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The Boys cinematic universe when?

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The Boys cinematic universe when?
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>>83515901
Supposedly we're getting a TV show.
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>>83517700
Vinnie Jones as Butcher?
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>>83518164
My only concern is that Vinnie Jones is too old to play Butcher. Otherwise I bet if her were to grow his hair out and clean up a bit, he could pull it off.
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>>83515901
It looks pretty edgy
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>>83518764
That page is a culmination of many many things that came before. But yeah, it's a pretty edgy series.
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>>83518764
The series is set between 2006–2008[1] in a world where superheroes exist. However, most of the superheroes in the series' universe are corrupted by their celebrity status and often engage in reckless behavior, compromising the safety of the world. For this reason, a superpowered CIA squad, known informally as "The Boys", is charged with monitoring the superhero community; the name is Butcher's contribution, a reference from his neighborhood that those in power would send "the boys" to handle anyone causing trouble.
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>>83515901
>Some irrelevent leftie britbong's ultra-edgy fanwank over superpowered britbongs beating up Not!DC and Not!Marvel

Fucking edgy teenage fanfic tier.
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>>83519606
I didn't ask for the plot
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>>83519606
>his neighborhood

That's a generic English term. It's also cringey as fuck for him to call his unit that. It'd be like some black American calling his unit 'The Gangstas'.
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>>83519698
This. Marshall Law already told this story.
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>>83518764
pic related >>>> the Boys
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anyone have a link to where I could find this comic?
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>>83519759
>I didn't ask
not all about you, precious

>>83519770
fair enough...but its a pretty cool take on superheroes...if youre into superheroes
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>>83518764
It's edgy as fuck, but it's a decent edge, not just pointless murderfest, there are some neat moments and characters too. It helps that protag is the opposite of edge.
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>>83519770
The founder was thinking of calling it "team X" or some generic shit like that, saying it didn't matter at all what they were called, it was just for the paperwork (they are funded by the CIA after all). Butcher suggested why not just call it "the boys" at that point.
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>>83519957
>respond to an anon's post
>say its not about the anon
You are an idiot.
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>>83519856
Yes Warren Ellis is great. Thank you for the observation.
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>>83519949
>google maps
>search your closest comic library
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>>83519856
Is Supergod that one where the Brits have a giant mushroom monster from SPEHS?
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>>83519949
>http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Boys
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>>83520026
i didnt say its not about the anon...i said its not ALL about the anon...posts are public, brainchild...anyone could find something relevant in them
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>>83519856
Supergod has intriguing ideas and I like it a lot, but No Hero is literally if The Boys was only the shitty edgy shit without any of the character or plot. Warren Ellis is good, but that was one of his flops.
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>>83520082
thanks senpai
>>83520048
kys senpai
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>>83519856
>>83515901
Superior edgecore that should be adapted coming thru
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>>83520253
Is this actually good? Quitely is GOAT, but Millar, eh...
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>>83520105
Your post didn't have anything to do with the person you replied to so why did you reply to them like a fucking moron?
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When do they crack open a cold one
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>>83520320
he said it was edgy...that could be good or bad...in case he was interested, the synopsis was there...if he wasnt, maybe someone else was...youre taking a great interest in my posting habits...im flattered

i like you anon
youre sassy
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Sandman cinematic universe when?
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>>83520495
when Gaiman dies. he will never let his best work get put to screen without having an impossible level of creative control.
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>>83517700
Is the Female gonna get turned into a bigger?
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>>83519856
Supergod is the most fucking retarded comic I've ever read. What a steaming pile.
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>>83520311
Millar is incredibly HIT OR MISS but this is legitimately good.
It's like he's talking his time to actually plan things through while Quietly draws it up. It takes months of an issue to come out.

I was just going through the wiki and it looks like this is getting an adaptation.
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>>83519856
Black Summer is just fap material for the anti bush crowd.

Ellis is just a politically impotent cucks that likes to write lots of stories about political coups for he does not agree with.

He did it in authority, he did it transmit, and he did it in black summer.

I used to find it interesting in my 20s. Now, not so much.

He is far better when he is writing crime or scifi that barely touches politics
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>>83520424
>he said it was edgy that could be good or bad

He obviously meant it in a negative connotation, nobody who has ever called something edgy on 4chan meant it in a good way. How socially retarded are you to not pick up on that?
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>>83520765
maybe it was negative...maybe it wasnt...maybe no one has ever meant it in a good way...maybe someone has...maybe theres a first time for everything

i think i know what this is really about...youre upset i was talkin to your boyfriend
and im sorry
:D
now we can be friends
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>>83520764
t. bush crowd
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>>83520871
This is such a cringy attempt at being "clever"
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>>83520342
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>>83520871
holy shit, don't ever post here again
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>>83520928
you think im clever?
>>83520973
nope...im a rebel like that
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Uber is the superior edgy gore comic.

Wouldn't work as a tv show, maybe as a movie. Plenty of scenery gorn/monument destruction, you could do it as an R rated Independance Day with Nazi superheroes instead of ayys
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>>83520612
I never understood why America had the worst god
>China has a fucking fleshbending Cthullu in human shell
>India has Dr Manhattan
>UK has a giant fungi monster
>America has a nuclear powered android who cant even fly...?
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>>83521631

He was intended to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ.
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>>83521691
but all he did was punch a russian robot and then gay kiss Krishna
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>>83521733

Well yeah, I agree relatively speaking he was lame, but that's what he was intended to be. That kiss with Krishna was supposed to be the sign of creating a peaceful world finally which they would likely have done if not for America's other supergod which was the pretty cool Dajjal, that creature that was on all possible timelines at the same time.
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>>83515901
Why does Ennis really fucking hate superheroes.
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>>83521971
I honestly don't blame him.

If you think about the moral backbone of the average person you wouldn't like superheroes either.
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>>83521971
Cause he's normal person
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>>83521631
Krishna best god.
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They better cast Simon Pegg in whatever they decide to do.
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>>83522055
>If you think about the moral backbone of the average person you wouldn't like superheroes either.

This is a good reason, but he doesn't actually abide by this, he just says he does.

The Boys still have super powers, it's still a small handful of moral and exceptional people holding 'baddies' to account.

Plus he fellates soldiers like nobodies business, to the point where he elevates them to what is essentially superhero status.
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the fuck
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>>83522482
I'm still kinda pissed about Mother, Girl and Frog
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>>83522482

>tfw homelander literally dindu nuffin until he thought he did sumfin so he did sumfin
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>>83522580
That shit was hilarious.
I get what Ennis was going for but i'm not sure if he was going for comedic or what.
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>>83522441
The Boys aren't moral though, MC is but the rest of them? I don't really remember what MM's deal is, but Female is a psycho, Frenchie is inane, and Butcher is, well, Butcher.

> he fellates soldiers like nobodies business
Yeah, he does that a lot.
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What people seem to forget when comparing The Boys to other edgy superheroes is that The Boys is meant to be a black comedy. I doubt that the TV show will be able to combine comedy and "realistic" superheroes in an entertaining way; it's doomed to fail.
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>>83522268
its funny because its pretty agreed that we need to hyper industralize and kill of most of the population but we cant "do" that. But Krishna can
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Garth Ennis is a hack that only produces edgy garbage. I read crossed and dropped it after 3 issues. In trying to prove that comics aren't for children gareth ennis swung too far. Overly gratuitous violence and sex is just as juvenile as standard comic book fare.
You cannot refute this.
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>>83518764
What's wrong with edgy?
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>>83523074
They're more far, far moral than the people they go after.

We're repeatedly told The Female is 'psychotic' but we never see her hurt anyone who doesn't deserve it, nor really demonstrate any behaviour associated with psychopaths. She's a sociopath in the same 'good guy who murders people', audience-friendly way that Dexter is, not an actual sociopath.

Same with Frenchie, he's clearly detached from reality, but still fundamentally moral and in control of his actions, you never see him suddenly snap and break Hughie's arms because he thought they were made of snakes, or randomly slaughter a bunch of civilians with his super strength because a firework triggered memories of his days in the Legion, for example, so whilst he's very eccentric in his behaviour and violent if provoked (yet never demonstrates a short temper), he's still very much sane by real-world standards.

'Psychopathic' and 'insane' apparantly mean 'a bit wacky' in Ennis' mind.

Mother's Milk and Hughie are both full-on lawful good.

Butcher is basically just the Punisher with super powers. Tragic backstory to justify the people he attacks? Check. Military background to make his sprees seem professional and sympathetic? Check. Gets accused of going to far, but the people who do this are either too weak or corrupt to do WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE™? Check. Ultimately vindicated in his violence? Check.

He's really the only morally grey one, but even then, we're repeatedly shown just how much the people he hurts/kills deserve everything he does to them, at least until the very end of the comic.

They're just a super hero team with the dark 'n gritty filter turned up a few notches. When Ennis says he hates super heroes, he just means his hates bright colours (other than 'arterial red') and criminals being put into prison rather than a closed casket.
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>>83523294
Yeah. It's a bit like all the worries about the creation of AI super-intelligences. They created a super-human intelligence, gave it super-human capabilities, then told it to solve a problem.

And it did. They just didn't like the solution.
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>>83523310
He said he created it out of frustration of how so many nerds think a zombie apocalypse would be cool and they'd run around killing hundreds of slow, easily killable zombies, saving qt grills who wouldn't talk to them before and having a great time. He wanted a version where no one would ever imagine it as fun.
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>>83523519
Nothing, if you're under the age of 14.
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>>83523751
Isn't attributing arbitrary subjective values to maturity, beyond being independent and self-sufficient, in itself a sign of immaturity?
King of like kids staying up late because it's the "mature thing to do which makes them look mature".

You still haven't answered my question though, you merely sidetracked it into discussing your insecurity in yourself concerning with personal image and narcissism.
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>>83519949
yes, it's called Amazon.com
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>>83523310
Crossed isn't the only thing Ennis done. I liked Punisher MAX the most out of his stuff I read. Boys was okay too, but a bit too full of itself. Preacher got too preachy for me, ironically. Never had any desire to read Crossed.

>>83523602
I'm kind of sorry my post made you write such a long rebuttal. I mean yeah, you're right though Butcher does snap in the end but that's why he needed Hughie for, but I guess it makes sense if you consider that that's how Ennis writes flawed characters? I mean, maybe it's the marketing angle he hates with super-heroes, The Boys' ones are just a product, after all.
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>>83523903
>Isn't attributing arbitrary subjective values to maturity

No, that's basically what defines maturity.
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>>83524207
>Hurrr pay for it

Someone already gave him the link to read it for free, you wagecuck.
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>>83524718
So narcissism and egoism define maturity?
I think that's a pretty pitiful outlook which is at the core of the problem of depression and anger management issues growing exponentially from the teenage years and onward.
Midlife Crisis comes as a result of realizing that such mindset is idiotic, and i think it's better to cut such mental poison early rather than wait for half your life to pass until you grow out of your 2nd teenage faze - "adulthood" with strong emphasis on the Irony punctuation.
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>>83522580
I felt so bad for him after that. The look on his face after he finds out is damn near heart breaking.
Butcher's and the Army's final fight with Black Noir makes it all worth it tho.
>>83518358
>tfw Simon Pegg probably wouldn't sign on to play Hughie and he's too old now, anyway
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>>83523519
dont you know? no one has ever used the term edgy as a positive in all the years and all the boards of 4chan according to >>83520765

well
except for >>83519977
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cynicism is really boring. It's old hat by now.

Why can't you have parody or deconstruction without it being bland nihilistic cynical garbage. Why can't you have anything that suggets some kind of solution or optimism.
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Saddest things that ever happened for $500, Alex.
>>83525138
One Punch Man does an alright job.
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>>83520495
Odds of DC not fucking up Sandman (especially since they would push cape crossovers): 15 to 1

Arguably DCs best overall works are their DVD animation flicks. I wonder if HBO would do an animated series...
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>>83524382
Nah, I think he's just a cuck who hates anything that's popular just because.
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>>83524900
>>83523903
>Trying this hard to justify why being edgy is 'grown up'
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>>83525294
>DCs best overall works are their DVD animation flicks
Anon, your taste is irrevocably shit. And Sandman already crossed over a shit ton with the DCU.
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>>83525313
He really likes Superman, supposedly.
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>>83525371
Now that he's edgy and murders people.
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>>83518164
Only a middle class Reddit pleb would think Vinnie Jones would be a good pick amd not this man
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Any western comic with ridiculous powers and fights like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure?
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>>83525401
Isn't that just a video game?
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>>83521430
Tbh that looks pretty awesome
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>>83525401
No. Here's Ennis' Superman:
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>>83522441

It reminds me of what Mark Millar did with Kick-Ass.

It's meant to show how badly you'd get your shit fucked up if the average nerd actually tried to act out his fantasies of being a masked vigilante and how no one could actually do that in real life.

Then he has Kick-Ass survive a ridiculous amount of damage, basically gaining his own superpowers of metal plates in his bones and insensitivity to pain, and introduces Big Daddy and Hit-Girl who are the definition of unrealistically skilled vigilantes who kill the hundreds of baddies with their badass ninja gear.
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>>83525089
ABSOLUTELY BASED
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>>83525364
>your taste is irrevocably shit
Your opinion of my opinion is irrelevant, pleb
>Sandman already crossed over a shit ton with the DCU
I know, but I wouldn't want to see forced hero-of-the-week crossovers.
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go back to the designated gay board

>>>/co/
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>>83525557
>forced hero-of-the-week crossovers
Why would we tho?
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If superpowered people were real women are gonna get raped a lot by those people.
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>>83525630
literally what happens in The Boys
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>>83525630
Kek, that's actually a major plot element in the story.
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>>83525692
also "if kids had superpowers they'd piss in each other's mouths and get molested a lot"
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>>83525729
>superpowered molestation
>super golden showers
The first part is a story arc, the second soumds familiar.
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>>83520765
YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. I'm a random anon that appreciated the synopsis and here you are being the biggest annoying CUNT on the fucking PLANET. Kill yourself, really
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>>83525606
Movie push. Ex: Death visits Lex
Luthor when he has a near-death experience when pursuing items for his own GL-type ring. (The Black Ring storyline)
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>>83525801
When Hughie infiltrates the G-Wiz or whatever that kid X-men knock-off third grade team was called, there's a scene where one of them is peeing on the others. "Hey look, I'm whizzing on G-Wiz!". They were drunk, maybe? There was an important point about superheroes not really understanding limitations or something, but I honestly don't remember.
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>>83525866
I wouldn't call it contrived or anything, The Endless play a major part in the DCU. It was handled well, at least, same with the SMT story where Dream meets Wesley Dodds.
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>>83525340
But you are the one obsessed over personal image and looking "grownup".

I state that attempting to look and appear grownup is in itself immaturity and a mental poison.

Let's say that a person is edgy yet equally, if not more, as successful as you are. That means that a person, which you perceive as having a defect, is still preforming as you are or even outperforming you. The conclusion then is that edginess has no bearing on anything, except a target of scorn for you to feel better about yourself, which is also an immature and childish trait.
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>>83525899
I remember a frat type party at some point and they were all a little gay for each other in the G-Wiz.
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>>83525502
Way better than Zack Snyder's.
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>>83526105
Snyder wants to give his Superman a story arc, but it's not entirely clear what it is at this point.
I'd honestly argue it's one of the best ways Superman has ever been written. He's a flawed character that really wants to do dome good. However, given the circumstances and what's at stake, he's bound to trip and fall at some points.
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>>83525967
The only reason to like edgy shit is immaturity. Doesn't matter how big your pay cheque is, you're still an edgy little faggot if you go in for "hurrr i love this comic because its so dark and nihilistic and REAL like my soul. also i wear black" bullshit like Ennis peddles.
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>>83526390
That's not why people like The Boys tho. They like it because it's set in a legitimately interesting universe and stars interesting characters. Even Edgelord Billy Butcher is fairly well written.
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>>83526390
The Boys aren't anything like that. You can argue that Punisher is like that, but The Boys is more funny and self-aware (except when it's not, Ennis really likes ranting about stuff sometimes).
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>>83526215
MoS was about Clark growing up from being a guy from Kansas with strange powers and searching his purpose on Earth to a superhero who embraces his destiny and saves the world. The character arc in BvS is about Clark learning to deal with aftermath of that: the burden of being a public superhero and thus the object of political interest and controversy. He learns that despite his powers, he can't always do the right thing and save everyone. People will still die because he is fallible. A true hero is one who may fall down but just gets back up again.

When Superman saves the child from the burning apartments, he is surrounded by dead people embracing him, even worshipping him. But Superman doesn't happily take it all with a smile. In fact, he reluctantly turns his head away in what appears to be him feeling some sort of dread or pain.

I think this is Superman realizing that he is surrounded "by the dead". That he is so different from them, they will know death, he will not. Maybe it's even part shame, knowing that our fates are set in stone while his isn't. A God among men. But he also desires to be one of us.

In his fight against Batman, Batman says "you don't know what it means to be brave. Men are brave". And this is true to some extent. An immortal God figure cannot be brave as there is no risk involved. "It's time you learn what it means to be a man" means coming face to face with death, which is what separates Superman from man. If he can't do that, then he cannot be brave and he cannot be man.

This dilemma of death is eventually adressed in the climax of the film, as he comes to terms with his own mortality, and pays the ultimate price of a human being. Superman becomes man. Superman overcomes the final trial. And that is accepting his own death. And this is when Batman finally recognizes Superman as man.

Bravo Snyder
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>>83526390
>The only reason to like edgy shit is immaturity.
I disagree. Maturity is also the ability and wisdom to recognize that everything has a positive and negative, and that looking at things and phenomena for their negatives only is immature and narrow-minded.
For us to discern why you show such unwarranted and perturbed discontent towards edginess, it also helps looking at some positive that edginess possesses.

- Fearlessness - Whether having no fear of other people's opinions, or no fear of being yourself, to be edgy requires lack of fear towards the surroundings and the steadfastness to be yourself. The lack of fear towards being ostracized by a few narrow-minded people.
- Freedom - To act in life in a free manner without constraints, whether of principles or ideology or otherwise, the key point is not being shackled by the surroundings or by fear.

These are the two core positive i can name.
To define a person who is opposite of this, or rather who feels intimidated by this, i can only use the world: Cuck.
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>>83526616
Savage
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>>83526390
so everyone else already btfo you but i think youre a faggot too so im just going to post some cs lewis

“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
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Man, imagine wasting your fucking time arguing about maturity over The Boys.
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>>83526446
>>83526461
>>83526608
>>83526616
ITT: Triggered edgelords.
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>>83526832
I'm only an edgeguardian yet, but thanks for the compliment!
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>>83526810
This thread has some of the most annoying faggots I've ever seen on 4chan
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>>83526832
I don't see how this contributes to a civilized discussion.
You only appear disgruntled and discontent.
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>>83526872
/tv/ is a containment board now.
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>>83526810
Imagine wasting your time on pointing out people who are wasting their time as having their time wasted while posting on 4chan.
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>>83526616
>Mom, give me my comic back, this issue with the story of a man who can fly skullfucking a baby has deep themes of fearlessness and freedom!!! Stop being so immature!!!

Did you even read this shit back to yourself before hitting post?
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>>83527001
Isn't sarcasm edgy?
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>>83527001
I read that as
>Mom, give me my comic back. Just because you have forgotten how to have fun doesn't mean my childhood has to suffer for it as well.

Listen anon, i know you are a disgruntled person, but that doesn't mean you need to project your problems onto other people.
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>>83526832
(you)
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>>83527034
>>83527114
>Nothing but ad hominem

Guess that settles it, enjoy fapping to your gore comics, just remember to hide them before your mom cleans your room.
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>>83526832
>everyone else contributes intelligent discussion
>anon chooses to shitpost instead
All these flavors.
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>>83515901

>women having sex shown the same as killing babies

AMERIFATS
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>>83527315
>intelligent discussion
>/co/ cross-board thread

pick one
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>>83526608
That's the best interpretation I've heard thus far desu.
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>>83527202
Anon. The start of this discussion was you insulting edginess and being closed-minded, the definition of Ad Hominem. I on the other hand extracted as much as i could from the discussion and through your continued input, we came to the conclusion that people who act superior or insulting towards others under arbitrary reasons are obviously unloading the dirt they have inside them. Their own deficiencies in other words.

In the end, we came to the conclusion that the kind of person who dislikes edginess is the kind of person who is submissive, narcissistic, and fears the opinions of the surroundings. All traits of a cuckold.
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>>83520045
Supergods was shit. I mean pseudo Manhattan was just there because Ellis need it a way to say fuck you. No more hero was just shock value.
Black Summer was cool.

But ennis is better than Ellis.
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>>83520253
They should adapt starlight if you ask me.
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>>83519759
No-one asked for you to be a faggot either
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>>83515901
I'm still waiting for the quips and rainbows adoption of Miracleman.
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>>83528013
Another rape of Moore's material? Did you not have enough?
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>>83528013
I don't think they will do it, Alan Moore was okay with publishing miracleman again only if he wasn't named.

Besides we already got a Miracleman adaptation, MoS. Snyder is a fan of Moore and probably adapted a part of it into his movie.
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>>83528056
I was being sarcastic.

>>83528123
Yes, various elements that directly clashed with Superman as a character and with none of the finesse or gravitas contained in Alan Moore's work.
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>>83527334

Good point.
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>>83526872
>the most annoying faggots I've ever seen on 4chan
Thats this whole website.
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>be giant company
>basically have a patent on superheros
>"Alright, we have put billions of dollars into this and we want to use these heros as weapons for the army, what should we do?"
>"How about we spend a fuckton of money on legal fees and hiding our fuckups instead of investing like one hour per week to train these people how they should handle their powers and save people?"
>"That's a great idea Jones. It's not like the government has any interest in keeping them in control so there is no way they may send specialised forces after heros who were actually trained."
I mean shit, I can see some superheros being complete dickweeds, but after that company went through so much trouble creating a situation where they wanted their heros to shine in national defense they completely forgot to actually train them?
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>>83528805
I appreciate you for recognizing yourself as the faggot you are. Let us toast to that.
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>>83525089
>black noir
>black black
What was his name supposed to mean?

>>83525279
>forcing your understudy to kill you so that he may be better prepared to take your job
this series is edgy as fuck, but it has heart. screw butcher for what he did though
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>>83529180
>What was his name supposed to mean?

BLACKED.com
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>>83526616
>skull fucking babies = MUHH FREEDOMS = MUH 1ST AMENDMENT

You're one of those dumb libertarians aren't you?
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>>83525670
>dude, weed
yeah, I'm not so sure on that, from what little I hear about preacher
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>>83527348
because /tv/ has so many high quality discussions
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>>83526616
>The only reason I don't kill, eat, and skull fuck children is because I'm shackled by fear
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>>83529274
>I DONT LIKE IT THEREFORE IT MUST BE BANNED

You're one of those retarded commies, aren't you?
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>>83528870
Haha we could like totally avoid political corruption and scandals too if we just spent 1 hour training them not to take bribes and abuse their power, right?
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>>83529364
>skull fucking babies shouldn't be banned
>it's like a matter of opinion man
>MUHH FREEDUMBS!
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>>83529274
Freedom is the most fought for right in the history of Humanity.
I don't need any labels or organizations to recognize why all the great historical figures far more intelligent than you or I fought for it.

In any case, please stay on topic, at least have that much restraint since you are roleplaying as a mature person.
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>>83529334
>reading bad things makes me do bad things
Anon. Your urges and mental problems aren't shared by normal people.
Normal people react to laughing it off.
Abnormal people like yourself equate reading things to acting upon them.
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>>83529452
>mature person
>libertarian edge-lord

Pic one
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>>83529369
I am talking about a company here. The company handsomely pays these heros. Plus, these heros are an asset to them. Hell, they even "revived" a hero which is supposed to cost a fortune and yet they can't find the time and resources to properly train them? If you read the comic you'd know they even made this mistake once before by sending heros to the front lines of WW2 only to get slaughtered since they weren't trained properly.
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>>83527856
I think Ennis is a more entry level writer, gets kinda preachy at points more than ellis, I like both and have them in my library
gotta get around to reading supergods one day, i agree with the other two

>>83528013
>disney ever allowing this type of adaptation for their studio

>>83528870
one of the biggest plot points is the complete and total fuck up of trying to stop 9/11
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>>83528123
>Alan Moore was okay with publishing miracleman again only if he wasn't named

It's more that the guy who created Miracleman, Mick Anglo, was (much like Moore himself) cheated out of the rights of the character. When he got the job to write it he was assured they'd had the rights, but turns out they didn't. It's why the series spent so many years in limbo, different parties fighting for it, until Marvel came in and solved it somehow.

So Moore allowed his portion to be reprinted, but he demanded not to be credited (so as to not steal anymore from Anglo's thunder; plus he's had some bad blood with Marvel anyway) and that any of the money that should go to him be given to Anglo's family instead.
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>>83529452
>why all the great historical figures far more intelligent than you or I fought for it.
they didn't
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>>83529526
>mental problems

You mean like wanting to read a comic where superman fucks and eats infants? Those kind of mental problems?
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>>83529334
>if you watch violent movies or play violent video games, you will become a school shooter and serial killer

I think that's enough Kool-Aid for today Jimmy.
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>>83529526
Cool straw-man. I never said or implied "violent movies or games" make you violent. Work on your reading comprehension dumbasses.
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>>83529612
Entertainment isn't a mental problem anon.
Now let's talk about your fear of reading controversial material which challenges your mental integrity, or lack thereof in your case.
Why do you fear fiction so much anon?
Is it some kind of insecurity?
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>>83529720
You call others edgy, yet all you are capable of is being full of yourself and insulting other people without providing anything productive to any conversation.
It's funny irony, but it becomes stale quickly.
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>>83529435
Not an argument.
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>>83529435
>being anti-censorship is edgy
I love it when alt-right and SJW's have a trait in common.
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>>83529612
Are you the sort of person that wanted to ban Gravity's Rainbow too because the idea of unpleasant things makes you unhappy?
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>>83520495
Never, or someone will have to die when they fuck it up, like they've consistently fucked up Hellblazer.
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>>83529960
Closed-minded people are like that.
Inflated ego with a sense of unwarranted superiority-complex.
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>>83515901
Which chapter has boobes?
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>>83529780
Yes, I called others edgy because that are acting LIKE RETARDED FUCKING EDGE-LORDS.

If you think that the reason that people don't eat babies is because they are afraid of what other will think (>>83526616)....YOU ARE A RETARDED EDGELORD with absolutely no understanding of human society or human moral systems....or you're a autistic sociopath.
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>>83529864
>>83529960
>>83530012
>implying I ever said I wanted to censor anything

Y'all really do suck at basic reading comprehension.
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>>83529570
I have always wondered. Why is Alan Moore and Marvel in conflict?
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>>83530283
>reading things I don't like and makes me uncomfortable means you have mental issues
You're just being retarded is what everyone is saying I think.
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>>83530245
>Yes, I called others edgy because that are acting LIKE RETARDED FUCKING EDGE-LORDS.
With the way you are acting and writing, you don't qualify as a judge of such things.

>If you think that the reason that people don't eat babies is because they are afraid of what other will think
You said before that you didn't imply violence in fiction equates to violence in real life,
yet here you are pushing the discussion into exactly that direction.
Not only are you more edgy than the people you accuse of the same, you can't even manage to have any consistency.
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>>83530337
It's not that he is retarded, he is just too emotional and full of himself.
That's why he gets off on insulting other people, because he is insecure and is compensating.
He's pretty shallow as a person.
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>>83526461
>Ennis loves to rant

Preacher is a good example of that. Guy could have just said 'religion is bad, man' and I'm sure we would have gotten it with out hundreds of pages of people all with the same face.
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>>83527121
He didn't even do anything except bait you retards. Its a fucking comic book, who gives a shit if some random clown on an Albanian aluminum mining forum thinks its [insert buzzword].
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>>83530337
>implying I said I "The Boys" is something I don't like or makes me uncomfortable

Are you are talking to yourself? How about read what I post and comment on that?

>>83530338
>yet here you are pushing the discussion into exactly that direction

No, I'm not. Read what I wrote dumbass. My critique is on this (>>83526616) autistic/ sociopath statement. There is no doubt a lot to be said on the concept of fear and freedom, but if you think people don't eat babies or do whatever other shit anyone one wants to classify as "bad" simply because they are afraid of social norms or lacking freedoms or whatever....YOU ARE FUCKED IN THE HEAD. You sound like a alien who has never interacted with people before.

You will always have fear and always have constraints. Be that societal (laws, norms), physical (physical laws, biological laws, chemical laws), or self-imposed (your own ideas). Sure a guy eating a baby is "edgy", but that wasn't my point. I'm calling you EDGY because you are trying to equate eating babies (or whatever the fuck) as some weird issue abstract notions of FREEDUM and FEAR. It's fucking dumb.

First off fearlessness and freedom aren't inherently some positive things. There are plenty of cases where fear is good and freedom is bad. SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING?

Plus the weird framing of that little diatribe makes its seem like the only thing keeping you from being a serial killer is a law that says you can't kill. Which would make either autistic or a sociopath.

Seriously, you think like a small fucking child.

inb4 BUTT MUHHFREEDUM ARE ALWASY DA BEST AND FEAR IS ALWAYS BAD AND I LIBERTARIAN! GARY JOHNSON

Yeah...you're a fucking child and you think like a child. That's the reason you like EDGY SHIT and the reason people call you EDGY! You're immature.
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>>83531150
>No, I'm not.
Yes you are. You genuinely deluded yourself into thinking that this discussion is about defending real life depictions of violence rather than limited strictly to fiction; and you keep sticking to it despite being called out on it because that's the only way you can feel important and superior.

Just look at your wall of text, complete loss of emotion, reason, fueled by an aggressive superiority complex and an urge to insult other people.

I've seen teenagers less triggered and prone towards belittling and insulting other people than you, yet you think you are a judge on edginess.

Truly infantile.
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>>83531269
>missed the point
>can't rebut shit

If what I wrote didn't apply to you, then it didn't apply. I'm talking about the relationship between edginess, violence, freedom and fear....just like what I orginally responded to. If you can't follow the conversation it isn't my fucking problem

>inb4 HE WASN'T TALKING ABOUT EDGINESS AND FEAR AND FREEDUMSZ AND VIOLENCE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT EDGINESS FEAR AND VIOLENCE AND FREEDUMSZ
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>>83531269
>I'm not talking about real life abstract notions
>I'm talking about fictional abstract notions
>People in "comics" don't eat babies is because fictional fear
>The real world is different though

I CAN'T EVEN
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>>83530542
Remember that part where the MC is in his car and starts talking to his dog about political correctness? Like I sort of agree with it but good god that was just so shameless and more importantly out of place, you couldn't have made it more obvious that it's author tract in effect.
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>>83515901
The twist is pretty lame and ruined the chance for a satisfying final battle.
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>>83531419
First, learn to converse in a rational manner.
I really truly believe that even most teenagers have a more "adult" way of writing and speaking than you are portraying here, since we are talking about maturity here.
Second, edginess pretty much is characterized by freedom to think controversially and accept concepts and phenomena that make someone like you butthurt enough to make a wall of text of virtue signaling and moralizing. If it challenges the fragile glass walls of people like you, and you respond in the way you respond to it with a complete loss of emotion and control, then edginess has served its purpose well. It has showcased that there are people out there like you who pose with fake maturity and are merely frauds on a narcissism and egoism trip.
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>>83527334
It's more so the fact that the woman in question is the Wonder Woman equivalent of that comic series, a supposed example of morality and virtue for the people, is actually a promiscous walking fuckhole.
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>>83531150
oh lord...
is this pasta
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>>83522852
Well obviously the comic is a satire of superheroes and is mostly black humour.
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>>83531808
It's not. The guy has lost his jimmies. People this mad and condescending usually have major defects in both personality and mindset.
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>>83523310
That's like only watching Twixt and calling Francis Ford Coppola a hack.
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>>83531760
>>83531808
>>83531847
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>>83531916
Guys, i think we broke his mind. He's repeating himself like a broken record now.
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>>83531780
She's also actually one of the few morally upstanding (relatively) supes who is disgusted with their violence.
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>>83532133
To be fair they weren't THAT bad until 9/11 where they just fucking lost their minds and threw morality away. And Homelander just slowly went insane afterwards when Noir started making him THINK he was going insane.
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>>83528878
kek
>>83515901
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