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A Dream of Spring Edition

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>>82498020

ADOS release date & number of pages.
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>>82521348
0/0/0 and 0

Twow won't come out either. Grrm has completely given up and is happy spending all his free time whoring himself out.

He'd rather work on 2 of the 4 spinoffs for HBO
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1 book = 1 money.

Why would you write any book when you already have 2 moneys?
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Would you give her the floppy trout, /got/?
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Whom would win : Ser Gregor Clegane, or 5 (five) Russians from BOTN?
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>>82521348
Will a Dream of Spring be the title of a season seven episode (likely finale like TWOW) or a season eight episode (seems appropriate for the premiere title)?
I mean we know it won't be a published book.
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>>82521348
STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS
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>>82521348
Though George RR Martin did have minor roles in screenwriting (a notoriously underappreciated and underpaid job for the amount of work), that probably paid the bills. He never was really rich or successful until GoT hit it big which made the books extremly hot sellers (when before few had heard of them).

Seeing as how he's an old fat man likely in poor health (seriously how many 300+lbs men even make it to 68), I think he's just enjoying his millions and writing very sparingly.

There's been about 3 chapters worth of material leaked to show that he's actually working on it BUT all 3 chapters were material that was cut from the last book due to editing and length constraints.

I used to say he'd die before he finished his series.... now I even have my doubts that he'll get out one more book. That fucking book is now about 5 years behind schedule and the only material we know for sure he had done came from cut material from the last book.

He's not trying anymore.... and though I can understand where he's coming from, it sucks for the fans.

He's in a difficult situation now that the show has surpassed the events of the books. If his version of the GoT ending is inferior to the show's ending, he'll get shit on. And if the same stuff happens, he'll get shit on for ripping off the show.

I don't think he has any intent on finishing. I bet he hasn't even sat down to write in 5 years.

Success sometimes saps the creative impulses right out of someone....
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>>82521586
D E A D
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GRRM will release TWOW in 2018 & ADOS will be released on 2023.

I swear it, no joking
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Anyway...

Next thread: House Bolton
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>>82521882
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>>82521882
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>>82522056
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>>82522109
Based Roose liked them thicc
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>>82522146
Well, only because was offered a dowry that was his wife's weight in gold.... so he deliberately picked the most obese single woman in that family to marry.
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>>82522175
5d chess.
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>>82522056
>>82522109
>>82522131
Were his actions justified?
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>>82521401
His appearance indicates his work ethic, he'll be dead before the series ends
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>>82521348
>ADOS release date & number of pages.
stop making me open the thread if you don't have anything
reeee
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>>82522262
Walder looks so happy there. :3
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>>82522262

As a man no
As a Lord yes
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>>82522262
Friendly reminder that Roose Bolton did nothing wrong!
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>>82522451
he's just glad to be outliving as many tullys as possible
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>>82523351

He didn't drop Ramsay down a well
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>>82522383
To be completely honest im not even sure if i have it in me to wade through ADOS when and if it finally appears. Ill probably just suffer through the tv-series and call it done, i very much doubt the fat fuck can write the likes of first 3 books anymore.
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>>82523878
>>82523878
m gonna read all the kino bran chapters
ill just let /got/ fill me in on the rest of them
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>>82521560
Season 8 episode. Maybe A Time for Wolves for the season 7 finale
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>>82521484
One second, the priest is blessing their weapon for that extra damage against undead.
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>>82522215
More liks 500 lbs chess.
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Maisie
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Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright
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Boltonposter
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How does it feel to know that the fat fuck will probably die before TWOW is finished?
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Cast her
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>>82524994
Feels good knowing that we have someone even better to finish it.
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>>82524997
>spunky peasant girl with a large ass
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>>82524997
Some foreign whore.
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>A Dream Of A Dream Of Spring
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>>82525031
>large ass
rude
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>>82524994
That's probably his plan, he knows he can never live up to the expectations so he's going to delay everything for as long as he can, and let Sanderson finish it once he's done living his rich as fuck life. Fans technically get closure regardless of quality, he gets to preserve his legacy.
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>>82525018
>implyig that autist Preston or somebody else will finish the asoiaf books
How retard are you again, sperg autist
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Who will be Gurm's Cristopher Tolkien?
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>>82521847

>he thinks TWOW will be released
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What did they mean by this?
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>>82525136

>you will never give her a fresh stark creampie
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>>82521348
>things that will never be released edition
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>>82525110
>"When you play GRRM's A Game Of Thrones, you win or you die."
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>>82525272
sansa loooks nice and drug-free there
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>>82525301
Talisa is not for lewd
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>>82521348
Did GRRM actually finished Winds of Winter or people just memeing?
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>>82524501
That would be cool.
If Arya finds Nymeria in the same episode she kills the Freys that would be a good episode to have A Time for Wolves as the title.
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>>82525269
Neil Gaiman.
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WHY WON'T HE STOP EATING AND START WRITING
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SNIFFFFF

Oh yes Khaleesi... quite pungent indeed...
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>>82521348

>Game of thrones is literally just a mash of Dune and Wheel of time

Really makes you think
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>>82525136
>BRRRAAAAAPPP~
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>>82525226
>Preston
>Not a sell out
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>>82525182
Sanderson doesn't even like asoiaf, though. He said he didn't read past A Game of Thrones. It won't be Sanderson that finishes it.
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Question for the elite Game of Thrones theorist Preston Jacobs:

How many of the spinoffs will take place in the 1000 worlds universe? Who do you think they will get to play Tuf?
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>>82526756
Does he like money though?
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>>82527188
His religion would prevent him from writing it. He's not into violence, tits or worlds made of pussy
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>>82525295
There are two teams, one in Spain and one in Ireland (I believe).

They shoot at the simultaneously, it's costly but saves a lot of time I imagine.
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>>82527188
Maybe so, but I suspect he loves writing more. I don't think writing asoiaf would align well with his tastes or principles, despite the stacks of cash. Could have said "he hates asoiaf," given how he described the visceral reaction he had to it, but he was being diplomatic and polite to another writer.
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>>82521446
because then you'd have 3 money.
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Maario Naharis
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>>82526713
> Preston shouldn't bring poor Carmine under his benevolent wing
>mirror Preston shouldn't spread to and consume all sources and manner of ASOIAF discourse LIKE THE INK AND BEAK OF THE KRAKEN
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>>82500659
WW origins should never have been briefly showed whatever your mind makes up about their purpose is always going to be more interesting. As soon as it's told to you, they lose all mystery and intrigue, when I first started watching (I hadn't read the books at this point) I thought they were super interesting because they're the very first plot point and there is barely any information about them for two seasons. characters don't even get to say their full name without being interrupted and up until the end of season 2 we're sat there like "who the fuck are these guys?"
Then it's like

>lol the children made them 2 fite the men now they're evil haha

I loved the concept that the Night's Watch were the only ones who knew and that all the other houses didn't give enough of a shit to even send a raven with a response to their request, and now when we have a bastard who deserted the NW be declared King in Da Norf suddenly everyone agrees they exist for some reason

ALSO what bothers me is how the wights went from being spooky lumbering zombies to generic le skeletons who make wierd animals noises and are really easy to kill all of a sudden despite being established that fire is the only thing that stops them. When Old Nan tells Bran the story of the Long Night I always imagined castles and towns being besieged by a slow moving resilient menace using whatever weapons they picked up, lol no skellingtons

tl;dr

>mysterious background enemy becomes boring cartoon villain with too much exposition
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>>82527727
I'm still confused on the differences between the show and the books. Are the White Walkers in the show the same as the Others/WW in the books? Are the Wights? Are the Others/WW in the show all supposed to be like the horned Nights King guy?
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>>82527927
Others -> White Walkers
Wights -> Wights/Zombies
No, they're not supposed to look like that.
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>>82522262

>no greatjon fighting frey fucking shits
>no qt dacey mormont getting an axe in the gut
>no smalljon racing for his sword
>no wendel manderly taking an arrow in the mouth

trash
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>>82528039
So do you think we are going to see more Others/WW in the show that look more like the ice elf things that are described in the books?
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>>82527727
Shitcan that blasphemy, son, you in the House of Harryhausen.
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>>82521348
When will this thread transition to /wcg/ wild cards general like GRRM has?
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>>82528568
When Wild Cards finally premieres. This is /tv/, not /lit/, no matter what bookcucks say
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>>82528087
fuck no niqqa. why would we?
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With all of his fat how much of GRRMs dick to you think is even visible?
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>>82528701
Because anon said the Others/WW aren't supposed to look like the NK in the show.
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>>82529106
he hasn't seen it since the 70s.
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>>82529106
10 inches.
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>mfw the Mario naharis spammer doesn't even get replies anymore

SAD!
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has television ever killed a book series before?
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Inknbeak
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>>82525018
>Wanting to finish another mans Book
cuck
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>>82521484
>>82524704
If you want to discuss that shit, why not make a thread about it?
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>>82529756
> Preston fucks his wife missionary with solid, constant eye contact and recites his fanfic about Sweetrobin, Secret Mirror Bran
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>>82528042
>no greatjon
>no dacey
>no smalljon

absolutely disgusting
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>>82522262
>No Talisa
2/10
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>>82525542
>Did GRRM actually finished Winds of Winter
u 'avin a giggle, m8?
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>>82529939
>books
>Talisa
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Lads yesterday I asked for recommendations on YouTube channels about ASOIAF but no one replied.
I'm looking for high quality discussion and TVfaggotry to be kept a minimum
I love Preston, respect history of westeros, and even subscribed to red team review this week but I wanted more stuff to listen in the background while I work
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>>82529929

Whatever do you mean? That I am a superior, intelligent book-reader instead of a mouth-breathing television viewer? Are you offended by my preference on seeing content designed from literature rather than motion pictures? Ugh, you vermin disgust me, God should never have invented the television!
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>>82530078
Here's a recommendation: don't watch youtube videos.
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>>82529894
> Prestonwife is a natural editor and she edits out all of the George Lucas
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>>82530040
>>books
>>>/lit/
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>>82530113
Where else you get in depht analysis?
I remember listening to WiC.net podcast back in the day and it was absolute shit
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If someone went back in time to the early 90s and told gurm that GOT would take the rest of his life to complete and that he would never write anything else and that his writing would be overshadowed by a successful adaptation, but that it would make him rich, would he still write it?
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>>82530236
Yes, especially back then.
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>>82522262
Why are there Bolton sigils but no Tully sigils?

Also, where's Waldo?
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artist here

which character(s) would you like to see (sfw) fanart of? Im guessing chars like dany and jon snow are overdone
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>>82530386
Show me your rendition of victarion greyjoy
Or Jon connington
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>>82530386
arya as cat of the canals, please
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>>82530386
Jon and Arianne

Could've worked in an AU or even now in canon to be honest
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>>82530293

But I mean, he's talked before about stuff that he wants to write that isn't ASOIAF but it's pretty obvious that he's never going to write anything else ever and he probably isn't even going to complete that. I never took George for a particularly materialistic dude.
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>>82530214
>Where else you get in depht analysis?
From reading the books and not being retarded.
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>>82530386
Olenna. NSFW would be better, though.
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>>82530459
Well aren't you a darling
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>>82530386
Pretty Pia, Lollys, and Penny having a good time together. ;_;
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>>82530386
Howland Reed / or any other crannogman fighter.
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>>82530078
The Order of the Green Hand tries to mimic Preston.
Most of their theories are far-fetched, but their Littlefinger series is Preston tier.
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When will GRRM release TWOW & ADOS to our local bookstore?
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>>82530457
George grew up in a shithole and was never lucky in love. When he made it big, he indulged in all of his boyhood fantasies.
> Robby the Robot, hehehehe
I'll bet in the nineties, right after Beauty and the Beast, he thought he was going to die and no one would find him remarkable and that he would fade into obscurity. He'd make that deal and has.
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>>82530386
The Weeper
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>>82530742
NEVER EVER. He's cashed in on ASOIAF and is now working mostly on Wild Cards so he can get the most of that tv money. He doesn't care about ASOIAF anymore. He got his.
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>>82530078
Got academy
No, really.
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>>82530386
Talisa
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>>82530386
Myranda Royce
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>>82530214
>Where else you get in depht analysis
in your head while you read the books
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>>82530386
Hot Pie.
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>>82530078

The Dragon Demands is pretty good if you feel like listening to an obese man repetitively criticize D&D
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>>82532322
This.
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GRRM is a much better editor than a writer. Especially his work in collaboration with Dozois. Dangerous women, Old Venus, Old Mars.
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>>82527470
>Winter is Coming
>Super Mario Odyssey releases in the winter

Is there a connection here?
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the books are never going to come out now. the fatass is apparently going to be co producer now for all four spin off series. think how long the tv show took from start to finish. how many years.

imagine the time now for four spin of series and the fat ass will have to now dedicate a shit load of his time to it.

the books are never going to happen and he'll just spend his days working on the spin offs and expanding the story without ending it.

winds of winter and a dream of spring is a pipe dream and will be completed by a different author after he dies.
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>>82530386
Bran
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>>82532990
This
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>>82533453
I don't think they're doing all four I think they're choosing between four different ideas.. right
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I predict the spinoffs are going to get really bad ratings
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>>82521348
reminder the long night happened before the first war with the walkers and history has blended the two together
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>>82533789
This. George has sold us out for normies who won't care about Targ shit, dunk and egg shit or even the plebiest of all asoiaf spinoff material: roberts rebellion. They just want their Jonny snu and YAS QUEEN SLAY. just look at all th normies on social media who were threatening to quit when jon died.
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>>82530078
Secrets of the Citadel

rest are garbage
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>>82534037
>dunk and egg
Would love more Hedge Knight graphic novels. Been wanting that for years.
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>>82530386
anything of euron
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>>82533789

Depends how much sex and rape they have. The only reason GoT has gotten away with heavily, and sometimes outright removing, reducing such scenes and kept it's viewer base is because we are invested in the few compelling characters and what the ending will be.

These new shows? Will be about new plots and characters we don't (yet) care about, or characters we already know the fates of. The only way to keep me invested for the first few seasons will be to lure me in by my penis and subdued sado-masichistic tendencies.
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>>82530386
Bloodraven

young albino qt vers. preferably
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>>82530078
Game of Theories
The last harpy
Ideasoficeandfire

Got lore is not that good doe
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>start watching s6 for the first time in my life
>cock jokes at least twice every episode
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>>82524997
The protagonist's sister
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I'm not ashamed to admit I'm probably just going to find the best ASOIAF fanfic out there that finishes the series and treat that as canon. I have my eye on a good one that's longer than the actual books will be.
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I bet GRRM thinks he can't die before he finishes the series
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Will Cersei allow refugees fleeing the war/winter to take refuge in King's Landing?
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>>82534402
Had better have jonerys or jonarya, George is going for one or the other
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>>82534472
I think his mind is deteriorating

Like how the fuck is a morbidly obese 70-year old going to write cutting edge fiction?

The series is done
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mfw every time i read all the retards saying "but just give him time. the books will come. he doesnt owe us anything the books will come"
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He should have someone ghost write it while he's still alive.
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>>82533902
Explain.
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>>82534614

The face of a girl who knows that if the old fat man wants it, she is going to be sharing his bed that night. You can see the fearful resignation in her eyes, and a twinkle of hope that he will be too busy at the buffet table and she can slip away.
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>He never was really rich or successful until GoT hit it big which made the books extremly hot sellers (when before few had heard of them).

He was successful before the show, just not on the same level. He was still one the biggest fantasy writers.
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>>82521613

>>82534923
Meant to link that.
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>>82533773
And what are those 4 different ideas?
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>>82534923
>He was still one of the fattest fantasy writers.
Fixed that for you.
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>>82534603
Arya is gonna die foreshadowed in book one
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>>82533773
>>82534037
>>82534037
I think HBO is forgetting that nobody really cared about game of thrones until after the red wedding. and it became a mega hit when they found a character to latch on to. the universe by itself isnt what people are interested in, theyre interested in specific characters. asking all those people to start watching a show with characters they dont care about is a stretch, when most of these people are too lazy and/or stupid to remember anyones name except jon and khaleesi.
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>>82521348
Reminder that we still don't know what the point was of the Feast for Crows prologue. Thousands of pages and over a decade later and we still don't know what's important about that key.
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>>82535142
>Feast for Crows was released 12 years ago
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>>82530428
>>82530439
>>82530446
>>82530466
>>82530561
>>82530670
>>82531063
>>82531205
>>82531419
>>82532322
>>82532753
>>82532990
>>82533511
>>82534138
>>82534164

thanks anons, really appreciate the suggestions. Seems like there is a real demand for characters that are not featured as much /only mentioned in passing on the show/ entirely in the books
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>>82535142
Wasn't it implied he wanted to steal something of Marwin's? A glass candle?
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>>82534603
Couldn't tell you. The author actually adjusted the canon a bit by making Myrcella and Tommen older, they're both major POV characters in it.
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braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap
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>>82535069
Or will she?

George had an idea of a grown up Arya in Braavos, why have that idea if he knew she was gonna die since the 90s?
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What excuse will the writers have for Arya not teleporting into King's Landing and killing Cersei in the first episode?
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>>82535663
She hears about Jon taking Winterfell
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>>82535663
She only kills white men.
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Someone link the Cersei/Tommen blackwater fanfic. You know the one I'm talking about.
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>>82534402
Share it with us, Anon
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>>82535461
I think he was after a book on dragons. One is mentioned in Dance as being held secure in the Citadel. They probably received a dragon egg from Euron in exchange for killing Balon, and want to hatch it or do something with it.
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WHERE MY NIGGA VICTORIAN!?
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>>82535920
he dead bruh
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>>82535142
Can I get a run down of that chapter
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>>82530386
Garlan motherfucking Tyrell nigger. I don't expect you to do it any time soon, but one day someone will have to do him justice.
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>>82534081
>mfw the fat motherfucker planned from 6 to 12 novels about dunk and egg

the guy can barely keep his shit together with a book we've been waiting for half a decade. Is he genuinely oblivious or just a jackass?
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cant wait to read grrms blogpost about how the book isn't coming out before season 7
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>>82535069
Arya dying was guaranteed as soon as her arc became a revenge arc. It's an old trope.
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>>82535746
http://archiveofourown.org/series/281919

It's fairly recent, the second part is still being worked on, part one is complete. Characterization is pretty good and the author is competent. Part one is almost twice the length of GoT. This is technically an canon divergence, but only barely and all the major event up until the start of this proceed the same way they do in the book.

My personal favorite is one that's a complete divergence, about Rhaegar winning, though I personally hate the Targaryens
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>>82535142
yeah nigger what the fuck was that all about. It looked like we were getting somewhere with Sam's chapters, but then they suddenly stopped showing up.

>>82535999
long story short, this guy named pate gets convinced from a guy named the alchemist (who then steals his identity) to give him a key that opens up any door in the citadel, and then he gets killed by the alchemist.
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>>82525136
>Robb literally died for a piece of average ass
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>>82536161
>it's Lannister POV and heavy on briennexjaime

Put it in the trash
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>>82535097

Funny because that's when the series went downhill.
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>>82536227
Also the Alchemist is Jaqen H'ghar
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>>82536161
Sorry Anon I don't know how to read that page
It's worse than Twitter
Is there a PDF?
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>>82537500
Wait anon I gonna post you some links.

Here's the link
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You know those people surrounded by the campfire Bran, Meera, Jojen and Hodor saw when they camped in the tower during the thunderstorm? Benjen was with them. I'm 100% certain.
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How do you think D&D's new complete OC will do compared to last season?
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>>82538615
Elaborate, please.
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>>82538615
Elaborate
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>>82538717

Bran's last chapter in the first part of ASOS the UK edition. I just re-read that and I kept thinking "HOLY SHIT! What if it is Benjen, Bran is seeing when he's warging into Summer to scope out the area around the tower". The questions is now what the hell were those people doing there.
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>>82539095
>What if
Oh so there's no actual theory or evidence
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>>82539183

It could still be a possibility though, definitely curious on who those people were and what they were up too during the night of the thunderstorm.

Has anyone asked George about this?
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>>82530078
Ravor rants
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Bradamante is playing you like a fiddle.
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>>82539238
Wasn't it just Jon and the Wildlings?
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>>82539349

he touched my hand in the library today
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>>82539496

Bradamante is a gentleman, he would never rape a girl like that.
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>>82539563
its not a rape, its just our book thing
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>>82535069
What part?
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>>82536275
I just skip the Brienne chapters again like in the actual books
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>>82521613
this breaks my heart but you're probably right anon
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>>82535738
I also wish to see this fanfic.
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>>82539450

Wouldn't they have been too far north of the wall? Bran mentioned in that chapter they were still pretty south.
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>>82539982
When they were in Queenscrown? They were just south of the wall there. That was when the Wildlings turned on Jon and he ran back to the wall.
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Preston should finish the damn books already.
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>>82534614
She looks like a Barbie Doll that was put in the oven.
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>page 8
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What's the general consensus on Preston theories?

I like a lot of his Dorne stuff, but the telepathy/dream manipultion/messages from the moon stuff doesn't sell me
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>>82542186
I know this gets overused, but he's definitely autistic.
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>>82542489
He's obsessive, sure, but Preston is a pretty normal guy all things considered. His communication skills are way too high for autism
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At what point can I stop reading Dany chapters?
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>>82542695
You don't need to read any Dany chapters before Storm
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>>82542608
He's a beta white male for having am asian wife
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>>82542695

After ASOS. It really does feel like Martin has fuck all clue where her story was going to head after she settled in the slaving cities and decided to rule Meereen.
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>>82542186
GoT would be more interesting if some of them were correct.
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>>82543285
Sometimes, but I think a lot of the theories about glass candles and dream manipulation make things much less interesting. If you take everything Preston says as fact, the whole story is just a small handful of characters like Bloodraven and Euron controlling people's minds
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>>82521613
Do you realize how much a person slows down not only mentally but physically from old age? Hell, I am 50 and I am no where near as energetic as I was 20 years ago. GRRM is almost 70?? He will never finish the books and frankly, I don't think he gives a fuck anymore. But, a ghost-writer can and will finish the series. You can count on that.
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Hello i am renowed writer grrm martin feel free to ask me anything reddit
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>>82526756
Sanderson, quite honestly, sucks as a writer. I heard about this guy from several associates and decided to read his works. I could not finish any of them. No wonder he doesn't like GRRM's books...he is a talent-less hack. Sorry if the truth hurts, but so be it.
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>>82543720
I don't know why you're apologizing to me as I'm not Brandon Sanderson, but have a reply for your counter, anon.
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>>82543779
I made a shitty ms paint drawing of Henry Cavell as Bobby B.
Lost it like 4 harddrive crashes ago though.
Also, big salsa.
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>>82543779
holy shit the boat story, that must be the best behind-the-scenes story in all the yeas this show has been on
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>>82543585
GRRM said very specifically that he's against anyone else continuing his series for him. He's against fan fiction because he considers it a poor exercise in creativity.

That doesn't mean that he couldn't have someone else finish it, but it seems very unlikely to say the least.... I think he'll just basically consider the HBO ending canon and feel comforted by that enough not to finish and retire (while all along stringing us along like the books are still being produced and almost finished).
>>
WHO SENT THE CATSPAW TO KILL BRAN?
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>>82529756
GRRM really ought to just have Preston Jacobs finish the book. It's become pretty clear GRRM doesn't give a shit and would only give a half-hearted effort if he finished it himself.
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>>82534037
>>82534081
>>82536118
Fucking pisses me off that he's gonna die before he completes the Dunk & Egg stories. I've given up on ASOIAF, but D&E is comfy as fuck.

I also love how GRRM trolled fans by having Faegon emulate Egg by having a pseudo-Dunk in the form of Duck (Rolly Duckfield).
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>>82521613
>when before few had heard of them

ASOIAF wasn't a huge worldwide phenomenon until the show, sure, but they were not obscure books. Feast was the #1 NYT bestseller upon release in 2002.
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>>82544234
>he considers it a poor exercise in creativity.

That and people not understanding his characters and feeling like they have a right to credit if the author ends up doing a similar thing.
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>>82544562
I'm old enough to remember when A Game of Thrones was published in 1996. I just entered 5th grade and while amongst sci-fi/fantasy fans appreciated it (GRRM had already earned cred in that genre), casuals didn't care for it that much compared to today.
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>>82535311
>mfw I was in my freshman year of undergrad when Feast was released
And then A Dance of Dragons was released by my final year of law school...
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>>82530078
>Hey Youtubers, It's Charlie
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>>82545586
>high fives all around
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>>82545586
>Secrets
do bookreaders really like this channel?
it's so surface level and tin foil-y on the theories
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>>82546063
>secrets
dunnowhy that's there. my comment is referring to that "charlie" fuck
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>>82542695
The only good/important dany chapters are the ones in AGOT, the rest dont matter at all, just skip them and assume shes waiting backstage until her dragons grow to make an appearance in westeros
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>>82544439
BLOODRAVEN
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>>82544439
CATELYN
SHE WANTED TO GET RID OF THAT SHITTY KID
ONLY SHE FORGOT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE THE ROOM
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>>82546633
THE MAN EVEN TOLD HER SHE WASNT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE
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Wyverns
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>>82547323
They're dragons breh
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>>82546633
BRAN IS CATELYNS FAVORITE BB, STAY MAD
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>>82548070
>retarded person whose every action in the story is retarded, happens to have a retarded opinion
seems about right.
>>
>>82548219
>>82548219
>patrician person who happens to be /ourgirl/ and has the most patrician chapters, happens to have a patrician opinion
fyp budddy :^)
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What are decent got/asoiaf podcasts?
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>>82530078
The Normies is the premiere GoT related channel. Easily the best direct to YouTube television show.
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>>82548370
I don't know but definitely not Game of Owns
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>>82548490
Yeah, they came up at the top of a google search, and I ignored them out of principle.
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>>82548370
i used to listen to a bunch but i deleted them all after season 5 and now i cant remember any of them
i hate joanna robinson's though, her commentary is okay-ish except for whenever she starts going off about jon or sansa, but the showfag guy she podcasts with is painful
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>>82521348
>ADOS release date & number of pages.
When its comun out
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>>82549662
in the year 82521348
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>>82549697
If man is still alive.
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>>82521348
A Dream of an Ending
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>>82543585
>, I am 50
Go to bed grandpa
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>>82521348
>ADOS release date & number of pages.

>I'm glad to announce I have 168 pages written for ADOS.
>In other news, I've cancelled TWOW, and ADOS will be the next book, first of the last 4 of the series. t.GRRM
>>
>>82543779
Is she the dumbest in this series?

>Tyrion says mean things to her obviously so she can leave and go somewhere safer like he has been suggesting for the longest
>WAAAAH HE HATES ME, I'M GOING TO LIE ABOUT HIM AND GET HIM KILLED AND SLEEP WITH HIS DAD
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>>82525018
I want to fuck preston virgin asshole
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>>82526885
none

Normies dont dont care bout that
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>>82544234
At least I can agree with the fat bastard on that account
>>
>>82550047
Sansa has done wayyyyyyyy more retarded shit.
>>
>>82544234
Hey you know what else is a poor exercise in creativity, GRRM?
NOT WRITING AN ENDING TO YOUR FUCKING BOOK SERIES.
>>
>>82521613

Christopher Tolkien is 92 and still working on releasing various uncompleted books by his father
>>
>>82550353
Sansas dumb shit was when she was a young girl, the whore on the other hand was just an uneducated foreign fuckwit who didn't know what was good for her and got herself killed over dwarf dick
>>
>>82550047
How is this dumb? Tywin is the most feared man in Westeros, and Tyrion's escape no one could have predicted.
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>>82550464
she should have left much earlier, like Tryrion had been begging her to do, but she took offense muh feels kept her there only to be heartbroken and then trying to kill him out of spite.
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>>82550504
Its vindictive, sure, but plenty of characters in the series are vindictive. Its not stupid, and actually rather effective. The only thing that kept Tyrion alive was being rescued by the third ( and then second) most powerful person in King's Landing, and literally the only one who would possible be immune from Cersei or Tywin wrath. Was, but for the fluke, an exceedingly safe bet.

She's mean, yeah, but not dumb. Tyrion brining her to court in the first place and creating the situation was a far stupider move then staying.
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>>82550563
She had a house, servants, and wealth set up for her across the narrow sea. Everything Tyrion did was to protect her and she took it the wrong way and still ended up dead. Sounds pretty stupid to me, she isnt as smart as someone like Cersei, this wasnt all part of some master plan she conceived. It was pure emotion and misplaced anger
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>>82550678
Most motivations are based on emotion, regardless of if they are well placed or not. What makes choices intelligent or not is the effectiveness of the result. Her hatred of Tyrion is no more trivial then Littlefingers obsession, or Frey's hurt pride, or Roose's or Twin's lust for power. None of them are fools. She didn't want the house.
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>>82550764
But what was her end goal? At least the others know exactly what they want. She was just mad at Tyrion because he said mean things. She should have saved herself while she could, she was going to die in Kings Landing either way. Any of the other smarter and more manipulative characters would have left and regrouped while they could
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>>82550823
Again, she was screwing the most powerful man this side of the Narrow sea, and had money (the gold chains tyrion strangles her with are a gift and a clear callback to his gift previously)

She traded one john for another, and this one was actually far better off.
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>>82550410
>Sansas dumb shit was when she was a young girl
stop this meme.
sansa's still dumb as shit.

Myranda is running circles around her, Sansa's telling her everything she needs to know and she doesn't even realize it.
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Maester Luigi
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>>82551346
Daisy Mormont
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>>82551250
PORCELAIN
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>>82550896
Not that anon, but you're shilling this dumb whore hard right now. They wanted to kill her! She knew this, Tyrion kept telling her over and over and over again. She had a chance to leave over and over and over again, but she didn't. Tyrion was blatantly desperate for her to leave so that she doesn't end up fucking dead. Yet she totally turned on him because he said mean words. Her end game was death regardless because she sided with the people that wanted her dead (his family). They most likely would've killed her despite her helping him lose the trial because they have no use for her.

Her decisions were LITERALLY:

1. Stay in King's Landing and die
2. Leave King's Landing or live safe

She chose 1 because she's an idiot driven solely by emotion. Stop shilling this dumb bitch, moron.
>>
>>82551582
TO
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>>82551721
SHIT
>>
>>82551720
>Her end game was death regardless because she sided with the people that wanted her dead (his family). They most likely would've killed her despite her helping him lose the trial because they have no use for her.

...Huh, yes they had a use for her, fucking her. That's what Tywin was doing that night when Tyrion killed her. Fucking her.

She is a whore, that's the use people have for whores, they fuck them.
>>
>>82551720
Meh, I just hate Tyrion. Also Tywin would probably not kill her, and Cersei was either getting shipped back to Casterly Rock or be berated into marrying Loras and shipped to High Garden. Either was she was on the outs, the only thing that changed that was Tywins death. Jamie wouldn't give a shit about Shae.
>>
>>82551785
You think Cersei actually would've wanted her around fucking her dad? Do you actually think Tywin himself really wanted to fuck her multiple times? He most likely just wanted 1 night and then let get her beheaded or killed in her sleep. If not him, then definitely Cersei.
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>>82551868
Tywin refused to kill Tysha, even in the show, despite her being a legitimate threat to his dynasty. Shae's a literal nobody. He's not in the habit of killing whores.
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>>82551830
>Meh, I just hate Tyrion
Argument invalid. You're debating on pure emotion just like Shae. No wonder you like her.
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>>82521348
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>>82551933
That was the point of my post. I don't like her, or hate her, despite your claim of shilling. I don't like tyrion, in part because of the various stupid things he does, like I outlined.
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>>82551868
You think Tywin gives a single fuck what Cersei wants?

and
>Do you actually think Tywin himself really wanted to fuck her multiple times? He most likely just wanted 1 night and then let get her beheaded or killed in her sleep.

You do realize Tyrion had been in a dungeon for days/weeks right?
You think that Tywin was fucking Shae the exact night Tyrion escaped and ONLY that one night, just by coincidence?

Tyrion thinks Shae was hot/qt as fuck. Tywin saw her at the trial, thought she was hot/qt as fuck and has been fucking her ever since.
>>
The problem with Shae in the show is they decided to rewrite her to actually be in love with Tyrion but then left her end fate the same as the book. In the original story she never actually cared about Tyrion, she just liked the lifestyle he kept her in so she had no problem selling him out at the trial.
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>>82527727

Well we know that WW takes male children from incest man. What they do after that is unknown. I'd rather the kids be raised then killed to make wrights, rather than 'touch, now you're one of our species'. WW I assumed were meant to be a sort of counterpart to CotF, basically being each gods magical sentient creature.
>>
Is Gendry the last hope for House Baratheon?
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>>82539746
when she runs away from her sewing class and goes and finds jon. He tells her to go back to class or she'll get forced to sew all winter long and when the spring thaw came all they would find was a small frozen body with a needle in its hand
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>>82552997
;_;
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>>82538645
even worse
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>>82534389
this
>i have a use for you
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>>82526713
>*audibly suppresses power level*
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>>82524997
my pegging partner
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Jonsa
Gendrick
R'hllelly
JaqMelly
Piendry
Torienne
WalCat
Catyrion
Robbeon
Joffsay
Breera
Thormelly
Robbgery
JaqAry
Gendrya
Waifjaq
Kindole
Jaimure
Olefish
Stannos
RobbRos
Robbjey
Kindlypair
Tynny
Tyrienne
Jorleesi
MissTy
Tyleesi
Renwun
MissGrey
Branerys
Brodor
Meeosh
Robbcella
LittleCat
NightCat
Nightsei
Nightleesi
Jaimsa
Jaimleesi
Saleesi
Berheart
Berthor
Brojen
Selmolenna
Ricyanna
Ricreen
Melvara
Catlienne
Tybron
Jaibron
Jaimure
Catmance
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>>82552894
He ded
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>>82552526
How did they show her as actually loving him? Aren't we just meant to assume it's an act? Or I might be forgetting something idk
>>
>>82554580
She becomes jealous of Sansa, and is relieved when she notices she is still a virgin. Sure, it could just be threatening, but she admits to loving sansa in a sisterly way, or her being upset is more the cause of her feelings for Tyrion then an upstart wife. Moreover, whores generally wouldn't care too much about wives, and shae in the books explicitly states she DOESN'T care.
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>>82554639
Ah fair enough. I guess it could still be loosely interpreted as an elaborate act, but there definitely is unnecessary confusion.
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>>82552526
Wasn't Shae just Tywin's spy from the start anyway? The way he told Tyrion to not bring whores to KL was the best way to ensure he would, after all...
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>>82525759
She already killed the Freys, duder.
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>>82548070
>>82548282
this tbqh
and branelyn is /ourship/
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>>82556526
/ourship/ is Bransei
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>>82556558
I was under the impression that incest was necessary.
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>>82556596
Bran is Cersei's son.
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>>82556668
Who's the father?
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>>82556738
Victarion
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>>82556738
Euron Greyjoy
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>>82556749
>>82556779
How are irontards capable of producing such a tully fucking shit?
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>>82556844
Because Greyjoys are about as retarded as Tullys.
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>>82556875
Why does everyone act like all the Tullys are dumb?
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Anyway...

Because of the popularity of Roose Bolton posting. I present the:

Roose Bolton Thread
>>82557043

Anyway...

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>>82526630
I'd sure like to find her squatting
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>>82555490
Makes sense, although I'm not sure Tywin would hire a spy on his children just given how much pride he puts in the Lannister name.
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>>82525136
> Robb betrayed the North for this commonfolk basic bitch ass instead of having a qt Frey wife
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