Who the fuck green-lit this? More importantly: Why? ffs how hard

>>80769671
I might be retarded, but when I first saw this movie, but I'm not a big Star Wars guy, and I hadn't seen the OT in a while, so when Tarkin showed up, I didn't notice he was CGI.
Then I saw it a second time, this time with the knowledge it was CGI, and THEN it looked CGI.

They recast Dodonna and Romodi because they're literal who background characters. Recast someone like Tarkin and you'll get a bunch of "hurr that looks nothing like Tarkin".

>>80769671
that actually looks pretty damn good

looks only like the difference in quality of a movie made in the 70's vs a movie made today

suck it you contrarian faggot

It looked great. Yes, if you stare at it looking for flaws like an autist you'll see some. If you suspend disbelief as these flicks require, it's great.

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This particular pic is not the one you should have chosen for your dumbass argument.

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If you are autistic and have face-blindness, I could see this passing for realistically human.
But not when you put him next to actual human actors.

>>80769671
this was objectively well done.

Someone who doesn't know star wars doesn't even notice he's CGI.

>>80770048
get your eyes checked reddit

>>80769671
>>80770370
People like you would have never made it in the time before cgi, when sfx were super apparent.

>>80769671
I think what gave spoiled the Tarkin CGI for me was the overacted headbobbing during some bits of dialogue

>>80770370
still felt completely natural when he was talking to krennic

>>80769671
I noticed pretty much instantly that there was something off about his face

>>80769786
wording this. I had no idea he was cgi on first viewing

>>80770370
That looks terrible. Straight out of that shitty animated star wars thing.

>>80769671
>ffs how hard can it be to find a skinny, balding British actor?
If they replaced him the next re-edition of TNH would have him instead of the original.

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>>80770370
>Posts gif using shitty cam rip
>"Guys! Look how shitty this looks"
Why do you suck so bad OP?

>>80770370
I have facial blindness and I still noticed it. Mainly the fact that his skin was too transparent

>H-he's not real! I can tell!

Good job kid, they can't get one over on you!

>>80770460
Also, he didn't roll his "R's" as strongly as Cushing did. It made me aware that it wasn't Tarkin as much as the CGI.
I know Peter Cushing is dead, and they had to do something to replace him in Rogue One. Unless they were going to recast him, they'd have to CGI him. I looked at Tarkin and Leia the same way I look at CG Yoda or Jar Jar. They're not real, I know that. They're real in the scene, though, so that's good enough for me. And this was a DAMN good effort.

>>80770590
this

OP is one of the smartest guys i know, he even figured out that smaug in the hobbit wasn't a real dragon!

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The issue is not whether or not he looks "pretty good."
The issue is that a neurotypical human mind can immediately spot how off it looks.
And seriously, for what? To test the tech? That's the only reason I can think of.

>>80770425
>Someone who doesn't know star wars doesn't even notice he's CGI.
Someone who doesn't know Star Wars doesn't give a shit if a different actor portrays the character, either.

>>80770437
Try again nigga The Thing is my favorite movie. This shit is distracting as fuck.

>>80770370
it looks like a video game cutscene

>>80769786
it is CGI? i watched it yesterday and i was like Is this real actor look like CGI vidya character

>>80770669
>this was a DAMN good effort.
no it wasn't, you just have no standards

it didn't look as unrealistic in the film as it does in stills or, shitty rips or gifs

this shouldn't need to be said but apparently you're all thick as fuck or just trolling . Wd

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>>80770578
Yeah because higher video quality is gonna change the fundamental problems present in that gif.

>>80770699
That looks great. Yeah he looks a little otherworldly, but it only heightens his villainous mystique.

But yeah, congrats for realizing this man is deceased and this is but a digital copy.

>>80770795
I feel the exact opposite. It looks pretty damn good in the stills.
It's when the face is moving next to natural human faces that the illusion starts to really fall apart

>>80770768
le true patrician emerges, exquisite taste sir

>>80770768
Find better cgi then m80

>>80770795
It looked pathetic, if they had to have him in the movie at all it should have been just one or two scenes so they coulld put the budget in to making him look real

>>80769671
Totally distracting and unnecessary. Look at the stage of his neck on the left. Big rubber fold which looks ridiculous and they couldn't even get the stitching right on his collar. The patch of silver temple hair is another clear flaw. It's unnatural.

>>80770867
Why the fuck would you use CGI at all?
CGI """resurrection""" of dead actors for some reason eas the single biggest detriment to the film.

Just find a similar-looking actor Jesus Christ

>>80770872
>pathetic

Really, no hyperbole?

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They should have just tried to get this guy.

>>80770874
This guy gets it, saw it with my family, who were big fans of the originals and they loved it and i had to explain to them how awful it actually looked and how retarded it was they didnt get just an actor do do it.

>>80769671
This was the thing everybody talked about right after seeing the movie dude wtf

/tv/ your contrarian shit can be very retarded

>>80770805

It honestly looked way better on screen. I could only tell it was CGI because I was looking for it.

>>80770934
>goalpost.jpg

It was terrible it took you out of the film every time he was on screen, a vidya character right in the middle of all these people, completely immersion breaking

>>80770975
Wow, you sure showed them

>>80770938
pathetic in the sense that it was immediately noticeable, if this was in a game i'd say it looked fantastic but they failed at properly integrating him in to the scene

>>80770973
Would have been fine with this. Was fine with CGI Tarkin too though. People are being nitpicky babies about it.

The only way we'll get to photorealistic CG characters is if they keep pushing the tech forward, so I'm glad they're trying.

>>80770854
it's thanks to 90's born reddit queers like you that they're allowed to get away with this filth

>>80769786
Pretty high praise, I was wondering if there were people who didn't know the series and wouldn't notice. When you know he's dead you pay way more attention to the scenes.

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>>80769671
Im not a die hard star wars fan and I only found out after finishing rogue one that this nigga be cgi youvirgins whine too much

>>80771066
Yea this, CGI was fine if this was a vidya cut scene or animated show, In the movie it was fucking terrible

>>80771025
Literally no-one is arguing that it's bad CGI.
The argument is that, despit being good CGI it fails to mask the fact that the character in question was obviously added to the scene in post and looks out of place to the point of distraction

OP literally asks why they did this instead of just getting an actor. The goalposts didn't move at all

When I first saw the movie I thought they found the guys long lost somehow much younger twin brother. Only after did I find out it was CGI.

>>80771082
>I'm glad their trying
Instead of just using ya know actors?

>>80770867
any scene where it doesn't stand out

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>Years of masturbating to video games and SFM porn have actually diminished 4chan's ability to experience the Uncanny Valley

>>80771144
You need glasses anon

>>80771140
I'm not the original anon, I was going off what >>80770669 said
>DAMN good effort.
Assuming he meant damn good cgi. It's good cgi, just not good enough.

>>80771144
when you first saw this film your autism was undiagnosed, I think you can now safely assume you need mental assistance

>>80770370
It was obvious. Needed more rain and fog to obscure the cgi

>>80771234
Why don't you just watch the film. Every time the cartoon tarkin is on screen its glaringly obvious he's out of place

>>80771241
You can safely suck my cock ;)

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>>80771186

>>80771247
Just use a fucking actor, problem solved

>>80771276
No it's not

My opinions > Your opinions

Check m8

>>80771286
Thanks but no, not a faggot >>>/lgbt/

>>80771276
But my point is that's as good as 100% cgi characters get. It still looks weird, but every other instance of cgi characters either look worse or aren't entirely cgi.

>>80771356
Oh but you are, in the old 4chan sense anyways

>>>/b/

Even if it didn't come out the best, I feel like I have to appreciate the effort. Guy Henry, the stand in actor (Cassius in Rome) had literally studied Cushing for one of his earliest roles, and they also used a facial cast of Cushing's from the 80s or so.

>>80771338
>check m8
Lol wat? Go back u cringyfaggot, and see an optometrist or maybe just stop playing so much vidya, your facial recognition is shot

>>80769671
he looked literally indistinguishable from his real self

>>80771395
k

>>80771106
You should just keep saying Reddit, it's a good look.

>>80771434
I saw ur mums face just fine last night when I nutted on her

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As bad as Tarkin was, CGI Leia way worse

>>80771307
there was no need to have him there at all

autists will say its not a big deal when viewing pictures, and when you havent seen the movie and just screenshots with their two faces juxtaposed, it wont look too different, because he isnt moving. when he's moving, it looks like complete shit and unrealistic

>>80771430
They should have just put Henry in there.

Better yet, they should have written an original story.

Better yet, they should have stopped milking dead horses.

>>80770975
Good work anon. People can't be blasé about this, the future impact is huge. Imagine a world where no new flick stars ever exist. That's where we're heading.

I hated every minute of the CGI stuff in R1, and that's a LOT of time too as I kept pausing and rewinding it to stare at all the edges/shadows to find faults.

>>80771518
Don't even get me started, i fucking left like a minute later

>>80771480
you should try not being so obvious then

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>>80771106
Anon, you might want to read what you wrote and then maybe take some time to evaluate your life.

>>80771392
Not every instance, if you've got an alien a robot or something not meant to be human it can work, but the uncanny valley is a real thing, how they didn't understand before release how weird this would look is bizzare, you can't put a CGI person in the same scene as real ones it doesn't work, we don't have the technology

>>80771518
Are you ready for her to be entirely CGI in the next movie

>>80771529
>Fucking autists enjoying the movie while im sharting myself with anger over here! God damn autists!

why didnt they do just side shots or something, having them full cgi did not feel right, they are dead, let them stay that way.

>>80771491
Doubt it, that was prob a cartoon cutout, not like you'd be able to tell the difference

>>80770805
it will retard

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>>80771589
She's gonna be CGI for 10 minutes until Kylo Ren kills her too.
And it's gonna look like shit and be the worst 10 minutes of the movie

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>>80771550

>>80771276
>obvious he's out of place
Probably because you have it in your autisitic fucking mind that he's dead and the second he came on the screen you paused your autism video player to autistically LOOK for flaws which defeats the entire purpose of cgi. When you have it in your mind that this is cgi and activally look for flaws then you're obviously going to find flaws.

>>80769671
Rogue One takes place directly before Episode IV, so casting a different actor would be problematic.

Leia, they could have easily shown her from behind, as everyone would know it's her anyhow.

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>>80771630
Noice

rogue one defenders are scum

boring shit movie with the worst kind of pandering

>>80769671
>More importantly: Why?
Because it was impressive.

>>80769786
I turned my head slightly as I saw the back of the head and thought something was off, then I snorted as I saw him turn.
I think it was pretty obvious, but I still think it was impressive.


Would be great for aliens in some sci fi, as eerily similar to us.

>>80771722
>with the worst kind of pandering

And what kind would that be? Take your time.

>>80771654
And you're gonna pay to see it anyways like the bitch you are

>>80771722
It was honestly the best star wars movie since the originals.

>>80771581
disney knows they can pump out garbage and the plebs are going to line up in droves regardless. it doesn't matter if it makes sense, it doesn't matter if it looks good. every time another one of theses comes out you'll all say it was better than the last one and fap over that until the next best one ever comes out. you disgust me.

>>80771589
They were finished shooting before she died.

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>>80771738
>STOP ENJOYING THINGS I DON'T LIKE!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAH!!!!

>>80771738
Says the guy sitting in a Disney Presents: Star Wars: Rogue One thread for two hours.

>>80771598
Yea when he was first on screen I thought he might just be from the back stay in shadows, but no

>>80771598
They did it just to ruin it for you

>>80771798
no anon. I decided never to pay for another star wars after tfa

>>80771789
was I wrong about anything I said?

>>80771679
No you dumb shit, if he had been an actor I wouldn't have cared, it was the cartoon character on screen that was the problem, do not give a shit about w/e nerd shit your going on about

>>80771859
Uh oh, you might just bankrupt disney

>>80771904
Who cares?

>>80771859
Wait, so you didnt even see it? TFA was very underwhelming, yeah, but R1 is actually pretty good.

>>80771911
>do not give a shit about w/e nerd shit your going on about
You're on the wrong site anon.

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>>80771082
The technique was already perfected 15 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCkZr5k6ZjA

>>80771932
>who cares
The anons IIT discussing the weird CGI character in the new star wars, hope that clears things up

>>80771934
I saw it, just not in the cinema

>>80771686
Could they not just say he was "on a diplomatic mission" which resulted in a change of appearance? This get-out card has been used to gloss over other glaring inconsistencies (which render the R1>ANH crossover nearly impossible to follow).

>>80771932
>Who cares?
star wars fans

>>80771957
No that's u tourist go back, and take your shitty CGI with you

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>>80771859
I know... I just know, that you own at least one sword.

>>80771984
Oh yeah, all the permavirgins. Got it.

>>80772018
I think they were busy enjoying the movie actually.

>>80772060
>all permavirgins
Ok kiddo you really desperate here eh? The cartoon character was awful, do you understand? No?

Torrent yet?

>>80772125
I understand that you're wrong if that helps. You do realize that we're arguing over opinions here right? Do you know what an opinion is?

>>80771934
Wait so if someone hasn't paid for something you assume they haven't seen it? Where the fuck are you from and can you please just go the fuck back

>>80772060
nustar wars fans perhaps, it doesn't fit with the other movies at all

>>80769671

I miss the times when I never noticed CGI.

>>80772173
Everywhere

>>80772177
I understand you have mental difficulties if that helps, you still need to go back

>>80772245
Were you 3? Cause my 4 yr old kid noticed and asked why that guy was a cartoon

>>80769671
>lets shit on rouge one thread just because

kill. yourself. faggot.

Tarkin at the end of Episode 3 looked better than R1 Tarkin

>>80772177
you can plainly see in OP's pic that the CGI was awful

if you spend all day on /tv/ having wrong opinions maybe it is you who is consigned to virginity

>>80772331
>Let's shit on terrible CGI characters because they deserve it
welcome to 4chan faggot

>>80772314

Until I was like 20 I watched few movies and didn't even know CGI was a thing.

>>80772046
Why's this guy so happy all time?

>>80771186
Underrated

>>80772415
*the

>>80772375
So at what point did you
>not notice CGI?
In your twenties? Uh Huh sure thing, I believe you too

>>80769786
First time I saw it I heard he was CGI but honestly couldnt tell because the kinotorium lighting and I was nodding off throughout the flick

>>80771518
I left the cinema, disgusting

>>80769786
I didn't realize it was CGI as well. I thought they hired an actor that looked like him and it's just heavy makeup.

>>80772880
>>80773099
I think you both might need to cut down on the vidya, its fucking with your brain

>>80772355
The picture looks perfectly fine to me. Enjoy being mad while everyone else enjoys the movie.

>>80773178
It's expectations bias probably.

>>80770973
This is exactly what I've been saying.

Me neither, only blind faggots defend this shit

>>80773199
>the picture looks fine
Have you seen the movie? It doesn't look fine in motion, it looks really weird and offputting, the really strange thing is its a completely unnessesary chracter, the movie would work just as well without him their at all

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>>80770973

>>80773324
I saw the movie in theaters. Maybe instead of looking for problems you should enjoy the movie. I for one thought it looked really good, as good as CGI can look anyways.

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>>80771186

>>80773324
> the movie would work just as well
Agreed. Only the movie is terrible and irredeemable. It looks well, everything else about it is totally worthless.

>>80773380
Wasn't looking, when their are extended scenes with a cartoon that I'm suppose to pretend is a real person it takes you out of the film, it ruins immersion, it makes you want to point at the screen and laugh. They should've just used an actor, or better yet cut the character all together if some autists really are that hungup on Tarkin looking the same

>>80773380
> I for one thought it looked really good, as good as CGI can look anyways
>as good as CGI can look anyways
Meaning
>I found it to be visually, noticeably bad but ignored it because I was determined to enjoy the movie

PROTIP: You can criticize bad things about good movies

>>80773420
Nah it was OK, sh it like Tarkin and Leia was really dumb, apart from that it was a perfectly serviceable story, I even kinda liked Krennick should've just had him as main villian

>>80773513
>PROTIP: You can criticize bad things about good movies
Have you forgotten where we are? If a single thing is wrong the movie is irredeemable trash according to /tv/

>>80773565
Lol you havent been here long eh? All sorts of shit can be forgiven, using CGI in the place of actors isn't one of them

>>80769671
Doesn't uncanny valley describe CGI so good it's creepy?

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The only issue with CGI Tarkin was the decision to give him so much screentime where he's face to face with live actors. If they cut his screentime and replaced it more with Vader, it would have been much better.

It's not perfect, it's easy to tell at least for me (should be mentioned my parents were actually fooled) but it's still an impressive effect.

>>80773635
I've been on 4chan since 08 but am a new arrival to /tv/. All boards are the same in their shittiness, some are just shittier than others.

>>80773650
It ain't real and your brain knows this and gets 'creeped out' if you don't have that reaction you genuinely really honestly have a facial recognition problem

>>80773722
OK pls go back to your home board >>>/trash/ you don't belong here

>>80773708
Keep him in shadows, don't show the face, minimize interaction with real people, on the otherhand just use a fucking actor and theres no problem

>>80773722
>been on 4chan 9 years
>never been to /tv/
t. shit

>>80773708
Wasn't there only like maybe 3 minutes of him in the entire movie? I honestly remember seeing him maybe twice.

>>80773773
Nah, I'm gonna stay and shit up the place

>>80773841
I've been here before but the other boards were more entertaining. The other boards are shit now.

>>80773650
It describes a feeling of discomfort and revulsion observed in people when they look at things that strongly resemble humans but not exactly.
Until CGI was a thing only roboticists knew or cared about it.
But yeah, a human representation that's REALLY REALLY close but not perfect will elicit a far more negative reaction than something more stylized. Same reason porcelain dolls and realgirls are creepy as fuck.

Most popular evolutionary psychology theory is that it's a mechanism to keep us from playing with corpses and walking away with diseases

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>>80771518
I literally can't tell which one is CG

>>80770975
If you have to tell someone how bad something looked it probably didn't look that bad.

>>80773875
hurr durr ur a blind autist XD

>>80772363
>lets prove my point

stfu & gtfo

>>80769671
I can't help it, I'm usually VERY critical of CGI< but in this flick I have to say I bought it 99% of the time, they did a good job.

>>80773863
>gonna stay and take shits
Not for long u won't fgts like you never last sooner or later you'll end up where you belong >>>/mlp/ why not just go now and save us all the hassle?

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Let me guess, you guys thought CGI Michael Douglas in Antman looked bad too, right?

>>80773950
Aww did I hurt your little feels fgt? Your movie is a shit, best learn to deal with it son

>>80773966
Did the fags over at your favourite board /d/ tell you about /mlp/?

>>80774000
Nah he looked way better then this shit

what was the point of rogue one again?

>>80774020
>/d/
Hahahahha, Christ just go

if a shitty movie can achieve this, they will do anything they want on TV with political leaders soon.

>>80774062
Money.

>>80774077
I think I'll stay ;)

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>>80774000
They de-aged Michael Douglas, though. They didn't entirely recreate his face from reference and paste it on a different actor.

It's a different process and generally de-aging looks a lot more believable.

>>80771551
I left a minute later as well.

>this is my new favorite meme btw

>>80774096
You've already said fgt, enjoy your stay, with posts like this it will be brief

>>80774127
>with posts like this it will be brief
I've been posting like that for 9 years now. I think our definitions of brief may vary slightly.

>>80774161
You just can't keep your bullshit consistent eh? If your just here to post shit at keep it consistent

>>80774219
What's inconsistent about my shitposting? I'm always willing to take advice on how to make even worse posts.

>>80769786
>but I'm not a big Star Wars guy

same, but when I watched the movie i knew instantly that it was a CGI character, and it bothered me every time he was shown

>>80774258
When you invent a bullshit persona e.g. a anon that's posted here for ovr9000yrs.
Attempt to maintain consistency at least within the same thread, I hope this helps happy shitposting newfag

>>80774433
Are you retarded? I said I've been here since 08, how is that in anyway inconsistent with anything else I've said?

>>80774568
Keep on little newfag keep on, soon you'll have enough (you)s to earn a gold star! That's when the super sekret board unlocks

>>80774692
Sick oldfag references dude, 4chan gold and our sooper seekret klub. I see you've been here for a few days yourself.

>>80774258

old fags leave a space under the digits and dont use any punctuation

>>80774736
Keep earning those (you)s bud

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>>80769671
Wow, this thread is proof enough that your view is in the minority. Must feel bad OP. He only looks bad to twatty little nerds like you.

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>>80774844
>dont use any punctuation
Since when are oldfags niggers?

>>80774871
You give em out like candy baby, they're worth nothing.

>>80774999
>their worth nothing
Please take this to heart, please its not a scored system the only one wasting their time posting endless dribble is (you), see you got another one!!! Exciting isn't it?

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>>80770722

>>80775095
Don't underestimate just how bored I am. I was gonna watch mary and max but the fucking pirate bay is down and that shit aint on netflix.

>>80774982
No basically everyone except for one shill and one first time shitposter agrees with OP, the CGI character was fucking stupid, did u bother reading the thread? Or are you the shill?

>>80770431
kys

>>80775148
>Tpb is down
Christ your so new it almost hurts

>>80769671
They did a pretty good job of it. It was some of the best CG people I've ever seen. By far the most realistic job that has EVER been done.

The stills look nearly perfect. The problem is the lighting doesn't quite reflect off them and cast shadows in a natural manner. This is hard to see in stills but more obvious in the actual movie.

But all that being said, they did a good job of it. To my knowledge this has been the only movie that has inserted CG people into a live action film. It's a great first attempt at it.

They may have to do this in Star Wars Episode 9 depending on how much the plot points involve Leia.

>>80775154
He was too busy enjoying himself to notice

>>80775185
Saying it a lot doesn't make it true just so you know. I bet you're the type of faggot that posts forced memes.

>>80775178
No really go see an optometrist or get a cat scan, if you cant see the difference their is something seriously wrong, really no kidding, get help

>>80775229
Here's another for (you) keep earning those 4chin pts you'll be an oldfag in no time

We're not there yet as far as technology goes.

>>80775229
>to busy to notice
Notice what? The thread? The posts? What was he enjoying the webms? Did you even read what your replying to?

>>80775264
Hit me with another one bby

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>>80770852
>>80771005
>>80771033
>>80771066
>>80771126

How about the middle ground: it looks good when he stood still, but as soon he moved or talked, it hit the uncanny valley and was bad..

Terminator Genysis kinda had the same problem with young arnie (although it was better in some ways)

>>80775370
>Did you even read what your replying to?
I'm too busy enjoying myself

>>80769671
>ffs how hard can it be to find a skinny, balding British actor?
bald should be easy

skinny..lmao

>>80769671
I knew he was dead, so it looked off, but my little sister and mother were fooled. They just thought that actor looked weird, it never occurred to them he wasn't real.

>>80769671
he actually looks older in the CGI. why did they do that.

>>80775397
Same issue really, when old Arnie fought young Arnie tho they had the fore thought to make it dim and funky lightning, it helped

>>80775412
>babby's first decent shitpost ITT
I'm proud son, here's that (you) you've been asking for all year

>>80775519
It was clever wasn't it? Admit it, I'm better and I've been here longer.

>>80775456
I didn't know and didn't care, all that mattered was a weird looking cartoon was on screen and everyone was pretending he was a real person

>>80775570
Keep trying son, dont let one 1/2decent repley go to your head, you still have a long way to go

>>80775615
As long as I can lead the way for first timers such as yourself I'll never stop

>>80775692
>first timers
>such as yourself
A little more free advice bucko, don't ever use phrases like that again, their sickening

>>80775793
Sickening to first timers such as yourself

>>80770048
It only looks good in stills, in motion it's a mess because even though they can recreate a face, what these digital artists fail to do every time is recreate the facial musculature that animates the face, leading to cartoonish, over-exaggerated movements.

>>80775836
This is getting sad brah, originality city is the key to gud shitposting, repeating back posts is b-teir faggotry, remember I'm saying all this to help you even if it hurts sometimes it's for your own good

>>80771551
Dude, I *also* left a minute later....small world.

if you watched SW in the 80s and remember those greenscreen lines around the rancor and some of the shittier puppets but you still loved starwars this isnt a problem for you.

This is the best they can do with current tech and I thoroughly enjoyed it all

>>80776431
I do remember the massive black lines around the rancor and the at-ats, still not nearly as bad as cartoon tarkin, why are you defending this obvious flaw so hard?

Am I the only one who found Tarkin jarring but Leia fantastic? I seriously thought they found a chick who looked really similar to Fisher

People talk shit about the CGI humans in Rogue One and also Arny in Terminator Genisys.

But they are actually some of the best human CGI i've seen. When have you seen a better CG human in a movie? they have almost mastered it I think, with just a few more small things that will probably be ironed out by 2020

>>80769671
If anything, the biggest fuckup was having his uniform too perfect.

The real actor version of Tarkin has a uniform with little rumples and puckers to the fabric, like any real person's clothes will get after a day of wearing them around the workplace, while CGI Tarkin's outfit looks like it just came back from the dry cleaner.

>>80777341
See >>80771140

>>80777341
>a better CG human in a movie?
I don't want to see them at all, they always look like a cartoon in a real movie, its like you suddenly step into who killed roger rabbit, really its always a bad idea, we don't have the technology so stop doing it

>>80777369
no its mostly the face, just seeing that shit move is creepy, when he's in a room with actual actors the effect is multiplied to the point of making the scene unwatchable

>>80777369
Out of everything, you complain about the wrinkles in the clothes.
Holy fuck.

>>80771005
>I could only tell it was CGI because I was looking at it.
FTFY

>>80778358
thats fake-autism for you, or maybe nu-autism its difficult to tell these days

>>80775239
>their

>>80778414
he right if you just don't look at the screen and concentrate on the voice it works just fine, just kinda put your hand in front of the tv and focus on nothing, you can maintain immersion

>>80778430
>>80778416

>>80770370
looks like sniper in TF2, retarded unnecessary garbage

>>80772415
He loves his mustache.

>>80769671
I love how no one pointed out OP is using the post production images not the one that appeared in film.

Keep on memeing though, anon.

>>80771789
make your reply an actualy meme jpeg
and we'll reuse it in every /tv/ thread

>>80769786

Face blindness is a sign of autism.

His eyes were unnatural.

>>80778591
its in the film ,just watch it, its unbearable, and no don't care about the origional actor didn't know he was dead etc et.c w/e the fuck you apologists have been running with, it looks bad, its a cartoon interacting with people and its immersion breaking shit, I literally just watched it an 1hr ago, I had no idea about any of this but the moment that thing was on screen I thought 'why is he a cartoon?' oh its suppose to be Tarkin 'why didn't they just use an actor?' it was distracting, unnecessary and strange, don';t get me started on Leia, I turned of the goddamn PC like a minute later

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He has an extremely distinctive look and this was what happened last time they tried to use a replacement actor for him

>>80778770
cool, fine at least it would have been a real person, don't fucking care if it wasn't cushing

>>80778770
>Hello, Luke

>>80769786
Why is it the more realistic CGI characters get, the more unsettling they become?

It is uncanny valley?

Fuck, I was less uncomfortable when CGI Dwayne Johnson showed up in The Mummy 2

>>80778795

It looks fucking dreadful and a million times worse than CG Tarkin.

>>80769671
Why didn't they just have him appear as a hologram?
Blurry out of focus holograms are the main method of communication in the Star Wars universe, not only would it hide any shortcomings in the CGI it would also let them throw in another classic Star Wars thing
Is there a CGI artists union that demands all CGI gets a close up so the artists can put it on their resume or something?

>>80778770
What was this from?

>>80769671
Your picture evidence is not too convincing for your argument desu

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>>80778739

>>80778936
no it doesn't because it would have been a real person interacting with real people, thats what your not getting, if the entire movie was cgi it would have been incredible but everyone else was a real person so it looked weird and fucking stupid, literally anything thats actually their would have been better, or something not meant to be human, a cgi vader would've worked better for instance

>>80769671
If disney can perfect photorealistic CG actors then they dont have to worry about their franchises ever dying off because young RDJ can now show up in every star wars ever.
Its literally the plot of the congress coming closer to reality.

>>80779044
yea hologram Tarkin would've been fine
>tfw a inuit igloo building board has better ideas then all of disney

>>80773875
With those two images, I only know from context.

It's more noticeable when they move, by the way the skin stretches. They really nailed her cocaine-induced dead eyes though.

>>80779109
>>>/b/

>>80778932
>It is uncanny valley?
Thats literally the definition of the uncanny valley.

>>80779154
well they've got a long way to go, unless they just start doing full cgi films like FF then it'll work

>>80779044
Just being on the project is good for the CGI artist. Feel bad for the actor who worked those days on set and gets no recognition or real money.

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>looks like garbage
>cant believe this got approved
>what video game is this.meme
>Box office: over 1 billion
>most beloved SW since ESB

>>80779758
>using b8 jpgs
no really >>>/b/ your not ready yet

>>80779807
so, I have no problem with the overall movie, this shit with cartoons taking up screen time is terrible tho, why did they do it? honestly their was no need they had a great film, stop trying to advertise your cgi company or w/e the fuck it was

>>80770437
Back before CGI they would have never tried to pull this shit, anyway. They would have hired different actors.

>>80779807
Bruh CGI Tarkin was far and away the most criticised thing about the movie.
Also
>Most beloved since the last good Star Wars movie of the two that are good.
EVERY Star Wars movie is "The best one since EWB" until the next one comes out.

>>80769786
It was CGI the first time I saw it, but I guess its pretty hard to tell if you aren't too focus about it.

>>80779056
That's Tarkin from Episode 3

>>80779141
People aren't acting against empty green screens in R1, there's a real guy there. It's just Tarkin overlaid over the actors face.

>>80772415
He loves killing natzees, lad.

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>>80779807
>when was the last time a BAD MOVIE made money!?
Not even saying Rogue One is bad, it isn't.
But your argument is retarded and CGI Tarkin looks like shit.

>>80779903
>Bruh CGI Tarkin was far and away the most criticised thing about the movie.

No it wasn't? Not even close?

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>>80779903
>Bruh CGI Tarkin was far and away the most criticised thing about the movie
[citation needed]

>>80779903
That only started with the disney star wars. RotJ was loads better than any of the prequels.

>>80779966
yea and you can tell immediatly, I didn't know it was coming I ignored everything about this film until I saw it, it was blatant you'd have to force yourself though meditation or pure retardation to not see it, theirs a really well done cgi person in front of you, why? just use an actor who the fuck cares if it doesn't look like the first one.

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>>80779986
>Cushing's estate called it "remarkable"
>some memelord on /tv/ thinks his opinion matters

>>80769671
I'm going to be dead honest ... With out checking and just looking at the pic I can't tell which one is the real one and which is the CGI one ... I can tell they are different just not which is real

>>80780171
I would too if I was cashing the likeness checks

>>80779986
>BAD Movie
>overly positive critical reception
Are you retarded, anon?

>>80769671
It wasn't that bad. Probably would have been better to keep him in the shadows or shot him wide and over his shoulder.

>>80780203
If Lee saw it, he would probably cry seeing his friend in a new movie

>>80771186
Faggot

>>80780171
how is this relevant? it looked bad, lots of anons ITT and prob plenty more when the film actually came out thought so, why cringepost and deny it looks bad? you just come off like a shill

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>>80780203
>forgetting estates have power regardless of money
Just like how Seuss estate loved the money for the live action movie to the point they pulled off all support and banned further films.

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>>80780006
>>80780059
Nigger the RO wikipedia entry literally has a seperate sub-heading in its "Critical Response" section dedicated to people hating CGI Tarkin and Leia.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/21/peter-cushing-rogue-one-resurrection-cgi
https://www.theguardian.com/film/filmblog/2016/dec/16/rogue-one-star-wars-cgi-resurrection-peter-cushing
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/20/rogue-one-uncanny-valley-grand-moff-tarkin-likely-/
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-12-15/how-a-holby-city-actor-brought-one-of-star-wars-most-iconic-characters-back-to-life
http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/rogue-one-ending.html
http://time.com/4604996/rogue-one-grand-moff-tarkin-princess-leia-cgi/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2016/12/19/how-rogue-one-ending-went-wrong/95519816/

Would you like more? There are more.

>>80780253
I'd take his opinion way more seriously.

>>80780253
so you'll be ok with it if your senile and dead? thats your argument?

>>80780209
Read the whole post there smart guy.

>>80780299
so some have integrity and some don't, well done shill you've really shown everyone that a cartoon in a 'serious' sw flick is a good idea

>>80769671

That looks REALLY good for CGI

>>80780476
it does, in a movie walking around and talking, it looks fucking bizarre

>>80770370

They over did the facial movements.

Your cheek doesn't move that much when talking.

They overcompensated.

>>80780299
>If one person did it then all people do it

Seuss isn't exactly hurting for intake. Those books are still on shelves. Most of Cushings fans wouldn't know how to buy a movie.

>>80779914
It's Scorpius playing Tarkin.

>>80769786
I immediately noticed he was CG in the first scene he was in, but in the later scenes he looked much better.
It's all about the lighting and properly blending the CG into the scene.

>>80780295
> it looked bad, lots of anons
Who the fuck cares what retards on /tv/ think? Especially to a an extremely positive reception? Anons complained about AOTC CGI where Lucasfilm had to release statements saying no suits were even made for the Clonetroopers. Of course idiots would jump on a bandwagon 15 years later.

>>80780586
>who the fuck cares what /tv/ thinks?
/tv/ u fucking mong, your on /tv/ how fucking autistic r u? jesus christ

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>>80780330
>literally clickbait articles
It's sad you wasted 20 mins of your life searching for this to win a /tv/ argument.

>>80780632
>caring what pedophiles think
>defending this board
>calling others autistic
Are you trying to be funny?

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>>80780586
>>80780209
>Critics were super positive though!
>Metascore 65/100

>>80780635
? where are you from? this is /tv/ its not an argument, they look like shit, we're just trying to figure out why your defending it? unreserved love of all things SW? a shill? a 'raid'? pure autism? the possibilities are endless

>>80780672
yea pls go newfag, tourist w/e, its time >>>/tumblir/

>>80769786
what kind of a shit theater did you all go to? It was obvious as fuck that he was animated. They'd be much better off with a similar looking actor with some prosthetics and make up. Lucas may have sold SW, but his goofy CGI meme legacy continues

>>80780330
(((mainstream media))) thinkpieces taking issue with it is irrelevant to reality

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>>80770669

Yoda and Jar Jar were completely CG. Tarkin and Leia had actors standing in and only their faces were superimposed.

You people are so jealous that Star Wars is back and better than ever because of Disney. Disney is doing an awesome job, deal with it plebs!

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>>80780795
>Who CARES what /tv/ thinks they don't represent anybody!
>Who CARES what the media thinks they don't represent anybody

Apparently the only opinions anon cares about are the ones his aunt shares on facebook, and only then when he agrees with her

>>80780795
how is this an argument against tarkin looking terrible?
>Yoda and Jar Jar
were not human, pls read up on what your trying to discuss, start with 'uncanny valley'

You faggots will never be happy. What about Avatar, or the CGI soldiers in the prequels? What is it about a scene having the volume of CGI that makes your brains disconnect and say; "this is fine, I can accept this" But a competently done CGI Tarkin is too much?

>>80780932
avatars were also not meant to be human, the solders from the prequels didn't have faces, and everyone shits on the prequel cgi anyway, stop pretending not to get this shill

>>80780932
It's way easier to accept in a movie that's basically a cartoon with some rotoscoping, than a live action movie with a skin colored Roger Rabbit.

>>80780932
Literally the Uncanny Valley you sperg.
You would be able to understand the difference if you were neurotypical.

>>80780520
>>80770370

his facial movements remind me of the monkey from the new planet of the apes. They probably have some CGI facial movement engine that VFX guys use for different productions.

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>>80780920
Nobody cared that Yoda and Jar Jar were Total CG. People were pissed off about how terrible the dialogue and directing was!

You will see that so many people are nit picking this movie but you can do that to any movie. This movies story was perfectly acceptable and a nice addition to the Star Wars canon. That's all it was supposed to be, just that simple.

>>80770973
oh shit nigga, that would have been perfect.
probably cheaper too

>>80780932
>learning /tv/ lives on memes to the point of logical paradoxes
Are you new here?

>>80780257
must have struck a nerve lel

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>>80780987
>>80781022
>>80781030
Don't pretend like you autists and the hordes of Star Wars fans wouldn't be shrieking if they replaced Cushing with another actor. I agree it isn't true to life, I doubt any CGI human model in motion will ever be completely convincing, but it's not as distractingly bad as you're making out. Of all the flaws of this movie, this is the most nitpicking.

>>80781079
People didn't complain about full CG Yoda because Episode 1 had a practical puppet Yoda that looked incredibly bad that they ended up replacing with CG later

Honestly they should have just got Guy Henry (the dude actually doing the mocap and voice for Tarkin) to just play him fully himself, without all the CGI shit. He doesn't need to look exactly like Cushing, the whole fucking aesthetic of these films is completely different to what it used to be anyway. Just slap on some age makeup and contacts and run with it. The CGI really did stand out like a sore thumb in the cinema.

>>80781180
Unlike your mother when she's paying your bills, I don't shriek. The CGi is bad. Deal with it.

>>80781203
They did the CG thing because R1 is meant to be watched back-to-back with A New Hope. Two different Tarkins would be jarring.

Notice they used recreations for the other people who show up in ANH like the squadron leaders, while Mon Mothma has a replacement because you don't see her again until Jedi.

>>80769671
the movie is just a publicly funded R&D project for Hollywood to perfect the CGI actor technology so they can use them in place of paying for actual actors in the future. It's not perfect now but they are learning from it and continuing to improve on it. If they didn't bother with it because it doesn't look good enough now then no innovation can take place.

>>80781285
The whole fucking film looking completely different because it was made forty years earlier with different technology and different prop/set/art guys is far more jarring than having a different guy with a similar look and similar voice playing Tarkin in a few scenes.

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Tarkin looked fine.

With the Leia scene they messed it up with direction, just a bad style of shot to focus on.

>>80781180
My dude, I genuinely could not give less of a fuck if someone other than Cushing played Tarkin. They literally did that already in Episode III and nobody cared.

In all seriousness the worst thing about the Disney Wars movies thus far is the excessive fanservice, seemingly to placate fan fears of Disney "RUINING MUH CHILDHOOD". So the movies instead get bogged down with all this "HEY GUYS DON'T WORRY WE LOVE STAR WARS TOO WE'VE ALL SEEN THE SAME MOVIES ISN'T IT GREAT" shit.

>>80781434
He looked a lot better than Leia but he did not look "fine".

>>80781410
Actually it does a pretty decent job of looking similar tech and time frame wise. Much more than either Episode 3 or 7 did.

>>80781434
lmao