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Azor Jon

>>80338045
fucking cuck

>>80338045
>author kills a popular character because everybody expect him to be the main character
>big into subversion of fantasy tropes and imitation of grey historic events
>there are still readers who think it will ends with "big goodie lead by chosen one vs the big badie army of monster from closet" battle

>>80338226
if you think grrm is actually subverting any tropes you fell for the meme

Why does everybody in the books except Robert fanboy Rhaegar???

yes yes, Rhaegar had silver hair and played a harp, so what? He still kidnapped a teenage girl and hid in a tower, and got btfo in his first battle

Azor Jaqen

>>80338539
yeah i never got this bullshit either. His actions lead to the war of all seven kingdoms and he sat out the war like a coward for a whole year whilst men died fighting because his batshit father who he was supposedly aware of let loose.

Just finished my first watch. Watched every episode in a week.
S5 and 6 were pretty fucking ass why is it every male character is either maimed/deformed/crippled/retarded or the villain

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>>80338605
>S5 and 6 were pretty fucking ass why is it every male character is either maimed/deformed/crippled/retarded or the villain
what did you think of the Greyjoys?

>>80338605
Samwell Tarly nigga

>>80338539
technically they were in the crypts

>>80338698
1 character out of how many? Lol even then his "arc" is that he can't fight >>80338679
They are hardly in the show. Are the books good or memes

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Season 5 Jaqen the Monk

ITT: we rate each character’s POV chapters

>/our girl/ tier
Cersei

>God tier
Sansa, Jaime, Theon, Barristan

>good tier
Tyrion, Victarion, Griff

>average tier
Jon, Davos, Arya, Bran, Eddard, Samwell

>shit tier
Brienne, Arianne, Areo, Catelyn, Quentyn, Asha

>skip tier
Daenerys

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>>80338877
Season 6 Jaqen returns from the Dead

So season 8 will be the last season of Game of Thrones on HBO?

Should I start with Westworld or something?

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>>80338901
>sansa in god tier
>Cersei /ourgirl/
>Cat shit tier and Davos average
Get the fuck out of here tumblr whale

>>80338986
Sansa chapters are fucking great, they have Joffrey, Tyrion, The Hound, Littlefinger, Sweetrobin etc

How does one joins the Faceless Men based in Braavos?

And why did they joined the Faceless Men in the first place?

>>80338605
every male character with the exception of the one the show is obsessed with the most?

>>80338963
>Should I start with Westworld or something?
westworld is worse than got by miles

>>80338963
Tbh i dropped westworld 20 mins into the first episode

>>80339043
no

>>80339050
explain how jew jew abrams mystery box bullshit combined with a Nolan writing sci fi isn't worse

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>>80338986
Hello Salty Cunt

Can you make a Jaqen H'ghar/Faceless Men /got/ thread the next time? Just for once, please?

If you do, use this pic.

>>80339037
Who snow? True but who cares about him besides grrm

>>80339043
Westworld has the advantage of being only 10 episodes to GoT's 60. So if you want something that pretends to be deep and invigorating but is actually spoonfeeding you nonsense, high school grade philosophy with violence and sex strategically placed to keep you awake, then Westworld is a good place to be.

>>80339144
you're uhh.... not implying GOT is deep are you?

Modern day Isaac Hempstead Wright

S7 leaks? Anyone care to spoonfeed me them?

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Is Asshai a dangerous place?
I always imaging it as a dark shadow almost underworld kind of place.

>>80339160
It Isn't but it doesn't pretend like westworld either

>>80339160
No. GoT is the exact same thing, just 50 hours longer. And it also forgets the whole 'nobody is safe' motto around season 4. Characters are starting to comically survive things that were lethal to everyone else, people are being brought back to life, anyone interesting is dead, and I guess there's dragons and zombies.

>>80338539

Wasn't it his general attitude on top of his attractiveness? Even when he kidnapped Ned's beloved sister Ned wouldn't believe there was any rape involved.

>>80337991
I never understood the spoon rattling meme

>>80337991
Enjoy your ban you stupid nigger. You forgot your subject so you're not filtered

The rest of you niggers didn't even notice

>>80339171
forbidden boatsex

>>80338226
his only trope subversion is that he subverted your trope expectations by actually ending up being all tropes, subverting you

>>80338539
>Why does everybody in the books except Robert fanboy Rhaegar?
>except Robert
>He still kidnapped a teenage girl and hid in a tower
>kidnapped
Yea...about that.

>>80339354

Well done anon, well done anon!
>HOWEVER
A circle cannot be called a subversion

>>80339273
Ned never says anything but it doesn't matter

A married man taking a 15 year old girl away from her family when she was promised to another man is kidnapping and rape by Westeros customs (and ours)

>>80339363
The Starks and Baratheons thought it was a kidnapping

>>80339409
But she went with him willingly

>>80339444
The Baratheons did. I don't think Ned had any doubt in his mind what actually happened but he was an honorable man all the same and had to go get his whore of a sister back to sleep with his drunk of a best friend.

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pretty interesting how out of four (FOUR) sexually inept men on this show the only one to get retconned into having his sexuality back is, guess who

>>80339524
Jamie.

>>80339534
how fucking dumb are you

>>80339502
Brandon and several northmen and rivermen went to go kill Rhaegar, I think it's clear what the Stark opinion was

>>80339497
Even if she did. it would be considered kidnapping

>>80339524
the nigger?

>>80339444

first off congrats on your trips, you must be proud

i'm mostly just confused with lyanna's (lack of a reaction). she's always been said to have steel coursing through her veins but didn't seem to lash out at rhaegar's fuckery. was it a love at first sight type of thing?

>>80338045
>/got/ generals for 2+ years
>faggots still typing "azor jon" in every thread

You people need help

>>80339579
I think it was more a "I don't want to marry the harry drunk man."

>>80339144
>nothing is deep no television is sublime and I'm a philosophy major who strokes his own micropenis on a contrarian television image board

t. you

you probably hate fight club too don't you faggot

>>80339579
>she's always been said to have steel coursing through her veins but didn't seem to lash out at rhaegar's fuckery. was it a love at first sight type of thing?
we don't know, maybe she did, the only witnesses to her being taken were Arthur Dayne and Oswell Whent, and they're both dead

but it kind of says a lot that Rhaegar had his bodyguards with him when they "eloped"

>>80339609
kek
>wont marry rowdy drunk guy cause he'll cheat on her
>Runs off with married man who has two kids
what did she mean by this

>>80339524
how bullshit is it that they randomly decided he never actually got his dick cut off just so they can waste time with that sjw pandering relationship

>>80339675
>rowdy drunk kills her silver prince
>dies in childbirth giving birth to a bastard
pure pottery

>>80339579
It's because Lyanna was smitten by him. Rhaegar was the most handsome/prettyboy in the kingdom. And he was a Targaryen. And a prince. Literally prince fucking charming but he wasn't Chad material, which set him apart from Robert.

You could argue that Rhaegar seduced Lyanna, or that she fell in love with him on her own accord. I don't believe Rhaegar had a bad bone in his body, so a seduction was not his intent and I think he (naively) wanted Lyanna and together they both fell into their love

like a daydream. or a fever

>>80338226
Anyone with half a brain can tell he's setting it up to where Jon and Dany will have to team up to defeat the zombies in AN EBIN FINAL BATTLE FOR THE FATE OF THE WORLD

GoT is schlock. It's entertaining schlock, but it's still schlock

>>80339654
No, but I know when I'm being spoonfed the same old shit. I still watch it but people act like its the second coming of Christ when its the same basic, entry level BS that new media likes where it gives you all the pieces of the puzzle to make you think you're smart, but really it's been holding your hand the entire time. It appeals to the same type of person who retweets Tyson and Bill Nye or thinks nihilism didn't exist before Rick and Morty.

And for the record I liked Fight Club.

>>80339705
What?

Grey Worm has a dick?

>>80339579
this >>80339609
it's supposed to be some sort of feminist thing (GRRM is a feminist) about Lyanna being independent and not marrying a drunken womaniser alpha male

but then it leads to a war and Lyanna's father and brother being killed, but that doesn't matter, gotta have muh feminism romance

luckily the alpha male genes won out and Robert killed the harp playing faggot

>>80339021
>Sansa chapters are fucking great
KEK! I don't think there's a worse, long-standing character in the books except Dany, Bran and Brienne

>>80339772
yes and he's going to fuck memesandy next season

Gendrick

>>80339813
bran chapters are goat its time to stop memeing and get some taste

>>80339796
Too bad feminism killed Robert's only son and all his bastards (ABORTION METAPHOR HOLY CRAP!) and incest is somehow the better choice.

>>80339744
Surely he realised the consequences of taking such a highborn girl as his whore though?

that single action pissed off the Starks, Baratheons and Martells in one swoop, and the Targaryens were already on shaky terms with the Lannisters

>>80339858
Gendry, Edric and Mia Stone are still alive

>>80339837
>Bran chapters are goat
Fucking kek if you actually believe this. Confirmed for liking bad writing that totally deviates from what makes the rest of the book any good

>>80339813
Sansa is lovely, you're probably just a butthurt virgin

>>80339896
confirmed for being a memeing faggot that needs constant explosions sex and murder to keep your autistic adhd self entertained

>>80339916
female tumblrina please go youre never going to fool anyone

>>80339916
Isn't Sansa literally a butthurt virgin too?

>>80339524
ill give bran his sexuality back desu

>>80339761
Westworld wasn't "deep" in as much as it was more of a thriller. I mean sure if you figured out who the man in black was before the reveal, and what Ford was up to, you've "put the puzzle together" in a sense. I don't think there's much in Westworld that pretends to be what it isn't. I don't think that there is that element in ASOIAF/GoT either because it's just a plot-driven fantasy setting that delved into political intrigue and realistic characterization as opposed to fantasy like LotR. It's different. The show has been around now for a few years, and the books even longer, so more and more people have become exposed to it. It's just "old" to you and somehow trite because we've been used to it for years and already had our own non-normie discussions about it.

>>80339946
not for much longer, she loses her virginity to Harry the heir in TWOW

>>80339864
He also thought he was fulfilling a prophecy in his actions. Arguable that he did in one way, if you buy into Jon being the savior of Westeros and shit. His is the song of ice and fire after all.

>>80339984
>It's just "old" to you and somehow trite because we've been used to it for years and already had our own non-normie discussions about it.
I'll give you this one. I read the books long before the show existed and having to sit there and listen to normies discuss how Ned was going to do anything but not get his head cut off was tiring.

which is your favourite great house

me? I'm a Tully fan

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Who has the most legitimate claim to the throne at this point in time?

It can't be anyone from the Lannisters because they never had a legitimate claim to the throne in the first place. Joffrey, Tommen and Cersei are all usurpers who have only been on the throne because the populace is willing to turn a blind eye to the glaring reality of the situation.

So, is it Jon Snow (the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark), Aegon Targaryen (son of Rhaegar and Elia Martell), Daenerys Targaryen (daughter of Aegon II Targaryen and Rhaella Targaryen) or Gendry (the son of Robert Baratheon (who seized the crown in a successful uprising) and whichever woman was lucky enough to occupy his bed for one night)?

Is there anyone else? Feels like I'm forgetting people. Just to be clear, I'm not asking who you WANT to occupy the Iron Throne, I'm asking who has the most legitimate claim to the monarchy at this current point in time.

>>80339921
>series establishes dumb fantasy shit at the beginning, but GRRM does nothing with it for 3 books
>best part about the series is the feudal intrigue and personal triumphs and failures of characters that actually seem Human
>mouthbreathing autists don't understand that this is what people like about the series, and sees nothing wrong with GRRM going full high-fantasy (and bad high-fantasy, at that) when it doesn't bring anything to the story at all

>>80340040
>muh prophecy
so he was insane like his father, good riddance

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>>80340056
Baratheon

>>80340109
im surprised you had the attention span to write this whole comment

>>80340113
>a cuck
>a faggot
>a bald guy who grinds his teeth all day
really """"great"""" house you have there

>>80340096
Stannis, faggot

>>80340154
I'm not surprised you don't have a proper rebuttal. I'm also willing to bet you love the Dany chapters, don't you, you little pleb.

>>80340282

Dead in the show and soon to die in the books.

>>80340453
Stannis will outlive Aegon in the books

screencap this

Stannis will still be king

>>80340112
His insanity begat Jon, who is being built up as the savior and shit.

>>80340539
Jon just got stabbed to death

>>80340453
his fate is not so set in stone in the books, doofus

we know the boltons have traitors among them, and that stannis plans to use the environment to his favor against the northmen

>>80340509

When we last left off with Stannis in the book, his forces were moored in a massive blizzard that was killing his forces faster than the Boltons that are sniping at his encampment like hungry wolves. They're starving, their morale is basically zero and the enemy is in a well fortified castle, warm and well fed.

Stannis Baratheon and his forces are going to be decimated in the first two or three chapters of the Winds of Winter.

>>80340608
Winterfell literally has a serial killer inside driving the populace insane with paranoia

not to mention the Manderlys and Umbers are with Stannis

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>>80340096
Lannisters have a claim through a Baratheon ancestor or something. Some loser did the math, it means Jaime is the one true king.

Targs need to reconquer to get it back, and Cersei effectively conquered at least the general vicinity of the throne room so until somebody barges in and kicks her off the question is moot anyway.

>>80340675

I'm not saying it will be as cut and dry as it was in the show, but it's pretty clear that the attack on Winterfell will not end well for the people that are camped in the middle of a blizzard that shows no signs of abating.

>>80340581
He's very likely either not dead or going to come back to life. Melisandre is at the wall and will probably blood sacrifice Shireen or some shit to revive him.

>>80340453
>>80340509
Irrelevant since the next book will never be completed.

>>80340775
Stannis isn't going to attack Winterfell I thought? I thought Roose had sent out troops to engage Stannis? They were not exactly diehard loyal to Roose if I recall too

>>80340766
Cersei doesn't control the throne as of ADWD, the Tyrells do

>>80340844
See >>80340800
Show is canon since it will be the only complete story

>>80340766

I would die a happy man if the wars all wrapped up in the seventh season, and the eighth was a dry legal battle to decide who the rightful king of Westeros was, with Jaime being crowned in the finale, looking more surprised than anyone else assembled while I'm Alright plays in the background and he shouts, "Hey everybody, we're all gonna get laid!"

this isnt even a /got/ general, what are you all doing in here

>>80340835

Damn. You're probably right. It's been awhile since I read the last book.

>>80340835
>>80340775
Winterfell sent out one wave and it failed, Stannis and his army built holes and traps Aenys Frey died, they plan on sending out a second one soon

Roose wants to get rid of everyone in Winterfell except his own men then wait for the snow to kill Stannis I am guessing

Why does it take so long for fatty if the books are allsholck

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Why did Rhaegar name both his sons Aegon?

>>80340453
>at this point in time

It's Stannis.
In the show the Baratheons are extinguished, and the High Septon has appointed Cersei as monarch, so the Throne belongs to the line of Lannisters.

>>80340926

>Roose wants to get rid of everyone in Winterfell except his own men then wait for the snow to kill Stannis I am guessing

That would be really efficient storytelling on GRRM's account. It would kill off the Baratheon encampment and set the stage for a Northern rebellion against the Bolton's at the same time.

>>80341019
Dornish women sound really hot desu, I love dark hair and olive skin

>>80338864
Books are great. ASOS is amazing. Last 2 have been disappointing though

>>80341093
ADWD is the best in the series as far as world building and characterisation

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>>80341019
>Why did Rhaegar name both his sons Aegon?

>>80341235
Why do jews ruin literally everything good

>>80341019
he didn't you fucking retard. and even if by the rare chance he did his first son would be 6th of his name and the other the 7th of his name you nigger tier dildo

>>80341343
watch your fucking mouth, you nigger cock sucking cuck

>>80341406
go to bed you black faggot

>>80341179
ADWD was plagued by terrible characters, though

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>>80339316
Nigga fuck you!
Dont you dare to call me nigger, ya filthy nigger.

>>80340608
Stannis is going to crush the Boltons. It's confirmed. Night Lamp faggot

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>>80341848

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Meanwhile Jaqen aka Pate the Pig is spending time at the citadel in Oldtown doing what exactly?

What kind of scheme is a man pulling?

>>80343001
seeing how many altar boys he can stealth rape

>>80343001
He's after the book Death of the Dragons

Tyrion mentions it

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>>80343026
Please not you Salty Cunt, there is another raped butthurt fag who claims Jaqen is rapist, I dont need hear it from you.

Cause I like and respect you!

>>80343156
Very good point.
I hope we get more into this in TWOW.

>>80343180
jaqen is the best rapist in all of planetos. what began as sport became an art form. he was so committed he became a faceless to take it to a whole other level

>>80343397
And you are the biggest pleb and fag alike of whole 4chan and reddit combinded. Get raped homo.

>>80343510
8=======D

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>>80343584
:) :D :D :D ;D XD xD ;)

>>80340608
"soon" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZPgGbUuX0

>>80343660
no

>>80343733
and he had fucking pikes in the show which fucking annoyed me when they just went lol swords

what if grrm fed the jews a literal fanfic tier story and we get the real ending in the books????

>>80343962
>the books

what books

>>80344270
the ones that are gonna release when he dies in 20 years

>>80338226
I really hate these faggots who think the sole purpose of ASOIAF is to be subversive

I bet you think the best ending would be the white walkers killing everyone because ohhhh so subversive didn't see THAT coming really makes u think

>>80344451
The Others aren't evil. That's the subversion. And it's pretty much confirmed already.
They are meant to be a reflection of humanity, and the ice wall is a mirror.

>>80341343
I mean, you don't become Aegon VI or Aegon VII until you are crowned King or hold a title where the previous title holders were named Aegon 5-6 times.

Why do all show characters suck? Even the ones who used to be good like tyrion i didn't give a shit about the red wedding

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>>80345204

>>80344640
Are the books different than the show about this? Everytime someone doesn't resist them in the show, they don't hurt them

>>80345204
>>80345275
He wrote Wolverine Origins.

Now compare Origins to Logan.

>>80345322
lol i tell this to everyone i know that likes logan

>>80345275
You are the only one to reply to me

>>80345316
It's hard to see D&D doing something this subtle, but it's pretty central to the series. It's all anti-war after all.
Maybe in the show after Jon and Bran defeat the Night King, the rest of the White Walkers will surrender and tell them that he was the cause of all the bad stuff. Maybe they'll make the NK Bran from the future or some bullshit.

>>80345322
I've never heard of either of those

Can someone explain hodors origin ? Why did the concept of having to hold a door 30 years later turn him retarded? Getting kicked by a horse would have been better 2bh

>>80345581
Basically, as a child, due to Bran's psychic bullshit, he experienced being ripped apart and eaten by white walkers while being screamed at to hold the door. So, it melted his brain.

>>80345677
That makes even less sense than bran being able to time travel

>>80345581
Bran and Bloodraven were projecting their consciousness to the past. Bran was being stretched between current time and the past flashback. Bran warged Hodor in the current time. He accidentally touched past Hodor in the process. Thus past Hodor's consciousness blended with the current Hodor's consciousness, causing his mind to break.

>>80345800
I didn't say it would be a good explanation.

>>80345837
That was not clear at all in the show

Someone read my Bloodraven theory and tell me if it makes sense. I'm afraid it's too all-over-the-place.

https://oursisthefurysite.wordpress.com/2017/03/12/bloodraven-part-3-the-weirwood-throne/

>>80347438
"stupid book. All she wanted was a big black dragon dildo"

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Jaqen H'ghar = Faceless Men = Jaqen H'ghar = The Alchemist = Pate =???

/got/ dabd are answering some questions at some crappy con, look. Their answers are just so Dabid
https://twitter.com/WiCnet/with_replies

>>80348255
https://twitter.com/stormofspoilers/with_replies

more here

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>>80348472
>Literally rubbing it in that lsh wont happen

>>80347438
Why do characters say targs have silver hair when its clearly blonde

Friendly reminder that Pyat Pree has losed his legs and is now at the mercy of Euron Greyjoy.

Do you think that Pree will survive to live another day?

>>80349955
Pree!

>>80349955
Pree!

>>80349955
Pree!

Is there any bookies that take bets on what year Martin will die?

>>80350427
you should go to one thats for the show while you have the leaks

>>80346423
It's too all over the place.

What's the actual theory on that page? What's the central point you're trying to convey with that section of your essay? It seems like a grabbag of observations.

Next thread should be:
Jaqen H'ghar/Faceless Men Edition
Euron Greyjoy Edition
Pyat Pree Edition
Tyrion Lannister Edition
Small folk Edition
Beric Dondarrion Edition

In that order please.

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>>80346423
>If Bran is succeeding Bloodraven, who will succeed Bran? How can Bloodraven ensure future powerful greenseers? How about Bran making babies with another powerful greenseer family? That’s right. Bran is totally going to bang Meera. Or at least Bloodraven wants him to. He probably wants to watch too, the sick old bastard. We all know a paraplegic having sex while an old man watches is far from the grossest thing we have seen in ASOIAF.

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The House H'ghar

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Jaqen H'ghar's nationality is Lorathi-Braavosi.

Jaqen hails from Lorath but emigrated on young age to Braavos.
Leaving his house and family H'ghar behind.

Jaqen has claimed the Braavosi citizenship. So basically Jaqen is an immigrant.