This guy is a fucking lunatic.

>>82659655
His wife left him

>>82659655

madness

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>mfw my room is always clean

>>82659655
He's a fraud

Isn't this the "sort yourself out" guy /pol/ constantly shits on?

He doesn't seem that sorted

>>82659655
Psychoanalysis and Freud were the meme wars and Kek mythology of the early 1900s.

>>82659702
t. triggered xir

>>82659655
he's just jumping on the bandwagon like all the other redditors
he also made quite a bit of money from some crowd funding thing

>>82659655
>How did he go from lecturing about psychoanalysis and Freud to meme wars and Kek mythology?- 7 posts and 1 image reply shown.

Because he's a lunatic, you already answered it yourself.

>>82659736
all interesting and successful people are lunatics

>>82659743
lmaoing at the state of the life of whoever had the time to create this

>>82659743
you need jesus

>>82659669
nah

>>82659769
give me jesus

How is this /tv/ - Television & Film but news like fox, cnn, etc isn't, /v/?

>>82659783
burden yourself responsibility and sort yourself out

>>82659655
Getting more than 40 thousand dollars per month to pander to le kekistanis.

>>82659655
As an ethnic Kekistani i'm offended by this post. Dr. Peterson is just spreading the word about how our country has been attacked by the Normie regime over and over again. When they attack and kill our meme farmers all of our shitposting children go hungry. This oppression must end! #FreeKekistan

>>82659704

/pol/ loves him

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>>82659767
What about this one?

>>82659805
how does jesus factor into any of that?

>>82659655
He makes a ton of money pandering to teens and manchildren with depression. They see him as some sort of father figure.

>>82659743
He's right about postmodernism though, people who believe in it should be raped and murdered.

>>82659795
Because its more suited to /pol/ given how cable news is about politics and Trump 99% of the time. Threads about cable news will always devolve into political discussions.

>>82659833
postmodernism is necessary, for a faggot who rants about "the truth" all the time he should understand the benefits of nihilism and postmodernism to civilization as a means of filtering and criticizing ideas the alternative is just censorship

>>82659826
the jesus story is the ultimate archetypal example of bearing responsibility and sorting oneself

>>82659890
in what way?

>>82659655
Name one way he's wrong, i'll debate you

Say what you will about this guy but he's standing up for his principles to a lot of people that can make his life miserable and he should be respected for that.

>>82659655
>>82659743
HOL UP

So you sayin'

If you're a lunatic but the people who want to suppress you sexually identify as transgender autistic communist space whales

People will listen to your crazy shit?

>>82659881

> the benefits of nihilism

hmm you're a nihilist. you shouldn't believe in benefits. that implies a belief in an objective "good."

>>82659932
He should be respected solely for the fact that he's standing up for free speech and against the legislation of ridiculous gender laws in Canada.

>>82659932

Why should he be respected for that? Should Saddam Hussein have been respected for that? Kim Jong Un?

>>82659990

>Jordan Peterson
>Saddam Hussein
>Kim Jong Un

one of these things is not like the other

>>82659912
hes a big fat stupid caca head

He's making OP's transgendered facebook group look dumb so now he mad.

>>82659655
He and his followers are the ultimate expression of nihilism and bad faith, which is ironic since that's what they always seem to be railing against.
They take archetypal characters and stories and use them like sock puppets for their own amusement. It's post modernism on steroids.

Lmao autistic atheist are incapable of understanding deep philosophies

>>82659975
Rekt.

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>>82659833
>postmodernism is a single ideology

I see you haven't read either

Why are right wingers illiterate? Is it because only cucks read?

>>82660011

No come on, they all stand up for their principles. Nevermind what those principles are, standing up for them is worthy of respect!

>>82660028

lol you're a fucking dunce

how in the hell is he the ultimate expression of nihilism?

>>82660028
I don't think opposing the social justice movement is nihilistic, he is nihilistic about colleges but he knows that in and out because he's been a professor for years

>>82660028
>They take archetypal characters and stories and use them like sock puppets for their own amusement

is this how cynics describe interpretation?

>>82659655

reddit overdose

This guy is a literal who that is only famous because /pol/ found his videos of a bunch of SJWs autistically screeching at him. His ideas aren't special or interesting in the slightest and he's not as intelligent as he believes himself to be.

>>82660106
You know that a lot of /pol/ doesn't like him, right?

>>82660120
/pol/ almost unanimously loves him (((shill)))

>>82660075
Because postmodernists believe that words can mean whatever you want them to.

>>82660035
Not an atheist you fag.

>>82659975
Metaphysics is a bunch of blabidy bla, vague wordgames that some people have mastered to con dumb people into their ideology, language is an insufficient means to convey meaning about actual reality

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debate when?

>>82660140

i asked you how he's the ultimate expression of nihilism and you come back at me with this weak ass non sequitur.

>>82660148
Some people feel things that you are not aware of.

>>82660167
Its funny that peterson is open to debate from anyone but people would rather blow airhorns in his face instead

>literally brought up for 15-20 seconds
and yeah, if you sum up events like that then anything can seem trivial. But the fact is the "meme wars" have had a noticeable effect on how people act online and had major effects on societal events such as elections. He's speaking out for/against these issues because he lept at the oppurtunity after going viral. he feels he can make a positive change

>>82660167

Chomsky is too old and senile at this point

it'd be interesting if we could get Noam from 15 years ago

>>82659815
This ain't a Sargon comment section, relax nigger

>>82660167

>2 senile old men talk at each other

Whoever wins, we snooze

>>82659881
>>82659975
I don't want to overstate this, but this is the most unequivocally rekt I've ever seen someone be.

>>82659655

it was an off-hand reference meant to be a joke you autist

>>82660167
He's out of his league here. It goes like this:
Zizek/Chomsky >> Peterson/Harris >>>>> Molyneux

>>82660183
What else were you expecting? Now you know better.

>>82660106
>literal who
>only famous

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>>82659815
Back to redbit r/The_Donald scum. Go upboat some ebic Trump frog memes XD PRAISE KEK amirite guys lol kekistam such memes so funneh!

>>82660268
>zizek

that guy is a fucking bore and chore to listen to

>>82660268
>Peterson/Harris

Harris is actually cogent

I'd rather see a debate between Peterson and Steven Pinker

>>82659829
Is there an intellectual who doesn't make money? What is the argument here?

Provide an example of someone who has your admiration and does not have financial benefits for it

>>82660043
Postmodernism has a few core tenets which can be criticized, nice shitposting though

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> tfw you spend your life criticising modern consumer culture as degenerate meaningless , materialistic and catering to the lowest common denominator

> Years later you get blamed for modern culture being degenerate, meaningless and materialistic and catering to the lowest common denominator by a bunch of manchildren who are further to the left than he could possibly imagine anyone being

>>82660301
Harris is a sophist, dishonest retard. Just watch those two debate on his podcast and you'll see he wouldn't let the debate go on unless Peterson agreed with him.

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>>82660268
not an argument

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>>82659815

>>82660106

>he ain't smart
>4Chan poster

>>82660268
Chomsky saying some pretty stupid shit as of late

>>82659655
dunno, i know one guy who said Peterson "saved his life" though

he's a total emotional wreck

>>82659825
holy shit that's amazign

>>82660351
>Just watch those two debate on his podcast and you'll see he wouldn't let the debate go on unless Peterson agreed with him.

It wasn't a debate you imbecile

>>82660421
Is that a bad thing?

>>82660289
Black guy who bought a hat?

F
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B A S E D

>>82660425

well, it wasn't supposed to be but that's definitely how it turned out.

the first podcast at least

>>82660351
>Harris is a sophist

That's the last thing I would say about Sam Harris. If anyone is a sophist it's Peterson.

>>82660425
Yes, I know because Harris was being an autist about it and never let it turn into one.

>>82660415
He has but he's still incredibly intelligent.

>>82660455
i don't know, is it?

>>82660289
go back to /r/milliondollarextreme

>>82660476

>It wasn't supposed to be but it ended up that way

>>82660480

>It was supposed to be but never ended up that way

Idiots

>>82660043
Derrida wasn't a Post-Modernist.

Y'all niggas need to brush up on your continental philosophy

>>82659655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RALiz53OYy0

inmendham destroyed him

>>82660496
No he's probably sorting his life out

>>82660526

oh wow, you're intellect is clearly superior.

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>>82660547

Shut up.

>>82659881
Postmodernism has nothing to do with civilization or critical thinking, and it's not surprising that someone who believes in it would be so historically and philosophically illiterate.

Censorship always exists, the only question is who has the power to enforce it and for whose benefit they do so.

>>82660533
Is that Rocky Dennis?

>>82660533

Hey what's that thing?

>>82660588
> the only question is who has the power
the fucking irony

>>82660043
Of course it is; we know it is. And it has been steadily losing ground this century, thank God.

Peterson is a depressive which translates into his ideology too much. He approaches life from the standpoint that it's inevitably tragic. Still better than the polar opposite though.

>>82660533

>yea why does it matter where somebody comes from. it's so irrelevant

jesus not even 3 minutes in and this guy has already lost all credibility. how about this numbnuts, invite someone from the shitheap of Somalia to live with you and then talk to me about how much it geographical location doesn't matter.

>>82660631
Censorship is meet, right and our bounden duty. There is no irony in this. If you want your heads smashed open, they will be. There are no lies here, nor were there ever any lies here.

>>82660028
That's just called lying and strawmanning pseudointellectual

>>82660675
There was never an idea in history that was successfully censored

He's a pessimist. Not even a realist, a pessimist fucking fag. So are his fans.

>>82660708

pragmatist*

stupid nigger

>>82660415
Chomsky's statements on republicans are pretty ridiculous. He said they've become a "radical insurgency" a couple years ago. That makes perfect sense.

>>82659655
The CIA literally delves in memetic warfare themselves. You're behind.

>>82659743
go clean your room

>>82660756

(meanwhile in Berkeley, California)

>>82660748
Not even a pragmatist. A total pessimist fag.

>>82660670

>how about this numbnuts, invite someone from the shitheap of Somalia to live with you and then talk to me about how much it geographical location doesn't matter.

i don't think he in no way implied that it doesn't matter where people come from. he implied location doesn't matter because you have internet. you can experience world on the internet. you don't need to travel. that's what he was implying

>>82660804

well you've definitely convinced me

So why do tranny's trigger /pol/ so fucking much? 4chan is probably overexposed to all the tranny shit more so than like 90% of the population

>>82660827
Clean your room fag.

>>82659655
"redpil"

don't let (((/pol/))) fool you, it's a slippery slope

>>82660852
Because it combines so many mental problems our society is facing right now. Not that long ago a man getting a surgery to become a woman so they can become a lesbian was a farcical punch line.

>>82660820

that's not at all what he's saying.

he's saying that geographical location has absolutely no influence on the population within said location. that's tacitly false on a number of different levels.

the guy is obviously out of his mind. probably from being coaxed into having sexual relations with his uncle at a very young age. some people don't recover from that shit.

>>82660341
At least Horkheimer and Adorno aren't totally written off as a worthless Jew like Walter Benjamin, who basically let us know that in an age of infinite reproduction (think digital content), we can no longer place aesthetic value upon a work of art. All that's left is to commodify it within the Capitalist system.

>>82660853

my room is nearly always clean. i'm pretty sorted senpai

>>82660914
>we can no longer place aesthetic value upon a work of art

oh fuck, that's so wrong

>>82660853

>Is your cell tidy, Goy?

>>82660905
have you considered that you are projecting your own mental problems on the larger society which is doing just about as well as it ever was and that many years from now nothing will dramatically change and the world will keep spinning

>>82659655
He's subversive. I can't prove it, but he's not a man of God.

By their fruits you shall know them

>>82660505
You think I watch that garbage? Sorry, but that show is The_Donald-tier trash. Literally not a single funny sketch on the entire show, deserved what it got.

>>82660968
I'm just nutshelling Benjamin's ideas. I'm not wrong, though you might say he is.

>>82660478
They both are. Harris panders to reddit atheists and Peterson panders to youtube kekistanis

>>82661003
Um... shut up idiot.

>>82661019

gotcha, my mistake

>>82661029
>They both are.

No, you don't even know what a sophist is.

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>>82660998
Respectfully, you're full of shit. The world doesn't "keep spinnin' " for people who lose their jobs over not using the right pronouns for their mentally ill co-worker, or for the guy who gets imprisoned because a woman regretted the consensual sex they had after the fact.

I am completely fine with people doing whatever they want with their own bodies. Cut your dick off. Grow your hair out. I don't care. The problem is that's not enough for these people because they are sadists down to the core. This is starting to affect everybody's lives now. That's the distinction.

>>82660998
he's an egoist, they think the world revolves around their own thoughts and emotions

>>82660505
>>82661003

World piece was a great show, suck my dick.

Sam hyde is a funny guy.

>>82661090

yea but he's gone off the fucking rails

he didn't take the cancellation well and it shows

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>>82659686
>mfw I make six figures annually in the tech industry as a high level middle-man between not juggernaut level but still sizable tech companies and my room is filthy

>>82661085
>the guy who gets imprisoned because a woman regretted the consensual sex they had after the fact.

What does that have to do with trannies?

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>>82659655
He is a bullshit artist. The memes are good tho.There are people who take everything he says as gospel or deep philosophical stuff maaaaaan.

>>82661085
> for people who lose their jobs over not using the right pronouns for their mentally ill co-worker

this just doesn't fucking happen. Unless you call your co-worker a faggot or a tranny to their face which is so implausible with almost zero chance of it happening/ Reminder Peterson wasn't fired fucking nothing happened to him at all he's a D list celebrity and a social justice warrior now

>>82661110

Don't really care about his rails.
The show didn't deserve to be cancelled.

>>82661126
The emotional state of one person dictating the reality of the other person. Progressives have made so much progress we've moved beyond actually insults and actual conflict now. If you FEEL like you're not being respected or obeyed you can now cause trouble for other human beings. This is not how a society operates in the long term.

have yet to see a more cynical and post modernist group of people than the Peterson following

>>82661177
trip dubs

>>82661085
The world doesn't keep spinning for people who die from poverty/starvation/murder either. There's always problems in the world and always will be, but it keeps spinning and the quality of life keeps going up.

>>82661085
>Respectfully,
reddit

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>>82661177
You mean zealots. Peterson is playing 1d backgammon dude!

>>82661148
>this just doesn't fucking happen.

Oh, okay, you fucking faggot.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/23/transgender-teacher-gets-60k-after-co-workers-wont-call-her-they/

https://nypost.com/2016/05/19/city-issues-new-guidelines-on-transgender-pronouns/

http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/20/trans-conference-celebrates-getting-people-fired-not-calling-men-women/

I'm certain a boss would rather pay a quarter of a million dollars than just let you go for not appeasing a delusional psychopath.

>nothing happened to him
He lost a grant for the first time in his career for no good reason.

>>82659881
>benefits of nihilism

LMFAo didnt know it was possible to be this stupid

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>>82661260
>Those sources.
I bet you listen to Sargon too.

>>82660268
Zizek is a retard

>>82660675
>censorship is our duty

What the fuck is wrong with you

>>82661311
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? Are you denying that New York has a policy in place to find people for not using the correct pronouns in the workplace? Yes or no.

>>82659881
>benefits of nihilism

LEL

Fascism is literally postmodernism, there are no higher principles involved only power and aesthetics, /pol/ only cares about not having power, the alt-right, gamergate faggots grew out of the fedora movement and are nihilistic faggots buttmad about their lack of power in modern society Spencer is an atheist, Enoch that faggot Molyneux and Vox Day are atheists the faggots at countercurrents are atheists the MRA are mostly faggots and atheists it all comes down to a lack of power and the lack of status in the social hierarchy which is related to sex so it's sexual frustration as well.

>>82661311
Not an argument.

>>82661073
To put it very bluntly, "wisdom" for hire, with the emphasis much more on the for hire part than the wisdom part

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>>82660268
um no sweetie

>>82661204
>and the quality of life keeps going up

Overall on average throughout the world but this isn't going to be maintained. Any kind of gains in Africa will revert as soon as people stop giving charity there because there's no security or infrastructure. The West is starting to crumble and you know it is. Ask people in certain parts of England, Germany, or Sweden if life is better now than it was before.

>>82661338
It means that your sources are complete bullshit hence your argument is backed up by some exaggerated lies. Don't check the sources yourself or form your own opinions about the stuff you read, you cynical prick. Keep listening to Sargon or the other drama queens.

>>82661148
I’m non-binary, and I have come out in both my work and my personal life. I started a full-time job after I finished college around the same time I began coming out. Everyone at work has been cool except for one person.

Since I came out, I have been addressing people as gender-neutral [ze, hir, mx.] I do this because there are others who are non-binary like me, but they may not be out yet and I want to be respectful and make them feel safe. The one person from my work who is not cool with me being non-binary told me to address her using female pronouns. I’m not misgendering this person, I’m using gender-neutral pronouns, not incorrect ones. However, this person corrects me every time. No one else has corrected me or said anything. This person says they respect my pronouns (true) and I need to respect theirs. I thought this person was transgender and I didn’t want to offend or upset if this was the case, but when I asked they said are not, they are cisgendered.

I went to my team lead about this, but my team lead said this person is not doing anything wrong and just because they want to be addressed with female pronouns does not make them against non-binary people. I’m thinking of talking to my manager or going to HR if that doesn’t work. This person makes me uncomfortable. What should I say? When I talk to my manager, should I bring up the fact that others may also feel uncomfortable or should I only focus my own discomfort?

>>82661422
Okay, I see. You got proven wrong and now you're going to do some epic troll and get me all angry and upset at you and take a moral victory. Uh huh.

DUDE THOSE BLOODY POSTMODERNISTS LMAO

>>82661260
that's one fucking example and nobody got fired she sued the school. The thing is
America is a litigious society you can sue somebody for looking at you wrong I can bring up dozens of cases for people being sued over ridiculous shit and for having their feelings hurt unrelated to left wing shit the corporations shilling this are covering their ass and their bottom line

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>>82659655
>feminist men are sneaky and creepy

Tru

>>82659911
Not the guy, but Jesus takes upon every single burden possible. Basically, Jesus has every single worst thing that can happen to him happen. He is betrayed by his friends (His apostles), his countrymen (The Romans and Jews), and his family (God) and left to die in one of the most painful and slow ways possible.

Yet, he takes on this burden willingly in order to save the rest of humanity. That's why this transcends from Jesus getting merely unlucky into the ultimate story of bearing one's responsibility.

>>82661432
It's a good thing people like this chop their dicks off. I honestly think transgenderism is a blessing in disguise; helps weed out the mentally ill and counter-act the dysgenics caused by scientific progress.

>>82661474
You don't fucking get it. We're entering an era where the feelings of the person are more important than what actually happened. There are multiple laws in the books now where the intent of the offending person doesn't even factor into the punishment given out.

This isn't some natural progression Western society has been dealing with for decades. A person can claim anything makes them FEEL unsafe and they will win more and more often. That's not conducive to law and order or social cohesion.

>>82661463
>postmodernist detected

CLEAN YOUR ROOM

>>82661559
I want to be that optimistic, but the amount of virtue signalling parents who emotionally abuse their children wanting to fit into this trend I believe outweigh the people taken out of the gene pool.

>>82661432

Your pronouns are all crazy horse shit. Thanks for helping push the world into an Orwellian nightmare.

>>82661171
>The emotional state of one person dictating the reality of the other person

But that's what politics has always been

>>82659655
Peterson is 100% onto something, we just gotta let time develop his ideas.

>>82661605
Those virtue signalling fucks are mentally ill in their own way, I'm happy their genetic lines end at their children.

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>>82661459
>le epic trole
All those sources you brought over are dogshit, you dense babe.
>I'm certain a boss would rather pay a quarter of a million dollars than just let you go for not appeasing a delusional psychopath.
>He lost a grant for the first time in his career for no good reason.
What is this bullshit line of thinking. Jesus christ...

>>82661611
Not on such a personal, day to day level. And also not on such a ever-changing level. A person can feel like being called one thing one day and then something else the next. There's no limit now.

>>82661564
This shit has been happening for a while tho People have sued for being "offended" for whatever reason for years now. Al lit takes is a good fucking lawyer and all the appropriate legal precedents are already established.

>>82661659
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/cchr/law/legal-guidances-gender-identity-expression.page

>>82659655
Because chaos is an important part of myth and Kek is supposed to be the embodiment of chaos. The fact that it has followers is what he's lecturing about.

>>82661613
he has already made his ideas pretty clear though. he repeats the same arguments, anyone who has been watching him for some time has already heard all of them. not that they are bad, it's just that he doesn't have much to add anymore.

can we just get ww3 already i'm so tired of politics.

as someone who has spent a good portion of their life studying the hermetic tomes and reaching a deeper understanding of the brahman / absolute / nous / what have you, I feel that peterson and his followers are not genuine in their search for hidden truths. the metaphysical is merely a fashion accessory for them to wave around behind a mask of egotistic detachment. it is their own contempt for maya that makes them so susceptible to nihilistic apathy, forever cleaning their room, never seeing the work come to fruition.

>>82661786
Oh yea, ww3 would definitely stifle the political conversation

>>82661783
It's not that he doesn't have anything to add. I think he's said his piece in terms of politics, but in terms of current affairs, I think that he's a great interpreter of what is happening.

>>82661814
When there's a genuine crisis all of these people with too much time, energy, and resources on their hands to come up with this bullshit will fade away. It's the "Beautiful Ones" experiment.

>>82661814

global nuclear war is gonna make everything really chill.

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>>82659815
You gave me cancer.

>>82661804
Now you just need to spend some time watching his videos to stop speaking out of your ass

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He isn't the most emotionally stable person but he's just concerned about the future, which is understandable since he has children I guess.

I know that once I'm dead none of it matters so I'm not that worried about the way things are heading.

>>82661804
I don't know if you've actually just never listened to any of his work or if you're just trolling.

>>82661859
>I think that he's a great interpreter of what is happening.
I also think that, but as I said anyone who has followed him for some time knows all of his arguments. I'm not dismissing him when I say that, I learned a lot with him and respect the guy a ton, but with every new video I see of him there's less things to learn because he just repeats the same things every time.

>>82661804
this is some fine bait

>>82659655
>you will never eat ice cream in the park with jordan petersen.

When and why did /tv/ turn against him? What's up with that? He's fun to listen to and he almost never talks about politics, at least in the actual lectures, so I don't understand how anyone can be so triggered by him. Unless you're a commie I guess.

>>82662031
When he became popular

>>82662031
/lit/ marxists got triggered by him and started spreading their contempt to the other boards

>>82662031
tv is the biggest pussy on 4chan

>>82662031
He doesn't say much. It's all a convaluted way of saying "I don't like tyranny's" " SJW's are authoritarian", " authoritarianism is bad" " le individualiusm may may"

He doesn't even really believe in the bible when pressed he thinks it's a good story. He doesn't really even believe in god when pressed his answers are the weak ass deist shit.

>>82662031

When did /tv/ ever like him?

>>82662018
it's not bait. i've dedicated my life to the search for gnosis and I hate to see charlatans use it as a cheap device for political pandering.

>>82662121
>le god must really physically exist or it's all bullshit

you don't get it

this thread confirms /tv/ are a bunch of fucking brainlets

>>82662121
Do you have a list of points prepared when you shill like this? What does him believing in the Bible has to do with his lectures being good or not? Also, who like tyranny exactly, what's your point? And he always was against individualism, I don't know what you refer to when you say le may may

>>82662181
>charlatans
Yes, a professor is a charlatan meanwhile you, a guy shitposting on tv, is the real deal.

>>82662195
>you don't get it

There's nothing to get.

>I'll just pretend to believe in falsehoods because it's good for me

>>82662131
I always liked him. I'm /tv/, I like Dafne

>>82662235
You can't prove morales exist. So why don't you kill your family right now? surely it doesn't matter

>>82662195
Deism is Sargon Of Akkad tier faggotry. It's an intellectual cop out. A deist god doesn't place a moral judgment on tranny's, that's why Peterson when pressed says he's ok with tranny's because they are "individuals" they are just being used by le evil SJW postmodernist authoritarian agenda.
" Authoritarianism" is bad when it comes to tranny pronouns the many other manifestations of authoritarianism are absent for this faggot

>>82662181
>Peterson uses gnosis for political pandering.
yeah this is bait alright

>>82662261
>So why don't you kill your family right now?

Because I don't feel like it?

>>82662218
i have communed with the spirits of ancient samurai warriors and roman centurions

>>82662235
>believe in falsehoods because it's good for me
Yes, that's exactly the point. Can you argue against it? Should we all do what's bad for us instead in the name of "truth" that changes based on latest discoveries year after year? Why?

>>82662121
>He doesn't even really believe in the bible when pressed he thinks it's a good story

You literally don't understand what any of his lectures are actually about. He doesn't think that the stories in the Bibles literally happened, but he does believe that they're true.

>>82662302
yeah but why?

prove it.

You should actually listen to his lectures because it's clear your opinion is based off snippets.

>>82662332
>Yes, that's exactly the point. Can you argue against it?

Yes, by declaring them falsehoods I can't believe in them because I know they're false. It's tautological. Get fucked idiot.

>>82660259
probably because you don't understand what nihilism actually means

>>82659655
>lunatic
>hated exclusively by mentally ill "others" such as communists, nonbinaries, and numales.

Hmmmmm...

>>82662345
>yeah but why?

Why would I? Do you have a point or are you just say childish shit?

>>82662375
oh please enlighten me

>>82662288
>intellectual cop out
Yes, only the enlightened atheists are intellectually honest. I mean there's no reason to think this isn't a simulation, but IT'S NOT HONEST HURRRRRR. By the way, a simulation has creators, those are gods. Simulation theory includes deism.

>>82662333
> but he does believe that they're true.

> You literally don't understand what any of his lectures are actually about

I didn't listen to any of that shit I just know him from Joe Rogan and his some Harris shit. I'm positive that you can't find anywhere where he says that these stories are literally true. He faps to Karl Jung and thinks they are great examples of heroic story archetypes

>>82662345
cuz neurology, his programming is not compelling him to kill his family.

>>82662412
> By the way, a simulation has creators, those are gods. Simulation theory includes deism.

Yes exactly, the Deist god might as well be an alien or some Matrix shit once you take him caring about morality out of the equation

>>82662399
nihilism is the negation of intrinsic meaning. it doesn't mean the absence of meaning.

>>82662372
>by declaring them falsehoods I can't believe in them
I don't believe that alcohol is good, I still drink. I don't believe that Christian God exists, I still prefer his ideology to the ideology of atheists. Is that so hard to understand? Stop pretending that you're governed by logic. Why are you here if you're a logical being? Go do something logical, Mr. Robot sir. Arguing ITT isn't logical.

>>82662396
my point is that humans mostly exist within the metaphysical realm of emotions thought and abstract ideas.

To make out that all that matters is the physical realm and everything empirical doesn't make any sense.

Religion is a working model of the metaphysical subconscious.

>>82662415
>I'm positive that you can't find anywhere where he says that these stories are literally true.
that's exactly what the other anon said, you fuck. what makes you think you can dismiss the ideas of others when you can't even read a fucking sentence correctly?

>>82662415
Listen again to his second Sam Harris podcast. He literally lays out the entirety of what I just said.

>>82659655
I don't know too much about this guy but I do know that he's against cultural marxism, which makes him alright in my book.

>>82662031
You underestimate the amount of commies that browse here.

>>82662492
Well can you give us a quick rundown?

Because that's what his audience of alt-right fan-goys want, retard. He earns $30,000 a month on Patreon.

>>82662477
>I don't believe that alcohol is good, I still drink.

Well obviously you do believe it's good otherwise you wouldn't drink

> I don't believe that Christian God exists, I still prefer his ideology to the ideology of atheists.

So then why pretend God exists? Why lie about it? why even call it God's ideology? Moron.

>>82662460
For me, a God is the force responsible for building the world. Yes, there was a big bang, but big bang happened according to the laws of physics. They were not created in a big bang, they already were there. And that problem will always exist in science, there will always be a place science can't reach and we have no choice but to stuff our beliefs in those spots or to go full retard and be agnostic.

>>82662475
so the anon stands correct. if you're going to discuss the benefits of nihilism, you need an objective unit of measurement to be able to determine that.

>>82662514
30k a month just to shit on marxists

Literally a dream job

>>82662481
>Religion is a working model of the metaphysical subconscious.

This statement means nothing, it's just sophistry. Try thinking instead.

>>82662562
>hurr I'm a brainlet things I can't understand are just sophistry durr

maybe because this stuff is in real life. the internet and its happenings is in real life. it may seem stupid but I reckon a lot of things are stupid if you look hard enough at them.

>>82662583

Try thinking instead.

>>82662530
>Well obviously you do believe it's good otherwise you wouldn't drink
No I don't. Don't you ever do things that are bad for you? What are you talking about, are you sure you're human?

>So then why pretend God exists?
I'm not pretending, I'm making assumptions and so are you. The force that people call "luck" or "fate" is the same force others call God. There are some things in this life you don't control. Whatever force controls them is the force people call God. You may call it the preditermined destiny of the universe, doesn't matter. It's still a force that rules over you.

>>82662562
t. pseud

>>82662602
>>Religion is a working model of the metaphysical subconscious.
>not pseudointellectual bullshit

lol

Nihilism is meaningless.

C WUT I DID THAR M8S LELEZ

>>82662597
>if i repeat myself and double down ill avoid having to think
pseudo intellectual

>>82662539
Even if you press a fedora he will probably agree with you about a first cause and a first principle. But that has nothing to do with anything. The question is about truth and morality and a deist god has no claim on that.

Militant atheists are cringe retards and that;s why people dislike them. It's actually a very simple idea that god does not exist has been shilled for in the mainstream for like 1160 years but they refuse to explore the full consequences of there being no god

>>82662646
160*

>>82662627
You have no idea what the fuck kind of discussion you have gotten yourself into, that's why when faced with that claim you just shut down like a retard and start spouting "lol try thinking dude xD"
You seem really intelligent buddy.

>>82662600
>No I don't. Don't you ever do things that are bad for you? What are you talking about, are you sure you're human?

Are you retarded? Why do you drink? Go on, explain it to me.

>The force that people call "luck" or "fate" is the same force others call God. There are some things in this life you don't control. Whatever force controls them is the force people call God. You may call it the preditermined destiny of the universe, doesn't matter. It's still a force that rules over you.

Sounds like you're shifting the definition of God so that people don't make fun of your for believing in it so much.

>>82662627
so emotions are pseudoscience?

>>82660043
Any deviations from prevailing ideology are seen as "literal Hitler". And shunned under the rug.

>>82662646
>deist god
Stop saying that, sort yourself out.

>>82662638

Try thinking instead

Nuke this thread from orbit

>>82662697

>emotions
>metaphysical

fucking lol

>>82659815
That gave me cancer. We need to wipe the reddit filth with a month of niggers and gore.

>>82662511
I don't remember the exact quote, but here's how I understand it:

I'll give the example of Braveheart, if you've ever watched that movie. We know historically that the events of the movie didn't literally take place as shown. In fact we know that most of what was shown didn't take place at all.

But the movie speaks to you, and what it says about human nature, and the fight for freedom, and the drive for people to seek freedom is more true than any of the actual history.

This is the idea of the Mythological Truth. There is more truth in great works like Shakespeare, Dostoevsky, and Homer than there is in the lives that most people actually live.

>>82659743
t. filthy room

>>82662677

see

>>82662712

>>82662712
>third time he's said this
Take your own advice.

>>82662688
>Are you retarded? Why do you drink? Go on, explain it to me.
Because I'm addicted to drinking. What the fuck, are you 12?

>Sounds like you're shifting the definition of God
Sounds like you don't understand that Christianity is not the only deist belief. I'm not Christian, but you insist on pretending I am. The God I believe in is not a Christian God. People called the force of nature "God" since the dawn of time, that's the whole point of "God".

>>82662697
emotions are a chemical reaction. You can induce emotional states with the right injections. Nothing metaphysical about that shit

>>82662730
do you even know what metaphysics is?

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>>82662646
> It's actually a very simple idea that god does not exist has been shilled for in the mainstream for like 1160 years but they refuse to explore the full consequences of there being no god

serious question is this bait?

>>82662547
if you're a nihilist you can still think things are good without needing some metaphysical objective truth to uphold it. thats the point of nihilism. instead of getting precepts from the bible or a rabbi, the individual decides for themselves what is good or bad, worthwhile or useless.

so a nihilist can find something beneficial quite reasonably while you still seem to think that 'if you're a nihilist than that means you believe in the absence of all meaning'

>>82662762
Jordan Peterson says that God is conceptualized unknown. Ever since Humans looked at the stars and thought the Gods were there or whatever

>>82659881
>Benefits of nihilism
You need Jesus. Try reading the bible and visiting your local church.

>>82662740

So basically Mythological Truth is just "Truth"

>>82662785
Yeah, I've never read any of his work, but doesn't fucking Nietzsche do exactly that? Discuss the consequences of no God? "God is dead"?
The cost of nihilism in the 20th century?

I've never been so disappointed in /tv/.

>>82662785
160 years. Yes Atheism was mainstream 160 years ago look up any philosopher or political movement from that time.

>>82662788
ok mr. nihilism misinterpreter, explain how one decides entirely on their own what is good and bad.

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>all these unsorted plebs ITT
neck yourselves faggots

>>82662817
Or Metaphysical truth?
>>82662797
This so much.

>>82662762
>Because I'm addicted to drinking. What the fuck, are you 12?

Why are you addicted to drinking?

>Sounds like you don't understand that Christianity is not the only deist belief.

Christianity isn't a deist belief you idiot.

>>82662850
however they want

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>>82662841
Do you know who Nietzsche is?

>>82662870
>Or Metaphysical truth?

No, it's just "truth", as in, what you want to believe. It doesn't make it actually true, it's still just your imagination.

>>82662762
You're a retard who's "not religious" but "spiritual" you are a coward and a faggot neck yourself cunt you are worse than an atheist

>>82662884
you have a lot to learn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgcd6jvsCFs

>>82662900
Do you know that Atheism is older than Nietzsche? Nietzsche was writing after the fact when society has pretty much accepted that god is dead as a consequence of all the rationalism, Positivism, empiricism,e evolution shit that already took place

>>82662934
right now im choosing not to watch your children book author's video

>>82662788
Except that you have no power to be gained from collective and mysticism, and sever yourself from the very fruit of religion, magic and the unknown. I'm not a Christian, but if one adopts certain 'mystic' mindsets, such as the idea that everything you're experiencing is divine in some way, you can essentially hack your own brain to perform better than it did before simply by being more aware and attaching more sentimentality to everyday life.

You will never be apart of anything related to religion, and will perish under people who are. Islam being the most obvious example of a religion that now commands a very socially and politically forboding presence when it comes to its influence. Christianity was once the same way.

4chan caused a mass awakening of Atheists towards religious thought with Kek. Now these people have fused it with a very potent memeplex which has tons of influence on reality itself. Kek is an integral part of that. These people were probably 95% atheists/agnostics and are now full-on believers that incorporate science, mythologies, coincidences, symbolism, and occultism into a workable life-structure that is extremely anti-nihilistic. It's incredible that we are entering a new age of belief, and our saving grace against the plague that is nihilism.

>>82662884
if you're a nihilist in any respect you can't have true meaning. a true meaningful life is acting a thinking as if absolute everything matters. You can't just cherry pick what you think is "meaningful"

>"yeah bro my life meaning is smoking weed all day and fapping to ponies"

hedonism is not meaning

>>82662762

Sounds like you're just being a special snowflake.

>>82662975
Sure, close yourself into your pride and refuse to broaden your view. let's see how that works out for you in the future.

>>82659655
He's an absolute genius, he will certainly be remembered amongst the titans of philosophy.

If any of you autistic retards are curious, he doesn't at all align with /pol/, or the alt-right.
If you were to put him into a box politically, the most appropriate place (in the American dichotomy) would be the Liberal party.

As usual with genuine centrist academics, his credibility is to some small extent being exploited by alt-right degenerates, taking him out of appropriate context to push their ideological narrative.
As are the far left, mind.

If you have the intellect for it, his lectures are outstanding, I would recommend them.

His political commentary, although deeply insightful, is his least interesting work.

>>82662939
I'm talking about this
>It's actually a very simple idea that god does not exist has been shilled for in the mainstream for like 1160 years but they refuse to explore the full consequences of there being no god
You corrected yourself and said 160 years, i was just saying that didn't Nietzsche do this?
He was born like 160 years ago

>>82663021
>4chan caused a mass awakening of Atheists towards religious thought with Kek.

Jesus Christ get your head out of your ass you autistic child. Did you copy paste this from Peterson's website or something?

This is intolerable levels of cringe

>>82663046
>he will certainly be remembered amongst the titans of philosophy.
Definitely not. I'm a big fan of Peterson but he hasn't contributed anything new to philosophy.

>>82663083
There are thousands of people browsing a Mongolian finger painting board right now who genuinely believe a primordial Egyptian God has reawakened and shows himself via dubs.

For your pea brain, I'm going to once again explain my post: Religion and 'mystic thought' is a positive and successful way to, in a utilitarian manner, organize human will.

>>82663079
Neitzsche contribution was fully exploring the consequences of there being no god and no absolute truth leading to the conclusion that power is the only thing that's good and meaningful but Atheism as a thing has been around for much longer especially among the scientific elites they just didn't think about it too much or they had faith in humanism and scientific progress to same shit most atheists are doing nowadays

>>82663030
you're not intellectually prepared to begin this discussion. read beyond good & evil by nietzsche

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>>82659881

>>82663190
>genuinely believe a primordial Egyptian God has reawakened and shows himself via dubs.
no, no they dont.

>>82663110
Then who would you say Peterson's insights are wholesale borrowed from?

I feel entirely comfortable arguing he successfully articulates a new depth of understanding in the realm of moral philosophy.

>>82663044
a guy who probably doesnt read philosophy and gets his metaphysical truths from a guy on youtube is calling me closeminded

>>82663192
oh ok i get it now. thank you for explaining

>>82663244
They kinda do. It's a very powerful meme and all religions and gods are pretty much memes. As a god of chaos and irony kek is super effective and he treats his worshippers like trash too, their reality is warped, chaotic and their daily lives are the ultimate irony

>>82663244
You got dubs. Must be true ; )

Believe what you want - I don't think you browse /pol/, so I don't think you'd know. I'm sure you'll respond to this saying "obviously I don't browse /pol/" - Guess what? I don't have to argue with you because you mean absolutely nothing. Your life means nothing, and you will probably never achieve anything of note. You are a cog in the machine and a man devoid of purpose or beauty. Watch yourself be washed away by those who actually seize life by the balls and forge it for themselves.

>>82663190
>who genuinely believe a primordial Egyptian God has reawakened and shows himself via dubs.

No they don't you imbecile

Are you mentally deficient?

>>82662031
Well I'm a "commie" as are most of the people who browse this board

>>82663295
>It's a very powerful meme

What are you like 12 years old? Do you understand what a joke is? You really need to get off the internet before you turn out like Elliot Rodgers

>>82663304
>>82663083
obvious samefag. who's autistic now?

>>82663326
There are thousands of people who legitimately believe in kek

>>82663261
His views are an amalgam of the philosophy of many writers before him (Jung, Heidegger, Nietzsche and many others), he hasn't presented any new ideas. I'm not saying that what he teaches isn't valuable, it certainly is, just that his ideas aren't novel.

>>82663349

No there aren't

>>82663301
I do browse /pol/, I see Esoteric Kekism as ironic.
Also your next statement is false.
Just to show you an example of what I mean, for example, a persons life has no meaning.
On average you meet 1000 people in your lifetime. The person you meet will meet 1000. So you are 2 people away from a million and 3 people away from 3 million

>>82660415
Chomsky is a hack and is only popular because he's a kike, like Harris.

>>82659743
Surprisingly accurate.

>>82663370
They KINDA do. Ironic worship is still worship.

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>>82663317

>>82663408

No they don't, shut the fuck up already

>>82663326
>turns out like Elliot Rodgers
not that anon but Elliot i.e the supreme Gentleman (peace be upon him) did nothing wrong, normie faggot

>>82663326
You can take a joke too far. At first you browse /pol/ and think oh look traps are just ironic and not gay lol Hitlur did nuffin wrong meme next thing you know you're a fapping to traps daily you're a raving homosexual neo-nazi in pretty much every way but still think you're being ironic

>>82663412
A nigger in a hat? Fucking based.

>>82663425

This is fedora tipping levels of cringe

>>>/soc/
>>>/r9k/

>>82663435
This guy is so fucking triggered by /pol/ you can tell.
>traps and hitler and politically incorrect being linked any way whatsoever besides your latent homosexuality
Fuck off

>>82663422
yeah they do, Aleister Crowley thought demons were ironic and not really real but look at all the Pizzagate shit years later

>>82663501
Fuck off, eddie bravo

>>82663435
There aren't traps on /pol/ and /pol/ is anti degeneracy, i don't know where you get the notion that liking traps is ironic and people masturbate ironically.
Hitler dindu nuffin wrong is a stormfront psyops meme. Genocide denial is against the LAW, in some countries anon. Come on now.
What kind of meme reality do you live in?

>>82663375
Literal nonsense. Even if it is true that individuality gets lost in the milieu of an overpopulated global society, the prescription and diagnosis by people calling themselves nihilists is not a lack of literal value but a lack of higher purpose or meaning to life. They find that idea titillating, because they are simple minded and boring people who are supremely vain.

What you've revealed here is that you are not only a complete imbecile, but someone who enjoys wallowing in their own self-fulfilling prophecy of shit. You enjoy wallowing in a pile of your own muck, and you will never move from it. Good luck.

>>82663523
t.cunnyposter

>>82663435

You sound like that Fox News report that labelled anonymous as terrorists with exploding vans. You're like an outsider looking in on an in-joke and misinterpreting it completely to the embarrassment of everyone else.

Unfortunately most of /pol/ users are exactly the same and now we're in the position where these cancerous newfaggots infect every board with their offtopic shitposting, like >>82659655

>>82663541
>t. flat earth shill

>>82663526
/pol/ loves the fags what are you talking about?

>>82663528
All I said was people don't unironically worship an ancient egyption frog god.
And that as a person you meet a lot of people and can affect a lot of peoples lives.
Keep projecting there, bud. Good luck.

>>82663368
An opinion necessary implying any complex philosophy is entirely original to ones own mind...

I wholeheartedly disagree with your contention on that one basis at the least.

>>82663046
>He's an absolute genius, he will certainly be remembered amongst the titans of philosophy.
no

>>82663565
flatearth is a psyop to discredit legitimate shit like pedophiles in government

>>82663577
Only when they're fucking based.

>>82662475
Does that then mean Existentialism is answer to Nihilism? I mean to say "there isn't intrinsic meaning,so then define your own meaning" of Existentialism hinge upon Nihilism's "there isn't intrinsic meaning"?

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>tfw when you're not white so the tradcons can't emotionally blackmail you into falling for the vaginaljew and losing your autistic hobbies
Feels bittersweet.

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>>82663599
What an undeniably sound contention you have put forth!

I am just now throwing all that I have learned in the metaphorical bin and pledging myself to restructure my entire understanding of philosophy.

Thank you.

>>82663553
There are three ways to do this once your iq is high enough, either you suspend disbelief enough and gaslight yourself into christianity for cultural and sentimental reasons or you do the nihilism until it breaks you or you actually go the recommended route by Nietzsche and acquire earthly power and glory for yourself and forget about all that deep degenerate weakling jew metaphysical shit

>>82659655
There's something seriously wrong with this guy. I can't quite put my finger on it, but he himself admitted it with the vague "health issues" he mentioned in the last JRE. I'm betting on schizoid or schizoaffective disorder

>>82663592
I don't mean to come of as offensive but the truth is that I'm simply too tired (it's 4 am here) to start discussing this right now. I just highly doubt that he will be remembered as a titan of philoshopy, I really don't see that happening.
good night and have a nice weekend, I really need some sleep

>>82663725
I choose both.

>>82663679
> not white
so you will be blackmailed by your mentally retarded and superstitious third world relatives

>>82663814
Yeah that's already happening. Christ loving Slavshits are god damn obnoxious.

>>82663742
hes depressed. studied totalitarianism belief systems in the 20yh century for like 15 years straight and has paintings of stalin and hitler in his room to "remind him of the murders"

>>82663844
>slavs
>not white

>>82663872
>has paintings of stalin and hitler in his room to "remind him of the murders"
See, this is something normal people don't do.

>>82661557
How are other people's fuck ups my responsibility? Don't be a cuck.

>>82662245
What?

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>>82659743

>I took gender studies in university and all I accomplished was making this image