it's shit

It get's better the more you stick with it an get used to it's style. As an older viewer (29) I found the parent characters most interesting. Hannah does something that disappoints her parents, but it's really no big deal. She's of course too hard on herself about it. Wish the different home lives were explored more to develop the teen characters more.

Why is clay so incompetent?

Is this about another attractive white girl who kills herself?

>>81603284
>when the disclaimers start showing up at the beginning of the episodes
F E A R.jpg

For real though, episodes 9-12 are kino. Real good stuff.

It's good you contraction fag

It wouldve been good if Clay wasnt so annoying

>>81603654

And if some bad stuff actually happened rather than a drama queen feelies get bruised so that means everybody LITERALLY killed her

>>81603284
/tv/ loves it though

>>81603677
>yes Clay you literally killed her because you were too beta to force yourself on her t. Tony
<waaaaah how can i live with myself im gonna jump off a cliff
top kek desu

Thought it was good but it fizzled out towards the end.

It's actually incredible character-driven storytelling. I can see how someone might think it's too preachy with Clay's white knighting antics or too dramatic with Hannah's tapes, but there's a subtle difference between a character's point of view and the meaning of the show.

Clay's a loser who unconsciously loves to shit all over himself. He's got a guilt problem. That's why the lead up to his tape was so difficult for him, because he didn't know how he hurt Hannah, but he became so used to the idea that he killed her through his actions and so sure that he was responsible that he accepted the blame for Jeff's death and the multiple rapes. Even with Hannah saying that he isn't guilty of any of it, he still feels accountable because that's Clay's character. His crusade/white knighting is a projection of his own continued guilt. He blames himself for getting the girl he loved killed when he's completely innocent.

Hannah's a piece of shit for stirring up so much trouble and breaking her parent's hearts. The point isn't to think she was right to make the tapes, effectively haunting twelve people from beyond the grave when only one (Bryce) truly deserved to be punished for his action; the point was that, in her emotional state, she had to find a way to regain control. She blamed everyone else for her suicide before it even happened, even an easily distracted guidance counselor she set up for failure and a boy she drove away by saying one thing and meaning the other. She could have left a note for her parents saying "Bryce Walker raped me and I couldn't live with it. I'm sorry." She could have committed suicide somewhere else so her parents wouldn't have to find the body. She's selfish and cruel in her final days, and never takes true responsibility for herself. Her legacy will be the horrible things the tapes caused, including ruined futures, Alex's attempted suicide and, potentially, a school shooting.

The show is 10/10.

>>81603811
wew lad

>>81603811
Based Tyler needs to finish the job and end the other 12's lives.

Daily Reminder that Jessica did nothing wrong.

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>Bryce will never be my friend

can we all agree that we just watched this for that qt suicidal

>>81603830

If the second season premiere starts with him shooting up the school, my dick will be diamonds.

Why is this garbage young adult shit even being discussed? Just fuck off back to plebbit or /co/, no one wants you here

>>81603875

Jessica slapped and abandoned Hannah because she's a jealous cunt.

And I'd be surprised if she didn't get with Justin partially because he's the guy who ruined Hannah's reputation. Subtext, nigger.

>>81603811
That's actually some heavy stuff, hadn't seen it that way.

I loved how the characters were way more fleshed out in this than in the book. In the book we just sorta took Hannah's word as gospel, while here it's a lot less clear-cut. Like you said, Bryce deserves to have his dick sliced off but most of the other characters are at least redeemable.

Zack, Justin, Jessica, Alex, they all were decent. Tyler was a lot less morally grey but I felt for him because you can tell that nigga's a robot. Poetry Nigga (I honestly can't remember his name) was a dick but his heart was in the right place.

Courtney (who is extraordinarily difficult to buy as a popular girl) is a bitch. Sheri, still a bitch but not as much. Bryce, he's a cunt and deserves what's coming to him (unless they try to make this a Brock Turner scenario)

>>81603943

It doesn't belong on /co/, you dumb faggot. If you don't like people talking about TV Shows on /tv/, then watch the finale of this show so you can get a good example of exactly how to kill yourself.

It's not shit. Stop being a hipster fag and thinking you're cool. Addictive series with decent characters and interesting to watch.

>>81603981
>watch the finale of this show
the finale is letting you know what you should do for watching the whole thing through and having such shit taste.

>>81604010
It is shit tho

>>81603975

It's strange how people can see the nuances of the rest of the cast and not see Hannah ultimately being selfish or Clay being driven by guilt.

Hell, I've even seen people talk about feeling bad for Bryce because he's clearly conditioned by his success and home life to feel like he can get away with anything. No supervision, no consequences, he's even aware as early as episode 2 of the fact that he needs to keep a 'clean' reputation to keep getting up to the shit he does. Bryce can shamelessly, innocently hang out with Jessica after raping her while she was blackout drunk, on her own bed, during her own party. There's something clearly wrong with him.

But fuck Courtney. Five-headed cunt.

>>81603811
I think Alex's suicide didn't really have much to do with Hannah, but rather with how fucked up his family seemed to be. His dad never accepted him the way he is.

>>81604010
it's unrealstic, melodramatic garbage. none of the characters act they way they would irl. the dialogue is so horrendous that it makes it tough to get through even 1 episode, the characters themselves are nothing but cliches and stereotypes... really there is nothing good about this show. it's amateurish shit

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>>81603981
>It doesn't belong on /co/

Yes it does, it appeals to the same demographic of overweight pasty virgins who think Trump is "problematic" and spend their free time discussing the latest marvel tv shows. You don't belong here

>>81604039

Our differences in taste have nothing to do with the validity of this thread being on the /tv/ board. I'm sure you love all sorts of fucking terrible TV Shows, but I'm not going to go into one of their threads and say they don't belong.

What kind of pathetic loser do you have to be to go into a thread about a show you don't like and insult the people who are talking about it?

>>81604089
Lol what. This is hands down one of the most autistic "muh super secret club" posts that I've seen on /tv/

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I can't stand people like Courtney. I dated a girl just like her and she was a two faced war Hawk who destroyed people's lives in high school.

why didn't Hannah and the azn girl fugg

>garbage netflix shows literally aimed at teenagers

if you can't see why this doesn't belong here then you're part of the problem

>>81604081

His family is only part of the problem. The problem for Alex was that Hannah was the only person who tried to take him to task for his mistakes. His fellow tape subjects on the honor counsel protected him from punishment, his father protects him from legal shit, and no one around him tells him that what he's doing is fucked up. He's not only upset by this, he's got a low tolerance for guilt because he's not used to feeling so incredibly guilty. Suicide is a self-inflicted punishment for him.

And he's been heartbroken about Jessica this entire time as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he feels the same kind of guilt about his part in her rape (through Hannah's retarded cause-and-effect way of looking at the 13 reasons list) as Clay did when he realized what happened the night of Jessica's party.

>>81604089

This bait is pathetic.

>>81604186
no one cares nigger, imagine trying to actually analyse a tv show aimed at 16 year old girls

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Daily reminder Justin goes through twice the amount of abuse and trauma that Hannah does and should be worthy of your sympathy

>>81604173

>tv show
>/tv/ board
>"This doesn't belong here!"

Your autism is showing.

>>81604071
>five-headed cunt
Fuckin' A.

>>81603975
>Courtney (who is extraordinarily difficult to buy as a popular girl)

She's a Hillary incarnate. She acts cool and progressive around others yet will destroy people's lives to cover her own ass.

>>81604089
>t. Doesn't understand that /co/ is the comics and cartoons board
Had a fair kek at that one m8erino

Obviously it's shit. It's being shilled hard as fuck and i have no idea why, we aren't the target audience. Well, what scares me is that we might be and I don't know it. Meaning we have a lot more underage than I thought.

>>81604213
>crossposting underage redditard doesn't understand board culture

well that's a shocker

>that jerk off scene

why did he squirt 4 squirts of lotion? excessive isn't it?

>>81604279
It's r9k kino anon

>>81604279
it's the school holidays, all these children will be back at school next week. Still doesn't make it right, any show aimed at teenagers and legbearded dykes should be automatically banned from /tv/

>>81604250
Not to mention the "alleged rapist" line. The gay poetry dude telling her to fuck off was 100% satisfying.

Also I feel real bad for Tyler. He was a creep but he got a disproportionate amount of shit.

>>81604280
>/tv/
>board culture

please stop. jesus christ

>>81604304
it actually made me sick how this show got threads here. and not only did it get threads, they hit bump limit multiple times.

>>81604313
You gotta go back, though.

>omg I feel so super bad for this television character!
>Fuck X. They're an asshole!

is this really what /tv/ has become?

>>81604347
go back to where?

>people acting all high-and-mighty about a show that deals with teenagers
>meanwhile they'll praise LITERAL COMIC BOOK MOVIES as being high art

The "reddit" meme's been making a comeback. I wonder why.

>>81604286
also its unrealistic he'd fap to something so lame and vanilla as that picture, has he not heard of pornhub?

>>81604361
Wherever it is you came from, friendo. You don't belong here though.

>>81604279

Have you considered the possibility that the people who browse this board don't fit a single, united demographic? And fuck, it's an incredibly popular show. Netflix has no need to shill it here or anywhere.

>>81604280

>board culture

You're the biggest, most incredible faggot. Slit your wrists.

>>81604386
I've posted on /tv/ since the board was created. Try harder newfag.

>>81604390
>Have you considered the possibility that the people who browse this board don't fit a single, united demographic?
But for a long time, we literally did. This Reddit infestation has seemingly changed that though.

>>81604405
sure you have, buddy.

>>81604411
That's not true though.

Like all boards on 4chan, /tv/ goes through FOTM phases, each year /tv/'s tastes changes.

>>81604426
It wasn't that long ago faggot. My bet is that you came here directly from reddit not even a year ago. That's why you're so concerned about whose a newfag and stupid autistic shit such as "board culture."

>>81604430
I know that. Shit, 4chan used to be a liberal website, overall. Everything changes. But this show is like the antithesis of /tv/ which is why it particularly blows my mind that people are discussing it here.

Is Tony gay? I'm only in 7 episodes.

This show has nudity, strong language, and other dark shit. How can people say this is targeted towards young adults and teens? It's clearly meant for people 18-30yo.

Just because most of the characters are high schoolers does not mean the creators of the show had 14 year old Katie in mind.

>>81604475

Yes.

You shouldn't browse /tv/ until finishing it if you care about spoilers.

>>81604468
If you haven't noticed people are calling it shit.

>>81604475
Jeff dies. The last scene of the show is someone saying "Skye"

>>81604493

>nudity

where

>>81604577
Clay's porn folder.

>>81604546
Literally who is Jeff and literally who is Skye?

>>81603761
>Kills herself cuz she got rapes
>OMG why didn't I rape her it's what she wanted
Literally the worse episode.

>>81603284
Autist the show

>>81603811
I just wanna see Tyler shoot up the whole god damn school

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>this guy offers you a ride home

What do?

>>81603284

Not if you're watching at 8X speed.

>>81605567

yes

>>81604280
>board culture

yep, it's autism!

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>it's another normie flavor of the month netflix meme show

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>'bohhhhhhhhh I'm such a tragic princess and I killed myself. I'll take y'all on a guilt trip'

what the fuck is this shit.

from the trailer, I thought It's a mystery show.

good, because that kids face is annoying as fuck and i bet the character is a whiney bitch

I'm trying to watch it now and the first episode has been a cringefest so far. Does it get better?

This show more than any other has made me realise how sociopathic some of the people on this board are. She was too scared to save her friend from being raped, got raped herself and thought she was responsible for killing Jeff. Would you just be fine?

>>81607023
>how sociopathic some of the people on this board are
It's not just this board. The 15-30 generation is a fucking mess.

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>''GET THE FUCK OUT, REEEEEEEEEEE''
>"Why did you have to leave? booo hoooo"

>>81607202
Why do people keep saying this? She even says it's her fault and not his.

>>81603811
wtf is this really the kind of people I share this board with

I'm finished tape 3 b side yesterday and will continue it today but can someone explain to me why hannah is always busting clays balls? Sure he is like a beta dude but jeff tries to get him laid and shit why does hannah have to be a bitch about everything he does?

who the fuck is jeff?

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>>81607343
Best boy

>>81607343

The dude clay is tutoring, the guy with earrings

>>81607361
>>81607368
thanks

>>81607376

You're welcome

i'm still not over the bathtub scene. that shit was so fucking daunting.
like i enjoyed the whole show, but that scene man. fuck.

>>81607007
yes. by about episode four you sorta settle into the sorta weak writing, and the last 5 or so episodes are really really good.

>>81604493
this desu
The suicide scene is really not aimed for young adults. It's pretty fucking vivid.

> its so hard to be a white middle class teenager, the show

>>81604085
Someone from university killed himself.

People stopped talking about it or caring like a week later.

This is part of why this is unrealistic.

>>81604089
> associating marvel nerds with people who watch normie shit

press f to pay respect to Jeff (he deserved better

>>81604493
Because netflix knows nobody actually cares about the age ratings.

What teenager goes

>better not watch it, im only 16 so that would be bad

?

>>81605087
Its normie the show

The complete opposite of autist

>>81604085
This. On the tapes she sounds like a fucking edgy super-villain and nobody speaks as a real life person would. Nobody would give a shit about some girl who killed herself after a few days and nobody would have even followed what the tapes said anyway. I know it's just a book so whatever but when I see so much people on social media saying things like "omg kids NEED to see this" like they could learn a lot from it is just ridiculous.

Even if the show "gets good" in the last four episodes (it doesn't, btw), doesn't change how crap the show is overall.

These are the dumbest reasons to kill yourself and they occur in the most unlikeliest way ever. The only lesson people should take from this show is to do the literal opposite of what everyone does.

Like with Stranger Things, this would've been better as a movie.

>>81607023
Nothing compared to what I have been through and I didn't act like that.

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>>81607361
Jeff...

>boohoo white ppl first world problems I should kill myself let's bring attention to upper middle class """"depression""": the show

It's shit.

>>81608438
This.. I hate cry baby shows about middle class white people and their middle class easy lives

>I'm a middle class normie who gets invited to parties and my life is hard because some girl from school died...

>>81607254

What do you mean,everything he said was true.

>>81608379
>>81608438
>>81608745

I was asking myself the same fucking things.

I assume thats the whole thing they try to show you,even though the reasons are idiotic to most but for the the person in question they are huge.

>my mums boyfriends a jerk better go somewhere else

Oh thats so dramatic..

But not really

>>81608438
>>81608745

Wealth envy lol

Does it really suck that much being poor?

>>81609103
Well when you go to a school in an area full of government housing and kids are overdosing amd going to juvenile detention it makes the "drama" of this show seem super fucking dumb.

When did /tv/ get invaded by teenage girls?

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>sees guy rape a girl
>doesn't tell anyone
>walks to guys house at night and takes her clothes off and gets in his hot tub
>gets schlonged
>kills herself and blames everyone else

I can't believe I watched this shit. Whoever wrote this trash is in a constant state of mental LARP

I heard that song of the beginning I was hoping to be kind of like a Donnie Darko type thing you know mystery type show nope nope not just another dumb retarded white female is having emotional problems. The thing that made me lose it the same that many said no no fuck you fuck you was she was nearly going to get raped in a fucking restaurant for fuck sakes even though any sane person would have stopped it if she acts like she's going to get PTSD from this one pussy grabbing indecent fucking hate Hannah I would just love to rape her in the mouth and how their men make comments about my ass it's not like women do the same thing to

>>81609859

Late 2014, i.e. the Gamergate fiasco.

Tumblr found out what problematic shitlords we were and came here en masse to """educate""" us.

I really hate the show I just really do my freakin Normie friend suggested to me at first when I heard the song I thought it was going to be like the mystery show but nope nope another dumb white bitch complaining about oww hoo dont if loves me or not.
Because I tried to grab my pussy at a restaurant so now I'm at like I am going to have PTSD from this event it's just a dumb another white teenage slut is there's nothing more than to bleed out and die a horrible death because that's all I can wish on Hannah

>>81604207
>rapist apologist
>sympathy

lol

>>81609863
>>>/r9k/

>>81604331
Paid shills my dude
The rest is comprised of the usual plebean /tv/ poster

>>81609863
Yeah, I thought in the end most of what happens is her mistake. She didn't allow herself to be happy apparently, because she is overly dramatic and thought she didn't deserve whatever she could have had with Clay. In the end her final mistake was even considering going to the house of the guy SHE FUCKING KNEW was a rapist. What the fuck? That one I absolutely did not get. Any sane person would avoid that motherfucker as much as possible, but nope, let's get into his tub. The whole rest of her story pales compared to that incident. It's all just meaningless high school shit.

>>81604207

>white trash
>violent
he's like a nigger

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>>81605567
jerk off on his walkman while getting pegged by his latino dick

>>81608258
>marvel isn't normie shit

what fucking universe do you live in

reminder if you watch this shit made for moody teenage girls as a 20 something adult male you should be ashamed

>>81603444
This, and howbow dem trips.

Yes, all of the characters were badly written, and sometimes badly acted, but as a whole the show did good.

I think most people who've watched it to the end shed a tear at one point during the series. I know I did, and I'm 33 ffs.

I can't say that about many shows desu. And I don't think season 2 will be able to match it.

>>81614462
You should be ashamed for not watching it. Are you scared someone will call you a girl?

Alright one of you teenage girls in this thread, do you want to be my girlfriend?

please respond

>>81614731
Le ebin if you don't like something it's because you le secretly do ;)

>tfw hate black people I am the black man now

>>81603284
The praise I've read for this show here is incredibly cringeworthy.

People saying you'll only get this show or it will only hit you if you were around suicide or mental illness in high school. These people are also praising this show because suicide hotlines got an increase in calls after this show came out - apparently meaning that more people are confronting their mental illnesses.

This is all the most normie horseshit I've ever read. High school is retarded, everyone in it is retarded, mental illness is a Jewish conspiracy, women love this show because it shows how a woman got attention.

Fuck all of your tumlredits get the fuck off my site.

>>81611713
He knew what Bryce did was wrong, but bryce was his hero on so many levels. He gave Justin a home, a place to belong, frienahdio when he needed it. To Justin, Bryce was the perfect friend but this rape was just too much.

Bryce was very important to justin.

Just watched the first episode. The actress who plays the dead girl does an awful American accent.

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>>81603284
>it's shit
CONFIRMED

MUH #RAPECULTURE

HEY THE KIDS ARE ONLY WATCHING NETFLIX THESE DAYS RIGHT, LETS PROPAGANDIZE TO THEM THERE

REMEMBER ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS THIS IS WHY WOMEN NEED TO BE PRESIDENT

>>81614851
No, I asked if you were afraid that by watching it you would somehow become a pussy.

Dude, I'm 33. I watched it. Who gives a fuck? It didn't turn me gay. Stop worrying about what people think.

>>81615065
You say that, but I didn't even realise she wasn't american until I read your post. She's australian apparently.

>>81615082
>33
>watching high school dramas

literally kys yours self.

I tried to watch it, and couldn't get past the first episode
>that would be like Han Solo -
>HAHAHA WOWEEE WHAT A NERD NERD ALERT LAMO WOWZO! #GROANZONE WHAT A NERD OMG

I bet you have a beard and drink craft beer and think diversity is our strength you fucking cuck queen

Starting episode 12 now and god everyone is just so fucking awful in this literally fuck everyone except Jeff, how can this show get away with only having cunts