>not pushing the Death Star into the sun

>>81394548
A: that destroyer was only able to be pushed because they hit it with Ion torpedos which disabled it.
B: They could never get close enough to the death star to hit it with the torpedos..
C: It'd take a fuck-ton of them to disable the death star
D: It'd probably take 100+ hammerheads to move the death star once it was disabled
E: In that particular scenario, it'd be easier to just knock it into the Scariff'sorbit and watch it crash planet-side.

>>81394548
>people complaining about how this scene was retarded
>actually more physically plausible than virtually any other space tactic performed in the entire star wars saga.

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>>81394548
>not having this ship being piloted by a hammerhead alien
Is Lucas losing his touch?

>>81394548
Lets say that death star was orbiting the earth. It would take about 21.300m/s of delta-v (a*t) to slow an object down to a solar free fall from low earth orbit. If the death star is about the size of a moon it would be impossible for a shit tier rebel space ship built by sandniggers to slow it down. So no, you couldnt just push it into a star.

Why didn't they just hit the Death Star with the Hammerhead and then jump to light speed?

>>81394548
>Take meteor into hyper space
>Release it at near light speed
>Rip Death Star

Actually lets just throw hundreds of our own men and limited resources at it

>>81395739
If the whole galaxy has access to FTL tech, how come there aren't crazy mudslimes chucking rocks at a fraction of lightspeed toward every shithole they have a beef with?

Oh, right. Because Star Wars it fucking stupid space fantasy shit.

This trying-to-bring-accuracy-to-Star-Wars needs to stop.

>>81395716
>not pausing your vhs tape at every weird alien in the background scene and drawing it.

>>81395729
Not with that attitude

>>81394548
Couldn't you just fling a bunch of asteroids at the Death Star

>>81396570
In a realist universe, yes. In fact, chucking small rocks at relativistic speeds is the cheapest, easiest way to basically annihilate anything, if you have a means to accelerate said rocks

But SW is a universe where people with FTL technology fight with laser swords and telekinetic powers. "Rules" vis a vis reality need to give way to "rules" vis a vis the universe of Star Wars, which is not Newtonian in any way.

>>81396648
they must also have some kind of inertia canceling technology in star wars as well. otherwise everyone would be turned into a greasy smear everytime they jumped to lightspeed.

>>81396816
apparently it's "gravity deck plating"

like most SW "technology" it's made-up by some book autist who realized SW sucks when it comes to acknowledging reality, and needed to cover

>>81395678
About as plausible as an ant pushing an elephant

>>81396816
in SW they don't to or beyond lightspeed, they shift into a special dimension that bridges the distances

thats Hyperspace

t. SW autist

>>81396959
they still regularly ignore things like inertia whenever it is convenient

this is because it is a fantasy costume drama, not a gritty hard sci-fi

t. autist

>>81397004
just saying theres no FTL
regarding inertia, see above, bullshit gravity generator magic

but yeah SW is not scifi, its space fantasy

>>81397052
>there's no FTL
come on. yes, you're an autist, but if they use a ship with technology to get from one point on a map to another point on a map faster than light could get them there... it's ftl.

>>81397094
well okay it IS faster than lightspeed technically

>>81397094
the fast travel was originally referred to as just "light speed."

because george lucas didn't understand enough about physics to understand that light did not travel instantly

he also confused "galaxy" with "solar system."

>>81397141
>he also confused "galaxy" with "solar system."
kek, i like the idea that all this shit occurred in some other galaxy. makes it more believable desu.

>>81396954
You're retarded, aren't you?

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WE SHOULD TAKE THE STAR DESTROYER AND PUSH IT SOME PLACE ELSE

>>81394548
I just want an ending where they show early Earth seeding

>>81396954

Are you stupid, it's in space, a ship half the size could still push it, an ant with ant size jets could push an elephant in space when there's no counter resistance

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>>81394548
>Not bringing your own Death Star to fight the enemy Death star

>>81395898
BASED ANON

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>>81397334
you must be trolling

>>81397141
>he also confused "galaxy" with "solar system."
no he didn't. star wars has always been comprised of many habitable solar systems within one far away galaxy. Jaba the Hutt refers to solar systems as "systems" in A New Hope.

>>81397334
>what is mass

>>81397445
jabba wasn't in a new hope

>>81397563
He was. Initially he looked like a guy in a fur vest. Then his scene was cut. And later they found that footage and digitally added CGI Jabba.

>>81395678
Except the forces needed to move the larger ship in that amount of time at that distance traveled would actually make the smaller ship pierce into the larger ship like an arrow or smoosh it like a fucking bug on the window and still not move the larger ship much at all. That's even if both ships had full shields going.

Star Wars is complete fantasy, but it takes itself too seriously. I'm glad I no longer watch these shit piles.

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>>81394548
I wonder if there's beer there.

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>>81397334
Then why won't NASA push Earth closer to Mars

>>81394548
This scene actually makes sense in the context of the movie.

>>81397334
I bet you believe you get into orbit by going straight upwards as well

>>81397707
Earth rotates. It does move a bit everytime there's an earthquake though

>>81397751
>implying you don't
what are you some idiot

you just go high enough so you don't fall down, that's where all the satellites and ISS is

>>81397563
He literally is you stupid prick.

>>81397647
Initially that scene was cut.

>>81397674
EVERYTHING IS WEIGHTLESS IN SPACE FAGGOT

>>81394763
fpbp

>>81397707
The amount of force/energy to do so would be astronomical. It can theoretically be done, just not in practice.

>>81397707
That would solve global warming too. Let's do it.

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>>81394548
>THIS SCENE IS SO FUCKING RETARDED LMAO

>>81397860
The point is that the scene proves Lucas knew the difference between a solar system and a galaxy from the start.

>>81397944
> A thug boat could push a tanker fast enough to slice another tanker in two like a katana

>>81398006
It doesn't, considering how many times he was told to completely rewrite the script.

>>81398044
>thug boat

Also without friction it could, assuming enough time to accelerate and enough fuel

what would happen if you pushed -1000C sun into +1000C sun?

>>81398135
yeah but a tug boat can't accelerate beyond a certain even though there's no friction. You run out of engine power / gears etc

>>81398044
>slice another tanker in two like a katana
That's not what happened though. Watch the scene again. All it does it demolish the tactical and command parts of the ship. The hull takes basically no damage.

>>81398287
>>81398044
Also a tugboat isn't powered by rocket thrusters and is limited by hydrodynamics. There's no friction in space, and I assume rocket thrusters in space create significantly more acceleration force than propellers in water.

>>81394763
>which disabled it

That doesn't change the fact that it's tens of millions of tons of mass

Absence of gravity doesn't mean absence of inertia

>>81398167

0C sun obviously

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Who else is stoked for Rogue Two: How They Got The Plans To The Other Death Star

Many Bothans will die

>>81398461
see: >>81397944

>>81398537
Rogue Two is the dude who found Luke and Han when they went missing on Hoth.

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>>81394548
>star destroyer not jumping to hyperspeed in that situation

>>81398541

>a couple thousand tons vs. tens of millions of tons

>altering course over the course of many hours vs. basically instant change in trajectory

>gradually turning something over a distance of up to a mile vs. abruptly pushing something at speed on a course directly perpendicular to its original course

You're going to say something like "but muh water" now but it won't help.

>>81398649
>disabled and the planet's gravity is pulling him downwards
>DUDE LETS JUMP INTO HYPERSPACE LMAO

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>>81398685
i meant the other star destroyer

You guys do realize you're arguing about the physics of a show about space wizards who fight with laser swords.

Just sayin'.

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>>81398718
doesn't it like take a while to plot a course before jumping.

I mean they can Yolo it but they would probably jump into a star or I bet the empire has systems in place preventing them from fleeing a battle or going AWOL

>>81398723

They're plasma swords actually.

>>81398101
What about that ugly doctor who had the death sentence in 12 systems?

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>>81398742
Yeah its a risk but when another star destoyer is about to cut yours in half you might as well.

Also Cassian skipped the calculations when Jedda got blown up and they escaped

>>81394548
Why didn't the Death Star just have like 9 or 10 of those planet shield things around it? Have them constantly orbit it so the opening is never in the same place, and to make it more difficult to fly in and get through each of the gates. The whole concept of having a planet sized shield but not putting at least one around the Death Star made absolutely no sense to me

>>81398652
>a couple thousand tons vs. tens of millions of tons
propeller vs rocket thrusters
the hammerhead is considerably more massive than the tugboat, just like how the star destroyer is considerably more massive than the cargo ship. also how the fuck do you know how much a star destroyer weighs? lmao
>altering course over the course of many hours vs. basically instant change in trajectory
rocket thrusters + no friction =/= propellers + hydrodynamics
>gradually turning something over a distance of up to a mile vs. abruptly pushing something at speed on a course directly perpendicular to its original course
they pushed the star destroyer for multiple miles, and it wasn't that abrupt. the time scale in movies isn't 1:1 to the length of the movie, you fucking dunce.

>>81398723
Cringe

>>81398827
There are so many problems with the idea of a planet-sized force field it's not even funny. But it made the space battle cool which is all that matters.

>>81398827
The Death Star II does have a shield. They learned from past mistakes.

Does Rogue One release tomorrow?

>>81398890
Right, the generator for which was on some moon crawling with dumb-fuck teddy bears. Why not just have it on the Death Star itself like they did on Scarif? the whole idea of it really triggered my autism

>>81398869
Granted, and desu it did make the whole space sequence a bit more dramatic having something to fight over rather than lets just shoot at each other in space but still.

>>81398652
>altering course over the course of many hours vs. basically instant change in trajectory
>gradually turning something over a distance of up to a mile vs. abruptly pushing something at speed on a course directly perpendicular to its original course
The difference is that tugboats are trying to move the cargo ship carefully.

A tug could quickly ram a cargo ship into another cargo ship to cause damage if they wanted to. It wouldn't cause as much damage as they did to the star destroyer because in water you have to deal with friction and low powered acceleration.

>>81398841

I'm not going to get into a greentext list argument with you. Look at this webm

>>81398661

The star destroyer is disabled, sure, but it still has whatever velocity it had before being disabled. It's moving forward, from its point of view. The tug comes in at 90 degrees from the left and the star destroyer immediately arrests its forward momentum and moves rapidly sideways into the other star destroyer. A basic understanding of vectors is all you need to see how ludicrous this is.

That's not even touching on idea like how would the tug not be crushed between its own thrusters and the mass of not one but two star destroyers, or how you get a perpendicular sideways movement by pushing the front instead of the center mass.

>>81398649
>>81398718
>>81398742
>>81398800
They didn't realize it was happening until it was already happening.

>>81398991
>A tug could quickly ram a cargo ship into another cargo ship to cause damage if they wanted to.

They'd adjust the course of the cargo ship by a couple of degrees and explode.

>>81398991

Find a heavy piece of furniture. Grab a hold of it and then apply a consistent force to it, pushing it forwards. It moves, and continues to move for as long as you're applying a force to it, provided you're not some babyfaggot numale. Then take a few steps backwards, run forwards and throw your shoulder into the side of it. It might move a bit, and you'll hurt your shoulder. This is called "kinetics".

>>81399033
>The tug comes in at 90 degrees from the left
That's clearly not 90 degrees.
>the star destroyer immediately arrests its forward momentum
No, it continues moving forward slowly even after it hits the 2nd destroyer. It was barely moving initially anyway.
>how would the tug not be crushed between its own thrusters and the mass of not one but two star destroyers
A strong hull specifically designed for the purpose of pushing other ships. Also, the hammerhead WAS destroyed following the 2nd collision.

>>81399181
>It moves, and continues to move for as long as you're applying a force to it
Wow, so just like in the movie!

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Doesn't matter if it could happen. It's retarded, fanfiction tier writing. If the rebels rammed their main batteship into the destroyers, then it could be better.

What happened was blatantly stupid, a few missiles disabling a destroyer? Then a small ship pushing it into another? Fuck off

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why didnt the mynocks just fly the falcon to bespin

>>81399250
>a few missiles disabling a destroyer?
Ion torpedoes, actually.

Just like in Empire Strikes Back when they disabled a Star Destroyer with an Ion Cannon from the surface of Hoth.

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Nice original design, Disney.

Have they even created anything new ever since they took over or have they just used every design they could find in the EU and scrapped McQuarrie concept arts?

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>>81399413
To be fair everyone complained when the prequels didn't look like the old star wars. So now it looks like the old star wars.

I'm still mad about this CGI shite

>>81399303
I don't give a fuck what they're called, if a small bomber can disable a star destroyer it's overpowered. The Ion Cannon was a little better, as it's probably a huge building but it still didn't sit 100% with me.

Tell me, why do the rebels bother with lasers if imperial ships are so vulnerable to simple collisions? Wouldn't unmanned kamikaze ships completely wreck their entire fleet?

>>81399413
Disney:
>recycles stories from the OT and Dark Forces
>literally reboots the Empire and Rebellion
>the only other era they'll explore is the original Empire vs Rebellion
>rips off ship and planet designs from EU and McQuarrie
>somehow still make billions of dollars
>there are people on this board who think they're doing an amazing job

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>>81399450
Except that design in the OP pic is from a video game.

Also, the prequels (including TPM) had plenty of ships that didn't look out of place in the SW universe, like pic related or Darth Maul's ship.

>>81399450
That's also basically a yacht owned by a royal family. It's not like a US Navy Destroyer is going to look anything like the yachts shieks have in the Persian Gulf.

>>81399450
Prequels had ARC fighters, Venators/Acclamators, Jedi starfighters and V-Wings, as well as AT-TEs and AT-RTs which all had clear resemblance to the OT designs but were changed more than enough to still be different.

Disney is just copy/pasting old designs because they're retarded and lack any creativity.

>>81399594
Yeah but, it just sucks.

>>81399573
>Thumbnail looks like Jesus on the cross

K I N O
I
N
O

>>81394763
F: Reddit

>>81399689
did any autist write a PhD on religious symbols in the prequels yet?

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>>81399559
>>81399646
These

>Prequels had ARC fighters, Venators/Acclamators, Jedi starfighters and V-Wings, as well as AT-TEs and AT-RTs which all had clear resemblance to the OT designs but were changed more than enough to still be different.

Exactly, they looked like ancestors of the ships and vehicles from the OT, which they are supposed to be.
In TFA they pretty much just took the exact same designs and just swapped the colours. Oh and they made the TIE a 2-seater because the plot required it.

>>81395812
I liked how Thrawn collected a hundreds of asteroids, gave them all cloaking devices and left them all above Coruscant so no one could leave or go to the planet for a couple months.

>>81398461
Wouldn't inertia mean that the Star Destroyer continues to fly forward so moving its tip towards the shield gate and maybe even the planets gravity would enhance the Hammerheads actions?

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>>81400064
Lmao he should've just made another Death Star XD

>>81397322
It's actually the other way around

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_Exodus

> Computer created the society of THX-1138
> Paxton Solo and other humans evacuate Earth with colony ships
> on the way to Alpha Centauri they find a wormhole
> it displaced them in time and space so they landed on Corellia, named after the first human to die there Antonia Corelli

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>>81399793
These are so disgusting. Someone should literally cut JJ's hand for allowing this.

>>81394548
ha! you thought starwars was a space sci-fi?
it is just space fantasy for kids

>>81400308
If you just watch the movies.

>>81398237
It's like I never even mentioned fuel in my literal two-sentence post which wasn't fucking difficult to read

>>81400359
Yeah, if you watch/read the expanded universe it's shitty fanfiction for neckbeards.

>>81398723
>just sayin'

>>>>>>>>>>>out

>>81398461
What's a tug boat?

>>81400556
mad? :^)

>>81400512
t. Brainlet

>>81399646
there is not a single memorable spaceshhip in the entire prequel trilogy

>>81394548
>Glass windows on the front of a ram

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>>81394548
>not pushing it into a neutron star instead
GTFO

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>>81397677

>>81400154

Sure, it's conceivable, but he Star Destroyer would have needed a run up, it would need to start behind the second Destroyer and turn into it over time as it moved forward. Not just immediately siding sideways like butter on a pan

>>81395729
>things orbit the Earth at 21km/s
Orbital velocity at Low-Earth Orbit is only 7km/s, and you don't even need to cancel all that - you don't need to stop it, just slow it down enough it impacts the surface. 500-1000 m/s would be plenty

>>81398566
It's the same dude, dude.

What ps2 game is this?

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>>81398742
>Shield generators are the testicles of the ship
>Lets put them on the very top without protection
>Also make this mile-long ship able to be disabled by a half-dozen single manned fighters
Still looks awesome though.

>>81399793
>hey, maybe we should do something about these huge fragile solar panels/radiators, wahtever the fuck they are
>nah, lets just put some red paint on the side. It'll make it go faster! waaagh!

>>81400307
>Jew gets his claws into Star Wars
>Evil black ship becomes evil white ship
What does this mean?

>>81400154
>>81402196

No? There's no aerodynamics, idiots, spaceships don't fly like planes

>>81402196
>it would need to start behind the second Destroyer and turn into it over time as it moved forward
That's literally what happens.

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Why didnt the eagles fly the death star plans to Mount Doom?

>>81402196
I can buy that the greebling / walls with windows are much less stable than the large hull plates, so crushing it should be possible. Maybe the ISD that gets cut is helping the cutting by having its engines on, giving it a forward momentum so its the Hammerhead and ISD going against each other + planets gravity pulling the ion cannoned ISD.

I find it less believable for example how in the latest Rebels episode a Quasar (a literal hangar with engines and only just enough armor to not break instantly) was able to slice through an Interdictor which is basically an ISD-lite.

>>81402494
Knights of the Old Republic

>>81402541
This is probably the worst aspect of the movie since Y-Wings seemed to be very ineffectual against ISDs in ROTJ. Still it woul make sense for bombers to be able to do something.
The Empire at war videogame makes the Y-Wings ion canons destroy shields and the effect of the planetary ion cannon is only timed.

I still wonder, when Ion canons stop all energy, does that mean life support is dead as well and thus kill everyone onboard? That would explain why the ISD didn't try to do anything at all in the long time it took.

>>81402911
>when Ion canons stop all energy, does that mean life support is dead as well and thus kill everyone onboard?
I figure it just fucks up all the electrical systems so they have to turn on the computers, restart the reactor, and wait for everything to turn back on. Meanwhile, they have no lights or gravity so they have to float around in the dark because nobody thought to carry a flashlight.
Physically, the ship is fine though.

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>>81400871
>thinks star wars is for intelligent individuals

oh my

>>81394548
the whole idea of this ship was recycled from an unused idea for TFA. There was supposed to be a "sledgehammer" ship that the resistance used to penetrate the shield around Starkiller base, and it would then release fighters in to attack. I actually like this better than "we'll just send Han in and hope that the flicker rate doesn't get him".

>>81397829
I hope you're trolling son

>>81403532
The movies aren't. 90% of the EU isn't. But there are some gems like KOTOR 2 that require some thinking.

But if you aren't aware that Disney Wars is even more dumbed down for even younger kids and autistic quipping MCUcks then you're the one whose underage.

>>81402833

But they do move like objects. It has forward momentum and massive inertia, far too much for somehting like the hammerhead to overcome in the way we saw in the film. It's not moving through air, but it is moving through spacetime.

>>81405068
>gems like KOTOR 2 that require some thinking.
>gems
>a video game
>that requires some thinking

yeah sure buddy

>>81406331
>a video game
>that requires some thinking
>yeah sure buddy
So you can beat me in Street Fighter? It should be easy with your superior intelligence.

>>81397944
Meme posters btfo

>>81397870
Weightless, but not without mass, brainlet.

>>81397944
That takes forever to move things around. OP scene took seconds.

>>81397870

The fact the star destroyed held up to the stress of the hammerhead is fine. UNTIL the stardestroyer hits the other star destroyer and crumbles. It is inconsistent. The integrity of the stardestroyer should have been compromised by the hammerhead. This is besides all those tricky physics of mass and energy and so on.

>>81405068
even more dumbed down... dude they were never smart movies. the new movies are exactly on par with all the other movies. this is mindless action crap. if you think it was smarter back then it's cause you were a kid and didn't know any better.

>>81408230
>That takes forever to move things around. OP scene took seconds.
It only takes tugboats a long time to move cargo boats because they're following tight regulations and being extremely careful not to damage anything.

If their goal was to ram one into another one and cause severe damage, it would be easier, and much quicker.

>>81408230
>OP scene took seconds.
Time that elapses in the universe of a movie is not 1:1 to the length of the movie. Surely you are aware of this by now.

>>81395678
>people complaining about how the scene was retarded
>because it was extremely retarded

>>81394763
There should have been no disabling to begin with. If you get within the physical space of a Star Destroy and you're not in a capital ship, you get vaporized. That's how it works. Disney didn't care though and needed a "muh look at how cool the rebels are murdering thousands of imperial servicemen" scene.

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>>81409231
>If you get within the physical space of a Star Destroy and you're not in a capital ship, you get vaporized.

>>81408593
The OT, ending of ROTJ aside, and I dare say the Prequels were far smarter than anything Disney's put out.

>Prequels: political intrigue, corruption, rise of the Sith through careful planning and manipulation, full-scale war, Jedi struggling to maintain relevancy
>TFA and RO: SJW bullshit sprinkled on top of a mindless action shit sundae

>>81409284
there's a difference between exploiting a sensor vulnerability and hiding and fighting it

if han solo tried to take the star destroyer on one-to-one, vaporized

the only reason he survived long enough to get over it to begin with is because they had orders to capture, not kill him

one turbolaser shot would've downed the falcon and it would've crashed onto the SD's heavily armored hull

>>81409231
>There should have been no disabling to begin with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BkOVSFb2Zw

>>81409231
you god damn autist, in Rogue One it was the entire rebel fleet vs 2 Star Destroyers, it's not that hard to accept that their victory was plausible.

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>>81397351
>not smashing your deathstar into theirs as a last resort

true space kino

>>81409402
>single volley of tiny ion shots
vs
>a massive planetary defense weapon firing designed to disable entire space stations firing multiple shots at it after a long charge-up

>>81409467
I accept that it was plausible, sure. Most of the times the Rebels win in the Expanded Universe was due to just that, overwhelming numbers and Imperial lack of force projection. However, the way they handled it in Rogue One was fucking retarded.

>do they use tactics and numerical superiority to overwhelm the quality-superior star destroyers and outwit the empire?
>or do they use a penis-shaped ship to bump the star destroyer and make it go boom with another xD

>>81402541
Maybe they need to be somewhat exposed to shield a ship that large?

>>81399456

A single ship destroyed the entire Super-Star Destroyer Executor in Return of the Jedi

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>>81409548
>a massive planetary defense weapon firing designed to disable entire space stations firing multiple shots at it after a long charge-up
the ion cannon on hoth isn't massive lol

>>81402541
The EU explains it better.

The testi-generators provide Star Destroyers with superior shielding and a faster recharge rate than the majority of capital ship shields in galactic history. They were placed on top to compensate for the massive power draw of the SD's engines, which are even stronger than those of the Mon Calamari cruisers, so that the shields could receive adequate power and the command bridge could easily and effectively transfer power from top (shields) to bottom (engines) on the fly through the "spine" of the Star Destroyer. Their weakness was that they were exposed, though they were shielded and durable themselves. Star Destroyers relied on TIE Fighter point defense to keep them alive. With the shield generators intact and with its armor, nothing else could really hurt Star Destroyers that bad without having multiple ships concentrating firepower. The Rebels used different tech in their Mon Calamari starships by foregoing external shield generators and instead dedicating 1/4 of the hull for shield generator purposes. This resulted in Mon Cal cruisers being more dedicated battleships than battle-carrier ships, having less hull space and less guns on the topside, but more durability in terms of shields and harder shields to crack. Still says something that one-to-one in close range a Star Destroyer can take out an MCC in a span of several seconds.

But Disney probably uncanonized all of that.

>>81409599
The Executor's shield generators were targeted by a massive bombardment that took them out. It wasn't in danger, but an A-Wing skirting its perimeter got shot down and barreled into the command bridge.

>>81409736
>the size of a small mountain
>not massive

>>81409736
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBS

>>81409821
That turret on the right is about 7ft tall

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>>81409821
Look at the little gun in the bottom right, here it is next to humans for scale. It's like the size of a 2 story house.

The Y-Wings that disabled the destroyer in Rogue One are 23.4 meters long each.

>>81409867
It's also in the foreground.

>>81395739
>>81395812
In the original Thrawn books he drops asteroids into hyperspace then crashes them into Courascant to take the planet without losing a single guy.

It was considered a genius moment

>>81395771
>hyperspace doesn't make you move faster
>hyperspace is just more compact

how come /tv/, RLM, etc freak out over the physics behind this scene but not how Starkiller base sucks stars into itself to fire beams that instantly travel across the galaxy?

>>81394763
nerd

>one A-Wing destroys a Star Destroyer in RotJ
>Vader's Star Destroyer (not the Super Star Destroyer, remember) destroys any ship that even touches it without damage to itself in rogue one

fuck rogue one

>>81409792

If I remember right, they were also in the middle of a combat manoeuvre, and when the main bridge was destroyed, the auxiliary command centre couldn't take control in time before it plowed in to the Death Star.

>>81409792

That's my point. Once the ship's Bridge deflector shields were down, all it took was a single fighter to Cripple the entire ship.

Thus it is not beyond the realm of possibility that if a Star Destroyers Shields are weakened or temporarily removed, a volley of ion blasts could cripple the ship.

>>81395729
>SW
>physics
anon you silly goose

>>81410219

You're forgetting the most important factor when discussing why anything happens in Star Wars: It was the will of The Force. The Executor's designer was influenced by the force so that vulnerability would be there so that could happen.

Star Wars is dumb.

>>81410092
You're remembering right.

>>81410219
The A-Wing didn't shoot the Executor and destroy it in combat, it got shot down by the Executor and by a sheer miracle happened to kamikaze strike the command deck. There's a big difference here and what happened in Rogue One.

>>81410349

How does that contradict anything I said. Whether ramming the Executor was luck or not, the point is that the DAMAGE was enough to essentially vaporize the bridge and thus cripple the ship. It's completely consistent to assume that in cannons can therefore knock out a Destroyer if it's shields are down first.

>>81407925
Look out we got a badass over here

>>81394763
>C: It'd take a fuck-ton of them to disable the death star
it took just one

>>81398742
>randomly jumping into hyperspace is dangerous
Han does it all the time though

>>81410483
No, it fucking isn't.

There's a difference here. A ship laden with bomb armaments crashing into a vital part of a ship's command center is different than regular damage from regular combat.

When the Japanese had their intel broken and ended up losing most of their big ships while we had some to spare, they didn't have any conventional cannonry left to destroy them, and their planes were having difficulties, so they began filling them with bombs and ramming them into our ships. Kamikaze attacks. They were deadly as all hell, a single plane and pilot capable of taking down hundreds if not thousands of men with him, but it was an unconventional tactic with unconventional damage.

An A-Wing crashing into a primary command bridge does not at all prove a point that what happened in Rogue One is plausible, if even possible.

>>81396959
Why was it possible for Cassian and them to jump into hyperspace from within Jedha's atmosphere? Shouldn't they have burned up pretty much instantly?

>>81410895
Plot.

how come the storm troopers wear helmets, and yet on more than one occasion they can have dirt kicked into their faces as a form of attack?

>>81411160
Stormtrooper armor is functionally meaningless and always has been.

In the vacuum of space the metal would have welded together.

>>81410682

>There's a difference here. A ship laden with bomb armaments crashing into a vital part of a ship's command center is different than regular damage from regular combat.

Yes, the difference is that an entire squadrons' worth of ion bomb strikes would be significantly more devastating then a single ships explosion, regardless of which part of the ship it targets.

You're trying to assert that a bullet to the head is deadlier than an RPG to the leg.

You guys are just so fucking retarded. Before posting bullshit just do the math.
A single tugboat could bring the Queen Mary 2 up to 15m/s in like 3minutes if there is no water/friction.

15m/s is pretty much the fastest the Queen Mary 2 can drive. Just imagine ramming it another shitty ship.

Now go fuck yourself

>>81411160
>>81411190
Stormtrooper armor's good unless the plot says otherwise.

>>81403575
This.

I was so pissed when the "resistance superweapon" plot angle didn't show up in TFA.

I feel like there was the potential for TFA to have been a decent movie if they played with the "New Republic and the First Order are strategic equals locked in an awkward Cold War-esque detente and both sides have been developing new superweapons to break the stalemate" angle.

Too bad the kikes were only concerned with copying ANH and adding as many quips, GOTG-tier aliens/characters, OT fanservice moments, and blatant ripoffs of thing that Lucas did better the first time in the name of pulling in extra shekels.

>>81411383

Ion weapons aren't destructive, they're designed to disable shields and other systems. A-Wings carry a complement of concussion missiles, which detonated when it crashed in to the bridge.

>>81411970
The worst thing is, the concept art clearly shows that talented people had great ideas. But then Jew Jew came and panned it all for his remake.

This is exactly why I really like Rogue One. Gareth Edwards really shows how he cares for this universe and how he wanted to play in it.

>>81397647
FUN FACT:

The guy in the fur suit was ALWAYS going to be a stand-in, it's just that originally the plan was for Phil Tippett to make Jabba as a stop-motion animated character that would be composited in over the fat dude in the fur suit.

Remember that Phil Tippett also animated the chessboard characters in ANH, the Tauntauns and AT-AT's in TESB, and the Rancor, AT-AT, and AT-ST's in ROTJ.

The only reason why the scene didn't make the final cut was because Lucas probably ran out of money/time and couldn't afford to pay Phil to spend months animating a photorealistic alien to talk with Han Solo for 5 minutes that didn't look like complete and total ass.

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>>81394548

did... did they evacuate the cruiser?

>>81412201
Yes, all escape pods evacuated to Scarifs surface. Then Tarkin killed them all.

>>81412141
I wasn't sure what I felt about Rogue One even as I watched it. Between the GOTG-looking asteroid outpost in the beginning, Saw's telepathic octopus, and Vader's quip, the beginning was pretty Rocky.

When the Scarif space battle began and I first saw Raddus's flagship's design, all of that changed.

Here, we had what was to Home One in ROTJ what the Venator was to the Imperial Star Destroyer. A design that was unquestionably a Mon Cal, but was clearly also an earlier, more fragile, and less refined ship. Furthermore, details like that bridge pod hanging 600' below the rest of the ship for a clear view of the battle reminded me of the cloud cars hung by Zeppelins in WWI, and came across as exactly the sort of thing that Lucas would have lovingly copied as a more whimsical Prequel-era design. And yet, it also fit in with the EU, as it looked like a giant ocean liner or yacht with weapons grafted on it (as Mon Cal cruisers supposedly were) and it's unusual bridge placement made perfect sense as a design element catered to an aquatic species that naturally thought spatially in three dimensions (unlike humans who evolved to think in two because we walk on land) and would probably feel blinded if they didn't have as close to a 3-dimensional 360-degree view of things as possible. (That predisposition to three-dimensional thinking could also be why all the rebel space commanders seem to be Mon Cals, talk about an unfair tactical advantage)

It was a design that "worked" on so many levels that it was obvious that it was the product of someone who was thinking just as autistically about in-universe design trends continuity as Lucas did.

Realizing halfway through the battle that Raddus had knowingly taken it on a suicide mission to buy time for the special ops team and watching it and the rest of the rebel fleet getting it's shit pushed in by Vader at the end just drove home how willing to take risks and push the storyline Edwards was.

>>81401549
>Spaceship

Too bad the podracers didn't count.

Also, while they ended up being lame AF, the designs for the battle droids and all of the Trade Federation's hardware (motherships that release dropships that release troop carriers that release droids, matrushka doll-style) in TPM was pretty fantastic.

AOTC brought nothing of value to the franchise though, and the new capital ships and fighters of ROTS were too little, too late.

Lucas and Ben Burtt making Grievous's battleship look and sound like a space Zeppelin was pretty GOAT though.

It's also autistic AF as Anakin safely landing the front half after the back half with all the engines broke off is EXACTLY what happened with the USS Shenandoah in the 1920s when it broke in half during a thunderstorm and the Commander landed the front half in a cornfield after guiding it down with the remnants of it's crew like it was an unpowered hot air balloon.

>sound in space

pew pew

>>81409980
No he didn't you ass. He equipped asteroids with cloaking devices and set them in orbit around the planet creating an invisible minefield, basically blockading the planet.

Later he equipped some other ships with the cloaking technology and flew them inside a planetary shield and fired them in tandem with his or orbital barrage in a cunning ruse to make the republic think he had a new weapon.

>>81398827
>>81398869
In ANH they stated clearly that the Death Star was designed to repel a capital ship attack, as the Empire didn't seem fighters to be a threat since they didn't know about the weakness.

In Rogue One, the planetary shield is impenetrable by fighters and blasters, but the mass of two star destroyers cuts through it like butter.

It's a total autistic retcon (except not, because if you slow down the death star blowing up Alderaan, you see the beam scatter off a planetary shield for a split second, so Lucas clearly thought about this) but it would make sense for the Death Star to not have a Scarif-style shield if it was designed only to repel capital ships that could cut through one just by Kamikaze-ing it, because it would have only been useful against fighters that posed a non-existent threat against the death star.

>>81398890
Exactly.

>>81394548
>space worm plausible
>dense asteroid fields plausible
>sound in space plausible
>one highly advanced space ship pushing another space ship is unrealistic
This fucking board.

>>81413493
>oh shit a rebel ship just rammed us captain!
>haha what idiots our maneuvering lateral thrusters alone are powerful enough to counter them

>>81397850
He is only in the butchered versions.

>>81395716
>Lucas
Disney. Talented Lucas employees left.

>>81396816
Star Trek has inertial dampeners and they us a bubble that moves space around the ship as opposed to the usual "moving the ship through space".

>>81395739
Why don't they just fire hammerheads at planets at lightspeed instead of building a death star?

>>81413372
In ANH EU a huge Rebel fleet tried to attack the Death Star before it got to Alderaan in an attempt to destroy it. Every available Mon Calamari starcruiser in the area, at least a dozen Nebulons, at least a dozen Assault Frigates, at least a dozen CR90s, against the Death Star and three Imperial I star destroyers, the older and outdated models..

The Empire lost one ISD. The Rebels lost the entire fleet.

>>81413493
>highly advanced

It's a retarded-looking ship with a fat front end.

>>81406331
>video games that require interaction have no thinking involved
>staring aimlessly at a television screen to watch a movie with zero interaction can cause great cognition

You're a fucking idiot. Please kill yourself.

>>81411744
>just do the math.
>A single tugboat could bring the Queen Mary 2 up to 15m/s in like 3minutes if there is no water/friction.

You didn't do any math here.

>>81409231
you seem very dumb and tryhard and edgy and young

stop being such a dumb tryhard edgy young faget

>>81415636
good argument

>>81394548
I can't believe I paid money to watch this horseshit in the theater.

>>81399250
lol everyone look at this stupid faggot he's special

>>81415684
not having an argument i'm telling you that you are embarrassing future you

>>81397334
Anon imagine using a paper cup to try and push a car. Even if the car was over ice, ie zero friction, the cup would crumple long before the car was moved.