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Hollywood Is Losing the Battle Against Online Trolls

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-is-losing-battle-online-trolls-992582
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>>81733404
4chan biopic when
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WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR MOVIE STUDIOS??
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>>81733422
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>>81733404
4chan is a place for peaceful people
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>>81733404
We did it, /b/!
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>Hollywood is losing the battle against the internet/controlling the narrative/opposing opinions/trolls
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How come denying the holocast is illegal but denying the Armenian genocide is fine?
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>>81733520
Go back, now.
>>>/b/
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>>81733539
They obviously are winning that battle
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>>81733404

Hollywood is losing to people gaming the system better than them.
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>>81733571
Do you live in Turkrochistan?
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>>81733571
why must we never forget the holocaust but ignore Rwanda?
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>>81733594

they're doing that because people roll in and fill up their comment section with counter opinions to the pieces they write so of course they're going to remove comments.
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>>81733404
>The online campaign against The Promise appears to have originated on sites like Incisozluk, a Turkish version of 4chan
I wonder if Cenk posts there
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>>81733571
Hyes don't seem to have had the same success lobbying as Jews, although there are some sovereign nations in which it's illegal to deny the Armenian genocide.
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>>81733404
What a troll is: Someone who has no horse in the game and is just saying things to piss people off.

What the media says a troll is: Anyone who disagrees.
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>>81733404
>trollface
Don't they know a dead meme when they see one?
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>>81733577
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Is there actually a website to discuss films besides /tv/ since they closed out the comment section on imdb.
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>>81733640
He will, anon. He will.
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>>81733640
>a _____ version of 4chan
it's called a fucking imageboard, why can't these "journalists" use Wikipedia before they write their drivel?
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>>81733636
What's the point of even having an Internet if it becomes a shitty one-way medium like newspaper or television?
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>>81733653
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Sting.ogg
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>>81733640
>>81733698
What version of 4chan is 4chan?
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>>81733594
ban goy speech on the internets!
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>>81733704

because of the size of the internet, new sites will always appear that increase user feedback, and sites that get rid of it will turn into corporate backed mouth pieces, which all of those comments in that pic have become.
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Translation: People dont like being mislead and marketing is becoming really hard.
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>>81733746
this is how much you suck
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>>81733736
The American version of 2chan.
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>people downvote things they dislike
>such as bad, pandering movies
>WHOA, THIS IS ANODDAH SHOWAH
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>>81733571
The truth doesn't need laws to protect it.
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It's trashy how they compared Reddit's smear campaign against the Ghostbusters movie to the Armenian genocide
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>>81733571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1rL_kbO_w
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>>81733824
>people are organising to give bad ratings to movies they haven't seen

Yeah, it would such a loss if Turkish government shills couldn't silence a film about Armenian genocide. Muh freeze peach is hurt! ;_;
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>>81733858
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>81733571
Or why 100'000'000 dead directly due to Communism is brushed aside, or excused as Capitalisms fault thanks to insane mental gymnastics.
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Based turks fighting jew propaganda.
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>>81733736
Who is this Four-Chan?
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>>81733884
you are a fucking Turk aren't you
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>>81733404
>Nuke the whales

Wut?
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>>81733678
Uh don't you mean reddit?
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>>81733892
>when you're a /pol/tard who hates Jews so much you swing the pendulum far enough that you love Muslims
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>It had taken years — and the passionate support of Kirk Kerkorian, who [...]
>Kirk Kerkorian
>Kerkorian
>Kerk
>Kek
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>>81733404
This would matter if people actually gave a shit about iMDB's ratings.
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>>81733594
I'll never forget that NPR cut off their comments section the day before they published an article literally and seriously calling for white people to go extinct to save the environment

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/479349760/should-we-be-having-kids-in-the-age-of-climate-change

Flip through that if you want, it's fucking amazing. They're not even giving an even handed "everyone should stop having kids to prevent overpopulation," the Professor of Bioethics specifically calls for Europe and North America to be depopulated to make room for African climate refugees who in turn will consume less resources and produce less pollution than the previous inhabitants did
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>>81733404
>Their opinion isn't valid because they disagree with our political narrative.

>>81733944
Naa, he's just a smelly mudslim
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>>81733824
t. urk
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>>81733944
There would be literally nothing wrong with Muslims if they stayed in their designated corner of the Earth instead of swarming like rats into civilized countries.
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>>81733636
No a lot of these places are doing it because they don't like dissenting viewpoints.
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>>81733619
Fucking kek, you obviously don't live in Canada. We had one of our nationals over there - Romeo Dallaire - as a UN general. Now it is mandatory curriculum in elementary school for teachers to whine on about muh Rwandans
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>>81733404
>Hollywood losing the battle against other opinions
>resort to calling out da haterz on Netflix through blog sites ran by teenaged girls
Control freak Jews.
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>>81734038
The same could be said about the Jews.
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>>81733571
Turks don't own that many banks or media corporations my man
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>>81733938
Simpsons reference (the one where Lisa has a crush on Nelson)
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>Kirk Kerkorian
kek
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>>81733944
Do you have any idea how many fucking roaches infest /pol/? It's insane.
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>>81733404
>not mentioning that it was probably a bunch of turkroaches who gave the armenian genocide movie a bad rating
>suddenly starts bitching about 4chan and reddit

written by a woman of course

and remember when /tv/ denied that Netflix changed their rating because amy schumer? There are so many articles about it now. They are all triggered to see bad ratings
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>>81734038
Their religion enslaves over a billion people to its totalitarian insanity. Just think of the potential scholars and scientists from the Middle-East who never got to benefit Humanity because Islam tolerates no dissent
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>>81733938
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>>81734110
It was mentioned though
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>>81734000
>African refugees consume less resources that white, Europeans
I just had a spit take reading that. Thanks for the giggle.
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>>81734000
So... they gave an entire intellectual platform to one guy's bizarre racial humiliation fetish? He even says he married a Turkish woman because Turkey produces less carbon per capita than European countries as if carbon emissions are fucking genetically heritable
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>>81734000
It's going to happen anyway. People aren't having kids in Europe and North America and Africans and people in SEA breed like crazy.
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>>81734142
Wow Japan is really stepping up its whaling industry
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>Liberals STILL don't understand that the word "Troll" does not mean "person expressing a divergent/dissenting opinion".

How little shit changes in ten fucking years.
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>>81734235
Armenian genocide deniers have a pretty retarded opinion though
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>>81733404
Moslems truly are the worst, when are they just going to suck it up and accept that their filthy heathen selves genocided a bunch of Armenians?
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>>81734180
It's mathematically true. Since Germany has CO2 emissions of 9.2 tons per capita and Syria has CO2 emissions of 1.9 tons per capita, Germany could cut their greenhouse gas emissions by 75% simply by replacing their entire population with Syrians.
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>>81734089
You mean Armenians, right? The Armenian genocide was perpetrated by the Ottoman Empire, the Armenians were the victims.
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>>81734335
>Germany could cut their greenhouse gas emissions by 75% simply by replacing their entire population with Syrians.
Except it wouldn't. The actual amount each individual uses gets dwarfed by the amount from industry. The industry would still be there, even if you replaced the population with people that supposedly use less.
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>>81734335
Why are Germans so gassy?
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>>81734199
>people in SEA
Wrong.

More than 50% of global births happen on one continent right now and this ratio is going to continue to increase for the rest of the century.
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>>81734434
Who should I believe, Mr. Random Internet Guy or the Johns Hopkins professor whose devoted his entire educational life to this subject?
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>>81734335
How can you be so wrong in just 2 sentences
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>>81734558
(((John Hopkins))) (((Travis N. Rieder)))
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>>81734558
>blogs occasionally at The Huffington Post
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> make a movie about a controversial historical event at you know millions of people worldwide deny ever happened
> be surprised when those millions of people don't appreciate it

I also love how the article makes sure to point out that it's young men doing it.

'You know the real problem is men, maybe we should like ban men from the internet or something, I dunno...'

They don't acknowledge that it's young MUSLIM men even though it obviously is.
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>>81734558
He's wrong because it's not that Germans are genetically disposed to producing more CO2. Rather, Germans produce more CO2 because they've got a functional 21st century society where Syrians don't. Unless you plan on removing all the cars and factories along with the Germans when you replace them with Syrians the emissions won't go down.
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>>81733882
I don't give a flying fuck about turks and their bullshit, but that logic is faulty. You can take that one marginal case and use it to censor fucking everything. People aren't obligated to watch the movie to have a legal right to hit a like/dislike bar.
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>>81734774
It would really help though, a reader could actually trust the reviews.
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>>81734761
Fucking this. You can't just reduce a country's CO2 emissions down to its people, then assume that replacing those people 1 to 1 would result in a net loss. of course Europe, the US and Asia have high CO2 emissions, that's where all the factories are.
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What does the female vs male rating has to do with anything?
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Why does freedom of speech only matter to these people if it goes by the status quo?
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>>81734964
You can clearly see that those Turkish fucktards are underage teenage boys.
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>>81734335
They would have to literally change germany into syria to accomplish that. Of course it wouldn't be germany anymore
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>>81735035
>you can't just turn Germany into Syria
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>>81735209
Kek
Well played anon
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>>81734108
>Muslims find something alluring about a board a board known for hating Jews

Imagine my surprise.
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>Ghostbusters lost an estimated $70 million.
haha
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>>81734038
Their 'designated corner' does not contain Eastern Thrace.
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>holocaust didn't happen
seriously?
fuck even a fucking hollow earth makes a lot more sense
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Im really conflicted about the Promise
On one hand, 1915 was released in 2015 to commemorate the 100th Anniversary of the Armenian Genocide and was an incredibly powerful, insightful look at the issue and the controversy surrounding it while also being a bastion of independent low-budget filmmaking
And it got barely any recognition and was basically brushed aside. Meanwhile this film has a few celebrities and it's being praised as finally a film highlighting the Armenian genocide despite looking incredibly oscar-bait-ey

On the other hand, I'm glad that this genocide is finally getting some attention. No nation should be allowed to rewrite history unchallenged. I don't care about the political fallout, the reality is that there was a co-ordinated attempt on a large scale to kill as many Armenians as they could. And the descendants are still being told to this day that it wasn't a thing

/blogpost
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>>81735676
Yeah, it's definitely not a bad thing that there's movies being made about it. Holodomor movie when?
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>"So-called "downvoting" is haunting movie marketers."

Well then make better things and not half ass your reboots, lazy fucks.
Do they imply that they make great things but trolls are screwing them over?
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>>81735765
In this case they made a historical drama about the Armenian genocide and 55,000 Turks gave it downvotes months before there was ever a trailer
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>>81735729
I'm surprised it's not in the works already, anti-Russian media is pretty popular at the moment.
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>>81735813
Well if they go political/real life military they should expect some shittery. Even though people are stupid and don't understand fiction from documentary.
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>>81733422
Who will I play in my inevitable biopic?
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>>81733678

rogerebert.com
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Is the movie good and well made? I am glad it made angry some Turks.
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Well quit making shitty movies
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>These types of attacks aren’t exclusive to IMDb. Amy Schumer posted a lengthy message on Instagram in March after news sites reported that her new Netflix stand-up special, The Leather Special, had a one-star rating on the streamer. “The alt right organized trolls attack everything I do,” reads her post. “They organize to get my ratings down. Meeting in sub Reddit rooms.”

ok

and it's not unusual for politicized movies to get bandwagoned on

when you have a rating system open to public you cant expect everyone to be fair and objective

I dont understand the dilemma here
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>>81736212
Trailer looked pretty good. And it's got based actors Oscar Isaac and Christian Bale in it.
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>>81736325
Cool.
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>>81736309
Can you believe any shitlord thought this kino wasn't funny?
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>>81736239
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>>81733404
Pepe was also on John Oliver last night. Pepe meme stock is gonna be high this week.
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>>81736558
Was it a rare one tho?
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why do you think they literally shut down imdb forums they didint like getting called out unlike on reddit and fb
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>>81733665
It's not about memeing, it's about representing trolls and all the other neet assholes online.

It's literally called the TROLLface, so it's a good way to visually represent them.
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I mean, I have to believe that the majority of the online trolling done from here and abroad is mainly being done by teenaged newfags that just want to "fuck shit up" and have no idea what the far-reaching consequences of what they're doing are. these people are so short-sighted that they're basically trolling themselves. fuck it. they might figure it out one day when one of these idiotic schemes blows up in their face. until then, i'll be over here.
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>>81736595
It was an original Pepe, actually. At the moment of its inception, the rarest.
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>>81736595
Pepes are a facebook meme now.

It died, was reborn on facebook and then all the kids migrating to 4chan brought it back.
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>>81736750
that's literally why we call it facebook frog now
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>>81734199
>he doesn't know about the grand sacrifice needed to rip the fabric of existence open and allow us to live forever between dimensions
There's a reason the 6 gorillion number has been shilled so much - that's how many shitskins we need to sacrifice upon the altar of immortality.
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>>81736798
I remember people called others "dumb frogposters" when it was blowing up with normies, but I haven't seen "facebook frog" being used.
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>>81733404
Pepe killed Hollywood :(((
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>4chan-like anonymous imageboard is managed by holocaust denialist right-wingers
ha
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So anyone who expresses unpopular views and opinions is an internet troll?
Yeah what fucking assholes.
They are probably virgin basement dwellers as well.
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>>81735765
>an qt asian girl will never look at you like that
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>>81734861
This

I'd like to see how general public (i.e. not professional movie critics) see the movie, but with shit like this, it's pretty nuch useless.
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>>81736995
it's been a long time coming, the redefining of "trolling" as a concept about getting fucked with vs. the >feeling< of getting fucked with, which are functionally the same to people with no nuance in understanding that sometimes other people have different opinions
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>>81736987
/pol/ doesn't deny the Holocaust. They just don't believe 6 million Jews were killed. Jewish prophecies foretold that a tragedy would kill exactly 6 million of them. Now, isn't that convenient?
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>>81733571
Because the amount of evidence for the Armenian genocide is the same as the Jewish one (that being zero)
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poor jews
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>>81733678
Bumping for this
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>>81737653
Cuck
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>>81737653
Kill yourself you piece of shit
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>>81735656
Kill yourself cuck
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>>81733404
>it's not okay to downvote things you don't like
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>>81735656
>thinking that the holocaust happened
Lol, what a fucking idiot.
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>>81735656
Fuck you piece of shit
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>thread about hollywood losing the battle against online trolls
>thread is immediately against hollywood and can't be salvaged
>suddenly it goes full /pol/ and gets spammed with 10-15 posts per minute

... gee, wonder why that happened
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Turkroaches are mentally ill. They just voted for dictatorship. It's going to end in war.
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>>81735656
What a fucking cuck

Seriously, kill yourself
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>>81739248
Go back to Tumblr you fucking libtard. No one wants the likes of you trying to make 4chanians into a living fucking cesspool. Fuck outta here.
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>>81735656
Haha
Neck yourself faggot
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>>81739311
Are you a Turkroach? Why are you defending Turkish propaganda machine?
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Turkroaches get out
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>>81739311
This. Libtards have infested this board, its fucking disgusting.
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>>81739400
Aww did someone say something you disagreed with? You poor baby. Do you need a hug? Hang in there, stiff upper lip!
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>>81739355
Are you a Kike? Why are you going all JIDF, defending the very people trying to brainwash you? Exactly, so shut the fuck up.
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Let's have some fun
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>>81739248
you're not supposed to point things like this out
same as how you're not supposed to point out that pro trump /pol/ threads hit the bump limit, but threads criticising trump are deleted within ten minutes
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>>81739442
>>81739477
Fuck off samefag.
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DONALD TRUMP
KKK
RACIST
SEXIST
ANTI-GAY
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>>81739521
Oh no, you suck again!
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>>81739477
look at this triggered babby! Babby needs milky, right? Seriously, go fuck yourself.
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>>81739594
>Seriously
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>>81739442
Go away turkroach. War is coming your way, Mehmet. You elected a dictator, now we have a reason to bomb the kebab out of you. Better get those Turkish girls ready for the western cocks. We're coming for you and your sultan.
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Who linked this thread to /pol/? It's a fucking train wreck.
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>>81737346
>mfw I have
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>>81733571
Because the armenian genocide actually happened.
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>>81739426
>did someone say something you disagreed with?
If someone shoving their shit down your fucking throat is called saying something you disagreed with, then someone did say something I disagreed with. Plus, being a degenerate is good enough for your whole petty life to be considered worthless in reality. (((hollywood))) is a joke.
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>>81739578
Nice
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>>81739594
>you guys srsly stop making fun of my fwends baaawwww
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what did they mean by this?
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Pure coincidence I'm sure.
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/tv/ just asks teenage celebs for feet pics though.
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>>81739695
Someone shoved their shit down your throat? Okay buddy thanks for sharing!
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>>81739794
he's so hot
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>>81735656
Fucking. Kill. Yourself. Jew.
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>>81739077
Shalom, my hook nosed shekel sucker.
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>>81733678
moviechat.org managed to save quite a lot of the conversatons from imdb (though no everything, specially obscurer movies) and you can post their too.
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>>81733404
>http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywood-is-losing-battle-online-trolls-992582

Yeah, it's the internet's fault that no one wants to see a movie about the Armenian Genocide, starring two big name, completely unrelatable rich asshole Hollywood actors. Who wouldn't want to stroll into a theater on a summer evening to watch that?

It's not the fault of theater's who have been nickel and diming moviegoers to the the point that seeing a movie costs a miniature vacation. Nor is it the fact that studios have to compete with new sources of content in the 21st Century, whereas they had a stranglehold on how and where movies were exhibited and distributed.

Nope, it's pasty little fat shitheads who are to blame because they hate everything and voted for an idiot conman who has no idea what he's doing and will probably start a costly war in North Korea this summer (because that will definitely make him popular) on his way to defrauding the taxpayer into paying for his shithole properties. All because they abhorred the thought of a woman running the country.

Everything bad in the world is their fault. Oh, and internet piracy. Let's not leave off that old, but still a favorite, scapegoat.
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>>81733404
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>>81735914
me, or robert downey jr
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>>81736750
Pepe never died on 4chan.
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>>81733943
You have to go back
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wasn't this thread remotely sane half an hour ago?

were a ton of posts deleted or something?
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>>81736750
nazi frog never stopped being a thing over here
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>>81733404
>make shitty movie
>get "downvoted"
>WAAAA IT IS THE TROLLZ!!!!!! *cry cry*
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everything will be AI filtered so you can only see CNN and huffpo, the 'real' news as they call it. you won't be able to call anyone names either, roody-poo.
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>>81735914
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>>81733594
>oh vey! they are countering out opinion pieces with their own opinions!! some of them even have solid argument points and scientific paper links
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>>81740979
Literally, 4chan is the most news I see on any basis. There is no "news" there's only "news entertainment".
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>>81733599
Hollywood is ButtHurt because they can no longer advance The Narrative.
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>>81739528
Deal with it faggot :)
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>>81739637
how in earth is this suave dude supossed to be used as an anti maga meme? look that fucking sweet cake
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>>81740722

>post picture of a manchild
>tells someone they have to go back

Aren't you the one who needs to back?
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It's funny how alt righters get all their news through /pol/ after all the complaining they always do of fictional people in their head getting all their news from the daily show
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>>81741062
4chan TV News When?
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>>81741062

Or you could always read news stories from a variety of sources which you may or may not agree with instead of watching people talk about the news. Then just use your critical thinking to determine what is and isn't real news. But that sounds like a lot of work 4chan is probably your best bet anon. xD
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>>81741289
>alt-righters get all their news through /pol/
>but only fictional people get all their news through the daily show
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>>81733404
The final meme war will be /tv/ vs Hollywood.
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>>81741444

It's almost as if many people across the ideological spectrum are equally uninformed.
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>>81741505
>alt-left pussies cry about literally any opinion that isn't the same as theirs
My fucking sides
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>>81741415

4chums is fine for getting the gist of it. being a news junkie is a massive waste of time when you can just skim and get more or less what's correct in a couple of minutes.
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>>81741655

>inane political (((discourse))) on the /tv/ board
>Hah! The only reason people are mad is because they disagree!
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>>81741726

>4chan is fine for getting the gist of it
>reading the news for 30 minutes a day is a massive waste of time

I just can't for the life of me understand why the average voter is so uninformed.
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>>81741505
>he unironcally uses the term "alt-right"
So, how many upvotes did your last reddit post get?
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>>81741655
>He thinks his "opinions" are actually his own
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>>81739260
>They just voted for dictatorship
>%51 vs %49
yeah sure all of them are mentally ill.
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>>81741798

get off your high horse and you could understand more
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>>81741655
Dude, trump is literally a zionist
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>>81737694
t. Mehmet
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>>81742030

get off 4chan and you might understand why it shouldn't be your main source of news
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>>81742193
So?
Are you a fucking anti-semite?
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For every legitimate comment there's 10 more that are baby boomers complaining about things they don't understand.

And 5 more from an Indian bootlegging site advertising "Grate movie make $$$ working ur own hours I made 100,000 last year asked me how"

Closing comment sections literally loses nothing.

The main problem is that alternative media doesn't have an outlet because typically getting people who don't trust media to read...well, any media is like herding cats.
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>>81742208

it works for me. stay mad tho and keep reading your time-wasting articles
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>>81733404

>Before the critics in attendance even had the chance to exit Roy Thompson Hall, let alone write their reviews, The Promise's IMDb page was flooded with tens of thousands of one-star ratings

lol idiots, those aren't internet trolls, those are roach nationalists being their usual butthurt selves
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>>81742776

Not all news is in the form of wordy opinion pieces. And clearly neither of us are actually concerned with wasting our time given that you're trying to argue the merits of being willfully ignorant to a stranger.
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>>81733571
because it didn't involve God's chosen people
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>"""educated""" elitist liberals throwing another tantrum
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>>81733484

this seems to be about a mythic hero, a "noble retard" like forrest gump, not really the 4chan virgin type which is far from innocent
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>>81739637
that's a nice cake
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>>81733404
kek, do they really think any of us care about the Armenian Genocide enough to downvote it?
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>>81733571
girls not wanting to have sex with you isn't genocide
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>>81743598

its not really about 4chan but a turkish imageboard. Never trust a turk
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>>81743598
I think what happened is /pol/ thought it was denying the american genocide
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>>81733571
Or the Greek genocide
Or the Assyrian genocide
Or the Holodomor
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>>81735404
>Turks hating Jews
Somebody needs a quick history lesson. Their greatest leader was a Jew
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>>81741305
lewd
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>>81733938

It's an 80's joke movement, like Pave the Earth.
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>>81744047
Illegal to deny the Holodomor in Ukraine

illegal to deny the Armenian genocide in Armenia
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>>81733618
Most western countries classify holocaust denial as hate speech and can get you jail time - Canada, France, Germany, etc
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>>81743703
T femanon kikess
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>>81734964

Women have much more leftwing PC views on literally any subject you could name.
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>>81733571
>>81733619
>>81734072
>>81736714
>>81737787
>>81740120
>>81740392
>>81741024
>>81741754
>>81741903

really makes me think
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>>81735459

That's way out. It made less that $300 million globally, Feig is on record stating it needed to make $500 million to break even.
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>>81745246
>countries which experienced a genocide are also the ones where it's illegal to deny them
wow

yet again in Greece it's not illegal to deny the greek genocide, even their cuck prime minister denied it
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>>81735765
do people actually base what movie they are going to see on downvotes though? I don't give 2fucks what other people think about a movie if the trailer makes the movie look interesting I'll go if not I don't only people whose opinion on movies I trust is people is people I actually know in real life not know through fb
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>>81741798
>I just can't for the life of me understand why the average voter is so uninformed.

That's simple: They only listen to the MSM.
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Leftists make fun of only Christians. We hate them all.
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>>81745444
it's the same thing you bitch about jews doing. The only difference is Ukrainians/Armenians don't have as much influence globally because they're less intelligent than Jews
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>>81741655
problem is the extremes of both sides do it
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>>81745574
they're defending christians being trolled against muslims here (turks vs armenians)

read the article
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>>81733571
Armenian """"""people""''''"
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>>81733665
saying 'bait' instead of troll is surely an amazing distinction, you retard.
am I rusing/baiting or trolling you? maybe I'm just pulling your leg, fuckface.
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>>81734000
Totally not Jewish, guys.
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>>81733404

Ah I see. Ghostbusters failed because of a "trolling campaign" not because it was utter garbage.
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>>81733571
Holocaust: divine beings are brutally murdered
Armenian genocide: just what the fuck is an armenian?
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>>81733944

He's just a fucking turkroach, 4chan is crawling with them.
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>>81734000

>trips of truth

Who in their right mind would prefer to cull the smart populations in favor of the dumb ones who won't stop having babies, use resources with no wherewithal to the consequences, and don't plan for the future.
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>>81746955

Yeah, it's crazy. The only way a plan like that would make sense would be if from your perspective those people were a threat and you wanted to eliminate them.
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>>81733404
>A search of 4chan reveals multiple campaigns against everything from Star Wars spinoff Rogue One to indie Holocaust-denier drama Denial to Justin Simien’s upcoming Netflix series Dear White People

Do they mean threads? Are they talking about threads?
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>>81733404
>STILL arguing that people hated Ghostbusters because of trolls and not because it was bad
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>>81733404
People hate the state of Hollywood. Diversity, capeshit, capshite diversity, virtue signalling, <insert tumblr ism here>

MUST BE THE TROLLS REEEEE
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>>81733404
>Now autists on 4chan are going to pretend that they don't troll the ever living fuck out of anyone for this new righteous indignation now that people are fed up with them
Wew, I am so shocked
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>>81747427
>people hate non-existing problems that people people don't sperg out about or care
Fixed it for you
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good work everyone
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>>81746725
That's right you goddamn white supremacist. Now pay the reparations and shut up.
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>>81736309
>Meeting in sub Reddit rooms
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>>81733422
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>>81739477
the only ones that are true are the first two though :'(
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>>81739248
this. marketers piss me off because they infiltrate my place of leisure and shit all over the place with this social justice crap. other anons piss me off because they fall for the bait every fucking time.
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>>81734558
>Johns Hopkins professor whose devoted his entire educational life to this subject?
>trusting the (((elites)))
why is a wimpy white dude guy who got a bullshit degree from a liberal arts university that teaches shit that has no applicability in real, day-to-day life someone worth listening to? fuck the """experts"""
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With the death of IMDB forums, where can people go to discuss obscure movies?

Aren't comment sections for correcting mistakes and expressing dissenting opinion from the article?
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>>81735656
fuck off racist it was a lie
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>it's another "megacorps blame their bland, shitty products failing on internet trolls" episode

My favourite use of that trope was the Hillary campaign
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>>81736798
stop conflating sitewide consensus with your own personal opinion
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>>81743439
for you
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>article about butthurt turks 1-starring a movie they've never seen for political reasons
>/tv/: "durr libtards, durr make better movies then"
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>>81735765
>downvoting
How can we stop reddit?
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>>81749870
I love this pseudo-intellectual position of "don't literally trust anyone in any field ever", anti-intellectualism bullshit. As if everyone is out to get you, forever.
>someone is moderstely versed in something, that means I should completely ignore him
Of course, unless you already agree with the position...right? PizzaGate doesnt even get that level of skepticism, you faggots just blindly agree.
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>yet one more thing to complain about
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>>81745629
>implying the left/right paradigm isn't just a means for the oligarchs to manipulate the plebs.
SORT
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>>81733571
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>>81741903
kek
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>>81750626
>implying i went along with pizzagate
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>>81733404
Make good movies then instead of fucking them up
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>>81734434
>not getting the joke
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>>81733571
N A N K I N G
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I
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>>81733653
Excellent description bro.

I'm going to steal it and use it as my own to piss people off.
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>>81734335
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>>81751049
You probably believe something autistic
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>>81733404
>IMPLYING THEY EVER STOOD A CHANCE

THE FIRST POST ON THE INTERNET WAS PORN, THE SECOND WAS A TROLL
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>>81751536
But it isn't substantive
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>>81734558
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>>81733404
4chan is the religion of peace
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>>81734458

Wtf is wrong with Niger
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>>81733944
There are cool Muslims that kept it to themselves like Saddam. You think we'd be in this shit with all this anti white muh slamophobia shitskins situation if he was still in power?
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>>81736558
>Pepe meme stock is gonna be high this week.
Alright Gil. You can maybe do it this time
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>>81737346
with enough money and the chance of her getting citizenship, she would smile like that for the 1500LB bedsore guy from my big fatty life.
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>>81739260
sultanite/caliphate son. get you shit straight.
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>>81739637
I wish my birthday cake was as RAD as his.
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>>81735656
Kike detected
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>>81734659
OH SHIT THAT MUST INVALIDATE ALL HIS WORK THEN!
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So is there any good movies about Armenian genocide?
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>>81749870
Since you apparently don't trust liberal arts schools (due to the very obvious cultural Marxism, of course) what do you trust then?

Baptist private schools?
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>>81733404
>Turkroaches suck

What else is new.
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>>81750173
just like all the prajeets 1 starring snapchat, because the owners dont want prajeets infesting it.
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>>81733404
>online trolls
I guess that's another way of saying 'anyone who opposes degeneracy'.
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>Hollywood finally recognizes the Armenian Genocide
>This is still problematic for /pol/
>Why do they have a problem?
>because posters don't like being called trolls
>despite spending thousands of combined man hours
>being trolls
Nobody can please you fucking faggots.
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>>81752310
i support coming to your own conclusion free of intentionally manipulative forces
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>>81752447
>muh degeneracy meme
It's funny how some of you think degeneracy is a real thing.
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>>81734558
>bioethics professor
>expert on carbon emissions

Do you understand what bioethics is? He's being paid by big money to shill policy for them.

Singerian consequentialism is the most autistic modern philosophy of morals there is. It is incredibly creep.

>>81750626
Yes, let's have the "experts" run everything. No need for democracy or allowing people to have control over their own nations or lives. Surely the "experts" didn't secure their positions by doing exactly what monied interests told them to and aren't continuing to do their bidding once secured.
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>>81752475
At the expense of having any sort of facts at all...?Or fields of study revolving around that information? Not everyone is trying to manipulate you though. You can't live your life that paranoid.

That just sounds like an autistic hand wave to believe whatever you want without being told how correct/incorrect it is.

Like a cop out.
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>>81752486
>I'm so deep in the degenerate mindset and it's so normalized to me that I don't consider it degeneracy
Day of the fucking rope for you, lad.
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>>81752486
It's sad that you don't accept you need moral limits in order to thrive as a society.
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>>81752521
>Yes, let's have the "experts" run everything. No need for democracy or allowing people to have control over their own nations or lives.
Not a single person said that. But if you live your life assuming every piece of information is a carefully constructed lie, you won't be able to accept literally anything that is remotely true if it just so happens to fall outside of what you agree with already.

Like global warming for instance. That is a hard scientific fact. According to your logic, it's all just a conspiracy from Big Green.
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>>81752617
>moralfag
morals have never been absolutes that exist outside of a societal contract. Some morals change over time. We don't stone women and murder gays anymore in the first world. Unless you are an absolute fucking madman, those are positive changes.
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>>81752590
>blah blah day of the rope blah blah
Right. Got it.
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>>81752218
There is only one TV show about Armenian genocide
Keeping Up With The Kardashians
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>>81733404
A romance set during the Armenian genocide?
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>>81733404
They clearly didnt spend much time on 4chan if they think we deny the Armenian genocide here.
Genocide denying Turkish roaches arent welcome here
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>>81752521
>Surely the "experts" didn't secure their positions by doing exactly what monied interests told them to and aren't continuing to do their bidding once secured.
You realize that most intellectual fields are severely underfunded, right? Science as an example, has been a consistently underfunded overarching field. Want to guess why, friendo?

Go on...guess why governments usually underfund science programs. You get a few hints. What would be, I don't know, super threatening to large corporations like Big Oil or Gas?
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>>81752617
There's nothing wrong with moral limits. The problem starts depending on what exactly is considered "moral" to some people. There are assholes who think just being gay is immoral and that they should be forced to either be straight or outright killed. To me, that sort of mentality is fucking immoral.
This isn't as a clear cut of an issue as "these people are doing something I don't like and should be punished for it".
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>>81752628
>Not a single person said that. But if you live your life assuming every piece of information is a carefully constructed lie, you won't be able to accept literally anything that is remotely true if it just so happens to fall outside of what you agree with already.
It was absolutely implied by the post, and it is what we're currently facing in the world right now. The technocracy is destroying the social contract.

I do not assume every piece of information is a lie. I'm knowledgeable enough now to figure out what is though, or how the scam is holds together.

>Like global warming for instance. That is a hard scientific fact. According to your logic, it's all just a conspiracy from Big Green.
Straw-man galore! It isn't "all" a conspiracy. Climate change is being exploited by the elite to force in authoritarian changes. It's being used as a power grab.

The real discussion isn't whether climate change exists or not. This is how the debate is framed to shut down dissent to how we should plan for it.
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>>81752700
You dirty little niggerfaggot, I'm going to use your corpse as target practice when you swing.
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>>81752813
Don't be silly.
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>>81752830
What the hell are you talking about and what does it have to do with what you quoted? Seriously, are you high right now? I hope somebody isn't paying you to write this garbage.
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>>81752945
>Climate change is being exploited by the elite to force in authoritarian changes. It's being used as a power grab.
I stopped reading after that. I thought you were moderately rational, my bad. I didn't realize you were batshit ridiculous. Here's your last (you).

There is no reasoning with people like you anyway, it takes far too long to just establish basic reality.
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>>81753031
Not being able to register thoughts and ideas written for you is a sign of autism, anon.
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>>81752945
>being this removed from the world.
Get off this website, kiddo.
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>>81752945
>climate change is being used as a power grab
>the powerful corporations are against climate change and constantly campaign to discredit it
>power grab
what did he mean by this?
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>>81753054
You never let a serious crisis go to waste, so sayeth Mr. Emanuel.

Coincidentally, Rahm's brother is a bioethicist and architect of Obamacare. Oh, boy, do they love themselves some eugenics. It never went out of vogue with the Anglo elite, just went underground after post-war propaganda aimed at the Nazis poisoned the well.
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>>81753184
what?
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>>81753085
No, it's a sign you can't communicate very effectively.

>>81753136
Nah, I'm good.

>>81753162
Gas and oil campaign against regulations aimed at them, not against implementing policy like Agenda 21. You think the Saudis are against Germany being replaced by Syrian refugees? That doesn't cut into their bottom line.
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>>81753305
>Gas and oil campaign against regulations aimed at them, not against implementing policy like Agenda 21.
How retarded are you? They campaign heavily against climate science and green energy because they fundamentally don't want competition in energy here in the US. They go out of their own way to make this clear to most people who aren't fucking stupid, like you are apparently. Green energy is renewable and is more profitable for smaller companies and they absolutely get asspained about it because then it makes the free market on energy...competitive. To make matters worse, the majority of paid Gas and Oil shills who discredit the science, do so with no actual counter-argument or real facts. They just hope useful idiots like yourself will eat their bullshit long enough to take their word as gospel. "Just ignore all of NASA's findings because uh...uh...NASA is part of the conspiracy!"

Convenient hand waves.

You are on the wrong side here, bud.
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>>81753234
"You never let a serious crisis go to waste." Rahm Emanuel meant that it's a good strategy to politicize every tragedy and use it as an opportunity to gain more power.
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>>81753436
And that is what you think the actual hard science concerning climate change is? You sure it's just not you being gullible?
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>>81753305
>No, it's a sign you can't communicate very effectively.
It was pretty clear, bud. I asked you to use your noggin and tell me why you think these institutions are always underfunded.
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>>81753305
I can't imagine siding with energy monopolies who choke hold this economy and make you suffer for it year after year. That's what a real cuck looks like honestly, as dumb as that term is.

I like competition, thanks.
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>>81753427
How retarded are you? Why do liberals have such poor reading comprehension skills?

Of course they're going to campaign against competition. They've already shelved potential technology that could help us get off of oil. You missed my entire point though. They're only concerned about things that cut into their bottom line, not policy designed to take away people's sovereignty.
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>>81753468
I never denied any science. My issue is what we are told to do to address it.

>>81753516
No, it was an altogether idiotic post. I'm sorry, not even worrh getting into it because it is so dumb, honestly.

>>81753578
I'm not siding with any major corporation, certainly not the Saudis. It isn't a zero-sum game. You can oppose big oil and also realize climate change is being used as a pretext to take away national sovereignty.
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>>81753584
>ITS DA LIBERALS
Right, you aren't brainwashed at all. Have of this shit makes no fucking sense, as if you haven't actually done any real reflection or study on the things you say you believe.
>Of course they're going to campaign against competition.
Which is, in case you are having trouble, a bad thing to do.
>They've already shelved potential technology that could help us get off of oil.
Which...should concern you. Holy shit, your own argument is working against you.
>You missed my entire point though. They're only concerned about things that cut into their bottom line, not policy designed to take away people's sovereignty.
But this isn't true at all. Otherwise, they wouldn't try to discredit actual hard science. How does that help you? Honestly, how does someone lying to you about facts related to CO2 emissions a sign of them looking out for your free agency? They are quite seriously funding oppositions in order to prevent you from understanding the realities of their pollution.

You are on the wrong side of this argument if you support them. There isn't much nuance here between "supporting people lying to you for cash" and "supporting actual science".
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>>81753654
>climate change is being used as a pretext to take away national sovereignty.
But this isn't happening unless you are a tinfoil autist. It is literally NOT happening. Who does it help to believe that?

GEE...
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>>81753654
>I never denied any science. My issue is what we are told to do to address it.
If you are addressing it by ignoring the factual realities of it, you are part of the problem.
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>>81753683
Jesus, you're fucking retarded. Seriously, go back to school and work on those reading comprehension skills.

I'm not denying any scientific research or supporting big oil. This is how you like to frame the debate because you're a mindless parrot who has bought into the popular media narrative.

My issue is with the potential policy prescription and the results of that policy,
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>>81753818
when in doubt, dismiss all criticisms as part of a "media narrative parrot" meme. Right? More hand waving.

Go fuck yourself, aspie. You aren't equipped to handle this conversation and seem to know very little about it, besides shit you made up in your own head.
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>>81753715
>Who does it help to believe that?
It helps our nation to believe that. I'm not even talking about carbon taxes or any of that.

>>81753747
You are so eat off, it's painful.
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>>81753818
>My issue is with the potential policy prescription and the results of that policy
What specifically is a policy you personally have an issue with? Limiting CO2 emissions in the atmosphere? wow, that sure does hurt you.

You don't even know what you have a real problem with, don't you? You just eat up these alternative news sites as if they aren't all towing their own narratives.
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>>81753865
Dismiss all criticisms? I'm saying you're trying to say that's I believe this and that, and I'm telling you why I don't. But even after explaining why, you still parrot your media talking points like a good stooge.
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>>81753893
It helps our nation to believe in paranoid bullshit like, "everyone is out to get you and take away your national sovereignty"?
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>>81753927
Let's take a relevant example; Replacing Germany's population with Syrian refugees because it would limit carbon emissions is something that I would oppose.
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>>81753942
>But even after explaining why, you still parrot your media talking points like a good stooge.
I'm parroting facts, autist. Climate change is a fact, CO2 emissions are out of control, that's a fact. Major corporations fund smear campaigns to make competition impossible, fact.

These are all verifiable facts. It doesn't matter who says them. Just dismissing them because some people in the media say a variation of that is equally autistic.
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>>81754018
>Replacing Germany's population with Syrian refugees because it would limit carbon emissions is something that I would oppose.
What the fuck are you talking about though? That is a false equivalence and not what we are talking about.
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>>81753966
It's not paranoid bullshit. These bioethicists are openly pushing for changes in demographics because of some spurious claim about carbon emissions.

It's essentially dysgenics couched in climate considerations.
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>>81754081
Literally who is saying that? Where? What credible scientist is saying EXACTLY how you put that?
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>>81754024
Again, I never denied any so-called "fact." Keep repeating your tired talking points though.

>>81754049
It was mentioned earlier in the thread. That's a consequentialist argument using the guise of climate change to sneak in changes in national sovereignty. This is a mainstream viewpoint in academia now.
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>>81754097
Earlier in the thread it was mentioned. Also:

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/479349760/should-we-be-having-kids-in-the-age-of-climate-change
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>>81754162
>so-called "fact."
They are just called facts, kiddo.
>That's a consequentialist argument using the guise of climate change to sneak in changes in national sovereignty
You haven't cited anywhere where a real scientist has actually said that.
>This is a mainstream viewpoint in academia now.
No it isn't. You are reaching with this point. This is why you come off as gullible.
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>>81754206
Nowhere in this does someone go "replace Germans with Syrian refugees to help with carbon emissions".

Asking the question about population rates in an era of exceptional environmental strain is a serious and viable question. What in the fuck is your problem with that?

How is that not a real question to ask?
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>>81754269
They aren't scientists, they're bioethicists. Somebody posted some "intellectual" from Johns Hopkins who apparently made the argument.
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>>81754321
I never said that the article had to deal with Germany or the refugees.

You didn't read he article. They're pushing for people to stop having kids in 1st world countries, not everywhere.
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>>81754338
Then how the fuck does "one dude who wrote a blog post one time" into "this is a mainstream opinion?"

You sound like an ill-informed reactionary, making mountains out of molehills...
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>>81754402
He's a fucking professor, you nitwit.
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>>81754401
>They're pushing for people to stop having kids in 1st world countries, not everywhere.
You sure do love to read into shit, don't you? They aren't "pushing", they are merely discussing the strain of increased population rates on an already stressed environment. There is no policy or policing people's reproduction.

I honestly personally agree that we should be having less kids, it's the only immediate option we may have to deal with short-term issues that are coming around the corner. I guess I'm some sort of fascist then to you?
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>>81754460
one professor saying that (of whom, you did not cite yet) is not indicative of a "mainstream opinion". You understand that, right?
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>>81754468
>There is no policy or policing people's reproduction.

These are the people who help design policy like Rahm Emanuel's brother.

>I honestly personally agree that we should be having less kids, it's the only immediate option we may have to deal with short-term issues that are coming around the corner. I guess I'm some sort of fascist then to you?
The third world needs to have less kids, not the West. They're pushing it in the West so that they can change the demographics. The article makes an argument for why we need it in the West and can't promote it in the third world (it's bogus).
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>>81754401
>They're pushing for people to stop having kids in 1st world countries
First world countries tend to produce the most carbon emissions and could afford to reproduce less. Does that trigger you? You prefer we expect the same for third world shitholes? Some of which, may not even have modern medicine?
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>>81754510
Kek, it isn't just one professor, m8. Holy shit.

I brought up the professor because they were talking about him earlier in the thread before I even posted.
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>>81754641
>They're pushing it in the West so that they can change the demographics
AH, there it is. There's the tinfoil hat. It's all part of a big conspiracy to change demographics. Let me guess, is it a white genocide too? Are the Jews behind it?

Just go kill yourself already. Muddling real problems of climate change with your /pol/ faggotry makes you look silly.
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>>81754654
There is no research that shows something like this would have any significant benefit. The guy is just a philosopher. It's being pushed for ulterior motives.
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>>81754680
>it isn't just one professor
Then by all means, show me. I'll wait.
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>>81754711
The point is to undermine national sovereignty. Abolish the masses as Brecht said. It isn't a racial agenda per se.

The point is to undermine democratic blocks against the technocracy.
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>>81754730
>There is no research that shows something like this would have any significant benefit
But...there is.
>It's being pushed for ulterior motives.
Which is just in your autistic as fuck head and something you haven't proven in the slightest.

Just, stop posting. Read a fucking book Idk.
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>>81754744
>>81754206

All the modern Singerian stuff is of this flavor. Creepy dysgenics.
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