itt: "villains" who did NOTHING wrong

>mom wont give me a ride to the mall!

>>83185807
DFENS was a wife abuser and all-around creep in general. There was nothing redeeming about him and his fragile, toxic masculinity

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>>83185807

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>>83185807
>this will trigger the /pol/

>>83185807
I rewatched this kino a few days ago.

Is it set in LA? Looked like a hot dirty place to live unless you near the seaside

>>83186282
Yes.
And yes LA is a hellhole.

>>83185807
Everything was fine until his lack of trigger discipline made him look like a retard and escalated the situation he created.

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>>83186002
>fragile, toxic masculinity
kys

>>83186053
DELETE THIS

>>83186053

but /pol/ is D-FENS

You think /pol/ is the surplus nazi because you only know /pol/ from what you've been told

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>>83185807
This film is really about the character study piece, though.

>>83186669
>you only know /pol/ from what you've been told

And you only know /pol/ from coming here with the wave of Trump-supporting Redditors, newfag. Used to be that board wasn't obsessed with sucking Jew cock.

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>>83186666

very nice

>>83186665
Not an argument.

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>>83186312

>>83186053
>wearing a leather vest in the LA heat

he deserves it t.b.h

>>83186663
>started an avoidable war that killed millions and million of the white people that he cared so much about
I'd say he did something wrong

>>83185807
Some men just want breakfast.

>>83185961
>trusted Ocelot, whose entire life was based on manipulating his "superiors"
>tried to double-cross Dead Cell (his semi-loyal henchmen) and the La-li-lu-le-lo (who installed him as president in the first place)
>gloated about killing Raiden's parents to his face while Raiden was A) extremely frustrated and B) armed
Say what you will about his ideals, but Solidus made a lot of mistakes.

>>83187829
style over comfort my man

>>83186002
He didn't abuse his wife. She even said so. She was just being fragile.

At worst he was an angry guy. He's been lied to his whole life about everything from hamburgers to job security. It takes a toll. So when he bought his kid the hobby horse for her birthday to make her happy(while he clearly wasn't) and she doesn't want to it has an effect. It was like a tiny failure because he couldn't make her happy like all the happy kids in All the happy commercials. And then his wife,instead of assisting with the girl to get her into it long enough for a little video decides to freak out and be a frump the rest of the day,then divorce him. The judge decides to make an example of him so she bars him from seeing his kid. Its all downhill after that. That scene is painful to watch. Also I hope you're beaten to death with a rock.

PS

>>83186053
He killed an obnoxious nazi for not respecting his space or first amendment. I can dig it. I tolerate Nazis kind of like I tolerate SJWs. Just don't add to the stress of my day and you will be fine.

>>83187099
Neither is quasi-intellectual jargon like "toxic masculinity"

>>83189125
This. Also, pay attention to the fog's behavior around him. The dog (the puppy from the home movies) is happy to see him return home and is sad when he dies. Which proves DFENS did nothing wrong and his wife was a bitch.

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>"villains" who did NOTHING wrong

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How far can you get without raging?

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/1993s-falling-down-is-an-eerie-reflection-of-modern-americas-persecution-complex/

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D-FENS might've been justified in the beginning, but as the movie progresses he just becomes a bitter edgelord and he was totally going to murder-suicide his wife.

Prendergast was /ourguy/ anyway.

>>83186002
>The police straight up ask if he was abusive and the wife says no
You utter twat.

>>83189320
Exactly.

>>83185807

The dude out of Ex Machina

>>83186312
Griffith apologists should be hanged

>>83189505
He thought he was a good guy. Being stripped of that during his encounter with Prendeghast drove him to commit suicide by cop. I doubt he would have killed his wife and kid.

>>83186002
>fragile, toxic masculinity
Go back to Metafilter, megafaggot.

>>83189505
Prendergast was a literal cuck whose baby was murdered by his hysterical attention-seeking wife.

>>83189125
The wife is the real villain in Falling down.

>>83189505
Pringlegrabs was definitely tougher than D-Fens. I mean he didn't kill his wife who he suspects killed their daughter.

>>83189125
>>83189226
>>83189671
>>>/r9k/

>>83189384
>https://editorial.rottentomat
That's as far as I could manage.

>>83186002
To be honest if you don't identify with DFENS on a deep deep level then you're probably a fag and definitely an idiot

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>>83188661
This was a good post.

>>83189671
I think commercialism,social expectations and apathy are the villians.

>>83189714
---->My anus

Not an argument.

>>83187928
>war
>avoidable

how can someone be this naive

>This faggot trying entry level tumblr b8

>>83189814
you'd like that faggot

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>>83186002

This.

Anybody that just doesn't see this right off the bat when he sees the videos of himself might be under too many levels of irony or is just a r9k memer that ''hates roasties''.

His wife was scared of him. He behaved in a very aggressive and weird way. Everything about their relationship was toxic.

Defens wasn't exactly a bad guy, but he clearly needed psychological help and it ended up killing him.

>>83189671
both the wives are antagonists, the police officer and dfens are meant to be parallels of each other. dfens has a kid but can't be with her, the officer's wife had a miscarriage.

>>83189866
I love film discussion.

>>83189911

me too senpai, enjoy your stay.

We have BLACKED and BIG BLACK COCK (BBC) threads every night. So you are welcome to check those out too.

>>83189820
It's sad because Germany invaded Danzig because the Poles were murdering Germans.

But nope, Hitler invaded Poland because he wanted to trigger war with the rest of Europe because reasons.

>>83189881
>the officer's wife had a miscarriage
>believing that narrative of events

It's pretty obvious the wife killed the kid so she would receive more attention from her husband.

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>>83187928
The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose.

>>83189865
That depends on how far you can wiggle yourself in there. Epilepsy or Parkinsons is a plus.

>>83189866
>His wife was scared of him. He behaved in a very aggressive and weird way. Everything about their relationship was toxic.

How can one person be so full of shit?

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>>83189960

>Poles were murdering Germans.

Germans that were, in turn, trying to murder them so they could set a coup d'etat in motion that would end up with HItler annexing it.

If you cant get off the ''b-but hitler and the Nazis were little angels!'' mindset because of ''muh white'' memery then you are doing this the wrong way.

>>83189993
ah that's true, I'd forgotten. they have child stealing wives in common.

>>83189866
His wife was utterly useless and perpetually afraid. Even the cops were tired of making trips out there because she probably has them on speed dial.

>>83189125
>HURR THE SYSTEM MADE HIM DO IT
>HE WAS A VICTIM OF SOCIETY
>HE WAS A GOOD BOY HE JUST NEEDED MO MONEY FOR THOSE DEFENSE INDUSTRY CONTRACT JOBS
>HE WAS A TROUBLED YOUNG MAN WITH A BRIGHT FUTURE

Naw.

>>83190025

Why did you purposefully ignore the scenes that were supposed to show us that Defens wasnt exactly a sweet butterfly when he was around his wife?

He even admits it.

>>83189881
The cops kid died under suspicious circumstances after birth. Even Prendegast suspects her SIDS was "assisted"

>>83190094
He had problems around his wife because she wasn't playing the proper role and doing her part to create an ideal relationship. She could have just played along with him and had a happy marriage but no she just had to be an entitled bitch that was never happy with him no matter how hard he tried to makes things work.

>>83189656
I don't think he'd kill the kid but he'd totally shoot his wife.

>>83190088

>and perpetually afraid

Gee I wonder why, perhaps because Defens isn't exactly a very rational man and has had kind of a dark past with her.

But this cannot be in your own very special interpretation of the story right? (despite the fact that the movie acknowledges this)

>>83190091
No. He made himself do it...reacting to a long life full of bullshit. There Is A Difference. It's why it's tragic.

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>>83190167

>N-no Its her fault
>but dude the movie shows us that it clearly wasn't her fault the dude was mentally ill
>NO it has to be HER fault

Now you are just pulling things out of your ass.

I guess she is guilty of everything and Defens was the perfect man.

Fuck women amiright?! XDXD

>>83185961
I haven't played the second game in a long time. How would you compare this guy to Trump? Thoughts?

>>83186312
Fuck off already.
>>83189635
I know they exist but I still can get legitimately surprised when I see one.

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>>83189866

>>83189978
Ann wanted his cock.

>>83190171
No it couldnt. Because the film shows a woman who exasperates the police and admits to conspiring with a judge to push a struggling square to lunacy. Didja watch the movie Anon?

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Let's get this shit started.

>>83190171
His dark past was sometimes becoming angry,never harming the wife or kid. She tells this to the officer.

>>83190265
No,he's guilty for his actions. She is guilty of being an unsupportive ballbuster.

You guys notice that the cucked faggòt spamming his autism is using r*ddit spacing? Makes me do a think.

>>83190469

>She is guilty of being an unsupportive

But you dont know this.

>>83190616
It's right there in the home movies and the dialogue she has with the police. You didn't actually watch the movie, did you?

>>83190045
>99% german city tried to return to germany

Golly

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>>83185807

>>83190432
>>83190372
Guys, why even reply to bait?

Ra's Al Ghul

Society is degenerate and deserves to be destroyed

>>83189505
This guy was wrong the whole time. Did you not finish the movie? The hero wasn't even armed.

>>83190265
What is with your almost childlike tendency to categorize people into two categories of good or bad instead of acknowledging the ugly complexity of humanity?

Robert,escort this man to the popcorn butter derricks.

>>83190905

cringe

>>83190400
That won't take here anymore. The children here haven't seen it.

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>NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE

>>83190721

>99%

Nope.

>tried to return to germany

Doesn't really work like that.

Now you are just trying to excuse one bad action with another.

The problem here is that you will lobby for the nazis all the way instead of just acknowledging they were not the good guys you desperately want them to be.

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>>83185807
>Used as slaves for the Humans
>Break free
>Build their own independent country away in the desert, far from all Humans
>Humans still declare war
>Humans ruin the skies to stop solar-powered machines from working
>Machines still win
>Allow Humans to live inside a perfect simulation
>Retarded Humans can't buy perfection and keep crashing the simulation
>Allow Humans to live in a flawed realistic simulation of their peak years in the 21st century
The Machines did nothing wrong.

>>83191002
The vast majority of the population were germans and as recently as the 20s it was recorded as 95% german.

I'm not justifying any violent actions and I'm not the other poster you were talking to, but looking at it neutrally germany had a legitimate right to regain the danzig and prussian corridor. Stubbornness by Poland was made worse by the false hope given to them by France and the UK, who couldn't hope to help them practically in a war. It could and should've been solved diplomatically by Poland's side but they didn't, so they were in the wrong.

>>83190971
>don't forget me ;_;

>>83185807
He lived more in those few hours then he did in his entire lifetime.

>>83186389
um try again sweaty

>>83189346

Who is this guy?

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>>83191816
This guy definitely, he was gonna give the guy his legs back if he had actually done his job.

>>83191968
Stop killing blue people.

>>83190944
braaap

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>>83185807
>It's another /pol/ tries to identify themselves with what everyone else clearly see's as a mentally troubled and "in the wrong" character, while at the same time revealing that they're all clearly edgy underager's and mentally troubled neets with persecution complexes episode

The plebbit invasion is real.

>>83192054
Stop being lesser beings.

>>83192054
>blue "people"

>>83189866
>and weird way
>weird
you know how I know you're a woman?

>>83191777
That's ol' Danny "Gives You a Scare as You Feel Your Hymen Tear" Schneider the Rough Rider.

>>83189635
>>83190315
1. Griffith made it clear that they all "belonged to him", being in his army they gave their lives to him.
2. Griffith didn't rape Casca, Femto did.
3. She liked it, even tonguing him back when he kisses her. In fact it could be said that the reason she lost her mind was not from trauma but because he mindbroke her with the orgasm he gave her, the pleausure of being cummed inside.

>>83191816
Thank you for not posting any cringe worthy pure reddit version with some completely made up epic caption explaining his point of view in justification of his actions (completely non-canon, as the image creator imagines it).

>>83191777
Dan "I've had tighter" Schneider

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>>83185807

>>83189182
lmao

>>83191099
Never got why the machines never went to space. Leave the humans, limitless solar power.

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>>83191777
He's Dan "The man with a plan to lick her clam, tie her up and slap her with your ham, start with 2 fingers then your hand, no reporting and no bans, fondle her clit then her cans, rip off her clothes and throw her in the van, not one-not two-but a 6 man gangbang, into her mouth right inside her, make that pussy wider and wider, soft smooth skin better is the whiter, pound her so hard they call me the Hymen Collider, give me a ciggie this'll be an all-nighter, dont go soft got to be a hard rider, hold her tighter shes a fighter, we wont kill you if you stay quieter" Schneider

>>83186669
You're a fucking idiot. Who the fuck are trying to fool into believing /pol/ isn't filled with anti-semite nazi sympathizers?

>>83197588
Tell us more about the /pol/estinians, as you call them.

>>83188661
>implying we all wouldn't fall for the Ocelot meme
>moved beyond his shitty friends
>refused to bow to ZOG
>Based

>>83185961
Solidus is not the villain though. He's the hero, and Raiden is the pawn of the antagonist.

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Not sure if he'd qualify as a villain. But he got hung none the less and didn't deserve it!

>>83190045
cute doggo

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YOU CALL ME GOY

>>83186005
Sheev really did nothing wrong

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>>83197871
I will unfurl one thousand years of Jew justice on Earth and DREIDL IT TO IT'S CORE!

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>>83186663
>Hitler
>villain

>>83186312
No, Griffith needs to die a slow death in a fire.

>>83189238
Literally this.

>>83188661
he gloated about Raiden parents because the AI forced them to have a battle to the death, why not provoke your protege and give a grand finale

>>83189669
>whose baby was murdered by his hysterical attention-seeking wife.

Was this really implied ?
I tought the wife was made paranoid because of that

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Why weren't we supposed to be rooting FOR this guy the entire movie again?

>>83186002
This

>>83186666
>quads
What a fucking waste.

>>83186002
Sorry but you used the phrase toxic masculinity so I cannot endorse this post.

>>83189669

Pendergast mans up by the end of the movie. That's what the movie is about. It juxtaposes the way the two men handle their shitty situations. One falls down while the other rises up.

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>>83199911
speak for yourself, waster

>>83189881

It's not just their wives that are antagonists, it's their whole lives. Both DFENS and Pendergast are at odds with their surroundings.

>>83190163

You know the more I think about it the more I agree with this. The dinosaurs were genetically engineered and bred in captivity, then irresponsibly released in a foreign environment. They probably would have ruined the ecosystem on the island. They should have been put in removed like any other population of non-native animals.

>>83199966
Shitlord.

>>83190372
>admits to conspiring with a judge to push a struggling square to lunacy.
I never noticed this. Where does she admit it?

>>83192238
>It's another reddit-babby projects episode

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>They were putting on a performance for Featherine the whole time

>>83199805
I want him to raw me.

>>83201879
When she is talking to the cop she states that the judge wanted to make an example of him.