phenomenon that would astound the viewing masses with its intelligence and brilliance. I don't exaggerate when I say it's probable that, were the show to be aired in China it would bring the nation to its knees. And yet, in spite of all that, you choose to come in here, in the midst of our dialogue, and spout your HATEFUL, INCORRECT AND SLANDEROUS WORDS LIKE IT'S NO BIG DEAL! Well guess what mist: it IS a big deal. Bigger than you'll ever know. I can't begin to describe how furious I am at your comments; I was prepared to let them slide the first few times, but this has gone on far too long. You're going to know punishment like you've never known before. I know who you are buddy; my uncle is a high-ranking moderator on this site, and my dad has connections with the police. We're coming for you, and it ain't gonna be pretty. I'll set upon you with instruments you'll wish you'd never see again. Know what a sonic screwdriver is? You'll wish you didn't by the time I'm finished with you. You just sealed your own grave; the only thing you can do for yourself now is run. Run, and pray to whatever Gods are out there that I'll extend some mercy upon you. This is it kid. The worst ordeal of your life, and it begins now.
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First Matt in Secret Diary of a Call Girl now this... just how many Doctor cocks did Billie freshen, I guess this confirms the guy from Lewis as No. 14.
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>>83675100
Based Whelan
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>>83675333
Leave my son alone. I'm telling the police
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Whelan browses here kek
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>>83672053
Doctor Mysterio
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IT'S ME NARDIE
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>>83672902
1. There was never an opportunity really, he wouln't have done a full series
2. Christmas
3. Because only a british white male can portray that Doctorrness
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>>83675516
He looks like Gareth. Is this picture of him just after he was erased by Moff and going back in time to stop Doctor Who by acting in show?

I made that joke before I realised that it its photoshoped. Sorry, I'm retarded.
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>>83674045
Can I? Where can I find them?
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>>83675623
easily the single worst thing about this season
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>McCoy appears on Sense8
>It gets cancelled
What did netflix mean by this?
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>>83675845
I think you mean easily the best thing about this season
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>>83675845
normie out
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>>83675845
Fuck off. Nardie brings the party.
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>>83675845
>he isn't a nardolechad
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>>83676548
Just fuck off, Matt.
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GOAT
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THAT SORT OF BANK HOLIDAY MONDAY FEEL
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/series-10-empress-of-mars-advance-review-85219.htm
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>>83677068
at least we're only a week and a few days away from an episode 11 trailer
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>>83677068
CONFIRMED FOR SHIT
"All in all, “Empress of Mars” is at best, a slice of old-school fun. Like with most Gatiss scripts though, it’s unlikely to top many fans’ lists, unless you’re a hardcore Ice Warrior fan"
IF DWTV ISN'T JERKING IT OFF, IT PROBABLY SUCKS.
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Matt Lucas and Pearl Mackie both leave in The Doctor Falls.

Capaldi regenerates at the end of finale. Kris Marshall appears and collapses onto the TARDIS floor.

The Christmas special is set in the Doctor's mind palace and stars Capaldi - it centres around the traumas of regeneration - it's similar to Heaven Sent. David Bradley appears in a fleeting cameo as the first Doctor. At the end of the story, 12 has a conversation with 13 about acceptance of moving on. 12 fades away and we cut back to the TARDIS. 13 is there, but still has Capaldi's eyes which glow gold and fade into Marshall's - this is to mirror Capaldi's first appearance in The Day of the Doctor
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>>83677351
Is it from GB? Fuck offerino but looks like true I must admit
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>>83671798
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>>83677351
Fuck, I'd love this.
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>>83677068
what is a "bank holiday Monday feel"?

The only feel I get on bank holidays is pissed off because everywhere's busy
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>>83677351
explains the lack of an announcement so far
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>>83677351
Sounds really great too bad you made it up.
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>>83677351
I hate this meme
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>>83677351
Moffat said he worked with Chibnall to make the regeneration different. Think this is true
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>>83677351

I'd honestly love for it to be kept hidden until the moment, but I don't think they could keep it secret for so long
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>>83677351
>the Doctor's mind palace
I'm so glad I don't watch Christmas specials
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>>83677859
You are the true kind of retard.
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If Nardole gets turned into a Cyberman, he'd better go "IT'S ME, NARDY"
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>>83677351
Kris Marshall doesn't just appear and collapse. He goes full STRAWBERRY BLONDE!!!

>"I was a good Doctor."
>"Goodbye, Doctor."
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>>83672902
Conceivably, a Doctor who is Welsh, white and male could work
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>>83677688

It's the eighties schedule all over again, basically...run.
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Time Lords have this little trick. Sorta a way of treatin' death. Except...It means I'm gunna change.
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>>83677351
This would be GOAT, but sounds unlikely.
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>>83678147
if that guy were the doctor he'd only last under a minute because the companion would immediately shoot his ugly mug when he came into existence.
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>>83678300
>if
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>>83675845
from one of the most vocal critics on /who/ at the time when Nardole was announced as a recurring character, I disagree. Nardole surprisingly a GOAT.
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>>83674685
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>>83677068
>In fact it comes across as even more old-fashioned, in more ways than one. It’s something that could have fallen straight out of the William Hartnell era.
Don't you fucking play with me, doctorwhotv.
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Hartnell & Troughton & Pertwee & Baker & Davison & Baker & McCoy & McGann & Hurt & Eccleston & Tennant & Smith & Capaldi & Marshall
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>>83678514
>& Hurt
subtle bait.
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remember when matt's final lines and the plot to his entire final story were leaked by the press literally a few days after the 50th anniversary went out
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ICYMI: Moffat's interview with details on Capaldi's regeneration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McTSfbzGw4I
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>>83678604
>"working with Chris Chibnall on how to do it differently"

Xmas is cowritten?
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>>83678663
no, but he has to leave the show in a place for Chibnall to pick it up
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I guess I understand not completely trash canning him yet but, if there's one big change I'd like to see going from the Moffat to Chibnall (a change which Moffat should have made himself when he was claiming his era would be like 'a whole new show' going from RTD's era) it's TO HAVE SOMEONE BESIDES MURRAY FUCKING GOLD DOING THE MUSIC. Even more so, maybe lessen the orchestral score and go for something more electronic (in the modern sense, of course. I'm not asking for something in the style of 80's Who unless a scene or episode calls for it). Hell, if we are going to take influence from classic Doctor Who, maybe have more than one composer working on the show?
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>>83678769
But Murray Gold is one of the few good things this shitty show has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ8Ur2_ODsY
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>>83679275
What was Murray Gold implying in this track?
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KEK

Apparently Chibnall is BANNING the DWSR bunch from filming.

Doesn't want them spoiling the story.
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>>83679514
Isn't it a great thing actually? Almost nothing leaked on Broadchurch at the time it was filming.
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>>83679514
source?
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>>83678663
In The End of Time Moffat wrote the last scene, after the regeneration. Chibs will probably do the same.
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Some will sight and some will cry
Some will lie and some will die
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>there will never be a season 11 ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-; ;-;
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>>83679800
But season 11 already exists. I love The Time Warrior and Invasion of the Dinosaurs!
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What was the monks' ultimate goal?
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>>83679893
i mean season 11 of the new series if it was happening it would already be coming out? where is it? why are they late?
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>>83679974

Why did the Doctor fake a regeneration if Bill doesn't know about regeneration?
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>>83679974
To rule the Earth, I guess.
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>>83679974
Rule the earth for reasons
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>>83680000

Nice quads.

Does the Doctor now have the ability to emit regeneration energy?
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>>83680000
checked
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>>83680030

If he's going to go around wasting regeneration energy why didn't he just fix his eyes?
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>>83680000
to fool the monks who did know about it?
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>>83680058
There were about zero monks in the room
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>>83680055

Wow double dubs!

How did the monks fix the Doctor's eyes?
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>>83678212
How would it even leak? The script's not been finished.
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>>83680058

Why did the monks try to team up with the Doctor instead of killing him?
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>>83680077
what about the ones watching the cameras though?
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>>83680117

Why didn't the monks remove the Doctor's sight as revenge for betraying them?
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Why did the Doctor's plan require six months of preparation?
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Am I the only one who likes the War Doctor?
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>>83680176

How did he "deprogram" the guards?
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>>83677351
This premise sounds alright and could make any inevitable cameos from past Moffat companions work into the story more naturally than the grand death tour in the style of End of Time.
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>>83680139

If the monks could pluck a submarine out of the sea then why couldn't they stop the ship the Doctor was on?
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I've got a better question:
If the monks' simulations can predict the future so accurately that they can foresee a misplaced decimal, why can't they predict the Doctor foiling their plan in Pyramid?
Their technology only starts to react when the Doctor's plan is already working, but how is that possible? They should either have predicted that from the start, or not seen it at all, given that their technology is based on the simulations they already ran, and not on real time data.
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>>83680199
No.
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>>83680241

On that note, if all the monks wanted was a race to revere them and somewhere comfy to live, why didn't they just create an ideal comfy world in their super advanced simulation and rule over that? Or why not just use their powers to predict the future, disarm weapons and cure the sick to actually help the humans instead of just pretending to do so?
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How did Bill link minds with the monk?
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>>83680315
She's secretly Susan.
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>>83680315

Why didn't they just shoot that monk like they did the others?
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Why did the monks move the pyramid?
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Is anyone else suddenly starting to feel hyped for Chibnall? I don't know why but I'm feeling more at peace about Capaldi leaving and just being really excited about a brand new start like 2010. Chibnall's past Who stories haven't been amazing but I feel like he can do something great if he's not restrained by another showrunner.
If it's Kris Marshall I'll be less hyped again though.
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>>83680381
Could be rad, I'm excited
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Why didn't the Doctor just take Bill away in the TARDIS, breaking the link between the monks and humanity without having to kill her?
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>>83680381

I'm excited to see a fresh take on the show and to have someone at the helm that isn't exhausted and out of ideas.
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Her best outfit?
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>>83680374

Why were they even using a pyramid?
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>>83680474

Why was no one guarding the outside of the pyramid?
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>Tegan is trapped under a polystyrene door as her and the Doctor are menaced my a panto horse

Warriors of the Deep isn't actually that bad so far, I thought this was supposed to be the worst serial ever or something
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>>83680447
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>>83680511

Why did they keep their ship on Earth and not in space?
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>>83680554
>>83680447
No,
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Hayley Nebauer (costume designer 2010-2017) is confirmed to leave after christmas special.
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Why was Missy the other "last Time Lord" if Time Lords are back as of last season?
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>>83680598
CLEAN SLATE HYPE
I hope Murray Gold leaves, 12 years is a great run but I think it's time for someone new
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Why did the monks need consent if they were just going to brainwash everyone?
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>>83680666

Nice trips.

If they desperately needed a human link, why did it have to be someone in a position of authority?
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>>83680696

Why did they make no attempt to keep track of the link once they implemented their dystopia?
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>>83680696

The memory changing signal didn't work on Time Lords, was it focused on humans? What about all the zygon immigrants?
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>>83680628
Because no one understands what the fuck is going on anymore
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Why did the monks make everyone wear blue overalls?
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>>83680598
Isn't there a different costume designer every year?
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>>83680628
It was a tongue-in-cheek meta joke about how writers keep referring to him as last of the Time Lords when he never really is.
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>>83680758
because superficial 1984 imagery
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>>83680971
no
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>>83680751

I don't have a clue.

First Gallifrey was destroyed and time locked, then it was frozen in time in a pocket universe - the Doctor put it in this pocket universe but also doesn't know where the pocket universe is. Then it turns out it was behind the cracks, and not time locked or frozen in time because they're interacting with the Doctor and want out.

Then it turns out its actually at the end of time (or something) and the Sisterhood of Karn always knew where it was and the Doctor and others can come and go freely with a TARDIS.

Now they're back to saying he's the last of the Time Lords again.

Have I got this right?
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>>83680598
>Hayley Nebauer
>2010-2017
Literally started this series
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>>83681100
>Have I got this right?
I wish I could give you a proper answer. I don't understand anything either.
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>>83681100
I was hoping that they would stabilise their pocket dimension or something, pull the ultimate in non interference and fuck off from the universe altogether. And if you ever need them for a story they could just open up a giant ass crack in the sky again.
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Did Heaven Sent take place in this thingy? I honestly have no clue where it was set and how Gallifrey was in there behind a wall of diamond or whatever. HELP
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>>83681351
yes it was

now why the confession dial was just lying in the middle of a Gallifreyan desert, i have no idea

I mean the Time Lords deliberately put him in there waiting for a confession, you'd think to put the dial in a secure room in case he breaks out
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>>83681351
>>83681100

Can anyone make sense of this?
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https://twitter.com/DrWhoOnline/status/872538746578767872

Just watched 10.9: Empress Of Mars! Possibly our favourite episode of Series 10 so far! Spoiler-free preview on DWO tomorrow! @Markgatiss
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Cybermen when
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>>83681628
>Possibly our favourite episode of Series 10 so far
Yeah sure mate
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>>83681628
I believe it
Only really liked The Pilot, Oxygen and Pyramid so far, which is strange considering how I was more hyped for this series than usual
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>>83681637
>kill.jpg
Didn't even kill him in that scene
But yeah, I just want a good Cyberman story. Haven't had one since Rise of the Cybermen
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlxEOrOY_Q

This made me realise I like RTD era companion themes million times more than Moffat's.
>>
>>83681628
If I started my own Doctor Who twitter page, would I too be able to view it early?
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>>83681100
"time locked" doesn't mean it's frozen or in stasis or anything. It just means you can't timetravel to it or out of it. apart from dalek cann who managed to force his way through
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>>83681784
Do they get to see the finale early? Really don't want that cliffhanger spoiled
>>
Post yfw we'll never get to watch all the missing episodes and at this point it will be a miracle if even one more is found ;_;
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>>83681885
If they did spoil it, they would get into a shit ton of trouble. So don't worry about them spoiling it.
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>>83672902
How did he know so much about Time Lord engineering?
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>>83682176
I'm surprised nobody has taken the audios and tried to recreate them through animation or something similar.

I'm also surprised the old episodes haven't been colourized yet
>>
>>83677351
I don't want another fucking dream.

I want D1 & D13 teaming up & kicking ass.
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>>83682302
>I'm also surprised the old episodes haven't been colourized yet
why would you want this?
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>>83681772
The only memorable one from Moffat's era is Clara.
Martha and Donna have good themes and Rose's is used well if a bit weaker.
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Last couple series have been shit.

Only Tennant, Tate and RTD can save us now.

SAVE US TENINCH
_________A
________RTD
_________E
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>>83682176
Barbados and Sierra Leone would be the most likely place for some to turn up now.
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>>83682364
I have to disagree. Both Amy's and Clara's are memorable, they just strike you weaker when you hear them. Like, you just feel less emotions when you listen to them, while you just instantly remember those amazing adventures and sad moments when listening to Rose or Martha or Donna theme.

River Song theme is forgettable as fuck though. So is the character mostly.
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>>83682358
Would attract the normies who find black and white too boring, also why not update them?
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>>83672053
Doctor huj
>>
Do you think we'll get thread as alive as it was on Eleventh Hour broadcast?
Is it possible?
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>>83682369
put your trip back on edge lord
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>>83682718
I mean on Chibs first episode. Sorry, fucked up the post:

Do you think we'll get thread as alive for the series 11 first broadcast as it was on Eleventh Hour broadcast?
Is it possible?
>>
>>83682433
>normies
>watching 50 year old episodes of Doctor Who
doesn't really matter what colour they're in, there is zero chance of that ever happening
>>
>>83681867

I was referring to the fact it was specified in DotD that it was "frozen in a single moment."
>>
To me series 1 - 6a are pure kino. I love everything in them and can forgive them everything.

Everything after that are I'm struggling to like, I like it sometimes, sometimes I'm just "ah,this was alright I guess".
Feels sad.
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>>83682762
I'm not a tripfag, I'm a realist.

We need another Tennant and we need a new RTD, and we need to drop Bill, who by the way is a lesbian if the show hasn't already made that clear.
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>>83683075
Remove Series 2 from that selection and I agree. Though I also really like most of Series 9.
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>>83682762
If this was me I'd be pushing for Piper not Tate, Anon :^) I have bad opinions and tastes
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>>83683117
I'm fine with series 2. I think there's a lot of sweet stuff and I even like the finale which is dramatic and epic and fun.

I really dislike most of series 9, I even like series 8 more I think. Heaven Sent is amazing tho.
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tfw I just realized I'd grown so tired of Moffat by series 5 finale that I've rewatched literally none of series 6 through 10 except A Christmas Carol cause that chick is hot and could probably do some interesting things with her throat during a blowjob
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>>83672902
>>83682228
I got the heavy implication he's another Time Lord in hiding. By this point, the Gallifrey was well out of the bag, so it makes sense.
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>>83683180
Christmas Carol is a beautiful script beautifully played and directed. I absolutely adored it back in the day.
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>>83683321
It's shit actually.

The Ghost of Christmas past, present, future thing doesn't work when it'd cause all sorts of paradoxes
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>>83683472
No it's actually good if not great.
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>>83683536
No, it's terrible

Too much timey wimey bullshit
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>>83683536
nah it's shit m9. all bout dem feels in Last Christmas
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>>83683795
It's one of the episodes where timey-wimey is not just a gimmick "look we are complicated show" but a useful plot thing which leads to a really emotional resolution and ending

Overall it's just sweet
>>
Do you think they could actually pull off a surprise regeneration in episode 12, without an announcement of who the new doctor is beforehand? An actual genuine surprise without a press release spoiling it? Is moff going to pull another John Hurt?
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>>83683839
Last Christmas is fine episode but the ending is absolute crap and it's league above Christmas Carol
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>>83683891
Sadly John Hurt was spoiled weeks in advance
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>>83683844
It can be emotional all of wants.

The time shit contradicts too much and is nonsensical on its face
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>>83683950
So you dismiss all the emotional outcome it has (which is fucking rare for Steven "I hate writing side characters" Moffat) just because personally YOU hate time travel and paradoxes and stuff? Okay.
>>
>>83683908
I mean below lmao, sorry
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>>83683942
So what you're saying is I should just abandon /who/ for a couple weeks in case any people who had screeners leaked it
Haven't they cut out key end twist moments from review screener episodes before though?
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>>83683795
>Too much timey wimey bullshit
Maybe you should be watching another show
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>>83684065
They do cut key moments sometimes, but John Hurt was spoiled.
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>>83683908
You mean the ending where 12 is talking with an old clara, and they did all the pottery with the christmas cracker but with roles reversed compared to clara and old 11?
Fuck offerino m8 that was kino
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>>83684106
I mean the part where Clara supposed to leave the show but she didn't
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>>83684124
So you're hating something out of meta knowledge rather than taking the episode as a self contained narrative
>>
>>83683998
Yes.

I'm not sacrificing plot for muh feels
>>
>>83684158
I haven't rewatched it in two years and maybe I'm wrong, but I remember disliking it. Can't give you details right now.

>>83684166
Switch to different show then m8.
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>>83684213
>Switch to different show then m8.
>hurr durr just turn your brain off or quit watching

This is why the show is dying
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>>83684702
The show is dying because you have shit taste and can't actually see that Christmas Carol is one of the Moffat's best scripts
I'm a huge Moffat doubter myself but hating on this episode with "LOL I HATE TIMEY WIMEY " is just pathetic

Now end your life right now
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>>83684759
>hurr durr it's a great script because of the emotion, fuck the plot and premise

LOL
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>>83684759

>being this mad about a low budget failing tv show
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>>83684894
Emotions is the damn ONLY THIGN why people watch shows or play games or talk to other people
Plot is alright and so is premise
You are shit taste incarnate
I bet you like Hell Bent or something
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>>83684971
>retards actually believe this

Hell Bent was shit too you faggot
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>>83685014
Stop greentexting faggot
YOU are the reason the show is dying
Because the only decent scripts current showrunner produces are getting memehated in the hate train without thinking about it
I bet you hate Sarah Jane Adventures or something
>>
>>83685079
>hurr durr, no YOU, you like or hate this other arbitrary thing

Now wonder the ratings are down if this is how retarded the fanbase has to become to enjoy it and this is the level of autism defending it.
>>
>>83684971
Hell Bent was all emotion and low on plot though, that kind of goes against why you're bringing it up
>>
>>83685158
Ratings are down because you have shit taste and you project them into internet you dumb fuck
I bet you hate Torchwood season 2 or something
>>
>>83671582

I liked the time war parts and the War Doctor but the zygon stuff was really out of place for me. I would have preferred the Daleks as focal point to be honest since the whole time war plot is about Timelords vs Daleks.
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>>83685205
>NO, YOU!!!
>more arbitrary things you like or don't like

WEW
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>>83685276
What a greentext my fellow 4chan friend with terrible taste
I bet you didn't read Human Nature VNA by Paul Cornell
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>>83685321
>this whole post

WEW

Reboot fucking when
>>
>>83685462
What a nice little greentext you got here... again!
I bet you've listened to less than 50 main range BF audios, why are you still there?
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I bet you like Hell Bent
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>>83685690
that's me yes
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>>83685690
>
WEW
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So what if we got Emilia to play Clara instead of Jenna?
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>>83686170
A THICC companion?

Diamonds
>>
What's the most violent onscreen death in Doctor Who?
>>
>>83686311
Someone in a Colin Baker story probably.
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>>83686311
Kane from Dragonfire
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Reminder that Nardie is best nuwho companion
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>>83687870
he's up there desu
>>
>>83686311
Does Torchwood count?
If so, Captain Jack's grandson
>>
Why do they keep letting Toby Whithouse write episodes?
>>
>>83688377
Because Matthew Graham isn't allowed
>>
>>83688377
Because they're usually good
>>
>>83688377
Because the worst he's been is decent. He's consistent.
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>>83671644
My mind is made up that it's going to be better than Moffat's era.
>>
>>83672902
>Is pic related the most wasted opportunity to have a great companion?
Christ no. He was the worst part of Mummy. His acting in it was dreadful, I don't think he had a single line that sounded convincing.
>>
>>83677351
>The Christmas special is set in the Doctor's mind palace
>similar to Heaven Sent
Literally an idea we came up with here in /who/
>>
>>83680598
>>83680652
Honestly, the more people I hear are leaving the more excited I get. Not because they're bad but because the show needs a fresh start.
>>
>>83689033
/who/ has had genuine leaks before, like the moon being an egg
>>
>>83689095
Yeah, I know. But the idea of a regeneration episode being set inside the Doctor's mind isn't something that was "leaked" here, it was something that was invented here. I talked about it with somebody ages ago as a neat idea and since then it pops up in these fake leaks sometimes.
>>
>>83688991
That's obvs cus he's the mastermind :^)
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I want to know how this regeneration is going to be different.

How is Moffhack going to ruin a stable of the show since 1963?
>>
>>83677351
It would be so hype if they don't announce 13th and instead reveal him in the S10 finale unexpectedly. I would also commend the BBC on managing to keep 13's identity so tightly secret until the last minute.
>>
>>83689333
>The Doctor dies
>Missy looks at his dead body, takes his screwdriver, fobwatch and psychic paper
>kicks his dead body into a black hole
>Missy then appears in the new series calling herself the doctor and then 12 comes back in the series finale to get his revenge but the new companion believes missy and kills him off for good.
>>
>>83689333
Nothing will ever ruin it more than Romana's regenerations. Not to mention Tennant's hand and Capaldi last episode.
>>
>>83689333
We know capaldi has filmed his "death"
Meaning whatever the cause of his regeneration is, it happens this series, likely in episode 12 which is literally titled "the doctor falls"
What they're doing in the christmas special is anyone's guess. Whether it's 12 holding off his regeneration or it being a gradual process or what, who knows
>>
>>83680381
Are you the same anon who rants about Kris being too ugly for doctor who?
>>
>>83687870
I'm really surprised by how well rounded he is. his character and his head :^)
>>
>>83689404
>master episode
>doctor falls
It's going to be Tom Baker all over again
>>
>>83675333
WHen you look at this picture from a distance, it looks like the dead doctor from Before The Flood
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>Many sources, including Elisabeth Sladen's autobiography, claim Hurndall died before receiving his pay cheque.
>>
>>83689815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9eEk-S6RUc

There have been all kinds of fan fueled retcons that her regeneration was in flux so she didn't really burn through lives but its up there with the Moribus Doctors so make of it what you will.
>>
>>83690115
tardis wiki thing said that she could change her body cause she was still within 15 hours of regeneration like 10 doctor and hand
Pretty far fetched
>>
>>83690233
>tardis wiki thing
aka autistic headcanon
>>
>>83690115
>you can't go around wearing copies of bodies
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>>83690098
JNT smothered him with a pillow to save on budget

>>83690115
>>83690233
To be honest, the burning through regens isn't even the worst part. It's the fact that she seemed to transform into alien species which drastically impacts what regeneration is.
>>
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What was the intended joke here?
>>
>>83690301
FART MONSTERS XD
>>
>>83690115
>classic who
>canon
Stay deluded
>>
>>83690332
here is your response

Enjoy your summer break kid.
>>
>>83690596
Prove that classic who is canon.
>>
>>83690596
>summer break
>in june
What did you mean by that
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>>83691737
female nardie looks no different desu
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Did anyone manage to screenshot Doctor Who TV's cover picture for 'The Pilot'
I missed out on that one. I have all the others. Willing to trade.
>>
>>83692744
I don't save them because it's always some shitty ugly font in a horrible color that doesn't look nice at all
>>
>>83692815
I just Win+Print Screen it when I visit the site so no hassle. But kinda annoying I missed the pilot.
>>
Does the fact that nobody seems to have noticed that I didn't upload last episode of Whovians means we're over it? I stopped watching a couple of episodes back.
>>
>>83692867
why would you

why
>>
>>83693053
I want it!
>>
>>83693053
I stopped watching it too desu
I heard rove in the commercial that they put in the credits of the doctor who episode that they had an interview with pearl mackie this week so maybe it's worth it for that
>>
>>83693108
Do you though?

>>83693159
Apparently last week had an interview with Steven Moffat too.
>>
>>83693212
upload it for the sake of completion anon
maybe some day we'll stream them all on cytube
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>>83690676
The only canon is the Adventure Games, you mong.
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I STAND WITH NOEL
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Does anyone have the chart that shows how many times the sonic was used with each doctor?
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>>83693515
nope I've only got this one
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>>83693515
i've got this
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>>83693640
what about 12?
>>
>>83693650
Old image. No clue mate, you're welcome to do the math yourself if you have the autism to handle it.
>>
>>83693605
>>83693640
Cheers guys. I saw the pic quite a while ago, so I doubt it'll be coming up anywhere soon
>>
>>83693753
My maths is terrible, so I may be wrong, but thus far Capaldi uses the sonic 0.95 times on average per episode.
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>>83693820
>My maths is terrible
At least you can make an estimation. I wouldn't know where to begin.
>>
>>83693515
>>83693605
>>83693640
Oh never mind, I found it
>>
"The Doctor Falls".... into the black hole.

Your guesses?
>>
>>83693837
Divide the number of times the sonic is used by number of episodes. eg. 39 Capaldi episodes divided by 37 instances of sonic usage.
>>
>>83693868
Yea with Tennant and Smith it was just over the top. Buzzing the sonic at things was just a part of their mannerism it was used so much.
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Also found this
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>>83693921
It was painful to witness.
>>
>>83693953
>>83693921
I'm just glad 12 has calmed it down a bit
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>>83693989
Also within the publicity shots too, he isn't pointing it.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__2XLiVrFwo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sprIPWEnWcA

spot the difference
>>
>>83680973
>how writers keep referring to him as last of the Time Lords
They only did that when he "was" the last of the Time Lords
>>
>>83680628
he still calls himself the last of the time lords because it saves a lot of explaining, plus gallifrey's wherabouts are meant to be a secret
>>
>>83690301
Previously Chuck and Company
>>
>>83692744
Why not just save the image?
>>
>>83693240
>>83693108
Whovians Episode 8

Here It Is I Guess Edition

https://mega.nz/#F!9GB3CYrI!XQ0sYoyySM6waCFYdfUTLA
>>
>page 9
NEW THRED WHENNN
>>
New thread, new me, right?
>>83694993
>>83694993
>>83694993
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