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What are your favorite Howard Hawks movies?
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first for realism sucks
second for fairie toons suck
>>82550644
Dubs confirm.
Artistry > realism
>>82550702
Animation can't be art. Painting and lithography can but not animation
>>82548220
Link?
/27amdi34
>>82548843
I bet you enjoy the films of Wes Anderson.
>>82550892
You finally stopped that retarded mouthspaghetti wall, eh? Anyways, lookin' good.
any movies where the character goes over a month without ejaculating and his testicles become as big as melons? asking for a friend
>>82549102
I used to own a copy of this book. RIP Gilbert.
>>82550939
停機四十天 (2002)
>>82550939
Probably some Hong Sang-soo garbage.
Redpill me on Hawks meme
>>82551085
>watching ape hoop
Anyway, that town is fucking cursed.
>>82551085
He's just that, a meme. He makes shallow entertainment. He himself even acknowledged that even though he shitted on Capra's post-39 career.
>>82551215
What about his innovations in onscreen dialogue?
>>82551259
Biggest meme that ever was. Edmund Goulding and David Butler already did it first.
>>82551296
>cinema is a contest about who did something first and innovation determines the artistic merit of a film
That last thread was an embarrassment for fedor/a/s
>>82551414
Please. You and I both know you wouldn't even be giving one glance at Howard Hawks' flicks if it weren't for them being prominently featured on Sight and Sound and Brian De Palma remaking Scarface.
>>82551468
Shut the fuck up, fedora. Hawks still makes good flicks.
>>82550611
People are just going to throw up the usuals, so how about I suggest some others froma 40+ year career?
Just watched a film.
>>82550611
And this is a fantastic World War I film he directed that stands toe-to-toe with Quiet on the Western Front
how do you guys find shit to watch?
>>82551702
Blogs and books. There's an early talkie blog I like to use
>>82551702
A good movie comes on TCM or I find a lesser known film from a director I previously enjoyed. How do you not find films to watch?
>>82550939
>testicles become as big as melons
show us those big boys, bb
>>82550611
>What are your favorite Howard Hawks movies?
Only Angels Have Wings, His Girl Friday, Rio Bravo. Man's Favorite Sport? is also way underrated.
>>82551784
>or I find a lesser known film from a director I previously enjoyed
That's where many people mess up. You often find the real hidden gems when search by editors
>>82551800
>Man's Favorite Sport? is also way underrated.
To who
>>82551784
>How do you not find films to watch?
it's hard when there's so much to pick from
>>82551866
Most people. It's underseen for sure and mostly regarded as mid-tier Hawks, but it's one of his best I think.
>>82551800
>Man's Favorite Sport? is also way underrated.
I hate this movie. Essentially Hawks tries to transport one of his 30s or 40s comedies to the 60s and the result doesn't really come together. Maybe I should watch it again but I don't know if I could endure the boredom.
>>82551800
>Man's Favorite Sport?
Shit flick. Phoniest set in any film. Rock Hudson is a shit wannabe Cary Grant
>>82551841
I've tried that and director of photography but I always end up with editors with less than 5 credits.
>>82551893
Make a list separate from your watchlist that's of your backlog and sort by priority. Or you can sort your watchlist by average rating and that'll sometimes show you the more popular and revered films you need to watch.
>>82551924
What do you think of the Criminal Code and The Dawn Patrol? What about Fazil?
>>82552004
Rock Hudson was really great at playing people who are living a lie for some reason.
>>82552056
I don't think I've seen any of Hawks's silent films. The Criminal Code is one of his best, The Dawn Patrol wasn't a favorite but I liked it and would probably like it more on rewatch.
>>82552129
>I don't think I've seen any of Hawks's silent films
Word is they aren't good.
>>82552129
Don't list to >>82552147 Fazil and A Girl In Port are his best films. They nail everything about him with regards to sexual politics and mise en scene. Fazil is the literal clashing of generational cultures.
>>82552328
No, none of Hawks' silent films are better than his sound films. If you think this you don't get Hawks.
>>82538987
I haven't, I will (whenever I looked before there were too many Blu versions and I couldn't figure out which was best and didn't bother)
>>82542246
I got them all on line as remuxes/full discs
>>82552383
Film is a visual not auditory medium. If you think any of his sound pictures are better than his silent, you've never seen them
>crime/noir kino
detective story
dead end
the letter
desperate hours
the collector
>war/epic/ kino
best years of our lives
ben-hur
mrs miniver
the memphis belle
the westerner
the big country
friendly persuasion
>romance/comedy/musical kino
wuthering heights
jezebel
these three
roman holiday
funny girl
how to steal a million
the good fairy
come and get it
>drama kino
dodsworth
the little foxes
the heiress
the children's hour
counsellor at law
hell's heroes
why is this guy sounderrated?
>>82552671
Why was this deleted?
>>82552061
>be one of the most handsome men in the industry
>kiss hundreds of women on screen
>not actually into it
Same thing happened with jean marais
>>82552733
Why was this posted?
>>82552738
There's a scene in MFS where he describes how disgusted he is by fish even though he's supposed to be a fishing expert, it's so much funnier with the context of his personal life.
>>82552639
He's not underrated. He's one of the directors with the most Oscar wins and was and the Holy Grail of cinema's direction for Andre Bazin, along with Orson Welles, Carl Theodore Dreyer and Roberto Rosselini.
>>82552639
Did I actually write Dreyer? No I meant Jean Renoir, the French spiritual successor of the legendary DW Griffith.
>>82550892
You wish you were me.
>>82550931
>mouthspaghetti
Oh, you mean GENRE PREFERENCES! lol
>>82552639
Did you really say William Wyler was underrated? He was one of the most respected directors in Hollywood next to John Ford. They were practically inseparable.
William Wyler is the Ridley Scott, Christopher Nolan and David Fincher of his day. Boring, impersonal Hollywood studio director who is mostly forgotten today, as will the others be in the future.
Torn between watching new movies and rewatching movies I like. How do you deal with this problem, lbg?
>>82553518
I think Alien means Scott is a guy that will be remembered a long time from now
Less sure on the other two. I guess Nolan will be seen as a key figure in the superhero-wave or whatever they will call this
>>82553687
Yeah, the movies might be remembered while the guy who directed them will be secondary, like James Bond flick directors.
>>82553643
watch whatever you feel like watching, fag
>>82553518
You only say that because Andre Bazin loves him. And no, I do not like William Wyler because of Bazin, I tangentially share the opinions of William Wyler's films as Bazin. Before I even read Bazin's writings, I had the exact same opinions that films grounded in reality, complex choreography, multiple events happening in frame, and the subtle moving camera that exposes what we don't normally notice were qualities that denoted great cinema. All qualities founded in the grammar that Griffith created. I love blowing out plebs that say Griffith is boring because he's actually remarkably ahead of his time just like Bazin was. And he will not be forgotten in favor of disingenuous bullshit like Howard Hawks and Yevgeni Bauer.
>>82553880
>You only say that because Andre Bazin loves him.
Wrong.
I'm actually kidding about Howard Hawks though. Yevgeni Bauer and Viktor Seastrom I shit on, but Howard Hawks I'm actually okay with. But I don't hold him in higher regard than other directors I highly favor no matter how many genre's he touched.
>>82553934
>Viktor Seastrom
Griffith is cinematic poetry. I love him. The greatest American man in my eyes.
>>82553978
He really did love that sea.
>muh old movies
lmao fucking nerds
no movie made before the 60s is worthy anyone's time. they simply didn't have the resources to produce quality flicks
this is common sense, all my friends and acquaintances agree with this statement. only nerds and hipster think otherwise
>>82554256
you only believe that because it's when the modern cinema and postmodernism begins.
>>82554256
>retard pretending like his friends on the short bus form a valid peer group
http://tv.twcc.com/movie/blackhat-directors-cut/11080978
Mann's revised cut of Blackhat is showing on TV. Can a BD release be far behind? GET FUCKING HYPE
>>82555773
Maybe it will be good this time
>>82551800
>Man's Favorite Sport?
my nigger
Mann's favorite sport
>>82557786
MY FUCKING NIGGER
>>82555773
It's not the real director's cut of BLACKHAT unless Michael Mann sits behind us and laughs at a key character's death.
I realize I am hopelessly blind, but could any of the Michael Mannians in this general please cite one shot or sequence in any of his films that illustrates his distinctive use of space? All I can find in his work is the usual abuse of long lenses when he wants to intensify an emotion, spatially incoherent cutting when he wants to create a sense of excitement (I've seldom seen more mismatched shots than in the opening disco raid in "Miami Vice") and a newly formed habit of slipping in attention-grabbing deep focus shots when he needs a pictorial effect (preferably with picturesque sunsets or lighting flashing in the background). The deep focus that Mann has been using in his recent films is pretty much an automatic result of the HD video process; the trick with video is to create shallow spaces with softer definition. Jia Zhangke is an example of a director who is able to use the deep focus of HD video with an expressive end, particularly in the landscape shots in his last two films, "Dong" and "Still Life," which transform the scenery of the Three Gorges area into a kind of gigantic stage set for his tiny, striving characters, much as Raoul Walsh did back in 1930 with the widescreen "Big Trail."
Is he /ourguy/?
>>82561170
>Toni Erdmann favourite film of 2016
he's more of a /redditsguy/