/lbg/- Letterboxd General

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What's th best way to watch kino in bed?

>>83550114
Not on your fucking telephone

>>83550145
But I have a galaxy s8

>>83550360

tfw missed the Crank chat in last thread

>tfw forced to shit post because I am too tired to get out off bed

>tfw forced to shit post because I am too tired to get out off bed

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>>83549892
letterboxd.com/albion
vote ukip

Reminder the only good weeb is a dead weeb

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Should I go see WW or perfect strangers (2016) tonight?

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>>83552467
Go see Perfect Woman instead

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>voting

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letterboxd.com/OriginalName3

Be careful not to overdose on kino.

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https://letterboxd.com/farre/

>>83550114
Bed ofc

>>83549892
Uhh, I have only seen two Robert Aldrich movies so ill just say Kiss Me Deadly.

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>>83553878
Why? Seems perfectly safe to me.

>>83553878
overdose on bleach please.

>still no Android app
Fucking hell

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>tfw you have your health but that's all you have

>>83554272
hey you can change pronouns

Reminder that everything Beethoven did was already done by cavemen playing with sticks, and you're anti-music if you think otherwise.

Buncha fuckin' TOOLS

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>>83555183

>>83555229
(You)

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What I want, you've got
And it might be hard to handle
But like the flame that burns the candle
The candle feeds the flame
What I've got's full stock of thoughts
and dreams that scatter
You pull them all together
And how, I can't explain
But You make my dreams come true
On a night when bad dreams become a screamer
When they're messin' with the dreamer
I can laugh it in the face
Twist and shout my way out
And wrape yourself around me
'Cause I ain't the way that you found me
I'll never be the same
'Cause You make my dreams come true
I'm down on the daydream
That sleepwalk should be over by now
I know that You make my dreams come true"

>>83552060
based slept uncucking the uk
oh wait there were two major terrorist attacks in england just in the last week
do something for yer country fagboy

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>>83555591
>believing what the media tells you
Hey, we better invade another country to fight "terrorism" and don't forget to download the newly cracked 4K UHD BD of Patriots Day while you're at it!

>>83555810
you're the same person that though machill is the emily jean poster, baka

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>>83556068
Whatever you say, chief.

>>83555455
Looks like Bruce Melvin and his Jewish boyfriend Winstonne are having relationship problems again

>>83556163
Looks like dropout_gorro and his pack of discord circlejerk assclowns are out of school

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https://letterboxd.com/machill54/

The hearse was pretty boring

>>83556413
wahoo!!!!!!!!!

>>83556510
sadly, not wahoo in this instance

>>83556952
happily, yes wahoo in this instance

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I dislike Malick but i have been thinking about going and seeing song to song, is it worth it?

https://letterboxd.com/FutureDays/

>>83557170
Where's it playing?

>>83557489
Bio rio here in sweden

>>83557170
Pretty sure it's going to be like like his two last films before it. No one has said otherwise so far. If you know you want like it, don't go.
Personally, I wanna see it, but no theater is playing it here

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I'm considering signing up to Letterboxd but I'm hesitant. Is it mostly full of elitist, fart-sniffing movie snobs, or are there some regular bros with better than average taste?

I'm mostly interested in using it as a movie watching journal, and for getting recs. I'm primarily into horror, thriller/mystery and crime.

>>83557990
Worth it for the film diary, watchlist, and list completionism. The main crowd is composed of mostly dumb Tumblr girls but you can surround yourself with whoever. Go here http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Letterboxd.com%2F/ to find profiles.

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>by decade

1910s - 3
1920s - 22
1930s - 39
1940s - 80
1950s - 124
1960s - 148
1970s - 201
1980s - 344
1990s - 541
2000s - 844
2010s - 479

>>83558592
100
200
200
200
400
600
400
400
500
300
1000

>>83557990
Who gives a fuck about the user base. You can journal all you want and get recommendation from the lists and filmogrpahies.

>>83558592
Not bad but could be much better

/jgarron

>>83558717
Well, it's almost 3000 in total. I rarely see anyone with more movies.

>>83558820
Yeah it better than 95% of /lbg/ but I was just thinking it's unbalanced in the 10s, 20s, and 30s.

>>83559083
I know, the 20s-40s are too few, but I only log feature movies and most of the pre-20s are too short to count.

give me kino or give me death

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/thegr1fter

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>>83560612
Giv kino pls

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>>83560612
Viva la kino!

>>83561153
No

>>83561237
Nicholas St. John was the real talent.

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Hey /lbg/
https://letterboxd.com/LeonDeon/

>>83563420
Hey man, what would you have done in that guy's position? I would've slept until I was a kid and then role-play with a mommy gf

>>83563560
Nah I'm not into that anon. I would just enjoy it every time I got to be a qt Asian girl.

>>83563618
I'd write my name on my hundreds of different tiddies and brag to my online friends

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https://letterboxd.com/neural99/

>>83564152
Damn is Free Fire is that good?

>>83564152
>only 3 stars for Crank

Hot take: the remake of death race with jason statham is actually good

>>83549892
>>only 3 stars for Crank
Its aesthetic works for a few minutes but gets tedious. Was really sick of it by the end.

>>83561153
ah-bloo-bloo

>>83564448
It's good fun and silly in the right way.

>>83564448
no

>>83564921
is this cinebro

>>83565026
jeez louise papa cheese

>>83565109
no

Free fire was a lot better than Crank familam.

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>>83565324
they're hardly comparable

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is my girlfriend retarded

Crank is a Wagner opera: pompous, self-gratifying, indulgent. Free fire is a Puccini opera: self-assured, restrained, destillied.

Emily Jean's movies >>>>>>>>>> Crack = Free Fure

>flicks like Crank and Free fire are the equivalent of Puccini and Wagner
And this why film is and will always be superior art form

>>83566676
Emily Jean's films are the equivalent of God.

>>83549892
>Robert Aldrich
>>83550114
>>83553842
>The Cremator
>>83556413
>If he hollers, let him go
>>83561022
>blood massacre
>>83564152
>The most dangerous game

I'm nailing down the taste of /lbg/ and I notice a trend. Also, notice a trend of why people tend to not like Chaplin here. Most of the movies /lbg/ likes deal with murder, aggression, insanity, cynicism, and the general worst of humanity. The question is "does /lbg/ only rate a film highly if it piles on these elements" and "how do those elements make a film better let alone more complex". Is Chaplin therefore garbage because his films don't apply to /lbg/'s thinking.

>>83566934
Wrong. Enjoy hell, blasphemer.

>>83567013
THIS IS BLASPHEMY
THIS IS MADNESS

>>83564152
Also
>favorite films are Godard's worst movie and a Spaghetti western

>>83552060
How could you say you want to watch the best films and learn about the medium but haven't watched Citizen Kane or Magnificent Ambersons. What's with the gookshit

>>83566978
i like chaplin

>>83567352
But at best you'd give one of his flicks 3 1/2 stars because they lack the required amount of gore, aggression, and cynicism

>>83567192
I've seen citizen kane
I like slow contemplative films so I tend to watch a lot of them

>>83567192
That's because Orson Welles is shit. War Kong Wai long surpassed him. Even Wai isn't that good.

>>83567599
>Wai
what's it like to be retarded

>>83566978
I just like horror movies..
What I've seen of Chaplin though has been pretty good.

>>83567500
i gave the gold rush 4 stars

>>83567526
Why do you only watch the gook ones. Also static shots of people looking at walls is the cinematic equivalent of not trying. I could fucking do that. Even double exposures is nothing new.

>>83567760
I don't know what you want from me

>>83567732
>The Gold Rush
So you're just looking for entertainment.

The Kid and a Woman from Paris are by far his best 20's films

>>83567075
>Insulting Sergio Leone
Now you are just trying too hard

>>83567760
>I could fucking do that.
but you didn't. it's the same argument people made against Jackson Pollock, and it's just as invalid now as it was then

>>83567807
i only look for entertainment. i hate gore, aggression, and cynicism

>>83567785
I want you to read a fucking book (not Wikipedia). Actually learn about techniques, blocking, technical developments in cameras and get some better taste.

>>83567986
but i like wikipedia (not books)

>>83568021
Read an e-book then.

>>83567986
Ok thank you for adopting me as your pupil
What books should I get?

>>83567835
They weren't even the first ones to do "static shots of looking at walls" though

>>83568059
i like e-books (not paper books)

>>83567599
>War Kong Wai
got me

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D-delet this.

>>83568073
>>83568021

These for starters

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0205644554/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2W6F74JH6U0TE&coliid=I2WG1TS35MCMG1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0719070015/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1M8V6BFI2JI36&colid=2W6F74JH6U0TE

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D-don't delet this.

>>83568262
Delete what

>>83568128
>>83567631
Already said Wai is pretty shit, but even he is better than Orson Welles
>muh rosebud
>muh money doesn't buy happiness and simplistic as fuck themes
>muh stolen techniques

Emma stone is ugly as fuck

>>83568325
This shit looks boring. Got a summary

>>83568568
>Wai
>again
please stop embarrassing yourself

>>83568640
No there are no summaries. You said you wanted to academically study film. No Wikipedia to save you

>>83568540
ur face m8

>>83568568
We're making fun of what you think his name is dummy

>>83568610
god you're horrible, faggot. typical underage s4sgoing shithead. standard-issue dumbfuck. another miserable pissant without the slightest clue as to what a blessing emily jean has been and is being upon the world. doesnt understand the indelibly cherished impact this gleaming, distinguished beautiful human being has had on the planet at large. of course garbage posters like this aren't keen to look into that, either. they're hard-wired to yak up the same old memes til they just aint funny no more, so their opinions are natural extensions of the omnipresent bought-out 4chan meme-machines latest propaganda efforts put forth to salvage scrap flesh from their increasingly irrelevant carcasses. like fucking clockwork. you LOSER ass, go to hell

>>83568660
War kong-wai whatever its a gook name. He's shit too but not as shit as orson welles

>>83568762
it's fucking Wong Kar-wai, dude, come on

and if you're going to refer to him by his surname? Wong. not Wai. jesus fucking christ

>>83568325
The first one sounds interesting. The second not so much. Care to attempt and "sell" it to me? What is it actually good for?

>>83568762
>War kong-wai
This is more pathetic than "dialouge"

>What are your favourite Robert Aldrich films?
Kiss Me Deadly, Vera Cruz, Ulzana's Raid, Baby Jane, Autumn Leaves. Massively underrated.

>>83568568
>this reductionism
'Sup, brainlet

The QotD should be "Is Orson Welles shit and does Citizen Kane deserve to be called the greatest film ever made"

inb4 but Vertigo
Hitchcock is shit as well and that was just a meme vote.
>muh soft focus
>muh dolly zoom
>muh chasing a girl that's already been done a million times in noirs

>>83568996
>>83568949

>>83568568
>>83568996
>"muh"
You're not old enough to post here.

>>83568893
Good flicks, I need to re-watch Autumn Leaves. Have you seen The Legend of Lylah Clare?

>>83554051
Kiss Me Deadly is GOAT.

>>83568803
You want to watch flicks of people staring at walls and pretending to be patrician. Well, this is a modern evaluation of the importance of realism in film

>>83564448
It's not, really. idk if Wheatley's total lack of spatial awareness was a bad stylistic choice or just plain incompetence, but either way, it's no way to shoot a single-location action movie. The cast looked like they were having fun at least.

>>83569029
>>83569044
Found the Hitchcockbabbies. Keep watching mediocre B-movie thrillers, plebs

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>>83569162
you know I haven't responded because i'm actually reading that book you suggested right
I have no idea as to who you're talking to rn

>>83569106
Been meaning to watch Lylah Claire for a while, it and Apache are at the top of my to-do list.

>>83569218
Buzzwords are not arguments.

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>>83569106
>Kiss Me Deadly is GOAT
No, get better taste. Pic-related is shit but at least it's better than the garbage you suggested

>>83569304
I like Hustle, but it's not nearly as good as KMD. Do you have an actual argument for why KMD is shit or are you just another posturing retard?

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>>83569303
No, but doing nothing new is. And I already said Hitchcock didn't do shit that was new

>inb4 muh British silent
There were millions of thrillers in the 20's that used all of Hitchcock's techniques. Check some of the Germans and Russians.

>>83569364
Can you name anything KMD did new. No, you can't.

>>83569495
We've already went over originalism, PUNQ.

>>83569297
>watching American """"films""""

>>83569532
Make an actual argument or fuck off.

>>83569615
Get out commie

>>83569625
>babbie gets mad because he knows he's wrong
keep crying

>>83569645
Slept doesn't watch American flicks

>>83569304
>t. hasn't seen kiss me deadly

>>83569753
Slept is a degenerate weeb, no surprise.

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>>83569590
Not him but he's kind of right. A lot of stuff praised was already done before. /v/ is actually good in this regard since they shit on unoriginal games like uncharted, gears of war, and last of us because they know 3d tps's were already done by max payne, and winback

>>83569532
Narratively the subversion of the archetypal noir detective by portraying Hammer as a greedy narcissist was pretty groundbreaking, and the erratic jump cuts in the finale were highly influential to the FNW.

>>83569775
>t. hasn't seen more than 10 noirs
Explains being easily impressed by KMD

>>83569923
>/v/

You have to go back.

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Why does /lbg/ not talk about direct cinema at all?

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>>83569923
not familiar with GOW but aren't ND's games heavily story based? What would it matter what Windsock did before?

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>>83569946
>Bad protags
Already done in Angel and the Badman. Same shit different paint.

>jumpcuts


>French New Wave
you really listen to those hacks? They didn't do anything new either.
>muh handheld camera
Already done in 1915 by Reginald Barker
>movies about nothing
The Crowd 1928

400 Blows is literally Childhood of Maxim 1938.

>breaking 4th wall
been done since the advent of cinema, done a lot by Chaplin later on.

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>>83569946
jumpcuts already done LaRoue

looks like frenchies don't know their own cinema

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I love BTFO-ing pseuds that read Wikipedia and learn their film history from FNW

>>83570435
You're gonna die someday.

>>83570435
>>83570325
>>83570238
>>83569495
Fake megaautist

>>83570528
naw, i think his ban expired today

>>83570528
Not sure...If he was banned Thursday for this http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83440556/#83443026, today would be when his ban expires and he'd be back at it.

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>>83570583
>>83570528
>knowing I was banned
Nice obsession

>>83570583
Nope, different typing style, points to films he would hate and refers to a 1947 film as the first film with a bad protagonist. When it had already been done in the 30's. Plus the images along with each post don't have the same type of filenames the real megaautist uses.

Seems off to me.

>>83570659
it's hard not to know you were banned when the post you were banned for involved murdering me slowly

>>83570528
>>83570583
>>83570606
>caring this much about some retard on the internet

Re-evaluate your life.

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>>83570687
>conveniently ignoring that you were btfo and that Hitchcock nor Aldrich did anything new or noteworthy

>>83570687
He's trying to hide his true psychotic self, but you can see it peeking through, calling things garbage and people babbies, etc. Just a matter of time before he's threatening to murder you in front of your family, I'll wager.

I wonder how PUNQ's wife reacts when his speakers start blaring at midnight waking her up with his porn of nigger babies.

>>83570785
I didn't post that.

>>83570727
>caring what other people do on the internet
Take your own advice or stop posting.

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>PUNQ when he sees nigger babies

>>83571000
Re-evaluate your life please. I'm trying to help you.

>>83571119
What are you going to do if I don't? Murder me?

>>83571119
Why don't you take your own advice and lead by example?

>>83569753
my fav film is the last picture show tied with bell diamond, both films are american

>>83571460
whoops left my /tpg/ trip on
streaming at nausea.club btw, ep 4 is on rn

>>83571460
>!pww.X/1uYI
Why is this ancient tripcode being resurrected?
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/38122658/#38123266
Do you still like dogs?

>>83563420
>south korean "cinema"

lmao, Isiah Medina loved Wonder Woman

>>83571460
Peter Bogdanovich's worst film. Even he acknowledged he doesn't know why people keep saying it's his best. And I need to know what's your obsession with Jon Jost. The guy didn't do anything formally new. You shit on Altman, but at least Altman precedes Jon Jost by several decades.

>>83571582
fug, have to change my pw now
I do like dogs though
>>83571631
i'm not jon jost poster, he hasn't even seen bell diamond
also I don't care what bogdanovich thinks, still love that movie

I shit on Altman.

Granted Altman didn't really do anything new either since Rules of the Game, Magnificdent Ambersons, Rio Bravo, Red River, Stagecoach, and Intolerance already exist.

>>83570182
>Bruce Melvin and his Jewish boyfriend Winstonne are /v/edditors
Color me shocked *rolls eyes*

>>83571721
>color me shocked
>not being already colored
Anon is a white supremacist holy shit

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And my personal favorite, Night World, also preceded Altman

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>still posting when you gave up

http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83435013/#83435962

>>83571950
I'm still awaiting that essay arguing why Marcel Hanoun and Jon Jost are superior to Godard and Altman respectively. You can't shit on Jonas Mekas since he came first

>>83571697
AHAHAHAHAHA o man ya funny

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amdi's a pseud avant-teen anyway who cares.

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>>83570687
Also, I didn't imply Angel and the Bad Man was the first with a bad protag. We can go further easily. 1931 for example

>>83572030
See >>83571950

You already gave up.

>>83572324
You already gave up wen you challenged me Amdi. I simply know more than all of you. I will outclass you every time, it's futile.

>>83572384
who cares

I am leaving now. I will return at an unannounced time.

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>>83572443
You do.

gg fag you killed the thread

>>83573312
Killing was already done by Cain, he is such a hack.

>>83573523
This. Stalin wasn't a good mass-murderer because Cain did the first murder

>>83565109
you mean cinemissus

200th post!

>>83574245
Pretty bad, huh?

>>83574673
congratulations

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is my dog retarded

>>83574795
worts decision of my LIFE

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Guess the film.

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>>83574904
my dog is worse

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>>83574186
Not him but he's kind of right. A lot of stuff praised was already done before. /v/ is actually good in this regard since they shit on unoriginal games like uncharted and last of us because they know 3d tps's were already done by max payne, winback, tomb raider and gears

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>>83575031
Did someone say Windsock?

>>83574993
Kill me, Pete

>>83575147
gimmy a date with emily jean and ill do what you like

>>83575102
Oh Emily Jean :/

>>83575223
I must find Windsock!

Hi I'm Bruce Melvin and I'm patrician :3

>>83576395
ROFLMAO

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>>83576395
>:3
Faggot

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>>83576435
Bruce is totes patrician

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>>83576505
Dark Emma
>>83576530
Light Emma

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>>83576615
Blacked emma

>>83576434
>>83576505
>>83576530
>>83576615
>>83576666
she's so cute :3

You like this music /lbg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ROK8RtOD8

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>>83577371
i don't like music at all.

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>>83577371
'salright. not as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJOjTNuuEVw

I wonder how PUNQ's wife reacts when she eats food cooked by him and he didn't even wash hands after fisting his nigger babies.

I wonder how PUNQ's wife reacts when she comes home and sees all the Picasso paintings in the house replaced with those of nigger babies

>>83577594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YytpfVcyDZg

Did you like this one?

If you didn't like the finale to The Leftovers you're probably an autistic dickless fuccboi who has no friends or family.

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>>83577902
why would they have picasso paintings?

>>83577910
'salright. not as good as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgqD4xcsFig

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>>83578186
me

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>>83578773
>>83578186
Pic-related is what PUNQ thinks he looks like

letterboxd.com/ReneEsquerra/

>>83579165
You don't know PUNQ personally, so what you are suggesting is a fictional scenario

>>83579398
Nice fragile ego, PUNQ

>>83579434
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1EVCNBzO-UY

>>83579574
wonder where he found this

PUNQ likes minions

>>83580334
Correction: PUNQ likes nigger babies. Anything otherwise is merely tangential to the prior

>>>/s4s/5463290
>>>/s4s/5463296
Looks like Winstonne (Bruce Melvin's Jewish boyfriend) is having a hard time coming to terms with his homosexuality and ran away from home.

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>I think that any work of art, not just a film, is a mystery. I think it was Cocteau who said that it should reveal its secrets slowly.

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>>83581472
The Bohemian Girl reveals its secrets slowly. Is it an art film amdi

>>83570238
how is The Crowd "about nothing"

>>83572175
kek

>>83582053
I know right. How is any film about nothing. if you can describe what happened in words, it's about something. A black screen is nothing.

>>83582160
a black screen is still something in its determinate negation

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Kino

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>>83582379
>>83582053
Guys check out a clip of my new ultra-minimalist kino. I'm gonna win Cannes next year.

>>83582430
Get better taste and watch real kino

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Which is more kino /lbg/

Griffith-core like pic-related (i.e. dense 3 hour plus films with multiple characters, all cinematic techniques, and simultaneous events that span centuries)

or Amdi-core >>83582638 (i.e. ultra-minimalism and cinematic equivalent of not trying)

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It's honestly hard to think of a film better than Intolerance, Greed, Tabu, The Crowd, or Sunrise.

>>83582955
I can. Griffith is hokey as shit. Look at that fucking poster.

>>83582955
La chute de la maison Usher (Epstein)

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>>83583198
That's the most kino poster ever made. A close next one would be pic-related

>>83582955
>>83583248
I doubt megaautist would use reddit lingo such as kino, stop faking.
When he's really back we'll know.

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>>83583200
I knew somebody was going to post one of the basic French impressionist films they found off Wikipedia. If you wanted to sound like you knew anything about silent films you would've suggested Sheer Trickery, Gallery of Monsters, Pan Tadeusz, Blue Jeans, Our Heavenly Bodies, Typhoon etc. but you don't know any of those and are probably adding them to your watchlist right now

>>83583435
>If you wanted to sound like you knew anything you'd have had the exact same taste in films as me

>>83583435
so Epstein is basic but Griffith is not?

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And if you really knew anything you'd know these trickery techniques were already perfected by 1917

>>83583335
>knowing reddit lingo
You have to go back.

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>>83583473
Yes, Epstein is basic when wasn't even the first impressionist, and the leading critic of the impressionists already stole all their techniques from Griffith, John H Collins, Reginald Barker, etc. You can even read their reviews for American films in the late teens.

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But no, we don't do reading unless it's skimming through Wikipedia to find a flick to add to a watchlist

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Look at me I'm Hitchcock!

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Look at me I'm Sunrise!

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Look at me I'm Sunset Boulevard!

>>83583804
>>83583923
>>83584011
>Look at me I'm a massive faggot!

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Look at me I'm Satoshi Kon!

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Look at me I'm Ozu!

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LOOK AT ME I'M CLINT EASTWOOD

It's ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE, I KNOW
MORE THAN ALL OF YOU

BE FUCKING ORIGINAL AND QUIT PRAISING REINVENTIONS OF THE WHEEL

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Also reminder Griffith did everything first and best

>Griffith didn't make the first essay films
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/83409194/#83434218

Ah but he did according to academics.. Love BTFO-ing plebs. Never gets old.

>>83584295
>Ah but he did according to academics
[citation needed]

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/lit/ says start with the Greeks

Well, /lbg/ ought to start with Muybridge

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>>83584336
If none of you know the significance of A Corner in Wheat, then why did /lbg/ film club watch it together

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If /lbg/ doesn't know anything, why do you consistently try to challenge me. I will always know more than you. I have more academic training and have tens of thousands more than you

>>83556413
Thanks wouldn't have known otherwise since you don't write reviews or rate your shit. Unfollowed!

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To plainly put it, I'm better than you /lbg/. Always have been always will be.

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>>83584887
Nah, your "taste" in modern films is essentially embryo -levels of shit. It outs your experience with film as very limited, narrow minded and overall useless outside of your very small point of interest.

>still trying to pick fights when you gave up and ran away with your tail between your legs

>>83584985
I knew you would constantly bring up that list. I even made a remark predicting this exact outcome before posting it. It's funny because it's not even anything to be ashamed of, those were simply the best recently released movies I saw in theaters last year (Jackie, Sully, Other People), pretty good mature adult films.

>they didn't do anything formally new
Neither did any of the flicks you'd suggest.

>Chinese melodrama
>a collection of someone's skype calls
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/82548103
Once again, let me point you to the all-new ultra minimalist kino I have created.
>>83582638
A breakthrough in cinema

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>formal innovation
Remember boys

Goodnight! *KISS*

>>83550114
I had to do a history report on that guy

I messed up the link. The Chinese melodrama and collection of skype calls I'm referring to are Mountains Depart and No Home Movie. Someone high and mightily asked why they weren't mentioned in a thread when arguing with someone over the best films released recently as if they were some massive breakthroughs and people were plebs if they didn't hear of them

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>>83584985
Also
>narrowminded
>useless
How are silent films useless if they are distinctly visual experiences.
I can admit early talkies is probably a small point of interest, but I wouldn't even classify that as useless. That transition period is one of the most interesting, mystifying, mythic, and consequential in the history of the medium.

>>83586041
Your reading comprehension went fubar. I said it is useless outside of your narrow field of focus, much like vulgar autism fucks are useless outside of their meme films.

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I especially say mythic because there are so many myths about it. Myths perpetuated by people that have never watched over 5 early talkies. They lie that the camera just stopped moving altogether and reverted back to early 1900s. But that's a complete and utter lie. Right smack dab on 1929, there were numerous films with seemingly effortless camera movement, crazy crane shots and long takes that rival any "modern" film's. ALso, plenty that implemented intelligent uses of shadows and off-kilter angles.

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They lied to you and said there was no on-location shooting in the early talkies as well. No shots of cars on real pavement. All hoopla!

>>83586070
How is it useless though. That's like saying Henry James and Shakespeare is useless. You could make the argument, I assume, that literature hasn't really evolved much since 20's. Well, I say film hasn't evolved much if at all since the 30's.

Also, there is no such thing as a "vulgar auteur" when Hitchcock and Howard Hawks were generally considered vulgar compared to Academy directors like William Wyler, King Vidor, John Ford, George Stevens, and Elia Kazan. They were only elevated because of their personal consistency, broad reach, and integral linkage to the evolution of form and the young (emphasis on the young critics) Cahiers critics' elimination of genre bias due to genre films featuring elements found in "arthouse" and them having a close connection to projected American consciousness. But Bazin didn't even care for Hitchcock or Howard Hawks all too much. It was the young ones that went onto become directors that combatted with Bazin's theories. To them, cinema was about cultural photographic preservation as well but not realism entirely. Instead, it was whatever mode fitted the work being presented and cinema acted as a realm between fantasy and reality (a projection of a person's or a country's collective dreams), so using all techniques like jump cuts was preferred by them as opposed to Bazins feelings on dejected camera that acts as observer, long takes, little editing, and frame duplicity . TSPDT tends to look at things through the lenses of the young critics while academics tend to look via Bazin's. That's why I found it funny that someone said William Wyler was underrated when what he really means is by TSPDT. Bazin praised Wyler's directed films immensely and associated them along with Roberto Rosselini's, Orson Welles', and Jean Renoir's as the peak of the modern sound cinema.

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What people often don't realize is if you observe DW Griffith's entire filmography, he was a master of both modes of theory (Bazin's and young critics') He had acting divorced from stage, long takes, dejected observing camera, realist content, spontaneity as well as thrillers projecting country's history, hopes, dreams, projections of his own internal struggles, implemented jump cuts to show emotional state, unmotivated camera movement. To take it even further he made cinematic poems, neorealist films, film essays, pioneered character over plot, tragic comedies, and all elements of montage. Mind you, he did largely all of these things first, and it's tough to think of what he didn't do in his over 500 film oeuvre.